,transcrib$ f ! #ahej ,joseph ,ma/]s edition by ,david ,price1 email ccx#jgdpglaf4org ,picture3 ,public doma9 book cov] ,a ,,lett] ,,to ,,! ,,bi%op ,,( ,,exet]4 99 99 99 99 99 ,,by ,a ,,layman4 99 99 99 99 99 ,,= ,,private ,,circulation ,,only4 99 99 99 99 99 ,,london2 ,,pr9t$ ,,= ,,! ,,au?or ,,by ,,joseph ,,ma/]s1 ,,ald]sgate ,,/reet4 ,,mdcccl4 99 99 99 99 99 ,,pr9t$ ,,by ,,joseph ,,ma/]s1 ,,ald]sgate ,,/reet4 99 99 99 99 99 ,a ,,lett]4 7,,copy47 ,,my ,,de> ,,"l1 ,,9 ! c\rse ( our conv]sation ye/]day y did me ! hon\r ( say+ t ,i _h pres5t$ ! decision ( ! ,judicial ,committee ( ! ,privy ,c\ncil 9 a some:at new po9t ( view to y1 & y wi%$ t ,i w\ld put ! same d[n 9 writ+ = y\r m mature consid]ation4 ,i d s n[--n )\t ! hope t my view1 if x be correct1 may t5d to quiet ! fe>s ( "s ( our m anxi\s fri5ds by %[+ !m :at ! effect ( t ,judgm5t really is1 & h[ little :5 prop]ly und]/ood x affects ! future prospects ( ! ,*ur*4 ,b fir/ ,i w\ld wi% to po9t out t a decision is n prop]ly to be treat$ z a law4 ,x diff]s 9 ?is mo/ mat]ial circum/ance2 t a law gov]ns all future decisions1 :e!r ! ,judges appo9t$ to decide agree ) ! law or n4 ,b a decision is que/ionable by !m1 & only b9ds !m if !y agree ) x4 ,i grant t a long c\rse ( uni=m decisions con/antly made1 & (t5 recurr+1 w\ld probably be s ne>ly equival5t z to be treat$ practically z a law4 ,b we are speak+ ( "o decision & ! effect ( x4 ,we h n[ a practical illu/ration ( t 9 a case 9 :i* y are int]e/$4 ,! ,que5's ,b5* h refus$ y a rule = a prohibition1 & y are que/ion+ t1 by r5ew+ ! same application to ! ,common ,pleas4 ,if !y agree ) ! ,que5's ,b5* on ! m]its ( ! argum5t1 !y w decide z ! ,que5's ,b5* h done4 ,if !y d n agree !y w )\t scruple act contr>y to t decision4 ,if ! decision ( ! ,que5's ,b5* 7 a law !y c\ld n d ?is4 ,x may be said no d\bt t ^! are c\rts ( co-ord9ate jurisdiction1 & t ! ,judicial ,committee is ! ,c\rt ( ultimate appeal4 ,b ?is really makes no diff]5ce4 ,x is cle> t any future ,judicial ,committee c\ld ov]rule ?is decision2 & s might ev5 any inf]ior c\rt subject h[ev] to ! consequ5ces ( an ultimate appeal aga9/ _! decision1 to :i* appeal ! ,judicial ,committee itself is n liable4 ,9 tru?1 :]e ! ,h\se ( ,lords makes 9 a civil suit1 a decision contr>y to ! rules ( law1 ! c\rts ( law v soon1 al?\gh !y d n expressly ov]rule x1 make x practically inop]ative by di/+ui%+ e case :i* comes be=e !m f x1 h[ev] m9ute su* di/9ctions may be2 :il/ if ! decision be "r & well-f\nd$1 !y c>ry x into effect fully & ) all its reasonable consequ5ces z coroll>ies f x4 ,to ^? !re=e1 & !re are _m1 :o ?9k t ?is decision ( ! ,judicial ,committee is wrong1 ,i %\ld say1 8lay be=e ! public ! gr\nds ( y\r diff]5ce ( op9ion op5ly1 9 ! %ape ( well-consid]$ argum5ts2 & 9 ! next case ( a simil> nature :i* arises g ) confid5ce 9 ^? argum5ts to ! next ,judicial ,committee1 & y w probably succe$1 ev5 if ! same ,judges sit !re1 & m c]ta9ly if _! successors d s1 9 ov]rul+ ?is errone\s decision4 ,9 ! mean :ile y w say1 !re is ! evil ( a cl]k ( h]etical op9ions admitt$ into ! ,*ur*2 ,i admit ! evil2 b suppose x 0 "o :o _h be5 acquitt$1 improp]ly p]haps 9 y\r op9ion1 ( any o!r (f5ce by compet5t au?ority1 w\ld x be fair to say1 because ! tribunal _h mi/ak5ly acquitt$ him1 t x 0 decid$ t ! ,*ur* might prop]ly be s]v$ by a crim9al1 & !re=e t y mu/ leave x8 c]ta9ly n4 ,?is cl]k is 9 a simil> category4 ,9 y\r op9ion he is a h]etic4 ,b x has be5 adjudg$ o!rwise by a compet5t tribunal1 & y mu/ acquiesce 9 ?is in/ance1 9 t judgm5t :i* y deem errone\s40 ,?is1 my de> ,"l1 is ! advice ,i %\ld v5ture to give "u ^! circum/ances1 & ,i hope t 9 s do+1 ,i %\ld h y\r concurr5ce4 ,b !re is ano!r po9t ( view also1 & ,i ?9k a v mat]ial "o 9 :i* ,i wi% to pres5t ! decision to y4 ,& x 0 ?is ( :i* we 7 speak+ ye/]day4 ,suppos+ ! decision to be ( great] weight 9 gov]n+ future cases ?an = ! above reasons ,i ?9k x is1 :at is ! decision itself8 ,n[ x seems to me q cle> t ! gov]n+ "p ( e decision z to future cases is ! rule ( law laid d[n !re94 ,if ! ,judges :o decide make a blund] z to ! facts ( ! p>ticul> case1 & ^u t errone\s view decide x1 lay+ d[n ! law correctly suppos+ ^? facts to be true1 ! decision may be a wrong "o 9 ! individual case1 b ! law laid d[n w be "r & may well gov]n 9 future4 ,to illu/rate my proposition let me suppose t ! ,judicial ,committee 9 /at+ :at !y1 f ! facts be=e !m1 consid]$ to be ,mr4 ,gorham's op9ions1 _h /at$ t !y consid]$ him z hold+ 8t all *ildr5 duly baptiz$ 9 ! mode prescrib$ by our ,liturgy 7 !reby reg5]ate0--& _h proce$$ to lay d[n z a rule t a ,cl]gyman hold+ t op9ion c\ld n ju/ly be refus$ in/itution by y\r lord%ip4 ,:o c\ld h diff]$ f !m z to ! rule--h[ev] mu* we might h be5 surpris$ z to _! op9ion on ! facts8 ,! rule w\ld be t :i* w\ld gov]n future cases4 ,x w\ld h be5 det]m9$ t ,cl]gym5 hold+ ! specifi$ op9ions mu/ be in/itut$--& no injury c\ld arise to ! ,*ur* f su* a decision4 ,our compla9t w\ld be t ,mr4 ,gorham did n hold ^! op9ions 9 fact4 ,?is wrong w\ld only apply to 8 individual case4 ,let me n[ call y\r att5tion to :at ! ,judicial ,committee h done4 ,!y beg9 by /at+1 z ,i h sugge/$1 ,mr4 ,gorham's op9ions z !y collect !m f ! docum5ts laid be=e !m4 ,!y are ^!4 #a4 ,t ,baptism is a ,sacram5t g5]ally necess>y to salvation2 b t ! grace ( reg5]ation does n s necess>ily accompany ! act ( ,baptism t reg5]ation inv>iably takes place 9 ,baptism4 #b4 ,t ! grace may be grant$ be=e1 91 or aft] ,baptism4 #c4 ,t ,baptism is an effectual sign ( grace by :i* ,,god works invisibly 9 u1 b only 9 su* z wor?ily receive x3 9 !m alone x has a :olesome effect3 & t )\t ref]5ce to ! qualification ( ! recipi5t x is n 9 itself an effectual sign ( grace4 #d4 ,t infants baptiz$ & dy+ be=e actual s91 are c]ta9ly sav$4 #e4 ,b t 9 no case is reg5]ation 9 ,baptism unconditional4 ,^u ^! op9ions1 & ^! alone1 ! ,c\rt proce$s to give judgm5t1--& !y hold t y\r ,lord%ip 0 n ju/ifi$ 9 refus+ in/itution to a ,cl]k hold+ ^! op9ions4 ,ev5 if ! decision 0 9 ! nature ( a law1 :i* x is n1 x is at ! mo/ a law fram$ 9 ^! specific t]ms4 ,n[ tak+ ?is to be s1 ,i am some:at at a loss to p]ceive :i* ( ^! five propositions tak5 to ! lett] necess>ily & cle>ly militates aga9/ any kn[n rule or doctr9e ( ! ,*ur* ( ,engl&4 ,does ! fir/8 ,= ,i h divid$ ! /atem5t into p>ts = great] conv5i5ce4 ,i appreh5d n4 ,= t adults be+ baptiz$ & n s9c]ely believ+ :at !y pr(ess to believe are n reg5]ate 9 ,baptism1 is a proposition1 ,i believe n disput$ by _m4 ,if ?is be true1 reg5]ation does n s necess>ily accompany ! act ( ,baptism1 t reg5]ation inv>iably 7t is to say 9 all cases7 takes place 9 ,baptism4 ,z express$ !re=e1 ! fir/ proposition is n necess>ily inconsi/5t ) true doctr9e4 ,its real fault is its ambiguity4 ,x is op51 z lawy]s w\ld say1 to a special demurr]1 & if ,mr4 ,gorham really s express$ himself1 ,i %\ld ?9k t 9 him an adroit special plead] _h be5 lo/ to ! law4 ,i proce$ to ! second clause4 ,t ! grace may be grant$ be=e1 91 or aft] ,baptism4 ,i d\bt :e!r ?is be op5 to exception4 ,i speak ) diffid5ce1 b ,i ?9k !re are passages ( ,holy ,writ 9 :i* x at lea/ seems probable t ! grace 0 grant$ be=e1 p]haps be+ confirm$ 91 ,baptism4 ,/4 ,paul is "o in/ance ( x4 ,! assembly at ! h\se ( ,cornelius ano!r4 ,& :o %all say t a conv]t$ & believ+ hea!n man1 a s9c]e c&idate = ,baptism1 may n h grace be=e ,baptism8 ,grace 9 ,baptism does n seem disputable4 ,grace aft] ,baptism is surely possible4 ,suppose ! case ( an adult duly baptiz$ ) wat]1 & 9 ! ,"n ( ! ,,fa!r1 & ! ,,son1 & ! ,,holy ,,_s1 :o be+ n completely a believ]1 becomes a complete & s9c]e ,*ri/ian believ] aft]w>ds4 ,x is at lea/ d\btful1 & t w\ld be en\gh1 :e!r a new ,baptism w\ld be lawful 9 su* a case4 ,b ,i conceive x is1 z to ?is1 suffici5t to say t ! ,*ur* 9 h] ,articles & ,liturgy has n cle>ly pron\nc$ su* a belief to be errone\s4 ,! ?ird clause :i* conf9es ! grace ( reg5]ation 9 ,baptism to ^? :o wor?ily receive x & to !m alone is1 ,i conceive1 true z f> z x goes4 ,x is defective 9 n add+ t our ,*ur* holds t all infants are wor?y recipi5ts4 ,b1 z x /&s1 x is n inconsi/5t ) su* an op9ion4 ,! f\r? clause is 9 ! v words ( ! ,liturgy4 ,! fif?1 y w obs]ve1 is v c>efully word$4 ,x m]ely ass]ts1 8t 9 no case is reg5]ation 9 ,baptism unconditional40 ,nor does ! ,*ur*1 z ,i believe1 say o!rwise4 ,!re is always ! condition ( be+ a wor?y recipi5t4 ,if ,mr4 ,gorham ?9ks all infants are s1 & he n[h]e 9 ?is /atem5t ( 8 op9ions says ! contr>y1 ,i