,,! ,,seek]s by ,,jessie ,e4 ,,sampt] ,) an introduction by ,,pr(essor ,,josiah ,,royce ,,mit*ell ,,k5n]ley ,,new ,,york ,,mcmx ,copyright #aiaj by ,mit*ell ,k5n]ley ,a successful exp]im5t 9 non-sect>ian religion1 9 moral & /hetic enquiry1 ) "y p 9 new ways1 9 se>* ( ! ,mean+ ( ,?+s4 ,,! ,,seek]s ,errata ,page #cg1 ,l9e #b4 8& he saw0 %\ld read 8& we saw40 #ia1 ,la/ l9e4 8,i answ]$0 %\ld read 8%e answ]$40 #ic1 ,l9e #bb4 8b a ^w itself0 %\ld read 8"w itself40 #ajd1 ,l9e #ae4 8a s5se ( duty0 %\ld read 8a s5se ( unity40 #bcf1 ,l9e #ac4 8diff]5t f ea* "o0 %\ld read 8diff]5t =40 #bff1 ,l9e #c4 8op]ator0 %\ld read 8spectator40 ,errata h also be5 incorporat$ into ! ,transcrib]'s ,notes4 ,table ( ,cont5ts ,an ,introductory ,^w ,! ,beg9n+ ,! ,memb]s ,fir/ ,meet+ ,second ,meet+ ,?ird ,meet+ ,f\r? ,meet+ ,fif? ,meet+ ,six? ,meet+ ,sev5? ,meet+ ,eigh? ,meet+ ,n9? ,meet+ ,t5? ,meet+ ,elev5? ,meet+ ,twelf? ,meet+ ,?irte5? ,meet+ ,f\rte5? ,meet+ ,fifte5? ,meet+ ,sixte5? ,meet+ ,sev5te5? ,meet+ ,app5dix ,table ( ,cont5ts n 9 ! orig9al book & is add$ = read] conv5i5ce4 ,transcrib]'s ,notes c be f\nd at ! end ( ?is e,book4 ,,! ,,seek]s ,,an ,,introductory ,,^w ,,by ,,pr(essor ,,josiah ,,royce1 ,,ph4,d41 ,,ll4,d4 ,i h be5 ask$ by ! au?or to say a ^w by way ( introduction to ?is v int]e/+ record ( conv]sations & inquiries4 ,on ! :ole1 ,i feel my ^w to be sup]flu\s2 = ! book speaks = itself1 & e read] w =m 8 own op9ion4 ,b s9ce ! au?or has ask$ = my co-op]ation1 ,i gladly (f] :at little ,i c4 ,i am a tea*] ( philosophy at a univ]sity4 ,= ! mo/ "p my own c\rses are te*nical 9 "*4 ,"s ( my "w is ) graduate /ud5ts4 ,i am accu/om$ to discuss controv]t$ op9ions ) p :o reg>d philosophy f a skeptical & m or less controv]sial1 & almo/ always highly critical1 po9t ( view4 ,h5ce1 my own fir/ impression ( ! "w ( ! 8,seek]s0 & ( ! lead] ( _! always pleas+ inquiries1 0 m+l$ ) a c]ta9 wond] z to ! possibility ( _! accompli%+ toge!r1 z well z !y h done1 :at !y und]took4 ,?is wond] has *ang$1 z ,i h become bett] acqua9t$ ) !m1 into a delight t ! tact1 ! caution1 ! tol]ance & ! e>ne/ness ( ! lead]1 & ! skill & docility ( ! pupils1 c\ld result 9 sett+ be=e u s f9e a model ( tea*+ & ( le>n+ z "h appe>s4 ,! book is "o to enc\rage e lov] ( good ?+s1 & ev]yone :o wants to see h[ ! m9ds ( "y p 9 ?is c\ntry1 & liv+ "u good conditions1 c be turn$ t[>d great que/ions 9 su* a way z to enc\rage s9c]ity1 ?\ghtfulness & ! beg9n+s ( true wisdom4 ,9 :at little ,i h to say ( ?is book ,i ought ( c\rse to ab/ract altoge!r f su* agreem5t z ,i inde$ feel ) ! =m ( ,idealism :i* ,miss ,sampt] repres5ts4 ,! "q put to me is ! "q :e!r ! me?od ( proc$ure "h adopt$ is "o t promises to be g5u9ely useful z an initiation ( "y p into ! /udy ( deep] que/ions4 ,i answ] t ! au?or seems to h made out h] case1 & to h prov$ h] fai? 9 h] me?od by h] "w4 ,! age & ! previ\s tra9+ ( ! 8,seek]s0--z !y are sket*$ 9 ! au?or's prelim9>y /atem5t--once presuppos$1 ?is mode ( proc$ure c\ld only prove a help to !m4 ,! me?ods us$ are an important beg9n+4 ,if any ( ! 8,seek]s0 g on to a m advanc$ /udy ( philosophy1 9 college or else:]e1 !y ought to prove apt le>n]s4 ,if !y simply turn to life z _! fur!r tea*]1 !y %\ld be ready to pr(it by "s ( its deepe/ lessons bett] ?an !y c\ld o!rwise h done4 ,if1 ^u fur!r inquiry1 !y incl9e to o!r op9ions ab\t ! _w & ab\t life ?an ! ones !y h emphasiz$1 !y w /ill always rema9 m tol]ant ( ! v>ieties ( op9ion1 & m hopeful ( ! "r & ! p[] ( ! human m9d to grapple ) grave issues1 ?an !y w\ld o!rwise h be54 ,^! h\rs ( 8seek+0 w h op5$ _! eyes to values :i* are inde$ p]man5t1 :atev] w be ! true solution ( ! problems ( philosophy2 & ! memory ( ^! h\rs w prove h5ce=? a safegu>d aga9/ cynicism :5 !y d\bt1 & aga9/ intol]ance & inhumanity :5 !y believe4 ,&1 :atev] ! tru? may be1 ab\t ,god1 or ab\t ! _w1 or ab\t life1 cynicism 9 d\bt1 & intol]ance & inhumanity 9 belief1 are great evils1 aga9/ :i* ! "y p ( our "t ne$ to be gu>d$ q z mu* z m5 ne$$ to be gu>d$ aga9/ su* evils 9 ! days ei!r ( ! ,sophi/s or ( ! ,inquisitors4 ,=1 9 "o guise or ano!r1 speak+ ! language ( old or ( new fai? or unfai?1 ,sophi/s & ,inquisitors we h always ) u1 ei!r corrupt+ or oppress+ ! y\?4 ,! me?ods ( our au?or1 z set =? 9 ?is book1 make = lib]ty toge!r ) s]i\sness1 = self-expression toge!r ) rev]5ce1 = ?\ghtfulness toge!r ) a s5se ( deep] values4 ,& 9 s f> ! book is a success z a model ( ! way 9 :i* our new problems mu/ be met :5 we h to deal ) ! "y4 ,if "o und]takes to consid] su* topics ) a class z y\?ful & at ! same "t z enlight5$ z ! 8,seek]s10 ! dilemma is obvi\s4 ,"o mu/ inde$ be m or less dogmatic 9 tone ab\t at lea/ "s c5tral int]e/2 "o mu/ make use ( ! p]suasive p[] ( a tea*]'s p]sonal influ5ce2 or else "o w lead to no def9ite results4 ,on ! o!r h&1 if "o prop\nds "o's dogmas m]ely z ! traditional tea*] ( religion has always done by say+3 8,?is is our fai?4 ,?is is :at y %\ld believe10--"o is !n 9 no case tea*+ philosophy1 & "o is h>dly help+ ! "y p to 8seek40 ,moreov]1 su* m]e dogmas1 address$ to "y p 9 :om ! p]iod ( 8enlight5m5t0 has already begun1 w t5d to awak5 9 _! m9ds new d\bts & objections1 r ?an to convey to !m ! positive tru?1 ev5 if "o's own dogmas happ5 to be true4 ,h5ce arises a problem ( in/ruction :i* _c be solv$ 9 ! case ( ^! 8,seek]s0 z we tea*]s ( philosophy (t5 try n[adays to solve our analog\s problems 9 deal+ ) old] pupils 9 college4 ,"s ( u meet our own problems ) ! old] /ud5ts by directly disclaim+ all au?ority to control _! convictions1 by ask+ !m to become z self-critical & indep5d5t z !y c1 & by /at+ our own op9ions ) ! int5t n to make disciples1 b to enable our /ud5ts to =m _! own p]sonal judgm5ts ?r\gh ! v sympa?y ) our ef=ts to be reflective1 self-critical & con/ructive4 ,?us we d n try to convey a fai? s mu* z to help our /ud5ts to _! own spiritual indep5d5ce4 ,9 /rong opposition to our mode ( proc$ure1 _m popul> tea*]s ( ?is or t =m ( 8,new ,?\ght0 h be5 try+ ( late to annul mod]n d\bts1 & to lead m5 to a high] spiritual insight by means ( c]ta9 8intuitions10 = ! sake ( :i* skeptical inquiry1 /]n criticism1 elaborate reflection mu/ be laid aside2 s t ! k9dly dispos$ le>n]1 ev5 if he inde$ is n to be a believ] 9 c]ta9 old-fa%ion$ cre$s1 /ill looks to 8 tea*] = a means ( quiet+ 8 d\bts1 & s t :at is suppos$ to be 8philosophy0 becomes a sort ( 8an/hetic revelation10 ) ! tea*] z ! assi/ant :o adm9i/]s ! an/hetic :]eby ! pupil is prep>$ = ! surg]y ( life4 ,n[1 :atev] may be ! use ( su* 8,new ,?\ght0 = invalid wrecks1 or ev5 = m or less _w-we>y lov]s ( ! good1 :om sad exp]i5ce has turn$ away f _! e>li] religi\s cre$s1 & :o ne$ to be re/or$ to _! c\rage 9 fac+ reality2--/ill1 ^! an/hetic me?ods ( ! lov]s ( ! 8sil5ce0 & ( ! vague light1 are n suit$ to ! be/ ne$s ( ! enlight5$ "y p1 su* z ^! 8,seek]s0 :o are ab\t to beg9 life1 :o "k _! little fragm5ts ( sci5ce1 ( socialism1 & ( mod]n problems1 & :o want unity ) cle>ness4 ,nor are su* "y p at j ?is age yet ready = our m te*nical academic proc$ure4 ,%all !y be left !n unguid$1 until _! int]e/ 9 unify+ life has be5 lo/ 9 ! confusion & v>iety ( _! increas+ k1 until _! y\?ful idealism has be5 sadd5$ & p]haps soil$ by ! _w1 & until _! criticism ( life has become at once tragic & cynical8 ,miss ,sampt] has und]tak5 to answ] ^! que/ions by deal+ ) ! ne$ ( j su* p4 ,%e does s ) a g5u9e cle>ness ( vision1 ) a c>eful t\* t helps & ) a _s :i* prep>es !m to meet _! problems1 & n to lose unity by reason ( ! complexities ( _! situation4 ,%e dogmatizes a little1 to be sure2 & 9 fact %e repeats "s ( h] dogmas n infrequ5tly1 )\t giv+ any elaborate reasons = ^! dogmas4 ,!y are ! dogmas ( a metaphysical idealism :i* ,i myself 9 ! ma9 accept1 b :i* no direct intuition c v adequately ju/ify1 :ile _! te*nical ju/ification c\ld n possibly be discuss$ at l5g? 9 ! meet+s ( ! 8,seek]s40 ,on ! o!r h&1 our au?or is no m]e p>tisan ( intuition4 ,h] dogmas are /at$ 9 =ms t n only w9 h] 8pla/ic y\?0 to agreem5t1 b *all5ge !m to a reflection :i* ere long1 9 "s ( !m1 w lead to new int]pretations1 to d\bts1 & s1 9 "t1 to a high] insight ?an !y at fir/ ga94 ,%e sets h] pupils to ?9k+ z well z to receiv+2 !y become inquir]s r ?an passive recipi5ts ( an intuition4 ,!y are ?us prep>$ = a v>iety ( future religi\s & philosophical exp]i5ces1 & yet !y are kept 9 t\* ) t love & hope ( unity :i* alone c ju/ify ! exi/5ce ( our v d\bts1 ( our philosophical disputes1 & ( our mod]n complications ( life4 ,z a means ( avoid+ bo? ( ! oppos+ extremes sket*$ 9 ! =ego+ acc\nt ( ! ways ( tea*+ philosophical op9ions1 z a via m$ia 9 ! "w ( beg9n+ ! philosophical in/ruction ( "y p1 z a prep>ation = m critical /udy1 z a cons]vation ( "s ( ! be/ 9 ! _s ( fai? )\t an undue appeal to m]e intuition1 & z a model ( :at c be done to awak5 a v notable type ( "y inquir]s su* z our mod]n tra9+ t5ds to produce 9 ! homes ( v _m ( u--?is book is1 9 my op9ion1 to be v he>tily comm5d$4 ,! educational problem ) :i* x deals conc]ns mean:ile a v deep & int5sely practical int]e/ ( our ,am]ican civilization4 ,we _c reta9 ! unity ( our national consci\sness unless we c keep1 ev5 9 ! mid/ ( all ! complications & d\bts ( ! mod]n _w1 our s5se ( ! great common values ( ! spiritual _w4 ,)\t philosophy1 our nation c !re=e nev] come to its own4 ,philosophy does n mean ! acceptance ( any m]e au?ority4 ,& x w n lead u to univ]sal agreem5t ab\t any "o =m ( cre$4 ,b x w tea* u to unite fre$om1 tol]ance1 insight1 & spirituality4 ,)\t ^!1 ( :at wor? w\ld be m]e bulk & m]e weal? to our nation8 ,i welcome ?is book !n because our au?or has contribut$ to "o ( ! mo/ important ( ! tasks ( our "t--! task ( help+ our nation to rega9 ! n[ mu* confus$ & endang]$ consci\sness ( its own unity4 ,,josiah ,,royce ,h>v>d ,univ]sity1 ,augu/ #c1 #aiaj4 ,,! ,,seek]s ,,! ,,beg9n+ ,?is is a live book4 ,x 0 liv$ fir/1 & writt5 only aft]w>ds4 ,s x c lay no claim to ! title ( art1 :i* is exp]i5ce rem\ld$ 9 ! ca/ ( individual g5ius2 = ?is 0 n at all m\ld$1 save z ! writt5 ^w re%apes ! spok54 ,x is a philosophic adv5ture1 an exp]im5t1 writt5 d[n by "o1 b liv$ by sev54 ,:y did ,i write x d[n8 may be ask$4 ,e new book ne$s an excuse = be+4 ,i wrote x d[n because x seem$ an answ]1 p]haps a p>tial1 b /ill a liv+ answ]1 to two que/ions t cry al\d4 ,z ,i look ab\t me1 & obs]ve ! do+s & ?\ghts ( m5 & wom5 9 ?is active "t1 ,i notice two problems1 relat$ "o to ! o!r1 & want+ b "o solution4 ,fir/ ( ^! is a lack ( common purpose 9 ! works ( life4 ,_m religions are !re1 _m cre$s & anti-cre$s1 _m purposes1 f petty1 selfi% ga9 to re=ms 9 gov]nm5t & social s]vice4 ,sci5ti/1 politician1 arti/1 philan?ropi/ & m9i/] g ea* t[>d a p>tial goal1 9 opposition to "o ano!r1 ) no "o purpose1 no end beyond all less] ends1 no l>g] patriotism4 ,morals are ei!r v /iff or v lax1 )\t any consci\s reason = ei!r _! /iffness or _! laxity4 ,! only reason = moral conviction1 ! only purpose t c\ld unite all purposes1 ! only patriotism to hold all m5 toge!r & give ! union ne$ful = great & /rong a*ievem5t1 is a common fai? 9 ! goal & mean+ ( life4 ,! second problem is a m consci\s "o1 ! problem ( moral & religi\s education = our *ildr54 ,= ourselves--s ?9k _m among u--we d n ne$ a philosophy or religion2 we are good en\gh )\t hav+ any reason = be+ good4 ,b we ?9k our *ildr5 ne$ "s in/ruction & guidance1 some?+ to satisfy ! bless$ crav+s & d\bts t we h long s9ce kill$ )9 ourselves4 ,= b>ely "o among u fails to rememb] 8 fifte5-ye>-old que/ion+s & /riv+s1 & 8 defeat1 :5 at la/ he decid$ to ?9k no m1 because 8 problem 0 insoluble4 ,b ev5 ^! :o are s well cont5t$ ) _! own h>d-won torpor want some?+ bett] = _! *ildr54 ,! "q is ask$ aga9 & aga93 8,%all we tea* our *ildr5 :at we d n believe8 ,& c we tea* !m :at we d believe80 ,9 ?is book ,i attempt to solve bo? problems at once1 & ?r\gh ! *ildr5 to speak to _! p>5ts4 ,= _m :o w n admit ! lea/ int]e/ 9 ! vital que/ions t h creat$ e religion & philosophy ?r\gh\t "t1 /ill are int]e/$ & w li/5 :5 ! problem t\*es _! own *ildr54 ,& only ?r\gh ! creative1 op5 & d>+ m9d ( y\?1 n yet ei!r /iff5$ or brok51 c ! _s ( a l>g] & a ri*] fai? give new inspiration4 ,i am conv9c$ t to-day all ?\ghtful m5 believe ! same1 :]e vital que/ions arise1 & t ea* man sees a diff]5t angle ( ! same tru?1 :i* gr[s & gr[s 9 our vision1 ) ! gr[+ k ( man4 ,all our m9i/]s ) _! diff]5t *ur*es1 & our congregations ) _! sect>ian prejudices1 h at he>t a common goal1 a fai? t ne$s only to be spok5 to be believ$4 ,let _! *ildr5 draw !m toge!r4 ,f9d a common religion to be taught 9 ! s*ool--:]e ?is necessity is ! pres5t problem ( all educators1 & :]e s f> e?ical c\rses & emasculat$ ,*ri/ianity h giv5 no solution--& f t l>g] patriotism ( a common fai? 9 *ildhood w spr+ ! fai? bigg] ?an e?ics & philan?ropics1 big en\gh to include all *ur*es & sy/ems 9 an unse5 bro!rhood4 ,7 ,i able to c>ry out ?is idea 9 a s*ool1 ,i w\ld h classes or clubs1 su* z ! ,seek]s1 = all girls & boys ( ab\t ! ?ird or f\r? high-s*ool ye>4 ,!n1 = ! y\ng] *ildr5 z well z = ! old] ones1 ,i w\ld h songs & read+s at ! assembly1 :i* w\ld sugge/ or picture =? ! inmo/ _s ( our mod]n fai?4 ,^! songs & read+s ,i w\ld let ! old] pupils *oose & discuss 9 _! clubs2 & ,i w\ld leave 9 _! h&s1 z mu* z possible1 ! social & spiritual regulation ( ! s*ool life4 ,fai? & action g toge!r4 ,ea* )\t ! o!r is b>r54 ,my purpose 9 ?is book is !n tw(old3 to record h[ su* clubs & classes "w 9 practice1 & !reby sugge/ a me?od f exp]i5ce2 also to give1 9 su* l>ge & p]haps sup]ficial aspect z ! means necessitate1 ! ma9 outl9e ( my ?\ght4 ,n m9e alone1 b y\rs & e man's4 ,i br+ no news2 b only an old1 =gott5 /ory1 new & /range to our wid5$ k4 ,accept its l>ge int5t1 if y reject its less] a*ievem5t2 admit t ?is is ! only possible tru? 9 ! light ( our pres5t k4 ,?\gh y believe m ?an ?is1 accept at lea/ ! ,seek]s' pa? z po9t+ t[>d ! goal4 ,to ^! *ildr5 x gave a way & a light2 x satisfi$ a ne$ & answ]$ a "q1 & br\ght new weapons = ! battle ( ?\ght :]e9 mo/ ( u fail f we>9ess4 ,= !m x has already succe$$1 :atev] its com+ fate4 ,unless "o sees a glimpse ( tru? at fifte51 en\gh to recognize x1 "o is n likely to disc]n x lat]1 ?r\gh ! mi/ ( un=m$ k4 ,& at fifte5 "o craves ?is some?+ t c relate & %ape all ?\ght4 ,s x happ5$ t ,i organiz$ ! club ( ,seek]s1 compos$ ( v diff]5t girls & boys1 because ( ?is "o common ne$4 ,! conditions necess>y = memb]%ip 7 few4 ,! fir/ condition1 ! "o 9 its nature inevitable1 0 t ea* memb] %\ld be int]e/$ & en?usia/ic 9 our que/1 a seek] f ne$ & desire4 ,only su* w\ld h /ay$ ) u4 ,& ?is1 p]haps1 0 a selective process ( extreme rigor4 ,o!rwise ! conditions ( memb]%ip 7 n ( ! sort to put a premium on extraord9>y ability4 ,!y 7 t ! memb]s %\ld be ov] f\rte51 & "u sev5te51 & %\ld h f9i%$ _! elem5t>y s*ool c\rse4 ,i also limit$ ! memb]%ip 9 numb]4 ,among my acqua9tances 7 _m m girls :o w\ld h wi%$ to jo9 u1 b no m ?an ! two boys4 ,i expla9 ?is n by ! fact t boys are less int]e/$ 9 ^! que/ions1 b t _! int]e/ develops lat]4 ,if ,i _h s\ght boys ( eighte5 or n9ete51 ,i c\ld h f\nd !m easily4 ,at ! "t1 h[ev]1 ,i did n realize ?is fact4 ,i ?9k t ! *ildr5 7 av]age ( _! k9d4 ,! k9d1 nev]!less1 may h c>ri$ ) x "s intellectual sup]iority or precocity1 su* z ! effects ( environm5t & urban life4 ,= ^! ?+s1 ?r\gh ! *ance ( acqua9tance%ip1 !y _h 9 common3 !y 7 all br$ 9 ,new ,york ,city1 9 educat$ families ( ! upp] middle class 7?\gh n all ( well-to-d p>5ts71 & all b "o1 ,ru?1 :o is a ,*ri/ian ,sci5ti/1 ( homes unusually lib]al 9 _! religi\s ?\ght4 ,!re=e ^! *ildr5 7 free f ^? clogg+ sup]/itions & false p]spectives :i* result f e>ly tra9+ 9 any symbolic & fix$ cre$4 ,take ^! influ5ces = :at !y 7 wor?4 ,beyond !m ! *ildr5 _h no special advantage or disadvantage4 ,i say all ?is z a def5ce aga9/ a possible criticism3 namely1 t ! *ildr5 seem1 by _! compreh5sion & orig9al ideas1 to be f> above ! av]age boys & girls ( ! same age4 ,?is ,i d5y1 & = good reasons4 ,naturally ,i h meant ?is exp]im5t ( a class 9 religi\s philosophy = adolesc5t boys & girls to be g5]al 9 its application4 ,& ,i believe x to be s4 ,mo/ gr[n p h =gott5 h[ !y felt & ?\ght at fifte51 & are apt to und]rate ! m5tal processes ( boys & girls4 ,i myself at t age felt s ke5ly ! lack ( sympa?y 9 old] p t ,i made a po9t ( rememb]+ & writ+ d[n c]ta9 exp]i5ces4 ,i que/ion$ sev]al fri5ds1 & at la/ got admissions f !m t !y1 too1 _h ?\ght 9 ! same way at fifte54 ,b no d\bt !y /ill look ^u !mselves z unique 9 ?is respect1 = at fifte5 we all ?9k ourselves exceptions1 & no matt] h[ commonplace we may be n[ we are apt vaguely to keep t memory4 ,!n1 too1 "o mu/ n =get ! effect ( consci\s & unconsci\s sugge/ion4 ,i _h my plans c>efully made1 & knew exactly 9 :at direction ,i meant to lead our ideas1 b ! *ildr5 knew v little ( ?is =eplann+1 & w5t ( !mselves :]e ,i wi%$ !m to g4 ,no d\bt sugge/ion blaz$ trails = !m ?r\gh ?is wild]ness1 if x did n make a pa?1 &1 z my record w prove1 my que/ions (t5 /imulat$ !m to answ]s t w\ld n o!rwise h be5 possible4 ,b (t5 _! answ]s 7 :olly unexpect$ & surpris+4 ,z our "n tells1 we are seek]s1 & ,i h f\nd1 at ! v lea/1 z mu* z !y4 ,above all1 my b\ndless fai? 9 ! "y 0 ju/ifi$4 ,& my critics mu/ admit t !y h n ?is fai? !mselves1 & s c\ld nev] h put x to ! te/ ( exp]i5ce1 z ,i h done4 ,! *ildr5's pap]s %[ bett] ?an writt5 words ( m9e exactly :at ! meet+s meant to !m1 & w prove also1 ,i ?9k1 _! av]age ability4 ,!y are pr9t$ exactly z writt51 save = corrections 9 spell+ & punctuation1 :i* 7 by no means p]fect4 ,! conv]sations 7 record$ z precisely z possible f memory & f notes tak5 imm$iately aft] ! meet+s4 ,z any "o ) exp]i5ce w "k1 x is impossible to record ! brok5 fragm5ts ( actual spee* )\t sometimes comb9+ m]e phrases into complete s5t5ces4 ,! writt5 is nev] l ! spok5 ?\ght4 ,x appe>s l x1 :i* x w\ld n d if x 7 a precise phonographic transcription4 ,i h made ! *ildr5 speak 89 "*10 us+ always _! own words & _! own ideas1 :atev] ^? might be2 ev5 be+ c>eful to record *>act]i/ic phrases & expressions4 ,& t ,i _h succe$$ 0 prov$ by ! *ildr5 !mselves1 :5 !y he>d ! manuscript read & recogniz$ !mselves & ea* o!r1 to _! great amusem5t4 ,n until all ! meet+s 7 ov] _h !y any idea t ,i 0 keep+ ?is record4 ,we sev51 !n1 h made ?is book2 & "o o!r "o1 :o1 ?\gh nev] pres5t at ! meet+s1 _h 8 l>ge %>e ( influ5ce 9 !m4 ,?is 0 my fri5d & ,flor5ce's big bro!r ,ar?ur--s (t5 quot$ by h]--& quot$ by me )\t ackn[l$gm5t1 especially 9 ! meet+s on ! /hetic ideal1 :i* w\ld h be5 impossible )\t 8 help4 ,= all lov]s ( y\? & individual ?\ght1 = all lov]s ( ! que/1 we h made ?is book1 z a p]sonal recognition ( ! bond ( k9%ip t b9ds all free seek]s1 & z an answ] to ^? vital que/ions :i* all ( u mu/ ask toge!r1 & answ]1 at lea/ 9 sympa?y4 ,,! ,,memb]s ,,alfr$1 my c\s91 n q fifte5 ye>s old :5 ! club 0 begun4 ,9 8 fir/ high s*ool ye>4 ,9 appe>ance1 a "y ,arab *iefta91 d>k1 a?letic & dignifi$4 ,8 "* fulfils ! promise3 he is taciturn1 sl[ to act1 indep5d5t1 s]i\s = 8 age1 & ) a great ?ir/ = k4 ,a lov] ( nature & ! c\ntry2 a hat] ( all ?+s petty or mean4 ,he ent]$ ! club ) a good k ( evolution1 & no religi\s tra9+ ( any sort4 ,,virg9ia1 my c\s91 almo/ sixte5 ye>s old4 ,%e _h "o ye> ( high s*ool1 b z %e w\ld n /udy1 & drew pictures in/ead1 %e 0 s5t to art s*ool a ye> & a half ago1 :]e %e has be5 work+ h>d4 ,%e has read & re-read _m good books4 ,al?\gh %e is ( a blonde1 ,saxon type1 yet h] hair & eyes are v d>k4 ,light-he>t$ & yet e>ne/1 self-satisfi$1 always sweet & lovable4 ,bright1 int]e/$1 orig9al1 humor\s4 ,%e has _h no def9ite religi\s tra9+1 b mu* s\nd religi\s philosophy at home4 ,,flor5ce1 a "y fri5d1 fifte5 ye>s old1 b mu* old] 9 appe>ance4 ,9 h] ?ird high s*ool ye>4 ,l>ge & d>k1 ) gray eyes4 ,%e is vacillat+1 & may turn out to be a f9e1 indep5d5t1 intellig5t & =ceful woman1 or a mat]iali/ic1 flippant society lady4 ,x dep5ds on ! influ5ces br\ght to be>1 & on h] own w4 ,some:at spoil$4 ,a good /ud5t1 a good ?9k]1 b n impell$ to ?9k by any great desire4 ,%e loves danc+ m ?an any?+ else 9 ! _w4 ,%e comes f a home ( mix$ & unc]ta9 piety4 ,,h5ry1 ,flor5ce's c\s91 n q sixte5 ye>s old1 unkn[n to me be=e we =m$ ! club4 ,9 8 second high s*ool ye>4 ,a "y /ud5t1 d>k1 slim1 %y1 ) mu* to say1 b n yet able to say x well4 ,he is r dogmatic1 b op5 to influ5ce1 a born seek]4 ,(t5 appe>+ at fir/ to be sl[1 or commonplace1 he sudd5ly reveals unexpect$ und]/&+ & orig9ality4 ,he comes f a conv5tional home4 ,,m>ian1 ,flor5ce's fri5d1 also unkn[n to me be=e ! club4 ,fifte5 & a half ye>s old4 ,9 h] f\r?--la/--high s*ool ye>1 prep>+ = college4 ,a light brunette ( a languid & yet intellectual type4 ,v intuitive1 ( quick insight1 sympa!tic1 a lov] ( human nature1 %y & quiet4 ,a dream] & a h]o-wor%ip]4 ,%e expresses h]self well1 b (t5 9 brok5 s5t5ces & ) hesitation4 ,h] p>5ts belong to ! ,e?ical ,culture ,society1 & h giv5 h] no religi\s education4 ,,ru?1 ,m>ian's *um1 sixte5 ye>s old1 is also 9 h] la/ high s*ool ye>1 prep>+ to /udy k9d]g>t54 ,a slight1 blonde girl1 tall1 & ) h] "* writt5 9 h] face3 self-possess$1 poise1 idealism4 ,h] voice1 enunciation & language are ^? ( "o tra9$ to speak well4 ,h] ?\ght is unusually develop$1 b along r n>r[ l9es4 ,%e loves *ildr51 & has *os5 h] "w ) an ideali/ic devotion4 ,h] "m is ,*ri/ian1 h] fa!r ,jewi%1 & _! religion is ,*ri/ian ,sci5ce4 ,%e is a conv9c$ ,*ri/ian ,sci5ti/4 ,,fir/ ,,meet+ ,:5 we 7 all ga!r$ ab\t ! table at ?ree o'clock1 ,i op5$ ! discussion ?us3 8,d y rememb] t ,i told y we 7 go+ to speak to-day ( ! fact t !re is almo/ no religion at pres5t1 & ! cause = ?is8 ,n[1 are we all agre$ t !re is v little religion--true religi\s belief--at pres5t80 ,all agre$ to ?is except ,h5ry4 ,he said t he ?\ght p 7 z religi\s z ev]4 8,i ?9k10 said ,flor5ce to ,h5ry1 8t y are confus+ religion & cre$4 ,p belong to *ur*es & temples1 & ?9k !y are religi\s1 b !y don't "k :at !y believe40 ,i saw ,h5ry 0 n conv9c$1 s ,i said to him3 8,i ?9k p]haps we d n mean ! same ?+ by religion1 !re=e we might z well g on1 & speak ( x lat]1 :5 we d und]/&4 8,n[1 ,i believe !re is a def9ite hi/oric reason = our religi\s lack1 & ,i w tell x to y40 ,!n ,i review$ briefly ! hi/ory ( anci5t religions1 ,brahmanism1 ! ,egyptian cre$1 ! ,greek & ! e>ly ,ca?olic religions1 to %[ t all ^! = v>i\s reasons--b *iefly because ( ! ignorance ( ! populace--_h be51 z x 71 d\ble religions4 ,!re 0 an initiat$ religion ( ! prie/s1 :o did inde$ see tru?1 :o 7 mono!i/s ( ! univ]sal vision1 & 7 fill$ ) ! s5se ( unity 9 all ?+s4 ,besides ?is 0 ! religion ( my?s1 ! popul> religion4 ,! p took lit]ally ! poetical tales told by ! prophets2 & ^! prophets1 or prie/s1 ev5 w5t s f> z to deceive ! p purposely1 = :at !y consid]$ ! p's good4 8,i don't see h[ ! prie/s c\ld h kn[n ! tru?10 ,ru? said1 8if !y meant to deceive ! populace4 ,^? :o knew ! tru? w\ld n wi% to deceive40 8,y are "r10 ,i answ]$2 8!y _h n ! :ole tru?1 b 9 s f> z !y saw1 !y saw truly40 ,ru? seem$ to d\bt ?is hi/oric acc\nt4 ,i quietly prov$ to h] & ! o!rs t x 0 true4 ,i read !m a passage f ,plato's 8,republic10 9 :i* he recomm5ds tell+ ! p a my? because belief 9 x w\ld put !m 9 ! prop] frame ( m9d4 ,i w5t on to expla9 h[ ! democratic _s began to de/roy ! religion ( ! initiat$4 ,! ari/ocracy ( religion 0 z mu* res5t$ z ! ari/ocracy ( gov]nm5t4 ,! result 0 t e "o believ$ ! popul>1 my?ical religion2 & t is :at mo/ ( our *ur*es h liv$ ^u s9ce !n4 ,all ! sup]/itions ( cre$s1 ! absurd /ories t are believ$ lit]ally by "s p ev5 to-day1 are ! poetic symbols ( prophets & tea*]s1 accept$ z n>ratives ( fact4 ,next came ! sci5tific _s1 & said3 8,! _w is m ?an six ?\s& ye>s old2 x 0 n creat$ 9 a week2 ! :ale c\ld n h swall[$ ,jonah1 & giv5 him up aga940 ,n[ p cri$ out3 8,religion is n true4 ,we w believe no?+ b sci5ce40 ,:5 ,i spoke ( ! diff]5ce betwe5 my?ical & true religion1 ,i f\nd ! *ildr5 already und]/ood ?is1 t !y realiz$ ,moses' true mean+ :5 he spoke ( ! burn+ bu%2 t !y knew ,jesus1 :5 he spoke ( himself z ! son ( ,god1 meant to express ! div9ity ( man4 ,i said ! true religion spoke 9 poetry1 & ! popul> made its figures ( spee* into gods4 8,= in/ance10 ,i said1 8f :]e comes ! l9e1 #8,! rosy f+]s ( ! dawn'80 8,f ,hom]10 answ]$ ,m>ian1 8f ! ,odyssey40 8,well10 ,i w5t on1 8a p]son read+ t might say1 #8,j ?9k1 ! dawn has f+]s2 !n x mu/ h a h&4'0 8,!n10 said ,virg9ia1 8he w\ld add1 #8,s ! dawn is a woman4'0 ,i said "o might wor%ip an image ( a god1 b if he kept 8 m9d ^u ! va/ div9e unity he w\ld n be an idol wor%ip]4 8,b10 object$ ,h5ry1 8if he did x long en\gh1 he w\ld become an idol wor%ip]40 8,he might10 ,i said1 8b he ne$ n40 ,n[ we came to ! "q ( sci5ce4 ,:at has religion to d ) sci5ce8 ,alfr$ said sci5ce l$ 9 ! same direction1 0 look+ = ! same ?+4 ,h5ry said sci5ce 0 suppos$ to be 9 opposition to religion1 because x de/roy$ h] cre$s4 ,t1 ,i answ]$ him1 seem$ to me a good ?+4 ,virg9ia said %e ?\ght religion & sci5ce 7 almo/ ! same4 ,%e meant t h] sci5tific k ( ! univ]se l$ h] to h] religi\s convictions4 ,flor5ce said %e ?\ght sci5ce & religion 7 altoge!r sep>ate1 _h no?+ to d ) ea* o!r4 ,m>ian said %e did n see h[ sci5ce c\ld help u to religi\s k4 ,b x turns out t %e has read no sci5ce at all1 save :at %e 0 taught 9 s*ool4 ,ru? said t sci5ce 0 ! enemy ( religion1 t two ?+s seek+ 9 a diff]5t way c\ld n possibly bo? rea* ! tru?2 t sci5ce might tell u ( mat]ial facts1 b c\ld n possibly give u ! div9e tru?4 ,i ask$3 8,are y sure mat]ial tru? is n div9e tru?80 ,!n ,i said t ,i myself ?\ght sci5ce 0 ! s]vant ( religion1 t x 0 valuable only 9 s f> z x help$ u to a k ( life--div9e & :ole--7,i said aside to ,ru?7 & t ,i did ?9k x help$ u s4 ,x gave u a s5se ( unity1 ( our relation ) ! :ole _w1 because we knew t ! same law mov$ u & ! />s4 8,n[10 ,i w5t on1 8,m>ian m5tion$ ! o!r day t %e _h he>d p say !y 7 too educat$ to ne$ religion4 ,!y meant !y knew too mu* sci5ce4 ,c sci5ce replace religion80 ,!y all said no4 ,!y saw at once t beh9d e sci5ce 0 ! my/]y1 ! unexpla9$1 & t e sci5ti/ mu/ beg9 ) a philosophy4 ,i said3 8,i h he>d p say t sci5ce disproves immortality40 ,virg9ia answ]$3 8,x does n disprove immortality4 ,x proves1 inde$1 t no?+ ev] is de/roy$40 8,d y ?9k10 ,i ask$1 8t !re is su* a ?+ z absolute religi\s k80 8,yes10 !y said4 8,d y ?9k we c get x8 ,t x is a c]ta9 k80 ,!y answ]$ 8,yes40 8,b10 said ,ru?1 8y w\ld want x prov$40 ,i us$ ! ^w 8fai?10 & ! *ildr5 rightly object$1 because1 !y said1 fai? c\ld be us$ to express ! mo/ sup]/iti\s ( my?ical beliefs4 ,"o mu/ "k4 8,i mean self-evid5t k10 ,i said4 8,if to-day ! prie/s & ! my?s are dead1 if we are to h a democratic religion1 !n ea* "o ( u mu/ be a prophet4 ,we "h to-day1 we sev51 %all f9d ! unansw]able tru?4 ,%all we80 8,yes1 ,i believe s40 8,h[ d we "k t su* tru? is to be rea*$8 ,we d "k c]ta9 ?+s 9 ourselves8 ,we "k ! my/]y is !re8 ,we "k t :i* we call ,god80 8,yes10 !y said4 8,is !re any o!r reason = believ+ t ! tru? c be kn[n80 ,m>ian said3 8,9 pa/ times "s m5 h kn[n x1 we feel c]ta940 8,t is j :at ,i meant1 ,m>ian4 ,su* m51 y mean1 z ,moses & ,jesus80 8,yes40 8,& we "h %all get x4 ,we %all "k4 8,i believe10 ,i said1 8t :5 we h talk$ ev]y?+ ov] we %all "k ! tru?1 & x %all be ! same = ea*40 8,9 fundam5tals1 p]haps10 said ,ru?1 8b n 9 all ?+s40 ,no religion c\ld be ! true religion1 we said1 if x fo/]$ antagonism or bitt]ness t[>d ^? ( ano!r p]suasion4 8,"o w\ld wi% to tea* !m10 said ,m>ian4 8,well1 !n1 :at is ! tru?8 ,we spoke ( ! nature ( #8,god4' ,:at is ,god1 ! some?+ we all "k & _c speak80 ,h5ry said3 8,i c\ld tell bett] :at ,i mean by ,god by say+ :at is n ,god40 ,we tri$ to make him expla94 8,no?+ is n ,god10 said ,virg9ia1 8ev]y?+ is ,god1 good & bad1 too2 & ! bad only seems bad to u1 b really leads to good40 8,ev]y?+ is n ,god10 said ,ru?1 8= ,god is p]fect1 & we are imp]fect1 & are /riv+ = 8 p]fection4 ,imp]fection & all bad ?+s are n ( ,god40 8,:at are !y1 !n80 ,i ask$4 8,surely y d n believe 9 two gods1 l ! ,zoroa/rians1 9 a good & a bad8 ,b ! wise/ ( !m saw t ! two 7 "o40 ,ru? answ]$3 8,i h x at home 9 a book1 h[ evil came into ,god's _w1 al?\gh we are ( him & he is p]fect4 ,i w br+ x next "t4 ,i don't rememb] x40 8,yes1 d br+ x4 ,b ,i believe t z long z we are n p]fect1 ,god is n p]fect40 8,t seems10 answ]$ ,ru?1 8z if we 7 ,god40 8,s we are a "p ( ,god1 :o is ! :ole4 ,any?+ else is un?9kable4 ,& unless we are p]fect1 h[ c ,he be p]fect80 ,! *ildr5 correct$ me1 = ,i _h us$ ! wrong ^w4 8,god mu/ be p]fect10 !y said1 8if we long = t p]fection40 ,virg9ia said3 8,if ! _w is ev] to be p]fect1 !n x is p]fect n[4 ,:atev] %all be is "h n[1 is "h =ev]40 8,y are "r10 ,i answ]$1 8,i %\ld n h us$ t ^w40 ,h5ry said3 8,! apple-tree might be p]fect1 b ! apples might /ill be unripe40 8,yes10 ,i w5t on1 8b ! apple-tree w\ld n be p]fect unless ! apples rip5$40 8,! _w is l a rose-bud10 said ,alfr$4 8,x is p]fect z a bud1 & yet x mu/ op5 & evolve 9 its p]fection40 8,yes10 ,i said1 8or l a sleep] :o awak5s4 8,n[1 !n10 ,i ask$1 8y d all believe 9 progress2 t ! _w *anges & t x *anges 9 a c]ta9 direction80 8,i don't "k10 said ,virg9ia4 8,i believe t ! _w1 t ,god1 mu/ always be ! same1 ev5 ?\gh x *ange40 8,t is true1 & x is a /range p>adoxical tru?1 :i* ,i hope to make y und]/& lat] on1 t all ?+s *ange & progress1 yet are ev] ! same1 ev5 z ! rose-bud t unfolds40 ,we _h tacitly admitt$ t ,god & ! aim ( life /ood = love & unity4 ,once :5 ,h5ry spoke ( ! 