,,plato',s ,,am]ican ,,republic ,,plato',s ,,am]ican ,,republic ,done out ( ! orig9al by ,,d\glas ,,woodruff ,illu/ration 8fidelia vuln]a amantis0 ,new ,york ,e4 ,p4 ,,dutton ,,company #fha ,fif? ,av5ue ,,copyright1 #aibf ,,by ,e4 ,p4 ,,dutton ,,company ,all ,rights ,res]v$ ,fir/ ,pr9t+ ,augu/1 #aibf ,second ,pr9t+ ,octob]1 #aibf ,?ird ,pr9t+ ,janu>y1 #aibg ,f\r? ,pr9t+ ,m>*1 #aibg ,,pr9t$ ,,9 ,,! ,,unit$ ,,/ates ,,( ,,am]ica ,,to ,m4 ,c4 ,,hollis ,,& ,m4 ,j4 ,,macdonald ,,cont5ts ,,book ,,page ,i4 ,,wom51 ,,c>s1 ,,& ,,m5 #a ,,ii4 ,,gov]nm5t #ah ,,iii4 ,,public ,,op9ion #cf ,,iv4 ,,prohibition #ec ,v4 ,,education #ga ,,vi4 ,,am]ica ,,& ,,engl& #ic ,,plato',s ,,am]ican ,,republic ,,book ,i ,sc5e3 ,a!ns1 #aibe ,,socrates 7,,! ,,n>rator72 ,,aga?on2 ,,lysis2 ,,phaelon ,we 7 sitt+ on ! pavem5t 9 our usual way1 consid]+ all ?+s1 & exam9+ into !m "o at a "t4 ,!re 7 ) me ,lysis & 8 y\ng] bro!r ,phaelon1 two y\?s :om ,i lov$ = _! inquir+ dispositions & habit ( always ask+ :y4 ,z we 7 sitt+ !re we sudd5ly saw ,aga?on approa*+1 & call$ to him to jo9 u4 ,:5 we _h made room = him he turn$ to me & said3 #8,li/51 ,socrates1 to a /range ?+ :i* happ5$ to me to-day z ,i 0 go+ d[n to ! ,piru4 ,= ,i n[ "w1 z y "k1 9 ! ,gov]nm5t1 & to-day a /rang] came up to me outside my (fice1 propos+ to buy ! ,p>!non & all ! build+s on ! ,acropolis & remove !m to 8 own l&1 & re-erect !m !re4' #8,truly a /range way ( hon\r+ ! ,a!nians1' ,i said4 #8,i ?9k1' answ]$ ,aga?on1 #8t x 0 less 8 idea to hon\r ! ,a!nians ?an to make 8 own c\ntrym5 pay him _m d5>ii to behold ! sight4' #8,& did he wi% to buy ! hill z well z ! build+s on x8' #8,:y no1' answ]$ ,aga?on1 #8= he spoke z "o mo/ ignorant1 b he guess$ t !re 7 z good hills 9 8 own c\ntry1 :i* he expla9$ 0 also ! p>ticul> resid5ce ( ! ,gods4' #8,)\t d\bt he 0 an ,am]ican1' ,i exclaim$4 ,at ?is ^w #8,am]ican' ! two "y m5 lean$ =w>d eag]ly1 & ,phaelon said3 #8,tell u1 ,socrates1 h y ev] lectur$ 9 ,am]ica8' #8,h[ n8' said ,i4 #8,& did y l ! ,am]icans8' ask$ ,lysis4 #8,tell u :at mann] ( p !y are4 ,= we h he>d _m /ories ( !m4 ,= ,?rasyma*us tells u t he has n[h]e be5 s well receiv$4 ,& he1 y "k1 has lectur$ 9 all ! l&s he c\ld4 ,b1 he says t :]e 9 o!r c\ntries he receiv$ no?+ b k9dness1 9 ,am]ica he receiv$ a great _m doll>s z well4 ,& he says t he is conv9c$ t ! ,gods h emigrat$ & made x _! c\ntry1 & t1 :5 x has improv$ a little m1 he also w foll[ ! example ( ! ,gods4 ,b ,glaucon says j ! opposite1 ma9ta9+ t z ! ,am]icans are ! f>!/ away ( all ! b>b>ians f ,a!ns & civilization1 s are !y )\t any d\bt ! mo/ completely b>b>ian4 ,tell u1 !re=e1 :at is true ab\t ! ,am]icans1 = at y\r lectures y mu/ h se5 & que/ion$ !m all4' ,at ?is ,aga?on1 :o _h be5 try+ to repress 8 laught] s9ce fir/ ,lysis _h spok5 ( my lecture-t\r1 became r$d] ?an ev] 9 ! face1 & f9ally bur/ out say+3 #8,yes1 inde$1 ,socrates is ! be/ p]son to give y a fai?ful picture1 if he is suffici5tly ma/] ( himself & a true lov] ( wisdom4' #8,g on1' ,i said1 #8& make y\r mean+ cle>] & cease to bewild] ! "y4' ,= ,i knew :at ,aga?on _h 9 8 m9d to tell !m4 #8,:y1 !n1 ,lysis & ,phaelon1' said ,aga?on1 #8y mu/ =give ,socrates if he looks l a %eep :ile ,i am speak+ %amefully ( him1 z ,i int5d to d4 ,b ! tru? is t 8 lectures 7 mu* less successful ?an 7 ^? ( 8 wife ,xantippe4 ,!re 71 x is true1 _m ,am]icans :o _h he>d ( ,socrates1 ^: "n is pa9t$ up on ! walls ( _m ( _! libr>ies1 & ^! came to look at him4 ,b he is n a great spectacle to behold1 & :5 he spoke !y f\nd he 0 n int]e/$ 9 any ( ! ?+s :i* !y desir$ to "k1 su* z ! art ( succe$+ 9 ! _w & ! o!r ?+s :i* ! sophi/s pr(ess to tea*4 ,:]eas ,xantippe spoke to ! wom51 prais+ wom5 & decl>+ !m to be ! moral lead]s ( ! community1 & dem&+ = !m ! *ief voice 9 ord]+ ! affairs ( ! city4' #8,g on to ! end1 my good ,aga?on1' said ,i1 #8= ,i "k y w n be able to sleep unless y also tell !m h[ ,i came to see ! ,middle ,we/4' #8,yes1' he said1 #8x 0 9 my m9d to tell !m t also4 ,xantippe's be/ lecture1 :i* %e gave m ?an two hundr$ times1 0 on ! managem5t ( ! home & ! husb&1 & 9 ?is lecture poor ,socrates 0 made to assi/4 ,= 9 no o!r way c\ld he hope to see ! mo/ p[]ful & /range region ( ,am]ica1 :i* 9 _! dialect !y t]m ! ,middle ,we/4 ,x 0 also ! only way he c\ld ev] pay 8 passage back to ,a!ns4 ,_m ( ! wom5 :o _h read ! tea*+s ( a local sage1 ,em]son1 spoke k9dly to ,socrates & inquir$ 8 angle on ! beautiful1 z ?\gh he _h be5 ,euclid4 ,b ,xantippe %[$ him to !m z an example ( ! mismanag$ home1 blam+ ! _s ( ,a!ns :i* did n give h] au?ority en\gh1 & w>n+ ! wom5 ( ,am]ica to take c>e le/ _! m5folk %\ld become too mu* l ,socrates4 ,b ?is dang] !y did n seem to ?9k imm95t4' #8,inde$1' said ,phaelon1 #8y endur$ mu*1 ,socrates4' #8,inde$ he did1 = ,xantippe prais$ ! wom5 ( ,am]ica & ! wom5 ( ,am]ica prais$ ,xantippe1 & ) ea* ex*ange ( flatt]y !y became m boa/ful & reckless4 ,at all su* ga!r+s ! ,am]icans1 especially ! wom51 expect to he> !mselves prais$4 ,inde$1 t p is l a ,p]sian mon>*1 = all :o approa* & speak to !m desire gifts f !m & endeav\r to recomm5d !mselves by flatt]y4 ,be=e half h] t\r 0 ov] ,xantippe 0 op5ly say+ t !re 7 no tru] lov]s ( ! good ?an h] audi5ce 9 ! :ole _w1 & t !y did q "r to be well satisfi$ ) !mselves & to h no?+ to d ) humility & n to believe x possible !y 7 mi/ak5 9 :at !y ?\ght to be ! prop] objects ( ! s\l's desire4 ,& 9 p>ticul> %e prais$ !m = _! refusal to believe !re 0 any?+ requir+ deep ?\ght 9 philosophy or 9 public life1 say+ t p s wise & good did "r to tru/ to _! fir/ impressions ( ev]y?+4 ,!n %e told !m t ! idea t !re 0 any?+ difficult & my/]i\s 9 life 0 only fit = p l ,socrates1 :o 7 unfit = any?+ b philosophy4 ,& %e expla9$ t ! reason t m ?9k+ 0 done 9 ,europe1 & t !re 0 m philosophical discussion !re1 0 t p _h s mu* "t on _! h&s :ile wait+ = _! passports to ! ,unit$ ,/ates4 ,= ^! passports1 %e said1 are z long 9 com+ z a conclusion is 9 ! *att]+s ( ,socrates & 8 fri5ds1 & ! ,europeans sp5d ! "t 9 philosophy hop+ to le>n resignation & ! acceptance ( "o's de/9y4 ,because m & m (t5 ! passport is 9 ! end refus$1 & n[h]e m (t5 ?an among ! ,greeks4 ,%e is already full ) engagem5ts = su* addresses = ! next two ye>s4' #8,well1' ,i repli$1 #8,i am glad ,i w5t !re4 ,= z ! sil5t butt ( ,xantippe's scorn ,i 0 free to turn my att5tion :olly to ! /range places we visit$4 ,& 9 p>ticul> ,i satisfi$ to ! full my desire to see & /udy a ,woman's ,club1 ?an :i* ,i _h n be5 able to imag9e any?+ m unnatural4' #8,tell u1' said !y bo?1 #8ab\t a ,woman's ,club4' #8,if ,i did1' said ,i ) a smile1 #8,i d n ?9k y w\ld believe me4 ,b y w\ld say t 9 ,am]ica ,i _h indulg$ myself too freely 9 pot5t di/illations ( ! tail ( ! cock1 & spoke ! ?+ :i* 0 n4' #8,oh no1 ,socrates1' exclaim$ ,phaelon1 #8= ,i h (t5 he>d ! ,am]icans spok5 ( be=e1 & ,i "k ab\t ! wom5 :o rule ! m5 9 ! valley ( ! great riv]4 ,! riv] is ! ,amazon1 ! greate/ ( all ,am]ican riv]s1 & ! inhabitants are call$ ,amazons4 ,d ,i n und]/& rightly8' #8,n q rightly1' put 9 ,aga?on1 #8= ! ,amazon ,riv] is 9 ano!r ,am]ica altoge!r1 & ! *ief riv]s :]e ,socrates 0 are ! ,mississippi & ! ,miss\ri1 nam$1 ,i believe1 aft] ! two fir/ wom5 :o tam$ _! m5folk1 ! "o h] husb&1 ! o!r h] fa!r4' #8,y %\ld also tell !m1 ,aga?on1 %\ld y n1 t ! me?od ( dom9ation is diff]5t1 & t1 :]eas ! ,amazons triumph$ by skill 9 arms & val\r1 ! ,am]ican wom5 triumph by some?+ m la/+ & /rong] ?an physical =ce4 ,!y h manag$ to make ! m5 believe t !y are sup]ior & ought to be obey$4' #8,h[ s8' said ,lysis4 #8,is x 9 fact true t !y are sup]ior8' #8,my answ] w surprise y p]haps1' ,i repli$1 #8b ,i w answ] boldly & say1 ,yes1 if x is a bett] ?+ to be alive ?an dead1 :i*1 z ,i h said else:]e1 is n a ?+ we c decide4 ,b x is c]ta9 t 9 ,am]ica ! wom5 are m alive ?an ! m54 ,= ! m5 "w s h>d t !y kill !mselves1 & are s busy :ile liv+ t !y h no "t = ! prop] bus9ess ( life4' #8,!y mu/ "w1 mu/ !y n1' said ,lysis1 #89 ord] to obta9 ! leisure = philosophy & public life1 = ,i h he>d t !y h no slaves1 & no class b5ea? ! m51 & if !y did n "w !y w\ld />ve4' #8,li/51' ,i said1 #8& le>n h[ little y yet und]/& ab\t ! "* ( ?is extraord9>y p1 ! mo/ extraord9>y1 z ,i believe1 t has yet appe>$ ^u ! face ( ! e>?4 ,= if y see m5 engag+ ( _! own w 9 ! mo/ heavy & degrad+ employm5ts ( comm]ce1 long aft] !y h accumulat$ = !mselves & _! families n a suffici5cy only b an extreme abundance bo? ( ^? ?+s t may be call$ necessities & ^? t are pla9ly luxuries1 c any?+ be said ( su* m5 except t !y are ei!r ignoble 9 _! own s\ls & ignorant ( ! true nature ( :at is good1 or else t !y are act+ 9 ob$i5ce to ! ord]s ( "s tyrant1 & are1 9 fact1 n freem5 at all1 b slaves8' #8,assur$ly1' !y said1 #8!y mu/ be "o or ! o!r4' #8,or bo?1' said ,aga?on4 #8,yes1' ,i agre$1 #8t 0 well add$ by ,aga?on1 = we mu/ n =get ! influ5ce ( religion :i* ev5 tyrants c modify only ?r\gh sl[ degrees4 ,b z religion is ! manife/ation ( ! s\l's nature1 if we f9d ! religion ( ^! p compell+ !m to lead ! life !y d1 %all we n ju/ly decide t !re is 9 _! s\ls an ignorance ( :at is truly good8 ,n[ ,i say t 9 religion !y are foll[]s ( ,py?agoras )\t rightly und]/&+ 8 doctr9e1 & t !y are to be numb]$ among ! wor%ipp]s ( ! ,sacr$ ,numb]4' #8,)\t d\bt1' said ,lysis1 #8! ,sacr$ ,numb] is ,numb] ,"o1 :i* has long be5 ! fav\rite among mank9d4' #8,y are wrong1' said ,i1 #8& y mu/ n ?9k t ! ,am]icans are 9 g5]al m selfi% ?an o!r m54 ,i ?9k t ! opposite is ! case1 & t n[h]e on e>?1 n ev5 among ! ,a!nians1 is !re s mu* fell[-feel+ & will+ness to help comb9$ ) s mu* competitiv5ess & s great a desire to excel 9 conte/s4 ,no1 ! numb] is ! symbol n1 or :atev] y *oose t d5otes ! greate/ quantity4 ,= !y pay a mo/ special & dev\t wor%ip to a /range god :om !y call ,progress1 & ^: w !y decl>e x to be t !re %all be made z great a numb] z possible ( all objects t m5 make1 b pr9cipally ( ! ma*9es t are call$ 8autos0 or 8c>s10 :i* move m5 quickly f place to place4' #8,x is (t5 a f9e ?+ to g quickly f place to place1' said ,lysis4 #8,:y1 yes1' ,i said1 #8& 9 addition ! control ( ^! ma*9es gives great joy to ! ,am]icans4 ,s t x may well happ5 t !y w live altoge!r 9 _! c>s4 ,= at pres5t !y mu/ endeav\r to f9d "s place 9 ! city :]e !y c leave _! c> :ile !y g to an (fice1 & he :o is successful 9 do+ ?is is said to h p>k$ 8 c>1 & is held 9 hon\r4 ,& z among _m peoples a y\? is n grant$ ! dignity ( manhood until he has sla9 an enemy1 s among ! ,am]icans mu/ he fir/ prove himself by p>k+ a c>4' #8,!y w\ld become m5 soon] if !irs 0 ! old te/ ( slay+ a man1 w\ld !y n8' said ,lysis1 #8= t requires b little skill 9 controll+ c>s & a /\t he>t is alone suffici5t4' #8,:y1 yes1' ,i said1 #8& x is my belief t ! pres5t /ate ( affairs _c endure & t to p>k w soon be beyond ! wit ( any save a true philosoph]1 :o w gu>d 8 place by 8 pres5ce ^u x night & day4 ,s did ,diog5es pres]ve 8 claim to ! spot :]e he p>k$ 8 tub4 ,= ! tru? c be consid]$ 9 any place1 z ,i obs]v$ to ! traffic-policem5 9 ,new ,york1 :o object$ to my exam9ation ( ,glaucon 9 ,broadway4 ,b = ! ord9>y ,am]icans1 ,i ?9k1 !re is no solution except ! abolition ( (fices & ! transaction ( all bus9ess 9 c>s4 ,!y w equip _! c>s z (fices & drive f _! homes to ! m>ket-place4 ,^! c>-(fices w enjoy all ! space t is at pres5t fill$ ) build+s4 ,:5 _! c>s are s fitt$ z to take all ! pap]s ( _! bus9ess1 !y c "w freely on ! j\rneys out & home1 dictat+ to _! cl]ks z !y g4 ,nor w x mu* surprise me if ! private home is aboli%$ to give place to ! resid5tial c> s t ! ,am]ican s\l may f9d a f9al happ9ess1 & m5 may be born 9 c>s & live & w$ & die 9 !m1 & be cremat$ 9 ! eng9e1 )\t ev] hav+ to put a foot on ! gr\nd4 ,& s w arise a new race to take ! place ( ! c5taurs ( old4 ,=1 z ! c5taurs 7 half m5 & half horses1 s w ^! be half m5 & half motor-c>s4 ,& x w\ld seem t ( su* a race ! natural su/5ance w\ld be alcohol4 ,s1 at lea/1 ! future appe>s to me1 or d y n ?9k s1 ,aga?on8' #8,no'1 he said4 #8,well1' ,i repli$1 #8y may be "r4 ,x may happ5 t ev]ybody w be run ov] 9 ! next few ye>s1 :i* w disprove all our prophecies & speculations4' #8,yes1' he said1 #8t is mu* m likely4' #8,b ,i ?9k1' ,i cont9u$1 #8t we w say t :e!r or n ! ,am]icans rema9 9 _! c>s1 we = our "p w h no?+ to d ) !m1 b r reg>d !m z a vexati\s int]ruption ( "r liv+1 & 9 p>ticul> z a great di/raction 9 ! se>* = tru?4 ,& we w refuse to sit ourselves d[n z ! ,am]icans love to d & />t ! ma*9]y & foll[ :i!rsoev] ! c> leads4 ,= d y notice h[ we h w&]$ out ( our c\rse1 z g5]ally happ5s ) ^! ma*9es1 & h q =gott5 ! orig9al ?read ( our disc\rse & ! "q :y ! ,am]icans wor%ip ?is /range god ,progress1 mak+ an incantation ( ! "n & *ant+ x z if x 7 an explanation ( ! way !y sp5d _! lives8' #8,well1 ,socrates1' said ,aga?on1 #8mo/ gods are /range1 & if !y 7 n /range we %\ld be d\btful if !y 7 gods4' #8,true1' ,i said1 #8b !re is a /rang5ess :i* helps ! div9e "p ( ! s\l & a /rang5ess :i* oppresses x4 ,if we consid] ! pa/ =tunes ( ,am]ica we %all see h[ ! wor%ip ( !irs grew up4 ,&1 to beg9 )1 are n ! ,am]icans "r :5 !y say t !irs is a great c\ntry8' #8,yes1' said ,aga?on1 #8x is c]ta9ly va/4' #8,& ri* 9 ! weal? ( its agriculture & m9]als & s (f]+ a fair field = endeav\r & great rew>ds = ent]prise & skill8' #8,assur$ly1' he said4 #8,!n we mu/ rememb] t ! ,am]icans are = ! mo/ "p ! desc5dants ( ^? :o left ,europe z poor m54 ,& ?is is true :e!r we are consid]+ ^? orig9al ,am]icans ( ?ree hundr$ ye>s ago1 or ^? :o w5t !re )9 ! la/ c5tury1 aft] ! o!rs _h fre$ !mselves f ! tyrant ,george4' #8,0 ?is ,george a heavy tyrant8' ask$ ,lysis1 #8= tyrant is a h>% "n1 & ,i h read t ! ,engli% !mselves 7 always well pleas$ ) him4' #8,i mu/ confess1' ,i said1 #8t he does n appeal mu* to me4 ,few m5 h less resembl$ ! philosoph] ,k+4 ,x is pla9 t reason 0 weak 9 8 s\l1 & t he 0 n>r[ & ob/9ate & full ( craft9ess1 & t ! ,engli% only lov$ him z a *eck ^u _! less] ov]lords & z ! *ief ( _! nation 9 _! w>s ) ! ,fr5*1 :i* cont9u$ all 8 reign4 ,& ?\gh he did n actually oppress ! ,am]icans x 0 n ( advantage to !m to be 8 subjects1 nor a ?+ to :i* !y _h ( necessity to submit4' ,"h ,lysis look$ up1 & said3 #8,tell me1 ,socrates1 d y ?9k !y regret x n[1 & t !y w soon return to _! allegiance to ,k+ ,george's h\se1 = an ,engli% lady told me t x w\ld happ5 v quickly1 ! revolt hav+ end$ 9 ! muddle ,am]ica is 9 n[4' #8,t ^w 8muddle0 is a fav\rite ) ! ,engli%1' said ,aga?on4 #8,& rightly1' said ,i1 #8s9ce our words are to designate ! ?