d n ?9k ! ,*ur* w disagree ) him1 = x may well be hold5 t a condition ( wor?9ess is bo? requir$ & fulfill$ 9 infant ,baptism4 ,& 9 adult ,baptism ! ,*ur* does hold t ?is condition is n only requir$1 b t x may or may n be fulfill$ at ! "t ( ,baptism4 ,x may also be t ?is p>agraph means t ! condition ( us+ ! elem5t ( wat] & ! words ( our ,,"l is requir$4 ,& if s1 ,i conceive we d n diff] ) him 9 t respect4 ,i h n[ gone ?r\gh ! :ole4 ,i hope ,i may satisfy y z ,i h satisfi$ myself1 t if ?is /atem5t ( ,mr4 ,gorham's op9ions be a true1 full1 & complete /atem5t ( !m1 & he holds no?+ m adv]se to ! ,*ur* ?an ^! exact words necess>ily import1 y _c ) ju/ice impea* or compla9 ( ! decision 9 8 fav\r4 ,if su* an op9ion _h come be=e y z ,bi%op1 9 8 exam9ation1 ,i d n = a mom5t suppose t y w\ld h be5 satisfi$ ) x4 ,:at 9 x is ambigu\s y w\ld h requir$ to be made m precise4 ,:at 9 x is defective y w\ld h caus$ to be suppli$4 ,b ?is ! ,c\rt c\ld n d4 ,!y are limit$ by ! actual exam9ation & ! op9ions to be extract$ f x4 ,& !y _c refuse ,mr4 ,gorham's pray] ( in/itution if ! case be n made out affirmatively aga9/ him4 ,! law1 !n1 laid d[n by ! ,judicial ,committee is1 t a ,cl]k hold+ ^! specifi$ op9ions1 & no m1 mu/ be in/itut$1 if 9 o!r respects unobjectionable4 ,?is law1 if x be a law1 is t :i* affects future cases4 ,if1 !re=e1 a ,cl]k 7 av[$ly to hold n[1 totidem v]bis1 t all ,infants are n wor?y recipi5ts ( ,baptism1 & are n reg5]ate by ,baptism1 he w f9d x impossible1 9 ! lett] ( ?is decision1 to obta9 protection = t op9ion4 ,= x is n m5tion$ 9 ! t]ms ( ! decision at all4 ,d ,i !n say t ,i ?9k ! decision 9 ?is case is "r8 ,f> f x4 ,i own t to my m9d x is altoge!r errone\s4 ,b ! error consi/s 9 ?is1 t ! ,judges 9 _! suppos$ ab/ract ( ,mr4 ,gorham's op9ions1 h n /at$ ! facts correctly4 ,x seems to me t he holds o!r op9ions n /at$ 9 ?is ab/ract1 :i* ought to h produc$ an opposite decision4 ,b ?is is l ! case ( a ,jury mi/ak+1 or falsely f9d+ ! facts ( a case4 ,t makes no rule = ! gov]nm5t ( future cases--?\gh x does a p>ticul> & irrem$iable inju/ice 9 ! case 9 :i* x happ5s4 ,i conclude1 !re=e1 #a/4 ,t ?is is b a decision & no law4 ,t x gov]ns future cases only if ! ,judges :o %all be call$ to det]m9e !m1 agree ) ! reasons giv5 9 ?is case4 ,t if on argum5t & full consid]ation ^! reasons are insuffici5t1 ?is decision may--ought to be--& w be--ov]rul$4 ,!re=e1 x does n gov]n or affect ! ,*ur*1 z a law made 9 ,convocation w\ld d4 #bnd4 ,i conclude t ev5 if x 7 a law1 x mu/ be tak5 9 ! exact t]ms us$ by ! ,c\rt2 & t ^? t]ms con/ru$ lit]ally1 are n necess>ily inconsi/5t ) s\nd doctr9e4 #crd4 ,t ! real error 9 ?is case is "o ( fact1 viz41 t ! ,judges h mis/at$ ,mr4 ,gorham's op9ions1 or1 :i* is ! same ?