8fe>0 ( ,god1 ! o!rs correct$ him4 8,n[10 ,i said1 8if !re is progress1 :at is x80 ,ru? answ]$3 8,!re is progress ( individuals1 n ( ! _w4 ,c]ta9 m5 saw ! tru? z cle>ly 9 old times z !y c\ld n[40 8,i d n believe s10 ,i answ]$ h]4 8,i ?9k ! :ole mu/ evolve & bud =?1 & t x does4 ,n[ y all admit t ,moses 0 a prophet :o saw ! tru?80 ,!y said 8,yes40 8,b he felt enmities4 ,jesus 0 a great] prophet ?an ,moses4 ,9 :at 0 he great]80 8,9 8 realization n only ( ! unity ( ,god1 b ( ! unity & div9ity & love ( man40 8,if ,moses 7 "h to-day10 ,i ask$1 89 :at might he be great] ?an he 0 9 8 own "t80 ,flor5ce said3 8,he w\ld h all ! advantages ( culture s9ce !n40 8,t w\ld n make him great]40 ,m>ian answ]$3 8,y mean ! democracy ( to-day1 ! realization ( ! bro!rhood ( all m540 8,yes10 ,i said1 8t is j :at ,i mean4 ,:5 ,i look at hi/ory1 ,i c see no progress b ?is4 ,automobiles1 electricity1 sci5tific k1 ^! are n progress except z !y lead to t o!r progress4 ,we d und]/& our fell[m5 bett] ?an we ev] did4 ,we c--"s ( u--call e savage our bro!r4 ,t is ! cle> progress ?r\gh\t hi/ory40 ,! *ildr5 7 impress$ by ?is fact4 8,!n y mean10 said ,ru?1 8t univ]sal love is ! object ( life80 8,yes10 ,i said1 8b ,i am afraid to use ! ^w #8love1' = x might mean bl9d love1 & ,i mean und]/&+ love40 8,( c\rse10 said ! *ildr54 8,y mean love ( mank9d80 ask$ ,m>ian4 8,yes10 ,i said1 8b individual love1 too2 & p]haps m ?an bo? ( ^!40 8,i /ill believe10 said ,ru?1 8t progress is only = ! individual1 & t x doesn't matt] :e!r we progress "h or h]eaft]4 ,p]sonal love is selfi%4 ,we want div9e love40 ,i answ]$ h]3 8,i w n speak n[ ( h]eaft]4 ,b "h & n[1 to-day1 d we n want at once ! ?+ t we want80 8,yes10 !y said4 8,!n1 n[ & "h we mean to g =w>d1 z f> z we c1 & n[ & "h we w love m5 ) our might1 because t is ! human way & ! human progress40 8,x does seem to me1 f books10 said ,virg9ia1 8t p are less mean1 selfi% & jeal\s ?an !y 7 a hundr$ ye>s ago40 ,m>ian smil$ ov] to h]4 8,y h be5 read+ ,?ack]ay10 %e said4 8,b10 said ,virg9ia1 8all p are n progress+ toge!r1 = ?\gh we %\ld f9d ! tru? n[1 _m o!rs w n f9d x = a long "t4 ,! _w is l a bun* ( roses1 9 :i* "s are full-bl[n1 & o!rs are small buds40 8,yes10 ,i answ]$ h]2 8& = ! :ole to evolve1 ea* bud mu/ be unfold$ 9 beauty40 ,n[ we said _m ?+s beside ^!1 b ^! 7 ! *ief tr5d & conclusions ( our ?\ght4 ,i also told !m h[ e mom5t 0 a promise & a fulfillm5t1 a /ate ( ! endless :ole4 ,next ,sunday ea* is to tell me :at he or %e does mean by ! ^w 8,god40 ,! *ildr5 7 en?usia/ic1 uplift$1 :ole-he>t$ 9 _! int]e/4 ,virg9ia & ,alfr$1 :o /ay$ "s "t aft] ! o!rs1 _h a long discussion on good & bad1 9 :i* ,i refus$ to jo94 ,virg9ia said %e ?\ght all bad ?+s _h good results1 & c\ld be us$ = good4 ,alfr$ answ]$ he 0 n sure ( t1 b he believ$ bad to be a necess>y "p ( good4 ,he said3 8,if ,i nev] felt ill1 ,i c\ld n "k ,i felt well40 ,virg9ia said3 8,reason made evil1 = :5 creatures became reasonable !y knew t ! ?+s !y _h done be=e 7 wrong40 ,,second ,,meet+ ,i spoke ( ! "n ( our club1 ! ,seek]s4 ,i said t ,i ?\ght x express$ exactly :at we meant to d4 ,ru? answ]$ t to h] x seem$ ! only possible1 natural "n4 ,!n ,i read al\d ,virg9ia's acc\nt ( ! la/ meet+3 8,a great _m p ?9k !mselves too educat$ to believe 9 any ( ! e/abli%$ religions1 & !n don't take ! tr\ble to f9d out :at !y really ?9k & :at _! true religion is4 ,p h a wrong idea ( ! mean+ ( ! ^w #8religi\s4' ,consequ5tly1 z !y don't "k :at x means1 !y _c be x4 ,_m p :o g to *ur* or temple e ,sabba?1 & sleep1 or take note ( ! diff]5t co/umes ( ! congregation dur+ ! s]mon1 consid] !mselves religi\s4 8,we decid$ t we all believ$ 9 ! unity ( ,god4 ,! tru? has always be5 app>5t to "s1 su* z ,moses & ,jesus1 & "s ( ! ,ori5tal prie/s4 ,! two =m] tri$ to give ! true idea to ! p1 b fail$1 z !y 7 too poetical1 & ! p believ$ too lit]ally4 ,! latt] tri$ to keep ! p 9 ignorance1 z x gave !m p[]1 & !y !re=e told ! p :at !y !mselves knew to be untru?s4 8,we diff]$ some:at 9 our idea ( ,god4 ,"s ?\ght he 0 all good & _h no evil4 ,i ?9k he is all good1 b ,i also ?9k t all evil is 81 b t e evil has a good motive & a good end4 8,no idea1 no matt] h[ surpris+ & new x may seem1 is new4 ,x has always be51 al?\gh x has nev] be5 ?\ght4 ,! _w is l a great bun* ( rosebuds1 ea* p]fect z a bud1 b n develop$4 ,e beautiful idea1 :5 x is ?\ght1 is a petal unfold+ & reveal+ m p]fect petals b5ea?4 ,?us "o f9e idea br+s =? ano!r4 8,i ?9k a great _m p d n "k :at !y ?9k4 ,if y ask a p]son belong+ to "o ( ! e/abli%$ religions :at !y believe1 ,i ?9k _! answ] w\ld be vague4 ,=m]ly1 ^! religions 7 v useful1 z !y made p love good4 ,n[ !y prev5t p f ?9k+1 & make !m dep5d5t4 ,!y dep5d on o!rs to make _! beliefs & ?\ghts1 :5 _! bra9s %\ld be1 & probably are1 f]tile en\gh to ?9k = !mselves40 ,i said t 0 j :at ,i want$1 & ,i hop$ to h "o su* pap] ea* week4 ,i said ,i believ$ t aft] we _h spok5 ( ,god1 & decid$ :at we meant1 & all agre$1 we w\ld n (t5 use ! ^w ,god1 because x 0 s ne>ly unspeakable1 s va/ & holy1 t we w\ld take x z a natural backgr\nd to our ?\ght4 8,y "k10 ,i said1 8h[ 9 ! old ,jewi% temples ! "n ( ,god 0 m5tion$ only once a ye>40 8,& !n only by ! prie/10 ,h5ry add$4 8,b if we want to talk ( ,god we %all h to use 8 "n10 said ,ru?4 ,! o!rs seem$ to agree ) h]4 8,! p]sonal significance always cl+s to ! "n ( ,god10 ,m>ian said2 8b :at o!r ^w c "o use80 8,p]haps x w\ld be bett]10 sugge/$ ,h5ry1 8to use "s su* o!r ^w z ,all-p[]ful ,"o40 ,virg9ia said t to h] ! ^w ,god _h no p]sonal significance4 ,ru? ?\ght we might use ! imp]sonal ^w 8,good40 ,i answ]$ h] t e attribute1 ev5 good1 0 limit+1 & ,god 0 limitless4 ,i saw t !y did n 9 ! lea/ und]/& :at ,i meant1 t !y c\ld n until we w5t fur!r4 ,s ,i said3 8,i ?9k t aft] we "k :at we mean by ! ^w ,god1 y w und]/& :y we %all n want1 & n ne$1 to use x40 ,!n ,i ask$ !m :at !y meant by ,god4 ,virg9ia said3 8,god is ! :ole1 good & bad1 only :at seems bad is really good4 ,or ,god is1 r1 e feel+1 e emotion40 ,h5ry said ,god 0 ev]y?+ good1 b t ev]y?+ 0 good1 & bad only seem$ bad to u4 ,alfr$ said3 8,i don't ?9k bad is good1 b ,i ?9k t ,god mu/ be ev]y?+1 anyway40 ,m>ian tri$ to say t ,god is ! va/ unkn[n--some?+1 :i* we "k because we feel x4 ,flor5ce said3 8,i spoke to bro!r ,ar?ur ab\t x1 & ,i n[ ?9k t ,god is sympa?y2 t is1 sympa?y & und]/&+ ( our fell[-m52 & z we rea* t1 we get to ,god40 ,! o!rs 7 surpris$ & />tl$ by ?is explanation4 ,i said ,i knew :at ,flor5ce meant1 b t %e _h n be5 able to express x cle>ly4 ,!n ,ru? said t %e agre$ ) ,h5ry4 ,%e call$ ,god _s4 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8if we take _s to mean ev]y?+4 ,= we "k no?+ except ?r\gh our s5ses1 our consci\sness1 our und]/&+2 s t all we "k is k ( _s40 ,!y all agre$ to t4 8,n[10 ,i said1 8,i believe ,god to be 9 ea* ( u1 to be ! self )9 u1 & )9 all o!rs1 & )9 ! univ]se2 to be ! k1 ! light & ! und]/&+4 ,i c expla9 to y :at ,i mean by read+ a passage f ! ,indian ,v$as1 :i* seems to me s true1 & s exactly :at ,i want to say1 t ,i c\ld n expla9 x s well myself40 ,!n ,i read ! foll[+3 8,9 ! beg9n+ 0 ,self alone4 ,atman is ! ,self 9 all our selves--! ,div9e ,self conceal$ by 8 own qualities4 ,?is ,self !y sometimes call ! ,undevelop$4 4 4 4 ,! g5]ation ( ,brahma 0 be=e all ages1 unfold+ himself ev]more 9 a beautiful glory2 ev]y?+ :i* is highe/ & ev]y?+ :i* is deepe/ belongs to him4 ,be+ & n be+ are unveil$ ?r\gh ,brahma4 4 4 4 ,h[ c any "o tea* conc]n+ ,brahma8 ,he is nei!r ! kn[n nor ! unkn[n4 ,t :i* _c be express$ by words1 b ?r\gh :i* all expression comes1 ?is ,i "k to be ,brahma4 ,t :i* _c be ?\ght by ! m9d1 b by :i* all ?9k+ comes1 ?is ,i "k is ,brahma4 ,t :i* _c be se5 by ! eye1 b by :i* ! eye sees1 is ,brahma40 ,!y lik$ ?is s well1 & said x express$ _! feel+s s truly1 t ,i (f]$ to copy x = ea* "o ( !m4 ,m>ian said %e did n und]/& :at 0 meant by 8conceal$ by 8 own qualities40 ,i answ]$3 8,we "k ,god only because ( ! univ]se :i* we see & feel40 8,yes10 %e said4 8,b j t ! univ]se10 ,i w5t on1 8conceals ,god1 is a my/]y z well z a revelation40 8,i don't q und]/&10 said ,m>ian4 8,x is l a great light10 ,i said1 8:i* is s bright t x dazzles y1 & y _c look at x40 8,l ! sun10 said ,virg9ia4 8,i ?9k ,i see :at y mean10 ,m>ian answ]$4 ,i cont9u$3 8,moses spoke ( ,god 9 t same way1 z ! va/ ,self3 #8,& ,god said unto ,moses1 ,i ,am ,t ,i ,am2 & he said1 ,?us %alt ?\ say unto ! *ildr5 ( ,israel1 ,i ,am ha? s5t me unto y4' 8,& s10 ,i w5t on1 8myself & y\rself1 ! self ( e man & ! self ( ! univ]se1 t is ,god40 ,) delightful frankness !y said t !y lik$ x bett] z x 0 put 9 8t ?+ on ,brahma40 8,s d ,i10 ,i answ]$4 8,we "k only self4 ,is x n s80 8,i don't l ! ^w #8self1'0 said ,ru?2 8x is too limit$4 ,i ?9k only ( my little self40 ,m>ian agre$4 ,virg9ia said t to h] x seem$ ! true ^w1 t %e felt ! :ole z a va/ self4 8,b isn't x m80 %e ask$4 8,god is feel+4 ,:5 ,i ride 9 an op5 trolley1 & ! w9d bl[s 9 my face1 & ! trees bl[1 & ! cl\ds move 9 ! sky1 !n ! feel+ t x gives me ,i call ,god40 8,isn't x self1 )9 y\rself80 ,i ask$4 8,yes1 x is10 %e answ]$4 8,n[10 ,i said1 8we are little1 incomplete1 limit$ creatures1 b we ne$ ! :ole univ]se to be complete4 ,! :ole univ]se is ! re/ ( self1 ! re/ ( myself4 ,t is :at ,i mean by ,god1 & 9 t s5se ,i am a "p ( ,god40 ,all ! *ildr5 agre$ at once1 z if ?is 7 ! ?+ !y _h want$ to he> said4 ,?is fir/ def9ite /atem5t t ,i made seem$ to u all unansw]ably true4 ,imm$iately !y w5t on to speak ( good & bad2 b ,i /opp$ !m1 ?us3 8,!re is "o o!r ?+ ,i w\ld l to make cle> fir/1 a hi/oric "q1 b "o t leads to ! "q ( good & bad4 ,:at did ! mo/ illum9$ & inspir$ poly!i/s mean by _! _m gods80 ,m>ian answ]$3 8,!y meant _m aspects ( ! "o ,god40 8,j s1 ,m>ian4 ,b n[ d y "k ! inn] mean+ ( ,tr9ity80 ,none ( !m knew1 & all seem$ p>ticul>ly int]e/$ & anxi\s to und]/&4 8,i nev] und]/ood10 said ,m>ian1 8:at 0 meant by ! ,holy ,gho/40 ,i said to !m3 8,i w tell y :at x has always meant to me1 & to "s o!rs beside me1 & y c see :e!r x seems true to y4 ,to me ! ?ree are z p>ts ( "o4 ,!y are ! contra/1 su* z man & ,god1 good & bad1 ev5 night & day1 & ! und]/&+1 ! unity t makes ^! two "o40 ,?is ne$$ mu* explanation4 ,x 0 all summ$ up ?us3 ,! ?ree 9 "o--! triangle ) ?ree sides1 :i* is /ill "o--are3 ,myself1 ! o!r self1 :i* ,i love & ne$ = my completion1 & ! love & und]/&+ :i* pass betwe5 u & make u "o4 ,virg9ia said t %e nev] ?\ght ( h]self & ! o!r self1 t to h] !y 7 "o4 ,! idea 0 v new to !m all1 & did n at once conv9ce !m4 8,n[10 ,i said1 8we see1 h[ev]1 t opposites are really "o2 & s ,i believe t good & bad are p>ts ( ! same ?+4 ,i believe t ev]y?+ call$ bad is ! price ( go+ =w>d1 ( progress1 t bad ?+s are made by good ?+s4 ,suppose t ! _w 7 9 utt] d>kness1 t no light 7 any:]e1 !n !re w\ld be no d>kness1 ei!r4 ,b ! fir/ flame ( light w\ld create ! d>kness40 ,z ,i develop$ ?is idea1 ! *ildr5 said v little1 only ask+ me que/ions1 until ,i _h f9i%$4 ,?is is h[ ,i expla9$ x3 ,we all believe--we sev5 "h--t ! good is und]/&+1 love1 ! complete ,div9e ,self1 & ev]y?+ :i* leads !reto is good4 ,!n ev]y?+ bad is t :i* does n lead !reto2 or1 r1 t is call$ bad :i* has n gone s f> z ! re/4 ,s t ! bad is n an actual /ate--9 ?is ,i agree ) ,ru?--b is a condition ( good4 ,all pa9s are gr[+ pa9s4 ,?+s are bad only because we already h some?+ bett]4 ,! o!r day ,i he>d ,virg9ia say+ t :5 reason came into ! _w1 creatures fir/ knew ! bad2 because !y saw t ! life !y _h liv$ 0 a bad life4 ,s1 y see1 ev]y?+ bad is some?+ :i* we feel to be beh9d u1 n equal to our be/ k4 ,pa9 & badness are ! price ( progress1 & we w\ld r g =w>d & suff] ?an /& /ill & be com=table4 ,we long to g =w>d to ! good1 to ! va/ self ( complete und]/&+4 8,a crim9al10 ,i said1 8may be a man :o w\ld h be5 good if he _h liv$ 9 savage times among savages1 b at pres5t he is bad because we are ahead ( him40 8,!n a bad man10 said ,h5ry1 8is "o :o is beh9d 8 times1 or else ahead ( !m40 8,oh1 no10 !y prote/$1 8n ahead ( !m60 8,no10 ,i answ]$1 8b ! man ahead ( 8 "t1 :o is bett] ?an 8 "t1 may appe> to be a crim9al4 ,y mu/ see t ! man :o believes 9 ! et]nal good1 :o kn[s t he is go+ t[>d unity & complete love1 is 9 a s5se above ! human law1 & mu/ discov] 8 own laws4 ,he may be a crim9al 9 ! eyes ( o!rs40 8,give u an example10 !y said4 8,jesus is "o example4 ,he 0 crucifi$ z a crim9al40 8,because10 said ,h5ry1 8he broke ! ,roman law4 ,he refus$ to wor%ip _! images1 & he call$ himself ,k+ ( ! ,jews40 8,& !y did n "k10 ,i answ]$1 89 :at s5se he call$ himself ,k+1 s !y _h to crucify him z a traitor4 ,c't y ?9k ( "s o!r example8 ,( c\rse1 !re 7 all ! h]etics ( old times40 ,alfr$ & ,h5ry said t ,roosevelt 0 9 a s5se an example1 because he _h be5 mu* blam$ = expos+ ! tru? & hurt+ bus9ess2 b t ! hurt 0 an ess5tial "p ( progress & good4 ,ru? said3 8,surely x is bett] to expose ! tru? & suff] = x1 ?an to g on 9 falsehood40 ,i gave z ano!r example ! ,russians1 ) :om1 a %ort "t ago1 x 0 a crime to educate ! peasants2 & ,i told h[ brave m5 & wom5 _h be5 s5t to ,sib]ia = break+ ! law 9 ?is respect4 8,b10 ,i said1 8?is is a dang]\s subject1 & truly1 we ought n to h m5tion$ x until we c\ld probe x to ! bottom4 ,= surely 9 a democratic /ate "o ( ! ess5tial inn] laws is t we %all obey ! law :i* our fell[s h made40 8,if a law seems wrong to a man10 said ,h5ry1 8he c try to *ange x1 b meantime he mu/ obey x4 ,= in/ance1 a man might believe 9 free trade1 b /ill he w\ld h no "r to smuggle 9 goods40 8,"o ought to obey s*ool-laws1 ,i suppose10 said ,m>ian4 8,surely10 ,i answ]$1 8= ! s*ool is an in/itution y ent] f *oice1 & if y don't l ! laws y c prote/ by leav+4 ,b if !re 7 a law unju/ to y\r fell[s1 y w\ld disobey x4 ,/ill1 ev5 !n1 ! be/ way to prote/ w\ld be by a /rike ( ! /ud5ts40 ,!y _h a long discussion on ! great crime ( :isp]+ 9 s*ool1 9 :i* ,i sc>cely jo9$1 z ,i refuse to be a petty prea*] to !m4 ,b ,i tri$ to expla9 to !m :y x 0 s h>d = !m to obey ^! little laws4 8,x is10 ,i said1 8because y did n help to make ! laws y\rselves1 t y are tempt$ to break !m out ( m]e mis*ief4 ,/ill1 y w\ld n lie ab\t x1 b r d x op5ly1 because y feel t tru? betwe5 individuals is an inn] law1 ! fir/ /ep t[>d und]/&+4 ,y "k ,i believe t1 ev5 unconsci\sly1 we h all always /riv5 = ?is unity1 ?is complet5ess t n[ we are go+ to /rive = ) op5 eyes40 8,& all bad leads 9 ! same direction1 & comes to good10 said ,virg9ia4 8,n[ ,i want y to und]/& t cle>ly10 ,i said4 8,all bad ?+s are bad only because !y d n rea* up to our idea ( ! be/4 ,b t bad ?+s are turn$ to good1 or us$ = good is because we use !m s2 because ! desire & ! /riv+ = good is s /rong )9 u1 t we use !m to fulfil t desire4 ,x is n a necessity4 ,x is a matt] ( *oice4 ,if we wi%1 we c use ev]y?+ = good4 ,& we (t5 d s1 ev5 unconsci\sly4 ,ev]y?+ /rives t[>d t good1 :i* is life itself40 8,!n y believe10 said ,m>ian1 8t ev5 e crim9al has "s good 9 him80 8,yes1 surely10 ,i answ]$1 8else he w\ld n be "h1 alive1 at all4 ,e liv+ be+ is good2 & if he is n s f> z we at pres5t1 he may g f>!r ?an we "s day4 ,surely1 we w take him onw>d ) u1 else we _c be complete4 ,y mu/ see t any "o :o believes ! great good to be und]/&+ love & unity1 _c be made :ole till e "o is made :ole ) him4 ,he ne$s all ! _w40 8,e "o mu/ feel t10 said ,m>ian4 8,! o!r day1 ,m>ian10 ,i w5t on1 8y said3 #8,if we c nev] rea* ! goal1 :at is ! good ( any?+8' ,n[1 ,i1 = "o1 believe 9 inf9ite good2 ,i believe t no matt] h[ f> we g1 we %all long to g f>!r1 s t :at n[ w\ld seem unimag9ably good to u might "o day seem bad4 ,c y imag9e /agnant p]fection80 8,i ?9k10 said ,m>ian1 8t a p]fectly good _w w\ld be t]ribly monoton\s40 8,t is :at ,i ?9k1 too10 ,i answ]$4 8,:at we love is ! go+ =w>d1 ! a*iev+1 ! /riv+40 ,h5ry said3 8,x is l travell+ t[>d ! horizon1 & we ?9k t is ! end4 ,b :5 we rea* x1 we see ano!r horizon40 ,ru? ask$3 8,h[ c we /rive = any?+1 if we don't expect to rea* x8 ,is n ,god :at we long to rea*8 ,is n ,god ! ideal80 8,is n ,god1 ! real1 "h1 n[80 ,i answ]$ h]4 8,i _c und]/& ,inf9ity or ,et]nity1 s ,i say ,inf9ity is "h & ,et]nity is n[1 because ,i am always "h & n[4 ,s ,i _c und]/& inf9ite good & unity1 b ,i "k t "h & n[ ,i mu/ /rive = x1 & t ! con/ant /riv+1 & gett+ m & ev] m1 is my greate/ joy4 ,n[1 ,ru?1 d y admit t we _c g =w>d alone1 t all mu/ g toge!r to be complete80 8,yes40 8,!n ! :ole is "o1 & e man & creature is a "p ( me40 8,if e "o believ$ t10 said ,m>ian1 8h[ diff]5t1 h[ mu* bett] ! _w w\ld be6 ,p c\ld n criticize ea* o!r40 8,i ?9k x w\ld10 ,i said1 8& ,i am glad y ?9k s1 too2 = if e "o believ$ t1 no "o c\ld condemn ano!r1 any m ?an y c\ld condemn y\r own sore f+]4 ,y might say3 #8,my f+] is sore1' b y w\ldn't say3 #8,my f+] is v wick$1 & ,i hate x4'0 8,i believe t10 said ,m>ian4 8,i am conv9c$ m5tally1 b ,i don't feel x4 ,i don't ?9k t ,i c\ld live x yet40 ,virg9ia ask$ :e!r %e might say = u 8,ab\ b5 ,adhem10 :i* express$ our idea ( man & ,god4 ,& %e said x = u4 ,we 7 all sil5t = a few mom5ts4 ,!n ,i said3 8,& ! love ( ev5 m ?an man1 ( all creatures1 ( all ! _w40 ,m>ian admitt$ t %e did n love animals4 ,ru? said %e did4 ,m>ian seems di/ress$ by ! fact t %e _c be p]fect at once4 ,t is :at %e means :5 %e says %e is m5tally conv9c$1 b doesn't feel x yet4 ,alfr$ feels ! same lack4 ,^! ambiti\s *ildr56 8,n[10 ,i said1 8,i want y to feel c]ta9 & conv9c$ ( ea* ?+ z we g on4 ,we all agree at pres5t1 don't we80 8,yes10 !y answ]$4 8,i feel z if some?+ mu/ be wrong1 because we all agree10 ,i w5t on1 8& yet ,i "k y are indep5d5t ?9k]s4 ,are y sure t all bad is a condition ( good1 ev5 all physical bad1 su* ?+s z accid5ts & loss8 ,= in/ance1 railroads are ( value--:y80 ,none knew ! true reason b ,ru?4 ,%e said !y br\ght nations toge!r4 8,& ! accid5ts on railroads10 ,i said1 8are ! price ( t progress1 a price we h to pay = p]fect+ t sy/em4 ,x w\ld be bett] to avoid all accid5ts--z ,i hope we %all d "o day--b1 mean:ile1 we w\ld r take ! risk ?an n h railroads4 ,no "o c be conv9c$1 h[ev]1 t all bad is a condition ( good1 until tri$40 8,i h be5 tri$10 answ]$ ,virg9ia4 ,!y all ?\ght !mselves conv9c$1 except ,alfr$4 ,he said3 8,x might be true n9e times1 b ! t5? "t x might n be true40 8,!n10 said ,h5ry1 8y w\ld believe x 7 true ! t5? "t1 ev5 ?\gh y didn't und]/& h[40 8,no10 ,i answ]$2 8he w\ld te/ x ! t5? "t4 ,we w "k ea* ?+40 ,n[ we re-exam9$ our conviction on all ^! que/ions1 & w5t ov] ea* po9t aga94 ,we prob$ ! possibilities ( a!ism1 & saw t no "o :o fac$ ?+s c\ld be an a!i/1 t a!ism 0 ! result ( laz9ess1 fe> or vanity4 ,ei!r a man fe>$ to face ! tru?1 or c\ld n be> to admit h[ little he knew4 ,& we saw t an a!i/ might be a v good man1 only he w\ld build 8 morality on a philosophy he did n und]/& or exam9e4 ,we might be good )\t any religi\s convictions1 b ?is conviction1 ?is belief1 w\ld give u a reason = goodness1 & make u /rong 9 ! face ( unc]ta9ty1 temptation & trial4 ,h5ry said ?+s 7 wor? :ile only :5 !y 7 h>d to d4 8,!re10 said ,i1 8y h a pro( ( our in/9ctive feel+ t pa9 is a necess>y "p ( progress40 ,virg9ia said %e want$ to believe :at w\ld make h] happy2 t %e w\ld *oose ! optimi/ic fai?4 ,i answ]$ h] ,i want$ to believe ! tru?1 happy or unhappy1 b ,i _h come to ! conclusion at la/ t ! tru? 0 v good4 ,i told !m h[ at _! age ,i _h be5 9 great d\bt1 h[ ,i _h ?\ght ! tru? might be v bad4 8,pa9 is real10 ,i said1 8b we w n fe> to face t1 or any?+ bitt]1 :5 we "k x to be a condition ( go+ onw>d40 ,virg9ia said ,i 0 %ap+ h] ?\ght = h]4 ,i rem9d$ h] h[ %e us$ to be my 8little disciple40 ,all ! o!rs1 & especially ,m>ian1 said t ?is meet+ 0 f> m satisfy+ ?an ! la/2 t we _h rea*$ some?+ def9ite4 ,m>ian said3 8,i seem to see already :at we w h to say on e subject1 b we %all h no end ( ?+s to speak (40 ,,?ird ,,meet+ ,flor5ce & ,h5ry 7 delay$ & did n arrive until aft] f\r4 ,b be=e t we _h already ga!r$ ab\t ! table1 & f\nd x h>d to re/ra9 ourselves f beg9n+ ! discussion4 ,i said to ! *ildr5 t ,i ?\ght we w\ld n speak ( immortality to-day1 z !re 0 too mu* t came be=e4 ,i ask$ !m :e!r !y 7 anxi\s to get to x4 ,!y 7 v anxi\s4 ,flor5ce said3 8,x is su* an important subject40 ,ru? said3 8,i believe we w all agree on immortality40 ,i answ]$ h] t j !re ,i ?\ght we might disagree mo/4 ,m>ian said %e _h def9ite ideas on ! subject4 ,i c see t ,h5ry has indef9ite & !ological ideas4 ,i !n read al\d ! little pap] ,m>ian _h writt5 on our talk ( ! previ\s week3 8,on ,sunday1 ,octob] #ah?1 our club1 ! ,seek]s1 held its second meet+4 ,we fir/ discuss$ our ideas ( ,god4 ,we rea*$ ! conclusion t ,god is our div9e self1 t ?r\gh ,god we c p]ceive1 b we _c p]ceive ,god4 ,?is seems to me a v beautiful idea4 ,i ?9k our discussion on ?is subject 0 p>ticul>ly nice1 because we did n try to limit ,god by any attributes1 = he is inf9ite4 ,we also discuss$ progress4 ,i und]/ood x mu* bett] ?is week ?an la/4 ,! aim ( progress is to rea* a cle> und]/&+ ( our fell[-be+s2 we hope t1 sometime1 !re w be sympa?y & und]/&+ among all m51 = we ea* h a div9e self1 :i* w n rea* p]fection until x is 9 p]fect accord ) all ! o!r p's4 ,we discuss$ good & evil1 & decid$ t evil is t :i* we outgr[1 & :i* might once h seem$ good1 b :i* n[ seems bad because we h f\nd some?+ bett]4 ,good is ! progress t we are mak+ t[>d our goal ( common und]/&+4 ,unhapp9ess & accid5ts1 etc41 are incid5tal to progress1 & w occur less & less frequ5tly4 ,i enjoy$ ?is meet+ ( ! club v mu*40 ,we n[ review$ all ! conclusions we _h rea*$4 ,!n ,i 0 glad to h !m speak once m ( good & bad1 & ask _m que/ions4 ,ru? said %e 0 n sure ( be+ conv9c$4 ,%e said3 8,i talk$ x ov] ) "m4 ,x seems to me ,i sometimes put my ?\ght into y\r words1 & imag9e y h said :at ,i mean1 :5 p]haps y hav5't4 ,please repeat t aga91 ab\t good & bad40 ,ru? is always afraid %e may be weak5+ 9 h] own ideas1 & tries n to be conv9c$4 ,i /rove to impress ^u h] t my idea might include h]s4 ,i said3 8,y see n[ t ! ?\ght ,i want to give y is an unansw]able religion1 :i* is n new1 b l>g] ?an all ! old beliefs40 ,m>ian ask$3 8,l>ge en\gh to include !m all80 8,yes1 j t4 ,did y ev] ?9k ( ! old ^w1 hol9ess1 h-o-l-i-n-e-s-s8 ,i "k ano!r ^w t to u w\ld mean hol9ess1 a diff]5t hol9ess40 8,y mean w-h-o-l-e80 said ,m>ian4 8,yes1 to be :ole & complete40 ,n[ z we spoke aga9 ( good & bad1 we came ^u ! int]e/+ "q ( disease4 8,h[ c t be expla9$ z a "p ( progress80 ask$ ,m>ian4 ,virg9ia1 ) h] usual misconception on ?is subject1 said t disease help$ u =w>d because ?r\gh x sci5ti/s came to "k & und]/& _m ?+s ab\t life4 ,h5ry1 /ill m (f ! track1 said t disease l$ to a k ( m$ic9e4 8,h5ry's idea10 ,i answ]$1 8we _c consid]1 because1 ( c\rse1 ! only virtue ( m$ical skill is t x cures disease1 & if !re 7 n disease we w\ld n ne$ m$ical progress4 ,b ,virg9ia's idea is true 9 a c]ta9 s5se4 ,x is q true t disease impell$ p to use ! microscope1 to discov] !mselves physically1 to le>n ( ! inf9itude ( m9ute creatures 9 ! univ]se2 & s x l$ to a l>g] k ( life1 because ! inf9itely little makes our _w j z va/ z ! inf9itely big4 ,b ?is only %[s t we made progress out ( disease1 z we make progress out ( all ?+s1 because ! w ( life1 ! w to g =w>d1 is )9 u4 ,x does n %[ h[ disease itself c be ! result or price ( progress4 ,t is a difficult "q1 b ,i seem to see x cle>ly1 & ,i w try to expla9 x to y4 ,none ( y1 except p]haps ,virg9ia & ,alfr$1 h a cle> idea ( evolution1 & ,i w\ld l to sp5d "o meet+ 9 expla9+ x1 because x is s ess5tial4 ,don't y ?9k s80 8,yes10 !y said4 8,b ,i c't g into ?is "q ( disease )\t expla9+ some?+ ( evolution to y n[4 ,i w try to make x cle>3 ,ea* individual is diff]5t4 ,z animals progress$ & w5t =w>d1 ^? p>ts :i* 7 newe/ 7 also m un/able1 because !y 7 ready to *ange m4 ,^! p>ts 7 mo/ apt to become diseas$1 or1 r1 weak5$1 because progress might be 9 any direction1 & _h to feel its way40 ,x 0 difficult = me to expla9 ?is to ! *ildr51 :o 7 s utt]ly unprep>$1 & ,i said mu* m4 ,ev5 s1 ,i don't ?9k ,m>ian & ,ru? und]/ood x ?or\ghly1 & ,i %all h to repeat x :5 we speak ( evolution4 ,i said ,i did n believe ! g]ms ( disease ev] ent]$ any "p unless t "p 7 weak5$ or imp]fect4 ,i said3 8,take z an example ! human bra94 ,suppose t two *ildr5 7 born ) bra9s slightly diff]5t f o!rs4 ,"o might turn out to be a g5ius1 & ! o!r to be ecc5tric & ev5 insane1 because progress feels its way 9 all directions4 ,s disease1 com+ to ! new un/able p>ts1 w\ld be ! necess>y co/ ( progress40 ,virg9ia said3 8,"y & new ?+s are always mo/ delicate4 ,i _h a palm ) _m leaves1 & "o 0 new4 ,n[1 ! palm 0 left = a day aga9/ ! w9d[ pane1 & ! "y leaf di$ f ! pressure ( ! glass1 :i* did n at all hurt ! old leaves40 ,?is poetical & delightful little figure ( spee* made me wond] :e!r ,virg9ia und]/ood j :at ,i meant4 ,we w5t ov] ! "q ( good & bad1 to ,ru?'s satisfaction4 ,& !n ,i ask$ ,h5ry1 ^: und]/&+ ( x ,i d\bt$1 to tell me 9 :at ?ree ways ! bad 0 a "p ( good & progress4 ,8 answ] 0 cle> & true3 8,!re is ! bad1 :i* is only bad because we n[ possess or "k some?+ bett]1 ! old good we h left beh9d u4 ,!n !re is ! bad :i* is ! direct result ( progress & gr[?1 su* z accid5ts & disease4 ,!n !re is ! use ( bad :i* we make1 to turn x into good1 su* z ! k we get f x1 &1 z ,virg9ia said be=e1 ! sympa?y & love :i* gr[ out ( mis=tune40 8,n[10 ,i said1 8,i w\ld l "s ( y to tell me :at y mean by ^? two words1 matt] & _s40 ,h5ry1 ,virg9ia & ,ru? 7 ! only ones ready to answ]4 ,h5ry said t _s is ! s\l4 ,he quot$ f a ,sunday-s*ool =mula3 8,! _s ( man is 9 ! image ( ,god1 & immortal40 ,i said t ^? words did n mean any?+ def9ite to me4 ,!y might be true1 b ,i did n und]/& !m4 ,ru? said %e did1 & x 0 :at %e meant2 t matt] 01 l ! bad1 some?+ to be ov]come & left beh9d4 8,i ?9k10 said ,virg9ia1 8t matt] is ! tool ( _s2 ! body is ! s]vant ( ! m9d40 ,!y began to argue1 b ,i /opp$ !m1 say+3 8,i w fir/ tell y :at ,i ?9k4 ,is !re any matt] )\t =m8 ,has n all matt] =m1 & is x n1 !re=e1 z x 71 some?+ l an idea 9 ! m9d80 ,h5ry want$ to d5y ?is1 b ?\ght a mom5t1 & admitt$ t all matt] _h "s =m4 ,i w5t on3 8,i am a _s1 t is1 a self2 & ,i "k ?+s only 9 my _s1 because ,i see1 he>1 t\* !m4 ,s ,i don't believe 9 matt]1 s call$1 at all4 ,i ?9k t our =ms1 our bodies1 & all =ms 9 ! univ]se are an expression ( _s or self40 ,i said expression 0 ! means = rea*+ unity1 t creatures c\ld n come toge!r unless !y express$ !mselves to ea* o!r1 & t ,i believ$ all expression 0 = ?is purpose4 ,i said1 :at is call$ matt]1 ! mat]ial conditions ( life1 are ! result ( ! action ( _s2 our bodies1 :i* seem s solid & mat]ial1 are con/antly *ang$1 are n at all ! same z matt]1 b only 9 =m2 we are reborn ea* day accord+ to ! _s4 ,i said t 9 ?is s5se matt]1 s-call$1 0 inde$ some?+ we 7 con/antly leav+ beh9d u1 t e mat]ial condition 0 ! result ( a previ\s /ate ( m9d4 ,?is is true ( all human ?+s1 & we _c help ?9k+ x is true ( univ]sal ?+s4 ,we "k t fire burns1 t planets :irl ?r\gh space1 t wat] runs1 & we _c help feel+ ^! expressions ( =ce to be ! expression ( some?+ ak9 to w & _s4 ,virg9ia said1 !n !re mu/ be some?+ mu* m ?an human sympa?y & und]/&+1 :i* we long to rea*4 ,i answ]$1 ,i believ$ s1 b ,i _h n want$ to sugge/ x to !m4 ,i said t all our pres5t bodily conditions1 ! seem+ly unalt]able conditions call$ mat]ial1 7 ! expression ( w & _s 9 ! pa/1 ei!r ( ours or o!rs2 t our v exi/5ce "h1 ! exi/5ce ( ev]y?+1 0 ! result ( w & desire4 ,m>ian said3 8,i don't ?9k x is j t we %\ld suff] & be1 because ( ano!r's w & _s40 ,virg9ia answ]$3 8,x is fair4 ,we are "p ( ! :ole40 8,t is s10 said ,m>ian4 8,( c\rse40 ,x 0 a full & suffici5t answ]4 ,i said ,i believ$ t disease c\ld be prev5t$1 ev5 if n cur$1 by ?\ght1 because w & desire controll$ ! body4 ,i said3 8,we h our own de/9y 9 our h&s1 we are free to d z we *oose ) ! future1 because w %apes ev]y?+40 ,i 0 delight$ to f9d t ! *ildr5 _h nev] he>d ! silly discussions ab\t free w1 & did n h to h t bugbe> driv5 out4 ,i said3 8,we are a "p ( ! w ( life40 ,z ano!r illu/ration ( idea com+ be=e =m1 ,i spoke ( plants & se$s1 h[ 9 ! se$ is ! possibility1 ! idea ( an inf9ity ( trees4 ,virg9ia said3 8,9 !m _s seems to be asleep1 = x mu/ be !re40 ,%e said all ?+s slept sometimes1 & :ile !y slept ! _s work$ 9 !m4 ,ru? 0 n 9 ! lea/ conv9c$4 ,inde$1 ! ?+ 0 n ov]cle>4 ,%e said3 8,i /ill ?9k matt] is some?+ to be ov]come1 some?+ t b9ds u4 ,surely we w sometime be spirits )\t matt]1 altoge!r spiritual40 ,i tri$ to %[ !m t _s )\t expression w\ld be un?9kable1 t ?\gh expression might n be :at we call matt]1 x w\ld /ill be "s expression4 ,i said3 8,expression frees u40 ,t 0 puzzl+1 & ne$$ m explanation4 ,i ask$ ,h5ry3 8,:at is ! object & aim ( life80 ,he answ]$ vaguely3 8,i suppose x is _s40 8,n[1 :at d y mean by t80 ,i ask$4 ,he answ]$3 8,i suppose we don't "k :at x is until we rea* ! tru?40 ,evid5tly he did n1 b all ! o!rs did4 ,!y all spoke at once to expla9 to him t ! object ( life 0 complete und]/&+ & love4 ,i said3 8,t is :at expression is to get = u1 = we express ourselves 9 =m & ?\ght1 s t we may und]/& & be und]/ood4 ,& t is :at ,i meant by fre$om4 ,i meant und]/&+1 love & p]fect adju/m5t4 ,9 "o s5se matt] is b9d+1 because we want m fre$om4 ,matt]1 s call$1 is ! physical condition :i* our w made 9 ! pa/1 & :i* we want already to surpass4 ,suppose t a man wrote a book 9 :i* he put all 8 ideas1 & t :5 he f9i%$ ! book he 0 =bidd5 to write or speak aga92 8 ideas w\ld gr[ aft]w>d1 & z he c\ld n express !m1 he w\ld ?9k himself limit$ & b\nd by ! book he _h writt54 ,s mat]ial conditions are b9d+ only because we want /ill m fre$om1 ?\gh !y !mselves 7 fre$om at ! "t ( _! creation4 ,9 t s5se1 ,ru?1 y might call ! body some?+ :i* ! _s con/antly wants to leave beh9d1 because x is creat+ new =ms = itself40 ,m>ian said3 8,x is z if !re 7 a h\se ) _m rooms1 & we ?\ght we want$ to g only into ! fir/2 b ea* door made u long = ! next room1 & ! next1 s t we c\ld nev] be satisfi$40 8,& if "o door 7 lock$10 ,i said1 8we w\ld consid] ourselves sadly b\nd1 ?\gh we _h ?\ght we wi%$ to g only s f>4 ,suppose a man made a /atue1 t /atue w\ld be an expression ( 8 _s4 ,b if ! next in/ant he want$ to *ange x1 to make1 say1 ! l9es ( ! arm m p]fect1 he c\ld n d s by will+4 ,he w\ld h to make a new /atue40 8,b t is diff]5t10 said ,ru?4 8,! /uff he works 9 is /ill matt]40 ,i tri$ to expla9 h[ all creation is an int]-*ange ( =m1 a fl[+ & influ5ce4 ,i tri$ to %[ !m h[ all ?+s :atsoev]1 ev5 ?\ghts1 are =ms1 & all =m an expression4 ,virg9ia said3 8,^? :o write books1 or d any great "w1 are immortal 9 t1 because ( _! influ5ce40 ,i answ]$ h] t all ( u 7 immortal 9 ?is s5se1 t ea* ?