+s among :i* we live4 ,i "k x is a common view among ! ,engli% t ! ,am]icans w ab&on ?is attempt ( !irs to f\nd a new c\ntry1 & t aft] ?is pres5t ,presid5t ,coolidge !y w n elect ano!r1 b w all pack up & return to ! c\ntries f :i* !y orig9ally came1 regrett+ ! increas+ly disa/r\s exp]im5t & go+ back meekly to _! respective k+s & rul]s1 & leav+ ,am]ica to ! ,r$ ,indians & ! ,buffalos1 ^: political life runs m easily4 ,b1 = my "p1 ,i reject ?is op9ion1 & believe t ! ,am]icans w p]sev]e4' #8,i ?9k s1 too1' said ,aga?on4 #8,& s x is important to consid] ?is religi\s view ( !irs ab\t ,progress4 ,i said t mo/ ( ! ,am]icans w5t !re 9 ! la/ hundr$ ye>s & f\nd abundant rew>ds = "w4 ,! great ne$ ( ev]ybody 0 t ! total weal? %\ld be increas$ & ! c\ntry r5d]$ fruitful1 or 9 _! phrase 8op5$ up40 ,?is real occupation ( ,am]ica 0 ! great & absorb+ bus9ess ( ! ,am]icans1 :o 7 n tr\bl$ ) /rong =eign enemies4 ,_! able/ citiz5s devot$ !mselves to ! pursuit ( weal?1 & receiv$ ! public admiration because 9 g5]al1 at t "t1 ! man :o enri*$ himself enri*$ also ev]yone else4 ,we mu/ rememb] t ! ,am]icans came f c\ntries :]e !re 0 a rul+ ca/e to :i* !y did n belong1 & f ! fir/ !y s fram$ ! con/itution t x %\ld be cle> t ! m9i/]s 7 ! s]vants ( ! p4 ,:ile ! indep5d5ce 0 new & prec>i\s1 int]e/ & pre/ige /ill foll[$ ^? :o transact$ ! bus9ess ( ! p1 b :5 ! novelty _h vani%$ ! att5tion ( ev]ybody 0 turn$ to develop+ ! e/ate !y _h won4 ,no "o 0 will+ to be a m9i/] )\t ! weal? & dignity ( ,european rul]s1 & political life attract$ n ! be/ b ! less successful & able ( ! community1 & ceas$ to fire ! ambition ( ! "y4 ,= ! life ( ! c\ntry 0 altoge!r 9 its economic developm5t & n 9 its political affairs4' ,!n ,aga?on said3 #8,& %\ld y n also say t political life 0 made h>d] 9 ,am]ica ?an else:]e8' #8,assur$ly1 we %\ld1' ,i answ]$1 #8= ! tru? is t ?is same wor%ip ( size & numb]s t we spoke ( be=e has n[h]e hurt ! ,am]icans m ?an 9 ! ord]+ ( _! political life4 ,d y rememb]1 ,lysis1 he>+ ( a discussion ov] ! ideal ,/ate & h[ _m m5 x 0 settl$ %\ld =m ! ,/ate1 & :at 0 ! numb] beyond :i* x 0 unsafe = a ,/ate to gr[8' #8,five ?\s& & =ty1' he said1 #8is ! figure ,plato gives4' #8,& w x surprise y to le>n t ! ,am]icans consid]ably exce$ t figure8' #8,i _h suspect$ z mu*1' he repli$1 #8f ! cr[ds ( !m t visit ,a!ns1 = !y mu/ leave "s ( _! numb] beh9d to hold ! c\ntry1 & !re mu/ be v _m ?\s&s ( !m to provide all ^? audi5ces = ,xantippe4 ,&1 aft] all1 nobody ev] q does :at ,plato says1 n ev5 :5 he makes y1 ,socrates1 ! m\?piece ( 8 views4 ,i w guess two hundr$ ?\s&4' #8,& :at w y say :5 ,i tell y t y are yet %ort ( ! real numb]1 & t1 n to make a long /ory1 ! ,am]icans are f> m pl5tiful ?an ! subjects ( ! ,great ,k+ himself8 ,!re are m ?an "o hundr$ million ,am]icans4' ,aft] a long pause1 ,phaelon said r fa9tly3 #8,:y1 ,socrates8' #8,t1' ,i answ]$1 #8is kn[n only to ! ,gods1 ^: ways are n ! ways ( mortals1 b c]ta9ly !y h made ?is enorm\s numb] ( ,am]icans & h n /opp$ yet4' #8,no wond] s _m ( !m come to ,europe1' said ,lysis4 #8,b li/51' ,i said1 #8= ! mo/ extraord9>y ?+ is yet to come4 ,:at w y ?9k ( su* p :5 ,i tell y t !y endeav\r to live all "u "o gov]nm5t & to %>e "o ,assembly8' #8,socrates1' said ,lysis1 sitt+ up & look+ me /raight 9 ! face1 #8,i d n believe y4' ,,book ,,ii ,i !n expla9$ to !m z well z ,i c\ld ab\t ! =ty-eight ,/ates t make up ! ,unit$ ,/ates1 mak+ x pla9 t ea* ,/ate _h its own gov]nm5t1 b t !re 0 also ! ,f$]al ,gov]nm5t1 :i* _h au?ority ev]y:]e4 ,& ?is !y und]/ood readily en\gh1 = ! notion ( a f$]ation ( communities 0 famili> to !m4 ,i told !m briefly ( h[ orig9ally !re 7 ,nor? & ,s\?1 & ( ! ,civil ,w>1 :i* 0 f\ght to e/abli% ! asc5dancy ( ! ,f$]al ,gov]nm5t1 & ,i made x pla9 t t asc5dancy _h gr[n great] to ?is day & t ! ,/ate ,gov]nm5ts _h become m & m unimportant4 ,& ,i did n hide f !m t ! *oos+ ( p>ties & policies = ! c5tral assembly became less & less a ?+ ov] :i* ord9>y citiz5s _h any control at all1 & t n[h]e else 9 ! _w did ! memb]s s *os5 receive less respect or less truly repres5t ! p elect+ !m4 #8,yet1' ,i said1 #8! ,am]icans are extremely atta*$ to _! ,c5tral ,gov]nm5t1 f> m ?an !y are to ! gov]nm5ts ( _! own ,/ates4' ,lysis pond]$ = "s mom5ts on ^! ?+s1 & !n said3 #8,0 ?is a great civil w>8' #8,well1' said ,aga?on1 #8we ,greeks h a high /&>d = su* w>s1 :5 ,greek meets ,greek4 ,b = b>b>ians x 0 a /]n /ruggle4' #8,& t]rible 9 its results1' ,i said1 #8z y w agree if y are ( my op9ion t t ,civil ,w> 0 ! mo/ disa/r\s ?+ 9 ! hi/ory ( ! ,am]icans1 if x fa/5$ on _! necks s great a mock]y ( popul> gov]nm5t z is _! c5tral gov]nm5t4' #8,assur$ly !y w\ld n h f\ght = x if !y _h =ekn[n ! future1' he said4 #8,on ! contr>y1' ,i said1 #8mo/ ( !m consid] t x 0 ! turn+ po9t 9 _! hi/ory1 & !y h made _! *ief h]o ( ! /atesman :o sav$ ! ,union4' #8,:y8' ask$ ,phaelon4 #8,because be+ "o has made !m big & /rong1 or r big & ri*4 ,because ! c5tral gov]nm5t made comm]ce easi] betwe5 m5 9 diff]5t ,/ates1 & ?us assi/$ ! great developm5t ( ! c\ntry :i* has m>k$ ! ye>s s9ce ! ,civil ,w>4 ,9 p>ticul> ! victory secur$ ! m>ket ( ! defeat$ ,/ates = ! manufactur]s ( ! ,nor?4 ,x is necess>y to rememb] ^! ?+s1 = 9 ,am]ica x is ! manufactur]s & _! wives :o decide :at o!r p %all ?9k1 = among _! o!r products !y manufacture public op9ion4' #8,come1 ,socrates1' said ,aga?on1 #8y =get y\r old fri5ds ! prea*]s4' #8,well1' ,i repli$1 #8,i f9d ! prea*]s h great influ5ce4 ,yet !y only succe$ 9 ^? matt]s :]e ! manufactur]s support !m1 ?\gh ! union ( ! two is irresi/ible4' #8,:at w\ld happ51' ask$ ,lysis1 #8if ! prea*]s wi%$ "o ?+ & ! manufactur]s ano!r8' #8,t seldom happ5s1' ,i said4 #8,= ! majority ( prea*]s h nev] be5 kn[n to wage a campaign aga9/ any activities t are ?\ght desirable by ! m5 ( comm]ce1 su* z ! pro/itution ( ! s\l :i* is call$ salesman%ip1 or ! conc5tration ^u bus9ess success :i* is call$ 8mak+ good40 ,b !y attack ^? pleasures ( ord9>y m51 l gambl+ & dr9k+1 :i* ! manufactur]s w support !m 9 attack+4 ,= ,i v]ily believe !y ?9k x worse to be a drunk>d ?an to sell "o's s\l = gold4 ,nor is x difficult to und]/& h[ !y h rea*$ ev5 su* absurdities z ?is4' #8,we are li/5+1' !y said4 #8,:y1 !y hold t "s s9s might unfit a man to s]ve ! ,gods1 & 9 p>ticul> ! ,god ,progress1 = !y d n value all ! gods equally1 & to ,bac*us !y w n agree to pay any hon\rs at all4 ,n[1 to ^? :o ?9k l t1 a man w seem n :olly bad ?\gh ! reasonable "p ( 8 s\l be subord9at$ to a %ameless desire = pelf1 because su* a man c play 8 "p1 &1 inde$1 be a lead]1 9 t indu/rial life1 walk+ calmly among ! :irr+ :eels & runn+ ! ma*9es ^: buzz !y consid] a p]petual song ( praise to ,progress4 ,b a drunk>d _c safely assi/ at ^! s]vices4' #8,he might1' said ,aga?on1 #8if he w\ld n m9d be+ caught up 9 ! :eels & immolat$ z a sacrifice1 b ,i c well believe he sees en\gh ?+s go+ r\nd z x is )\t go+ into factories to see m4' #8,s ! manufactur]s1' ,i resum$1 #87 /rongly 9 fav\r ( ?is ,civil ,w>1 & ! prea*]s 7 ) !m4 ,& ^! two p>ties make up ! m9ds ( millions ( p4' #8,x mu/ be f9e fun1 ,socrates1' said ,lysis1 #8to make up s _m m9ds l t4' #8,inde$ !y f9d x s1 yet !y mu/ d x ) c>e1 = 9 _m matt]s !y d n h ! p[] ( mak+ ! ,am]icans ?9k absolutely any?+ !y please1 b only ! p[] ( mak+ "o out ( sev]al op9ions prevail4 ,= !y see ! ,am]ican s\l l a %ip ) full-belli$ sails1 go+ to "o ( sev]al h>b\rs1 accord+ z ! w9ds & curr5ts drive x1 & ^! manufactur]s & ^! prea*]s c decide on ! h>b\r & drive t %ip be=e _! mighty bla/s & bl[+s1 scatt]+ away all contr>y w9ds4' ,at ?is ,lysis look$ v ?\ghtful1 & !n said sl[ly3 #8,if !y h inde$ s mu* p[] x mu/ be t !re is "s correspond5ce 9 ! ,am]ican s\l1 & t ! manufactur]s & ! prea*]s are /rong 9 ! national life because ! manufactur+ "p ( ! s\l & ! prea*+ "p ( ! s\l is /rong inside ! ord9>y ,am]ican4 ,= s y h expla9$ to me t ! con/itution ( a ,/ate is reflect$ 9 ! con/itution ( ! s\ls ( its citiz5s4' #8,my excell5t ,lysis1' ,i said1 #8y h well /at$ a difficult tru?1 & mu* ( ! p[] ( ^! p comes f ! fact t an ,am]ican ?9ks he ought to li/5 to a manufactur] because he himself1 9 8 own s\l1 ?9ks highly ( manufactur+1 & w n li/5 to a philosoph]1 ?9k+ meanly ( philosophy4 ,s also he admires a prea*]1 ?\gh su* are seldom humble & _m1 inde$1 g ab\t bur/+ ) presumption & act+ z ?\gh !y 7 wis] & bett] ?an all o!r m54 ,b !re is a fur!r explanation ( _! p[]4 ,^! manufactur]s & prea*]s are organiz$ & h ! use ( money1 s t !y c pay m5 to write & repeat ! same ?+s ov] & ov] aga91 till ! ,am]icans1 f see+ & he>+ !m s (t51 assume t !y are true4' ,!n ,lysis said3 #8,has ! /r5g!n+ ( ?is p[]1 ,socrates1 be5 ! wor/ ( ! evils t result$ f ! ,civil ,w>8' #8,_m & heavy h be5 ! ills1' said ,i1 #8result+ f t conte/ & ! views dictat$ by ! ,nor?4' #8,!re are ^?1' ,aga?on said1 #8:o say t all t has happ5$ w\ld h happ5$ )\t ! ,civil ,w>4' #8,yes1' ,i said1 #8b we _c pret5d to "k t4 ,& s ,i am cont5t to look at :at has tak5 place & to trace h[ ev5ts h help$ ea* o!r )\t foll[+ su* writ]s into ! m>%es & bogs ( hypo!tical imag9+s4 ,n[ x seems to me t ! ,civil ,w> gave ! dea? /roke to _! political life1 = x made ! c5tral gov]nm5t supreme ov] ! /ates at ! same "t z x made ! int]e/s ( comm]ce pr$om9ant ov] ! c5tral gov]nm5t4' #8,expla9 to u1 ,socrates1' !y said1 z ,i 0 expect+ !y w\ld4 #8,:y1' ,i said1 #8y c easily und]/& t ! w> /r5g!n$ ! c5tral gov]nm5t1 giv+ x new duties & new p[]s1 & fix+ all m5's eyes ^u x1 & accu/om+ !m to ?9k its ne$s & acts ( great] importance ?an ! conc]ns ( _! own localities4' #8,yes1' !y said4 #8,& if t v w> is 9 support ( ! gov]nm5t's claim to au?ority & is wag$ successfully1 mu/ n ! pre/ige ( t gov]nm5t be e/abli%$1 & t ( ! small] gov]nm5ts dim9i%$8' #8,x mu/1' !y ass5t$4 #8,n[1 d y ?9k1' ,i ask$1 #8t an ord9>y man w be able to und]/& or ev5 to foll[ que/ions ( policy1 especially :5 he is f> away f ! place ( gov]nm5t & is absorb$ 9 ! pursuit ( 8 private ga98' #8,assur$ly n4' #8,& t 9 proportion z ,am]ica has increas$ 9 size & weal? ea* citiz5 has less & less felt able to take "p 9 ! gov]nm5t1 or ev5 to weigh & judge ( ! op9ions ( ! o!r citiz5s :5 !re are s _m ( !m4 ,= mo/ citiz5s "k only a small "p ( _! enorm\s c\ntry4 ,& s mo/ ( !m d n foll[ ! que/ions ( ! public int]e/ & act a "p 9 political life1 :i* has become 9 _! c\ntry a trade l any o!r4 ,& z all trad]s mu/ keep ! goodwill ( ! public1 s especially mu/ ^? :o provide adm9i/ration4 ,b ! ne$ = goodwill is n a great *eck 9 any trade :]e competition is weak1 & two conc]ns h a monopoly & c sell :at article !y l & call x adm9i/ration4 ,fur!rmore1 ?is w> left /rong feel+s s t m5 /ood firmly by _! p>ties1 & x kept float+ 9 ! air _m f9e names l 8,am]ican0 & 8,republican10 & 8,union10 9 :i* ! m5 ( comm]ce :o desir$ to run ! gov]nm5t c\ld dress !mselves up4 ,= x is difficult = su* m5 !mselves to inv5t names :i* ar\se emotion1 & yet !y d n d>e to call ?+s by _! true names & %[ !mselves z !y are4 ,b ! memories ( ! w> made a gr& cloak = _! bus9ess purposes4' #8,yes1' said ,lysis1 #8,i am beg9n+ to see h[ _! p[] 0 rivet$ on ! necks ( ! ,am]icans1 :5 !y _h all ^? p[]ful words at _! disposal4' #8,at ! v "t1' ,i said1 #8t !y 7 mak+ ^? railways ( !irs & 7 det]m9$ to control ! public treasury4 ,&1 moreov]1 does x n foll[ t p[] w belong to :oev] c p]suade ! ,am]icans t popul> op9ion is ) him & t1 ! l>g] ! numb] & ! area1 ! great] ! p[] ( ^? :o are ri* & c pay = propag&a8' #8,:at exactly is propag&a8' said ,lysis4 #8,x is1 ) adv]tis+1 ! *ief curse ( ! ,am]icans1 & may1 inde$1 be describ$ z political adv]tis+4 ,= nev] 9 ! hi/ory ( ! _w has !re be5 s wond]ful a field = ! skilful p]suad] z are ^! mod]n democracies1 :]e all ! p c read & v few ( !m c ?9k4 ,all are secretly unc]ta9 ( !mselves1 & 9 ,am]ica m s ?an else:]e1 & look to see :at _! neighb\rs are ?9k+ & desire to be c\nt$ among ! majority4 ,= no?+ is /rong] 9 ,am]ica ?an ?is desire to belong to ! majority & to say 8,we ?9k0 or 8,we feel40 ,& x is natural = bus9ess m5 to be timid1 = _! bus9ess dep5ds ^u ! good op9ion ( o!rs1 & s x is t bus9ess m5 v easily become hypocrites4 ,i believe myself ! ,am]ican m5 d n m9d dy+ s9ce x means jo9+ ! great majority4' #8,& "o ev] gr[+ great]1' add$ ,aga?on4 #8,yes1' ,i said1 #8b !y w n enjoy ,hades1 :]e "t is n money any m1 & no "o b ,*>on has any weal?1 s t ! mo/ =w>d salesman%ip w be 9 va94' #8,poor ,am]icans1' said ,lysis1 #8!y w feel v lo/4' #8,!y w und]/& giv+ a sop to ,c]b]us1' said ,aga?on2 #8x w be l _! own politics4 ,& !y w l ! cr[ds4' #8,come1 my good fri5ds1' ,i said1 #8cease to t>ry ) ! ,am]icans 9 ,hades1 & let me resume my tale ( _! e>?ly mis=tunes4' #8,pray d s1 ,socrates1' !y said4 #8,!n ,i w say1' ,i resum$1 #8t ! second great disa/] ( t w> has be5 ?is3 t by ! me*anism ( ! ,con/itution 7to use a phrase (t5 9 _! m\?s1 by :i* !y mean t ! laws made = o!r times & conditions produce diff]5t & /range results to-day71 ! op9ions & ideas ( "o "p ( ! c\ntry become ! laws t are to be obey$ by all ! p>ts4 ,= x is ! p ( ! ,nor? spread+ we/w>d to ! great riv]s t h built up 9 ! great agricultural pla9s ! gr[+ empire ( ! ,middle ,we/1 ( :i* we spoke e>li]1 :]e ! prea*]s & manufactur]s h mo/ p[] ( all1 hav+ secur$ ! e> ( ! wom54 ,except = an accid5t once or twice ! same p>ty has be5 9 p[] ev] s9ce ! w>1 & t is ! p>ty ( ! ,nor? & ! manufactur]s1 & ! ,s\? h h>dly m voice 9 ! c5tral gov]nm5t ?an if !y 7 frankly gov]n$ z subjects4' #8,:at sort ( p 7 ^! 9 ! ,s\?8' ask$ ,lysis4 #8,! be/ ( !m 7 ! v be/ sort ( b>b>ians1' ,i repli$1 #8& ! ne>e/ to civilization ( all ! ,am]icans4' #8,b !y are f ,e?iopia1 are !y n8' said ,lysis1 #8= ,i h he>d m5 :i/l+ 9 ! /reets ( ,a!ns songs 9 :i* ! s+] praises ! blackness ( 8 lov]'s or "m's face & ^! songs are :at m5 s+ 9 ^! ,s\!rn ,/ates4' #8,:y1' ,i said1 #8c y n guess ! explanation1 = inde$ x is n difficult8 ,^! ,s\!rn]s _h black slaves4 ,inde$1 ! w> 0 l>gely caus$ by t4' #8,h[1' said ,lysis4 #8,:y1 among b>b>ians x is n natural t "o man %\ld s]ve ano!r1 = all are slaves by nature4 ,&1 9 g5]al all are slaves to "o despot1 z among ! ,p]sians4 ,n[ 9 ,am]ica ! nor!rn b>b>ians 7 angry t ! ,s\!rn]s 7 s]v$ by ,e?iopians1 :om !y decl>$ to be 9 all respects ! equals ( ! :ites4 ,& :5 !y won ! d\btful /ruggle1 !y wrote 9 _! ,con/itution t t 0 s4 ,= !y believe !y c *ange ! nature ( ?