+1 h n fully /at$ all ! errone\s op9ions :i*1 f ! docum5ts submitt$ to !m1 he really holds2 & t ?is error1 lam5table z x is1 does n g beyond a wrong decision 9 ! individual case1 & _c be cit$ z a prec$5t1 except = ! purpose ( avoid+ su* mi/akes 9 future4 ,n[ if ?is be s1 :y %\ld ?is decision s mu* di/urb ! m9ds ( zeal\s & s9c]e m51 :o 9 all o!r respects1 & up to ?is "t1 h rema9$ 9 our ,communion among/ ! mo/ valu$ ( its memb]s8 ,aft] turn+ ?is matt] mu* & (t5 9 my ?\ghts1 ,i mu/ delib]ately say1 t 9 my humble judgm5t x %\ld h no su* effect4 ,x may be t ! preval5ce ( errone\s views1 br\ght n[ "u our notice1 %\ld cause a great] c>e to set =? (t5 & m emphatically ! tru? 9 ?is matt]4 ,9 all probability ?is w succe$4 ,= ! tru? ne$s only to be %[n to be successful4 ,or x may be t y\r ,lord%ip & y\r bre?r5 w d well to assi/ ! inf]ior ,cl]gy1 & u1 ! laity ( y\r flocks1 ) "s assurance & advice on ?is important subject 9 dispute1 & to decl>e au?oritatively t our ,*ur* does n hold d\btful op9ions on ei!r ( ! two great ,sacram5ts1 = surely if %e did1 %e w\ld n be a true bran* ( ! ,ca?olic ,*ur* at all4 ,i tru/ we %all n look 9 va9 to our ,bi%ops = an answ] to ?is "q4 ,b 9 any ev5t1 ,i see no gr\nd = leav+ ! ,*ur* 9 su* an em]g5cy4 ,we ought r1 ,i ?9k1 to cl+ m closely to h] 9 ?is /ruggle aga9/ error & latitud9>ian op9ions4 ,) _m apologies = giv+ y ! tr\ble ( read+ ?is long lett]1 & ) ! reque/ t y w fav\r me ) y\r op9ion z to ! subject ( x4 ,believe me1 ,my de> ,"l1 ,v fai?fully y\rs4 ,! ,"l ,bi%op ( ,exet]4 99 99 99 99 99 ,p4,s4--,i am aw>e t x is a receiv$1 & probably a correct op9ion1 t ,baptism1 if rightly adm9i/]$1 is to all p]sons effectual reg5]ation1 ei!r = good or = ill4 ,p]haps x 0 = ?is reason t ! v same decl>ation1 8,see+ n[ t ^! p]sons are reg5]ate10 is reta9$ 9 ! s]vice = adults1 z is f\nd 9 t = infants1 al?\gh ! reg5]ation = good is 9 adults conf9$ to ! wor?y receiv]s ( ! rite4 ,& !re is a fur!r confirmation ( x 9 ! peculi> word+ ( ! ,article ( ,baptism1 :i* speaks ( !m :o rightly receive x2 :]eas1 ! article z to ! ,eu*>i/ speaks ( ^? :o 7n only7 rightly 7b7 wor?ily & ) fai? receive x4 ,if ?is be s1 x w\ld seem to exclude wor?9ess1 & ) fai?1 f be+ necess>y +r$i5ts 9 ! effectual reg5]ation ( baptism1 ?\gh necess>y 9 ! effectual reg5]ation to et]nal life4 ,b ?is really w\ld n v>y ! above argum5t1 & !re=e ,i only adv]t to x "h1 t ,i may n seem to h undesign$ly omitt$ x4 ,= x is q obvi\s t bo? y\r ,lord%ip 9 y\r exam9ation--,mr4 ,gorham 9 8 answ]s1 & ! ,judicial ,committee 9 _! ,judgm5t1 ref] only to ,reg5]ation to ,et]nal ,life--us+ x always 9 ! good s5se z di/+ui%$ f ! effectual reg5]ation above ref]r$ to4 ,& !re=e grant+ ! above to be ! true & correct view ( ! doctr9e1 x w leave ! pres5t argum5t precisely ( ! same1 if ( any1 value z be=e4 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 ,,london3 ,j4 ,,ma/]s1 ,,pr9t]1 ,,ald]sgate ,,/reet4