+ _h endless influ5ce4 ,m>ian ask$ ! "o unansw]able "q1 & ,i 0 delight$4 ,%e said3 8,:y 0 ! ,div9e ,self ev] divid$8 ,h[ did we ev] happ5 to ne$ bodies & expression8 ,:y did x n all gr[ toge!r80 ,%e saw t contra/ 0 ne$$ = recognition4 ,b :y1 %e wond]$1 0 any?+ at all8 ,i answ]$ h]3 8,we said ! o!r day t x did n matt] :e!r ! se>* = good 7 inf9ite or n4 ,nei!r does x conc]n u to "k ! unkn[able1 :e!r or h[ ! awak+ _w began4 ,b we d "k x is awak5+1 :at is ! direction1 :at is ! aim & desire ( life4 ,to me no m seems ne$$4 ,we "k h[ to g =w>d40 8,t is true10 %e said4 ,%e spoke ( old age & m5tal decay4 ,%e said %e did n see :y p lo/1 = no reason1 ! progress !y seem$ to h made4 ,i answ]$ h] t ,i did n ?9k !y lo/ x1 unless !y did n try to keep x2 t x is a ?+ "o mu/ "w = at ea* mom5t4 8,b :y d !y /op try+80 %e ask$4 8,i don't ?9k !y /op10 ,i said4 8,i ?9k !y nev] did try1 b 9 y\? su* p m]ely _h m /imulation f )\t40 8,n[1 my gr&fa!r10 %e said1 80 an intellig5t man1 & he is los+ 8 memory40 8,is he los+ ! valuable ?+8 ,does he love y less1 und]/& y less8 ,are y sure ! memory he is los+ is ! ?+ he /ill ne$s80 ,%e saw :at ,i meant4 ,%e 0 /ruck by x4 ,i w5t on3 8,"o might lose ! ability to d ma!matics1 :5 "o _h ga9$ all !re 0 to be got out ( ma!matics40 ,%e said3 8,i ?9k y are "r4 ,i und]/& t40 ,n[ :5 ,ru? insi/$ aga9 t matt] 0 some?+ b9d+1 some?+ to be left beh9d1 ,alfr$ said3 8,i don't ?9k x is b9d+40 8,nei!r d ,i10 said ,virg9ia4 8,nei!r d ,i10 said ,i1 8= we c always express ourselves 9 a new way4 ,! man :o has writt5 a book is n dumb aft]w>d40 ,! meet+ 0 v %ort & unsatisfactory4 ,i believe t ! *ildr5 w5t home disappo9t$1 = ,i c\ld see t we _h n got at any?+ t ! *ildr5 _h n und]/ood4 ,s9ce !n ,virg9ia's "m told me t ,virg9ia did n enjoy x z mu* z ! o!r meet+s2 t x 0 too deep = h]4 ,flor5ce's 8big bro!r ,ar?ur0 told me t %e1 too1 did n enjoy x z mu*1 & t :5 he que/ion$ h] %e seem$ to und]/& cle>ly only ! fact t !re 0 no %>p di/9ction betwe5 m9d & matt]4 ,o!rwise1 z he put x1 %e 8talk$ woolly40 ,dur+ ! meet+ %e yawn$ once4 ,well1 !n1 ?is meet+ 0 a failure4 ,z su*1 ,i want to use x4 ,:at 0 ! cause8 ,( c\rse1 "o ( ! *ief causes 0 ! difficulty ( ! subject1 & yet ! unavoidability ( x4 ,h[ c\ld ,i g on to speak ( immortality to *ildr5 ) su* absurd notions8 ,i don't ?9k x c\ld be 8skipp$40 ,( c\rse1 ,i w\ld at fir/ suppose t my me?od ( tackl+ ! subject 0 at fault4 ,x may be s1 b at pres5t ,i c ?9k ( no o!r me?od4 ,i ?9k t ! real & rem$iable cause ( ! difficulty 0 ?is3 ,t ! *ildr5 did n h a good en\gh conception ( ! philosophy ( sci5ce1 actual k ( cosmic facts1 to und]/& my po9t ( view4 ,i %\ld h _h ! talk on evolution fir/4 ,to rem$y ?is z mu* z possible1 ,i am go+ to h ! talk on evolution next4 ,to speak ( immortality n[ w\ld cause /ill m confusion4 ,i await next ,sunday ) "s unc]ta9ty & d\bt4 ,= ! next meet+ mu/ be good1 or ! club w be a failure4 ,we mu/ le>n by exp]i5ce1 !y z well z ,i4 ,i w g =w>d ) c\rage1 if my little army does n fail me4 ,if ,i 7 giv+ aga9 ! talk on matt] & _s1 ,i w\ld d x diff]5tly4 ,i w\ld n say 8matt] is ! expression ( _s10 b 8matt] is ! m$ium ?r\gh :i* _s expresses itself40 ,= matt] is some?+1 ?\gh we "k n :at1 & nev] "k x except z =m1 :i* seems to u always an expression ( w4 ,b we "k t1 :atev] x be1 x passes f "o controll+ w to ano!r4 7,( c\rse1 x is too difficult to be discuss$ 9 ?is fa%ion by boys & girls47 ,,f\r? ,,meet+ ,aft] all1 ! la/ meet+ 0 n su* a failure z ,i _h suppos$4 ,i ask$ ,alfr$ to come e>li]1 & que/ion$ him be=e ! o!rs arriv$4 ,he answ]$ me ) precision & common s5se4 ,he said3 8,all matt] 0 once _s1 is ! result ( _s40 ,:5 ,i said3 8,:at we call matt] is ! m$ium ?r\gh :i* _s expresses itself10 he answ]$3 8,yes1 b _s expresses itself 9 o!r ways1 too40 8,?9k a m9ute10 said ,i1 8does x8 ,c ! _s express itself ?r\gh any o!r m$ium80 8,no10 he said1 aft] ?9k+ a mom5t1 8no1 ( c\rse n40 8,nor10 said ,i1 8d we at all "k matt] except ?r\gh ! intellect40 ,i told him t ,i want$ to speak to him alone because he 0 s sil5t at ! club4 ,!n ,h5ry arriv$4 ,he said he enjoy$ ! la/ meet+ v mu*1 & ?\ght he und]/ood x all4 ,! pap] he wrote prov$ t he und]/ood f> bett] ?an ,i _h suppos$3 8,to-day we fir/ w5t ov] :at we _h said la/ week4 ,! "q arose z to :i* class ( evil disease belongs4 ,we came to ! conclusion t x is ! result or price ( progress4 ,we also spoke ab\t ! idea ( a tr9ity4 ,we _h said at ! la/ meet+ t ,god is a div9e self )9 u1 & t :5 we "k ea* o!r we w "k ,god4 ,connect+ ea* "o ( u to ! o!r1 !re is a feel+ ( sympa?y1 a ?ird elem5t4 ,t is to say1 !re is y1 & myself1 &1 mak+ ! ?ird "p1 t sympa!tic und]/&+ :i* br+s u clos] toge!r4 8,! *ief topic to-day 0 t ( ,matt] & ,_s4 ,at fir/ !re 0 a little diff]5ce ( op9ion1 b we f9ally agre$ t 9 reality ev]y?+ is _s1 & t :i* we call matt] is only ! expression ( ! _s4 ,z an example we took ! sculptor1 :o1 gett+ an idea ?r\gh ! m9d1 expresses ?is _s 9 a /atue1 :i* we call matt]4 ,we speak ( ! body z matt]1 b x is _s1 9 z mu* z x is ! m$ium ?r\gh :i* ! _s manife/s itself40 ,:5 ,i told ! *ildr5 ,i _h decid$ to take up evolution be=e immortality1 because evolution 0 ! problem ( creation1 !y 7 all satisfi$ & int]e/$4 ,!n ,i read al\d ,m>ian's little pap]3 8,on ,sunday1 ,octob] #be?1 ! ,seek]s held a regul> meet+4 ,we fir/ review$ our discussion ( ! la/ week1 & !n took up ! subject ( ,matt] & ,_s4 ,our discussion 0 long1 & ! conclusion we rea*$ 0 t matt] is an expression ( _s4 ,9 ! fir/ place1 matt] is t :i* has =m or qualities4 ,e mat]ial ?+ is ! expression ( a ?\ght4 ,if a man makes a table1 he does s because he wi%es to1 because x is 8 w to d s4 ,if he writes a book1 t book is an expression ( 8 ?\ght1 b x is :at is commonly call$ matt]4 ,matt] is1 9 %ort1 a result ( _s1 is an expression ( _s4 ,our bodies are ! expression ( our m9ds1 & ! way 9 :i* we express ourselves to ea* o!r4 ,if our bodies are n p]fect1 if !y are diseas$1 x is m]ely t our m9ds h n advanc$ f> en\gh to express ! p]fect body4 ,our talk ?is week help$ me a great deal4 ,al?\gh we did n cov] mu* gr\nd1 we rea*$ a conclusion on "o ( ! mo/ difficult subjects1 & ,i ?9k almo/ e "o 0 conv9c$40 ,ru? said %e _h ?\ght all ! week ( :at ,i _h told !m1 & t %e 0 sure %e agre$ ) me n[4 ,! *ildr5's ?\ghts seem to develop dur+ ! week1 z if !y %ap$ aft]w>d1 & sl[ly1 all t _h be5 said4 ,virg9ia disagre$ ) ,m>ian1 t ! p]fect m9d w\ld make ! p]fect body4 ,%e said3 8,p ) p]fect bodies are (t5 fools4 ,& sickly p are (t5 ! mo/ intellig5t & f9e spirit$40 ,m>ian & ,ru? bo? prote/$1 b c\ld n express !mselves4 ,s ,i said3 8,t is true4 ,b /ill ,i believe ! p]fect m9d w\ld h ! p]fect body4 ,our bodies may be imp]fect = sev]al reasons3 ,p]haps we are suff]+ = ! wrong _s ( our ance/ors1 ?r\gh h]$ity4 ,or1 aga91 ! body :i* may be good en\gh1 & q p]fect1 ev51 ) ! fool's m9d1 might n be /rong en\gh = ! active m9d4 ,t m9d w\ld h to create = itself a m p]fect body4 ,s1 y see1 our bodily imp]fections are ! price ( progress4 ,our upright position1 = in/ance1 :i* is s great a help to ! m9d1 is a /ra9 on ! body1 & ! cause ( _m ( our ills40 ,ru? said3 8,i ?9k our bodies w become s mu* bett] ?an !y are n[1 t ! be/ we "k n[ w seem v poor40 ,virg9ia _h writt5 a little pap]1 :i* seem$ to me at ! fir/ read+ s vague & uncompreh5d+1 t ,i did n wi% to read x al\d4 ,i 0 glad ,i did read x al\d1 h[ev]1 z h] explanation & int]pretation ( h]self %[$ t %e und]/ood4 ,?is is ! pap]3 ,,my ,,idea ,,( ,,matt] 8,matt] is a "p ( m9d4 ,)\t x !re w\ld be no improvem5t ( ! m9d4 ,m9d1 )\t matt]1 w\ld be l a /unt$ *ild4 ,x w\ld /ill exi/1 b x w\ld n gr[4 ,x seems z if matt] 7 ! m$ium betwe5 m9d & progress40 ,virg9ia said t 0 h] own idea1 :e!r we agre$ or n4 ,x means1 accord+ to ,virg9ia1 t matt] is ! m$ium ( expression ( m9d1 & t m9d c\ld n gr[ )\t ?is m$ium4 ,v good1 x seems to me2 & we d agree4 ,i said1 & ,ru? & ,h5ry jo9$ me1 t "o mu/ make a di/9ction1 = conv5i5ce1 at lea/1 betwe5 ! words 8_s0 & 8matt]40 ,m>ian said !y _h be5 sep>at$ s long1 s completely & s fooli%ly1 t %e 0 glad to dwell ^u _! sam5ess4 ,n[ ,i w5t on to speak ( evolution4#a ,i %[$ !m h[ ! !ory ( evolution1 or desc5t f a common ance/or or ance/ors1 0 a creation !ory1 j z mu* z ,g5esis 0 a creation !ory4 ,i said3 8,!re is no reason :y y %\ld believe ?is any m ?an any o!r hi/ory1 or /ory1 unless ! pro(s conv9ce y40 ,alfr$ & ,virg9ia said x 0 a reasonable1 conv9c+ !ory4 ,m>ian saw :at ,i meant1 &1 n kn[+ s mu* z !y1 ask$ = ! pro(4 ,i fir/ gave !m ! pro( ( lik5ess ( /ructure1 & %[$ !m pictures ( ! resemblances ( bone & organ /ructure 9 v>i\s animals4 ,ru? said %e 0 q sure all little babies 7 l monkeys4 ,!n ,i gave ! pro( ( ! race-lik5ess ( ! "y4 7,examples & illu/rations47 ,!n t ( rudim5t>y organs4 7,examples & illu/rations47 ,virg9ia sugge/$ ! geological pro( 9 ! f9d+ ( fossils4 ,i enl>g$ on ?is1 & spoke ( s]ies ( liv+ & ext9ct %ells1 etc4 ,i trac$ ! g5]al progress ( evolution1 ! division into gr\ps & bran*es4 ,i told !m--:at "s knew--t evolution 0 an anci5t1 philosophical !ory1 & only ! me?od ( evolution ,d>w9ian4 ,"s ( !m said ,d>w9's "n always made !m ?9k ( monkeys4 ,i n[ w5t on to expla9 ,d>w9's !ory ( natural selection2 spoke ( v>iation 9 all directions z ! law ( life2 !n expla9$ ! /ruggle = food & place1 & !n protective color+s1 & consequ5t elim9ation4 ,! *ildr5 gave z _m examples & in/ances z myself4 ,!n ,i w5t on to tell :at artificial selection _h be5 able to d1 & %[$ a gr\p ( pictures ( ! dog1 dome/icat$ f a wolf-l animal4 ,! pictures includ$ prize bulldogs1 ,/4 ,b]n>ds1 ,fr5* poodles1 t9y ,japanese dogs & great ,danes4 ,n[ ,flor5ce1 :o has j _h in/ruction 9 evolution by h] helpful big bro!r1 said3 8,b a great _m sci5ti/s no long] accept natural selection & ! survival ( ! fitte/ z an explanation ( developm5t4 ,!re is ! !ory ( isolation1 too40 8,yes10 ,i said1 8& ,i am "o ( ^? :o believe 9 natural selection only 9 "p1 b ,i want$ y to he> x all4 ,flor5ce1 expla9 ! effect ( isolation to u40 ,%e expla9$ x1 & gave a v good example1 t ( "s birds 9 a species hav+ /rong] w+s ?an o!rs1 & s fly+ f>!r to ne/4 ,:5 ,i ask$ :at any !ory ( ! process ( evolution fail$ to expla91 ,ru? answ]$ 8immortality40 ,i told h] t evolution>y !ories did n attempt to expla9 t4 ,i %[$ !m h[ no !ory expla9$ *ange itself1 expla9$ ! initial v>iation4 ,i %[$ !m1 too1 ! limits ( natural selection4 ,:5 ,i took ! eye z an example ( a specializ$ organ too complex to be easily acc\nt$ = by natural selection1 ,i f\nd !m h>d to conv9ce1 because !y did n realize ! complexity ( ! eye4 ,b :5 ,i spoke ( ! life & dea? value ( any organic *ange z necess>y = its selection1 !y saw h[ t limit$ selection 9 _m ways4 ,we spoke ( ! relation ( evolution to our idea ( life4 ,at once !y said x 0 a pro( ( progress4 ,i insi/$ on its be+ a self-evolv+1 a w 9 life4 ,!y saw t4 ,alfr$ said3 8,c\ld ! "o-cell$ creature w2 did x "k en\gh80 ,m>ian answ]$ t x 0 a subconsci\s w4 ,h5ry said3 8,)9 liv+ ?+s is ! inn] w4 ,b h[ ab\t ! e>?8 ,isn't !re a w outside = o!r ?+s80 ,i answ]$ t ev5 ! e>? seem$ self-impell$2 t )9 ! univ]se seem$ to be an imm5se w1 & we 7 a "p ( t w2 x 0 our w )9 u4 ,i said t creatures c\ld *ange only because !y want$ to be diff]5t1 because some?+ want$ to be diff]5t4 ,i said to *ange1 & to *ange always 9 "o direction1 0 progress2 t :at we want$ to d1 & ?\ght we _h done1 0 to f9d t direction4 ,!y saw at once h[ physical dea? 0 necess>y to race progress1 h[ ! old di$ to make room = ! "y1 & h[ ea* newborn creature _h new possibilities ( progress4 ,b :5 ,i spoke ( all ! progress ( evolution1 ( ev5 /ruggle & selection lead+ t[>d h>mony1 fitness & relation%ip1 :i* is ! ?+ we want1 ,ru? said3 8,i don't see h[ ! lob/] kill+ its fell[s because x _h a l>g] claw c\ld lead to h>mony & bett] relation%ip40 ,t 0 a good po9t4 ,b ,i sc>cely _h a *ance to answ] x1 = ,m>ian said t creatures _h to develop !mselves fir/4 ,!n ,i spoke aga91 9 ?is relation1 ( *ang+ /&>ds ( good & bad1 h[ :at 0 "r = an animal1 = ! lob/]1 = in/ance1 0 wrong = u4 ,i %[$ !m h[ all animals 7 selfi%1 & _h to be selfi% & self-evolv+ alone2 h[ we _h to be unselfi% only because we realiz$ h[ va/ we 74 ,m>ian spoke aga9 ( ! crim9al4 ,%e said3 8,if he 7 beh9d u1 he1 f 8 own po9t ( view1 w\ld n be bad40 8,b he w\ld h to be puni%$10 said ,ru?1 8& made to be good40 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8= he is human1 & we expect human actions ( him4 ,b we w\ld n d>e to blame him40 ,h5ry said we w\ld puni% him n z a puni%m5t to hurt him1 b to tea* him4 ,we spoke aga9 ( div]sity z necess>y to compreh5sion1 to und]/&+4 ,i told !m ,i _h a :imsical fancy t ! fir/ "o-cell$ creature divid$ because x want$ company4 ,if creatures nev] divid$1 & became diff]5t1 !y c]ta9ly c\ld nev] und]/& ea* o!r4 ,m>ian said3 8,i see n[4 ,x is l a girl :o _h always liv$ 9 h] own family & develop$ pretty well !re1 b ! m diff]5t p %e met ! bett] %e w\ld develop40 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8unlik5ess gives u recognition40 ,virg9ia said3 8,if we 7 all "o self1 life w\ld be un9t]e/+40 8,yes10 said ,i1 8b we might rea* a self-consci\s self :i* is un?9kable to u n[4 ,!re is "o way1 h[ev]1 9 :i* evolution helps u1 & t is su* an obvi\s way t none ( y has ?\ght ( x40 ,= a mom5t !y 7 puzzl$4 ,!n ,alfr$ said3 8,x is t we are really all "o self40 8,oh1 ,i see10 said ,m>ian4 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8x is t we are all physically relat$ ) all life40 ,!n ,i w5t on to say t no "o knew h[ life began1 t !re 7 !ories1 b !y might be no bett] ?an fairy tales4 ,!y want$ to he> "s4 ,i said3 8,"o !ory is t life is et]nal 9 ! %ape ( life-g]ms1 or organic matt]1 & t ^! pass f planet to planet ?r\gh\t ! e!r =ev]4 ,b x is only a !ory1 & a d\btful "o40 8,i l t !ory10 said ,virg9ia4 ,i said ,i ?\ght beg9n+s conc]n$ u no m ?an ends1 t all ?+s1 hi/ories1 sci5ce1 k1 !ories conc]n$ u only 9 s f> z !y help$ u to und]/&1 z !y s]v$ ! l>ge aim ( life & %[$ u h[ to g4 ,i made ,h5ry repeat aga9 t ! aim ( life 0 complete und]/&+4 ,i said3 8,to me x is l a measure by :i* ,i measure & value all ?+s40 ,we tri$ to measure v>i\s ?+s by x1 su* z ! relative advancem5t ( monkeys1 birds & ants1 & ! greatness ( ,napoleon & ,%akespe>e4 ,we came to few conclusions1 except t ! love ( man made man lovable1 & t ,%akespe>e mu/ h be5 a lov] ( m54 ,h5ry said3 8,i ?9k he work$ = 8 own sake1 & n = o!rs40 8,yes10 ,i answ]$2 8b he lov$ & und]/ood 8 fell[s1 s he c\ld n help s]v+ !m 9 s]v+ himself4 ,x 0 8 joy40 ,i said if we _h t /&>d ( und]/&+ love1 we w\ld ne$ no o!r morality4 ,i quot$ f ,/4 ,augu/9e's ,confessions3 8,love ,god1 & d z y please40 8,b10 ,i said1 8mo/ ( u d n love ,god1 or ! great good1 en\gh to be able to d z we please )\t ?9k+4 ,we /ill h to /op to measure40 ,z !y 7 go+ home1 ,i said3 8,next week we w speak ( immortality40 8,really1 ?is "t80 ask$ ,ru?4 8,n[1 aft] ?is meet+10 said ,m>ian1 8,i am afraid y may tell u1 :at ,i h sometimes he>d1 t we are immortal 9 ! race4 ,w y80 8,no10 ,i answ]$1 8,i w n40 ----- #a ,= examples & illu/rations ,i us$ ! fir/ volume ( ,romanes' 8,d>w9 & ,aft] ,d>w90 z m conv5i5t & compact ?an ,d>w9 himself4 ,,fif? ,,meet+ ,h5ry said3 8,i told "s "o lately ab\t our club & :at we did1 & he ?\ght we spoke ( ?+s t 7 too deep & philosophical40 8,d y ?9k s80 ,i ask$4 8,no10 he answ]$1 8( c\rse ,i don't40 ,i said3 8,we are do+ some?+ unusual = boys & girls ( y\r age4 ,mo/ p w\ld ?9k y n able to und]/& & enjoy x4 ,b ,i "k y d1 & y "k x40 ,m>ian said3 8,:y %\ld we n be able to talk ( ^! ?+s 9 a club1 :5 we c]ta9ly d talk ( !m among ourselves80 ,i read ,h5ry's pap]3 8,to-day we spoke on ! !ory ( evolution4 ,! !ory tells u t we are desc5d$ f a s+le1 "o-cell$ animal4 ,?is animal grew & 0 divid$ into sev]al cells1 :i* 9 turn 7 divid$4 ,we f9d t :5 a race ( animals ne$s some?+ ) :i* to protect itself1 or ) :i* to get food1 t ?+ usually gr[s1 z 9 ! case ( ! "m bird1 ^: fea!rs are usually ! color ( ! place :]e %e has h] ne/4 ,9 ?is mann] ! "o-cell$ animals may h develop$1 z ! increas+ numb]s made x h>d] to get food1 & br\ght o!r difficulties4 ,ano!r way 9 :i* species may develop is t ( isolation4 ,= example1 :ile a flock ( birds is fly+ s\? to escape ! cold1 "s ( ! weak] ones are left on ! way4 ,"h ! cold may cause _m fea!rs to gr[1 & ! o!r conditions may h su* an effect z to develop an entirely new k9d ( bird4 ,we c also take z an example ! diff]5t colors ( m51 caus$ by ! conditions 9 :i* !y live4 8,! disappe>ance ( c]ta9 species :ile o!rs survive is1 accord+ to ! idea ( natural selection1 only ! survival ( ! fitte/4 ,we f9d t long ago !re 7 animals l>g] ?an any ( to-day1 b !y h completely di$ out1 p]haps because !y c\ld n f9d food1 :ile ! small]1 weak] animals h surviv$ because !y 7 bett] fitt$ = ! conditions4 ,look+ back at hi/ory1 we c see h[ at diff]5t p]iods "o nation w\ld wipe out ano!r :i* 0 weak]1 or h[ "o p1 m advanc$ ?an o!rs1 c\ld bett] protect itself f ! elem5ts1 &1 !re=e1 liv$ :ile o!rs di$4 ,! simil>ity ( diff]5t animals gives a good f\ndation = ?is !ory4 ,a baby w (t5 take attitudes exactly l ^? ( a monkey1 & :ile x is "y crawl on all f\rs l animals4 ,diff]5t k9ds ( animals h bones & all o!r p>ts ( ! body j alike1 & also l ^? ( m54 8,?is !ory tea*es progression & is !re=e useful4 ,x tea*es t we 7 once "o1 & we %\ld !re=e h sympa?y ) "o ano!r40 ,i next read ,flor5ce's pap]3 8,9 our la/ talk we spoke ( evolution & its be>+ on progress4 ,i %all simply try to give an idea ( :at we said ab\t evolution itself4 ,by evolution we mean t we all sprang f a common ance/ral s\rce1 & h gradually develop$ into high] & diff]5t =ms4 ,9 g5]al1 ?is *ange has be5 f ! greate/ simplicity1 :i* we f9d 9 ! "o-cell$ animal1 to ! highe/ complexity4 8,d>w91 al?\gh n ! fir/ to advance ! !ory ( evolution1 0 ! fir/ to enl>ge & fur!r x4 ,8 d$uctions re/ on ?ree ma9 !ories--h]$ity1 v>iation & natural selection4 ,he ?\ght t ! (fspr+ always inh]it$ ! p>5ts' qualities ) some?+ new 9 its composition4 ,by natural selection ,d>w9 meant ! survival ( ! fitte/1 t is1 t only ! mo/ fitt$ = life %\ld live4 ,9 ?is way ! (fspr+ receiv+ traits f its p>5ts1 if !y be to its advantage1 w live & cont9ue !m1 & ^? :o h n got !m w be kill$4 ,9 o!r words1 ,d>w9 believ$ t ! t]rible /ruggle = exi/5ce1 :i* usually de/roys n9e-t5?s ( ea* g5]ation1 mu/ favor ^? :o possess ! be/ v>iation = _! environm5t2 & t ^! w 9 turn h& on to _! successors ^! favor+ v>iations4 ,9 ?is next g5]ation ! same process w be repeat$1 & 9 ?is way we get a /eady ?\gh v gradual advance4 8,to-day1 h[ev]1 look+ at x broadly1 we c see t all h]$ity & v>iation ne$ is "s way ( sep>at+ ^? individuals hav+ "s peculi> v>iation f ^? :o d n possess any4 ,?is we call isolation1 & x c easily be se5 t natural selection is only a subhead "u ?is title4 ,ano!r =m ( isolation beside natural selection is geographical4 8,our !ories h advanc$ to ?is /age1 & al?\gh x is q a l>ge move f ! orig9al ideas ( ,d>w91 !re are _m que/ions /ill puzzl+ u1 :i* h yet to be solv$40 ,!n came ,m>ian's pap]3 8,on ,sunday1 ,novemb] #a/1 ! ,seek]s held a v int]e/+ meet+4 ,! subject we discuss$ 0 ,evolution4 ,! v l[e/ =m ( life is a "o-cell$ animal4 ,?is divides into a two-cell$ "o1 :i* 9 turn cont9ues to divide & diff]5tiate until x takes ! =m ( a plant or animal4 ,all animals mu/ h _h "s common ance/or4 ,! pro( ( ?is is ! exi/5ce ( rudim5t>y organs1 su* z ! app5dix 9 man & ! bones 9 ! flipp] ( a :ale :]e we %\ld expect legs4 ,ano!r pro( is to be f\nd 9 ! rema9s & k we h ( prehi/oric animals4 ,"s ( !m 7 %ap$ l reptiles1 & yet _h w+s4 ,9 connection ) evolution1 !re are ! !ories ( natural selection & isolation4 ,natural selection is ! belief 9 ! survival ( ! fitte/4 ,= in/ance1 if "o lob/] happ5$ to gr[ a l>ge claw1 :i* enabl$ x to fight bett]1 its "y 7 likely to inh]it ?is t5d5cy1 & _! "y also1 etc41 until ! l>g]-claw$ lob/]s1 be+ bett] able to fight1 w\ld kill (f mo/ ( ! o!rs4 ,?is !ory w\ld n always hold good1 h[ev]4 ,! !ory ( isolation is v int]e/+4 ,if1 = in/ance1 a bird ( "o species 0 born ) a long] bill ?an mo/ ( ! o!rs1 & ?is bird f\nd a w>m] climate 0 bett] = x1 &1 aft] mat+1 flew f>!r s\?1 its "y w\ld probably inh]it ?is long] bill1 & w\ld also fly f>!r s\? ?an mo/ ( ! species4 ,soon !y w\ld become entirely sep>at$ f ! orig9al species1 & w\ld become a new class ( birds4 ,! connection t ,evolution has ) our "w is t evolution is progress & t our aim is progress4 ,evolution also helps u to und]/& animals & plants1 & to come into a bett] und]/&+ ) nature4 ,disease is ! price ( progress4 ,z we progress1 "o "p goes ahead1 (t5 at ! exp5se ( "s o!r "p4 ,?us disease may be call$ ! price ( progress40 ,m>ian admitt$ t %e 0 r mix$ up ab\t ! cells divid+ & ! long-bill$ bird go+ s\? = 8 heal?4 ,b ?is is do+ well = ! unsci5tific ,m>ian1 :o said a :ile ago t %e did n see h[ sci5ce c\ld h any effect on our view ( life4 ,!n ,i read ,virg9ia's pap]3 ,,!ory ,,( ,,evolution 8,! fir/ life t appe>$ on ! e>? 0 a "o-cell$ animal or plant t appe>$ b5ea? ! wat]4 ,! g]ms ( life travel ?r\gh ! e!r1 & :]ev] !re are conditions 9 :i* liv+ ?+s c ?rive1 !re !y settle4 ,s t 0 ! way 9 :i* life began on ! e>?4 8,?is "o-cell$ animal1 aft] a :ile1 divid$ into m cells1 & ?us became m complicat$4 ,:5 l& appe>$1 l& animals & plants came into exi/5ce4 ,& ^! animals became high] & high]4 ,fir/ ! animals )\t a sp9e1 !n a m complicat$ specim51 9 ! l[] =ms ( v]tebrates4 ,!n ! reptiles1 out ( :i* came two bran*es1 ! birds & ! imm5se reptiles ( :i* none h surviv$ t ,i "k (4 ,b out ( !m came ! mammals4 ,& aft] _m ?\s&s ( ye>s1 man appe>$4 8,at fir/ man 0 m l an animal1 b aft] c5turies he became less savage4 ,he made implem5ts = himself1 & liv$ 9 tribes ) 8 fell[ m52 & ! m highly civiliz$ man becomes1 ! m w he sympa?ize ) ! re/ ( mank9d1 s t :5 ! highe/ civilization arrives1 x w only mean complete love ( all liv+ ?+s40 ,i insi/$ t ! !ory ( g]m transmission 0 n a fact4 ,i said %e seem$ to h avoid$ natural selection1 t ,i ?\ght %e did n l x because x 0 too ma!matical & too logical = h]4 ,ru? ?\ght p]haps t 0 :y %e did n l x mu*1 ei!r1 ?\gh x int]e/$ h]4 ,i said3 8,x seems at fir/ s #8cruel' a !ory2 x repels u until we rememb] t :at is cruel 9 a man is n s 9 a bea/40 ,virg9ia answ]$ t %e did n ?9k x cruel1 because x 0 n meant cruelly4 8,!y _h to kill ea* o!r10 %e said4 ,h5ry ask$ me :e!r ,i ?\ght x cruel to eat animals4 ,i answ]$ x 0 n cruel1 unless !y 7 cruelly kill$4 ,ru? add$ t "s "t we w\ld get beyond ! ne$ ( eat+ animals4 8,to hunt = fun is wick$10 said ,virg9ia4 ,m>ian said3 8,p]haps we ?9k natural selection n s cruel among animals1 because we did n d ! suff]+40 ,! *ildr5 all said !y did n rememb] j :at relation evolution _h to our idea ( life4 ,i answ]$ t ! v fact t we c\ld n g on 9 our ?\ght )\t x prov$ its relation1 & t we w\ld con/antly come back to x1 t ,i did n ne$ to expla9 x n[4 ,!n we spoke ( pray]4 ,i ask$ ea* "o 9 turn :at & h[ mu* !y _h ?\ght ( x4 ,alfr$ said he _h nev] ?\ght ( x1 t he _h pray$ z a baby1 b _h /opp$ e>ly & nev] felt ! ne$4 ,flor5ce said ! same4 ,h5ry said he believ$ 9 pray]1 especially 9 pray] = /r5g? 9 any und]tak+4 8,( c\rse10 he w5t on1 8,i don't expect to be help$ aga9/ ! o!r fell[1 b ,i get /r5g? 9 pray+ = /r5g?40 8,i agree ) y10 said ,ru?1 8only don't y pray to "k :e!r y are "r or n8 ,= y might be wrong40 8,if ,i ?\ght ,i might be wrong10 he answ]$1 8,i w\ldn't be do+ ! ?+ ,i 0 do+40 ,!y argu$ x a bit4 8,b10 he w5t on1 8,i h no set =mula = pray]1 nor a def9ite "t40 ,virg9ia said3 8,i h always pray$4 ,:5 ,i 0 little ,i got 9 ! habit ( say+ a silly little ,g]man pray]1 s t ,i c\ld n g to sleep )\t say+ some?+4 ,s :5 ! little pray] seem$ too silly to me1 ,i began say+ ea* ev5+ ! /anza ( a poem40 8,:at poem80 ,i ask$4 8,! la/ /anza ( ! #8,*amb]$ ,nautilus4' ,i c\ld n g to sleep unless ,i said x40 ,%e recit$ x = u4 ,m>ian said3 8,x dep5ds on :at y mean by pray]4 ,i nev] le>n$ to say any1 nor ev] want$ to1 b ,i d h a pray]-feel+40 ,we all agre$ t ! pray] :i* ask$ = some?+ def9ite 0 folly4 ,i said pray] 0 gett+ into on5ess ) ! va/ ,self ar\nd & beh9d u1 & draw+ /r5g? f t :i* 0 ours = ! ask+1 :i* 0 ourself4 ,m>ian said x 0 gett+ into h>mony ) ! _w4 ,we ?\ght e "o _h t feel+ ( va/ness1 ( on5ess ) ,god1 at times4 ,virg9ia said %e got x especially :5 %e 0 by ! sea4 8,i feel x mo/10 said ,m>ian1 8:5 ,i am out ( doors1 & feel my close relation ) nature40 ,h5ry said he felt x mo/ 9 a big cr[d ( p4 8,yes10 answ]$ ,ru?2 8!n y feel h[ little all ?is is1 & ! va/1 big life above x all40 8,y don't mean1 ,ru?10 ,i ask$ 8t y feel ! cr[d to be a little ?+80 8,oh1 no10 %e answ]$4 8,i feel x 9 ! cr[d40 ,h5ry said3 8,to be among p always ar\ses t feel+ ( sympa?y40 ,!re are _m ways ( pray+1 ,i said2 to speak c]ta9 words t ar\s$ 9 u ! pray]-feel+ 0 a good way2 b t ! words 7 only to awak5 ! feel+ 9 u1 & 7 wor? no?+ by !mselves4 ,if "o c\ld feel ! pray] )\t any words :atev]1 x w\ld be j z well4 ,flor5ce ?\ght x v h>d n to get to repeat words by rote4 ,h5ry said he always made a p>ticul> ef=t to ?9k ( ! mean+ ( ! words z he said !m4 8,i don't believe10 said ,virg9ia1 8t x is s mu* ?\ght z feel+4 ,i don't always ?9k ( ! mean+ ( ^? words :5 ,i say !m1 b ,i get f !m ! feel+ t ,i mu/ h1 to g to sleep40 8,& n[10 ,i w5t on1 8x seems especially important to get into ?is frame ( m9d j be=e we g to sleep4 ,= dur+ sleep x seems z if ! bigg] self 7 work+ = u4 ,& z we g to sleep1 s %all we be next day4 ,i ?9k t if1 z y fall asleep1 y ask--y\r va/ self--= /r5g?1 = ! p[] to d :atev] y "k y mu/ d next day1 & to solve :atev] problems y h to solve1 & !n get ! deep s5se ( pray]1 y usually awak5 ) ! /r5g? y ne$1 & y\r problems solv$4 ,is x n s80 ,virg9ia said %e always f\nd t if %e want$ to le>n some?+1 %e _h only to read x ov] to h]self at night1 )\t le>n+ x1 & 9 ! morn+1 :5 %e awoke1 %e knew x4 ,ru? said %e f\nd x s2 t %e always felt next day accord+ to ! way %e _h fall5 asleep at night4 ,!y _h v>i\s op9ions4 ,m>ian said x did n matt] h[ %e fell asleep at night2 if ?+s w5t well 9 ! morn+1 ! :ole day w5t well2 if ill1 !n ! day w5t ill4 ,%e loves ! p[] ( ea* new day4 ,alfr$ said he ?\ght t our bra9s work$ = u 9 sleep1 because !n ! m9d 0 free f all ob/ruct+ ?\ghts4 ,i repeat$ = !m a little pray] ,i _h writt5 = a baby3 8,great ,"l ( life1 :o lives 9 me1 ,& lives 9 all ,i "k1 ,) happy ?\ghts ,i g to sleep2 ,& :ile ,i sleep ,i gr[4 8,i hope to wake ?is com+ morn ,m /rong1 & brave & bright2 ,:ile y %all /ay1 bo? night & day1 ,) all ,i love to-night40 ,!y said x did n seem babyi% to !m4 ,h5ry1 especially1 lik$ x1 & sev]al ( !m wi%$ to copy x4 ,i said "o might h ! 8pray]-feel+10 ! s5se ( ! :ole1 s con/antly t "o w\ld n ne$ to pray1 t "o's :ole life might be a pray]4 ,! *ildr5 object$ to ?is1 because !y ?\ght x w\ld be impossible n[1 9 our imp]fect condition4 ,virg9ia said3 8,a p]son :o liv$ t way w\ld be a p]fect sa9t40 ,h5ry ?\ght x w\ld make "o cold & unsympa!tic4 8,h[ is t possible10 ,i ask$1 8:5 x w\ld be a /ate ( con/ant sympa?y & und]/&+ ( life80 8,no10 said ,ru?2 8su* a p]son w\ld be too mu* above u4 ,i don't ?9k "o c\ld live s1 at pres5t4 ,x w\ld imply a p]fection physical & m5tal t we h n yet rea*$40 ,flor5ce said %e n only ?\ght su* a /ate possible1 b %e believ$ !re 7 p :o liv$ 9 ?is way n[1 & t %e knew su* p4 ,"s "o sugge/$ t !y mu/ be unspeakably happy4 8,no10 answ]$ ,flor5ce2 8n necess>ily happy1 at all40 ,i said t ,i ?\ght su* a life w\ld be a /ate ( happ9ess4 ,!y all agre$2 ,flor5ce1 too1 aft] a mom5t4 ,m>ian & ,h5ry said !y _h nev] met p )\t limitations4 ,flor5ce insi/$ %e _h2 :]eupon ,m>ian call$ h] a h]o-wor%ip]4 ,i said p's limitations 7 :]e !y fail$ to und]/&1 & t we none ( u und]/ood ev]y?+4 ,! s5se ( on5ess w\ld n imply1 h[ev]1 ei!r p]fection or ap>tness or sup]iority4 ,"o might feel ev]y?+ 9 ?is way1 :5ev] "o ?\ght ( x4 ,h5ry answ]$3 8,b h[ (t5 is "o n occupi$8 ,little ?+s di/ract u con/antly40 ,m>ian said3 8,x means hav+ always ! s5se ( on5ess1 sympa?y & und]/&+1 & always act+1 ?9k+ & judg+ accord+ to t40 8,yes10 said ,i1 8& !re is ano!r ?+ t seems to me a pray]4 ,e creative action2 t is1 ev]y?+ we d :i* br+s u into relation ) ! _w1 is a pray] because x is an expression ( on5ess40 ,m>ian said3 8,x seems z if !re 7 two k9ds ( pray]1 "o /r5g?-giv+ & "o /r5g?-gett+40 ,i don't "k h[ we came ^u ! subject ( circles4 ,i said t ! smalle/ ?+s1 z well z ! l>ge/1 7 prone to express !mselves 9 a univ]sal way1 t e drop ( wat] naturally =m$ itself into a sph]e4 8,yes10 said ,m>ian2 8& ! circle seems to /& = all life40 ,n[ we spoke ( immortality4 ,i ask$ ea* to tell me :at he or %e ?\ght4 ,virg9ia did n want to express h] op9ion4 ,ru? & ,h5ry vaguely impli$ t !y believ$ 9 immortality4 ,alfr$ said3 8,i ?9k x is v good = p1 if !y c believe 9 x40 8,t is n ! "q10 said ,i4 8,i believe no?+ b ! tru? is truly good = p4 ,:at d y believe80 8,i don't believe ,i am immortal10 he answ]$1 8because ,i see no reason to believe x40 ,flor5ce said3 8,we mu/ be immortal1 because no?+ dies1 b is pass$ on4 ,& !re is some?+ 9 u--,i mean t :i* loves & kn[s sympa?y--:i* we d n pass on4 ,s ,i ?9k x mu/ be immortal40 ,m>ian said3 8,i am1 s ,i don't see h[ ,i c\ld n be40 ,i answ]$ !m3 8,m>ian's & ,flor5ce's ideas seem to me v good4 ,"o _c prove immortality4 ,i h good reasons to believe x4 ,b my be/ reason is n a reason at all2 & if y don't und]/& x1 ,i _c expla9 x to y4 ,if ,i am1 ,i mu/ be =ev]4 #8,i am' means immortality4 ,t is :at ,m>ian said1 & :at ,i believe4 ,if ,i believe 9 ! :ole ,self ( ! univ]se1 & t ,self is 9 me1 & ,i am 9 x1 !n h[ c ,i die unless t ,self dies8 ,& if ,i believe 9 progress1 :i* is t[>d complete und]/&+ & :ol5ess ( ! ,self1 h[ c t progress be )\t me :o am a "p ( x8 ,d y "k :o ,rob]t ,+]soll 08 ,well1 he1 :o pass$ = su* a sc(f]--?\gh 9 reality he express$ only 8 own realization ( 8 ignorance & 8 contempt = dogmatic fai?s--once said3 #8,i am a "p ( ! _w4 ,)\t me ! _w w\ld be incomplete4 ,9 ?is !re is hope4' ,hope1 he meant1 ( et]nal life ) ! _w40 ,! *ildr5 7 mu* impress$4 ,m>ian said3 8,h[ c "o face ! horrible ?