+s by *ang+ t ,con/itution ( !irs4 ,b1 inde$1 !y h made mu* less diff]5ce ?an !y ?9k1 & fre$ individuals r ?an ! race itself1 & ! *ief "p ( ! ,e?iopians1 &1 z ,i believe1 ! happie/1 are ^? s]v+ 9 ! fields & h\seholds ( ! ,s\?4 ,=1 if y d n pursue ! life ( reason z only ! few c d1 x is bett] to s]ve a man pursu+1 ev5 fa9tly1 t life ?an to pass y\r days 9 ! fev] ( petty trad+4 ,b ^! ,nor!rn]s came f ari/ocratic c\ntries :]e !y _h suff]$ ! insol5ce ( ari/ocrats1 & did n und]/& rightly ab\t p]sonal dignity4 ,= !y are fill$ ) pride aga9/ p]sonal s]vice1 be+ full ( self-ass]tion t[>ds individuals & ( slavi%ness t[>ds public op9ion4 ,:]eas1 rightly1 a man %\ld n ?9k himself l[]$ by any useful s]vice to a good man1 suppos+ he %\ld meet ) "o1 b %\ld feel x extreme degradation to h& ov] 8 s\l to ! keep+ ( ! cr[d4 ,or does x n seem s to y8' #8,:y1 yes1 ,socrates1' answ]$ ,aga?on2 #8,i c see ^! ,nor!rn]s 7 ! mo/ unsuitable p possible to h a voice 9 ! ord]+ ( ! ,s\?4' #8,h[ev]1' ,i said1 #8x has happ5$ n[1 & ! ,s\!rn]s 7 all r5d]$ poor by ! exhau/ion ( ! /ruggle1 s t %e] necessity has *ang$ ! "* ( s\!rn life4 ,b !y /ill cont9ue to %[ great und]/&+1 = p :o are n ,greeks4 ,!y measure ?+s by o!r /&>ds ?an quantity1 & !y d n ?9k meanly ( leisure4 ,b _! glories !y h left ^u ! field ( battle4' #8,yes1' said ,aga?on1 #8& ?\gh !y 7 able to prev5t ! ,nor? f dictat+ to !m h[ !y %\ld live1 !y h be5 unable to d ! great "w !y 7 ne$$ to d4 ,= no?+ else c\ld *eck ! ,middle ,we/ :5 t grew /rong4' #8,i agree ) y1 ,aga?on1' ,i said1 #8& n[ ! /&>ds ( ! manufactur]s spread /eadily ?r\gh ! :ole c\ntry4 ,t 0 ! ?ird disa/]1 & !re /ill rema9s a f\r?4' #8,tell u1 !n1' said ,lysis1 #8ab\t ! f\r? disa/] :i*1 z x seems1 ?is un=tunate ,civil ,w> has caus$4' #8,:y1' ,i said1 #8did we n say t x _h fix$ ! att5tion ( ev]ybody ^u ! c5tral or f$]al gov]nm5t8' #8,we did4' #8,& made !m cease to ?9k ( !mselves z memb]s ( ?is /ate or t1 b r z ,am]icans4' #8,assur$ly4' #8,b if ! ,nor? _h fail$ to impose unity1 n ! ,s\!rn ,/ates only b 9 all probability ! ,nor!rn ones also w\ld h be5 virtually indep5d5t ( ea* o!r1 & only jo9$ to "o ano!r 9 "s k9d ( ,league su* z we ,greeks are us$ to4 ,nor? ,am]ica w\ld h resembl$ ,s\? ,am]ica1 b ,i ?9k !re w\ld h be5 ev5 m complete peace among ! ,nor? ,am]ican ,/ates ?an among ^? ( ,s\? ,am]ica4' #8,c]ta9ly1' ,aga?on said1 #8!y live ) ! ,canadians 9 great & /rik+ amity4 ,b !y d n believe _! condition w\ld h be5 "o to envy4' #8,no1' ,i said1 #8probably all sorts ( o!r mis=tunes w\ld h visit$ !m4 ,b !y _c really expect any?+ else1 x be+ ! nature ( b>b>ians to incur disa/]s4 ,we1 h[ev]1 are consid]+ _! actual ills to-day4 ,c !y d5y t !y w\ld h be5 sav$ f t glorification ( /r5g? :i* is a fatal temptation to great & p[]ful peoples1 & nev] m ?an :5 !y are un*eck$ by ! pres5ce ( /rong neighb\rs8' #8,!y _c d5y x1 ,socrates1' said ,aga?on4 #8,z x is1 mu/ we n say ! size ( _! political unit has done great h>m to ! ,am]ican s\l8 ,= e numb] t is suffici5tly l>ge is to !m a magical numb]1 & ! ,am]icans come easily to believe t ev]y?+ !y ?9k or d mu/ be "r because !re are s _m ( !m ?9k+ or do+ x4 ,& mo/ ( all d !y t5d to ?9k t !y _c h any?+ to le>n f =eign nations because ,am]ica is bigg]4' #8,are !re really f> m ,am]icans ?an o!r p8' ask$ ,phaelon4 #8,no1' ,i said1 #8!re are1 9 fact1 f> m ,*9am5 ?an !re are ,am]icansb !y say t !re is ano!r te/ ( sup]iority besides size4' #8,& :at is t8' ask$ ,phaelon4 #8,spe$4' #8,h[8' #8,! spe$1' ,i expla9$1 #8) :i* ! size is atta9$4 ,& !y say !y are greatly sup]ior to ! ,*9ese 9 spe$ ( developm5t1 & ?is claim ,i believe to be true4' ,lysis nodd$ 8 head sl[ly f side to side & said3 #8,inde$1 ,socrates1 ! ills affect+ ! ,am]icans seem to be _m & heavy4' #8,b worse1' ,i said1 #8is to come1 unless !y w *ange altoge!r & ab&on _! pride & li/5 meekly to ! philosoph]s4' #8,h[1 ,socrates8' #8,:y1' ,i said1 #8!y are doom$ to fru/ration1 = ! opportunities ( weal? are n inf9ite4 ,& at fir/ x 0 reasonable to enc\rage m5 ( bus9ess t ! res\rces ( ! l& might be organiz$1 b :5 t has be5 done !re beg9s a /ruggle among ! p = ! l>ge/ %>e ( ! res\rces4 ,&1 9 ! end1 t phase also passes & ! game is play$ out & ! diff]5t res\rces are controll$ by diff]5t gr\ps ( m54 ,no newcom]s c fight aga9/ !m1 & ! "y m5 mu/ be cont5t to s]ve ^! gr\ps1 f9d+ _! rew>d 9 promotion & pay z ?\gh !y 7 soldi]s1 z 9 a mann] !y are4 ,& ^! promotions also gr[ rigid & me*anical 9 "t4 ,& great weal? is !n only to be won 9 "s /range & lucky way1 & ! battle = ! m>ket gr[s ke5]1 & ! clev]e/ m5 devote !mselves to :at !y call progressive adv]tis+1 & ! 8,problem ( ,salesman%ip40' #8,:at is progressive adv]tis+8' ask$ ,lysis4 #8,x is ar\s+ ! wide/ possible s5se ( want4' #8,:at is ! ,problem ( ,salesman%ip8' ask$ ,phaelon4 #8,x is h[ be/ to mislead p ab\t _! own desires2 p]suad+ !m to give _! "t & /r5g? & money to obta9 some?+ !y d n at all ne$1 ?us mak+ !m ! in/rum5ts ( y\r private ga94' ,phaelon at once dem&$3 #8,& d !y kill ! salesman :o does ?is8' #8,by ! pill>s ( ,h]cules1 no6 !y use ! gold ( ! public treasury to tea* x 9 _! s*ools1 = !y ?9k t all m5 %\ld le>n to prey ^u "o ano!r 9 ?is way1 deceiv+ & do+ h>m to "o ano!r ) _! tongues4' #8,x seems to me1 ,socrates1' said ,lysis1 #8t ^! p sp5d _! en]gies 9 _m /range & d\btful ways4' #8,!y d1 inde$1' ,i ass5t$4 #8,& !y h s mu* en]gy1' said ,aga?on4 #8,x is /up5d\s1' ,i said4 #8,:5 ,i w5t to ,niag>a ,falls an ,am]ican said x made him sad t s mu* p[] 0 go+ to wa/e t might be made productive4 ,& ,i repli$ t ,i felt 9 t mann] ab\t ! va/ en]gies ( ! p1 = if !y c\ld be h>ness$ to ! problems ( philosophy mu* k might result4 ,= if we c\ld h ! en]gy pure )\t any ( ! ,am]ican nature fix+ its "*1 arm$ ) s p[]ful a tool we c\ld cle> up _m d\btful speculations4 ,b he seem$ to ?9k ,i want$ ev]ybody to busy !mselves ) s]i\s que/ions1 ?\gh ! ?\ghts ( su* p w\ld1 ( c\rse1 be useless1 & he recomm5d$ me to take my proposition to an editor ( a magaz9e1 = he said t he 8_h a hun* philosophy might cat* on1 see+ ! success ( ^? o!r ^w-puzzle crazes40' #8,x 0 lucky = him1 ,socrates1' exclaim$ ,lysis #8t y are s pati5t ) fools4 ,did y reason ) him8' #8,i attempt$ x1' ,i repli$4 #8,b he said he _h no "t to reason & t if he once began he w\ld nev] 8make good40 ,& 9 t1 at lea/1 ,i agre$ ) him4' #8,& y 7 n angry ) him at all1 ,o excell5t ,socrates1' exclaim$ ,lysis4 #8,pity1' ,i answ]$1 #8& n ang]1 0 :at ,i felt1 = ,i knew t he _h n a free m9d ( 8 own1 b 01 l mo/ ?+s 9 t c\ntry1 ! result ( :at !y pr\dly call 8mass production manufacture40' ,,book ,,iii #8,!n tell me1 ,socrates1 d y consid] ! ,am]icans to be free8' #8,:y1 no1' ,i said1 #8!y are ! lea/ free ( all ! peoples ( ! e>?4 ,= !y live "u a tyrant1 & "o n a :it m m]ciful ?an 0 ,procru/es4 ,= ,procru/es =c$ all ov] :om he c\ld obta9 p[] to become /&>diz$1 fitt+ !m to t b$ ( 8 & lopp+ (f ! feet ( ^? t 7 too long1 b rack+ & /ret*+ ! limbs ( ^? t 7 too %ort1 s t ! bodies ( all %\ld con=m to ! same m\ld4 ,b ! tyrant :o rules ! ,am]icansor all :om he c ma/]is worse ?an ,procru/es1 = he seeks to fa%ion & control n ! body1 z is ! way ( ord9>y tyrants1 b ! s\l itself4 ,he /&>dizes _! s\ls :]ev] he is /rong4' #8,truly a t]rible tyrant1' said ,lysis2 #8:o & :at is he8' #8,8 title1' ,i said1 #8is ,public ,op9ion1 or ! ,op9ion ( ! ,majority1 & he is ! (fspr+ ( ,propag&a4' #8,& :y1' said ,lysis1 #8d y call t op9ion by s h>% a "n8 ,= x seems to me t x is m s5sible to be rul$ by ! op9ion ( ! majority ?an by ! :im ( a s+le tyrant l mo/ b>b>ians1 or ! op9ion ( ! m9ority l ! ,engli%4' #8,come1' ,i repli$1 #8& let u exam9e ?is "q toge!r4 ,= does x n seem to y probable t m5 c be rul$ by op9ion 9 _m ways & t "s ways may well be good b o!rs bad8' #8,yes1' he said4 #8,& t !re w be a great diff]5ce betwe5 op9ions1 s9ce "s w really belong to ! p :o hold !m & be inde$ a "p ( !mselves1 :ile o!rs w be =c$ ^u !m f outside & w be repeat$ & act$ ^u ?r\gh fe>1 & s f> f be+ an expression ( ! s\l ( him :o utt]s !m1 !y w act z a great blanket /ifl+ ! brea? ( ! s\l & kill+ x & mak+ ! man an automaton & a slave & n a reasonable be+ at all4' #8,c]ta9ly1' said ,lysis4 #8,well1' ,i said1 #8we w leave = ! pres5t ! discussion ( ! ,engli% s\l1 be+ c>eful to return to x lat]1 & t = sev]al reasons4 ,= 9 ! fir/ place x is s odd & extraord9>y t x ar\ses our s5se ( wond] & we contemplate x )\t ef=t1 & secondly because x is always necess>y to consid] ! ,engli% :5 we consid] ! ,am]icans1 s great is ! effect ( ! two races ^u ea* o!r4 ,b n[ we w look z closely z we c into ! nature ( ?is tyrant1 :o1 z ,i v]ily believe1 is ! *ief evil f :i* ! ,am]icans suff]4 ,& ,i ?9k ,i %all lead y to agree ) me :5 we h se5 h[ _! pa/ hi/ory has made !m into a prey = su* a mon/]4' #8,expla9 x 9 y\r own way1' said ,aga?on1 #8s t ev5tually y come to ! po9t4' #8,:y1' ,i said1 #8,i wi% to approa* ?is matt] delicately1 tread+ c>efully l a sc\t at night & n ru%+ =w>d ) great %\ts1 = ,i d n "k h[ my words may be repeat$ & pr9t$ out wrongly 9 ! news-%eets ( ! ,am]icans4 ,= ! ,am]icans h long e>s1 & he> ev]y?+ t is said ( !m4 ,!y are s5sitive p & re/ive :5 criticiz$1 & if ,i speak bluntly1 z ,i g5]ally d1 !re w be _m :o w refuse h]eaft] to pay att5tion n to me only1 b to ,plato & to all ! ,greeks4 ,& yet x is among ! ,greeks t !y f9d ^? :o c tea* !m mo/ & give !m ! greate/ b5efits1 expla9+ to !m ! pr9ciples ( "r liv+ &1 9 p>ticul>1 ! necessity = exam9+ our notions & = be+ cauti\s ab\t decl>+ t we "k ?+s1 &1 above all1 = be+ tol]ant ( disagreem5t & discussion4' #8,! m5 ( ,a!ns1' said ,aga?on slyly1 #8h n always %[n y a prop] tol]ance1 ,socrates1 & !y are y\r own c\ntrym54 ,h[1 !n1 c y be surpris$ t ! ,bus9ess ,m5's ,lun*eon ,club ( ,hootsville1 ,i[a1 0 unwill+ to he> y\r d\bts1 = ,i "k t t exp]i5ce is :at is 9 y\r m9d4' #8,a s+ul> p[] inde$1' ,i exclaim$1 #8has be5 giv5 to y1 de> ,aga?on1 ( read+ ! m9ds ( y\r fri5ds4 ,b ,i assure y t !re is 9 my m9d at pres5t no su* p]sonal recollection4 ,i h only ! p[] to ?9k ( "o ?+ at a "t & ,i am n[ ?9k+ t we %all c]ta9ly nev] f9i% our inquiry if y keep laugh+ to y\rself 9 ?is way 9 ord] to make ,lysis curi\s ov] ! incid5ts ( my lectur+ t\r4' ,"h ,lysis int]v5$ 9 a *>m+ mann]1 & said to me3 #8,let him tell u ! /ory1 ,socrates1 = ,i c see he is dy+ to d s1 & ,i w confess t ,i want to he> x4 ,& :5 he has told x he %all keep quiet1 & y %all unfold to u ! nature ( ?is ,public ,op9ion4 ,& if he ?9ks he c make me d\bt ! wisdom ( y\r talk ,i w tell him at once t he is mi/ak51 & t we are only li/5+ to him z to a sort ( cl[n4' #8,s !y spoke ( ,socrates 9 ,hootsville1' said ,aga?on1 :o !n pull$ f 8 robe :at ,i saw 7 news cutt+s4 ,i rememb]$ ! great collection ( su* cutt+s t ,xantippe _h made1 & s5t back ) "s little malice = ! ,a!nians to read1 especially ( cutt+s ref]r+ 9 an outspok5 mann] to myself4 ,:5 he _h refre%$ 8 memory ) ^!1 he turn$ to ,lysis & said3 #8,y mu/ und]/&1 ,lysis1 t our fri5d "h has a diff]5t view ( "t f t held by ! ,am]icans4 ,= he lives 9 a leisurely way & is nev] hurri$ ev5 9 ! pursuit ( wisdom4 ,b ! ,am]icans are hurri$ 9 ev]y?+ !y d4 ,!y are hurri$ into ! _w & !y are hurri$ out aga91 & all ! "t x is a ru%1 all cry+ 8,/ep along !re1 please60 & ! "y apply+ to ! old _! prov]b1 8,pass "r along d[n ! c>40 ,no "o "h has ev] told ,socrates to /ep along4 ,n[ 9 no?+ are !y m hurri$ ?an 9 ! pursuit ( wisdom & tru?4 ,mo/ ( !m d n jo9 9 ! pursuit at all1 say+ !y h no "t to sp>e f ! pursuit ( weal?1 b "s w give tw5ty m9utes 9 ! week at a lun*eon4 ,& x 0 at "o ( ^! lun*eons t ,socrates spoke4' #8,is x possible bo? to eat & to talk 9 tw5ty m9utes8' ask$ ,lysis4 #8,! lun*eon la/s a full h\r1' repli$ ,aga?on1 #8b y mu/ und]/& t m5 s busy h mu* to d 9 t h\r4 ,9 ! fir/ place !y mu/ all keep fri5ds & indulge 9 fri5dly feel+s = :i* !re is no "t 9 ! re/ ( ! day4 ,& s !y we> ! names by :i* _! close fri5ds call !m on a piece ( pap] on _! g>m5ts1 s t ea* fri5d may rememb] ! special "n ( ! o!r4 ,! bran* ( comm]ce to :i* ea* "o is devot$ is also pr9t$ on ! piece ( pap] or c>d1 = ! ,am]icans und]/& t fri5d%ip consi/s 9 ! ex*ange ( s]vices4 ,& = ?is reason !y are c>eful to h only "o ( ea* call+ 9 ^! clubs4 ,b x is fur!rmore necess>y to feel *e]ful & light-he>t$ & to produce t 9 ! h\r is n easy4 ,lea/ ( all to m5 :o h be5 delud$ into d5y+ !mselves ^? f]m5t$ bev]ages :i* alone c bani% ! anxieties ( comm]ce4 ,s ^! m5 s+ songs z !y eat1 ris+ betwe5 ! m\?fuls to s+ praises ( _! club or _! t[n1 or sometimes to s+ t5d]ly ( _! mo!rs1 ( :om ! food be=e !m has caus$ !m to ?9k ) long+4 ,fur!rmore1 !re are ann\ncem5ts to be made & visitors & _! call+s to be proclaim$4 ,= ! ,am]icans nev] =get _! prov]b t fri5d%ip leads to bus9ess4 ,s y w und]/& ,socrates h>dly _h "t to make 8 po9ts1 &1 :e!r or n x 0 t no "o und]/ood him because to save "t !y _h made him beg9 :ile ! sweet 0 be+ s]v$ ) mu* clatt]1 yet x mu/ be admitt$ t ! pap] report$ x z 8confess$ly a disappo9tm5t aft] la/ week's slap-up talk on p]sonal contacts 9 bus9ess40' #8,poor ,socrates6' said ,lysis2 #8did no "o call y\rs a slap-up talk8' #8,i am afraid n1' ,i said1 #8b !n ,i said ?+s !y 7 n v eag] to he>1 & ev5 be=e ,i spoke !re _h be5 mu* "q :e!r ,i %\ld be ask$4' #8,yes1' said ,aga?on1 #8_m d\bt$ ! propriety ( ask+ him1 aft] a local m9i/] _h decl>$ t our fri5d 0 n only a sort ( dago b t he 0 ! l[e/ ( crawl+ creatures1 a man :o _h knock$ 8 own home t[n1 mean+ t he _h criticiz$ _m ( ! actions ( ! ,a!nians4 ,b ano!r m9i/] said t he _h some?+ 9 him & 0 a prom95t citiz5 back 9 ,a!ns1 & _h secur$ a wide publicity = 8 slogan 8,boo/ ,k10 ?