\ght ( ext9ction8 ,x is unimag9able4 ,:at answ] w\ld y give10 %e ask$1 8to ^? p :o claim t we are immortal only 9 our *ildr51 9 ! race8 ,i nev] "k :at to answ] !m1 & yet ,i feel sure !y are n "r40 8,i ?9k !re are two good answ]s10 ,i said4 8,fir/1 x is extremely unlikely t ! race is immortal4 ,ev5 if we ?\ght our immortality unlikely1 x is f> m likely1 & mu* less ( an act ( fai?1 to believe 9 x ?an to believe 9 race-immortality4 ,we "k t e planet dies & p>*es4 ,we "k t e race1 e physical manife/ation comes to an end1 b we "k t ! _s ( life lives =ev]1 & =ev] gr[s4 ,i h he>d p say t :5 ?is planet dries & freezes1 m5 w h advanc$ s f> 9 sci5ce t !y w f9d _! way 9 air%ips to ano!r planet4 ,b to me x seems f> m unlikely ?an t ! _s ( life1 ! self )9 u1 %\ld g on =ev]4 ,! second answ] seems to me to be ,flor5ce's answ]1 t we are n immortal 9 ! race1 t al?\gh we give our *ildr5 mu*1 we give to no "o our p[] ( love1 ( und]/&+1 ( sympa?y40 ,h5ry ask$3 8,don't we give x ?r\gh example & tea*+80 8,we give mu*10 ,i said4 8,we c tea* & tra91 b we give no "o t und]/&+ self1 ! p[] = love & sympa?y1 :i* is 9 u1 & _c be made40 ,h5ry did n see h[ "o c\ld f9d satisfaction 9 liv+ = ! race1 s9ce =ev] & ev] ea* successive g5]ation w\ld be mortal & w\ld disappe>4 ,i said ,i did n believe t 9 a _w :i* to u 0 all intellect1 ! intellect c\ld die4 ,!n ,i read al\d ! foll[+ passage f 8,john ,p]cyfield10 by ,c4 ,han=d ,h5d]son3 8,x is an old mi/ake1 t ( call+ desires beliefs4 ,b ,i ?9k ,i h all[$ = ?is4 ,i h said1 if dea? end all1 if t be ! tru? ( x1 !n t is :at ,i want to believe4 ,= no man 9 8 "r s5ses wi%es to be ei!r self-deceiv$1 or o!r-deceiv$4 ,i h d\bt$ immortality1 ev5 disbeliev$ x1 b n[ ,i believe x on z /rong w>rant z ,i h = any ( my sci5tific beliefs4 ,9 "o s5se1 immortality _c be exp]i5c$2 x is n a fact ( exp]i5ce 9 ! same imm$iate way t c]ta9 m9or sci5tific facts are4 ,b nei!r c ! paleozoic age be exp]i5c$1 nor space1 nor "t1 nor cause & effect4 ,!y are inductions f exp]i5ce4 ,& s to me is immortality4 ,x is an induction f exp]i5ce4 ,9 a _w :]e e reality is ess5tially spiritual1 or intellectual1 :i*ev] t]m y pref]1 :]e ev5 ! /udy ( nature1 z soon z x passes f m]e obs]vation into ord]ly sci5ce1 becomes a m5tal r ?an a physical fact1 ,i c only imag9e ! disappe>ance ( _s by pictur+ ! annihilation ( ! univ]se itself4 ,)\t ! m5tal "p t we give to all ( our s-call$ facts1 !y w\ld cease to exi/4 ,x is possible t ! univ]se does %rivel up 9 ?is way & disappe>1 b x is less probable1 ,i ?9k1 ?an any "o ( ! great possibilities :i* sci5ce rejects1 & feels w>rant$ 9 accept+ _! opposite z fact40 ,i said t to me z to him x seem$ z if1 7 !re n immortality = ! self1 ! _w itself might %rivel up & disappe>4 ,a _w )\t immortality w\ld be a mad _w1 )\t reason2 &1 z ev]y?+ else seems reasonable to me1 ,i believe ! _w to be reasonable4 ,i spoke1 too1 ( ! dang] ( believ+ ?+s simply because we lik$ !m4 ,i told !m h[ ,i _h disbeliev$ 9 immortality at "o "t1 because ,i sudd5ly f\nd ,i _h only believ$ :at pleas$ me4 ,virg9ia said3 8,i believe ?+s because ,i l !m4 ,b may n t lik+1 t feel+1 9 itself be a sign ( tru?80 8,no10 ,i answ]$2 8lik+ is no pro( or sign40 ,m>ian said3 8,b x is only because we c>e1 because we wi% to believe1 t we beg9 to ?9k ( ^! ?+s40 8,yes10 ,i repli$1 8we mu/ c>e4 ,b !n we mu/ bravely face ! tru?40 ,m>ian told u %e _h nev] be5 taught any?+ on ?is subject1 b t gradually h] belief _h gr[n1 & t h] talks ) ,ru? _h help$ h] f h] ideas4 ,i said _m p believ$ 9 8p]sonal0 immortality2 t is1 immortality ) memory1 & ! meet+ ( ^? we love4 ,i d n pret5d to "k1 or to h a def9ite op9ion4 ,b ,i ?9k ! results ( life are et]nal1 ev5 if n 9 precise memories4 ,i ask$ ! *ildr5 = op9ions4 ,none ( !m seem$ to believe1 or c>e to believe1 9 di/9ct p]sonal immortality4 ,ru? said3 8,we w\ld surely meet ^? we _h lov$1 9 t complete :ole self1 ev5 ?\gh x 7 n z p]sons40 ,i 0 surpris$ & glad to he> h] say x4 ,i _h said to ! *ildr5 t !y probably believ$1 & might easily believe1 mu* beyond :at ,i told !m1 b ?is 0 all :i* ,i believ$2 ,i w\ld tell !m no !ories or surmises ( m9e1 ( :i* ,i c\ld n feel c]ta94 ,!y 7 urg5t 9 ask+ me please to tell !m "s !ories1 b ,i refus$4 ,virg9ia said %e believ$ 9 transmigration4 ,i ?9k x possible1 z ,i told h]2 x is 9 e way consi/5t ) progress & all ?+s 9 life1 b ,i h no reason = feel+ sure ( x4 ,%e said3 8,x mu/ be true1 = if !re is j s mu* _s 9 ! _w1 =ev] & ev]1 & if x mu/ express itself ?r\gh matt]1 h[ c !re be any?+ b transmigration8 ,"s "t we may all live aga9 on "s o!r planet1 9 "s o!r %ape40 ,i said x might be s4 ,! *ildr5 ask$ me :e!r ,i believ$ animals 7 immortal4 ,i answ]$ t z mu* life & self z is 9 !m mu/ be immortal4 ,i obs]v$ t ?is idea ( animal-immortality 0 consi/5t ) ,virg9ia's belief 9 transmigration1 t s ea* lea/ creature might rise ?r\gh successive /ages t[>d its complete self4 ,!n ,i said to ! *ildr5 t1 ( c\rse1 if we believ$ we _h be5 no?+ be=e we 7 born1 we c\ld easily believe 9 ext9ction4 ,b ,i1 = "o1 believ$1 yes1 knew1 t ,i _h be5 =ev]1 t ,i 0 n 8made0 9 ^! few ye>s4 8,yes10 said ,m>ian1 8,i c\ld n h gr[n to be :at ,i am1 j s9ce ,i 0 born40 ,h5ry said3 8,we are n conc]n$ ) ! pa/1 b ) ! future40 ,virg9ia1 & ! o!rs1 br\ght up in/ances ( seem+ to rememb] ?+s f a =m] life1 ( feel+ z if !y _h done "s p>ticul> ?+ be=e1 9 ! dim pa/4 ,alfr$ _h n spok5 at all dur+ ?is "t4 ,he n[ said he v mu* wi%$ he c\ld believe 9 immortality1 b c\ld n see any reason = do+ s4 ,i said we %\ld h to sp5d ! next meet+ 9 conv9c+ ,alfr$4 ,i w5t on3 8,if we believe 9 ! va/ ,self ( life1 & if we are a "p ( t awak5+ ,self1 h[ c we die80 ,!n ,i read al\d ,emily ,bront's 8,la/ ,l9es40 ,i 0 glad to leave ! subject op5 9 ?is fa%ion1 to give !m a week = ?\ght1 & ,i said little m4 ,,six? ,,meet+ ,i began by read+ ! *ildr5's pap]s4 ,virg9ia wrote ! foll[+3 8,"s p h ! idea t to pray means to fall ^u "o's knees1 fold "o's h&s1 lift "o's eyes to heav51 & mutt] "s words "o doesn't und]/&1 sometimes 9 a =eign tongue4 ,i don't agree ) !m4 ,unconsci\s pray] is ! only true pray]2 at lea/1 s ,i believe4 ,9 a great crisis a man does n g on 8 knees1 or1 if he does1 he is n pray+ :at he is say+1 :i* is a m]e p>rot-cry4 ,8 pray] is :at he is ?9k+1 & :at is 9 8 he>t4 8,_m p say a pray] e night4 ,9 mo/ cases ?is is n a true pray]1 b /ill x br+s peace & calmness1 & x is lovely to be 9 a calm /ate be=e go+ to sleep4 ,i ?9k ! reason = ?is is t ! p]son :o prays be=e go+ to sleep ?9ks himself s virtu\s t he is at peace ) ! :ole _w4 ,!n aga91 ! p]son :o goes to *ur* e "t he commits a s91 & prays = =giv5ess1 becomes c>eless ( ! wrong he does4 ,= c he n pray & be =giv5 )\t ! lea/ tr\ble80 ,we _h a good laugh ov] ,virg9ia's idea ( pray]1 :i* seem$ to be *iefly h] idea ( o!r p's pray]4 ,!n ,i read ,h5ry's pap]3 8,e man mu/ decide = himself :e!r or n he %all pray1 = no "o else c tell him1 s9ce x is a matt] ( feel+4 ,if a man is reliev$ by pray]1 !n let him pray2 b if he only prays f habit1 he is do+ wrong4 8,we mu/ n expect t our pray]s w be answ]$ by t sup]ior p[] :i* we call ,god1 = ?is w only happ5 :5 we make up our m9ds to ga9 our end1 & put our he>t & _s 9 ! "w4 ,!re is a say+1 #8,god helps ^? :o help !mselves4' 8,"s p l to put _! pray]s 9 words1 :ile o!rs l to ?9k !m & feel !m4 ,/ill o!rs l to put out ( _! m9ds = a "t all e>?ly tr\bles1 & j ?9k ( & feel t k9dness & sympa?y = _! fell[ man2 & to ?9k ( ! great spiritual que/ions :i* %\ld h su* great influ5ce on ! lives ( ev]ybody1 & 9 ?is way let t _s )9 !m get complete control ( !m1 & t is _! way ( pray+4 8,no "o c say :i* way is ! "r way1 b if y d x 9 t way :i* does y ! mo/ good1 = y x w be ! "r way40 ,h5ry said he ?\ght kneel+1 & ! attitude ( pray]1 7 a 8pretty0 cu/om4 ,!y 7 ! attitude ( supplication4 ,i que/ion$ :e!r ! be/ 8pray]0 0 a supplication1 said ,i did n l ! ^w 8pray]0 = t reason4 ,virg9ia said %e ?\ght we (t5 8felt0 a supplication1 ev5 if we did n pray nor expect an answ]4 ,m>ian _h tri$ to get ! 8pray]-feel+0 ea* night la/ week1 b _h n succe$$4 ,%e c\ld n get calm1 b ?\ght ( ev]y?+ "u ! sun1 & !n fell asleep4 ,virg9ia said3 8,y c't make y\r m9d a blank40 ,i answ]$3 8,mak+ y\r m9d a blank is n pray]40 ,h5ry ?\ght x good to consid] our spiritual problems j be=e go+ to sleep1 & s get into ! "r /ate ( m9d4 ,ru? agre$4 ,n[ ,i read ,m>ian's pap]3 8,at a meet+ ( ! ,seek]s on ,novemb] #h?1 we discuss$ ! subject ( ,pray]4 ,pray] is really a feel+4 ,:5 we feel truly 9 h>mony ) our inn] & our bigg] self1 ! feel+ we h is pray]4 ,pray] c be made a s\rce ( /r5g?4 ,if we f9d "s way to get into ! pray]-feel+ e day or at night1 x w be a great help to u4 ,z we rea*$ a conclusion on ?is subject v soon1 we began a discussion on ,immortality1 :i* we expect to f9i% next week40 ,n[ we spoke ( immortality4 ,al?\gh ! six ( u believ$ 9 x1 by try+ to conv9ce ,alfr$ we might ga9 mu*4 ,i ask$ :y1 or :e!r1 x 0 important to h an op9ion conc]n+ immortality4 ,m>ian said x 0 important = u to "k1 because we 7 int]e/$1 because we c>$ s mu*4 ,i answ]$1 t 0 "o reason1 & !n !re 0 ano!r4 ,ru? said ! o!r reason 0 t we act$ accord+ to our ideas ( dea?1 t x influ5c$ our morality4 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8we live accord+ to our expectations4 ,?9k ( h[ ! false or true ideas ( a future life influ5c$ morality 9 ages pa/1 ( ! morals1 good & bad1 :i* sprang f ! idea ( heav5 & hell6 ,alfr$1 d y ?9k x is important to "k80 8,yes10 said he1 8x is important2 b ,i c't come to any conclusion4 ,i am n conv9c$40 ,"s p feel sure "o _c "k any?+ ab\t immortality1 & t !re=e x is n wor? ?9k+ ( x at all4 ,h5ry said3 8,because "o does n "k a ?+ n[ is no reason :y "o %\ld n try to f9d out4 ,& ,i believe we %all "k1 "s "t4 ,if p _h felt s ab\t o!r equally difficult ?+s1 we w\ld nev] h got on40 ,i said3 8,:at is k8 ,we _c "k immortality z an exp]i5ce1 ?r\gh our s5ses2 b ,i believe we c "k ?r\gh our reason1 j z s mu* o!r sci5tific k is a matt] ( reason1 ( analogy1 ( d$uction4 ,x c't be prov$1 z "o might prove t two & two are f\r4 ,b !n ,i once read 9 a book t no?+ c\ld be prov$1 except ! ?+s n wor? prov+4 8,if we saw a r$ rose1 & we all call$ x a r$ rose1 !re w\ld be no d\bt ( its r$ness4 ,b if we diff]$1 & "s call$ x r$1 "s p9k1 "s yell[1 we %\ld soon be 9 grave d\bt4 ,our eyes might be wrong4 ,!re h be5 s _m op9ions reg>d+ immortality1 because p _h diff]5t #8eyes1' t n[ we are full ( d\bts40 ,we spoke ( ! "t :5 ! e>? 0 ?\ght flat because x look$ flat4 ,alfr$ said3 8,immortality ( :at1 d y mean80 8,immortality ( ev]y?+10 ,i answ]$4 8,we might1 ( c\rse1 believe t ! univ]se w die1 w be ext9ct4 ,b x is an un?9kable ?\ght4 ,we all believe 9 some?+ et]nal4 ,we "k t =ce does n die1 b is *ang$ & transmitt$2 we "k t no sub/ance is de/roy$2 we "k t e action1 e circum/ance has endless consequ5ces & endless antec$5ts4 ,!y--& ,i--are =ev] a "p ( ! univ]se4 ,h[ c\ld we be de/roy$8 ,:y %\ld we ?9k t ev]y?+ is immortal1 except+ self1 :i* seems ! motive =ce80 ,alfr$ said3 8,i don't believe x is de/roy$2 b x goes out ( me1 & t is ! end ( me40 ,! o!rs ask$ h[ ,alfr$ c\ld h agre$ ) u all s f>1 & n agree n[1 s9ce x seem$ to !m t :at we _h said be=e1 ! idea ( progress1 impli$ immortality4 ,h[ c\ld he believe 9 ! ,self z ,god1 ! va/ ,self :i* comes to complete und]/&+1 & yet believe t he1 :o 0 a "p ( x1 t 9 him1 & he 9 t1 c\ld be utt]ly de/roy$8 ,he said he believ$ new self 0 always com+ into ! univ]se1 & old self go+ out4 8,:]e w\ld x come f1 :]e w\ld x g80 ask$ ,virg9ia4 ,i said3 8,!re is no?+ b ! univ]se4 ,ev]y?+ is 9 x40 ,he answ]$ t he believ$ 9 progress1 progress t[>d unity & und]/&+1 b x pass$ f "o p]son to ano!r2 x w\ld n be himself4 8,h[ c\ld ! :ole ( ,self be complete unless y 7 !re80 ,i ask$4 8,i c't believe x10 he said4 8,i don't see h[ x c\ld be4 ,x w\ld n be myself40 8,no1 n y1 9 any def9ite s5se1 b self1 & y\rself 9 t4 ,b x does n matt] :e!r y disagree1 if y c really g onw>d ) u1 & believe ) u1 )\t believ+ y are immortal4 ,= all t matt]s is h[ we live n[4 ,x is n necess>y to "k ! future1 unless y ne$ x = ! pres5t4 ,:5 ,i say #8immortal' ,i mean we are immortal1 n[1 because ! univ]se is "h40 ,ru? ?\ght t life w\ld be mean+less if we 7 n immortal2 t all progress1 all goodness w\ld h no s5se4 ,%e said3 8,"o might live to d good1 j to be k9d to o!rs1 :o 7 also mortal4 ,b if t 7 ! end1 !re w\ld be no mean+ 9 x40 ,h5ry agre$ ) h]1 & mo/ ( ! o!rs express$ simil> ideas4 ,i said ?is did n prove we 7 immortal4 ,b ,i1 too1 felt a limit$ life to be mean+less4 ,/ill1 ,i want$ to "k ! tru?4 ,alfr$ saw he c\ld n consi/5tly believe 9 race immortality1 b he want$ to4 ,virg9ia said3 8,y "k ! sun w burn d[n "s "t4 ,e fire burns itself out4 ,!n ! _w w get cold & d>k4 ,& !n :at becomes ( ! human race80 8,b10 ,i said1 8! en]gy t 0 ! sun w be 9 ! univ]se1 & w light o!r suns40 8,en]gy nev] dies10 said ,virg9ia4 8,if ,i put out my arm l ?is10 & %e /ret*$ =? h] h&1 8! en]gy t goes out f me nev] dies4 ,x b\nds & reb\nds1 & 9 "s way goes on =ev]40 8,z x has be5 =ev] until n[10 ,i said4 8,no1 ,i ?9k x dies out10 said ,alfr$4 8,if y b\nce a ball1 x b\nds & reb\nds & !n /ops40 ,i expla9$ to him h[ en]gy is n de/roy$1 b transmitt$2 h[ no?+ is ev] de/roy$1 b all ?+s are *ang$4 ,he believ$ ! physical "p *ang$ & 0 n de/roy$4 ,/ill1 x 0 n life any m4 ,he said3 8,x is n ! same ?+4 ,i am myself n[1 b ,i am n ! same p]son ,i 0 z a little *ild4 ,i am all *ang$40 8,yes10 ,i answ]$ him1 8y\r body is diff]5t mat]ial1 y\r bra9 & y\r ?\ghts are n ! same1 y\r %ape is *ang$1 b y are /ill self1 & y 7 self !n40 8,b :5 ,i die1 :]e w ,i be80 8,i don't "k10 ,i said4 8,b ,i "k t someh[ y mu/ be40 ,virg9ia & ,alfr$--9 fact1 all ! *ildr5--_h a long discussion4 ,alfr$ said1 9 speak+ ( a horse :i* _h be5 buri$ 9 ! woods1 & ov] :i* f]ns _h gr[n1 8b ! f]ns 7 n ! horse0--a s5sible rem>k4 ,he said3 8,:5 y move y\r h&1 ! en]gy t goes onw>d is n ! h&4 ,& s1 :5 ,i die1 ! self t goes out ( me may be a =ce1 b x w g out ( me1 x w n be ,i40 8,b y y\rself10 ,i said1 8are ! life1 ! =ce1 ! self1 :i* goes =?1 :i* moves all ?+s40 ,"h ! *ildr51 be+ left to !mselves1 w5t up into ?9 air4 ,!y argu$ ! possibility ( no?+ness4 ,virg9ia told h[ :5 %e 0 a little *ild %e us$ to imag9e :at w\ld happ5 if !re 7 no e>?4 ,!y ea* describ$ h[ !y c\ldn't imag9e no?+1 & :at happ5$ :5 !y tri$4 ,ru? told h[ "o c\ldn't imag9e p]fect unity & und]/&+1 ei!r4 ,i /opp$ !m1 & said x made n ! lea/ diff]5ce 9 any fact :e!r !y c\ld or c\ldn't imag9e x4 ,virg9ia1 ! little arti/ & my/ic1 said %e ?\ght 9 *ildhood "o t\*$ ! tru? unconsci\sly4 ,! o!rs all d5i$ ?is4 ,i said x 0 a pleasant & com=table ?\ght4 ,n[ ,i said !re 0 "o o!r int]e/+ ?+ ,i want$ to speak (1 & t 0 memory4 ,mo/ p believe we rememb] no?+ f be=e bir?4 ,?is is n true4 ,our :ole body1 our v be+1 is a memory4 ,flor5ce said3 8,x is a race memory4 ,(t5 we f9d x easy to d a ?+ we nev] did be=e1 because our ance/ors did x40 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8in/9ct is a memory4 ,! fact t we are "h at all1 our m9ds1 our ?9k+1 z well z our bodies1 are a memory4 ,we ourselves1 our pres5t bodies1 are a consequ5ce ( ! lives be=e u1 a memory f ! endless pa/40 8,we are :at !y liv$10 said ,ru?1 8z our bodies %all be :at we live1 n :at we ?9k on ! surface1 b :at we live40 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8b aft] a :ile we d live our ?\ghts40 ,h5ry said life 0 a repetition ) progress4 8,b 9 ! "o-cell$ animal10 he ask$1 80 life an expression ( m9d80 8,i don't "k10 ,i said2 8b x seems to me self or w mu/ be at ! bottom ( all motion4 ,i read a !ory lately1 9 an #8evolution' book1 t 0 v int]e/+4 ,x is ?is3 ,t consci\sness or desire is ! s\rce ( all developm5t1 & t l[] creatures are consci\s ( acts :i* to u are automatic4 ,! l[e/ creature1 :i* is a m]e bag or /oma*1 w\ld !n be consci\s ( itself1 :]eas 9 u ! consci\sness ( primal organs is swamp$ & lo/ 9 our m int5se n]v\s consci\sness4 ,?us1 f ! fir/1 consci\sness & w might be ! s\rce ( progress1 z !y are n[40#b ,!y all ?\ght x a plausible & int]e/+ !ory4 ,m>ian said3 8,x seems likely4 ,= d n babies h difficulty 9 walk+1 & are consci\s ( e /ep1 :]eas we d x almo/ automatically80 8,yes10 ,i said2 8x might be ! same ) ! race40 ,i insi/$ t "o c\ld "k ! tru? 9 c]ta9 directions1 if "o 7 will+ to admit absolute ignorance 9 o!rs4 ,i felt sure ,i 0 immortal1 b ,i _h n ! lea/ idea h[4 ,i w\ld n build up a heav51 hell or univ]se ( ! dead1 because all ^! conjectures 7 likely to be false4 ,i said "o c\ld "k mu* & le>n m only by admitt+ "o's limitations4 ,( c\rse "o c\ld n "k1 ,i said1 b ,i myself did n believe 9 p]sonal immortality ) def9ite memory4 ,x might be s1 or x might n4 8,i ?9k x is n s10 said ,m>ian1 8= we rememb] no?+ def9ite f be=e bir?40 8,b10 ,i said1 8,i feel sure t memory1 ! ess5ce ( memory1 w g on2 j z our bodies & selves are a memory1 s :atev] we are 9 ?is life w h its consequ5ces1 & we w be =ev] accord+ to :at we are n[4 ,all progress is a memory--& a prophecy40 ,i spoke1 too1 ( ! endless /ream ( e lea/ action1 h[ ! lea/ ^w1 once spok51 is a spr+ ( et]nal consequ5ce1 h[ ea* mom5t is trem5d\sly important4 ,i rem9d$ ,m>ian h[ %e _h once said s*ool 0 s %ort1 x did n mu* matt] :at "o did2 & ,i _h answ]$ h]1 all life 0 %ort4 8,"s p ?9k actions "u c]ta9 conditions--9 =eign l&s1 = in/ance--d n c\nt40 ,virg9ia said %e liv$ to enjoy h]self1 no matt] :at dea? might be1 b h] enjoym5t includ$ mak+ o!rs happy4 ,i said1 t 0 ! only good way to live1 to enjoy oneself1 & h a v big idea ( :at enjoym5t meant4 ,9 talk+ we /umbl$ across difficult1 confus+ words1 8,god10 8tru?10 8et]nity40 ,ru? said3 8,we ought to inv5t a new language1 a code ( symbols1 = ev]y?+ 9 ! old language has s _m acquir$ mean+s1 is s us$ up40 8,we h made almo/ a code ( our own10 said ,m>ian4 ,alfr$ _h said no?+ to let me "k :e!r or n he _h be5 conv9c$ ( immortality4 ,x w be int]e/+ to he> :at he has ?\ght dur+ ! week4 ,we _h n[ f9i%$ ! fir/ & fundam5tal "p ( :at we meant to d2 we w\ld n[ te/ ev]y?+ by t /&>d4 8,x is /range10 said ,m>ian1 8h[ ev]y?+ we h said has sprung f j "o ?+40 8,:at is t80 ,i ask$4 8,our idea ( ,god10 %e answ]$4 ,i said t1 accord+ to my pr$iction1 we sc>cely f\nd x necess>y to use ! ^w ,god4 ,m>ian answ]$3 8,x is because ! ^w has s _m mean+s1 is s easily misund]/ood4 ,b we "k :at we mean )\t say+ x4 ,my ,sunday-s*ool tea*] said ,god took a p]sonal int]e/ 9 ea* "o4 ,i don't believe t10 %e w5t on1 8except z we are 9 ourselves1 & take an int]e/ 9 ourselves4 ,t idea ( h]s puts ,god1 z x 71 outside & ap>t40 ,i que/ion$ ,ru? conc]n+ ,*ri/ian ,sci5ce4 ,%e said our idea correspond$ altoge!r ) h]s2 x 0 ! application :i* w\ld probably diff]1 & we _h n yet spok5 ( t4 8,we w d s n[10 ,i answ]$4 ,i ask$ ! o!rs if !y w\ld n l to h ,ru? speak1 9 a meet+ lat] on1 ( ,*ri/ian ,sci5ce4 ,!y all said t !y w\ld l x4 ,next we w consid] art1 creative g5ius1 9 relation to our idea4 ,i 0 glad ! *ildr5 agre$ ) me 9 pref]r+ ?is to moral disputations4 ,i said ,i ?\ght ! long] we wait$ to speak ( moral que/ions1 ! l>g] view we w\ld take ( !m4 ,i want$ to avoid pett9ess4 ,our subject = next week grew naturally out ( ?is week's talk4 ,i said3 8,z a drop ( wat] c be a sph]e z p]fect z ! suns & planets1 s ea* smalle/ ?+1 if x be p]fect 9 itself1 typifies ! univ]se4 ,y mu/ realize t 9 an inf9ite univ]se !re is really no su* ?+ z size40 8,!re is only comp>ative size10 said ,virg9ia4 8,yes10 ,i answ]$2 8& x is ) ?is idea 9 m9d t ,i wi% to consid] beauty1 & ! def9ite sep>ate creation4 ,i %all want to "k next week :at ea* ( y means by beauty1 or ?9ks beautiful40 ,m>ian--?9k+ ( ! p]sonal side imm$iately--said3 8,i ?9k x's because mo/ p are homely1 t we ?9k "s beautiful40 ,we 7 amus$ at t4 ,i said ,i did n mean p]sonal beauty 9 p>ticul>4 ,!n !y ask$1 did ,i mean arti/ic beauty8 ,i meant beauty 9 any?+4 ,i w\ld want to "k :at made c]ta9 ?+s seem beautiful to u4 ,virg9ia said3 8,i ?9k !re is no?+ s beautiful z tak+ a deep1 deep brea?4 ,t br+s beautiful ?\ghts into my head1 & makes ev]y?+ "r40 ,?is rem>k did n seem p]t95t to any ( u4 ,virg9ia insi/$1 too1 t %e ?\ght a man 0 an arti/1 ev5 if he c\ld n express himself2 t to h arti/ic ?\ghts made "o an arti/4 ,i answ]$1 x might be s2 "w itself 0 n good art unless x 0 a good expression1 no matt] :at ! arti/ might be4 ,virg9ia expla9$3 8,i mean an arti/ is m int]e/+ ?an 8 "w1 sometimes40 ,flor5ce said3 8,a beautiful ?+--9 art--is a complete ?+1 complete & p]fect 9 itself40 8,i don't ?9k s10 answ]$ ,virg9ia4 8,if y 7 to sket* a tree--)\t f9i%+ x at all--& t sket* 7 y\r :ole idea ( ! tree z y saw x1 !n x w\ld be no sket*1 b a f9i%$ picture4 ,a ?+ is a sket* until y h altoge!r express$ y\r idea4 ,b !n1 no matt] h[ sket*y x may look1 x is f9i%$40 ,i _h to int]pret ,flor5ce to ,virg9ia4 ,i said3 8,flor5ce did n mean complet5ess 9 ! s5se ( exactness4 ,%e meant t ! tree1 no matt] h[ indicat$1 mu/ seem to u s complete1 9 a _w ( its own1 z to leave no?+ lack+ or intrud+2 t ev]y?+ 9 ! picture is !re 9 relation to ! tree1 & ! :ole makes a p]fect little _w4 ,if !re 7 sugge/ions ( o!r ?+s :i* _h no?+ to d ) ! tree1 su* z !re always are 9 life1 x w\ld n be a p]fect picture4 ,y said x mu/ be a complete expression ( ! arti/'s ?\ght4 ,t is j ! complet5ess ,flor5ce means4 ,x mu/ be a complete1 self-suffici5t h>moni\s vision ( a tree4 ,& h>mony means :ol5ess1 doesn't x80 8,= in/ance10 said ,flor5ce1 8ev5 ! smalle/ & mo/ trivial poem w\ld be beautiful if x 7 p]fect 9 itself--& complete4 ,take ,leigh ,hunt's #8,j5ny ,kiss$ ,me1' su* a little ?+1 & yet beautiful1 tell+ ! delights ( a kiss4 ,& !n take #8,fau/1' :i* is mu* l>g] & deep]2 & yet ea* is p]fect 9 its way1 ?\gh #8,fau/' expresses s mu* m40 8,h y read #8,fau/'80 ,i answ]$ h]4 8,no10 %e said1 8b ,i "k all ab\t x40 ,i knew t %e _h got h] ideas ready-made f 8bro!r ,ar?ur10 & ,i 0 amus$4 ,b ,i did n wi% to be hurri$ into ! mid/ ( my subject )\t beg9n+ at ! beg9n+1 s ,i cut ! discussion z %ort z might be4 ,m>ian said3 8,i don't und]/& :at !y mean40 ,i told h] %e w\ld und]/& :5 we _h talk$ x ov]1 t ,i only want$ h]1 be=e next week1 to settle h] own ideas z to :at %e ?\ght beautiful4 ,flor5ce repeat$3 8,beauty is complet5ess40 8,i ?9k10 said ,m>ian1 8,i beg9 to see :at ,flor5ce means by t4 ,l ! drop ( wat]40 ,i l to sugge/ ! subject = ! foll[+ week at ! close ( ea* meet+1 &1 if possible1 to speak en\gh ( x to give !m a />t+-place = _! ?\ghts4 ----- #b ,cope's !ory1 9 8,d>w9ism ,to-day10 ,kellog1 p4 #bhg4 ,,sev5? ,,meet+ ,ru? br\ght ) h] a 8,*ri/ian ,sci5ce0 pray]4 ,i said ,i w\ld read x al\d at ! meet+ on ,*ri/ian ,sci5ce4 ,"o l9e 9 ! pray] 01 8purifi$ f ! fle%40 ,ru? guess$1 be=e ,i said any?+1 t ,i object$ to ?is l9e4 ,%e believes ! body is 8some?+ to be ov]come40 ,all ! o!rs & myself disagre$ ) h]4 ,i said3 8,i1 :o believe 9 endless progress1 believe ! means !mselves to be good & wond]ful4 ,unless ?is mom5t 7 good1 no?+ x l$ to c\ld be :olly good40 ,ru? said3 8,! body is some?+ unreal1 uness5tial1 :i* we d n keep40 ,i answ]$3 8,we keep no?+ b :at we always possess$1 ! p[] ( gr[?40 ,ru? says we get c]ta9 new tru?s1 & !n keep !m4 ,%e tries to ?9k t my idea & ,*ri/ian ,sci5ce agree 9 e way1 except t we use diff]5t language4 ,b %e has d\bts & qualms4 ,!n we spoke ( 8,new ,?\ght40 ,i said ,i ?\ght mo/ ( :at is call$ s 0 unansw]ably true1 only !re seem$ to be an enmity betwe5 8,new ,?\ght0 & good ,engli%4 ,m>ian agre$ ) me4 ,%e said %e c\ld h no respect = a man :o us$ poor ,engli%4 ,i w\ld n say t1 = ,i _h receiv$ too mu* in=mation f m5 :o did n "k h[ to give x4 ,b1 ,i said1 ,i _h (t5 miss$ in=mation r ?an rewrite a book = myself m5tally1 be=e ,i c\ld read x4 ,m>ian's fa!r _h read al\d to h]1 f a 8,new ,?\ght0 book1 ?is s5t5ce3 8,! se5 is unreal1 & ! unse5 is real40 8,i don't believe t10 %e said4 8,d y80 8,no10 ,i answ]$2 8,i believe ev]y?+ is real1 ! se5 & ! unse54 ,!re is no?+ b reality40 ,i also said my *ief objection to all ^! cults 0 t !y insi/$ too (t5 on physical heal? z ! aim ( life4 ,virg9ia said3 8,b j ?9k1 if we _h n to be conc]n$ ab\t our bodies any m1 if we 7 p]fectly well1 h[ mu* we c\ld d60 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8t is true2 b /ill x is n an end1 b only a means40 ,?is 0 all be=e ! meet+4 ,alfr$ _h come v e>ly1 z usual1 & told me he 8?\ght0 he believ$ z ,i did conc]n+ immortality4 ,i op5$ ! meet+ by read+ ,m>ian's pap]3 8,on ,sunday1 ,novemb] #ae?1 ! ,seek]s held a regul> meet+4 ,our discussion 0 on ,immortality4 ,mo/ ( u agre$ t our self1 our real or inn] self1 is immortal4 ,9 ! fir/ place1 if ?is self 9 u & 9 e "o %\ld die !re w\ld be no?+ left1 because t is ! real1 ! life-giv+ p[]4 ,moreov]1 if we 7 n immortal1 :at w\ld be ! use ( life8 ,"s p argue t we leave "p ( ourselves & ! impressions ( our *>act]s to o!r g5]ations1 & s on4 ,h[ev]1 sci5ce has 7almo/7 prov$ t ! race is n immortal1 & at lea/1 x is h>d] to believe t x is1 ?an to believe 9 ! immortality ( ! real self4 ,p]sonally1 ,i feel t my real self is immortal1 & t ,i w g on be+4 ,we d n attempt to picture any future /ate4 ,?is discussion is ! only "o 9 :i* we did n all agree40 ,next ,i read ,h5ry's pap]3 8,to-day we cont9u$ our talk on ,immortality4 ,immortality is entirely a matt] ( fai?1 b ! diff]5t ideas conc]n+ x h influ5c$ ! fates ( nations4 8,! m9d realizes s mu* t x does n accompli%1 t x seems z ?\gh !re mu/ be a cont9uance ( spiritual action aft] :at we call dea?4 ,if ! _s did n cont9ue to exi/1 :at w\ld be ! purpose ( our life8 ,"s say our purpose is to pave ! walk ( life = our desc5dants4 ,inde$1 we d want ^? :o come aft] u to f9d life pleasant & wor? :ile liv+1 b t alone w\ld n be a suffici5t purpose1 = :y ne$ !re be desc5dants8 ,:y 0 !re anybody 9 ! beg9n+8 ,& besides ?is1 we h m reason to believe 9 ! mortality ( ! race ?an = any ( our beliefs 9 reg>d to ! s\l4 ,sci5ce tea*es u t c]ta9 ( ! planets1 :i* 7 once habitable1 are n[ no long] s4 ,?is may "s day happ5 to our planet1 & !n ! race = :i* we h work$ w cease to be4 ,al?\gh we d live = ! race1 we live m = ! _s4 ,we h already said t we are "p ( "o great union4 ,if ?is is true !re mu/ be immortality1 = :5 "p ( ! _s ceas$ to be1 !re w\ld no long] be a great1 p]fect union40 ,i said to ,h5ry3 8,y\r pap]s nev] beg9 z if !y 7 go+ to be "r1 b !y end especially well4 ,y always keep ! be/ = ! la/40 ,n[ we w5t on to our subject ( beauty4 ,:at1 ,i ask$1 0 ! "o truly beautiful p]fect ?+1 ! ?\ght ( :i* gives u m delight ?an any o!r8 ,!y said--bit by bit--t x 0 complete und]/&+1 unity1 sympa?y4 ,i said ,i believ$ e beautiful ?+ 0 "o :i* symboliz$ ?is complet5ess1 some?+ t 9 itself seem$ complete & p]fect & fulfill$4 ,x took "s "t to expla9 ?is4 ,flor5ce1 ( c\rse1 already und]/ood x4 ,virg9ia & ,m>ian caught at x z a new & elusive & valuable idea4 ,all except ,h5ry saw :at ,i meant4 ,m>ian _h said1 ev5 be=e ,i express$ ?is idea1 t beauty 0 symmetry4 ,h5ry said3 8,i don't see :at y mean1 or :y y ne$ "q x4 ,a beautiful ?+ is "o t gives u a ?rill ( delight40 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8c]ta9ly4 ,t is l say+ a ?+ is r$ because x has a r$ color4 ,:at ,i want to "k is :y ?+s delight u ) _! beauty1 s t we may make a /&>d f ^!1 :]eby to judge all ?+s40 ,i /opp$ !m :5 !y began to speak ( special works ( art1 because1 ,i insi/$1 we w\ld fir/ speak ( beauty 9 all ?+s 9 ! _w4 ,virg9ia said3 8,:5 ,i am 9 a field among animals1 play+ ) !m all1 t to me seems beautiful4 ,i d feel sympa?y ) !m1 b x isn't complet5ess40 8,no10 ,i answ]$1 8& x isn't beautiful1 ?\gh x is delightful 9 ano!r way4 ,beauty is some?+ ap>t f u1 :i* we see & he>1 & :i* wakes 9 u a s5se ( complet5ess1 ( h>mony )9 itself1 z if !re 7 ! :ole _w1 no?+ lack+1 nor yet too mu*4 ,a l&scape1 = in/ance40 8,x is sometimes n beautiful at all10 said ,h5ry4 8,no10 ,i answ]$1 8surely n4 ,a l&scape1 no matt] h[ beautiful & wond]ful1 w\ld be spoil$ by a big sign on ! ne>e/ tree1 adv]tis+ #8,babbitt's ,soap4'0 8,or a sign #8,to ,let1'0 said ,h5ry4 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8?\gh t might n be z bad1 yet t1 too1 w\ld be inh>moni\s1 & sugge/ all sorts ( irrelevant ?+s40 8,b10 said ,h5ry1 8a burnt wood is h>moni\s1 ,i suppose1 & yet x w\ld be ugly40 8,n always10 said ,i1 8n if x 7 bl5d$ into ! l&scape1 & mell[$40 8,no10 ,h5ry answ]$1 8p]haps n1 if ! colors 7 beautiful40 8,b if x 7 ugly10 ,i said1 8x w\ld be inh>moni\s4 ,a newly burnt =e/ sugge/s dea? & desolation 9 ! mid/ ( life & summ]--an incongruity4 ,x sugge/s de/ruction :]e ! ?\ght is mo/ unwelcome & horrible40 8,!n10 said ,m>ian1 8x is n ! ?+ itself1 b ! feel+ :i* x gives u1 t is beautiful40 8,yes10 ,i said1 8x gives u ! ?rill ( t complete joy4 ,we seem to see some?+ :i* is :at _c be2 complete h>mony4 ,! sight ( ! sea makes ,virg9ia feel s4 ,& y1 ! out-(-doors40 ,virg9ia said3 8,i h sometimes ?\ght beauty is light1 because ! sun is mo/ beautiful--&1 at night1 ! moon40 8,b10 said ,i1 8if !re 7 no %ad[s & no d>kness1 sun & moon w\ld n be beautiful40 8,!n contra/80 %e ask$4 ,i said3 8,!re mu/ be contra/ 9 all beautiful ?+s1 because )\t contra/ we c\ld n h complet5ess40 8,yes10 %e said1 89 pictures x is s40 8,a small ?+10 ,i w5t on1 8might symbolize complet5ess1 z well z a l>ge "o4 ,a dog1 9 8 way1 a beautiful ,scot* collie1 = in/ance1 might be z beautiful z a man40 8,yes1 inde$10 said ,ru?4 ,we criticiz$1 & f\nd lack+1 accord+ to our /&>d1 ! beauty ( prize bulldogs2 ! tee? 7 too sugge/ive ( /rife & bit+1 ! spots unsymmetrical1 & s on4 ,!y spoke ( _m in/ances ( beauty 9 ?+s1 especially ! beauty ( little *ildr51 & fitt$ !m to ?is new /&>d4 ,m>ian said3 8,a drop ( wat] is s symmetrical & h>moni\s1 s beautiful 9 ! sun%9e2 & yet1 on a d>k day1 on ! sidewalk1 x is n beautiful40 ,i expla9$ ev5 t4 ,i %[$ h] h[ a drop on ! sidewalk 0 n a drop1 b a daub1 h[ x sugge/$ all sorts ( ugly & incongru\s ?+s4 8,b10 ,i said1 8if we take ! tr\ble to look at a drop hang+ f any?