\gh he 0 mi/ak5 9 ?9k+ t ,socrates _h us$ t actual expression4' #8,b :at 0 ! address ab\t8' ,lysis dem&$4 ,i answ]$ him3 #8,x 0 ab\t ! place ( lib]ty 9 ! life ( ! ,/ate1 :i* !y did n seem to me to und]/&4' #8,inde$1' said ,aga?on1 #8!y soon gr[ re/ive if y speak ( lib]ty4' #8,inde$ yes1' ,i ass5t$4 #8,& yet two m9utes be=e !y _h be5 s++ "s praises to a sweet l& ( lib]ty :i* 0 also1 z ,i und]/ood ! words1 ! home ( ! brave & free4 ,b :5 ! ,am]icans rejoice t !y are free !y mean free f ,k+ ,george ,,iii4 ,= !y are sl[ 9 "s matt]s4' #8,x is l y ,socrates1' said ,lysis1 #8to seize hold boldly ( ?is "q ( lib]ty & n to let g b to =ce !m to exam9e x4' #8,my he>t _h be5 t\*$1' ,i repli$1 #8by a spectacle :i* ,i saw :5 fir/ our boat an*or$ 9 ,new ,york ,h>b\r4 ,!re is an isl& !re call$ ,ellis ,isl&1 ! abode ( ! reject$ ( ,am]ica1 :]e ,i also sp5t two days4 ,_m emigrants ?9k t !y are emigrat+ to ! ,unit$ ,/ates :5 9 fact !y are emigrat+ to ,ellis ,isl&1 :i* is n a l& ( opportunity at all4 ,s !re cr[d on ,ellis ,isl& ! wret*$ p :om ,am]ica w n accept4 ,among ! figures 9 t "p ( ! h>b\r !re 0 "o t at once held my att5tion because %e 0 s mu* great] & nobl] ?an ! re/4 ,b %e 0 n all[$ on ! ma9l&4 ,go+ close to h] ,i saw t x 0 ,lib]ty h]self4 ,%e also 0 class$ z undesirable4 ,i w confess t ,i c\ld und]/& ! ,amazons ( ! ,mississippi fe>+ h]1 s great & /rong 0 %e1 & ( su* mighty reputation4 ,h] plight too 0 m wret*$ ?an t ( ! o!rs1 because !y all /ret*$ out _! h&s ) long+ to ! fur!r bank1 z ! poet has well sung1 b ) "s hope also t !re w\ld "o day be room = !m 9 ! quota4 ,b ,lib]ty _h no quota at all4' #8,:at is ?is quota8' ask$ ,lysis4 #8,! quota1 de> ,lysis1' ,i said1 #8is ano!r ( ! my/ic numb]s ( ! ,am]icans & "o t s]ves _! desires4 ,= by means ( v>y+ numb]s rea*$ 9 an obscure mann] !y control ! admission into _! c\ntry 9 su* a mann] t v few c come ( ^? :o w be likely to resi/ hav+ _! s\ls made = !m1 b a great] numb] ( ^? :o yield easily to ,am]icanization4 ,9 p>ticul>1 is x contriv$ t h>dly any ( ! ,m$it]ranean peoples %all be admitt$1 = ^! peoples are ! h>de/ ( all to ,am]icanize1 z !y h liv$ 9 civilization = s great a "t4' #8,i und]/&1' said ,lysis4 #8,b ! p :o are lea/ unwelcome to-day are ! p>tly civiliz$ peoples ( ,nor? ,europe & ! ,briti% ,isles4 ,= ^! p are n s wild z to be dang]\s & !y h liv$ 9 a h>d /ruggle ) nature :i* has made mat]ial prosp]ity seem to !m an extremely great ?+ & "o wor?y ( great ef=ts4 ,n[ mat]ial prosp]ity is :at ! ,am]icans (f]1 & x is ! inducem5t always held out :5 ^? :o make op9ion wi% to p]suade ! populace to any p>ticul> c\rse4' #8,b1' ask$ ,phaelon1 #8:y did y n tell ! undesirables :at y knew ab\t ,am]ica1 s t !y w\ld h be5 glad !y _h be5 %ut out8 ,x does n s\nd mu* fun be+ an ali5 9 ,am]ica to-day4' #8,x w\ld be griev\s inde$1' ,i said1 #8did n ! ali5s live toge!r 9 communities1 b s b&$ !y ma9ta9 _! own life & reproduce ,greece or ,italy beyond ! seas1 z is ! purpose ( a colony4 ,& x is a s\rce ( m]rim5t to ^! m5 to be told to ?9k ,am]ican ?\ghts1 z ! judges say :o make !m citiz5s4' #8,yes1' said ,aga?on1 #8b x is n m]rim5t = _! *ildr5 :o become ,am]icans4' #8,!y enjoy x1' ,i said1 #8= ! *ildr5 ( bad ,greeks make good ,am]icans4 ,& bad we mu/ consid] ! ,greeks to be :o leave ,greece & risk _! s\ls 9 ,am]ica = ! sake ( weal?4 ,su* folk d no?+ to lead ! ,am]icans to ,greek ?\ght4' #8,be+ su* lov]s ( pr(it1' said ,aga?on1 #8!y are timid & h little influ5ce4' #8,yes1' ,i said1 #8b com+ f civilization !y h *>act]s ( _! own1 & are ri*ly individual1 = t is ! m>k ( civilization1 b hav+ left ,greece = ga9 !y h no prop] s5se ( be+ memb]s ( a political community1 :ile ! ,am]icans are fill$ to excess ) t s5se4 ,b an ali5 *ild br\ght up 9 ,am]ica w (t5 be bo? an individual & a citiz54' ,lysis "h said3 #8,might n su* an ali5 *ild comb9e ! faults r ?an ! virtues ( bo? types8' #8,t happ5s1' ,i repli$1 #8& ,i h great fe>s = ,xantippe's *ildr5 if %e keeps !m !re to be ,am]icaniz$4' #8,i may be a blockhead1 ,socrates1' said ,lysis1 #8b ,i %\ld l to he> y expla9 mu* m fully ab\t ! /r5g? ( ! s\l :5 x is ,am]icaniz$4' #8,y are prep>$ to leave ! address to ! ,bus9ess ,m5's ,lun* ,club1 !n1' said ,aga?on1 #8& foll[ ,socrates on a new pa?8' #8,yes1' said ,lysis1 #8let u leave ! bus9ess m54 ,= my "p ,i feel fill$ ) pity = m5 lead+ su* a life4' #8,t is well said1 ,lysis1' ,i repli$1 #8= ,i1 too1 lov$ ^! m5 & _h pity = !m1 see+ !m to "w h>d] ?an ev] dur+ ! %ort h\r ( refre%m5t t _! code all[s !m f bus9ess4 ,i d n wond] t s _m ( !m drop dead1 & ,i (t5 ?\ght ( ! captives 9 ! galleys be+ spurr$ on to ex]tions unnatural to man4' #8,p]haps1' said ,aga?on ) a sly look at ! o!r two1 #8y\r /&>d ( ex]tion1 ,socrates1 is l[] ?an t ( mo/ m54' #8,i "k n h[ x is 9 y\r gov]nm5t (fice1 ,aga?on1' ,i repli$1 #8b ,i d n believe y w\ld long survive ! pace set 9 ,am]ica1 &1 inde$1 m & m ,am]icans !mselves are becom+ s5sible & ceas+ to ?9k a man admirable 9 proportion z he is always at 8 bus9ess4 ,!y h "s excell5t summ] clubs1 :]e !y je/ & play n = "o day only b = sev]al weeks4 ,b ,i 0 go+ to tell ,lysis t ,i c satisfy bo? 8 desire & y\rs1 = if y1 ,o ,aga?on1 w tell ! sub/ance ( my address to ^? m5 t w also reveal 9 :at !y are lack+1 accord+ to my op9ion1 & 9 :at !y are /rong4 ,= !y are lack+ 9 reasonabl5ess1 & !y are /rong 9 sociability4' #8,!n let me read ! report1' said ,aga?on1 & he read f ! ,hootsville ,c\ri] ! p>agraphs deal+ ) my address3 #88,! ,presid5t ( ! ,club introduc$ ! speak] z "o :o _h made good 9 8 own l9e1 & ?\gh x 0 n _! own l9e1 !y welcom$ success :]ev] !y saw x 7applause74 ,! visitor1 z he und]/ood x1 0 a speciali/ 9 tru? & goodness1 & w\ld no d\bt give ,hootsville "s useful tips4 ,if he1 ! speak]1 und]/ood _! visitor's vocation he 0 a p]son y w5t to consult if y became d\btful ab\t y\r religion or y\r politics & he w\ld make y m d\btful /ill 7laught]74 ,=tunately1 no "o 9 ,hootsville 0 tr\bl$ ) any d\bts1 & he mu/ say he c\ld n see h[ _! visitor w\ld fit into ! life !re4 ,/ill x 0 a big _w1 & !y c\ld n all live 9 ,i[a4 ,he confess$ t he _h n kn[n ab\t ! visitor till ! "q ( ?is address 0 br\ght up1 b s9ce !n _h look$ up 8 record &1 f ! reports ( ! debates t he _h se5 9 ! ,plato publications1 he _h no d\bt t _! visitor _h ! be/ ( 8 discussions back 9 ,a!ns & _h hit a home run e "t4 ,!y welcom$ him z a man :o _h won some?+1 ev5 if x 0 only an argum5t 7great applause74 ,t 0 :at appeal$ to him1 & he ?\ght to all ( !m1 = he did n claim to h read ! reports closely or to "k :at ! argum5ts _h be5 ab\t1 b he felt cle> _! visitor _h n come out second be/4 ,hootsville c\ld fairly claim to be li/5+ to ab\t ! be/ man 9 8 own l9e t old ,a!ns c\ld s5d !m1 & t w\ld help !m to see h[ ,hootsville & ,a!ns comp>$ ) "o ano!r 7applause74 ,he 0 rem9d$ ( a /ory ab\t a negro1 call$ ,ra/us44440 #8,well1' said ,aga?on1 #8he told a long /ory ab\t an ,e?iopian1 & sat d[n ) laught] & applause4' ,aga?on !n read3 #88,! visitor1 ,mr4 ,socrates ,s4 ,socrates1 0 und]/ood to say3 #8,m5 ( ,hootsville1 if y w be> ) a /upid & ignorant man 7laught]7 ,i w\ld l to correct :at ,i am falsely suppos$ to ?9k conc]n+ lib]ty4 ,i am n "o ( ^? :o ?9k t ! ideal /ate w grant an indiscrim9ate lib]ty4 ,= ! rul]s mu/ reg>d lib]ty ) caution4 ,= ,i d n compla9 t "h !re is au?ority & t lib]ty is re/rict$1 = t is necess>y1 b t ! au?ority is 9 ! h&s ( m5 9 no way wor?y to hold x & t ! re/rictions are n impos$ = "r objects b to a*ieve ! mi/ak5 notions ( ^? hold+ *ief influ5ce 9 ! l&4 ,i w\ld n "q y\r c>elessness ( lib]ty if y 7 re/ra9+ bad & selfi% m51 & ,i w\ld applaud y if ,i saw ! majority tak+ /eps aga9/ too mu* int]e/ 9 comm]ce4 ,= comm]ce c d no m ?an provide ! basis = ! good life1 b is treat$ "h z ?\gh x 7 ! good life itself4 ,inde$1 y put notices1 ,m5 ( ,hootsville1 9 y\r (fices to disc\rage ! conv]sation ( y\r fri5ds1 writ+ up3 #8,?is is our busy day1' & keep+ up ! notice = _m days 9 succession2 exhort+ also y\r fri5ds #8,come to ! po9t1 b don't camp on x1' & ^! ?+s h9d] a fri5d f op5+ 8 s\l4 ,= !re are _m po9ts ^u :i* x is excell5t to camp1 & *ief among !m ! nature ( ! good4 #88#8,i see ev]y:]e ar\nd me refre%+ signs ( a gr[+ int]e/ 9 ! ,greeks on ! "p ( ! ,am]icans4 ,y h tak5 an extreme int]e/ 9 ! ,olympic ,games4 ,y\r "y m5 love to b& !mselves into bro!rhoods & frat]nities nam$ aft] ! lett]s ( our ,greek alphabet1 :ile old] m5 b& !mselves toge!r 9 a ,klan ) a ,greek "n1 :5 !y w\ld re=m ! g5]al polity4 ,i v greatly hope1 ,m5 ( ,hootsville1 t x is n true1 z y\r critics allege1 t y are s c>eless & ignorant ( ,greek ?+s t to y any?+ ,greek is my/]i\s1 & t ^! associations desire only to sugge/ secrecy & bewild]m5t :5 !y "n !mselves ) ,greek names4 ,n[ we ,greeks rightly und]/& lib]ty1 = lib]ty is ( ! seas & ( ! m\nta9s1 & ,greece has bo? inde$ b ,i[a nei!r4 ,& y\r ne$ 9 ,i[a is = m ,greeks to tea* y 7vigor\s diss5t74 #88#8,m ,greeks to help y to discov] ju/ice & ! rule ( reason1 ,o m5 ( ,hootsville1 ab\t :i* y "k no?+ 7int]ruption74 ,= great ?+s are "h 9 issue1 ! greate/ ( ^? t are 9 our control4 ,mu* inde$ ( our human lot we _c control4 ,consid] h[ ! poets speak conc]n+ ! ,fates1 h[ ! ?ree si/]s sit1 ! "o ,clo?o sp9n+ ! /uff ( our human lives1 & ! next ,la*esis1 mix+ ! /r&s & measur+ (f ! l5g?s1 :ile ! la/1 ,atropos1 cuts !m ) h] dread$ %e>s4 ,m5 ( ,hootsville1 we mu/ all accept :at ! ,fates s5d u1 z !y sit et]nally weav+ _! v>i$ comb9ations4 ,if ,i may use y\r t]m1 y mu/ all d bus9ess ) ^! ?ree si/]s4 ,9 ! end y w f9d y _c /& out aga9/ !m4'0 ,b at t1' said ,aga?on1 #8!re 0 a great upro> & !y refus$ to li/5 any m1 ?\gh ,socrates _h by no means rea*$ ev5 ! middle ( 8 address1 & 0 b mak+ a prelim9>y di/9ction4 #8,no self-respect+ ,am]ican bus9ess citiz51 decl>$ ! ,presid5t1 r$ ) ang]1 w\ld h any?+ to d ) a conc]n s out ( date 9 factory me?ods z 7 ^! ?ree si/]s4 ,did _! visitor "k t !y 9 ,hootsville & ev]y:]e else 9 ! ,/ates1 _h ma*9es :i* spun1 measur$1 & cut ?read 9 ! s+le op]ation4 ,& "h !re 7 ?ree wom5 employ$ all ! "t on :at _! ,am]ican ma*9e c\ld d ) a hundr$? "p ( ! "t & ef=t4 ,to come to a g-ahead community ) su* a fool proposition 0 an insult4 ,hootsville did n fe> ! competition ( ^! ,fates4 ,hootsville _h be5 insult$ z ,*icago w\ld n h be51 j because ,hootsville _h n q ov]haul$ ,*icago yet 9 population4 ,b he c\ld tell _! visitor t t 0 com+1 & w\ld l to w>n him t if he w5t on travell+ on commission = ^! ,fates & _! und]we> g>m5ts he _h bett] quit adv]tis+ ! obsolete process or he'd be railroad$ out ( e dec5t t[n4 ,& x 0 "t = ev]yone to hurry back to bus9ess4' ,,book ,,iv ,aft] we _h discuss$ ^! clubs a little long]1 & ,i _h giv5 !m ! full spee* ,i w\ld h made 9 ,hootsville1 ,lysis said3 #8,& is x true1 ,socrates1 t ! lecture-t\r ( ,alcibiades also 0 n well receiv$8' #8,x is true1' ,i answ]$4 #8,yet is he n mo/ brilliant & accompli%$1 & are n 8 bra9s1 z he says1 fir/-class8' #8,assur$ly1' ,i answ]$4 #8,b 8 mann] 0 high-spirit$1 & he did n apply himself to w9 ! fav\r ( ! ,am]icans z ?\gh !y _h be5 ! populace ( ,a!ns4 ,he broke also1 & t 9 a mo/ %ameless mann]1 ! law :i* is ! de>e/ to !m ( all _! laws4 ,he violat$ ! ,vol/ead ,act4' ,at ?is ,aga?on lean$ =w>d & said3 #8,y mu/ bew>e1 ,o ,lysis & ,phaelon1 ( ! ,socratic irony1 :i* has be5 ! subject ( a great deal ( comm5t1 & ( :i* y are ! victims at ?is mom5t4 ,= x is well kn[n t ! ,vol/ead ,act is n de> to ! ,am]icans at all & t ,alcibiades did no?+ uncommon or sc&al\s 9 violat+ x4' #8,p]haps1' said ,phaelon1 #8we %\ld fir/ und]/& cle>ly :at ?is ,vol/ead ,act is4' #8,:y1' ,i said1 #8x is ! law by :i* ! ,am]icans impos$ ^u !mselves a mo/ heavy sacrifice1 & d5i$ !mselves 9 a l\d voice t great pleasure ( human life1 w9e4' #8,truly a heavy sacrifice1' exclaim$ bo? ,lysis & ,phaelon1 & ,lysis add$ ! obvi\s "q :e!r any reason c\ld be f\nd = su* amaz+ conduct1 = ! folly natural to b>b>ians seem$ :olly inadequate to acc\nt = x4 #8,x is inde$1' ,i answ]$1 #8a h>d knot t we h to untangle1 & "o t w puzzle future g5]ations4 ,_m & v>i\s are ! explanations put =w>d4 ,?us "s philosoph]s po9t out t ! sacrifice is be+ made 9 a "t ( great prosp]ity1 & believe t x is int5d$ to av]t ! jeal\sy ( ! gods4 ,& !re is mu* tru? 9 t4 ,= ! ,am]icans f\nd !mselves gr[n extremely ri*1 &1 believ+ no?+ to be s desirable z mat]ial prosp]ity1 !y fe>$ le/ ! :ole company ( ,olympus1 bo? gods & goddesses1 %\ld resolve to become ,am]ican citiz5s1 & %\ld a*ieve _! ends by cunn+ or magic1 despite ! immigration ,au?orities4 ,! ,am]icans did n at all desire _! company1 p>tly ?r\gh fe> ( ! int5sifi$ & unscrupul\s competition :i* x is ! wont ( ! gods to indulge 91 b *iefly because !y consid] t ! gods1 ) ! unc]ta9 exception ( ,zeus himself1 are n ( ,anglo-,saxon /ock4 ,to abate ! edge ( envy1 !y resolv$ to involve !mselves 9 calamity &1 by ins]t+ privation into _! ,con/itution1 to create su* a drawback to _! c\ntry t n ! div9ities only b ord9>y mortals also1 %\ld h no desire to %>e _! life4 ,y h he>d h[ ! maid5s ( ,leucris1 to protect _! hon\r1 slit (f _! noses & w5t undesir$ ( ! invad+ hordes4 ,s also ! ,am]icans deem$ x prud5t to %[ to ! _w a mutilat$ life4 ,!y also believ$ t _! own gods w\ld be t\*$ by ! sight ( su* suff]+ & w\ld augm5t ! numb] ( _! o!r possessions1 & !y 7 /r5g!n$ 9 ?is view :5 !y s5t to consult _! national oracle at ,detroit4 ,= ! oracle said3 ,9 drie/ l&1 ',nea? /eadie/ h&1 ,! iron /e$ ,w fa/e/ bre$4 :i* !y und]/ood to mean t if !y gave up all _! potations !re w\ld be m c>s4 ,& ?is 0 decisive1 = !y ?9k t ev]y?+1 ev5 life itself1 is wor?ily sacrific$ to increase ! numb] ( ^! c>s4 ,!y believ$ fur!rmore t ?is sacrifice w\ld increase ! quantity ( o!r ?+s at _! comm&4' #8,i h he>d a diff]5t reason1' "h put 9 ,aga?on1 & see+ u nod to him to g on1 he unfold$ :at foll[s3 #8,! ,am]icans1' he said #8are a %rewd p1 & "k t m5 easily become lov]s ( ease unless !re is necessity or "s great future delight to spur !m on to ex]tion4 ,h[1 !y ask$ !mselves1 c ! me*anics & o!r work]s be kept f ! desire = ease & ! ab&onm5t ( int5se daily toil4 ,= a long "t ! desire to possess a c> c\ld be tru/$ to spur !m on1 b c>s h gr[n *eap1 & x is f\nd beside t su* objects t5d by contra/ to make m5 love real ease m ?an ev] be=e4 ,:at 0 ne$$ 0 to re/ore ! "r conception ( weal? z some?+ ard5tly to be long$ =1 = inv5tion _h too greatly levell$ ! lives ( ri* & poor4 ,! poor man _h motion & music & pr9t & divorce & pat5t food & cremation1 & ev]y?+ t 0 once ! privilege ( ! ri*4 ,nature _h made m5 equal 9 ! *ief goods l heal? & affection1 ?us seem+ h]self to r5d] va9 ! end = :i*1 z !y ?\ght1 m5 _h be5 creat$1 ! production ( weal?4 ,& !y discov]$ t ! dev\t wor%ip ( ,progress1 ! v process ( creat+ weal?1 made ! prize ( private ga9 relatively less valuable1 ?us ?reat5+ ! spr+s ( en]gy itself4 ,z extreme weal? gave m5 ! pleasures ( successful propag&a s mu/ ord9>y weal? h "s special privilege atta*$4 ,& !re=e did _! *ief m5 resolve to prohibit by law "o ( life's greate/ am5ities1 = if a ?