+1 say f a leaf1 we %all always f9d x beautiful40 ,%e agre$ to t4 ,!n %e said3 8,don't y ?9k we sometimes d ?9k ( our own life z a beautiful ?+80 8,yes10 ,i answ]$4 8,!re are mom5ts :5 our own life sudd5ly seems complete1 :5 we feel an arti/'s delight 9 x1 & = a :ile we1 & ! :ole _w ) u1 seem to h rea*$ :at we long$ =40 ,flor5ce ask$3 8,don't y ?9k x is usually :5 we are hav+ a v good1 jolly "t80 ,m>ian answ]$ quickly3 8,no1 n at all40 ,i und]/ood :at ,m>ian meant1 & did n attempt1 naturally1 to expla9 x to ! o!rs4 ,n[ we all agre$1 e "o ( u1 t complet5ess & h>mony 7 beauty4 ,b ! *ildr5 _h />t$ "t & aga9 to br+ up in/ances 9 art :i* to !m seem$ n to fit1 & :i* !y ?or\ghly misund]/ood4 8,y see10 ,i said1 8t ! beautiful ?+ is ! same z t :i* seems to u mo/ true & good40 ,m>ian said aga9 t "o idea seem$ to cov] ev]y?+1 & t we came to conclusions quickly4 8,n[ ,i w tell y10 ,i said1 8:at ,i mean by art & ! arti/4 ,9 speak+ ( art "h to-day ,i mean n only pa9t+--z "o ( y ?\ght--b ev]y?+ :i* expresses beauty2 poetry1 ! novel & drama1 sculpture1 music1 act+4 ,y see ! diff]5ce betwe5 sci5ce & art80 8,sci5ce gives u k10 said ,m>ian4 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8or1 r1 sci5ce gives u facts1 tru?s1 b nev] at all ! complete tru?4 ,x gives u p>ts z p>ts1 nev] ! :ole4 ,philosophy1 on ! o!r h&1 does :at we are do+ "h4 ,x rea*es out = ! complete :ole1 = und]/&+1 = unity1 b x kn[s well t x c nev] atta9 ! end4 ,x rea*es out = ! complete good1 & is satisfi$ ) no?+ less ?an t unatta9able :ole4 ,b art does ano!r ?+2 x tells u a lie--! mo/ wond]ful lie 9 ! _w--tru] ?an any tru?4 ,x says3 ,look1 "h is complet5ess1 h>mony1 :ol5ess1 9 ?is "o small %ape4 ,& we "k x _c be s1 b /ill we feel x to be !re4 ,t lie gives u1 z no tru? c1 ! ?+ we long =1 & "k to be mo/ true4 8,n[1 :at d y mean by ! ^w g5ius8 ,:at is g5ius80 ,i ask$4 8,usually10 said ,virg9ia1 8a g5ius is a crank4 ,!re is a girl 9 my art class :o is ! fr\sie/1 que]e/ crank 9 ! _w1 & e "o calls h] a g5ius40 8,g5iuses are (t5 que]10 said ,h5ry4 ,ru? said1 too1 t _m g5iuses 7 any?+ b great & good 9 _! private lives4 8,well10 ,i answ]$1 8,i am surpris$ by y\r def9ition ( a g5ius4 ,b p]haps y w be m surpris$1 & sorry y said s mu*1 :5 ,i tell y t ,i consid] e "o ( y a g5ius40 8,oh1 my10 said ,virg9ia1 8h[ nice6 ,i wi% ,i 740 ,i said3 8,:at we usually call g5ius is b a l>g] p[] ( und]/&+1 a s5se ( unity1 ( ! relations ( ?+s4 ,& we all h t1 9 "s degree4 ,s we all h g5ius4 ,x is n a matt] ( quality b ( quantity4 ,we are all ! same /uff1 only "s m & "s less40 ,h5ry said ,i might use ! ^w 9 t s5se1 b he didn't ?9k x 0 ! true mean+4 ,he said3 8,:at def9ition is 9 ! diction>y80 ,we _h no diction>y at h&1 s ,i tri$ to prove my def9ition true )\t a diction>y1 & ,i succe$$4 ,i said3 8,!re is no gulf betwe5 ! g5ius & ! /upid look]-on4 ,don't y see :y !re c\ld n be80 8,i see10 said ,m>ian2 8x is because ! look]-on w\ld h to h "s g5ius1 or else----0 ,%e c\ld n f9i%4 8,j s1 ,m>ian10 ,i w5t on2 8or else he c\ld n appreciate ! arti/'s "w4 ,x is ! g5ius 9 ! onlook] t appreciates ! g5ius 9 ! arti/4 ,& 9 s f> z y c appreciate ! g5ius ( ,%akespe>e1 9 s f> y h ! same sort ( g5ius40 8,!n10 said %e1 8art makes u recognize ourselves40 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8our bigg] selves40 8,s "o might speak10 %e said1 8( a p]son develop+ 8 g5ius = music1 or 8 g5ius = pa9t+1 & s on80 8,yes10 ,i answ]$2 8& y see h[ easily & well "o c use ! ^w 9 t s5se40 ,ru? ask$3 8,if ! great g5ius is really "o :o und]/&s bett] ?an ! re/ ( u1 & has a m h>moni\s vision1 h[ is x t s _m g5iuses are incomplete & v imp]fect 9 _! p]sonal lives80 8,i ?9k x is10 ,i said1 8= ! same reason t ,i gave y = disease 9 highly develop$ be+s40 8,i see10 said ,m>ian2 8x is "o "p develop$ at ! exp5se ( ano!r40 ,!y want$ to "k :y s _m arti/s 7 peculi>1 erratic1 8,bohemian0--,m>ian us$ t ^w4 ,virg9ia spoke aga9 ( ! happy-g-lucky p d[n at ! art league4 ,i said ,i ?\ght "o reason = ?is mann] among arti/s 0 t1 z !y 7 always look+ = ! new1 ! beautiful--:i* is ev] new--!y _h no pati5ce ) s-call$ respectable p1 :o clung to old ?+s because !y 7 old1 & s ^! arti/s (t5 purposely w5t to ! o!r extreme4 ,i said3 8,y mu/ see t !re is ! t5d5cy 9 all ( u to make ( life a "w ( art1 to live a complete1 beautiful life40 8,i "k "s p10 said ,virg9ia1 8^: lives d n seem to me 9 ! lea/ arti/ic40 8,t may be10 ,i answ]$1 8b ! t5d5cy is !re to make ( life a complete expression40 8,t isn't all ,i mean10 said ,m>ian4 8,i want to "k :at is meant by ! arti/ic temp]am5t40 8,x is 9 great "p10 ,i said1 8a fiction & a false g5]alization4 ,_m exp]ts h n ! arti/ic temp]am5t1 & _m n-arti/s h x4 ,z = arti/s go+ a/ray m (t5 ?an o!rs1 if t be true--:i* ,i d\bt--!re's a good reason = x4 ,arti/s are always v s5sitive--naturally--& s1 unless !y are v /rong-will$1 too1 !y w be m easily sway$ by outside ev5ts & _! impressions40 8,i don't believe e "o has g5ius10 ,virg9ia said4 8,i "k "s p :o are p]fectly /upid1 & don't und]/& any?+40 8,t is sc>cely possible10 ,i answ]$1 8if !y are human be+s40 8,d y mean to say10 ask$ ,h5ry1 8t y "k any utt]ly selfi% p]son80 8,yes10 %e answ]$2 8or1 at lea/1 p :o are n int]e/$ 9 any?+ wor? :ile outside !mselves2 p :o c walk ?r\gh an art gall]y & n look at ! pictures2 :o love no?+ beautiful40 8,i may be "o ( ^?10 said ,ru?1 8= ,i d n c>e = pictures40 8,"o's g5ius might n be develop$ 9 t p>ticul> direction10 ,i said2 8none ( u are develop$ 9 all directions4 ,b grant1 at lea/1 ,virg9ia1 t y\r mo/ /upid p h undevelop$ g5ius :i* might be awak5$40 8,all "r10 %e said4 8,because if y don't10 ,i answ]$1 8,i %all ?9k y\r und]/&+ ( ^? p is v limit$4 ,g5ius does n necess>ily %[ itself 9 relation to art1 to ! s5se ( beauty4 ,g5ius is 9 ! und]/&+ a man mu/ h to be a man4 ,h[ c\ld he h any relations ) 8 fell[s1 any int]c\rse )\t "s und]/&+8 8,b !re is "o ess5tial diff]5ce betwe5 ! g5ius ( ! look]-on & ! g5ius ( ! arti/2 x is t ! arti/ creates1 t he mu/ h tal5t4 ,no matt] h[ mu* g5ius a man may h1 if he does n or _c express 8 g5ius1 he is n an arti/40 8,d y ?9k10 ask$ ,m>ian1 8t an arti/ kn[s himself to be a great g5ius80 8,i ?9k10 ,i answ]$ h]1 8t no man ev] does a great ?+ unless he fir/ believes he c d x4 8,y rememb]1 ,i once said t to und]/& life well "o mu/ be creative1 "o mu/ d ?+s1 because life is =ev] creat+4 ,& s ! g5ius :o is an arti/1 :o has tal5t1 :o creates1 by t v creation und]/&s bett] ?an o!r m54 ,he :o c draw a ?+ sees x bett] ?an he :o _c40 8,yes10 said ,virg9ia1 8! fact t he c draw x proves t he sees x bett]40 8,& 9 le>n+ to draw x10 ,i w5t on1 8he came to see x bett]40 8,! great arti/10 said ,h5ry1 8is "o :o expresses 8 idea p]fectly40 8,!n10 ,virg9ia said1 8,i wond] if ,i w ev] get to be a great arti/4 ,= ! ?+ ,i draw is nev] ! ?+ t 0 9 my m9d40 8,n[10 said ,i1 8y see ! di/9ction betwe5 g5ius & tal5t4 ,g5ius is ! p[] ( und]/&+4 ,tal5t is ! p[] ( expression4 ,a man may h v little to say1 & yet say x wond]fully well4 ,& ano!r man may h mu* to say1 & m>vell\s und]/&+ ( life1 b n ne>ly s great p[] ( expression4 ,t is :at ,flor5ce meant ! o!r day1 :5 %e spoke ( #8,j5ny ,kiss$ ,me1' & ( #8,fau/4' ,b ! man :o expresses ev5 ! smalle/ ?+ well und]/&s1 at lea/1 t ?+4 ,! p[] ( expression itself implies und]/&+ & a s5se ( unity & h>mony4 ,= no matt] h[ well a man may be able to draw l9es & objects1 unless he und]/&s composition--:i* is ! k ( h>mony & complet5ess--he _c pa9t a good picture4 ,& no matt] h[ well a man may write ,engli%1 h[ev] p]fect 8 /yle may be1 unless he und]/&s some?+ ( life1 ( symmetry & /ructure1 he _c write a good book40 ,h5ry said3 8,poe express$ himself v well4 ,0 he a g5ius80 8,n[1 /op10 ,i answ]$4 8,don't ask1 #8,0 he a g5ius8' ,( c\rse1 he 0 t4 ,we all h g5ius4 ,! "q is1 h[ mu*80 8,x seems to me10 said ,h5ry1 8t 9 "s way ,poe 0 z great z ,%akespe>e40 8,yes10 ,i said1 89 "s ways2 & t is a v good example4 ,poe's p[] ( expression may h be5 z great 9 "s ways z ,%akespe>e's4 ,b j ?9k h[ immeasurably great] 0 ,%akespe>e's g5ius1 8 und]/&+1 & grasp ( life60 8,poe1 = in/ance10 said ,h5ry1 80 a great ma!matician1 & us$ 8 d$uctions 9 8 /ories40 ,! o!rs told ,h5ry ?is _h no?+ to d ) 8 g5ius4 ,!y _h a long talk on ! relative g5ius--t is1 und]/&+ ( life--( ,poe & ,haw?orne1 & br\ght up _m in/ances4 ,m>ian said3 8,0 ,milton a great g5ius80 8,:at d y ?9k80 ,i ask$4 8,i suppose he 010 %e said1 8b ,i don't ?9k he _h a great und]/&+ ( human life40 8,h y read #8,p>adise ,lo/'80 ,i ask$ h]4 8,yes10 %e answ]$4 8,!n y mu/ h notic$ 8 wond]ful sympa?y )1 & und]/&+ (1 ! devil himself4 ,he saw ! trem5d\s contra/s ( life1 & und]/ood !m40 8,i mu/ read t10 said ,virg9ia1 8if he wrote ) und]/&+ sympa?y ( ! devil4 ,don't y ?9k10 %e ask$1 8t ^? :o write books = *ildr5 g5]ally und]/& life v well1 & h true g5ius80 8,p]haps10 ,i said4 8,:at d y ?9k8 ,h[ ab\t ^? arti/s :o write = *ildr5 9 ! ,sunday comic pap]s80 ,n[ ,i spoke ( ! arti/ 9 u all1 :o sees ?+s ev] z di/9ct :oles1 :o picks out1 z he goes ?r\gh life1 complete visions ( beauty to reproduce 9 8 m9d4 ,^! visions h to be di/ant1 sep>ate f himself4 ,= life is s di/ract+ & full ( contradictory passions1 s va/1 &1 z we "k x 9 our limit$ lives1 s incomplete1 t we mu/ get rid ( x1 we mu/ sep>ate ourselves1 ) our univ]sal & unf9i%$ relations1 f ! p]fect & :ole beauty :i* we wi% to see 9 ! arti/ic vision4 8,y mu/ h notic$10 ,i said1 8& y h (t5 he>d1 t f>-(f ?+s are mo/ beautiful4 ,x is because our life1 int]wov5 ) endless di/ract+ circum/ances1 does n seem to t\* ^? f>-(f ?+s40 8,autumn leaves10 said ,m>ian1 8f> (f look s beautiful1 & ne> by are full ( imp]fections40 ,virg9ia said3 8,& p]fection ( detail 9 a picture1 z if ! ?+s 7 v ne> & real1 does n make x bett]4 ,x does n seem good4 ,y "k ,millet's #8,s[]1' at ! ,metropolitan ,museum3 :5 y g close1 x is all /reaks40 8,?is dimness ( detail is = two reasons1 9 mo/ great pictures10 ,i said4 8,fir/1 ! arti/ (t5 pa9ts a picture ) ! int5tion ( hav+ x look$ ^u f a di/ance4 ,second1 9 ! p]fect :ole1 detail is m]g$4 ,all mu/ bl5d & h>monize40 8,i nev] ?\ght ( t10 said ,virg9ia4 8,! too precise details 9 a picture attract a p]son's att5tion1 & want to be look$ at = _! own sake1 & s break 9 on ! h>mony & :ol5ess ( ! picture40 8,yes1 j s10 ,i answ]$4 ,i spoke aga9 ( ! sublime lie ( art--! untru? :i* is mo/ true4 ,i said3 8,i once _h an ,engli% tea*] :o us$ to tell u t 9 art "o 0 n to give ! tru?1 b ! impression ( tru?4 ,tru?s (t5 break 9 & de/roy ! impression ( t :ole tru?4 8,n[10 ,i ask$1 8:at is ! "o1 ! only object1 ( art 9 ! _w80 ,we decid$1 all ( u1 t x 0 complete und]/&+ & sympa?y4 ,art is a symbol ( t complet5ess = :i* our :ole life longs4 ,"o ( !m--,i ?9k x 0 ,h5ry--said its aim 0 progress4 ,i said x 0 r ! pictur+ & prophecy ( ! end & aim ( progress itself4 ,!y _h probably he>d1 ,i said1 ( 8art = art's sake10 ! cant ( ^? :o believ$ m]e =m & expression to be ! :ole ( art1 & left out ( acc\nt ! ?+ express$4 ,virg9ia misund]/ood me to say3 8,art = its own sake10 q a diff]5t ?+4 ,s1 ?9k+ ,i w\ld agree ) h]1 %e quot$1 ) disapproval1 an article by ,k5yon ,cox1 say+3 8,he :o work$ = gold sold himself1 & he :o work$ = fame 0 utt]ly lo/40 ,i said ,i q agre$ ) him2 t unless "o work$ fir/ ( all = ! sake ( expression1 & ! joy ( x1 he 0 no arti/4 8,&1 mean:ile1 8 wife & *ildr5 might be />v+10 %e answ]$4 8,x is praisewor?y10 ,i said1 8to support "o's wife & *ildr51 b x has no?+ to d ) art40 ,i said a man might well use 8 expression to e>n himself bread2 t x 0 necess>y & natural1 & _h (t5 ev5 spurr$ a man on to "w1 b t x c\ld n be 8 fir/ aim if he 7 an arti/4 ,we spoke ( ,%akespe>e1 & ( ,goldsmi?1 & ( _! writ+ "u ! /ress ( pov]ty4 ,i po9t$ out h[1 nev]!less1 ^! m5 wrote ( ! ?+s !y lov$ & und]/ood1 & h[ ! joy ( "w mu/ h be5 _! fir/ aim4 ,i spoke ( play1 & ( art be+ l play2 ( ! old say+3 8,"w fir/1 !n play40 ,h5ry said t 0 meant = little *ildr54 ,i told !m h[ sci5ti/s tri$ to expla9 play by call+ x a prep>ation = "w4 ,virg9ia lik$ t idea4 ,i said t ,i ?\ght "w a prep>ation = play1 t play1 int]play1 ! joy ( creation1 0 life itself4 ,! *ildr5 easily und]/ood play 9 ?is s5se ( ! belov$ "w4 ,virg9ia said h] "w 0 all play4 ,i rem9d$ h] t %e might h to "w h>d1 b %e w\ld d x gladly = ! sake ( t play4 ,m>ian said h] s*ool-"w 0 almo/ always play4 ,ru? said3 8,i ?9k play & "w are ! same ?+1 & t we human be+s h made ! di/9ction ( words40 ,art _c rightly h any object b :ole repres5tation1 b expression ( ! und]/&+ ( life4 ,i said t :5ev] art tri$ to be moral--:i* 0 r ! bus9ess ( philosophy--x lo/ !reby2 t :5ev] "o took sides = a ?+1 "o took sides aga9/ some?+ else1 & _h lo/ ! complet5ess & symmetry ( art4 ,h5ry said he ?\ght art ought to tea* a lesson4 ,i answ]$3 8,art ought to %[ u ! :ole ( life1 :i* is beautiful40 ,virg9ia spoke ( ,dick5s' novels1 & said %e ?\ght ^? 7 be/ 9 :i* he wrote ) an object1 & aga9/ an abuse4 ,i answ]$ h] t !y 7 be/ & also wor/4 ,!y 7 be/ because he describ$ 9 !m ! life :i* he knew & lov$4 ,b ! p>ts ( ^! v good novels :i* 7 direct$ aga9/ any p or in/itutions 7 always bad1 in>ti/ic1 incongru\s4 ,z an example ,i quot$ ! dre>y diss]tations on ,*anc]y 9 8,bleak ,h\se10 & ^? :o _h read x imm$iately agre$ ) me4 ,h5ry & ,virg9ia que/ion$ me sev]al times conc]n+ ugly pictures :i* 7 consid]$ 8good art40 ,i told !m t a subject n usually ?\ght beautiful1 an old1 old woman1 = in/ance1 might be made beautiful by ! arti/'s insight4 ,i did n g into details1 h[ev]1 to-day4 ,a great _m ugly pictures1 su* z ! "w ( ,t5i]s1 ,/e51 & o!rs1 seem to me v bad art4 ,b n[ ,i spoke to !m ( ,wi]tz1 ! ,belgian1 :o seems to me no arti/ at all1 & conc]n+ :om !y _h bo? que/ion$ me4 ,i took z an example ( bad p>tisan art 8 picture ( ,napoleon 9 hell1 ) cr[ds ( poor p mak+ faces at him1 & pelt+ him ) brim/one4 ,su* a subject 9 itself is impossible to art4 ,:at c\ld be m un9tellig5t1 petty1 scatt]$ & ugly6 ,ru? said %e did n see :y an arti/ ne$ und]/& human nature especially well unless he 0 "o :o treat$ ( human nature2 t a musician1 = in/ance1 ne$ n d s4 ,i began my answ]1 b gave way to a bur/ ( en?usiasm f ,h5ry4 ,h[1 said he1 c\ld a musician n und]/& human nature1 he :o knew h[ to r\se u to ! dep?s ) 8 notes1 :o c\ld move u to te>s8 ,surely he knew :at he 0 do+1 & ! he>t :i* he /irr$4 ,ru? said %e did n see :y ,%akespe>e %[$ great] und]/&+ or complet5ess 9 8 "w ?an ,em]son1 = in/ance4 ,h5ry ?\ght ! same4 ,i tri$ to %[ !m t ,em]son 9 8 essays 0 n an arti/--or1 at lea/1 n ne>ly s mu* ( an arti/ z a philosoph]--t he /rove to rea* ! good1 ! complete h>mony ( ! univ]se1 b t he did n give u ! vision ( a pres5t1 f9i%$1 concrete beauty4 ,!y bo? ma9ta9$ t he did4 ,h5ry spoke ( ! essays on 8,fri5d%ip0 & 8,mann]s40 8,h y read ! essay on #8,mann]s'80 he ask$4 8,yes1 sev]al times10 ,i said4 8,& doesn't x give y a picture80 he ask$4 ,ru? add$3 8,& ! "o on fri5d%ip4 ,i seem to see t fri5d40 ,i own$ ,i did n feel s4 ,i said x gave me an inspiration1 an ideal ( conduct1 n a picture4 8,m9d y10 ,i said1 8:5 ,i call ,em]son m philosoph] ?an arti/1 ,i am n say+ philosophy is less ?an art40 8,no1 ,i und]/& t10 said ,ru?1 8b ,i1 = "o1 :5 ,i read ,%akespe>e1 get n any especial feel+ ( ! complet5ess or :ole und]/&+ ( :at ,i read4 ,em]son uplifts me mu* m1 & gives me p[] to d ?+s40 8,t may be10 ,i said4 8,y may rate ei!r z high or z l[ z y please1 b _! g5ius is diff]5t40 ,i po9t$ out1 too1 h[ 9 ,em]son's poetry1 ) its r>e1 beautiful c\plets1 & its _m lapses1 ! g5ius & philosoph] f> out%one ! man ( arti/ic tal5t4 ,we _h n "t to g into detail1 or to quote l>gely1 & ,i did n wi% to speak mu* ( lit]>y criticism & me?ods at ?is meet+1 = ,i _h plann$ to d s at ! next1 s ,i ?9k ,h5ry & ,ru? w5t home unconv9c$ ( ! arti/ic sup]iority ( ,%akespe>e ov] ,em]son4 ,"o might almo/ z pr(itably argue :o 0 a great] man1 ,bee?ov5 or ,napoleon6 ,m>ian ask$ me :e!r ,george ,eliot 0 an arti/ or a philosoph]4 ,i told h] ,i ?\ght %e 0 bo?1 b t ,i believ$ %e w\ld h be5 m ( an arti/ _h %e be5 less a philosoph]4 ,i ask$ ,alfr$ :y he _h kept s sil5t4 ,did he agree ) u8 8,yes10 he said1 8,i d4 ,x is v int]e/+4 ,b ,i don't talk unless ,i disagree40 ,,eigh? ,,meet+ ,h5ry came sev]al days ago to tell me he w\ld be unable to att5d ?is meet+1 z he 0 go+ to ,wa%+ton4 8,i w ?9k ( ! subject we 7 go+ to discuss10 he said4 ,i op5$ ! meet+ ) ,m>ian's pap]3 8,at a meet+ ( ! ,seek]s1 held on ,novemb] #bb;d1 we discuss$ ! relation :i* our previ\s discussions _h to ,art4 ,we set up a /&>d = judg+ ,art1 & agre$ t a good piece ( ,art is "o t makes u feel t unity & complet5ess = :i* we are /riv+4 ,two ?+s are necess>y1 a good ?\ght & good workman%ip4 ,we also said t details 9 ,art1 p>ticul>ly 9 pa9t+1 are bad because !y di/ract u1 & we don't see ! picture z a :ole4 ,i 0 v glad to h a /&>d by :i* to judge ,art40 ,i said to h] t ,i h>dly ?\ght %e c\ld already h t /&>d4 8,no10 %e said1 8b ,i am go+ to get x40 ,!n ,i read ,virg9ia's pap]3 8,art z x is connect$ ) our previ\s discussions3 8,:5 an arti/ dies he leaves beh9d him all ! beautiful ideas he has put on 8 canvas1 or 9 8 books4 ,to be a true arti/ "o mu/ possess an idea ( ! beautiful1 & also be sympa!tic ) all 8 fell[ be+s4 ,n only humans1 b fl[]s & bea/s also4 ,a p]son :o possesses ^! qualities is a g5ius4 ,b to be an arti/ "o mu/ also h tal5t4 ,ei!r he mu/ h a tal5t = writ+1 music or pa9t+1 or he _c express ! g5ius )9 himself4 8,?is sympa?y1 ?is love1 is some?+ we _c expla94 ,& s we call x ! s\l1 because x is a puzzle1 & we d n "k :at x is4 ,ev]ybody possesses "s ( x1 ev5 ! mo/ he>tless4 ,x may be ! love ( a plant or dumb animal1 b /ill x is love = a fell[ creature4 ,s all ( u possess g5ius1 ?\gh few ( u are arti/s40 ,next ,i read ,alfr$'s pap]3 8,on ,sunday1 ! #bb;d1 we discuss$ ! subject ( art4 ,we said t = a ?+ to be high art x mu/ be pleas+ to ! eye or e>1 & complete 9 itself2 t is1 ! arti/ or compos] mu/ s con/ruct 8 "w t x w fully express "s idea4 ,9 pa9t+ a picture an arti/ may *oose to convey "s gruesome idea1 & d s p]fectly1 b t w n be high art1 because x w be displeas+ to ! eye4 8,x may also be appli$ to books2 if ! au?or tells some?+ s well t x gives ! read] a p]fect picture ( ! ?\ght1 ! writ+ may be consid]$ a good "o40 ,i said ,i c\ld tell by ,alfr$'s pap] t he _h n grasp$ j :at 0 ! object ( art4 ,! *ildr5 repeat$ t x symboliz$ ! unity = :i* we long$4 ,i ask$1 did !y see :y we took up ?is subject ( art at all1 :at x _h to d ) religion8 ,m>ian _h said1 be=e ! o!rs came1 t x 0 ! expression ( our religion4 ,virg9ia n[ us$ almo/ ! same words1 & ,alfr$1 speak+ aft] h]1 said x 9 su* a way z to make me believe he und]/ood4 ,i repli$1 ?is 0 true2 art 0 ! s]vice ( religion1 ! expression ( t s5se ( on5ess ) ! _w :i* c speak only 9 creations1 because life is an endless creation4 ,beauty1 ,i said1 seem$ to me ! p]fect symbol ( tru?1 ( complet5ess & symmetry4 ,i quot$ ! l9es f ,keats3 8,beauty is tru?1 tru? beauty1 t is all ,ye "k on e>?1 & all ye ne$ to "k40 8,! subject ( beauty always puzzles me10 said ,ru?1 8because beautiful ?+s s (t5 are n good4 ,take ! ocean1 = in/ance4 ,x is s beautiful2 x gives u above all ?+s ! s5se ( imm5sity & h>mony4 ,& yet1 ?9k h[ cruel x is6 ,?9k ( ! %ipwrecks & ! suff]+60 8,x is n ! ocean's fault10 said ,virg9ia4 8,t is because we are adv5tur\s & g out 9 %ips40 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8& we are will+ to take ! *ance & pay ! price4 ,b surely y d n ?9k ( ! ocean z cruel1 z ei!r good or bad4 ,beauty is n 9 any?+1 b is 9 ! vision ( him :o beholds x4 ,x is a mom5t>y vision ( ! complet5ess ( life40 8,beauty is always a ?+ ( mom5ts4 ,don't y ?9k s80 ask$ ,m>ian4 8,x dep5ds ^u y4 ,at "o "t y may see a ?+ z beautiful1 & at ano!r "t n40 8,surely10 ,i said4 8,:y is x10 %e ask$1 8t "s p _c appreciate beauty 9 "o special =m1 ei!r 9 music1 or pa9t+1 or poetry80 ,i said3 8,our s5ses are *annels ?r\gh :i* we get ! feel+ ( beauty4 ,b no matt] :5ce ! feel+ comes1 x is t same joy4 ,"o man f9ds x 9 a picture1 & ano!r 9 a symphony1 & ano!r 9 ! woods4 ,d y "k ^? two l9es by ,william ,blake3 #8,:o kn[s b e bird t cleaves ! air ,is an imm5se _w ( delight clos$ by our s5ses five4' 8,!re may be o!r s5ses ?an ours :i* br+ ! same message4 ,hel5 ,kell] he>s & sees x ) h] f+]s 9 h] _w ( d>kness4 8,?r\gh\t ! c5turies10 ,i w5t on1 89 all beg9n+s & primitive times1 art 0 ! expression ( religion4 ,! fir/ rude draw+s 7 religi\s symbols2 drama & ! dance & music 7 religi\s2 & all ! olde/ lit]ature 9 ! _w1 ! ,v$as1 ! ,bible1 & ! old ,sc&9avian my?s 7 religi\s books3 ! ,greek drama1 &--c y ?9k ( o!rs80 ,!y br\ght =? _m in/ances2 ,m>ian m5tion$ ! ,engli% miracle plays1 & ,virg9ia spoke ( ,am]ican ,indian draw+s1 say+1 h[ev]1 t !y 7 m (t5 us$ = communication4 ,i %[$ h] h[ ! fir/ rude figures ( animals1 ! totems1 = in/ance1 7 also us$ z religi\s symbols4 ,i spoke1 too1 ( ! way 9 :i* art relat$ u ) great m9ds 9 ages pa/4 8,rusk9 m5tions t10 said ,ru? & ,m>ian4 8,b x is a "o-sid$ relation10 ,i said1 8= we _c speak to !m40 8,i wi% we c\ld10 answ]$ ,m>ian4 8,i s (t5 wi% ,i c\ld ask !m que/ions40 ,we said aga9 h[ h>d x 01 :5 ask$1 to expla9 to outsid]s ! purpose ( our club4 ,ru? said3 8,:5 ,i try to tell p1 !y answ]3 #8,oh1 yes1 ,i suppose y j talk nons5se1 & h a good "t4'0 ,m>ian said p wond]$ t %e 0 will+ to /ay 9-doors on ,sunday aft]noons4 ,virg9ia said3 8,i don't tell any "o ( x40 ,i sugge/$ to !m t if "o got a p]fect /&>d ( beauty 9 art1 x might be all "o w\ld ne$ z a moral /&>d to make "o's life beautiful 9 ! same way4 ,n[ we spoke ( ! novel4 ,i said ,i _h notic$ t la/ week :5 ,i told !m ( complet5ess 9 novels & plays1 !y seem$ n to "k j :at ,i meant4 ,flor5ce said %e knew4 8,x means10 %e said1 8t e ^w & e p]son & e incid5t mu/ c\nt4 ,x mu/ n be l life1 :]e di/ract+ & unimportant ?+s are always happ5+40 8,j s10 ,i answ]$4 ,%e _h le>n$ all t f bro!r ,ar?ur4 ,i w5t ov] x m explicitly1 cit+ in/ances1 & !n told !m t we 7 all ( u /ory-tell]s1 9 ! s5se t we tri$ to make e /ory complete4 8,9 tell+ any?+ t has happ5$10 ,i said1 8we naturally leave out any?+ t has no effect on ! /ory40 8,&10 add$ ,flor5ce1 8we unconsci\sly make up little details t help to fill out ! /ory40 8,n[10 said ,m>ian1 8,i ?9k ,i mu/ =give "s "o ,i "k1 :o is always exagg]at+40 8,i "k "s "o :o does x all ! "t10 said ,flor5ce4 8,i don't ?9k t makes x "r1 ?\gh10 ,ru? prote/$4 8,no10 ,i answ]$1 8n "r1 b n wrong1 ei!r4 ,:5 we realize ! arti/'s t5d5cy 9 u all to turn ev]y?+ into a /ory1 fir/1 we w n judge p h>%ly = do+ x1 &1 second1 we w be c>eful :5 we are try+ to tell ! tru?1 n to all[ ourselves to be *eat$ by ! arti/ 9 u40 8,i ?9k10 said ,virg9ia1 8p (t5 miss-tell an ev5t1 & get x all twi/$1 because !y really =get :at 0 said40 8,( c\rse10 answ]$ ,ru?1 8"o is n to blame = =gett+40 ,i said3 8,i ?9k t mo/ ( u1 unconsci\sly1 are /ory-tell]s 9 bo? s5ses4 ,_m ( u are con/antly tell+ ourselves /ories ab\t ourselves40 8,oh1 yes10 said ,ru?1 ,m>ian & ,flor5ce4 ,!y gave me a h9t ( ^? wond]ful romanc+s4 ,m>ian is always beautiful 9 h] /ories1 8z 9 a real novel10 %e said4 ,flor5ce said %e 0 always z homely 8z a mud f5ce10 b ,i c\ld see by h] expression t none ! less %e 0 always triumphant4 ,virg9ia 9 h] /ories 0 accompli%$ & a great arti/4 ,i =got to be "o ( !m = a mom5t4 ,i said3 8,until v lately ,i1 too1 us$ to tell myself /ories ab\t myself40 8,i /ill d x10 said ,ru?4 ,on ! subject ( unimportant details & *>act]s1 we _h a long talk4 ,we spoke ( ,dick5s' _m *>act]s & int]wov5 /ories1 & ,virg9ia ma9ta9$ t _m _h no?+ to d ) ! plot1 t !y 7 soon =gott51 & !re seem$ to be no special reason = !m4 ,m>ian saw1 h[ev]1 t at times six or sev5 plots might be wov5 into a s+le /ory4 ,in/ead ( fitt+ ! /&>d to ,dick5s1 !y fitt$ ,dick5s to ! /&>d1 & f\nd1 inde$1 t 8,! ,tale ( ,two ,cities10 :i* _h lea/ *>act]s & di/ract+ /ories1 0 mo/ int]e/+1 & well con/ruct$4 ,virg9ia spoke ( 8,lorna ,doone10 & we all agre$ ) h] t ! long descriptions ( h[ ?+s 7 done--fi%+1 = in/ance--:i* ! au?or gave because he 0 int]e/$ 9 ! c\ntry1 & :i* _h no?+ :atev] to d ) *>act]s & /ory1 made x monoton\s & almo/ spoil$ an o!rwise delightful book4 ,virg9ia said3 8,he ev5 tells :at patt]n ( suit he wore :5 he w5t fi%+40 ,!y f\nd ! same fault ) ,scott4 ,inde$1 none ( !m likes ,scott4 ,! criticisms 7 amus+4 ,8 blonde h]o9es 7 always weak1 8 d>k ones /rong1 b none ( !m int]e/+4 ,ivanhoe 0 a flabby nobody4 ,we spoke ( ,%akespe>e1 ( ! "p 8 cl[ns play$ 9 ! /ory4 ,m>ian said3 8,i see 9 :at s5se 8 plays are complete1 & ,i feel 9 him wond]ful und]/&+ ( m5 & great sympa?y4 ,b he doesn't uplift me40 8,d y want to be uplift$ into ! l(ty no?+80 ,i ask$4 8,is n humanity good en\gh = y80 ,we spoke1 too1 ( 8,little ,wom510 a mu* belov$ book4 ,we notic$ h[ ,l\isa ,alcott _h *ang$ ! /ory to make x a /ory4 ,i po9t$ out to !m :at x 0 t made melodrama2 namely1 ! intrusion ( ev5ts com+ f )\t1 n spr++ f ! reaction ( *>act]s ^u "o ano!r1 or ! intr9sic situation--su* z robb]s1 m>vell\s rescues1 or =tunes left by di/ant relatives4 ,we _h a long talk on ?is subject1 & ! *ildr5 told _m /ories4 ,b ,i d\bt :e!r all f9ally q und]/ood ! di/9ction1 :i* is (t5 h>d to make4 ,is ! com+ & go+ ( ! %ips 9 8,! ,m]*ant ( ,v5ice0 melodramatic8 ,i told !m ,i %\ld n call x s1 s9ce x 0 b\nd up ) ! :ole /ory1 almo/ l ! p]sons4 ,i said t ! melodramatic 0 m l life ?an ! purely dramatic1 because 9 life1 ) its ?\s& relations1 outside ev5ts made *anges con/antly4 ,b ! /ory 0 m true if x conta9$ )9 itself its own complete _w1 l a m9iature univ]se4 ,ea* "w ( art mu/ repres5t ! :ole4 8,& ?is is :y10 ,i said1 89 a really well-built play or novel1 a tra9$ p]son usually c =etell ! outcome4 ,suppose t we knew ev]y?+ 9 ! univ]se1 & all ! relations ( all ?+s to ea* o!r1 we %\ld be able to =etell e ev5t40 8,p]haps t is :y novels gr[ tiresome10 said ,ru?1 8= we get to "k j h[ !y w end40 ,i spoke ( ! au?or leav+ out 8 "o-sid$ moral v]dict ( 8 own /ory4 ,aft] repres5t+ life1 ! arti/ %\ld n judge2 fir/1 because 8 judgm5t is usually p>tial & incomplete1 & breaks ! unity2 second1 because he !reby %[s lack ( und]/&+ & respect = 8 read]1 :o might be tru/$ to draw 8 own conclusions4 ,haw?orne's /ories are (t5 spoil$ by 8 moral comm5t at ! end4 ,at ?is po9t ,i spoke ( miss+ ,h5ry4 ,i am c]ta9 he w\ld n h agre$ z readily z ! o!rs4 ,i said moral discussions 7 9 place 9 books on moral subjects1 n 9 arti/ic works4 ,i m5tion$ especially ! wor?1 ability & good influ5ce ( ! writ]s ( s-call$ 8muckrak+0 articles 9 ! magaz9es4 ,virg9ia wax$ en?usia/ic4 ,%e ask$ :y %\ld ,dick5s n write ( abuses 9 8 novels1 :5 by s do+ he actually br\ght ab\t social re=ms8 ,i said t = ! social re=m] !y 7 "r1 b n = ! arti/4 ,i w>n$ h] n to confuse ! two4 ,"h ,m>ian spoke ( ,milton1 & ( 8 giv+ up 8 arti/ic "w = ye>s to s]ve 8 c\ntry 9 politics4 ,"o c\ld n wi% he _h done o!rwise4 ,a man's life comes be=e art1 be=e any o!r expression4 ,i said _m ( ! 8muckrak]s0 7 m5 :o might h be5 arti/s1 b :o felt call$ to "w 9 ?is m direct way = ! beauty ( life1 because !y c\ld n tol]ate its ugl9ess4 ,b !y 7 n arti/s2 !y 7 some?+ diff]5t4 8,t may be s10 answ]$ ,virg9ia1 8b j ! same ,i admire ^? brave1 muckrak+ m5 m ?an arti/s40 8,!y are (t5 m admirable10 ,i said1 8b t does n make !m arti/s4 ,if y admire a soldi] m ?an a poet1 t does n make him a poet40 ,!y spoke ( ! re=m]s work+ = ! pres5t1 ! arti/ = all "t4 8,b10 said ,virg9ia1 8! result ( ! re=m]'s "w w la/ = all "t1 too40 ,i spoke aga9 ( 8=0 & 8aga9/0 9 books1 ( h[ we felt t writ] to be ! greate/ :o und]/ood & lov$ ! villa9s z well z ! h]oes1 & saw ! /r5g? & weakness ( bo? alike4 ,!y all agre$ to ?is1 & quot$ pl5te\s incid5ts2 among o!rs1 ! outca/ 9 8,bob1 ,son ( ,battle10 :i* !y _h all read & lov$4 8,h[ ,i cri$ ov] him60 said ,m>ian2 & ,ru? & ,virg9ia _h cri$1 too4 ,"h ,alfr$ came 9 ) 8 en?usiasm4 8,didn't y cry ov] x80 ask$ ,m>ian4 8,no10 he answ]$1 8b ,i almo/ did40 8,oh1 ( c\rse n10 %e said4 8,i =got y are a boy40 8,he w\ldn't d>e admit x1 ev5 if he did10 ,i said4 ,virg9ia said %e usually lov$ ! bad *>act]s m ?an ! good ones4 ,we saw h[ ! false simplicity ( villa9s & h]oes--z repres5t$ 9 ! poor novel--( all good & all bad1 & _! appropriate puni%m5t & rew>d1 0 untrue to life & human nature4 ,surely1 !y said1 all m5 _h 9 !m bo? good & bad4 ,scott1 !y insi/$1 made ?is mi/ake4 ,i spoke ( ! psy*ological & ! dramatic me?ods 9 novels4 ,i said to ,m>ian3 8,george ,eliot1 ( :om y spoke ! o!r day1 is an example ( ! psy*ological me?od40 ,i expla9$ ! two me?ods to !m1 ! "o go+ into m9ute details ( motive & ?\ght1 ! o!r sugge/+ to u ! motive & ?\ght ?r\gh ! action itself4 ,m>ian does n l ,george ,eliot4 ,%e greatly pref]s ,dick5s & ,?ack]ay4 ,i said ,i lik$ ,george ,eliot1 b /ill ,i pref]r$ ! dramatic me?od = sev]al reasons4 ,i ?\ght t ! passions1 moods & *anges ( ! s\l 7 too complicat$ ev] to be put d[n by any au?or s z to give ! impression ( tru?4 ,ru? agre$ ) me1 & said3 8,p]haps t is :y ,i l plays bett]40 ,to put d[n h[ a man w\ld act "u any p>ticul> circum/ances is mu* m conv9c+ ?an to tell h[ he w\ld feel2 = life always expresses itself 9 creative action4 ,i said3 8,a read] likes to be tru/$ & und]/ood by ! au?or4 ,he w\ld r imag9e ! m9ute details ( feel+ z "p ( ! :ole sw+ ( action1 to fill out ! picture = himself1 to be recogniz$ by ! au?or z a fell[ g5ius40 ,ru? said novels tir$ h]1 because mo/ noveli/s _h only ?ree or f\r *>act]s :i* !y us$ ov] & ov] aga94 ,i answ]$ h] t ?is 0 because !y wrote out ( _! own lives1 & _! *>act]s 7 usually b diff]5t sides ( !mselves4 ,i said _m great pa9t]s us$ only few models4 ,virg9ia said %e _h rem>k$ t _m pa9t]s always pa9t$ faces t resembl$ !mselves4 ,at ?is po9t1 j z ,i 0 beg9n+ to speak ( wit & humor1 ,virg9ia's bro!r came into ! room--9 ?is case1 = _m reasons1 an unavoidable int]ruption4 ,i _h s f> always kept ^! two h\rs clos$ aga9/ all visitors4 ,al?