+ is =bidd5 by ! law1 only ! ri* w enjoy x4 ,= weal? ev]y:]e lifts a man above ! laws & n[h]e m ?an 9 ! ,unit$ ,/ates4' #8,is x p]haps possible1' ask$ ,phaelon1 #8t x 0 done f a noble desire to help ! ,europeans8' #8,h[1 de> ,phaelon8' ,i said4 #8,:y1' he said1 #8x is a great advantage to ! ,sp>tans to make _! ,helots drunk t ! "y ,sp>tans may h be=e !m ! spectacle ( drunk5ness & be w>n$ & seek temp]ance4 ,x is surely an equal advantage = ,europeans to h at h& a nation ( teetotall]s 7,i believe t is ! ^w = su* p7 le/ !y %\ld be tempt$ to err 9 ! opposite direction to ! ,sp>tans4 ,= ,i h read _m notices ab\t ! great *>ity ( ,am]ica t[>ds ,europe & ,i wond]$ if x 0 ?is self-d5ial ( :i* y speak4' #8,t is n badly conceiv$1 ,phaelon1' said ,i1 #8b ,i am afraid we _c take x z an explanation4 ,9 ! fir/ place ! nations ( ,europe d n at all ne$ to be w>n$1 by example or o!rwise aga9/ teetotalism1 &1 secondly1 ! ,am]icans are n at all a nation ( teetotall]s4' #8,y mean1' he said1 #8t ! ri* c dr9k & d4' #8,n ! ri* only1 b all :o w take a little tr\ble1' ,i answ]$4 #8,!n1' said he1 #8is x possible t ?is law has be5 impos$ n to make teetotall]s1 b = ! sake ( ! bribes ( ^? :o wi% to break x8' #8,n s1' ,i answ]$1 #8= x co/s ! ,am]icans a great deal ( money to make ?is *ange 9 ! way m5 dr9k4 ,!y employ _m m policem5 ?an be=e & if !re is a bribe x is ^! m5 :o keep x & n ! ,/ate1 & ?\gh ! ,/ate ga9s some?+ f ! f9es x imposes1 yet x loses a great deal m by n be+ able to tax w9e & ! o!r dr9ks4' ,h]eupon ,lysis exclaim$3 #8,!n :at is ! real reason = su* /range go+s on4 ,= my "p1 ,i believe !y prohibit dr9ks by law 9 ord] to give an add$ flav\r or ze/ to _! dr9k+4 ,= =bidd5 fruit is sweet to ta/e4' #8,= ! same reason1 9 fact1' said ,aga?on1 #8t !y mix diff]5t dr9ks toge!r1 to get m /imulus4 ,s t we may say t ,prohibition & cocktails spr+ f ! same s\rce4' #8,t explanation & ! o!rs1 my wor?y fri5ds1' ,i said1 #8may help u to und]/& :y s _m are resign$ to ! privation4 ,b v diff]5t is ! true cause :y !y h p\r$ out s va/ a libation to ,effici5cy4' #8,expla9 x1 !n1' said !y all4 #8,did we n agree e>li]1' ,i answ]$1 #8t 9 ,am]ica ! ,/ate does _m ?+s t are n = its own good1 & t are n done 9 ! int]e/s ( ! ,/ate itself1 b t ri* & en]getic m9orities c\ld use ! ma*9]y ( repres5tative gov]nm5t to make _! own w appe> z ! w ( ! ,/ate8' #8,inde$1 yes1' !y said4 #8,& truly1' said ,aga?on1 #8& :5 he said e>li] t ! comb9ation ( ! manufactur]s & ! prea*]s c\ld nev] be resi/$1 ,i ?\ght at once ( ?is ,prohibition4' #8,x seem$ to ! int]e/s ( ^? two classes & ! wom51' ,i said1 #8& !y br\ght x ab\t4 ,b su* m5 commonly _c judge :at is to _! own advantage4 ,= ! prea*]s are m5 :o h *os5 = !mselves ! task ( moral lead]%ip1 & h commonly great e>ne/ness & little else4 ,y "k1 ,lysis1 t ! prea*]s are ^? :o h sep>at$ !mselves f ! prie/s & ! old religi\s traditions8 ,inde$ x 0 l>gely by su* prea*]s & _! close foll[]s t ! fir/ colonies 7 f\nd$ 9 ,am]ica4' #8,! prie/s !mselves1' said ,lysis1 #8are surely n enemies to dr9k4' #8,by ,h]cules1 no1' ,i said4 #8,t means mu*1' said ,aga?on4 #8,! prie/s1' ,i cont9u$1 #8took to ,ari/otle g5]ations ago1 & h held by 8 tea*+s 9 a mo/ /rik+ mann]4 ,= ,ari/otle's m9d is mu* l a corkscrew1 be+ tortu\s b p[]ful1 & op5+ up wor?y ?+s = our satisfaction4 ,8 reputation has surpris$ me some:at1 see+ h[ (t5 he is wrong4 ,= he is 9 g5]al too easily satisfi$1 & ?9ks t because a ?+ exi/s x is !re=e ju/ifi$4 ,b :at he has writt5 ab\t pres]v+ ! mean ( temp]ance is excell5t1 & to t ! prie/s h adh]$4 ,! ,unit$ ,/ates1 h[ev]1 is a prea*]s' c\ntry4 ,n[ ! prea*]s are oppos$ by _! natures to ! humane & easy enjoym5t ( life & w\ld sacrifice temp]ance to avoid excess4 ,= !y rightly hold drunk5ness to be a degrad+ ?+1 b wrongly suppose ab/95ce to be sup]ior to mod]ation or temp]ance4 ,n[ :ile !y prea*$ aga9/ drunk5ness !y did no h>m1 b !y made 9 my op9ion a great mi/ake :5 !y /irr$ up ! wom5 to tamp] ) ! laws4' #8,is t :at !y did8' ask$ ,lysis4 #8,yes1' ,i said1 #8?\gh ! wom5 did n want mu* p]suad+1 = x seem$ obvi\s to !m t money sp5t by m5 9 obta9+ ! enjoym5t t fri5ds ga9 by dr9k+ toge!r 0 wa/$ money :ile ! same money sp5t 9 adorn+ ! wom5 !mselves or _! (fspr+ 0 money pr(itably sp5t4 ,= !y 7 eag] to believe su* ?+s4' ,a great look ( und]/&+ came into ! eyes ( bo? ,lysis & ,phaelon1 & ,lysis said3 #8,prohibition !n is 9 l>ge measure a "p ( t tyranny ( ! wom5 ( :i* y spoke a little :ile back8' #8,:y1 yes1' ,i repli$1 #8!y 7 /rong en\gh bo? by ! votes t !y enjoy$ 9 _m ,/ates & by _! asc5d5cy ov] _! m5 to pass ?is law4 ,= x 0 a /rong alliance4 ,! manufactur]s also _h great influ5ce ) ! m51 = !y kept repeat+ t all ! o!r trades w\ld %>e m money if ! w9e trade 0 =bidd5 by ! law1 & 9 ea* man ! trad+ "p ( ! s\l f\ght ) ! reasonable "p1 & ) _m ( ! ,am]icans x conqu]$4 ,& ea* man ?\ght t he c\ld himself evade ! law4' #8,did _m say t1 ,socrates8' ask$ ,lysis4 #8,no1' ,i answ]$2 #8!y use o!r words4 ,!y say t su* a law is a good ?+ = ! c\ntry1 by :i* !y mean t x is help+ _! bus9ess )\t *ang+ _! private habits4 ,:ile o!rs aga91 bo? m5 & wom51 are ( ! nobl] sort1 & w gladly make a p]sonal sacrifice1 9 ! belief t x w help ! poor4 ,!re are _m ri* wom5 :o reg>d ! poor z _! family1 & seek _! good z a "m seeks t ( h] *ildr54 ,su* are call$ ,social ,re=m]s4' #8,b are n ! poor gr[n up8' ask$ ,phaelon4 #8,( c\rse1' ,i answ]$2 #8b ! ri* h diff]5t ideas f !irs1 especially if ! poor are f s\? ,europe4 ,s ! ri* busy !mselves to *ange ! "* ( ! poor4 ,:5 !y are do+ t !y call !mselves by a high-s\nd+ title1 & say !y are ,practical ,ideali/s4' #8,i und]/&1' said ,lysis1 #8= ! ri* are ! manufactur]s1 or %>e ! outlook ( manufactur]s1 & :5 !y are consid]+ ! "* ( ! poor1 !y w id5tify be+ a good man ) be+ a good work]1 & w give no praise at all to su* a "o z y y\rself1 ,socrates1 =ev] sitt+ ab\t 9 ! public places & busy+ y\rself ) subjects ) :i* manufactur]s h no?+ to d4' #8,y h und]/ood p]fectly1 ,o excell5t ,lysis1' ,i exclaim$1 #8& y well describe :at happ5s 9 ,am]ica to-day1 & among o!r ?+s :y ! manufactur]s h aboli%$1 z f> z !y c\ld1 ! dr9k+ ( ! poor4 ,= x is p]haps bett] = a workman to be a teetotall] if y consid] him m]ely 9 8 function z a workman1 & z a ma*9e to be treat$ 9 a c]ta9 way1 b x is q a diff]5t /ory if y consid] him z a man4 ,= teetotalism makes a work] m a work] b a man less a man4 ,& drunk5ness makes him also less a man1 b in/ead ( becom+ m ( a workman he ceases to be a workman at all4' #8,b teetotalism1' said ,aga?on1 #8is ! m dang]\s extreme4 ,= only a v exceptional man c keep really drunk = long p]iods :]eas _m teetotall]s /ay teetotall]s = mon?s toge!r4' #8,_m mon?s1' ,i agre$4 #8,& ev5 ye>s 9 "s cases1 ,socrates1' he w5t on1 #8if :at ,i he> is true4' #8,:y1 yes1' ,i said1 #8,i'm afraid we _c d5y x3 !re are m5 9 ,kansas :o h repress$ _! ?ir/ = upw>ds ( =ty ye>s4' #8,surely1' said ,lysis1 #8we w\ld pay m to see !m exhibit$ "h ?an ! ,am]icans w\ld pay to see ! ,p>!non8 ,let u give ! ,p>!non to t ,am]ican :o approa*$ y ?is morn+1 ,aga?on1 & let u h "s ,kansans4' #8,yes1' ,i said1 #8su* a gr\p ( volunt>y ,tantaluses w\ld be a spectacle ( mu* int]e/ to ! "y1 :o are commonly ins5sible to ! griefs ( o!rs1 & :o w\ld n ?9k x base to let _! eyes h _! fill ( ! dreadful sight4 ,b ,i confess my he>t 0 t\*$1 = ! /ate ( ^! ,kansans is l t ( ! ponies t are kept 9 coal pits1 :o by long habituation to ! d>k become bl9d4 ,& to _! *ildr5 ^! p %[ imag9>y pictures ( ! inside ( ! human body & ! effects ( alcohol1 = s !y love to call all f]m5t$ bev]ages1 s t ^! *ildr5 %all believe !y are be+ sav$ f a mo/ t]rible dragon4 ,nor is x till !y visit ,europe t !y le>n t ! poison ( alcohol is n always fatal4' #8,x is a good ?+ = ! ,am]icans t s _m ( !m visit ,europe1' said ,lysis gravely4 #8,yes1' ,i said1 #8= ,i met a man 9 ,kansas :o _h nev] be5 out ( ,kansas & :o refus$ to believe t ,i 0 a human be+ at all4 ,= he said t ,sci5ce _h %[n t alcohol 0 a poison1 & z ! ,europeans 7 kn[n f hi/ory books to h made a habit ( consum+ l>ge quantities ( ?is poison1 x foll[$ t !y 7 all dead4 ,& he decl>$ t ! pres5t peoples 9 ,europe 7 no?+ b a race ( apes pret5d+ to be ! same creatures t ,sci5ce %[$ alcohol to h de/roy$4 ,he said ! apes 7 do+ x to w9 ! affection t ! ,am]icans w\ld %[ to o!r human be+s1 h[ev]1 degrad$1 b n to apes4' #8,truly a /rik+ view1' exclaim$ ,lysis4 #8,x 0 "o t expla9$ ev]y?+ to my fri5d1' ,i answ]$4 #8,he decl>$ ! pret5ce c\ld n la/1 & t ! apes _h accord+ly begun to spread a /ory r\nd t all m51 ev5 ! ,am]icans1 7 k9sfolk to ! apes4 ,b ) ?is1 he said1 he & all good hundr$ p] c5t ,am]icans w\ld h no?+ :atev] to d1 & he add$ !y 7 prep>$ if necess>y to disprove x by an am5dm5t to ! ,con/itution4 ,he claim$1 moreov]1 t ?is view ( 8 gave by f> ! be/ explanation ( ! *att]+ & qu>rell+ t 0 =ev] go+ on ov] 9 ,europe4 ,& he add$ t my appe>ance corroborat$ 8 !ory4' #8,well1 ,socrates1' said ,aga?on1 #8y mu/ all[ u to excuse him !re4' #8,s did ,i excuse him1' ,i answ]$1 #8= ,i knew t t man 0 intoxicat$1 n inde$ by w9e1 b by /ati/ics1 = ! ,am]icans f9d 9 /ati/ics a drug m p[]ful ?an alcohol1 ! wom5 %amelessly reveal+ _! crav+ & att5d+ lectures1 & cry+ out = facts1 b mean+ ^! numb]s4 ,= all l>ge numb]s & all numb]s arrang$ 9 patt]ns h a magical p[] ov] !m4 ,& !y w eag]ly d5y _! own p]sonal exp]i5ce if x seems to upset :at ! /ati/ics say4' #8,truly a pitiable s]vitude1' murmur$ ,lysis4 #8,pitiable inde$1' ,i agre$1 #8b !y we> ^! *a9s ( numb]s pr\dly1 = 9 g5]al ! numb]s are l>ge4 ,& !y h no notion t ^! numb]s mu/ be us$ ) c>e1 b w let !mselves be l$ into any error by any cunn+ pip] lur+ !m to de/ruction1 provid$ only t he c pipe ! prop] magic ciph]s & talk to !m ( p]c5tages4 ,= ^! /ati/icians h m p[] to make great cr[ds foll[ !m ?an ev] ,orpheus _h4 ,b ,i expect t 9 ! end !y w mo/ ( !m meet ) ! fate ( ,orpheus & be torn to pieces by angry wom51 fill$ ) a diff]5t k9d ( madness4' #8,well1' said ,aga?on1 #8!re is "o ?+ v hopeful = !m & ( excell5t augury4' #8,:i*8' ,i ask$4 #8,:y1' he said1 #8:5 !y consid] ! numb] ( _! crimes & h[ mu* blood is %$ & treasure seiz$ ea* ye>1 d y n ?9k !y w be greatly impress$ & w realize t _! *ief tr\ble is t ! laws are n kept & t ob$i5ce is n en=c$8' #8,i d1' ,i agre$4 #8,& are !y n an active p & "o ready to make exp]im5t1 ev5 to exp]im5t ) ,european usages8' #8,i believe s4' #8,well1' he said1 #8w !y n be =c$ to realize t !y 7 ! v la/ p 9 ! _w :o %\ld h attempt$ ,prohibition1 = !y _c ev5 protect human life well4 ,= if !y _h be5 a v poor p1 fight+ = a %>e 9 ! comm]ce ( nations1 & end[$ ) a tradition ( law obs]vance1 !n !y might h attempt$ ?is fur!r discipl9e4 ,b ! ,am]icans 7 n poor1 nor 7 !y desp]ately 9 ne$ ( su* effici5cy4 ,inde$ no p c\ld bett] af=d to dr9k4' #8,yes1' ,i said1 #8& _! laws 7 ! la/ laws t c\ld /& ! /ra94 ,= !y h nev] be5 well kept1 & !re has always be5 corruption4 ,s t !y did n d well :5 !y outlaw$ a p]man5t human appetite & made ano!r enemy to ! law4' #8,did y keep ! law y\rself1 ,socrates8' said ,lysis1 #8= y always say t ev5 a bad law %\ld be obey$ because x is ! law4' #8,:y1' ,i answ]$1 #8?9k+ z ,i d1 & be+ ! gue/ ( ! ,am]icans1 ,i w\ld take no /ep to avoid ! ab/95ce t ! law impos$4 ,yet ,i mu/ confess t !re 0 no city 9 :i* ,i w5t unrefre%$4' #8,a great ?+ is fri5d%ip1' exclaim$ ,lysis4 #8,yes1' ,i said1 #8my fri5ds & ho/s ev]y:]e insi/$1 n all ( !m ev]y:]e1 b "s 9 e place1 :o s\ght me out1 kn[+ t ,i 0 f ! ,m$it]ranean4' #8,& :5 ^! dr9ks 7 (f]$ to y1 ,socrates1' dem&$ ,lysis1 look+ me /raight 9 ! face & fix+ 8 eyes on m9e1 #8did y /ill tell !m t all laws %\ld be obey$ until !y c be alt]$8' #8,assur$ly4' #8,:at did !y answ]8' #8,t ,i 0 to dr9k my fill1 & n be at all uneasy le/ ,i 0 break+ any law1 because x 0 lawful to dr9k ! w9e t y possess$ 9 y\r cell> be=e ! law 0 made4 ,x seems x 0 always su* w9e t ,i 0 dr9k+4 ,nor did !y seem to fe> t !y w\ld ev] exhau/ ^? cell>s ( !irs4' #8,happy ,socrates1' !y said4 #8,!y urg$ moreov]1 :5 !y 7 n too busy to discuss ! po9t1 t a law among !m is n at all ! same z a law among ! ,a!nians4 ,!y said t p]haps 9 ,a!ns1 :i* 0 small1 ! p made ! law kn[+ :at !y did1 b t 9 ,am]ica ?\s&s & ?\s&s ( laws 7 made e ye>4 ,am]ica 0 equally ! p>adise ( h] :o w\ld make a law & him :o w\ld break "o1 & 9 proportion z ! exi/+ laws 7 n kept 0 !re a clam\r = fre% laws4 ,b !re is no s5se ( responsibility1 ei!r 9 ! mak+ or ! break+4 ,& we w\ld d well1 my wond]ful fri5ds1 to give ?is advice to ! ,am]icans t !y %\ld treat a law z a great luxury1 to be *]i%$ z ,hel5 h]self 0 *]i%$4 ,!n :5 !y f9d !y are obs]v+ all1 or "s "p at lea/1 ( ! laws !y h1 !y may rew>d !mselves by a new law4 ,d ^? :o juggle & balance plates seek to add ano!r plate to ! r[ /&+ edgeways on _! noses or =eheads be=e !y c balance ^? !y already h8' #8,inde$1 no1 ,socrates1' !y repli$4 #8,& if !y did1' ,i cont9u$1 #8w\ld !y n break all _! plates & n receive any plaudits f ! spectators8' #8,su*1' said ,lysis1 #8w\ld be _! des]v$ mis=tune4' #8,& %\ld we n call su* juggl]s presumptu\s fools & m5 unskill$ 9 _! art8' #8,:at else1 inde$1 ,o ,socrates8' #8,& yet is _! case any diff]5t f t ( ^! ,am]icans :o be=e !y c well keep t5 laws w make fifty m8 ,s t ! law ceases to hold au?ority among !m & !y are c>eless :o makes x & :o breaks x4 ,= !re c be no m griev\s ill done to any /ate ?an t its citiz5s %\ld n ?9k rightly ab\t ! laws1 & %\ld =get t a good law is ! expression ( ,ju/ice1 allott+ to ea* man :at is 81 & is des]v+ ( all rev]5ce1 :ile a bad law de/roys ! life ( ! /ate & ought by all means to be aboli%$ z soon z possible4' #8,we agree1' !y said4 ,,book ,v #8,does x n seem to y1 ,o ,lysis & ,phaelon1 t ^! ,am]icans suff] _m griev\s evils1 & d n "k :]e !y are1 & may truly be call$ ,atlantis1 ! ,lo/ ,cont95t8' #8,lo/1 inde$1 ,socrates1' answ]$ ,lysis1 #8& ,i pity !m1 ?