\gh he sat d[n 9 ! adjo9+ room1 & 0 w>n$ to li/5 & n to talk1 8 pres5ce made !m at once self-consci\s & sup]ficial4 ,i ask$ !m :e!r !y knew any di/9ction betwe5 wit & humor4 ,virg9ia answ]$3 8,i always ?9k ( a witty p]son z "o :o has good ?\ghts & expresses !m clev]ly1 & ( a humor\s p]son z a boor & booby1 l t "o 9 ! next room40 ,aft] ! laugh _h pass$1 ,i said3 8,virg9ia1 ,i c ?9k ( only "o expression t w fit y j n[1 & t is slang4 ,i ?9k y are talk+----0 8,?r\gh my hat80 8,yes1 exactly4 ,?is to me seems ! diff]5ce betwe5 wit & humor3 ,! witty man is he :o says or writes clev]1 funny ?+s1 j to %[ h[ clev] & ke5 he is4 ,conceits are witty1 because wit is ess5tially conceit$4 ,x may be v int]e/+ & ent]ta9+1 b x always makes y ?9k ( ! au?or r ?an ( 8 *>act]s4 ,x is always sup]ficial1 ! trick ( words1 & x doesn't keep well ?r\gh ! ages4 ,a pun1 = in/ance1 is always witty40 8,ough60 said ,virg9ia1 8n always60 8,b]n>d ,%aw10 ,i said1 8is a good example ( wit4 ,humor is ! und]/&+ ( ! petty foibles1 humors & lovable weaknesses ( m54 ,rememb] t ! ^w humor really means mood or /ate ( ! blood1 t x is a ^w v l ! ^w #8human4' ,humor is always human4 ,x is ! l>ge1 g5ial way ( look+ at life ( him :o sees h[ little m5 are1 & h[ great !y are at ! same "t4 ,x is a s5se ( absurd contradictions1 ( ! unity ( utt]ly unlike ?+s1 almo/ a p>ody ( complet5ess4 ,all humor1 all wit1 ev]y?+ funny is an incongru\s br++ toge!r ( ?+s t d n seem to belong toge!r40 8,i suppose10 ,m>ian said1 8t is :y we laugh :5 we see "s "o fall 9 ! /reet80 8,yes10 said ,virg9ia1 8= _! heads & ! sidewalk don't belong toge!r40 8,n[1 s]i\sly10 ask$ ,m>ian1 8:at makes me want to laugh :5 ,i see any "o fall1 especially a gr[n p]son8 ,& ,i mu/ laugh1 especially if x is a fat p]son1 no matt] h[ h>d ,i may try to be polite40 8,t's because y expect a gr[n p]son & a fat p]son to be dignifi$1 & to fall is v undignifi$4 ,imag9e 8 high hat fly+ "o way1 8 gold-head$ cane ano!r1 & 8 heels 9 ! air4 ,b if a little boy falls y don't laugh1 because little boys are meant to fall40 8,:5 my "m falls10 ,ru? said1 8,i c't keep f laugh+1 ?\gh ,i hate to see h] fall40 8,b ev]y?+ funny gr[s /ale v soon10 said ,m>ian4 8,t is10 ,i answ]$1 8because :5 we get us$ to a comb9ation x no long] seems incongru\s40 8,well10 ask$ ,m>ian1 8:5 y laugh at p because !y are boors & funny1 :y is t80 8,t is10 ,i said1 8because y feel y\rself to be s va/ly sup]ior40 8,is x80 %e ask$4 8,i suppose s40 8,& next "t y want to laugh at any "o10 ,i said mock-s]i\sly1 8j ?9k ( x fir/1 t y are consid]+ h[ sup]ior y are40 ,%e seem$ greatly impress$ & q ca/ d[n by ?is rem>k4 ,i said3 8,p]haps a good di/9ction to make betwe5 wit & humor is t wit laughs at p & humor laughs ) !m40 8,isn't satire wit80 ask$ ,m>ian4 ,i ?\ght a mom5t4 8,yes1 surely10 ,i answ]$4 ,z ,i spoke aga9 ( ! relation ( beauty to our subject1 ,ru? said3 8,:at has all ?is ab\t wit & humor to d ) our subject80 8,n mu*10 ,i said1 8except t x %[s h[ ! _s ( fun has a "p 9 h>mony2 & t x %[s humor to be und]/&+ & a human ?+4 ,b x is int]e/+ = itself1 isn't x80 8,yes10 %e answ]$1 8x is v int]e/+40 ,,n9? ,,meet+ ,ru? 0 unable to come4 ,n a s+le pap] ?is week6 ,:5 all b ,flor5ce & ,m>ian _h arriv$ )\t pap]s1 ,i began to be disappo9t$2 b :5 !y came 91 ,i said3 8,i am go+ to give up ! club40 ,y %\ld h se5 ,m>ian's s]i\s face4 8,:y80 %e exclaim$4 8,because y hav5't br\ght me any pap]40 ,!y all 7 too busy4 ,b ,flor5ce _h giv5 ,h5ry a good little talk on ! meet+ he _h miss$4 ,i ask$ !m :e!r !y _h enjoy$ ^! meet+s on art z mu* z ! fir/ meet+s4 ,!y all said yes1 q z mu*4 ,i spoke aga9 ( ! relation ( our idea to art4 ,x seem$ to !m all t art 0 ! expression ( ! religi\s ideal4 ,virg9ia said3 8,x relates u ) o!rs & gives u sympa?y40 ,h5ry said x 0 ! action ( religi\s feel+4 8,j z10 he add$1 8x is said "o kn[s a man by 8 actions40 8,y "k :at ,i mean10 said ,i2 8x might be well express$ 9 a s+le phrase t w\ld /ay 9 y\r m9ds4 ,art is ! symbol ( complet5ess4 ,x mu/ be 9 itself a t9y _w1 a m9iature univ]se4 ,d y rememb] ! delight y us$ to get :5 y 7 little1 f a t9y doll's h\se1 f a little ?+ t seem$ real1 t seem$ a small1 p]fect _w 9 itself8 ,?is joy y get f e "w ( art1 ! joy ( a complete _w40 8,z 9 ! novel10 said ,m>ian1 8:i* is n l real life1 ) its incomplet5ess & di/raction1 b has )9 itself all ! p & all ! ?+s necess>y to itself40 ,i spoke aga9 ( ! way 9 :i* ,i meant to discuss que/ions ( conduct accord+ to ! rules ( art4 ,i said3 8,life c be made beautiful & complete 9 ! same way1 & by le>n+ ^! l>ge laws we may avoid ! pett9ess ( moral discussion4 ,y1 be+ a self1 are ! symbol ( ! :ole ,self4 8,n[10 ,i cont9u$1 8we w speak ( poetry1 ( pa9t+1 ( all ! arts1 & y w see t ! laws ( all are ! same laws4 ,:at is ! diff]5ce betwe5 prose & poetry80 ,!y m5tion$ v>i\s diff]5ces1 su* z subject-matt]1 =m1 mann] ( treatm5t4 8,! *ief diff]5ce betwe5 prose & poetry10 ,i said1 8is t poetry is writt5 9 poetry40 ,t seem$ an evid5t diff]5ce4 8,metre1 rhyme1 musical measure ( ! words are qualities ( poetry alone40 8,b all poetry doesn't rhyme10 said ,virg9ia4 8,no10 ,i answ]$1 8b all poetry has metre4 ,tell me ano!r diff]5ce4 ,9 :at way does poetry affect y diff]5tly f prose80 8,i "k :at y mean10 said ,flor5ce4 8,y mean because x has metaphor & simile40 8,t1 too1 b some?+ else40 ,m>ian answ]$1 ) "s hesitation3 8,poetry is emotional4 ,x /irs y\r feel+s m ?an prose40 8,t is :at ,i meant10 ,i said2 8x resembles music because x /irs y z mu* by ! s\nd z by ! s5se4 ,& j because x is m unreal & di/ant1 x seems m real & close & complete 9 its grip4 ,a ?+ mu/ be f> (f to give u ! s5se ( complet5ess & beauty4 ,music is to me ! art ( arts1 because x expresses ev]y?+ & def9es no?+2 because x is l life itself1 r ?an a description ( life40 ,h5ry ass5t$ en?usia/ically4 ,i w5t on3 8,y spoke ( metaphor & simile4 ,we f9d x n only 9 all poetry1 b 9 all prose4 ,& :at is x b ! relation+ ( ?+s to "o ano!r1 ! lik5ess & ! bond betwe5 ?+s unlike8 ,& s ke5 is x1 s natural1 s close to u1 t we use x e day1 we are poets e mom5t 9 ?is respect1 = we h>dly ev] speak )\t us+ metaphor4 ,we say a %>p look1 a pi]c+ look1 & s use metaphor4 ,d y see80 ,m>ian said3 8,:5 we say 9 s*ool1 = in/ance1 t our tea*] look$ dagg]s1 we are us+ metaphor40 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8& ev5 slang is (t5 good metaphor40 ,alfr$ ask$3 8,if y call a p]son a lemon1 is t metaphorical80 8,surely10 ,i said2 8b ,i ?9k x w\ld h>dly d 9 poetry1 because x is too unsympa!tic40 8,h[ ab\t #bc skidoo80 ask$ ,virg9ia4 8,is t simile or metaphor80 8,t10 said ,i1 8is less metaphor ?an nons5se40 ,i said t 9 ! mod]n play1 :i* c\ld n use ! figurative language ( poetry1 ! metaphor & simile 7 replac$ by ! symbol4 ,i c\ld n g into ?is1 h[ev]1 z none ( !m1 except ,flor5ce1 _h read any mod]n plays4 ,s ,i spoke ( ! fairy /ory1 & h[ x (t5 /ood = some?+ :i* 0 n itself4 8,yes1 l ,br&t10 said ,flor5ce4 ,i did n dwell on ?is po9t1 b w5t on to ! subject ( tak+ sides 9 poetry4 ,i said t good poetry c\ld n possibly take sides2 t all didactic & p>ty poetry 0 poor4 8,i don't see t10 answ]$ ,h5ry4 8,no10 said ,flor5ce1 8he w\ldn't let me conv9ce him ( x ! o!r day40 ,h5ry w5t on3 8,take ,:itti]'s w>-"t poems2 !y 7 writt5 ) a purpose & tak+ sides40 ,i said3 8,i don't consid] ,:itti] a great poet4 ,b t's n ! po9t4 ,8 w>-"t poems are "s ( !m good1 p]haps1 b ! be/ are n p>tisan4 ,a man may s+ ( fre$om1 & /ill n be p>tisan1 z a man may s+ ( 8 native l&1 & ne$ n !re=e say mean ?+s ( 8 neighbor40 8,x seems to me10 said ,h5ry1 8t e "w ( art %\ld h a purpose40 8,surely10 ,i answ]$4 8,i nev] said x %\ld n h a purpose4 ,i said x %\ld n take sides4 ,e "w ( art has ! purpose ( be+ beautiful1 complete & true4 ,s ,i suppose y might say t art is aga9/ ugl9ess4 ,b ugl9ess is only a discord1 a false vision :i* art ov]comes ) its beauty40 8,i und]/&10 said ,h5ry4 8,y mean "o might be = some?+ )\t be+ aga9/ any?+40 8,yes10 ,i said1 8"o c be = complet5ess1 = unity1 = beauty1 :i* includes all ?+s4 ,an arti/ pictures life2 9 tell+ a /ory he may see t "s ?+s lead to ru9 & "s to happ9ess1 b he w n say he is = "s & aga9/ o!rs4 ,he w /& f> above !m & see !m all z !y are1 he w love !m all1 he w create a complete & individual _w40 ,virg9ia said3 8,i suppose y don't consid] ,burns a great poet40 8,yes1 ,i d10 ,i answ]$1 8except 9 8 didactic poems40 8,well10 %e said1 8#8,scots :a' ha' wi' ,wallace bl$' is p>tisan40 8,no10 ,i answ]$1 8x is m>tial1 b x gives ! foe 8 due4 #8,break pr\d ,edw>d's p[]4' ,t1 x seems to me1 is a tribute to ,edw>d40 ,at fir/ !y diss5t$1 b f9ally agre$ ) me t mo/ m>tial poems--all great ones--give ! enemy 8 due4 ,m>ian spoke1 9 ?is relation1 ( ,hom]4 ,we consid]$ high-falut9 /yle & books t are all climax1 )\t rhy?m & res]vations ( /r5g?1 unlike life1 :i* is all he>tbeats & pulsations4 ,flor5ce told ( a book :i* _h 8six climaxes on e page40 ,i spoke ( ! conv5tional phrases :i* m> /yle1 because we feel !m to be imitat$4 8,!y are n orig9al10 said ,h5ry4 8,no10 ,i answ]$2 8& orig9ality simply means tru? 9 ! writ]40 8,we feel10 said ,virg9ia1 8t he didn't take ! tr\ble to ?9k = himself40 ,!n %e spoke ( hav+ be5 made1 9 s*ool1 to comp>e ! l ?\ghts ( diff]5t au?ors1 & ask$ :e!r _! be+ alike made !m less orig9al4 8,no10 ,i answ]$1 8= two might see life 9 ! same way1 ea* = himself40 ,i w5t on to speak ( music4 8,to me10 ,i said1 8x seems ! mo/ p]fect ( arts1 because x is 9 itself h>mony1 ! v ^w we associate ) ?is idea ( complet5ess4 ,i don't "k mu* ( ! laws ( musical composition1 b ,i "k !y are ! laws ( rhy?m & h>mony1 ! laws ( all motion4 ,( c\rse1 x is figurative to speak ( ! music ( ! />s1 & yet 9 a s5se _! motion is music1 because x foll[s ! laws ( music4 ,music is ! lea/ def9ite ( all arts1 yet ! mo/ real & ne>4 ,x ar\ses our emotions z no?+ else c d40 ,mo/ ( !m felt z ,i1 t music 0 mo/ gripp+ 9 its effects4 ,m>ian1 h[ev]1 did n1 s9ce %e is n at all musical4 ,i spoke ( words & intellectual ideas 9 relation to music4 ,virg9ia said x made h] feel glad to he> music1 t %e _h to beat "t4 ,! o!rs all enjoy music mo/ :5 x has a lit]>y annotation1 ei!r 9 op]a1 or 9 conc]ts ) v]bal explanations4 ,at lea/ !y want to "k ! "n ( e melody4 ,9 ?is ,i said ,i agre$ ) !m1 because kn[+ ! "n imm$iately put me into ! mood ! compos] wi%$1 & sav$ me ^? fir/ five m9utes ( unc]ta9ty :i* e /range music awak5s4 ,h5ry said3 8,:5 ,i le>n a new piece on ! piano my tea*] & ,i always talk x ov]4 ,i h a piece call$ #8,spr+ 9 ! ,wood4' ,we say1 #8,n[ we are 9 ! bord] ( ! wood1 n[ we he> ! wat] rippl+ f> (f1 n[ !re are ! f]ns at ! edge4'0 ,we spoke ( pa9t+4 ,i expla9$ to !m ! po9t ( int]e/1 ! po9t ar\nd :i* all o!r l9es1 colors & int]e/s mu/ c5tre1 to :i* all are made subord9ate4 ,virg9ia said3 8,b x ne$ n be 9 ! c5tre ( ! picture40 8,no10 ,i answ]$1 8x _h bett] n1 s9ce t w\ld be monoton\s & /iff4 ,b :]ev] x is1 x makes itself a c5tre1 & makes ! picture a complete :ole40 ,virg9ia told ( ! plan ( complet+ ! c5tral figure 9 a sket*1 & leav+ ! re/ unf9i%$--z a sub/itute1 z ,i %[$ h]1 = ! effectiv5ess ( color4 ,all eyes %\ld be direct$ to ! c5tral figure4 ,i w5t into te*nical details ( l9es1 angles & motion1 ) help f ,virg9ia1 to %[ h[ color might express mood & action1 z well z did ! figures1 & s w\ld make ! :ole h>moni\s4 ,virg9ia spoke ( 8curly cl\ds0 9 a picture ( a burial1 made at ! art s*ool1 :]e ! l9es ( ! cl\ds 7 too gay1 & spoil$ ! solemn effect ( v]tical l9es4 ,f balance ( l9e we w5t on to balance ( light & %ade & color4 ,fir/ ,i expla9$ to !m--:at mo/ ( !m knew--! complem5t>y colors1 & ! cycle ( color2 t a picture conta9+ blue & orange1 or gre5 & r$1 has )9 itself all ! color !re is4 ,?9k ( ! hide\sness ( a blue & yell[ or r$ & blue picture6 8,x w\ld h to be ton$ d[n ) ! ?ird color10 said ,virg9ia4 ,i spoke ( ! lit]>y intrusion into pa9t+1 ( ! necessity ( a complete idea 9 ! picture itself2 ! diff]5ce betwe5 illu/ration & art4 ,a picture may h an illu/rative "n1 b if x be complete1 beautiful & satisfy+ )\t any "n1 x is n illu/ration4 ,:at is excell5t craftsman%ip might be bad art4 ,virg9ia & ,m>ian spoke ( "s pictures 9 ! ,metropolitan ,museum1 :i* !y _h be5 told to admire1 & c\ld n2 "s ( !m pictures by ,meissonni]1 9 :i* sat9s1 silks & velvets 7 done to p]fection4 ,h5ry spoke1 too1 ( c]ta9 pictures ( ,g]man mona/]ies :i* 7 pa9t$ = ! purpose ( pictur+ ! life1 ) precise detail1 & 7 n beautiful4 ,i told !m ( ! diff]5ce betwe5 art & craft4 ,art is a complete expression ( life by "o man4 ,craft is "p ( a big complet5ess1 ! "w ( "o man :i* has a purpose 9 relation to ! "w ( o!rs2 z a craftsman may make ! cornice 9 a palace :i* an arti/ design$4 ,! craftsman does a "p1 ! arti/ plans ! :ole4 ,m>ian said3 8,sometimes "s "o says to me1 #8t picture is p]fectly beautiful1' & ,i c't see x s4 ,!n aga9 ,i may ?9k a picture beautiful1 & ano!r p]son w n4 ,:y is t80 8,because10 ,i said1 8y\r ta/e1 y\r /&>d1 is diff]5t40 8,is x j ta/e80 %e ask$4 8,ta/e ) a reason10 ,i said1 8ev5 if y don't "k ! reason40 8,i ?9k10 said ,virg9ia1 8t :5 an arti/ expresses himself well1 e "o mu/ realize x40 8,n at all10 ,i said4 8,"o has to be tra9$ to und]/& pictures1 z "o has to be tra9$ to see40 ,i told !m ( ,turn]1 ^: pictures look beautiful to "s1 & to o!rs are m]e blot*es ( color4 8,a picture is n :at x repres5ts10 ,i said4 8,"o mu/ le>n to see x4 ,a pro( ( ?is is t babies1 q able to recognize objects1 d n recognize pictures4 ,& s "s p are babies all _! lives 9 relation to art4 8,n[10 ,i ask$1 8d any ( y ?9k photographs arti/ic80 ,i believe ,h5ry 0 go+ to say he did1 b 0 ov]:elm$ by ! o!rs4 ,alfr$ said3 8,9 a photograph all ! unimportant ?+s are !re ) ! important40 ,m>ian said t !re1 z 9 life1 !re 0 intrusion ( inh>moni\s details4 ,! out-(-focus & blurr$ photograph sometimes is arti/ic1 because ( ! lo/ details & ! effect ( di/ance2 b1 j !re=e1 x is untrue to fact4 ,virg9ia said photographic art 0 bad art4 ,%e said3 8,my tea*] gave a good example4 ,if a fire-eng9e 7 te>+ along ! /reet1 y w\ld be s int]e/$ 9 t y w\ld see no?+ else4 ,!re might be cr[ds ( p1 b y w\ld n notice !m4 ,b if a cam]a 7 to be snapp$1 !y w\ld all be 9 x & obscure ! eng9e4 ,y see only :at is important1 b ! cam]a sees ev]y?+40 8,t is a good illu/ration10 ,i said4 8,& s y see we are /ory-tell]s 9 vision z well z 9 n>rative4 ,we see ?+s complete & dramatic1 :e!r !y are s or n1 j z we mu/ tell a complete /ory4 ,d y realize h[ all ! arts are relat$1 h[ !y all h ! same laws8 ,& ^!1 ,i believe1 are ! laws ( life4 8,did y ev] ?9k ( x1 t ! arti/ sees only ) 8 eyes1 :]eas y see ) y\r eyes1 f+]s1 e>s1 ) all y\r s5ses8 ,y see a table squ>e1 high1 h>d1 smoo?1 b an arti/ sees x only 9 p]spective1 f a c]ta9 po9t ( view4 ,to get complet5ess y mu/ limit y\rself1 because y _c see ! univ]se4 ,! drop ( wat] is mo/ complete & p]fect :5 x is a limit$1 sph]ical drop1 n :5 x is scatt]$ abroad 9 mi/4 8,! arti/10 ,i said1 8is "o :o sees ?+s beautiful1 ev5 :5 to o!rs !y d n seem s2 & to see ?+s beautiful is to see tru?40 ,none ( ! *ildr5 disput$ ?is mu*-disput$ fact--= to y\? x is obvi\s--s ,i myself _h to answ] ! objections4 ,i said3 8,"o might say t 9 life _m ?+s are ugly1 & ^! ?+s are true1 !re=e to see ^! ?+s z beautiful is n to see !m truly4 ,b we believe t ! :ole univ]se1 altoge!r1 c\ld we "k x1 w\ld be h>moni\s & beautiful2 !re=e to see ?+s z beautiful is to see !m 9 relation to t tru?1 & z symbols ( t tru?40 ,m>ian said3 8,we mu/ believe t ! :ole univ]se is h>moni\s2 any?+ else is un?9kable4 ,we feel x 9 ourselves40 8,y mean1 because we h ! laws ( h>mony 9 our own nature80 8,yes4 ,! :ole mu/ be h>moni\s40 ,we spoke ( in/ances 9 :i* ugly ?+s c\ld be se5 z beautiful4 ,! empty lot across ! /reet1 ) its bo>ds1 rubbi% & %anties1 is ugly2 b at times1 "u c]ta9 conditions1 & by %utt+ out a "p ) my h&1 ,i see x z a beautiful wild l&scape4 ,m>ian said3 8,ne> u are "s poor1 ugly h\ses1 t ,i hate to see2 b sometimes ,i see little *ildr5 at ! w9d[s1 :o are s sweet & graceful !y make ! h\ses look beautiful40 8,!re are a great _m pictures10 said ,virg9ia1 8b ,i ?9k !re is n mu* art4 ,d y80 8,no10 ,i said4 8,to be a pa9t] does n make "o an arti/4 ,d y rememb] he>+ p make ! criticism t a picture 0 pretty1 b n beautiful8 ,prett9ess 9 art is a sad fault1 "o t p]haps y1 too1 h f\nd4 ,b d y "k j :at x is80 ,virg9ia said %e _h (t5 se5 pictures t 7 j pretty1 )\t "*4 ,i said3 8,:5 a pa9t] makes pictures to please ! ta/e ( p ^: ta/e he does n respect1 :5 a w\ld-be arti/ works to cat* applause or money f ! cr[d by satisfy+ _! bad ta/e1 & does n ev5 believe 9 ! love ( tru? & beauty :i* sleeps 9 !m all1 !n ! ?+ he pa9ts is usually pretty4 ,he w pa9t a little *ild ) a kitt5 9 h] lap1 because t is a pretty subject1 b x w be ! mo/ affect$ *ild & ! posie/ kitt560 8,x is sup]ficial10 !y said4 8,yes1 = he does n "k ! true "* ( ^? = :om he works1 nor c>e to "k 8 subject4 ,! smirk+ adv]tisem5ts "o sees are a good example ( prett9ess4 ,b _m arti/s1 work+ = money alone1 fall into ?is *eap1 easy habit ( pleas+ ! wor/ ta/e40 8,w\ldn't y call #8,! ,vic> ( ,wakefield' a pretty book80 ask$ ,h5ry4 8,no1 inde$10 ,i answ]$2 8x is f> too g5u9e & lifelike to be m]ely pretty40 ,h5ry insi/$ x 0 writt5 = money1 & 0 m]ely sweet & pleas+4 ,! o!rs disagre$ ) him s /r5u\sly1 ,i _h h>dly a *ance to say1 z be=e1 t "o might write = money ! ?+ ne$ful to be said4 ,virg9ia ask$ :e!r ,i did n ?9k ,jessie ,wilcox ,smi?'s draw+s m]ely pretty8 ,i said ,i ?\ght !m s n[ & !n1 b t sometimes h] deep love & und]/&+ ( *ildhood made !m %9e ) lovel9ess4 ,m>ian said3 8,"s p are m]ely pretty & un9t]e/+40 8,(t510 ,i answ]$1 8!y want j t4 ,!y look = sup]ficial admiration1 & %[ only _! sup]ficial prett9ess40 8,b1 ( c\rse1 t isn't art10 said ,m>ian4 8,sometimes x is10 answ]$ ,flor5ce4 ,i spoke ( sculpture z ! ,greek drama ( visual art1 a metaphor t appeal$ to ^? ( !m--,flor5ce1 ,m>ian1 ,h5ry--:o knew en\gh ( ,greek drama1 ) its masks & busk9s1 & its f>-(fness1 to und]/&4 ,! di/ance1 ! unlifelik5ess ( ! mat]ial1 is its *>m4 ,! color$ ,g]man m>bles lose arti/ic beauty 9 ga9+ lifelike color4 8,9 t case10 said ,alfr$1 8,i %\ld ?9k ! process ( color+ & ! newness ( ! mat]ial w\ld int]e/ "o s mu* z to draw "o's att5tion away f ! /atue40 8,i don't ?9k x is only t10 ,i answ]$2 8= surely wax works1 :i* are q common1 ) all _! lifelike color & s(tness1 d n give u ! ?rill ( reality & beauty t we get f a m>ble /atue40 8,i ?9k10 said ,h5ry1 8x is j ! coldness & h>dness ( m>ble1 *ang$ by ! arti/ into %apes ( life & w>m?1 t make x beautiful40 8,yes10 ,i said1 8exactly4 ,! sculptor expresses 8 idea 9 e curve ( ! human =m1 & makes human %apes say univ]sal ?+s4 ,!y express by attitude & l9e p[]1 beauty1 t5d]ness4 ,9 ! #8,m]cury1' ! l9es ( t headlong figure1 to half-%ut eyes1 repres5t ! curve & angle ( flight itself40 ,virg9ia n[ spoke ( ,mi*ael ,angelo1 & 8 misdraw+ ( figures1 :i* are none ! less beautiful & p[]ful4 ,i said he 0 s great a g5ius t 8 g5ius1 z (t5 happ5s1 ov]%ad[$ 8 %ortcom+s z a craftsman4 ,"h we came1 ,i "k n h[1 on ! subject ( drama4 ,i said t to me x c\ld nev] seem a p]fect =m ( art--t is1 ! act$ drama--because ! actors usually obtrud$ _! p]sonality1 & s broke 9 on ! unity ( expression--! creation ( "o m9d--necess>y to art4 ,b ! *ildr51 bett] at ! art ( look+ on ?an ,i1 & n s quick to note ! significance ( p]sonality1 said !y =got entirely ! actors !mselves1 & felt z ?\gh ! ?+ 7 a piece ( life4 ,virg9ia & ,flor5ce said !y felt z if !y 7 ! au?or1 z if by be+ spectators !y took "p1 & ,virg9ia said %e always did hate ! villa9s6 ,( ar*itecture we obs]v$ t x appeal$ directly to ! emotions1 l music2 t x made u feel1 we knew n :y1 glad or sad1 or calm or ov]aw$4 ,virg9ia spoke ( ! ,palais de ,ju/ice 9 ,brussels1 :i* made h] feel v t9y2 & ?is naturally br\ght u to speak ( ! feel+ ( rev]5ce & awe4 8,:5ev] we feel small10 ,i said1 8& see ano!r ?+ z va/1 t va/ness is 9 our m9ds1 x is our own imm5se o!r self :i* ov]awes u40 ,!y said !y did n "k :at ! feel+ 04 ,virg9ia said3 8,:5 ,i h x1 if ,i try to ?9k ( :at x is1 x is already gone4 ,b ! next "t ,i see ! same ?+1 p]haps "s beautiful picture1 t feel+ is !re aga940 ,virg9ia & ,flor5ce said !y nev] _h any rev]5ce = p>ticul> p1 because !y 7 old]1 = in/ance4 ,b1 ,i said1 at lea/ !y mu/ h rev]5ce = p1 z su*1 = ! self 9 all p4 ,!y grant$ t4 ,we spoke ( ! complet5ess ( t ar*itecture :i* %[$ outw>dly its inn] use1 & ! _s ( its l& & p2 ( di/9ctly ,am]ican problems1 ! skyscrap]1 ! selfi%ness ( ,new ,york build]s1 :o did n consid] ! beauty ( ! :ole city1 & s wr\ght ugl9ess4 ,! *ildr5 gave examples1 & did n agree ) me altoge!r1 ,h5ry say+ t a railroad /ation built l a ,roman temple made y feel l travell+ m ?an did ! gloomy ,gr& ,c5tral4 ,:5 he ask$ me h[ ab\t ! banks built l ,greek temples1 ,i said t might be m appropriate1 s9ce "s ( u did wor%ip money6 ,he spoke ( ! libr>y at ,wa%+ton z fitt+ exactly to its use2 its big1 com=table rooms made "o feel l /udy+ & read+ all ! day4 8,i wond] if any?+ c\ld make me feel l t60 said ,virg9ia4 ,:5 ! o!rs _h left1 ,i took a walk ) ,alfr$4 ,he said3 8,i didn't exactly und]/& :at y meant by my be+ big :5 ,i feel little40 8,i meant10 ,i said1 8t :5 y feel awe be=e ! imm5sity ( ! univ]se1 "u ! />s1 or by ! sea1 ! ?\ght ( imm5sity is 9 y\rself1 & x is really y\rself :o become imm5se4 ,y realize y\r :ole self4 ,& be=e t realization y\r daily life & ?\ghts & y\r own small self seem v t9y4 ,x is "o "p ( y\rself1 ! small "p1 /&+ 9 awe & wond] be=e t o!r imm5se self40 ,he und]/ood t4 ,i w5t on3 8,i only m5tion$ x to-day1 & did n expect y to und]/&4 ,i (t5 d ?is1 ei!r to give a sugge/ion = ! next week1 or else to see :at really int]e/s y40 8,i ?9k x is a good idea10 he said4 ,,t5? ,,meet+ ,virg9ia c\ld n come4 ,we did h six pres5t1 h[ev]1 z we _h a visitor1 ,leo1 a boy ( sixte54 ,ru? br\ght ) h] a box ( c&y1 giv5 h] by a sympa!tic aunt1 :o has an op9ion1 ,i surmise1 ( our club4 ,!y all assur$ me t c&y w\ld n di/urb _! ?\ghts4 ,m>ian said3 8,!re's no?+ ,i c't d1 & eat c&y at ! same "t40 ,i d1 myself1 ?9k x 0 an improvem5t4 ,we _h a lively & int]e/+ meet+1 & mu* sweetness4 ,m>ian wrote a pap] on our meet+ ( two weeks pa/1 foll[+ ! notes ,i _h made = ,flor5ce to use 9 h] talk ) ,h5ry4 ,x lack$ ,m>ian's usual orig9ality1 z x 0 built directly on my ?\ght4 ,%e ev5 us$ "o phrase ( m9e1 ^w = ^w1 namely3 8,life proves all ?+s by creative action40 8,:y did y use x80 ,i ask$4 8,because10 %e said1 8,i didn't und]/& :at x meant1 & ,i want$ to ask y40 8,i am glad10 ,i said1 8= x is a ?+ ( :i* ,i meant to speak to-day4 ,all action is creation & self-expression2 ev]y?+ is *ang+ & 9 action all ! "t1 because x is /riv+ to come into bett] relation ) all o!r ?+s4 ,all art & all life is self-expression & action at e mom5t4 ,we mu/ create if we w\ld be complete4 ,t is :y ,i love ! active & creative life40 8,yes10 said ,m>ian1 8,i und]/&4 ,y _h told u s be=e4 ,b ,i didn't "k x 0 :at y meant by t s5t5ce40 ,n[ ,i read ,m>ian's pap] = ?is week3 8,on ,decemb] #f? ! ,seek]s held a meet+1 9 :i* we cont9u$ our discussion on ,art4 ,we fir/ consid]$ ! subject ( ,art 9 ,poetry4 ,poetry diff]s f prose 9 two ess5tial respects1 namely1 x is f>!r (f1 & x expresses ! emotions1 & does s 9 a musical =m4 ,our /&>d = ,art applies 9 poetry1 z well z 9 o!r ?+s4 ,9 connection ) poetry we took up ! subject ( controv]sy 9 art1 & especially 9 poetry4 ,we decid$ t a controv]sial poem1 or novel1 is n good art because x is "o-sid$ & incomplete4 ,if a man writes on "o side ( a "q he _c be really 9 t sympa!tic frame ( m9d t is necess>y = ! production ( a good piece ( art4 ,we next took up art 9 music1 & decid$ t music is ! mo/ complete or arti/ic ( all arts1 because x is f>!/ (f1 & expresses mo/ completely our ideal4 ,we also consid]$ sculpture1 & not$ ! fact t ! sculpture is ! expression 9 human =m ( ! sculptor's ideas4 ,we also consid]$ pa9t+1 & aft] we _h aga9 appli$ our /&>d1 ,miss ,sampt] told u t e picture has a c5tral object or figure1 ! figure ( mo/ importance2 t all ! l9es ( ! picture are direct t[>d x2 & t 9 e good pa9t+ !re mu/ be contra/1 & all ! prim>y colors mu/ be 9 x4 ,x is complete 9 e way4 ,all ! colors1 light & %ade1 & ! idea ( ! pa9t] well work$ out1 complete x4 ,we consid]$1 besides1 ! subject ( ar*itecture1 & said t a build+ %\ld 9 "s measure express ! purpose = :i* x 0 to be us$40 ,ru? said %e und]/ood all ?is1 & c\ld ga!r some?+ ( our la/ meet+4 ,%e did n q see :at 0 meant by a ?+ 9 art be+ 8f> (f40 ,h5ry told h] x meant t ?\gh remov$ f reason1 & n cle>ly def9$ or lifelike1 x appeal$ to our sympa?ies & emotions1 & we und]/ood x all ! bett]4 ,!n ,i read ,h5ry's pap]3 8,9 poetry & music1 z 9 all ! o!r arts1 x is complet5ess1 complete h>mony1 :i* makes a ?+ beautiful4 ,( all ! arts ! mo/ beautiful is music4 ,h>mony is ev]y?+ 9 music1 & is ! pr9cipal 9 musical composition4 ,a piece ( music always closes ) ! fir/ note ( ! scale1 ?us complet+ ! *ord4 ,if x 7 o!rwise we w\ld say !re 0 some?+ lack+4 ,! phrase itself %[s u t :at we want is complet5ess1 ?\gh few p /op to ?9k ( its full mean+ :5 !y use x4 8,we h said t ! f>!r away we are f some?+1 ! m beautiful x seems4 ,?is is true ( music1 :i*1 besides be+ ! mo/ beautiful ( arts1 is ! f>!/ away1 = we _c say any?+ def9ite ) x1 b mu/ leave s mu* to ! sympa?y ( ! li/5]s4 ,i l to ?9k ( ?is z a symbol ( ! beautiful complet5ess we hope to realize "s f>-di/ant day1 & t !n !re w be some?+ /ill m beautiful1 t we %all "k 9 times /ill f>!r (f40 ,i ?\ght ?is an excell5t pap]1 & ,i told ,h5ry s4 ,i said ,i 0 glad he _h writt5 m ( musical composition ?an ,i _h be5 able to tell him4 ,we spoke ( "s ( our pa/ meet+s4 ,flor5ce said3 8,i c\ldn't make ,h5ry see ! diff]5ce betwe5 wit & humor40 8,i see x n[10 he answ]$4 8,we discuss$ x 9 s*ool40 8,s did we10 said ,m>ian4 8,isn't x que]80 ,!y _h be5 tak+ up drama1 too1 & s _! club & s*ool "w h>moniz$4 ,i said3 8,y h he>d p speak ( ! art ( life4 ,to me x seems t to make an art ( life1 to live x z if x 7 our creation1 our "w ( art1 is ! be/ way1 ! mo/ complete & beautiful way4 ,y rememb]1 ,i spoke to y ( ! ?ree ways ( look+ at life1 ( writ+ books1 = in/ance3 ,! sci5tific way1 ! philosophic way1 ! arti/ic way4 ,"o c live life 9 ^! ?ree ways1 too2 b to me ! arti/ic way seems be/40 8,don't y ?9k10 ask$ ,m>ian1 8t if we liv$ z an art1 we %\ld be too apt to excuse ourselves80 8,h[ d y mean1 ,m>ian80 8,because10 %e w5t on1 8we %\ld admit ! %ad[s 9 life z well z ! light40 8,! %ad[s10 ,i answ]$1 8are n ! wrong1 ! bad4 ,h[ c y ?9k s8 ,are %ad[s 9 a picture ! mi/akes 9 x8 ,%ad[s make ! rhy?m & ! contra/2 & 9 life w\ld be repose & sleep4 ,t necess>y pulsation ( activity & re/ alone c make life :ole & p]fect40 8,i see10 said ,m>ian1 8t is true40 8,z = blam+ ourselves = ?+s pa/1 ,i ?9k x is silly to d s40 8,:at10 !y ask$1 8is ! sci5tific way ( life80 8,x is10 ,i answ]$1 8liv+ accord+ to small def9ite tru?s1 kn[+ c]ta9 sep>ate ?+s to be good or bad = u1 & liv+ accord+ to t k1 )\t any g5]al aim ( life4 ,x is to ba! regul>ly1 to tell ! tru? c>efully1 to be hone/1 to look out = y\r neighbor1 always because ea* "o ( ^! ?+s is exp$i5t 9 itself4 ,! philosophic way is to see ! f9al1 complete good1 & to want t once1 to lose y\rself & ! beauty ( y\r own life 9 ! desp]ate ef=t to make ! :ole _w p]fect n[4 ,suppose1 = in/ance1 t on ,*ri/mas a />v+ family came to ! door ( a middle-class man = food4 ,if he 7 a sci5ti/ 9 8 life he w\ld s5d ! poor family at once to ! public food kit*51 ) a ticket ( recomm5dation1 because he did n believe 9 indiscrim9ate *>ity & paup]ism4 ,if he 7 a philosoph] he w\ld be horrifi$ at ! idea ( any man lack+ a d9n]1 & )\t fur!r ?\ght w\ld give 8 :ole d9n] to ! poor1 & g )\t1 & let 8 *ildr5 g )\t4 ,t is j :at ,bronson ,alcott did--! typical philosoph] 9 life--:o neglect$ 8 own family = ! good ( ! univ]se40 8,i h (t5 kn[n ( p10 said ,h5ry1 8:o w5t out to d *>ity & neglect$ _! families40 8,yes10 ,i said1 8b t is sometimes = /ill worse reasons4 ,n[ :at w\ld ! arti/ 9 life d8 ,he w\ld be full ( ! delight ( ,*ri/mas feel+2 & he w\ld ei!r %>e 8 d9n] ) ! o!r man--accord+ to circum/ances--or ask him 9 to 8 table1 if ! poor *ildr5 7 n too dirty4 ,he w\ld look out = himself & = ! o!r man1 & d x gracefully1 beautifully4 ,he kn[s t fir/ ( all he mu/ make 8 own life sane & beautiful1 b he wants to include z _m o!r lives z he c 9 t life ( 81 & to make all 8 relations ) m5 beautiful40 8,:at y call ! philosophic way10 said ,ru?1 8is :at ,i _h always call$ ! arti/ic way40 8,t is10 ,i said1 8because y h all ( y _h a ridicul\s1 false idea ( :at ! arti/ is4 ,! sci5tific life is ! life accord+ to p>ticul> tru?s1 )\t an aim4 ,! philosophic life is ! life dream+ ( supreme good1 & neglect+ ! p>ticul>1 individual beauty ( life40 8,b doesn't ! philosophic way help t[>d t good80 ask$ ,h5ry4 8,yes10 ,i said1 8?\gh (t5 x tries only impracticable s*emes4 ,! arti/ic way comb9es & transc5ds ! two4 ,= ! arti/ mu/ h k ( facts1 mu/ "k sci5ce1 & mu/ love supreme good1 z well4 ,facts accord+ to ! supreme good1 life made beautiful to be l complet5ess1 t is ! arti/ic life4 ,x includes bo? ! sci5tific & ! philosophic40 8,x is z x 7 ! middle way80 ask$ ,ru?4 8,yes10 ,i said1 8because beauty includes all extremes40 ,h5ry rem>k$3 8,x may be ! be/ way1 b ,i w\ldn't gu>antee to live accord+ to x40 ,i smil$4 8,y mean10 ,i said1 8t y didn't l ! idea ( ask+ ! poor man 9 to d9n]80 ,he ass5t$4 8,b y misund]/ood me4 ,t 0 only a picture1 a /ory1 n a law4 ,if we make l>ge laws = life--su* laws z ^? ( art--we %all avoid petty moraliz+1 :i* ,i1 = "o1 dete/4 ,we %all see t e circum/ance alt]s ! case4 8,x's j ?is petty moraliz+ t is unnecess>y1 :5 "o has big laws & /&>ds :i* he c use 9 life1 ea* = himself40 ,we did come v ne> hav+ a discussion on tru?-tell+1 b ,i /opp$ x at once4 ,i 0 glad to discov]1 h[ev]1 t ,ru? is n a /ickl] = lit]al tru? "u all circum/ances4 8,i don't l little laws laid d[n10 ,i said1 8because !y are nev] true & necess>y 9 all cases4 ,!y make me feel rebelli\s40 8,yes10 said ,m>ian1 8!y make "o feel contr>y1 & want to d j ! opposite40 ,i spoke ( ! und5iable fact t all great action1 all hi/ory sprang f imag9ative ?\ght1 t a de$ _h to be imag9$ be=e x c\ld be done1 t all hi/ory 0 inspir$ by ! b>ds & prophets4 ,i spoke ( ev5 su* sci5tific !ories z evolution spr++ f imag9ative ?\ght4 ,!y all seem$ to h realiz$ ?is be=e1 & none diss5t$4 ,i read to !m ,o',%awnessy's ,ode1 8,we are ! ,music-mak]s40 ,flor5ce said3 8,we spoke ( ! ?9k]'s influ5ce lately1 at home4 ,b ,i always ?\ght ( ^? great m51 n z poets1 b z philosoph]s40 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8!y (t5 74 ,b !y 7 poets1 too4 ,! greate/ arti/--z ,i %[$ y--is a sci5ti/ & philosoph] z well4 ,goe! to me seems ! be/ example ( su* a complete man4 ,8 life 0 s _m-sid$1 & yet s arti/ic1 s def9ite 9 its aim2 x might /& z an example ( ! arti/ic life40 ,n[1 :at ! *ildr5 seem$ to "k ( ,goe! 0 t he _h a great _m love affairs1 & did n behave well 9 any ( !m4 ,m>ian & ,h5ry _h a cle>] idea1 & knew ?is 0 n ! :ole or ! *ief "p ( 8 life1 nor q s faulty z repres5t$4 ,h5ry said3 8,he c\ld appreciate ! good po9ts 9 a woman )\t always fall+ 9 love ) h]40 ,:5 ,ru? said %e didn't "k any?+ ( ,goe! b 8 lov]'s weakness1 ,m>ian turn$ on h] )3 8,n[1 isn't x a %ame to "k t ( him1 & no?+ else60 ,i told !m aga9 t z e "w ( art 0 a symbol ( complet5ess1 s e self1 be+ a self1 symboliz$ ! complete self ( und]/&+ & unity2 e man 0 a symbol ( complet5ess1 ( ! ,div9e ,self4 ,be=e we w5t on to enum]ate = ourselves ! laws ( art1 n[ t we all agre$ !y w\ld be "o ) ! laws ( life1 ,i wi%$ to read al\d "s slips f a ,rusk9 cal5d>1 :i* ,ru? _h br\ght me two weeks be=e4 ,! mo/ fruitful ( conv]sation 7 ! foll[+3 8,all are to be m5 ( g5ius 9 _! degree--rivulets or riv]s1 x does n matt]1 s t ! s\ls be cle> & pure40 ,?is1 !y said1 0 exactly our idea ( g5ius 9 all4 8,good "w is nev] done = hatr$1 any m ?an = hire--b = love only40 ,surely1 !n1 n = controv]sy1 we said4 8,nei!r a great fact1 nor a great man1 nor a great poem1 nor a great picture1 nor any o!r great ?+1 c be fa?om$ to ! bottom 9 a mom5t ( "t40 8,e great man is always be+ help$ by ev]ybody1 = 8 gift is to get good out ( all ?+s & all p]sons40 ,?is1 ,i rem9d$ !m1 0 :at we _h said :5 we spoke ( ! good & bad1 t we mu/ use all ?+s = good4 8,! ennobl+ diff]5ce betwe5 "o man & ano!r--betwe5 "o animal & ano!r--is precisely 9 ?is1 t "o feels m ?an ano!r40 8,doesn't x seem10 said ,flor5ce1 8z if ,rusk9 _h writt5 ^? pap]s especially = u80 8,t la/ "o10 ,i said1 8expresses exactly our idea2 "h #8feel+' means ! same z #8sympa?y1' or #8feel+ )4' ,s y f9d1 all ?r\gh ! old books1 ! /riv+ = ?is same tru?1 always vaguely express$1 nev] fully und]/ood1 z an ideal1 z a religion ( life40 ,ru? ask$3 8,don't y ?9k all great religions h always believ$ 9 t f9al unity80 8,n q 9 ?is way10 ,i answ]$4 8,!y h vaguely /riv5 = x & impli$ x1 b nev] realiz$ x z ! "o mean+ 9 life1 ! mov+ =ce ( ! univ]se40 ,i gave ea* ( !m a p5cil & a piece ( pap]1 & said we w\ld f9d out & write d[n :at 7 ! *ief laws ( all arts1 & !n foll[ t writt5 pap] ?r\gh\t our meet+s4 ,i said3 8,x looks l a p>ty1 ) ! c&y & ! pap] & p5cils40 8,yes10 said ,flor5ce2 8& n[ we are go+ to play a guess+ game60 ,! fir/ law ^u :i* we decid$1 aft] "s conv]sation1 03 #a4 ,art is ! symbol ( complet5ess1 9 a def9ite %ape4 ,on ?is la/ "p1 89 a def9ite %ape10 ,i especially insi/$1 %[+ !m h[ ! def9ite1 ! p>ticul>1 ! f9ite--! drop z oppos$ to ! mi/--symboliz$ complet5ess4 ,i said = !m ,goe!'s poem1 8,ueb] all5 ,gipfeln10 to %[ !m h[ s %ort1 cle>cut & simple a ?+ gave u ! s5se ( imm5sity4 ,h5ry said he _h ?\ght at "o "t t if "o only knew ! tru?1 x 0 n necess>y to be a good orator2 "o _h simply to /ate ! tru?4 ,b n[ he believ$ ! =m an ess5tial "p ( ! ?\ght4 ,m>ian said some?+ ( ! arti/ic life z mean+ "o mu/ h a s+le aim4 ,i answ]$ h] x might be s1 b ! s+le aim w\ld be imm5se & inclusive4 ,n[ we w5t on to ! second law1 :i* we =mulat$ ?us3 #b4 ,art is self-expression & self-fulfilm5t4 ,self-expression means action1 creation4 8,?9k+1 writ+1 ! "w ( ! arti/ is action10 ,i said4 ,!y und]/ood4 ,i quot$3 8,!re is only "o gift wor? giv+1 & t is "o's self40 8,to give "o's self10 ,i said1 8t is action1 t is life1 creation & fulfilm5t40 8,h[ s fulfilm5t80 ask$ ,m>ian4 8,because x is always fulfilm5t to d ! ?+ we love to d4 ,n[ :at comes next80 ,h5ry said3 8,to leave out ! di/ract+2 to leave out detail40 8,n necess>ily detail10 ,i answ]$2 8c]ta9 def9ite details are ess5tial40 ,!y said to leave out ! irrelevant1 ! inh>moni\s1 ! unnecess>y4 ,i said3 #c4 ,to leave out ! unimportant4 8,c y see10 ,i ask$1 8h[ t w apply to life80 #d4 ,mu/ h v>iety & _m-sid$ness4 ,t is1 contra/1 rhy?m1 ! all-r\ndness :i* makes ! :ole4 ,we _h j begun to speak ( ! next law :5 ,i 0 call$ f ! room4 ,z ,i return$1 ,h5ry said to me3 8,well1 !n1 let u write d[n3 #8mu/ n be = or aga9/4'0 ,s !y _h =mulat$ x :ile ,i 0 away4 ,i answ]$3 8,r let u use ! ^w #8p>tisan1' :i* means "p1 n :ole40 #e4 ,mu/ n be p>tisan1 & mu/ be sympa!tic4 ,n[1 ,i said1 art1 #f4 ,mu/ give ! impression ( tru?4 ,i did n l+] on ?is po9t1 & 0 glad ! *ildr5 accept$ x )\t "q1 = ,i want$ m "t to expla9 x4 ,i w5t on to ! la/ law1 :i* 0 ! only "o ,i _h "s tr\ble 9 mak+ cle>4 ,i ask$ :y 0 ! photograph in>ti/ic8 ,!y said because ( inh>moni\s details4 ,i ask$1 :y is ! /atue m beautiful ?an wax works8 ,h5ry spoke aga9 ( ! 8di/ance0 ( mat]ial1 :i* j !reby appeal$ to ! sympa?ies4 ,i want$ to speak ( ! arti/'s alo(ness1 h[ he 0 creator ( 8 "w1 )9 x1 & yet ar\nd x & above x4 ,!y did n und]/&4 ,!y said1 if he 7 above x1 he w\ld be unsympa!tic4 ,!y did n und]/& ! creator's attitude t[>d himself1 ! creat$2 ! dramatic attitude 9 life1 9 :i* we are bo? actor & spectator4 ,m>ian said %e ?\ght %e und]/ood x4 8,hav5't y ev] laugh$ at y\rself80 %e ask$ ! o!rs4 8,i h sworn at myself10 said ,leo4 ,i meant to pass by ! subject1 & leave out ! la/ law1 r ?an ar\se a self-consci\sness1 :i* 0 ! opposite ( :at ,i hop$ to awak54 ,b un9t5tionally ! conv]sation l$ to a bett] und]/&+4 ,i spoke aga9 ( rev]5ce1 z ,i _h done to ,alfr$1 ( ! small self aw$ 9 supreme mom5ts1 be=e ! imm5sity ( its :ole self4 8,d y mean10 ask$ ,leo1 8t x makes u feel h[ small we are80 ,i tri$ to make x cle>4 ,i spoke ( ! feel+ ( no?+ness t ov]comes u1 :5 we /& "u ! />s at night1 & realize !m z worlds & suns1 & our planet z a dot ( light 9 imm5sity4 ,!y _h all felt s1 except ,h5ry4 ,he said3 8,x does n make me feel small4 ,i feel t ,i am a "p ( x all1 & "o ) ! univ]se40 8,y\rs is ! true feel+10 ,i answ]$1 8= y are1 inde$1 a "p ( x1 & ! realization ( x is )9 y\rself4 ,a kitt5 9 y\r place w\ld n feel x40 8,i "k10 said ,m>ian1 8t _m p d n feel x4 ,= ,i h sometimes walk$ ) "s "o out 9 ! night1 or by ! sea1 & c\ld n speak4 ,& sudd5ly !y said "s trivial ?+1 :i* %[$ !y did n feel z ,i did40 ,alfr$ said he felt ov]aw$ by ! sea1 because x 0 s /rong & big4 8,y mean10 ,i ask$1 8t x makes y feel helpless be=e its might80 8,yes40 8,x has be5 said10 ,h5ry w5t on1 8t "o _c be an a/ronom] & n wor%ip1 ,i believe x is true40 8,& n[10 ,i said1 8we are com+ to ! sev5? law aft] all4 ,= by alo(ness ,i mean t ! arti/1 dur+ 8 act ( creation1 feels 8 own imm5se self1 feels ! :ole univ]se1 & sees himself & all o!r ?+s z a "p 9 relation to x40 8,i h felt t way sometimes10 said ,flor5ce1 8j = a mom5t40 8,x is a mom5t>y realization10 ,i answ]$4 8,don't y ?9k10 ask$ ,ru?1 8t x is a sup]ior feel+1 ?\gh2 a cold1 p]fect feel+80 8,no10 ,i answ]$2 8?\gh x lifts u above petty conc]n = ourselves1 x does n lift u out ( sympa?y & action40 ,h5ry said3 8,:5 ,i g to ,riv]side & see all ! lights1 & ?9k ( ! millions ( p1 ,i feel !m all40 ,x rem9d$ me ( ! day ,m>ian _h said %e felt s :5 %e ?\ght ( all ! w9d[s & rooms 9 all ! ap>tm5t h\ses4 8,suppose10 ,i ask$1 8t y _h fail$ 9 a v important exam9ation1 ,h5ry1 w\ld y feel bad80 8,yes10 he said1 8if x 7 a v1 v important "o40 8,!n1 if y w5t to ,riv]side ,drive & =got y\rself 9 t imm5se feel+1 :5 y return$ home y w\ld n only be ov] y\r sore1 bitt] disappo9tm5t1 b y w\ld be full ( en]gy to beg9 "w aga940 8,yes10 he answ]$1 8,i w\ld40 8,s1 y see1 x is a creative1 sympa!tic1 liv+ alo(ness1 n cold & f> (f40 ,we put d[n = ! sev5? law3 #g4 ,alo(ness4 ,kn[+ :at we meant !reby4 ,ru? said %e _h notic$ t ! arti/ic life 0 a selfi% ideal4 8,yes10 ,i said1 8selfi% 9 ! be/ s5se40 8,x is self-developm5t1 y mean10 said ,alfr$4 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8& t selfi%ness includes ! :ole _w40 8,:y use ! ^w #8selfi%ness1' !n10 ask$ ,m>ian1 8t has be5 us$ 9 ano!r s5se80 ,we sp5t ! re/ ( ! "t tell+ ,leo our idea ( ,god & progress4 ,h5ry1 ,ru?1 ,flor5ce & ,m>ian did x2 ,flor5ce told him ( complete human sympa?y1 ,m>ian ( progress t[>d x z ! good1 ,h5ry expla9$ ! poem1 8,ab\ b5 ,adhem10 & ,ru?--:5 ,leo object$ t kn[+ m5 0 n kn[+ ,god--quot$ a passage f ! ,bible to %[ x 04 8,i always ?9k ( ,god z a supreme p[]10 said ,leo4 ,i told him some?+ ( our idea4 ,:at ,i c>$ = 0 to he> ! o!rs talk4 ,all1 except ,h5ry1 seem$ satisfi$ ) a m]ely human conception ( self--t is1 ,flor5ce set ! key1 & all b ,h5ry kept ! tune4 ,he spoke ( ! 8some?+ outside40 ,i rem>k$ t1 z ,i _h =ese51 we no long] us$ ! ^w ,god4 8,i use x to myself10 said ,ru?4 ,h5ry said3 8,i use x :5 ,i speak to o!r p2 b n "h1 because we "k :at we mean1 )\t say+ x40 ,m>ian said3 8,we h made a vocabul>y ( our own4 ,ought we to80 8,yes10 ,i said4 8,p]haps we c impose x on o!rs80 8,i don't ?9k t w\ld be fair or "r10 %e answ]$4 8,:y n8 ,t is j :at e great ?9k] has done4 ,he has impos$ a new vocabul>y ^u ! _w4 ,unless our words are good & great & true1 !y w n la/40 ,,elev5? ,,meet+ ,i read ,virg9ia's pap] ( two weeks ago3 ,,discussion ,,on ,,art 8,any?+ to be really beautiful mu/ be complete4 ,! reason = ?is is t x gives u t idea ( complet5ess :i* ! univ]se possesses4 ,a picture 9 :i* e detail is pa9t$ may be pretty1 b x is n beautiful4 ,:5 y look at a p]son y look at 8 face & ! expression ( x4 ,9 any?+ on :i* y set y\r eyes1 y see only ! "p t int]e/s y4 ,!re=e a good picture or a book %\ld only h t "p br\ght =?1 & ! re/ & unimportant p>ts %\ld be kept 9 ! backgr\nd4 ,9 fact1 !y %\ld only be !re to make ! important ?+ m int]e/+2 to make x /& out40 ,!n ,i read ,h5ry's pap]3 8,at our la/ meet+ we review$ all t we _h said ab\t art4 ,we spoke ( ! ?ree k9ds ( life1 ! arti/ic1 philosophic & sci5tific1 & agre$ t ! arti/ic life is ! "o we c>e =4 ,we made a li/ ( ^? ?+s :i* are necess>y 9 art1 s t we c ref] to !m1 & apply !m 9 judg+ life4 8,good art #a4 is a symbol ( complet5ess 9 a def9ite =m4 #b4 is self-expression & self-fulfilm5t4 #c4 mu/ leave out unimportant detail4 #d4 mu/ h v>iety & _m-sid$ness4 #e4 mu/ n be p>tisan1 & mu/ be sympa!tic4 #f4 gives ! impression ( tru?4 #g4 ----0 ,! la/ law1 ! idea ( alo(ness1 ( be+ above z well z )9 life1 ( be+ actor & spectator at once1 !y d n und]/&1 & ,i made no fur!r ef=t to expla94 ,h5ry said he left x out--= t reason--:5 writ+ 8 pap]4 ,i said ,h5ry _h m5tion$ we did pref] & *oose ! arti/ic life4 ,b :y8 ,i suspect$1 f some?+ !y said1 t !y did n grasp ! reasons4 ,virg9ia said %e didn't c>e :at ! reasons 71 %e knew %e lik$ x be/4 ,! reasons1 at any rate1 _h n impress$ !m4 ,s ,i repeat$ :at ,i _h said1 ( ! arti/ic life includ+ ! o!r two1 ( h[ ! arti/ mu/ "k sci5ce & love goodness be=e he c create beauty4 8,!n10 said ,flor5ce1 8! great arti/s 7 philosoph]s80 8,always10 ,i answ]$4 8,take ! anci5t religi\s writ+s1 su* z ! ,v$as & ! ,bible4 ,!y 7 always poems1 ! "w ( arti/s :o 7 also philosoph]s & sci5ti/s40 8,sci5ti/s80 ask$ ,m>ian incr$ul\sly4 8,surely10 ,i answ]$1 8m5 su* z ,moses1 :o gave laws on sanitation & daily life1 7 ! sci5ti/s ( _! "t40 8,an arti/ mu/ und]/& sci5ce10 said ,virg9ia1 8natural sci5ce1 if he wants to pa9t4 ,& he mu/ "k physiology1 too4 ,i am beg9n+ to realize t at s*ool40 ,"s "o m5tion$ ,frankl94 8,0 he m sci5ti/1 or philosoph]1 or arti/ 9 8 life80 8,i ?9k he 0 a philosoph]10 said ,virg9ia4 8,no10 ,m>ian answ]$1 8he j ga!r$ a lot ( bromidic prov]bs1 t 7 z old z ! _w1 & said !m ov] 9 an impressive way40 8,b !y 7 philosophical10 ,virg9ia prote/$4 8,no10 said ,m>ian1 8,i don't ?9k s4 ,!y 7 sci5tific1 = !y dealt ) little disjo9t$ p>ts ( life40 ,i told !m ,i want$ to p>aphrase a c]ta9 v]se 9 ! ,bible1 ! v]se3 8,fai?1 ,hope & ,*>ity1 b ! greate/ ( ^! is ,*>ity40 8,h[80 ask$ ,ru?1 mu* int]e/$4 8,i w\ld say10 ,i w5t on1 8#8,tru?1 ,goodness & ,beauty1 b ! greate/ ( ^! is ,beauty'--because x includes ! o!r two40 ,n[ ,i *ang$ ! fir/ law into t]ms ( life3 8,life is a symbol ( ! complete ,self1 9 a def9ite %ape40 ,life mu/ express t ,self 9 def9ite & individual l9es1 t is1 9 beauty4 ,i spoke aga9 ( small & great g5ius1 ( art express+ a less] or a great] complet5ess1 ( 8,j5ny ,kiss$ ,me0 & 8,fau/10 ,flor5ce's examples4 8,) p y mu/ h notic$ ! same ?+4 ,"s p ^: lives seem v limit$1 :o und]/& & "k little1 /ill h su* h>moni\s natures t 9 _! sph]es !y seem complete4 ,b ) /ill o!r p y feel t _! lives are mu* l>g]1 t !y grasp m ( life & possess m1 because !y und]/& m4 ,! m we und]/&1 sympa?ize & love1 ! l>g] is our life40 ,m>ian look$ puzzl$4 8,:at is x1 ,m>ian80 ,i ask$4 8,:y10 %e said1 8%\ld "s p be l>g] & m complete ?an o!rs80 8,h[ d y mean1 ,m>ian80 8,:y is x s8 ,:y ar5't we all alike80 8,if we 710 said ,h5ry1 8x w\ld be v monoton\s40 8,oh1 ,i "k t10 said ,m>ian4 8,b :y is x s1 anyway80 8,m>ian always asks ! unansw]able10 ,i said4 8,& /ill--if we believe 9 progress1 9 ! evolution ( self1 don't y see8--"s selves are m develop$ ?an o!rs40 8,if we believ$ 9 transmigration10 said ,m>ian1 8x w\ld be easy to und]/&40 8,y "k10 ,i answ]$1 8:at ,i ?9k ( transmigration4 ,b :e!r !re be transmigration 9 ! usual s5se1 or n1 ,i ?9k we all believe t 9 "s way we h liv$ until n[1 t we are n creat$ 9 "o mom5t1 t we evolve ?r\gh\t all "t40 ,& n[ ,i made a mi/ake1 tri$ an exp]im5t t 0 n successful4 ,i h _h misgiv+s1 n[ & !n--unf\nd$ ones1 ,i believe to-day--z to ! value1 to "y p1 ( a philosophy ( life :i* does n at once directly & concretely affect _! mann] ( liv+1 b does s indirectly & sl[ly ?r\gh affect+ _! ta/es1 op9ions & desires4 ,"o ( ! girls happ5$ to speak ( ! relation ( p>5ts & *ildr54 ,i _h realiz$ = a long "t t ?is 0 among ! press+ problems ( y\?--especially ( "s ( ^! p>ticul> "y p--& in/ead ( keep+ to my prep>$ "w1 ,i took advantage ( ! rem>k1 & laun*$ (f into t bottomless subject--)\t a pilot4 ,i said3 8,i ?9k x is "o ( ! grave/--p]haps ! only grave problem--( y\r lives1 & we might z well try to solve x n[1 if we c4 ,:at %all we d ) our p>5ts80 ,!re came a flood ( ideas & confessions4 ,i made s p]sonal a call ^u ea* "o1 & intimat$ t ,i already knew s mu* ( _! lives1 t !y 7 frank & op5 ) me1 & said to me1 )\t ?9k+1 mu* m1 ,i am sure1 ?an !y w\ld will+ly & delib]ately h said to ea* o!r4 ,!y spoke z if to me alone1 ev5 m5tion$ p]sonal circum/ances ( :i* ,i alone _h k4 ,naturally1 ,i w n write d[n t conv]sation4 ,i told !m ! difficulty arose f a *ange = ! bett] 9 ! relation betwe5 *ildr5 & p>5ts1 & t nei!r "o nor ! o!r _h fully realiz$ ! *ange4 ,! old relation ( fe>+ rev]5ce _h be5 *ang$ to t ( love & companion%ip4 ,i said1 mock-s]i\sly3 8,( c\rse1 we d "k m ?an our p>5ts c possibly "k1 & we are q able to judge ev]y?+ = ourselves1 & s we res5t be+ told to d ?+s----0 ,m>ian int]rupt$ me ) a solemn3 8,oh1 no60 & x 0 a mom5t be=e !y all realiz$ t ,i 0 jok+4 8,b1 truly10 ,i w5t on1 8we are s us$ to hav+1 & fond ( hav+1 our own way1 t we d *afe & ev5 feel contradictory ! mom5t we are ord]$ to d any?+4 ,don't y1 ,alfr$80 8,no10 said ,alfr$2 8only ,i don't l to /op if ,i h any?+ else to d40 8,i hate10 ,m>ian said1 8to be told to d any?+ :i* ,i don't want to d1 & = :i* ,i see no reason3 go+ to see p :om ,i dislike1 & :o bore me1 = in/ance40 8,!re10 ,i answ]$1 8! reason is cle>4 ,i rememb] feel+ s myself1 & ,i am n glad t ,i 0 giv5 my own way4 ,"y p mu/ "k & see & tol]ate all sorts ( folks1 ev5 pokey old relations1 s t !y may le>n to "k p & be able to *oose = !mselves z !y gr[ old]4 ,to "k _m is to f9d "s40 ,) t !y agre$4 8,b10 ,i w5t on1 8! tr\ble is n s mu* ) :at y want or don't want to d1 z ) irritability & impud5ce40 8,y mean #8sass+' y\r p>5ts80 ask$ ,virg9ia4 8,yes40 8,i #8sass' m9e10 %e said1 8:5 ,i ?9k !y w l x4 ,i :e$le my p>5ts1 & s ,i get :at ,i want )\t be+ disagreeable40 8,oh1 y don't c\nt1 ,virg9ia10 ,i w5t on1 8b :at ,i mean is answ]+ back1 be+ unk9d & contradictory :5 we w\ld r n1 do+ all sorts ( regrettable ?+s because we are 9 a temp]1 & !n aft]w>d feel+ mean1 sore & despicable1 & kn[+ t we 7 wrong4 ,t sort ( ugl9ess & irritation1 if x's n /opp$1 makes mean1 ugly1 irritable *>act]s40 8,i "k j :at y mean10 said ,m>ian1 8& ,i "k exactly :at ,i ?9k ( o!r p :o are l t40 8,x is ugly10 ,i said4 8,i dislike x1 because x is n beautiful4 ,h[ c any "o live a beautiful1 h>moni\s life :o beg9s by be+ out ( h>mony 9 8 relation ) ! p]son :om he loves8 ,= t is ! tru?4 ,*ildr5 (t5 love de>ly ! p>5t ) :om !y are always disagree+4 ,h[ %all we get und]/&+ & unity & sympa?y 9 life if we _c get x ) ^? ne>e/ u1 ^? we love80 8,( c\rse10 said ,h5ry1 8our idea ( life1 ( complete sympa?y1 is aga9/ all t k9d ( ?+40 8,x is mu* easi]10 said ,m>ian1 8to "k :at is "r ?an to d x40 ,we all agre$4 8,b :y10 ,i said1 8%\ld we suff] regrets1 & d ugly ?+s1 :5 !re mu/ be "s way to /op x80 8,:at way80 ask$ ,m>ian4 8,well1 fir/1 :at is our feel+ t[>d old] p80 8,pity10 said ,virg9ia4 8,h[80 we all ask$ r indignantly4 8,well10 %e w5t on1 8y get up = an old woman 9 ! c>1 because y are sorry = h]1 s t %e %\ldn't flop all ov] y\r %9s40 8,pity = ! o!r p60 said ,flor5ce4 7,we are always undecid$ 9 ! club :e!r to put ,virg9ia out ( ! room or :e!r to hug h]4 ,s1 9 our indecision1 we leave h] alone47 ,i said3 8,we us$ to be told to rev]5ce ! old4 ,i say to y1 rev]5ce e "o4 ,if y ?9k ( self z a symbol ( ! complete ,self1 z ! holy ?+1 !n y w rev]5ce ! self 9 e human be+1 9 e creature40 8,i don't ?9k10 said ,virg9ia1 8t we h mu* sympa?y ) ! self 9 animals we kill to eat40 8,t10 ,i answ]$1 8is ano!r "q4 ,x has no?+ to d ) :at we are say+ n[40 8,i ?9k x has10 %e prote/$4 8,!n10 ,i said1 8if y rev]5ce self1 & und]/& & respect ! self 9 e p]son1 h[ c\ld y qu>rel ) any "o80 8,y expect u to "k an awful lot10 said ,virg9ia1 8to "k e "o40 8,c]ta9ly10 ,i answ]$4 8,is n t our idea1 to rea* :at we desire ?r\gh und]/&+ & sympa?y ) e "o80 ,!y said !y c\ldn't respect e "o4 ,"s p !y c\ldn't help1 z ,h5ry said1 pity+4 ,i object$ /r5u\sly to t ^w4 ,all b ,h5ry agre$ ) me4 ,x is always a ^w ( scorn4 ,!y spoke ( 8feel+ sorry =0 p :o _h suff]$ "s loss1 feel+ sorry1 b n pity+4 8,!n10 said ,m>ian1 8"o ought n to say #8sorry =' b #8sorry )4'0 ,virg9ia said if a girl's "m _h di$1 & "o _h n kn[n ! "m1 "o might be sorry = h]1 b n sorry ) h]4 ,!y _h a little argum5t1 & to /op x ,i said "o might be bo? sorry = & sorry )1 b c]ta9ly "o w\ld h ! 8)0 feel+4 ,ru? object$ t :5 !re 0 an argum5t ,i always made bo? sides "r4 8,:y n80 ,i ask$4 8,by ! light ( complete vision we d see mo/ ?+s z true :i* fir/ seem$ contradictory4 ,our idea ( complet5ess is to include _m tru?s1 & %[ !m to be ! same tru?40 ,%e admitt$ t4 ,m>ian spoke ( p %e lik$1 b c\ld n respect4 8,if y knew !m f ! inside10 ,i said1 8z !y "k !mselves1 y might feel o!rwise40 8,yes10 said ,virg9ia1 8,i h always ?\ght t if anybody knew all ab\t me1 knew me j z ,i "k myself1 !y c\ld n help lik+ me40 ,i said3 8,x seems n mu* to expect ( u1 to und]/& our p>5ts1 :o are s anxi\s = an und]/&+1 & :om we love4 ,aft] all1 we d owe !m some?+--:5 y consid] t b = !m we w\ld n be "h2 & we are mo/ ( u r glad t we are "h40 8,yes10 said ,m>ian1 8,i w\ld l to /ay a :ile long]40 ,n[ we spoke ( _m ?+s1 _m p]sonal ?+s1 ( qu>rels & h[ to avoid !m4 ,virg9ia amus$ u by say+ p (t5 qu>rel$ ) h]1 b %e nev] qu>rel$ ) !m4 ,m>ian said3 8,if !re's "o ?+ :i* makes p feel mean1 angry1 self-reproa*ful & small1 x is to try to qu>rel ) "s "o :o won't be made angry40 8,naturally10 ,i said1 8!y c't help comp>+ !mselves ) ! o!r p]son40 8,yes10 said ,flor5ce1 8,i am always sorry & angry at myself :5 ! o!r p]son keeps cool or is hurt4 ,b :5 ! o!r p]son gets angry1 too1 ,i feel z if ,i 7 "r40 8,x's an ugly ?+ to be angry10 ,i said2 8x makes u s small1 %uts u 940 8,h[ d y mean80 ask$ ,m>ian4 8,x cuts u (f f t o!r p]son1 makes x impossible to und]/& at lea/ him1 & s keeps u f complet5ess & h>mony1 actually robs u ( "p ( ourself40 ,0 x all ! *ildr5's fault1 !y ask$1 :5 *ildr5 & p>5ts fail$ to und]/& ea* o!r8 8,z x takes two to make a qu>rel10 ,i answ]$1 8s x takes two to make a misund]/&+4 ,b "o c /op x4 ,rememb] t old] p h (t5 gone ?r\gh trials 9 life t h %ak5 _! n]ves & made !m s5sitive & irritable to little annoyances40 ,m>ian ask$3 8,d y mean fussy80 8,yes10 ,i said1 8& x is easy to und]/&4 ,b ! fact t 9 _m families "s ( ! *ildr5 get along well ) ! p>5ts1 & o!rs d n1 proves t at lea/ "s ( ! responsibility re/s ) ! *ildr540 ,we spoke ( self-control1 ( /&+1 z x 71 outside & above ourselves--! idea ( alo(ness--& n work+ l a ma*9e = ! impulse ( ! mom5t4 ,i said ,i _h kn[n p :o _h ?is tr\ble 9 y\?1 & /opp$ x ) a /rong resolution1 because !y saw x 0 a bad1 an ugly & a controllable ?+4 ,h5ry spoke ( ! old plan ( c\nt+ a hundr$ be=e say+ any?+4 ,we none ( u lik$ ! idea1 possibly because we 7 tir$ ( x2 ,i said1 = "o1 t ,i did n see h[ c\nt+ a hundr$ c\ld make me *ange my m9d1 :]eas ?9k+ might4 ,i said ! be/ plan 0 to put "o's self at once1 z x 71 inside ! o!r p]son1 & !n "o c\ld n possibly say ! disagreeable ?+4 ,h5ry1 x seems1 has only "o difficulty1 t ( want+ to express or keep 8 own op9ion at ! exp5se ( contradict+ 8 eld]s4 ,i said "o _h always ! "r to express "o's op9ion1 b "o might also d x z an op9ion1 say 8,i ?9k10 or 8,i believe02 t "o might always consid] h[ ! ?+ said w\ld impress ! p]son li/5+4 ,m>ian spoke ( p :o irritate y by _! pres5ce1 :om y dislike & :o grate on y1 no matt] :at !y may d or say4 ,!n ,i told !m ( ! sav+ s5se ( humor2 h[1 if we resolve to be amus$ by p 9 a pleasant1 g5ial way1 to see ! humor 9 human life1 we may avoid be+ hurt by !m or hurt+ !m 9 return4 ,virg9ia especially agre$ ) me1 cit$ incid5ts ( be+ amus$ by ! disagreeable1 & spoke ( ,dick5s z "o :o c\ld be amus$ by all sorts ( p1 ev5 ! mo/ 8bromidic0 or disagreeable4 ,m>ian said ,dick5s 0 amus$ by e "o b 8 h]oes & h]o9es4 ,!y almo/ always seem$ a h>d%ip to him & to o!rs4 ,i said we mu/ use e "o = our good4 ,t ^w to 8use p0 _h be5 employ$ 9 a bad s5se1 b ,i meant x 9 a good s5se4 8,:5ev] y are ) any "o y don't l1 ?9k at once :at y c get out ( t meet+4 ,e human be+ has some?+ = y1 & y = him4 ,self always wants to f9d self40 ,m>ian & ,ru? imm$iately ?\ght ( p f :om !y c\ld get no?+4 ,virg9ia1 :o does get some?+ f ev]y?+1 rem>k$ t "s p seem$ to h v little self4 8,to be a human be+ at all10 ,i answ]$1 8h[ mu* ( self "o mu/ h1 comp>$ ) ! animals60 8,i suppose10 said %e2 8t is :y "s p1 :o h n mu*1 rem9d me ( animals40 ,i said ,i 0 sorry we _h digress$ s f>1 & fe>$ we _h n arriv$ any:]e1 aft] all4 ,flor5ce said %e lik$ to confess h] s9s4 ,& ,m>ian answ]$ h] t x 0 a bad habit4 8,x is all10 said ,m>ian1 8:at ,i h he>d be=e1 & "k to be true1 & don't d1 anyway40 8,no?+ new80 ,i ask$4 8,n ev5 ! plan ( try+ to feel at once j :at ! o!r p]son is feel+80 8,oh1 yes1 t1 p]haps10 %e said4 ,m>ian seem$ to ?9k ,i _h giv5 h] a great _m dreadful 8slams02 b ,i c\ld n see x s4 8,i am sure ,i did n10 ,i said4 8,oh1 no10 %e answ]$ q s>ca/ically1 8n at all40 ,b %e seem$ to be> me no ill-w4 ,virg9ia said ,i want$ !m to be good & virtu\s4 ,no1 ,i said1 ,i _h n ?\ght ( t4 8,p]haps10 %e sugge/$1 8good b n virtu\s1 or virtu\s b n good80 ,i answ]$3 8,all ,i want y to d is to satisfy y\rselves40 8,is t all60 exclaim$ ,m>ian4 8,aft] y told u h[ we c\ld nev] be :olly satisfi$1 h[ we %\ld always want some?+ m60 8,! beautiful life mu/ be h>moni\s10 ,i said4 8,disjo9t$ beauty is n beautiful4 ,y rememb]1 we spoke ( ! city1 h[ a beautiful h\se might be made to look n at all beautiful by be+ plac$ next to a high wall1 or 9 any position :]e x did n fit2 h[ ! city c\ld n be beautiful until all ! p comb9$ to build a h>moni\s city40 8,by itself ! h\se w\ld be beautiful1 anyway10 !y said4 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8b 9 ugly surr\nd+s its beauty w\ld be half lo/40 ,virg9ia said3 8,if ,i saw a v beautiful little girl betwe5 two ugly monkeys1 ,i ?9k ! little girl w\ld look all ! m beautiful40 ,m>ian answ]$3 8,i w\ld imm$iately imag9e h] pett+ or fondl+ ! two monkeys1 & !n x w\ld look beautiful40 ,x turn$ out1 h[ev]1 t ,virg9ia's monkeys 7 figurative1 & t %e meant ugly *ildr54 ,?is 0 disconc]t+ to ,ru?1 ,m>ian & ,flor5ce1 & caus$ prolong$ giggles4 ,i said t w\ld simply be contra/1 n discord1 t contra/ might please & make ev5 ! ugly look beautiful1 b discord1 two beautiful h\ses s plac$ toge!r t nei!r look$ well1 two colors t 8kill$0 ea* o!r1 ^! 7 ugly4 ,beauty _h to f9d = itself or make = itself ! "r surr\nd+s1 9 ord] to be truly beautiful4 ,flor5ce said3 8,i ?9k x is a %ame p %\ld be lik$ j = _! looks4 ,i "k girls :o are lik$ j because !y are pretty1 :5 !re's no?+ to !m1 & o!rs :o are homely1 b mu* nic]1 :o are lik$ less4 ,i try nev] to let x influ5ce me40 ,h5ry said he nev] did let x2 t he always lik$ p = :at !y really 71 & n = looks4 8,i c't help x10 said ,virg9ia4 8,i "k a girl :o is horrid 9 e way1 & :5 %e is away ,i c't be> h]2 b ! m9ute ,i see h] ,i =give h]1 because %e is s beautiful40 8,p]haps10 ,i said1 8if y knew h] f ! inside1 z %e kn[s h]self1 y might ?9k t no "o c\ld help lik+ h]40 8,no10 said ,virg9ia2 8%e's "o ( ! p :o1 ,i feel sure1 _c ?9k t ( h]self40 ,m>ian agre$ ) ,virg9ia4 ,%e said :5 %e met p %e 0 int]e/$ 9 ! good-look+ ones1 & always judg$ !m by _! faces4 8,t is diff]5t10 ,i said1 8to judge p by ! "* writt5 9 _! faces1 z we judge !m by all ?+s4 ,b ?\gh all beauty is good1 ! beauty ( ! p]sonality1 ( life itself1 is surely be/40 ,,twelf? ,,meet+ ,?r\gh inevitable circum/ances ! club _h be5 discont9u$ = six weeks4 ,b ,i 0 9 p]sonal t\* ) all ! memb]s dur+ ?is int]val4 8,we h n met = s long10 ,i said1 8,i wond] :e!r y h =gott5 any?+ ( :at we _h done80 ,!y all assur$ me t x 0 cle> 9 _! m9ds4 ,h5ry said3 8,x has _h "t to s9k 940 8,i am glad10 ,i w5t on1 8t we happ5$ to /op at ! end ( a "p2 t n[ we beg9 anew at a new ?+4 ,b ,i am a little afraid to g on4 ,= n[ we are go+ to speak ( morals1 ( goodness40 8,:y are y afraid80 ask$ ,m>ian4 8,because ,i am s afraid we are go+ to moralize1 to become petty40 8,don't be afraid ( t10 said ,m>ian2 8,i h _h too mu* exp]i5ce to be likely to d x40 8,well1 !n10 ,i said1 8fir/ ( all we mu/ f9d out :at we consid] good1 :at we mean by ! good--t misus$ ^w--& to di/+ui% betwe5 ! true & ! artificial good4 ,h y any ideas ab\t x80 ,none ( !m _h any def9ite idea ( :at !y meant by ! good1 or ( ! di/9ction betwe5 ! goody-good9ess :i* repell$ !m1 & ! goodness :i* !y lov$4 ,!y ?\ght imm$iately ( 8good0 p :o are unlovable or /upid4 ,virg9ia & ,m>ian ex*ang$ rem>ks ab\t a girl !y _h met t morn+ at ,sunday-s*ool2 & all ?r\gh ! meet+1 until ,i f\nd effective means to /op !m1 !y ref]r$ to h] z an example4 8,n[10 ,i said1 8,i w tell y ( ! true good1 & by ! light ( x y w cle>ly di/+ui% ! artificial4 ,y rememb] ! fir/ law ( art40 ,h5ry _h ! pap] ) him4 ,x 03 8,art is a symbol ( complet5ess 9 a def9ite %ape40 8,s ! good1 too1 is a symbol ( complet5ess 9 a def9ite %ape10 ,i said4 8,goodness is always ( relation4 ,x means ! "r relation1 sympa?y & unity ( ^? :o "k ea* o!r4 ,& ! good man is ! man :o makes a complete _w1 a symbol ( ! p]fect awak5$ univ]se1 out ( ^? few p :om he kn[s--t is1 ( ^: exi/5ce he is aw>e--& ( all t he kn[s 9 ! univ]se1 :i* is a small "p ( ! :ole4 ,he makes x complete & p]fect1 by mak+ all 8 relations ) life complete1 & und]/&+ & beautiful4 ,y realize t a ,rob9son ,crusoe1 alone on 8 des]t isl&1 if he nev] expect$ to see human be+s aga91 c\ld n be ei!r good or bad40 8,yes1 he c\ld10 said ,virg9ia1 89 ! way he treat$ ! animals40 8,t is "r10 ,i answ]$4 8,if y include ! animals z selves1 he c\ld /ill be good or bad 9 8 relation ) !m4 ,b y see t goodness is ( relation4 ,x is hav+ our relations "r1 good & sympa!tic1 z f> z !y rea*4 8,t1 !n1 is ! law1 ! only law4 ,all moralities & sy/ems 7 made to uphold & fulfil t law1 & !y all *ange ) ! ne$s ( man & 8 circum/ances1 b t "o law is always ! same1 is always true1 is ! _s :i* makes all actions ei!r good or bad4 ,= ,i believe !re is no action 9 itself ei!r good or bad1 b all mu/ be te/$ by ?is law4 #8,is x good8' means3 ,does x make = true & und]/&+ relations betwe5 m58 ,d y agree ) me80 8,yes10 !y said4 8,take ! laws ( ,moses1 or any sy/em ( laws10 ,i w5t on1 8& y w see t !y 7 made by m51 :o realiz$ 9 !mselves ! "o supreme law1 ! law ( progress t[>d ! human :ole4 ,^! sy/ems ( laws1 if foll[$ by p incapable ( see+ ! broad way = !mselves1 w\ld lead t[>d t end4 ,b ! less] laws *ange ) circum/ance1 z a pa? *anges ) ! l&scape4 ,take ! ,mosaic laws4 ,! fir/ laws1 #8,?\ %alt h no o!r ,god1' #8,?\ %alt n take 8 "n 9 va91' & #8,?\ %alt keep ! ,sabba?1' seem to u n[ mu* less important ?an "s lat] laws1 su* z #8,?\ %alt n /eal1' #8,?\ %alt n kill1' & s on4 ,b if y /op to ?9k1 y w see t ^! fir/ 7 mo/ necess>y2 = ! p's idea ( ,god1 s mu* m limit$ ?an ours1 0 /ill1 l ours1 ! reason = _! morality1 ! law ( laws1 ! #8,i ,am' t gave mean+ to goodness4 ,9 _! condition1 if !y _h n rev]5c$ & fe>$ ,god1 !y w\ld n h kept ! laws ( ,moses4 ,! actions or ways ( life we (t5 he> call$ good1 b :i* ar\se 9 u a feel+ ( contempt1 z if x 7 goody-good9ess1 or self-righte\sness1 are actions accord+ to petty laws ( goodness1 by p :o d n "k ! _s1 ! great law above all laws4 ,sometimes !y are actions no long] good at all1 act$ accord+ to petty laws t we h pass$4 ,d y see :at ,i mean80 8,give me an example ( :at y mean10 ,m>ian said4 8,_m conv5tions are an example10 said ,h5ry4 8,yes1 !y may be10 ,i answ]$4 8,conv5tions10 said ,virg9ia1 8are nei!r "r nor wrong40 8,no10 ,i answ]$1 8!y are usually a matt] ( conv5i5ce4 ,b "s p d make ! mi/ake ( call+ !m "r or wrong4 ,!n aga9 y w he> p argue :e!r or n x is "r to tell ! tru?1 "u all circum/ances40 8,y mean10 ,h5ry said1 8t !y argue :e!r or n x is good to tell ! tru? z tru?1 n :e!r ! tru? w help u t[>d bett] relation40 8,exactly40 8,i ?9k10 said ,virg9ia1 8to tell ! tru? to hurt p's feel+s is wick$40 ,n[ !y 7 j go+ to h an argum5t z to tru?