\gh x is l>gely _! own fault4' #8,& d y n ?9k1' ,i ask$1 #8t education might help !m1 if x 7 begun :5 !y 7 q "y & kept up till ?irty-five8' #8,x w\ld be wor? try+1' !y said1 #8b n safe to /op at ?irty-five4' #8,y rememb]1' ,i cont9u$1 #8h[ 9 our ideal ,/ate we us$ to agree t !re mu/ be a gu>dian class *os5 f ^? ( ! be/ natures & tra9$ up to wat* ov] ! life ( ! /ate & to gov]n ! ord9>y citiz5s4' #8,yes1 ,socrates4' #8,b x seems pla9 t 9 ,am]ica ! duties ( ^! gu>dians1 su* z suppress+ & enc\rag+ op9ions & ! l1 h be5 usurp$ by manufactur]s & p ( t sort :o ought nev] to be giv5 any p[] at all4' #8,su* is ! unhappy tru? 9 ,am]ica4' #8,we mu/ !re=e educate a gu>dian class = ! ,am]icans :o %all drive ^! usurp]s f _! position ( influ5ce & lead ! ,am]icans t[>ds wisdom4' #8,we mu/4' #8,& %all we draw our gu>dians f m5 or f wom58' #8,z x is ,am]ica1 f wom51' sugge/$ ,phaelon4 #8,i agree1' ,i said1 #8we w make wom5 gu>dians1 = we are desp]ate & ! prov]b speaks truly3 ,desp]ate diseases ne$ desp]ate rem$ies4 ,& we w d s = sev]al reasons4 ,= 9 ! fir/ place su* an arrangem5t w seem natural to ! ,am]icans !mselves1 & ! poet has well writt53 ,nature is /rong4 #8,& secondly ! wom5 live long] & we %all be able to tra9 !m m ?or\ghly4 ,& ?irdly1 ! wom5 %[ "s int]e/ 9 philosophy1 :ile ! m5 are hopeless4 ,= ! wom5 ?9k !y "k some?+ :5 9 fact !y "k no?+1 b ! m5 are n ev5 aw>e t !re is any?+ to "k4 ,& f\r?ly ! wom5 are accu/om$ to leisure1 & d n fe> or despise x1 = ! m5 h pass$ x on to !m1 n kn[+ :at to d ) x !mselves4' #8,b !re is a bett] reason ?an any ( ^!1' said ,aga?on4 #8,:at is t8' ask$ ,lysis4 #8,:y1 t ! ,am]ican wom5 are exce$+ly agreeable :5 !y are "y4 ,or did y n ?9k s1 ,socrates8' #8,i did ?9k s1' ,i said1 #8& ?\gh ,i did n m5tion x1 ,i w confess x 0 ! *ief reason4 ,!y are n s attractive z our ,grecian y\?s1 inde$1 b !y are attractive all ! same4 ,= 9 ,am]ica ! individuals1 bo? y\?s & maid5s & wom51 b *iefly ! maid5s1 are full ( lovabl5ess & goodwill :5 !y are "y1 b are v quickly br\ght "u ! tyranny ( propag&a & betray$ by ri*es & ! s5se ( effici5cy into a false valu+ ( :at is to be aim$ at 9 liv+4' #8,beg9 quickly1' said ,aga?on1 #8& let u see y op5 ?is college = "y wom51 = ,i take x f :at y say y w\ld n wi% ,xantippe to control s important a matt]4' #8,by ! dog1 no1' ,i cri$4 #8,!n1' said ,aga?on1 #8let u f\nd our college4' #8,by all means1' ,i said1 #8b fir/ let u see :e!r any ( ! exi/+ univ]sities & colleges w be ( any use to u1 = !re are _m hundr$s ( !m4' #8,inde$1 ,socrates1' said ,lysis 9 surprise1 #8_m hundr$ colleges8 ,i %\ld n h suppos$ !re 7 any at all4' ,i _h be5 ( ?is op9ion1 & ,i said3 #8,i _h n suppos$ s ei!r1 = ,i ?\ght no educat$ p]son w\ld be will+ to li/5 to ,xantippe1 b ,i soon le>n$ ! answ] to my puzzle1 = no?+ is easi] 9 ,am]ica ?an to att5d college & no?+ h>d] ?an to get educat$4' #8,x seems c]ta9 t we %all h to *ange mu*1' said ,lysis4 #8,yes1' ,i answ]$1 #8= at pres5t !y educate ! m5 & ! wom5 toge!r ?\gh !y are go+ to d diff]5t "w aft]w>ds & s %\ld receive a diff]5t tra9+4' #8,yes1' !y said1 #8we mu/ alt] t1 & n educate any m ( ! m54' #8,t w g f> to solve "o ( our problems1 = at pres5t ! *ances ( education are de/roy$ by ! numb]s ( ! /ud5ts1 & ! ,am]icans ?9k x f9] to give a smatt]+ ( in=mation to ev]ybody ?an to give education to a few1 & talk ) pride ( ! prepo/]\s numb]s t pass ?r\gh _! colleges4' #8,if !re are s _m /ud5ts1 ,socrates1' ask$ ,phaelon1 #8is !re n a great body ( tea*]s8 ,:at "p d !y play 9 ,am]ica & c\ld n !y be ! gu>dians8' #8,:y1' ,i said1 #8( all :o suff] f ! pres5t ill-ord]$ life !re1 none suff] m ?an d ^! tea*]s4 ,b if y w be pati5t ) me ,i w describe h[ !y live4' #8,proce$1 ,socrates4' #8,to beg9 )1 does x n seem to y t ^? :o sep>ate !mselves s %>ply f ! popul> outlook & embrace ! pursuit ( le>n+ r ?an t ( weal? w be no ord9>y ,am]icans1 b w ei!r be above or bel[ _! fell[ citiz5s4' #8,x w\ld seem s1 inde$1' !y answ]$4 #8,! be/1' ,i said1 #8are mu* above _! fell[s & seek ?is life f a noble love ( noble ?+s4 ,d y "k :at happ5s to a great numb] ( su* m5 9 ,am]ica8' #8,:at8' !y ask$ ) appreh5sion4 #8,y d well to look fright5$1' ,i said gravely4 #8,!y are made ,presid5ts ( univ]sities & colleges1 & aft] t !re is no peace = !m at all4 ,b !y are compell$ to sp5d all _! "t l ! g5]als ( disord]ly & wor?less troops1 organiz+ ! great numb]s ( _! /ud5ts & provid+ useless c\rses = c\ntless blockheads4 ,moreov]1 !y are driv5 to associate ) ! m5 ( comm]ce & to flatt] !m = _! great weal?4' #8,:y 9 ! _w %\ld !y h to d t8' ,lysis dem&$4 #8,to make ! college bigg]1' ,i repli$4 #8,= ! ,am]icans e/imate a ,presid5t by 8 p[] to obta9 b5efactions & s to build new w+s & (fices1 & leave a l>g] in/itution ?an he f\nd4 ,!y are soon to build 9 ,am]ica ! talle/ univ]sity 9 ! _w4 ,& !re is a worse consequ5ce ev5 ?an ?is wa/e ( f9e m5 9 presid5tial duties4' #8,:at c be worse ?an t8' #8,:y1' ,i said1 #8) all ! colleges compet+ = ! gifts ( ri* m5 w n ^? colleges obta9 mo/ ^: tea*]s tea* :at ! ri* m5 l to h believ$8' #8,naturally4' #8,& :]e a college has mu* to hope f weal?y p]sons w x n hesitate to lose l>ge sums ( money r ?an disc\rage free inquiry into ev]y?+8' #8,i ?9k x w d m ?an hesitate1 x w sacrifice ! inquiries = ! gold4' #8,inde$1' ,i said1 #8x (t5 happ5s1 & ! tea*]s d n d>e to discuss freely ! mo/ important matt]s4 ,b !y are fe>ful ( ! op9ion ( ! prosp]\s & !y dread ! cr[d z no philosoph] ought to d4 ,!y are c>eful n to exam9e closely into ! deepe/ que/ions ( all t\*+ morality & ! nature ( ! gods4 ,!y are equally afraid ( ! "q h[ weal? %\ld be divid$ & h[ ! /ate %\ld behave to private ri*es4 ,s t 9 ! "o place :]e y might hope to see ! exi/+ sy/em exam9$ freely1 y d n f9d any su* free _s ( que/ion+1 b a n]v\s desire to give satisfaction to ! p[]ful elem5t ( society4' #8,ri* m5 c avail mu*1' said ,lysis1 #8?\gh !y be base1 me*anical fell[s4' #8,:y1' ,i repli$1 #8did ,i n say a mom5t ago t "s :o embrac$ academic life 7 above _! fell[s b o!rs inde$ b5ea?8' #8,yes1' !y said4 #8,& y did n und]/& me8' #8,no4' #8,:y1' ,i said1 #8,i meant t _m embrace tea*+ n f any high-m9d$ alo(ness to comm]ce or love ( k1 b because x is ! easie/ employm5t !y c f9d & !y %irk ! lab\r ( bus9ess life4 ,su* m5 are n really /ud5ts at all1 & sp5d _! lives repeat+ ov] & ov] ! small /ock ( in=mation !y ga!r$ 9 e>ly life4 ,^! inf]ior tea*]s live ! life ( donkeys or mules work+ a wat]-:eel1 tread+ = ev] r\nd & r\nd ! same n>r[ c\rse aft] !y h once le>n$ h[ ! r\t9e goes4' ,at :i* ,lysis exclaim$3 #8,truly a mis]able exi/5ce4' #8,wret*$1 inde$1' e*o$ ,aga?on1 #8& "o t does m h>m ?an good1 = ! majority ( _! /ud5ts despise !m1 rightly guess+ t !y w\ld be prosp]\s bus9ess m5 if !y knew h[ x 0 done1 & s ! ?+s ( ! m9d are br\ght into di%on\r4' #8,yes1' ,i said1 #8b we mu/ n blame ! tea*]s t !y avoid an unequal conte/4 ,= already !y h sacrific$ mu* to pursue _! call+4 ,moreov] a noble m9ority /rives z bravely z did ,leonidas & 8 ?ree hundr$ ,sp>tans1 pref]r+ all sacrifices be=e s]vitude to ! b>b>ian ho/s4 ,b ^! m5 w agree ) u4' #8,w mo/ ( ! tea*]s be ) u8' ask$ ,lysis4 #8,alas1' ,i said1 #8! mo/ "p ( ! tea*]s are n valiant4' #8,:at d !y fe>1' ask$ ,phaelon1 #8= !y "k t !y w nev] become at all l ,crsus4 ,x is n a happy ?+ to be l ,crsus4' #8,no1 ,phaelon1' ,i said4 #8,!y h no great ambition1 z x seems to me4 ,r are !y driv5 by fe>4 ,!y fe>1 ,phaelon1 :at ! ri* w d to !m4' #8,:at8' #8,!y might take away _! c>s4 ,= !y h b\ght c>s = :i* !y h n paid1 promis+ to d s by a life ( lab\r4 ,& ! ri* might take !m away4 ,!n1 inde$1 ! poor tea*]s w\ld h to become philosoph]s ( ! ,p]ipatetic ,s*ool4' #8,!y w\ld n love y1 ,socrates1' said ,lysis1 #8if !y he>d y speak unfeel+ly l t4' #8,z x is1' ,i answ]$1 #8!y d n love ! ,greeks1 & d n ?9k a k ( ,greece any?+ b a /range sup]fluity4 ,!y d n consid] x a necessity at all4' #8,!n we w n all[ su* p to tea* 9 our ideal ,am]ica1' exclaim$ ,lysis1 hotly4 #8,inde$ no1' ,i said1 #8= 9 our college we w h no necessity = a l>ge /aff1 & s we w n h any ( ^! %am tea*]s l[]+ ! dignity ( le>n+4' #8,t w be a great ga94' #8,!re are already "s small colleges 9 ,am]ica :i* c help u4' #8,h[ s8' #8,:y1 !y are colleges t delib]ately limit _! numb]s4 ,(t5 !y refuse to tra9 m ?an five hundr$ /ud5ts at a "t4' #8,five hundr$ /ud5ts6' e*o$ ,lysis#8y call t a small numb]4' #8,no1' ,i said1 #8b ! ,am]icans d1 & if y _h be5 among !m y w\ld realize t x is inde$ a h]oic sacrifice t !y make 9 oppos+ ! common t5d5cy & rema9+ small4' #8,& h[ are !y to help u8' #8,:y1 9 ! fir/ place we %all f9d1 ,i ?9k1 ! be/ mat]ial = our gu>dians among ! pupils !re1 & secondly we c use ^! colleges z nurs]ies & tra9+ gr\nds = assi/ants = our gu>dians4 ,or d y n ?9k !y w ne$ assi/ants 9 _! task ( giv+ a *ang$ outlook to ! ,am]icans8' #8,inde$1 yes1 ,socrates4' #8,& ano!r ?+ we w altoge!r *ange is ! great v>iety ( ! in/ruction4 ,= t ! ,am]icans h no idea ( ! purpose ( education is se5 9 ! way !y provide c\rses ( in/ruction 9 ev]y?+1 ev5 9 ! ?+s t w only fit a man = l[ & base employm5ts4 ,! /ud5t hurries f c\rse to c\rse & becomes acqua9t$ ) ! prelim9>ies ( _m /udies b is advanc$ 9 none4' #8,we w keep our gu>dians to a few /udies1' said ,lysis4 #8,yes1' ,i said1 #8& !y w h to be v diff]5t /udies4' #8,:at w be ! fir/ great *ange8' he ask$4 #8,:y1' ,i answ]$1 #8z x seems to me1 ! fir/ ?+ to de/roy is _! sup]/iti\s rev]5ce = :at !y call facts & _! contempt = ideas4 ,= !y w (t5 talk z if ideas 7 less real ?an facts1 in/ead ( m real4' #8,:at are ^! facts8' #8,!y may be any?+4 ,li/s ( names1 & long te*nical words are accept$ z facts4 ,! bigge/ fact is ! ,div9e ,fact1 ,progress1 :i* !y wor%ip4' #8,might n t be call$ an idea8' #8,y might say s1 ,lysis1' ,i answ]$1 #8b ,i w\ld advise y n to d s1 = ! ,am]icans de>ly love ,progress & w n tol]ate y\r insults4' #8,is n evolution ano!r fav\rite fact8' ask$ ,aga?on4 #8,:y1' ,i said1 #8"s *]i% x z mu* z ,progress1 ( :i* !y say t x is ! explanation4 ,b o!rs say t ,progress presides ov] ! ,am]icans by ! special wi% ( ! div9e p[]s1 z a rew>d = _! virtues4 ,& ^! say evolution is a lie4 ,b nei!r p>ty w be cont5t to say x is a !ory4' #8,& facts are :at !y tea* 9 _! colleges8' ask$ ,phaelon4 #8,yes1' ,i said1 #8= !y h he>d t k is p[]1 & !y desire p[]1 & !y ?9k t k consi/s ( in=mation4' #8,i h se5 !m myself1 ,socrates1' said ,aga?on1 #8runn+ ab\t z /ud5ts1 boa/+ ( ! numb] ( c\rses !y c\ld take & ( ! daily in=mation t !y c\ld ga!r into notebooks4' #8,yes1' ,i said1 #8!y are complac5t1 & are sure t :5 !y h in=mation !y w in/9ctively act wisely & well4 ,= we mu/ rememb] t 9 a democracy m5 love to ?9k !y !mselves are decid+ ! great que/ions ( life & ( ! ,/ate4 ,& 9 ,am]ica !y are v mu* on _! dignity 9 ?is1 be+ resolv$ to judge = !mselves f ! facts1 ( :i* !y love to speak1 & n to value ! op9ion ( ea* o!r4' #8,except ( exp]ts1 ,socrates1' said ,aga?on4 #8,inde$1 !y value exp]ts because exp]ts1 !y ?9k1 "k ! facts4 ,& s two rules are to be obs]v$ c>efully by all :o w\ld make ! ,am]icans ?9k "o ?+ r ?an ano!r4 ,fir/ y mu/ call y\rself an exp]t & second y mu/ call ev]y?+ y say ! facts4' #8,& !n all w g well ) y8' ask$ ,lysis4 #8,inde$1 yes1 = none ( !m "k any?+ ab\t ! matt]s 9 h& & s !y are prep>$ to he> t ! facts are any?+ 9 ! _w4' #8,well1 ,socrates1' said ,phaelon1 #8x s\nds to me a f9e pa/ime to g p]suad+ ^! great h]ds ( b>b>ians t ,p]sians are f9] p ?an ,greeks4' #8,yes1' ,i said1 #8!y c\ld easily be made to believe t or any o!r piece ( nons5se4' #8,w\ld x n be fun8' said ,phaelon eag]ly4 #8,i mu/ d x4 ,nor w ,i fe> ! p]ils ( ! c\ntry4 ,i w g boldly among !m z becomes a ,greek1 resi/+ _! hold-up m5 ) my sword & oppos+ _! c>s ) my %ield4' #8,y mu/ take c>e1' ,i said1 #8t !y d n fell y f beh9d ) a c>d-index4' #8,c>d-index8' said ,phaelon2 #8:at weapon is t8' #8,x is m ?an a weapon to ! ,am]icans1' ,i said3 #8x is ev]y?+4 ,x is ! symbol ( _! way ( life & !y int5d %ortly to put x on all _! co9s1 & /amps4 ,x is l a plank to a dr[n+ sailor1 = by its means !y survive 9 ! great heav+ oceans ( facts ) :i* !y w\ld o!rwise be ov]:elm$4 ,or y may ?9k ( !m z a nation ( ,ariadnes4' #8,t is c]ta9ly a m pleasant picture1' said ,aga?on1 #8& = my "p ,i w take c>e to ?9k ( !m l t4 ,= z ,ariadne _h a ?read :]eby h] lov] might f9d 8 way out ( ! ,labyr9?1 s h ! ,am]icans c>d-indexes to prev5t !mselves f gett+ :olly lo/ 9 ! mod]n _w4' ,at ?is ,phaelon exclaim$3 #8,i %\ld de>ly love to see :at 0 inside a c>d-index4' #8,t w\ld n be easy1' ,i answ]$4 #8,= !y are compil$ ) great solemnity & rev]5ce & are ! ne>e/ ?+s 9 ,am]ica to sacr$ objects4 ,! ritual ( compilation is ! *ief way ( practis+ effici5cy & s ( wor%ipp+ ,progress4' #8,b :at is on ! c>ds8' insi/$ ,lysis4 #8,! mo/ sacr$ ?+s ( allentranc+ /ati/ics & ,! ,facts1 & all ! ?+s t ,mod]n ,sci5ce tea*es4' #8,tell u1 ,socrates1 :o is ?is ,mod]n ,sci5ce8' #8,a div9e prie/ess1' ,i answ]$1 #8:o is invok$ 9 all difficulties1 ^: words are receiv$ ) great rev]5ce1 & t ?\gh h] oracles are m ?an usually incompreh5sible & fickle & h] words long & horrible4 ,b %e is de> to ! ,am]icans because %e speaks pr9cipally ab\t ma*9es1 & tells !m !re %all be m & m ( !m1 & an increas+ numb] ( p>ts 9 ea*4' #8,& does %e speak true ?+s8' dem&$ ,lysis4 #8,%e kn[s ab\t ma*9es & ! sub/ances ( ! e>?1 & s ! ,am]icans f9d h] 8practical10 a ^w ( supreme praise1 & 9 consequ5ce are =ev] seek+ to make h] speak on o!r matt]s :]e %e has no gift ( utt]ance4 ,!y seek enc\ragem5t 9 _! beliefs ab\t !mselves & insi/ ^u an answ] ab\t _! race till 9 self-def5ce %e takes refuge 9 gibb]i%4' #8,t is a disappo9tm5t to !m1' said ,lysis4 #8,9 no wise1' ,i answ]$1 #8= ea* c twi/ h] answ] to 8 desires4 ,& %e is surr\nd$ by p cry+ t !y h he>d h] voice & !y alone1 & us+ h] au?ority = _! own views4 ,x is f ?is babble ( tongues t ! facts = ! c>d-indexes are d]iv$4 ,b we w tra9 our gu>dians nev] to use su* ?+s & to consid] !m only fit = slaves4' #8,we w1' !y said4 #8,= _! /udies w n be ! acquisition ( in=mation1 :i* is a tra9+ 9 acquisitiv5ess & due to ! hung] ( _! s\ls = quantity4 ,!y acquire in=mation z a second be/ until !y c acquire weal?4 ,b our gu>dians w /udy ^? matt]s :i* satisfy ! reason & ^? :i* elevate ! s\l4 ,n[ ^! /udies are _m4' #8,y h describ$ su* /udies _m times1 ,socrates1' said !y all4 #8,& d y n agree8' #8,we agree1' said !y all aga94 #8,& %all we1' ,i ask$ !m next1 #8p]mit our gu>dians to live 9 si/]hoods & sororities z !y l to d to-day8' #8,d ! "y ,am]ican wom5 live mu* 9 si/]hoods8' ask$ ,phaelon1 #8= ,i h read ( si/]hoods & ( conv5ts1 & ! great pr9ciple ( ! life is to h no?+ :atev] to d ) m54' ,i reassur$ ,phaelon4 #8,an ,am]ican sorority is n at all l t4 ,b ,i ?9k we %all h to say t no m5 may g ne> ^! sororities :]e we are tra9+ our gu>dians1 at lea/ till our gu>dians h rea*$ ?irty-five4 ,= ! m5 are a great di/raction4' #8,yes1' said ,aga?on1 #8we don't want any "y ,am]ican m51 = !y are excell5t to c>ry out :at !y are told b !y w nev] make philosoph]s4 ,!y w correspond inde$ to t w>rior class :i* y provid$ = 9 y\r ideal /ate1 b !re w be ?is diff]5ce t !y w n (t5 be call$ ^u to fight & t _! *ief duties w be 9 ! ord9>y adm9i/ration1 arrang+ = food & o!r necessities1 & hold+ ! v>i\s positions 9 comm]ce4' #8,is comm]ce /ill to cont9ue8' said ,phaelon4 #8,we mu/ all[ x1' ,i said1 #8! ,am]icans be+ :at !y are1 b we w take c>e t x receives no p>ticul> hon\r4' #8,v well1' he said1 #8b h[ are we to keep ! wom5 f ! m58' #8,we mu/ br+ !m all to ,a!ns1' ,i said4 ,at ?is ,aga?on lean$ =w>d eag]ly & exclaim$3 #8,& x is agre$ t ,i am to select ! gu>dians1 & ,i w br+ !m to ,a!ns & w myself sup]9t5d _! tra9+4 ,& :5 we get a new g5]ation ,i w sup]9t5d ! lat] /ages ( _! tra9+1 f fifte5 to ?irty-five1 :ile y1 ,socrates1 :o are s pati5t & good ) ! "y %all take *>ge ( !m till !y are fifte54' #8,inde$1' ,i said4 #8,yes1' he said1 #8,i consid] t z settl$4' #8,b ,i am tr\bl$ ) a difficulty1' said ,lysis1 #8& "o :i* may put out all ,aga?on's f9e plans1 = ,i d n see h[ we c educate !m 9 ,a!ns4' #8,h[ n8' said ,aga?on angrily4 #8,:y1' said ,lysis1 #8if !y come "h !y w meet ! ,greek m5 & w see t !re are be+s mu* sup]ior to !mselves & lose _! belief 9 !mselves1 & fall into despair & p9e away4' #8,we w unb5d1' said ,aga?on4 #8,ev5 s1 my excell5t fri5d1' ,i said1 #8,i ?9k ,lysis speaks truly3 x w n be good = gu>dians to gr[ up among p s mu* sup]ior to !mselves4 ,= !y w h to rule a race ( untravell$ & completely self-confid5t p1 & !y w nev] d x if !y are d\btful ( !mselves4' #8,i c loos5 ! knot ( difficulty1' said ,aga?on3 #8,i w build my college a little way out ( ,a!ns1 & :5 y come to give !m y\r in/ructions y %all be conceal$ by a p>tition & ,i w say y are ! gods !mselves4 ,nay1 !re is a ma*9e call$ ! broadca/ 9 use 9 ,am]ica itself :i* enables m5 to practise useful deceptions ( t k9d4' #8,i ?9k n1 my fri5ds1' ,i said4 #8,!y h suff]$ already f be+ told t too abundantly1 & ,i ?9k x w be be/ to tell !m a my? :ile !y are 9 _! cradles1 say+ !y are ! *ildr5 ( ! p ( ,atlantis1 & ! si/]s 9 "s sort ( ! ,greeks4' #8,bett] say c\s9s1' correct$ ,aga?on4 #8,! c\s9s1 !n1 ( ! ,greeks4 ,& !n !y %all le>n ) ! pride ( our own y\? & maid5s bo? gymna/ic & music & all ! o!r /udies :i* we agre$ to be necess>y = our gu>dians4' ,"h ,lysis said3 #8,!re is /ill "o small matt] to be resolv$3 ,h[ are y go+ to get y\r gu>dians1 & ! fir/ supply ( "y girls to tra98 ,= _! m5 w n "p ) !m4' #8,t is easy1' ,i said1 #8z !y are ,am]icans1 & ! m5 d n control ! wom54' ,lysis look$ puzzl$3 #8,b surely ! mo!rs control ! daught]s1 at any rate :5 !y are v "y4' #8,:y1 no1' ,i said1 #8t r>ely happ5s ei!r4 ,we w invite su* ( ! "y girls z seem to u to be ! be/ end[$ by nature & to be likely to make good gu>dians & to be susceptible ( education1 no matt] :e!r !y be five or fifte51 & !y w come if we conv9ce !m1 :atev] ! p>5ts may ?9k4 ,= ,i assure y t _! p>5ts h no p[] ov] !m at all4' #8,really1 ,socrates1' said ,lysis1 #8,i _c believe t "s ( ^! great wom5 ( ! ,middle ,we/ d n rule _! *ildr5 by t]ror z well z _! husb&s4' #8,if we f9d t to be s1' ,i said1 #8& "s ( ! presid5ts ( ^! ,wom5's ,clubs are inde$ s ov]p[]+ t x may well prove to be ! case1 we c easily conv9ce ! p>5ts by a few /ati/ics4 ,we w tell !m t ! liv] corrodes & t metabolism is inhibit$ unless ! ye>s f fifte5 to ?irty-five are sp5t 9 ,a!ns4 ,& z t w be ,sci5ce t we are tell+ !m !y w s5d _! *ildr5 to ,a!ns4 ,= !y all hone/ly desire ! well-be+ ( _! *ildr51 ev5 ^? :o are p]man5t presid5ts ( _! clubs4' #8,we may take x1 !n1 ,o ,socrates1' said ,aga?on1 eag]ly1 #8t ! "y wom5 w be "h soon4' #8,& :5 !y are "h1' ,i said1 #8!y %all live 9 sororities z !y d to-day4 ,& ,i ?9k _! pres5t sororities are a =e%ad[+ ( _! life "h1 & t n[ !y d :at !y c1 b live 9 a d>k cave comp>$ ) ! bright sunlight ( _! com+ exi/5ce4 ,to-day !y "k little ,greek1 ?ree lett]s be+ ! g5]al /&>d1 b soon !y w speak & ?9k 9 ,greek all ! "t4' #8,& :5 we h educat$ !m1' ask$ ,lysis1 #8w x be a difficult matt] = !m to obta9 au?ority to rule 9 ,am]ica8' #8,well1' said ,aga?on1 #8x w be easy if !y h en\gh money4' #8,t w be easy1' ,i said1 #8= !y w be tra9$ to consid] x _! duty t ea* ( !m m>ries a millionaire4' #8,!y w f9d t easy1' said ,aga?on1 #8= ,i w be c>eful to in/ruct !m 9 ! arts ( c\rt%ip4' ,lysis !n ask$3 #8,b :5 !y h ^! funds at _! comm&1 :at w be ! quicke/ way = !m to p]suade ! ord9>y ,am]icans to accept _! rule8' #8,:y1' ,i said1 #8!y mu/ proclaim a ,philosophy ,week1 = ^! weeks are n exp5sive to buy & !y give y ! "r to worry p = sev5 days4' #8,& :at %all !y say8' ask$ ,phaelon4 #8,x w be simple en\gh1' ,i said4 #8,!y mu/ ann\nce a new way to national & individual prosp]ity4 ,= prosp]\s peoples are =ev] look+ = ways to prosp]ity4 ,& ! adjective new recomm5ds any?+4' #8,& !n1 ,socrates8' #8,& !n !y mu/ proclaim t ,philosophy is ! key to ,bigg] & ,bett] ,bus9ess1 & mu/ tell ! /ory ( ,?ales1 :o 0 a philosoph] & easily outwitt$ ! m5 ( comm]ce ( 8 day1 amass+ a =tune 9 olive presses4' #8,b ,?ales liv$ long ago4' #8,t mu/ be kept d>k1' ,i said2 #8b ! /ory w ?r[ a new light on philosophy & if ! propag&a is well done e progressive bus9ess h\se w add to its /aff a philosoph] f ,greece4 ,& our gu>dians mu/ g ab\t p]suad+ ! wom5 t !re w be no real progress till ,congressm5 are philosoph]s or philosoph]s ,congressm54' #8,:y yes1 ,socrates1' said ,aga?on1 #8y %all y\rself "q ! aspirants = ,congress & say :i* are truly philosoph]s & ! gu>dians w p]suade ! populace n to vote = any ( ! o!rs4 ,& y %all select tru/y ,greeks :o w h& ov] p[] to ! gu>dians4' #8,x w take ! =tunes ( _m husb&s1' ,i said1 #8b 9 ! end ! gu>dians w control ! c5tral gov]nm5t1 & !n !y c d :at !y l ) ! c\ntry1 & make brave *anges & sub/itute a noble rule = an ignoble "o4' #8,x is important to lose no "t1' said ,aga?on1 #89 br++ ! maid5s to ,a!ns4 ,= ! sake ( sav+ ! ,am]icans1' he add$4 ,,book ,,vi #8,& are y resolv$1 ,socrates1' said ,lysis1 #8n to give any sort ( education to ! ,am]ican m58' ,i ?\ght = a mom5t & !n said3 #8,!y are n comely l our ,greek y\?s & !y w\ld n be an ornam5t to ,a!ns4 ,i d n ?9k !y want any education4' #8,b1 ,socrates1' said ,lysis1 #8h[ are !y to sp5d _! "t :5 !y are "y8' #8,:y1' ,i said1 #8,i w\ld let !m g on wat*+ t football game ( !irs4' #8,:at is t8' #8,x is a mimic battle de> to all _! he>ts1 & ,i w\ld let !m wat* x all ! day1 & ,i w\ld n tr\ble _! m9ds at all4 ,= to wat* x w be ! "r education = !m4' #8,wat* x1 ,socrates8' dem&$ ,lysis4 #8,yes1 = x is play$ betwe5 coa*es or *ief m51 us+ "y m5 z pieces4' #8,expla9 x to u1' !y said4 #8,i w give y a f9e lecture ^u x1' ,i said2 #8& y w m>vel t ,i "k s mu*1 until ,i fir/ confess t ,i w5t mu* among ! "y ,am]icans 9 ! colleges f a desire to see into _! m9ds1 & :at ,i saw made x cle> to me t ,am]ica 0 rightly call$ ! l& ( 8great op5 spaces40 ,= !y spoke ( no?+ else at all b ?is football1 & c>s1 & to a less] ext5t1 ( ano!r =m ( conte/ call$ baseball4' #8,w\ld y let !m play baseball also8' ask$ ,lysis4 #8,if we d1' ,i repli$1 #8,i expect we %all h to be quick to save x4 ,= _m bus9ess m5 told me t ! manufactur]s w =bid x1 because x di/racts _! workm5 f _! factory tasks4 ,!y purpose to sub/itute univ]sal compulsory basket ball1 :i* w keep _! work]s fit b unexcit$4' #8,is n football 9 dang]8' said ,aga?on4 #8,x is mo/ completely a /ud5ts' spectacle1' ,i answ]$1 #8& ,i ?9k our gu>dians w be 9 "t to save x1 & ?us make _! rule delightful to ! "y m54' #8,expla9 ab\t ?is game1' said ,lysis1 #8& :y y w /ill all[ !m to wat* x4' ,!n ,i told !m ( ! field m>k$ out 9 l9es1 ! gridiron & ( ! teams ( sixty or sev5ty w>riors a side1 ( :om only elev5 might d battle at any "o "t4 ,i describ$ ! arm\r ( ^! w>riors1 & h[ !y 7 ! wide/ & weightie/ ( all ! "y ,am]icans1 fit foem5 = ,ajax or ,hector4 ,& ,i expla9$ ! discipl9e "u :i* !y liv$ & h[ ! comb9ations 7 work$ out by ! coa*es z a g5]al prep>es 8 campaign1 & h[ ! m5 le>nt ov] & ov] ! ciph] signs t told to ea* 8 "p 9 ! brief /ruggle4 ,& ,i told ( ! f9e tradition t made x disgraceful to flee f ! field or avoid ! ball1 ev5 = comm]cial b5efits1 & ,i told ( ! h]oes :o pref]r$ fi]ce hacks to ! displeasure ( _! coa* & dea? on ! field to 8 be+ dismiss$4 #8,x mu/ be good fun be+ a coa*1' said ,lysis4 #8,yes1' ,i said1 #8!y are held 9 great hon\r provid$ !y br+ victory4 ,!y d :at !y w ) ! m9ds & bodies ( ! /ud5ts1 & ! ,pr(essors are pr\d to c>ry wat] = !m4 ,(t5 ! *os5 /ud5ts are kept %ut up by _! coa*es be=e any great battle1 le/ _! m9ds %\ld be di/urb$4 ,t w be a good similitude = u to use :5 we are mov+ ! "y girls to ,a!ns4 ,= we des]ve z great privileges z games coa*es4' #8,b 9 ^! conte/s1' said ,lysis1 #8only a few c be us$4 ,:at is ! education ( ! va/ majority8' #8,!y *e] to ord]1' ,i repli$4 #8,= ! ,am]icans are a practical p & s*eme t no s+le brea? %all be wa/$1 b %all be us$ :]e x w be mo/ effective4 ,moreov] ! game is s design$ t ! bett] x is play$ ! m difficult is x = ! onlook] to foll[ ! =tunes ( ! ball1 ! play]s /ruggl+ 9 a great bun*1 pu%+ aga9/ "o ano!r4 ,!re mu/ be "s h]alds to tell ! cr[d :i* play] has be5 pu%+ h>de/ t he may be rew>d$ ) a l\d %\t4' #8,b is %\t+ l t really ! be/ education8' ask$ ,lysis1 #8= y w h to say a lot m to conv9ce me4' #8,h y n (t5 agre$ ) me1 ,lysis1 t x is 9 y\? "o le>ns mo/ easily8' #8,i agree4' #8,& t x is good to ma/] e>ly ^? activities :i* are to fill our aft]-lives8' #8,v (t5 x is good4' #8,& if y _h to describe 9 "o s5t5ce ! civic life ( an ,am]ican c\ld y d x bett] ?an by say+ he sp5t 8 life %\t+ 9 *orus praise or blame ab\t ?+s he did n und]/& at ! bidd+ ( lead]s8' #8,x is true4' #8,!n1 c he beg9 too e>ly to %\t ) ! cr[d8' #8,he _c4' #8,= if he is by nature incapable ( philosophy he mu/ be l$1 & he mu/ be br\ght up to expect to feel to ord] )\t ask+ :at x is ab\t :i* he is to be en?usia/ic1 & )\t expect+ to und]/& ! details ( ! /ruggles 8 lead]s are conduct+4' #8,i agree4' #8,& = t !re is no?+ bett] !n ^! football games4 ,= m5 :o obey coa*es & *e] lead]s n[ w be ready to obey our gu>dians lat] on4' #8,i ?9k s4' #8,& !y enjoy ?is football ( !irs a great deal m ?an !y enjoy ! lectures & o!r p>ts ( college life1 s t !y w agree v happily to *e] football all ! "t4' #8,b1' said ,aga?on1 #8,i he> ! fri5ds ( peace are resolv$ to prohibit ! football game1 because x ar\ses admiration = m>tial qualities4' #8,! fri5ds ( peace w fail1 my fri5ds1' ,i said4 #8,= fre$om f =eign w>s reigns among ! ,am]icans f _! position r ?an _! disposition4 ,! only p :o h ev] invad$ !m are ! ,engli%4 ,b n[ x is ! o!r way ab\t4' #8,i believe1' said ,aga?on1 #8t to-day ! ,engli% & ! ,am]icans are v well dispos$ t[>d "o ano!r4' #8,!y are1' ,i answ]$4 #8,_! fri5d%ip is mu* ! *ief fri5d%ip among b>b>ian peoples4 ,= ! ,engli% reg>d ! ,am]icans z _! c\ntry c\s9s1 liv+ 9 ! backwat] ( ! ,new ,_w & out ( t\* ) ,london life1 b pleas$ to come & gape4 ,& !y consid] !m z c\ntry c\s9s ) a v ri* f>m1 f :i* !y & _! neighb\rs (t5 receive eggs1 & !y are c>eful to keep z fri5dly z !y c4 ,= !y imag9e ! ,am]icans to be mu* l !mselves1 b )\t _! advantages4' #8,by advantages d !y mean ! ne>ness to ,a!ns8' said ,phaelon4 #8,yes1' ,i said sl[ly3 #8,if y se>* ! matt] to ! bottom x comes to t1 = ! ,engli% are ! l9k betwe5 ,a!ns & ,am]ica4' ,!n ,phaelon said3 #8,is x true1 ,socrates1 t ! ,engli% & ! ,am]icans speak ! same language8' #8,no4' #8,b1' w5t on ,phaelon1 puzzl$1 #8!y und]/& ea* o!r aft] a fa%ion1 d !y n8 ,d !y use _! h&s to speak )8' #8,only 9 ,new ,york4' #8,socrates speaks truly1' said ,aga?on1 #8b ,new ,york is :]e ! ,engli%m5 g :o visit ,am]ica4 ,!y /ay 9 or ne> ,new ,york4 ,= !y d n l to get f> f ! sea :i* is ! s\rce ( _! /r5g?4 ,!y love ! deep wat]s4' #8,yes1' ,i said4 #8,& ! /rong wat]s1 too1 ,socrates1' add$ ,aga?on1 #8& t is ano!r reason :y !y l ,new ,york & are reluctant to g f> inl&4 ,= !y dread hav+ to keep up long l9es ( communication4' #8,well1' ,i said1 #8!y w\ld be v safe 9 ,k5tucky4' #8,& :at happ5s :5 ! ,engli%m5 visit ,am]ica8' dem&$ ,lysis4 #8,:y1' ,i answ]$1 #8!y are surpris$ x is n m l ,engl&1 & at once compla92 & _m are (f5d$ t ! ,am]icans are n m l ! ,engli%1 & say s1 = !y are subject$ to torture to make !m say :at !y ?9k4' #8,:at is ! torture8' cri$ ,phaelon4 #8,!y call x ! ,?ird ,degree1 & x consi/s 9 endless int]rogation4' #8,c\ld y n get su* a po/ z tortur] 9 ,am]ica1 ,socrates8' ask$ ,lysis4 #8,!re 0 talk ( x1' ,i said1 smil+ at him1 #8b ,i ca/ ! proposal f me z cruel4 ,anyway ! ,am]icans "q _! visitors day & night1 say+3 8,:at d y ?9k ( u80 till 9 ! end ! visitors confess4' #8,& !n !re is a w>8' ask$ ,phaelon4 #8,no1' ,i said1 #8!y j /op ! m\?s ( su* visitors ) pie4' #8,rememb]1' ,i resum$1 #8t to visit ,am]ica is ! mo/ exp5sive ?+ an ,engli%man c d1 & s x is only ri* & leisur$ ,engli%m5 :o travel !re4 ,& ^! m5 d n admire comm]ce1 = ?\gh _! fa!rs or p]haps !mselves h gr[n ri* by x1 yet x has always be5 rat$ at its prop] value 9 ,engl&4 ,x has always be5 ! means to ! leisur$ life4 ,fur!rmore ! ,engli%man is n impress$ by ! v ?+s t ! ,am]ican ?9ks w impress him4 ,= ! ,engli% d n admire size or rev]5ce bigness4 ,!y 7 n us$ to admire ! ,spani>ds or ! ,fr5* or ! ,g]mans 9 ! pa/ = be+ twice z _m z !y1 & = hav+ spl5did c\rts & great armies & public works4 ,nor is !re any sight 9 ,engl& m comical ?an to behold ! ri* & vulg> cosmopolitans1 :o h b\ght a %>e 9 _! gov]nm5t1 attempt+ to ar\se an audi5ce ( ,engli%m5 to en?usiasm = _! own ,briti% ,empire j because x is s v big4 ,b ! ,am]icans w po9t to a cr[d ( (fices or c>s & feel happy 9 ! k t _! c\ntry is %\t+ = itself4 ,n[ ! ,engli% discov] 9 ! ,am]icans mo/ excell5t ho/s1 = !y are ! mo/ g5]\s ( all ! b>b>ians1 b ! m grateful ! ,engli% are1 ! m criticisms d !y express1 f9d+ x intol]able t ! ho/s !y l s mu* %\ld g on p\r+ out admiration on useless ?+s & pro/rat+ ! s\l be=e numb] & quantity4' #8,& :at happ5s :5 ! ,am]icans come to ,engl&8' ask$ ,phaelon4 #8,t happ5s a great deal m (t54 ,! ,engli% enjoy t4 ,!y feel v sup]ior :5 !y %[ to ! ,am]icans ! ca!drals & ca/les ( _! c\ntry4 ,!y act z if !y _h built ^! ?+s !mselves1 :]eas1 9 fact1 ! dead :o built !m 7 z mu* ! ance/ors ( ! ,am]icans z ( ! ,engli%4 ,b ! ,engli% are ! eld] bran* t has inh]it$ ! place4 ,! build+s ! mod]n ,engli% !mselves put up !y d n po9t out ) pride to anybody1 & ^? t _! fa!rs & gr&fa!rs built !y cov] ov]1 :5 !y c1 ) great clo?s4 ,b _m ,am]icans are =ev] w&]+ to ^! new build+s & are fill$ ) joy t !y build su* places l>g] & bett]4 ,= ! pleasure ( travell+ 9 ,europe is spoilt = !m by ! ?\ght t _! ho/s d n "k :at a wond]ful place ,am]ica is1 & !y are =ev] br++ x into ! conv]sation4 ,!n !y gr[ happy aga91 b _! ho/s less happy4' #8,b x is ! old ?+s t !y ?9k !y want to see1' said ,aga?on4 #8,yes1' ,i said1 #8!y want to see ,europe because !y !mselves came f x orig9ally4' #8,!y d n g to ,mesopotamia1' said ,aga?on1 #8?\gh !y believe !y came orig9ally f some:]e !re4' #8,x is curi\s1' ,i said1 #8b none ( !m boa/ ( belong+ to "o ( ! fir/ families ( ,mesopotamia4 ,!y want di/9ctions t are r>] ?an t4 ,!y get m pleasure f ?9k+ _! ance/ors _h seats 9 ! ,mayfl[] ?an f ?9k+ !y _h seats 9 ! ,ark1 ?\gh bo? voyages 7 :at !y call exclusive cruises4' #8,& h !y a special affection = ! isl& ( ,engl&8' ask$ ,lysis4 #8,:y yes1 mo/ ( ! ri* ones came orig9ally f !re1' ,i said4 #8,well1 :y d !y n buy x8' he dem&$4 #8,_m ?9k t w happ5 9 "t1' ,i repli$1 #8or at lea/ t !y w pur*ase all ! surface to a dep? ( =ty feet1 = t is ! e>? ^u :i* ,engli% hi/ory has happ5$1 & t !y w lay out ! isl& 9 _! we/]n di/ricts by ,yell[/one ,p>k1 :]e !re is pl5ty ( room = x4' #8,is x true' ask$ ,phaelon1 #8t ! ,engli% w be =c$ to sell1 ,socrates1 & t !y c only live at all by gett+ ! ,am]icans to come & look at _! c\ntry8' #8,i ?\ght1' said ,aga?on1 #8! ,engli% _h a great _m factories l ! ,am]icans4' #8,:y1' ,i repli$1 #8:at has happ5$ to ! ,engli% is "o ( ! mo/ ironical ?+s 9 ! _w4 ,= dur+ _m ye>s !y h sacrific$ _! old & pleasant life to atta9 me*anical effici5cy1 & !y h made ! nor!rn half ( _! little isl& dre>y ) factories & blott$ out its sky ) smoke4 ,!y said3 ,"h are our ri*es1 & 9 ! "n ( weal? we mu/ desecrate ! l&4 ,b d y1 ,o ,lysis & ,phaelon1 obs]ve ! ju/ice ( :at is happ5+ to !m4 ,_! factories h gr[n a burd5 to !m1 & a problem & s\rce ( qu>rels & pov]ty4 ,& _! real weal? lies 9 :at is /ill pres]v$ ( ! old ,engl&4' #8,:y1 ,socrates8' #8,because ! ,am]icans w pay to see x & w n pay to see ! factories4' #8,is _! position s desp]ate8' #8,no' ,i said1 #8if we are seek+ ! tru? we mu/ decl>e t x is n s desp]ate z ! ,am]icans imag9e = ! ,am]icans =get t ! ,engli% are 9 p>tn]%ip ) ! ,scot*4' #8,:o are ! ,scot*8' ask$ ,phaelon4 #8,i %\ld call !m ! gu>dian class 9 ,brita91' said ,aga?on4 #8,yes1' ,i said1 #8!y wat* ov] ! ,engli% & !y h a great empire all ov] ! _w4' #8,& ! ,engli% are all[$ to %>e 9 ?is ,empire8' #8,yes1' ,i said1 #8by ! t]ms ( ! p>tn]%ip :i* 0 by f> ! mo/ important ev5t 9 ! economic hi/ory ( ! ,engli%4 ,= ?is ,empire is v l>ge & ri*4' #8,& did ! ,scot*m5 w9 x by ! sword8' 0 ,phaelon's next "q4 #8,inde$ no1' ,i repli$4 #8,9 fact ,engli%m5 & ,iri%m5y h he>d ( !m8' 7,bo? ,lysis & ,phaelon nodd$ vigor\sly & ,lysis said #8,( c\rse1' 9 su* a tone t ,i felt a%am$ ( ! fooli% qu]y47 #8,engli%m5 & ,iri%m51' ,i w5t on1 #87 r m prom95t 9 ^? fir/ /ages4 ,b x 0 ! ,scot*m5 :o made ! ,empire pay4' #8,& aft] all1' said ,aga?on1 #8t 0 ! real po9t 9 hav+ an ,empire4' #8,& !y built up a great trade ) ev]ybody & prosp]$ greatly1' ,i said1 #8! ,scot* & ! nor!rn ,engli% p>ticul>ly4 ,& ^! two toge!r1 :5 !y g abroad to ga9 money1 call !mselves ! ,briti%4 ,b !y make ! mi/ake ( ?9k+ _! activities w g on be+ pr(itable = ev]4 ,!y ?9k t because all ! _w1 ev5 ,greece1 has b\ght f !m 9 ! c5tury pa/1 ! relation%ip w cont9ue4 ,b ,i believe o!rwise1 & t ?is =eign trade w be _! de/ruction1 & t !y are sell+ ! swords :i* w pi]ce _! own bodies4' #8,h[1 ,socrates8' #8,:y1' ,i said1 #8:oev] deals ) !m f9ds t !y h no?+ to give ( ! am5ities ( liv+4 ,!y d n sell y m>bles1 or /atues1 or w9e1 b coal & ma*9]y4 ,& if y buy ^! ?+s y f9d !y />t indu/ry 9 y\r own c\ntry also4 ,= ( all newcom]s to a c\ntry ma*9]y is ! mo/ t5aci\s ( its own "* & ! mo/ c]ta9 to make its new home resemble its old "o4 ,an ,italian w make ,italy aga9 9 ,new ,york1 & a ma*9e w make ,%effield 9 ! fur!/ ,indies4' #8,& is t really all ! ,briti% (f] ! _w8' exclaim$ ,lysis4 #8,!y w n la/ long accord+ to my op9ion4' #8,no1' ,i said1 #8= x w be realiz$ t ^! iron ma*9es ( !irs are a m deadly ?reat to ! life ( a city ?an 0 ! ,wood5 ,horse himself4' #8,by ,h]cules1 yes6' !y agre$4 #8,if ! ,briti% _h desir$ :olly to de/roy & *ange ,troy !y w\ld n h come ) besieg+ armies4 ,!y w\ld h s5t "s ma*9]y & divid$ ! ri* aga9/ ! poor by hold+ out promises ( all ! ma*9es w\ld d to make life pleasant] = ! ri*4 ,& 9 few] ye>s ?an t51 ! walls ( ,troy w\ld h disappe>$4 ,! city w\ld h vani%$ z ?\gh x _h gone up 9 v5geful smoke4 ,inde$ x w\ld cont9ue smok+ n = a few days1 9 ! mann] ( ,greek de/ruction1 b indef9itely1 ) *imneys to insult & dw>f ! l(ty t[]s ( ,ilium1 if ?is indu/rial sy/em ( !irs did n make *imneys ( ! v t[]s !mselves4' #8,! ,briti%1 z x seems to me1 are mo/ dang]\s1' said ,lysis4 #8,b1' said ,aga?on1 #8!y also (f] ! _w o!r ?+s beside ma*9]y & ! coal to fe$ x )4 ,wool4' #8,! %eep's clo?+ ( ! fable1' ,i said1 #8& a sn>e & "o 9 :i* y soon discov] ! wolf1 z _m a simple b>b>ian race has f\nd4 ,buy f !m "o commodity only & y f9d t !y use ! money y pay !m 9 a v al>m+ way4 ,!y use x to develop y\r c\ntry4' #8,h[8' ask$ ,phaelon4 #8,:y1' ,i said1 #8!y make y sp5d ! money y owe !m 9 putt+ y\rself 9 a position to supply o!rs ) "s commodity or o!r1 s t y c buy m & m f ! ,briti%4 ,9 ?is mann] !y h *ang$ ! face ( half ! _w4 ,^? :o buy little f !m !y t]m 8backw>d peoples40' #8,i am sorry = ! b>b>ian _w1' said ,lysis1 #8) ^! two great b>b>ian races1 ! ,briti% & ! ,am]ican1 invad+ ! re/ 9 ?is cunn+ way & weav+ sn>es ab\t !m4' #8,lysis1' ,i said1 #8:ile y feel s full ( pity1 pity also ! ,briti%4 ,= ,i said t :at !y d !y c only d = a c]ta9 "t4' #8,h[8' #8,:y1' ,i expla9$1 #8_! prosp]ity dep5ds ^u be+ able to p]suade o!r peoples to buy ^! goods ( !irs4' #8,yes4' #8,b ^? :o agree eag]ly & buy ma*9es & make railways become1 9 proportion z !y are eag] & active1 indep5d5t ( ! ,briti% & manufacture ev]y?+ = !mselves1 z happ5s 9 _! own colonies1 :ile ! o!rs1 n %>+ ^! ideals1 neglect ! ma*9es & rema9 poor & c nei!r pay = :at !y h _h nor buy any?+ fre%4 ,aga9/ ?is second class1 :o are f\nd l>gely 9 ! o!r or s\!rn ,am]icas1 ! ,briti% m]*ants h a /rong prejudice4' ,aft] pond]+ = a mom5t1 ,lysis said3 #8,x seems to me ! ,scot* mu/ be v l ! ,am]icans4' #8,yes1' ,i said1 #8b :5 ! ,scot* fir/ set out to gr[ ri* & important !y _h !mselves to please a gu>dian class t valu$ le>n+1 & s !y le>nt to value x too4 ,:]eas !re 0 no class t ! ,am]icans _h to please4 ,b1 9 g5]al1 !re is mu* 9 common betwe5 ! ,am]icans & ! comm]cial p ( ,scotl&1 & ^? also ( ! ,nor? ( ,engl&1 :o agree ) ! ,scot* ab\t life4 ,( !m we may say ) ! poet3 8,nurs$ 9 s h>% a clime :at %\ld/ ?\ "k ( good80 #8,& ^! make ! settl]s ! mo/ acceptable to ! ,am]icans4' #8,:y d !y n all g !re1' said ,phaelon2 #8,i d n l to ?9k ( !m s ne> ,greece4' #8,! m5 ( ,s\? ,engl&1 on ! o!r h&1 f9d x v useful to h ^! ,scots & nor!rn]s 9 ! same isl&4' #8,:y8' #8,well1' ,i said1 #8! s\!rn ,engli% live a life t is almo/ reasonable1 inquir+ into ?+s1 & pond]+ ^u !m1 & amus+ !mselves ) games1 &1 :5ev] possible1 sitt+ 9 ! sun4 ,^? m5 :o are bo? ri* & s5sible settle 9 ,s\? ,engl&4' #8,is _! pond]+ good pond]+8' dem&$ ,lysis4 #8,:y no1' ,i said1 #8= !y l to beg9 & end 9 ! middle ( all que/ions4 ,x is difficult to muddle ?r\gh 9 philosophy4' #8,h[ d !y live1 ap>t f :at !y get f ! ,am]icans8' ask$ ,phaelon4 #8,"s make ^! nor!rn]s pay !m r5ts b a l>ge "p are conc]n$ "o way or ano!r1 ,i am afraid1 9 ! bus9ess ( _! great city ( ,london4' #8,:at is t8' #8,x is do+ ! bus9ess ( o!r p = !m1 because x w be done bett] ?an !y c\ld d x !mselves4 ,ev5 ! ,a!nians use ! city ( ,london4' #8,:at is ! secret ( ?is ,london bus9ess8' ask$ ,phaelon4 #8,!re is a special climate 9 ,london1' ,i answ]$1 #8:i* has ! prop]ty ( mak+ e man feel t he is ru9$4 ,& no "o is ev] di/ract$ f m9d+ 8 affairs by behold+ ! sun or ! sky1 ^: contemplation has ev] l$ m5 to philosophy4 ,s !y d bus9ess !re 9 a v c>eful & conc5trat$ way4' #8,b y say1' said ,lysis1 #8t !y d n come l ! ,am]icans to consid] comm]ce ! end ( life8' #8,no1' ,i said1 #8= ! ,am]icans d _! bus9ess :]e ! climate makes !m ov]-sangu9e & !y become fill$ up ) ! hope ( ga9 & *e]fully sacrifice ev]y?+ else to ! excitem5t ( ! conte/4 ,b ! ,london]s reg>d _! bus9ess h\rs z ! scrap+ ( a subsi/5ce & skilful avoidance ( />vation1 & flee f ! city e ev5+4 ,& !y live 9 homes surr\nd$ by o!r influ5ces ?an t ( comm]ce1 & by ! m>ks ( ! p>tial civilization to :i* ,s\? ,engl& has atta9$4 ,b :5 !y are at bus9ess !y d ab\t z mu* mis*ief to ! re/ ( ! _w z d ! ,am]icans4' #8,ought we n to hope1' said ,lysis ?\ghtfully1 #8t ! football game w 9 fact make ! ,am]icans v w>like1 & t !y w attack ! ,engli% & ,scot*8' #8,:y1 ,lysis8' #8,t ! great b>b>ian peoples may de/roy ea* o!r & t ! re/ ( ! _w may be fre$ f ! aggression ( _! indu/rial life4' #8,yes1' ,i said1 #8x might well be ! be/ ?+ t c\ld happ54 ,b !y are m likely to comb9e =ces 9 ord] to indu/rialize ! re/ ( ! _w4 ,& ?\gh !y are v diff]5t p yet bonds ( simil>ity are gr[+ up1 = ma*9]y sets its /amp ^u s\ls1 & ! same ma*9es w 9 ! end produce ! same s\ls4 ,to take b "o in/ance1 among bo? peoples !re has gr[n up ! love ( ! ,d>k ,cave4' #8,:at is ! ,d>k ,cave8' ask$ ,lysis & ,phaelon toge!r4 #8,y tell me1' ,i said1 #8t y rememb] ! ideal /ate t ,glaucon & o!rs work$ out ) me8' #8,yes1' said ,lysis1 #8x has (t5 be5 spok5 ( s9ce4' #8,well1' ,i said1 #8,i !re pictur$ ! unhappy lot ( m5 sitt+ huddl$ toge!r 9 a d>k place1 condemn$ all to look 9 ! same direction & to wat* phantoms & %ad[s ( m5 z ?\gh !y saw some?+ real4' #8,i rememb]4' #8,& ,i piti$ su* m51 condemn$ to ! contemplation ( unreality1 & s\ght1 y rememb]1 h[ !y might be rescu$ & br\ght out into ! sunlight & might le>n to see m5 z !y 74' #8,y ?\ght1' said ,lysis1 #8no lot c\ld be m wret*$ = reasonable m54' #8,well1' ,i said1 #8! ,am]icans & ! ,engli% are n reasonable & w pay money to be imprison$ 9 ^! caves1 & to contemplate lies & live altoge!r 9 a false _w4 ,?is is mak+ !m "o1 = ! greate/ bond ( union is to %>e a common exp]i5ce4' #8,h y ev] p5etrat$ into a ,d>k ,cave1 ,socrates8' ask$ ,phaelon 9 excitem5t4 #8,x 0 ! end ( my ,am]ican adv5tures1' ,i answ]$4 #8,= ,i endeav\r$ to save m5 f ent]+ ^! ,caves1 reason+ & expo/ulat+ ) !m1 ask+ !m :y !y w\ld give _! sub/ance to be s misl$ ab\t life4' #8,& :at happ5$1 ,socrates8' #8,alas1 my fri5ds1' ,i answ]$1 #8,i 0 consid]$ disgrac$ = attack+ 8our ,am]ican ,movies40' #8,& 9 ! end1 ,socrates1 ,i suppose y 7 deport$8' dem&$ ,lysis4 #8,:at else1 inde$1' ,i answ]$4 #8,:at1 !n1 did !y say to y8' #8,t ,i _h li$ 9 fill+ 9 my answ]s to ^? fir/ que/ions t all mu/ answ] :o w\ld receive a passport4 ,= !y said ,i _h pla9ly int5d$ to subv]t ! gov]nm5t ( ! ,unit$ ,/ates1 & t !y f\nd1 aft] inquiry f v>i\s publications1 t ,i _h be5 9 prison4 ,& ! inspector add$ t ,i _h be5 9 an asylum also1 = t ,i came f ,europe1 & ! ,balkans at t1 :i* he consid]$ to be no?+ less ?an a madh\se4' #8,& d y ?9k1' said ,aga?on1 #8!y w read y\r views ab\t !m8' #8,i ?9k s1' ,i answ]$1 #8= !y f9d ! topic ( !mselves ( mu* int]e/4 ,b ,i d n expect !m to pr(it by :at ,i say1 = ev5 ,xantippe is h&icapp$ 9 _! reg>d by belong+ to ! pa/4 ,= !y d n admire ! pa/ at all1 nor is ! ^w 8anci5t0 ev] us$ z praise4' #8,d !y despise all hi/ory8' ask$ ,lysis4 #8,yes1' ,i said1 #8& !y love ! utt]ance ( _! ,detroit ,oracle1 :5 he said ,hi/ory is bunk1 & !y reg>d him ) increas+ hon\r z he says ^! ?+s & z ! ,europeans h giv5 to ,ari/otle ! title !y ?9k hon\rable1 call+ him ! ,ma/] ( !m t ,"k1 ?\gh !y d n add h[ little1 s ! ,am]icans hail ! ,detroit ,oracle z ! ,ma/] ( !m t ,guess4' #8,b1' said ,lysis1 #8?\gh !y despise ev5 ! /ory ( ! ,greeks1 surely !y are eag] to "k ab\t ,rome1 = ,rome excell$ also 9 size & great build+s & bridges & 9 buy+ culture f ! ,ea/4 ,d !y n feel great sympa?y8' #8,no1' ,i repli$1 #8& ! prie/s & keep]s ( anci5t tradition f9d ! "n ( ,rome an emb>rassm5t to !m1 = ! ,am]icans w h no respect = ,rome1 s9ce !y he>d x 0 n built 9 a day4' #8,!y h nam$ a city aft] ,plato1' said ,aga?on4 #8,!y w "n a city aft] anybody1' ,i answ]$1 #8& !re are b few ( _! own citiz5s :om !y d n desire to =get4' ,"h ,aga?on int]rupt$ :at ,i 0 go+ to expla9 ab\t ! cities1 & said3 #8,b ,i believe !y ?9k ( *ang+ ! names ( _! cities into numb]s & ( numb]+ ! ,/ates4 ,& "s ?9k x w help effici5cy & be a complim5t to !mselves if !y aboli% ! words ,unit$ ,/ates & ,am]ica & get ev]ybody 9 all c\ntries to call !m ,"o1 z be+ c\ntry ,numb] #a ( ! :ole _w4 ,b ?is complim5t w co/ _m doll>s4' #8,if only philosophy co/ _m doll>s1' reflect$ ,lysis1 #8!y w\ld value x m4' #8,!y w\ld1' said ,aga?on1 #8b z x is y mu/ n despair1 ,socrates1 = y\r c\nt5ance is "o t gr[s ^u p4' #8,x grew ^u me1' ,i said4 #8,we1' he said1 #8h _h to get us$ to y1 & s x is p]haps ) ! ,am]icans & philosophy4 ,!y w acquire ! ta/e9 "t4' #8,anyway1' said ,lysis1 #8!y ought to be grateful to y1 ,socrates1 = exam9+ into :at !y ?9k & d & value4' #8,i ?9k s1' ,i repli$1 #8= ,i am po9t+ out to !m some?+ ( great mom5t to _! happ9ess :5 ,i decl>e t unless !y reop5 ! "q ( ! end ( liv+ !y w gr[ dissatisfi$ & exi/ wret*$ly4 ,= !y mu/ n g on lett+ !mselves be l$ by m5 ) a l[ aim or no aim at all4 ,= ! conditions ( ! future w n support ! philosophy ( 8mak+ good0 z did ! conditions ( ! pa/4 ,!re is a po9t ( view :i* suits a man or nation 9 ! e>ly /ruggle ) pov]ty :i* becomes ridicul\s :5 ! /ruggle is pa/4' #8,_m ( !m are beg9n+ to ?9k s1' said ,aga?on4 #8,& ,i am beg9n+ to ?9k1' said ,lysis ris+1 #8t we h consid]$ ^! ,am]icans q long en\gh1 & t we %\ld n[ move to "s o!r place & refre% ourselves1 & ) new companions exam9e some?+ else4' #8,i am ( y\r m9d2 ,lysis1' said ,phaelon1 & he also rose4 #8,i w accompany y1' ,i said4 #8,p]haps :5 ! ,am]icans he> :at we say ( !m !y w *ange !mselves ( _! own accord & become :at we w\ld l !m to be4 ,& if ?is discussion ( ours has t result x w be m useful1 ,i ?9k1 ?an _m ( our talks4 ,b :atev] happ5s we h done our be/ = ^! ,am]icans by tell+ !m ! tru?4 ,= !re are times :5 x is important to "k ! tru?1 & life is "o ( !m4' ,,! ,,end ,transcrib]'s ,notes3 ,text 9 italics is enclos$ by und]scores 7italics74 ,punctuation & spell+ inaccuracies 7 sil5tly correct$4 ,ar*aic & v>iable spell+ has be5 pres]v$4