-tell+1 :5 ,i rem9d$ !m t ?is 0 :at we did n want to d4 ,m>ian spoke ( s*ool laws1 & said t ^! 7 (t5 )\t =ce or reason1 & t %e saw no great h>m 9 break+ !m4 ,:5 ,i rememb]$ ! folly ( laws 9 _m s*ools1 ,i c\ld n disagree ) h]4 8,( c\rse10 %e said1 8"o gets out ( sympa?y ) t class ( mortals call$ tea*]s40 8,h>dly10 said ,i1 8if "o is hone/ at all times4 ,& p]haps ! meane/1 mo/ c[>dly lie is ! lie ( evasion & %irk+ ( puni%m5t 9 su* a case40 ,h5ry said3 8,tea*]s ought n to ask boys & girls1 #8did y d ?is or t8'0 8,y are "r10 ,i answ]$2 8b1 aga91 no boy or girl ( _s1 c\rage & "* w\ld hesitate to answ] tru?fully4 8,self-sacrifice10 ,i said1 8is a good example ( ! sort ( action t is call$ good 9 itself1 :5 x is n at all s1 b has only a def9ite & limit$ purpose 9 ! s*eme4 ,i wi% to expla9 x to y4 ,b fir/ ,i want to be sure t y und]/& ?is idea ( good4 ,is x new to y80 8,yes10 said ,m>ian1 8,i nev] ?\ght ( x 9 t way be=e40 8,y all h said s little10 ,i w5t on1 8,i am afraid y may n fully und]/&40 8,!re is no?+ to say10 answ]$ ,m>ian1 8= x gr[s s naturally out ( ev]y?+ we h done40 8,our :ole ?\ght is l a *a910 said ,virg9ia1 8l9k )9 l9k40 8,alfr$10 ,i said1 8y are s sil5t1 y don't give u a *ance to see h[ bright y are4 ,n[1 tell me1 :at is ! good8 ,:at d ,i mean8 ,i want to be sure y und]/&40 ,he hesitat$4 8,! good is complet5ess1 h>mony40 8,yes10 ,i said1 8b ,i want x m def9itely4 ,! good is a sign ( t complet5ess4 ,to ! truly good man1 z mu* z he kn[s ( ! _w1 or dreams ( x1 is 8 :ole self4 ,& he wants t :ole self to be "r4 ,! good man _c be :olly good until e "o else is s4 ,! _w mu/ be p]fect to satisfy 8 desire = good40 ,ru? said3 8,x is :at y told u be=e1 t we _c be p]fect unless ! univ]se is p]fect4 ,b x seems to me t a man may be j z good1 ?\gh o!rs are bad40 8,yes10 ,i said1 8he c d 8 be/ to fill out ! gaps & make 8 relations "r1 b 8 goodness w n :olly satisfy him4 ,on ! o!r h&1 ! self-righte\s man1 :o lives accord+ to precepts & rules1 is easily satisfi$ ) himself4 ,goodness is beauty4 ,! good is always ! beautiful action4 ,b goodness1 accord+ to laws & precepts :i* are outworn1 :i* we h left beh9d u1 is no long] beautiful = u40 ,virg9ia po9t$ out t 9 ?is1 !n1 goodness diff]$ f art1 = ! objects ( art rema9$ beautiful ?r\gh hundr$s ( ye>s4 8,six hundr$ ye>s ago10 %e said1 8m5 pa9t$ pictures :i* probably _c be equall$ to-day40 8,b10 ,i answ]$1 8a man try+ to pa9t l ,raphael n[1 w\ld n pa9t beautifully40 8,no10 said %e2 8b if he tri$ to pa9t l ,franz ,hals or ,rembr&t he might40 8,n at all10 ,i answ]$4 8,( c\rse10 %e admitt$1 8he w\ld h to pa9t l himself1 to be himself40 8,surely10 said ,i1 8& s ) goodness4 ,ea* man has 8 own p>ticul> goodness1 accord+ to 8 circum/ances & nature4 ,b1 j z a beautiful picture is et]nally beautiful1 s goodness 9 ! pa/1 ?\gh x no long] seems good to u = practice1 is always delightful to ?9k (1 ?\gh x w\ld be horrible to imitate4 ,= in/ance1 ! self-impos$ pov]ty ( ,/4 ,francis ( ,assisi40 ,we spoke ( asceticism & ! ideals ( self-sacrifice1 & !n ( self-sacrifice itself1 z prea*$ 9 our own lives4 8,9 ! fir/ place10 ,i said1 8we mu/ get cle> 9 our m9ds ! mean+ ( happ9ess4 ,p w say to y aga9 & aga9 t ! aim ( life is happ9ess4 ,b if ea* "o ( u 7 to speak ( happ9ess1 & use ! same ^w1 we w\ld ea* mean some?+ diff]5t4 ,n[1 :at is happ9ess80 8,x is hav+ fun10 said ,virg9ia4 8,yes10 ,i said1 8t is all "r4 ,b t's only repeat+ ! same ?+4 ,:at is x t makes u happy80 ,flor5ce answ]$3 8,hav+ :at y l40 8,yes10 ,i said1 8b m ?an t4 ,x is hav+ :at y want mo/4 ,if y lik$ pie1 b y lik$ ice cream bett]1 !n pie w\ldn't satisfy y1 w\ld x80 8,no40 8,:at w\ld80 8,ice cream & pie bo?10 said ,flor5ce4 ,we decid$1 h[ev]1 aft] "s ?\ght1 t we w\ld give up pie = ice cream4 8,& ?is10 ,i said1 8is ! mean+ ( self-sacrifice4 ,x is giv+ up :at we want = some?+ we want /ill m4 ,& z ! ?+ we want mo/ ( all1 & = :i* we w\ld give up ev]y?+ else1 is complete h>mony1 sympa?y & und]/&+1 y see t 9 all our self-sacrifices we are giv+ up :at we want = :at we want /ill m4 ,we are giv+ up our small] = our l>g] self40 8,t is j :at ,book] ,t4 ,wa%+ton said at ! lecture ?is morn+10 ,virg9ia w5t on4 8,he said he _h nev] made a s+le sacrifice1 b he _h always done ! ?+ he lov$ to d mo/4 ,x is fun to d good4 ,x makes u feel s virtu\s4 ,& we d x because we l mo/ to see o!r p happy40 8,t is :at ,i mean1 ,virg9ia40 8,i don't ?9k x is s1 always10 said ,ru?4 8,i ?9k (t5 p are j =c$ to give up ?+s & sacrifice !mselves1 :5 !y don't l x at all40 8,t's diff]5t10 ,i said1 8if x is en=c$4 ,i meant volunt>y self-sacrifice40 8,ev5 s10 %e w5t on1 8suppose y are go+ out some:]e1 & y h to /ay at home ) "s p]son :o is ill1 j because y are ask$ to d x4 ,y don't l x1 b y d x1 anyway40 8,probably10 ,i answ]$1 8y love t p]son & t p]son's pleasure f> m ?an y d1 say1 ! !atre40 8,no10 said ,ru?1 8p]haps y don't love ! p]son at all40 8,b y love to feel virtu\s10 ,virg9ia said1 8& all ! "t y /ay at home y are say+ bad ?+s1 m5tally1 ab\t t p]son40 8,b y /ay f *oice1 y please y\r bigg] self & its dem&s = beauty10 ,i w5t on2 8y give up :at y want = :at y want m40 8,yes10 ,virg9ia said1 8= y w\ld be uncom=table & unhappy if y w5t40 8,y see h[ silly & *ildi% x is10 ,i cont9u$1 8to give up any?+ = no?+1 to d5y y\rself pleasures1 to make sacrifices = _! own sake4 ,t is "o ( ! false virtues :i* make p self-righte\s1 #8goody-goody' & ridicul\s4 ,i "k a girl :o gave up eat+ butt] dur+ ,l5t because %e lik$ butt]1 & %e ?\ght x noble to d5y h]self40 8,yes10 said ,virg9ia1 8& ,i "k girls :o won't take sundaes dur+ ,l5t1 b dr9k sodas in/ead1 because !y l sundaes bett]40 ,i read al\d to !m a ,rusk9 quotation t ,ru? _h br\ght "s "t ago3 8,recollect t #8mors' means dea?1 & delay+2 & #8vita' means life1 & gr[+2 & try always1 n to mortify y\rself1 b to vivify y\rself40 8,y see10 ,i said1 8,i believe 9 be+ selfi%1 9 ! v l>ge/ s5se4 ,i believe ! :ole _w1 all t ,i "k & love1 to be my :ole self1 & ,i want to make t z good1 z true1 z h>moni\s z ,i c4 ,:at p usually call selfi%ness is only self-limitation1 cutt+ y\rself (f40 8,yes2 x is mak+ y\rself little40 8,exactly4 ,take selfi% p1 & y w f9d t !y are n only mak+ o!rs unhappy1 b mak+ _! own lives v small & n>r[40 8,!y are unhappy !mselves10 said ,flor5ce4 ,i told !m a /ory ( ?ree apple se$l+s4 ,! fir/ said3 8,i w n gr[2 !re is s little room2 ,i w n help cr[d out ! o!rs40 ,he di$1 a weakl+4 ,! second said3 8,i w n be> apples1 because ! ef=t might spoil ! glossy appe>ance & fulness ( my foliage40 ,he 0 good to look at1 b--useless4 ,! ?ird "o said3 8,apple-trees 7 made to be> apples4 ,i l to d x1 ,i want to d x1 & ,i w40 ,& he did1 & s s]v$ himself & _m beside4 8,i nev] c\ld und]/& ! morality10 ,i said1 8t tells u to live only = o!rs40 8,x w\ld be impossible10 said ,h5ry2 8"o has to live fir/ = "o's self40 8,& la/ = "o's self10 ,i w5t on1 8= t bigge/ self :i* is our own life 9 relation ) all t we "k4 ,if we liv$ only = o!rs1 o!rs w\ld /ill live = o!rs1 & s on1 ) no end & no s5se4 ,x is l t idea ( liv+ = future g5]ations40 8,:at ( x80 ask$ ,m>ian4 8,i am p>ticul>ly int]e/$40 8,t we %all live = future g5]ations1 & ! future g5]ations %all live also = future g5]ations1 & s on =ev] & ev]60 8,unless x 7 all = ! la/ g5]ation10 said ,h5ry4 8,b t w nev] come10 ,i answ]$1 8or1 if x does1 x w surely n be wor? :ile4 ,i believe t :oev] lives ! be/ life = himself1 & does ! ?+ he is mo/ impell$ to d1 = 8 :ole big self1 is also be/ = all o!rs4 ,he mu/ be1 s9ce !y are a "p ( him40 8,x seems to me10 said ,m>ian1 :o _h be5 dream+1 8t !re is no absolute tru?4 ,:5 p claim t !y h f\nd ! :ole tru?1 & try to expla9 x to me1 ,i nev] feel conv9c$40 8,does our idea /rike y s1 ,m>ian80 ,i ask$4 8,oh1 no10 %e said1 8n at all4 ,y nev] make positive /atem5ts40 8,no10 ,i answ]$1 8,i am will+ to grant t :at seems true to me n[ may "o day be includ$ 9 a l>g] tru?40 ,we spoke a few words1 "h1 ( envy4 ,!y agre$ at once t arti/ic envy1 ! envy+ ( capabilities & tal5ts1 0 impossible to "o :o felt t o!rs 7 do+ ?+s = him1 t :at he lack$ 9 himself he w\ld f9d 9 o!rs1 = 8 satisfaction4 8,b10 said ,flor5ce1 8!re are s _m o!r k9ds ( envy1 :]e o!r p hav+ ! ?+ does y no good40 8,t's true10 ,i said2 8a begg>1 = in/ance1 envy+ ! ri* p 9 a re/aurant = _! food1 w n lose 8 hung] ?r\gh see+ !m eat40 ,i told !m ( ! dang] & difficulty ( our philosophy ( "r & wrong1 h[ ,i hesitat$ to tell x to !m = fe> !y might misuse x1 & h[ mu* h>d] x 0 to guide "o's self by s big a /&>d ?an by an unbeautiful1 ready-made morality ( little laws & precepts4 ,he mu/ take ! /raight & n>r[ pa?1 :o _c guide himself across ! prairies by ! pa? ( />s & planets4 ,virg9ia insi/$ on my repeat+ "s facts ,i _h told h] lately4 ,a "y ,fr5* girl ( good education1 made desp]ate by pov]ty & lack ( "w1 sla%$ a picture 9 ! ,l\vre1 9 ord] to be arre/$1 get %elt] & food1 & attract att5tion to ! inju/ice ( h] lot4 ,we discuss$ su* cases1 & decid$ t :]e society did s great a wrong1 ! less] wrong might be "p ( ! cure4 8,i _c judge p10 ,i said1 8:5 circum/ances drive !m to d wrong 9 self-def5ce40 ,we came ne> =giv+ e "o1 :5 ,i rem9d$ !m ( ! /]nness ( our /&>d4 ,x made u l5i5t ) o!rs1 :o did n--& p]haps c\ld n--"k t !y might ma/] circum/ance1 & t ! :ole _w 0 _! :ole self4 ,b ) ourselves x made u t]ribly exact+4 8,"s p are l animals10 said ,virg9ia4 8,i c't und]/& !m1 & _c sympa?ize ) !m40 8,t10 ,i said1 8is y\r loss1 y sup]ior animal4 ,rusk9 says some:]e1 & q truly1 t :o _c sympa?ize ) ! l[] _c sympa?ize ) ! high]40 ,n[ ,virg9ia plung$ (f into a /ream ( delightful nons5se1 told u h[ %e sometimes lov$ & sometimes hat$ h]self1 h[1 if %e 0 v happy1 %e _h to pay ! p5alty ( reaction1 & h[ int]e/+ %e 01 altoge!r4 ,z a puni%m5t we made h] keep /ill = five m9utes by ! wat*4 ,i hop$ ,alfr$ w\ld talk in/ead4 ,suppose we puni%$ him by mak+ him talk = five m9utes6 ,flor5ce said3 8,:at ,i l mo/ ( all is to be lik$4 ,i (t5 envy p _! lovabl5ess40 8,naturally10 said ,i1 8t is :at we all l mo/1 isn't x8 8,& ! truly good p]son1 9 our s5se ( good1 is also ! lovable1 belov$ p]son40 ,m>ian & ,virg9ia ex*ang$ glances4 ,!y 7 ?9k+ aga9 ( t girl 9 ,sunday-s*ool1 :o1 !y said1 0 ?or\ghly good1 b n at all lovable4 8,! good p]son10 ,i said1 8is also ! intellig5t1 sympa!tic p]son4 ,sympa?y1 und]/&+ love1 is ! great virtue4 ,i h made a li/ ( sev5 virtues4 ,w\ld y l to he> !m8 ,fir/1 ,love40 ,t1 !y said1 includ$ all ! o!rs4 ,yes1 ,i answ]$1 x 0 ! *ief4 ,second1 ,c\rage4 ,c\rage1 !y said1 to d z we believ$4 ,?ird1 ,tru/wor?9ess4 ,!y all agre$4 ,f\r?1 love ( k4 ,fif?1 love ( beauty4 ,six?1 insight4 ,sev5?1 a s5se ( humor6 ,dur+ ?is "t ,virg9ia & ,m>ian 7 fitt+ ea* virtue to t girl1 & f\nd h] lack+ only 9 ! latt] ones1 b no m lovable or int]e/+ ?an be=e4 8,ru?10 ,i said4 8,yes40 8,are y sure !y are n speak+ ( y or me80 8,i don't "k10 %e answ]$2 8p]haps40 ,!y prote/$4 8,d y "k ! girl1 ,ru?80 ,i ask$4 8,yes1 ,i d40 8,well10 ,i said1 8please br+ h] to ! next meet+4 ,%e int]e/s me40 ,ru? promis$1 despite ! prote/ations & explanations ( ,m>ian & ,virg9ia4 8,y w\ld "k1 !n1 ( :om we _h be5 talk+10 !y said4 8,v well10 ,i answ]$1 8%e %all /ay away on "o condition40 8,:at is t80 8,t y don't m5tion h] aga94 ,i always feel10 ,i w5t on1 8t :5 any "o is badly spok5 (1 ,i am be+ criticiz$ beh9d my back4 ,j z :5 a race1 su* z ! negroes1 = in/ance1 is unju/ly spok5 (1 ,i feel l fight+ = my rights2 = ,i take x z a m]e matt] ( *ance t ,i didn't happ5 to be "o ( !m4 8,flor5ce10 ,i cont9u$1 8is q "r 9 want+ to be lov$4 ,x is ! be/ ?+ 9 ! _w40 8,except lov+10 said ,virg9ia4 8,( c\rse10 ,i answ]$2 8b to want to be lov$ by ^? we love = :at we really are1 & truly to wi% to be :at !y c truly love1 t is ! :ole ( goodness1 ,i believe4 ,! only diff]5ce betwe5 vanity & true wor? is t ! va9 p]son wi%es to appe> to be :at is lovable--:i* is v unsafe--& ! truly good p]son wi%es to be x40 8,y mean10 said ,h5ry1 8t vanity is company mann]s80 8,yes40 8,i don't "k10 ,flor5ce said4 8,i h lik$ p :o us$ #8company mann]s' = "s company1 & n = o!rs40 8,i h kn[n p10 said ,m>ian1 8:o 7 always agreeable & sweet1 & appe>$ to want e "o to l !m1 & yet 7 n a bit lovable40 8,naturally10 ,i said1 8! p]son :o wi%es to be lov$ = :at he is1 is also will+ to be hat$ = x1 if he mu/1 by ^? :o ?9k o!rwise40 ,i said !re 0 a man ( :om we _h he>d mu* dur+ ! la/ days 7because ( 8 c5t5>y7 :o seem$ to be exactly :at we meant by good4 ,?is 0 ,abraham ,l9coln4 ,we sp5t "s "t speak+ ( him1 ! man :o1 x seems to me1 might h inspir$ a new ,am]ican religion4 8,we always sympa?ize mo/ ) ^?10 said ,h5ry1 8:o sympa?ize ) u40 8,we love !m mo/10 ,i said1 8b ! man ( l>ge he>t w (t5 sympa?ize ) p :o und]/& him no bett] ?an !y und]/& ! sun%9e3 ) ! bad man1 = in/ance40 8,t is true40 8,9 ! drama ( life10 ,i said1 8he :o loves beauty & 8 :ole self w live s z to make t :ole beautiful1 & = ?is joy & beauty w gladly give up 8 petty satisfactions4 ,= rememb] t ! good life is ! beautiful life1 & ! influ5tial life4 ,inde$1 e life 9 ?is drama has imm5se influ5ce40 8,= good or bad10 said ,h5ry4 8,yes1 surely40 8,i ?\ght n10 answ]$ ,flor5ce2 8ea* "o has a v1 v small influ5ce40 8,9 ! univ]se1 p]haps1 b we "k no?+1 & c "k no?+1 ( t4 ,we _c make comp>isons ) inf9ity4 ,b ) ^? we love1 :o "k u1 9 our own family1 our own circle ( fri5ds1 ! influ5ce ( ea* "o is imm5se4 ,?9k ( any family y "k1 ( y\r own family1 & see h[ mu* diff]5ce ea* "o makes 9 ! :ole1 h[ ea* "o *anges ! :ole4 ,ea* "o influ5ces all ! o!rs1 & makes ! tone & color ( life1 :e!r he w or n40 8,i suppose10 said ,h5ry1 8t ev5 ^? :o h no influ5ce1 :o d no?+1 c\ld h an influ5ce40 8,!y c't help hav+ x1 = good or bad4 ,& p c "k !y h ?is influ5ce1 & use x consci\sly1 to make life ab\t !m z !y wi% x to be4 ,z a woman :o comes into a h\se1 if %e loves beauty & ord]1 w set x 9 ord] at once & make x beautiful1 s t x w be all *ang$ because ( h]1 & = h] pleasure1 s 9 life we c set all ?+s 9 ord] & *ange !m to our wi%1 by our pres5ce & "*40 8,i don't ?9k10 ,ru? said1 8t ! good is always beautiful4 ,(t5 ! ?+ we h to d is disagreeable40 8,= in/ance1 :at80 ,i ask$4 8,9 s*ool "w1 = example4 ,we h to /udy subjects t are h>d & disagreeable1 simply to pass40 8,y mean t y h to d disagreeable ?+s to get :at y want4 ,naturally4 ,t is self-sacrifice4 ,& y _c always d ?+s z y w\ld l to d !m4 ,! woman 9 ! h\se might f9d ugly wallpap]1 & n be able to *ange t4 ,b %e w\ld f9d o!r means ( mak+ ?+s look bett]4 ,p c h consci\s influ5ce2 & ! diff]5ce betwe5 ^? :o make life good & beautiful1 & ^? :o attract att5tion to !mselves1 is ! diff]5ce betwe5 ! play 9 :i* all ! actors are good1 & comb9e to make a beautiful play1 & ! "o :]e !re is a /> :o wants a poor ca/ to set (f h] *>ms1 & produces an in>ti/ic & unev5 play40 8,i don't see h[ "o c\ld h consci\s influ5ce10 said ,m>ian2 8x seems to me "o lives unconsci\sly all ! "t4 ,i l to dream4 ,i am n fond ( act+4 ,i don't believe ,i w\ld ev] h any consci\s influ5ce40 8,to dream & dream & keep on dream+1 & n act1 is impossible10 ,i said4 8,b10 ask$ ,flor5ce1 8isn't x j ! dream]s :o d all ! great ?+s80 8,surely10 ,i answ]$1 8"o _c help influ5c+ p1 ev5 by "o's dreams4 ,b y1 ,flor5ce1 y mu/ realize h[ mu* diff]5ce ea* memb] ( a family makes40 8,yes1 ,i d40 8,& ,virg9ia1 ,i believe1 has (t5 made consci\s ef=t t[>d *e]ful influ5ce1 & kn[s :at ,i mean4 ,y1 too1 ,ru?2 ,i am c]ta9 y "k exactly :at ,i mean1 & ,i hope y & ,m>ian w talk x ov]2 = x is an int]e/+ subject40 8,yes1 ,i "k well :at y mean40 ,z we left ,i ask$ ,alfr$ to write a pap] = me4 8,=10 ,i said1 8!y w beg9 to ?9k y /upid if y %[ no sign ( intellig5ce4 ,& ev5 ,i w\ld l a tangible pro( ( :at ,i really "k1 t y d grasp exactly ! _s ( :at we say40 ,,?irte5? ,,meet+ ,m>ian 0 abs5t4 ,i read al\d ,h5ry's pap]3 8,la/ ,sunday we met = ! fir/ "t 9 almo/ two mon?s4 ,we _h f9i%$ talk+ ab\t art1 & we />t$ on a new c\rse 9 :i* we %all apply our /&>d ( beauty4 8,our topic la/ ,sunday 0 ,goodness4 ,good is a mu*-abus$ ^w4 ,we (t5 speak disda9fully ( a p]son1 z be+ a goody-goody1 b usually ?is p]son1 ?\gh n necess>ily bad1 is n good accord+ to ! /&>d ( to-day4 ,9 ! la/ g5]ation1 & ev5 9 "s places to-day1 ! good *ild is ! "o :i* does its "w consci5ti\sly1 & sp5ds all its sp>e "t at sew+ or do+ odd jobs ar\nd ! h\se4 ,! #8good man' does 8 "w fai?fully1 nev] swe>s or lies "u any circum/ances1 & foll[s 8 religion1 z x is set d[n = him by o!rs1 absolutely to ! lett]4 8,9 speak+ ( bad1 "o k9d we m5tion$ 0 t :i* 0 once good1 b :i* we h left beh9d u 9 our progress4 ,?is is true ( t old /&>d4 ,we h said t :at we want is complete sympa?y4 ,t :i* is beautiful is ! symbol ( complet5ess1 & ! good is beautiful2 & !re=e ! man ) a w>m1 sympa!tic he>t is ! good man4 ,a spl5did type ( ?is sort ( man is ,abraham ,l9coln1 a man :o suff]$ ) ! suff]]1 & rejoic$ ) ! happy2 a man ) *>ity = all & enmity t[>d none4 8,we condemn ! selfi% man1 b ! man :o does s mu* = o!rs t he does no?+ = himself1 is to be criticiz$ j z mu*4 ,hillel says3 #8,if ,i am n = myself1 :o w be = me8' 8,!re is really no su* ?+ z self-sacrifice1 = if y volunt>ily give up "o ?+ = ano!r1 x is because y l x bett]40 ,i said t ?is pap] prov$ to me1 :at ,i _h already suspect$1 t 9 ! la/ meet+ ,i _h dwelt too mu* on "o side ( our subject1 & n en\gh on ! o!r4 8,p]haps10 said ,h5ry1 8,i sp5t too mu* "t describ+ ! man :o isn't truly good80 8,no10 ,i answ]$1 8,i don't m9d t4 ,b y say #8! man ) a w>m & sympa!tic he>t is ! good man4' ,to be ! truly good & great man1 "o mu/ h m ?an a w>m & sympa!tic he>t1 m1 ev51 ?an a feel+ ( k9dl9ess & sympa?y = "o's fell[s4 8,y speak ( ,l9coln z a man #8) *>ity = all & enmity t[>d none4' ,b ,l9coln 0 mu* m ?an t4 ,?is alone w\ld n h made him great & spl5did4 ,:at did80 ,h5ry said3 8,he 0 a man ( det]m9ation10 &1 be=e ,i c\ld answ]1 ,alfr$ w5t on3 8,he 0 a man ( l>ge sympa?ies40 8,yes10 ,i said1 8x is ! comb9ation ( ! two2 x is m ?an bo?4 ,i mean t ! great & good man is ! man ^: f9al f>-(f aim is ! unity & complet5ess ( man1 :o %apes 8 life & 8 "w t[>d t aim1 :o works = x1 lives = x1 sacrifices himself & all ?+s to x2 & su* a man 0 ,l9coln4 ,he made mi/akes--he us$ !m = 8 cause4 ,8 morality1 8 law1 0 ! union--t symbol ( ! l>g] union--& = ?is imm5se self-fulfilm5t he work$ ) 8 might1 & di$ = x40 8,yes10 said ,h5ry1 8& ! great man mu/ make mi/akes1 & g beyond !m4 ,roosevelt1 = in/ance1 is always mak+ mi/akes1 & !n ackn[l$g+ !m1 & go+ =w>d once m40 8,surely4 ,& s ,l9coln work$ = ! union1 9 sympa?y ) all m540 8,9 "o spee*10 said ,h5ry1 8he ask$ ,davis1 8 oppon5t 9 ! ,h\se1 to #8help him save ! union4'0 8,n[1 ,h5ry10 ,i said1 8!re is ano!r ?+ 9 y\r pap]--if y don't m9d my say+ x80 8,n at all40 8,i mean t :5 y quot$ ,hillel y %\ld h f9i%$ ! quotation3 #8,if ,i am n = myself1 :o w be = me8' & #8b if ,i am = myself alone1 :at am ,i !n8' ,y did n br+ out ! idea ( ! l>ge & small self1 ( sacrific+ ! small self to ! l>ge1 because y love ! l>ge self above all else1 n because y l x bett]4 ,?is morn+ ,i he>d a lecture by ,pr(essor ,royce1 ( ,h>v>d1 & x is curi\s t he us$ exactly ! same words we us$ 9 speak+ ( self-sacrifice4 ,he said we sacrifice ! small to ! l>ge self40 ,at ?is po9t ,ru? came 91 & br\ght ,m>ian's pap]4 ,i read x at once3 8,our meet+ ( ! ,seek]s ( ,febru>y #ad? 0 v int]e/+4 ,we talk$ ab\t goodness4 ,fir/ we tri$ to def9e good1 & f9ally rea*$ ! conclusion t goodness means be+ 9 a h>moni\s relation ) all our fell[-be+s4 ,we %\ld try to make our life l "s beautiful picture or o!r "w ( art1 mak+ x a complete & h>moni\s :ole4 ,all our fri5ds & acqua9tances1 ev]y?+ we see1 he>1 d or "k1 help to make ?is picture2 & if we try1 we c consci\sly make x :at we want4 ,we are ma/]s ( our lives1 & if we rememb] ?is1 x w influ5ce all our ?\ghts & de$s4 ,we also spoke ( happ9ess1 & decid$ t ea* "o has a diff]5t k9d ( happ9ess1 dep5d+ on :at he wants mo/4 ,we also spoke ( self-sacrifice4 ,!re is really no su* ?+ z self-sacrifice1 because :5 we give up "o ?+ x is always because we ?9k ano!r f9]1 & because we want ! o!r m4 ,we _c h e detail 9 our picture z cle> z ! ma9 idea1 & we mu/ give up some?+ to br+ out ?is idea40 ,we all ?\ght ?is pap] excell5t4 ,i told ,ru? briefly :at we _h said be=e %e came2 & !n we spoke at l5g? ( ! importance ( liv+ our belief1 ( work+ = ! cause1 ( giv+ ourselves to ! l>ge self4 ,i said3 8,e great man has always done j t1 :e!r he 0 writ]1 philosoph]1 arti/1 /atesman or sci5ti/2 he has always devot$ himself to a "w :i* aim$ t[>d ! great union40 ,flor5ce said3 8,y mean n l ! philosoph]s1 simply to dream ( ! good1 b l ! arti/1 to "w x out8 ,didn't y say t1 :5 we spoke ( *oos+ ! arti/ic life80 8,no10 ,i answ]$1 8n q4 ,! philosoph] & dream] also "w = ! supreme good1 by %[+ :at x is l1 & po9t+ ! way :i* m5 aft]w>d g40 8,t is :at ,i always ?\ght10 said ,flor5ce4 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8! philosoph] is ! tea*] ( tea*]s4 ,b ,i *ose ! arti/ic way ( view+ life1 because x comb9es ! philosophic & ! sci5tific way1 ! vision & ! "w40 ,virg9ia n[ said3 8,b sometimes m5 :o "w = complet5ess1 & ^: motives are all good1 d h>m1 anyway40 8,:at d y mean80 8,jesus1 = in/ance10 %e said4 8,he has done s mu* h>m ?r\gh\t ! ages1 :i* he nev] meant to d40 8,x 0 n he :o did ! h>m10 ,i answ]$2 8x 0 ! p :o misund]/ood him & misus$ 8 words4 ,no great man ev] does all t he sets out to d4 ,he _c1 s9ce 8 aim is no less ?an p]fection40 8,i hate p]fect p10 said ,virg9ia1 8or to ?9k ( any great man z p]fect1 because x is s inhuman4 ,i read a book = *ildr51 lately1 ab\t ,jesus1 :i* made him out a p]fect *ild4 ,x 0 full ( contradictions1 = x said fir/ t he 0 a wond]1 :o walk$1 talk$ & ?\ght e>li] ?an o!r *ildr51 & !n x said t he 0 human1 & und]/ood all human weaknesses4 ,i ?9k t to "k m5 a man mu/ h human weaknesses & imp]fections40 8,yes10 ,i said2 8& ,i nev] ?\ght ( ,jesus z unhumanly p]fect4 ,he1 too1 _h 8 temptation & weakness to fight & ov]come4 ,inde$1 only ! petty man c\ld be p]fect40 8,b he w\ld n be p]fect10 said ,h5ry4 8,no10 ,i answ]$2 8b accord+ to 8 /&>d1 he might ?9k himself s4 ,! great man1 ! ,jesus1 ! ,l9coln1 c\ld nev] be p]fect1 = 8 p]fection c\ld only come ) ! complet5ess & beauty & goodness ( ! :ole _w4 ,y said ( ,jesus t he did h>m1 because ! doctr9e made f 8 words did h>m4 ,b y mu/ see t until all m5 are great m51 e man mu/ suff] s4 ,take ,l9coln1 = in/ance4 ,if he _h liv$1 & kept control ( ! ,gov]nm5t1 surely ! evils ( ! recon/ruction p]iod w\ld h be5 avoid$4 ,y might say1 !n1 t ,l9coln did h>m1 because 8 "w l$ to all t wrong & unhapp9ess40 8,b x has all come "r n[10 said ,h5ry4 8,h>dly10 ,i answ]$2 8x is n ne>ly "r1 ev5 to-day40 8,& ,i suppose10 ,virg9ia said1 8t f9ally ! "w ( ,jesus & ( e great man w come "r40 8,& ,l9coln's "w10 said ,flor5ce1 8w come "r soon]1 because x is n s l>ge z ! "w ( ,jesus40 ,n[ ,i said ,i want$ to g on to a subject :i* seem$ to me especially int]e/+1 ! "q ( ! mak+ ( laws & regulations4 ,0 x n a curi\s ?+ t m5's m9ds1 outrunn+ _! o!r p[]s1 %\ld see cle>ly ! great good = :i* !y /rove1 & %\ld make regulations = !mselves1 :i* !y 7 ev5 unable to keep8 ,h5ry & ,ru? did n ?9k x at all curi\s t p %\ld make regulations = !mselves1 b x did seem /range t !y 7 unable to keep !m4 8,to me10 ,i said1 8x seems a wond]ful ?+ t ! s5se ( beauty & fitness %\ld be s /rong 9 ! m9d ( man1 %\ld s f> outrun 8 impulses & 8 body1 t he creates = himself laws & regulations :i* he !n tries to foll[1 z "o sets up a ladd] :i* he aft]w>d tries to climb4 ,( c\rse1 we no long] believe 9 revelation1 9 ! old ,biblical s5se1 b to u x means revelation f )94 ,we d n believe t ,god dictat$ 8 laws to ,moses1 b t ,moses creat$ 8 laws f 8 own s5se ( love & beauty4 ,man made 8 own laws4 ,& 8 laws outrun him40 8,"s p10 said ,ru?1 8make laws = ! o!r p1 :o are n up to !m40 8,no10 ,h5ry said2 8isn't x really all ! p mak+ laws = !mselves80 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8= f9ally x is ! few mak+ laws = all1 = !mselves1 too4 ,x is humanity mak+ laws = humanity4 ,e "t a man does wrong & kn[s he is do+ wrong1 he is break+ "o ( 8 self-made or self-*os5 laws4 ,8 m9d outruns 8 p[]s4 ,:5 ,col]idge want$ to break himself ( ! opium-eat+ habit1 he us$ to hire m5 to /& 9 front ( ! drug-/ores & prev5t 8 go+ 94 ,he tri$ to ov]come himself ) himself40 8,i l ,col]idge10 said ,virg9ia4 8,i l p ) weaknesses1 :o try to ov]come !m40 ,i said ,i lik$ !m1 too1 t !re 0 no sight s /imulat+ z t ( fights & conque/s1 z see+ ! v ?+ we long$ =1 ! opposition beat51 ! difficulties ov]come4 8,b ev5 ! weak p :o fail to w910 said ,virg9ia2 8,i l !m1 too40 8,s d ,i10 ,i answ]$2 8! fight itself1 ev5 ! failure1 ! human long+1 is wor? :ile4 8,b ,i want y to see cle>ly "o ?+ ab\t all laws & regulations1 & t is t !y are sub/itutes4 ,!y are sub/itutes = und]/&+ love1 or1 r1 !y are ! =]unn]s ( und]/&+ love1 ! pa? ( beauty & fitness :i* ! m9d makes = itself be=e all our desires are /rong & h>moni\s en\gh to fulfil ! supreme desire4 ,laws are ! framework on :i* ! h\se ( love %all be built4 ,b :5 ! h\se is f9i%$1 ! framework %all no m be se52 nor is x ( value 9 itself1 b only z t :i* upholds ! h\se4 ,i w\ld l to talk ) y ( c]ta9 special laws ( ?is k9d4 ,& ! fir/ is ju/ice40 8,i 0 j go+ to say t10 said ,ru?2 8x 0 on my lips40 8,i 0 ?9k+ ( x1 too10 said ,h5ry4 8,i am sorry10 ,i answ]$1 8t ,i did n give y ! *ance40 ,we talk$ ( ?is subject1 & agre$ t al?\gh ju/ice1 ! s5se ( equity1 0 a great & necess>y virtue & a s]viceable tool1 x 0 b ! tool ( love1 & less ?an love1 & t if our und]/&+1 our sympa?y & possession ( life 7 complete1 we w\ld no long] ?9k ( ju/ice1 nor praise x2 t ! rigid laws ( ju/ice1 :i* mu/ (t5times *ange1 7 =ev] at ! s]vice ( love1 :i* made *anges & ov]came laws4 8,"s p are n s f> advanc$ z o!rs10 said ,virg9ia1 8& ! o!rs lift !m up ) laws4 ,"s p are undevelop$1 l animals40 ,we c\ld n help laugh+ at ,virg9ia1 ) h] et]nal animals4 8,y rememb]10 ,i said1 8,i spoke to y ( pa/ virtues t 7 good 9 _! "t1 because ! "t 0 ripe only = !m1 & t 9 _! own sett+ int]e/ & delight u1 & rema9 =ev] beautiful1 l old pictures1 b :i* w\ld n[ be ugly1 bad & out-(-place4 ,rev5ge is an example4 ,h[ ! old /ories ( rev5ge /ir & ev5 uplift u1 & yet h[ hateful is ! idea ( rev5ge 9 mod]n life6 ,y rememb] be+ ?rill$ & /irr$ by ! h]oism ( "s old duel1 :]eas y c\ld f9d no beauty or h]oism 9 any duel at ! pres5t "t40 8,i ?9k10 said ,ru?1 8x is (t5 ! language 9 :i* ! ?+ is put t /irs u40 8,x is ! _s ( ! "t & place10 ,i said4 8,no language c\ld make a duel 9 ,new ,york1 among educat$ p1 inspir+ or h]oic4 ,) w> x is ! same4 ,old w>s & w>s among savages may inspire u1 because ( ! h]oism & comrade%ip ( ! fight]s4 ,b among mod]n nations ev5 ! ju/ifi$ w> mu/ be some:at disgu/+1 because n[ f> m h]oism is requir$ 9 o!r works1 & comrade%ip c mean no less ?an all mank9d4 8,n[10 said ,i1 8c any ( y ?9k ( ano!r virtue1 l ju/ice1 :i* is a sub/itute = und]/&+ love80 8,yes10 said ,flor5ce2 8,i ?9k t pity is40 8,pity80 ,i said4 8,yes--p]haps4 ,/ill1 t is some:at diff]5t4 ,pity 0 good once1 because x 0 feel+1 & feel+ is ! root ( all und]/&+ & sympa?y4 ,b self-tortur+ pity seems to me a weakness4 ,sympa?y is q a diff]5t1 a /rong]1 a brav] ?+4 ,:o agrees ) me80 ,fir/1 !y said1 w\ld ,i expla9 exactly :at ,i meant8 8,sympa?y seems to me und]/&+ & love1 su* z y h = y\rself4 ,y are will+ to suff]1 s9ce x is a "p ( life & a "p ( ! way4 ,y want to suff] = ! cause1 if necess>y2 n o!rwise4 ,b y don't pity y\rself4 ,y w\ld be a%am$ to make s mu* ( y\r pa94 ,s y d n pity o!rs4 ,y love !m1 y feel ) !m1 y help !m bravely4 ,y c be> _! pa9 )\t mak+ a fuss ov] !m1 z y w\ld be> y\r own4 ,y consid] !m z /rong & brave z y\rself40 ,!y all agre$ ) me1 save ,virg9ia4 ,%e said3 8,if ,i /ep by accid5t on ! foot ( a little dog1 & he cries out1 !n t hurts me4 ,& ,i ?9k x is good1 because !n ,i "k h[ ,i w\ld feel if ,i 7 a little dog1 & ,i try n to d x aga94 ,isn't t pity80 8,p]haps10 ,i said2 8we are apt to pity l[] creatures4 ,b !re is no good 9 ! m]e feel+ ( physical pa9 t goes ) su* ?+s1 ( ! pa9 & ?rill up & d[n y\r sp9e :5 y hurt any creature accid5tally1 & he> x cry out40 8,don't y ?9k10 ask$ ,alfr$1 8x is only because !y cry out t we feel x80 8,maybe10 ,i said1 8= ! cry makes u "k ( ! pa94 ,at "o "t1 h[ev]1 a virtue 0 made ( ! m]e suff]+ ) o!rs2 & ,i suppose 9 its good "t ?is 0 necess>y1 because x develop$ ! feel+ :i* makes sympa?y possible40 8,i ?9k x is good10 said ,virg9ia1 8= :5 my si/] 0 ill1 ,i did n "k h[ %e felt1 or und]/ood h]1 & s ,i c\ldn't sympa?ize ) h]2 b lat] ,i und]/ood1 & !n ,i wi%$ ,i _h felt ) h] z %e did4 ,x w\ld h be5 bett]40 8,p]haps10 ,i said1 8= x w\ld h taught y to feel4 ,to "k h[ o!rs feel is ! be/ ?+ 9 ! _w4 ,b to let t feel+ ov]come & cru% y1 to pity !m1 is weakness4 ,i ?9k x is a weakness we h all felt1 & long$ to ov]come1 :5 we suff]$ s mu* ) o!rs t we 7 unable to act40 8,yes1 inde$10 said ,ru?4 8,to be /rong to help & /rong to d1 n ov]come ) _w-sorr[10 ,i said1 8to face suff]+ 9 ourselves & o!rs z some?+ to be ov]come & us$60 ,virg9ia spoke ( a curi\s calmness 9 h]self t made h] n act excit$ly :5 any?+ happ5$1 b always wait fir/ to see ! outcome4 8,if a *ild falls 9 ! /reet10 %e said1 8,i don't g ru%+ t[>d x z "s p d1 b wait to see if x w pick itself up40 8,b if x fell out ( a w9d[10 said ,ru?1 8,i suppose y w\ld ru% =w>d40 8,no10 %e answ]$1 8n unless x 7 necess>y4 ,i w\ld wait to see :at happ5$4 ,:5 my hat bl[s (f1 ,i nev] g ru%+ aft] x till ,i see :]e x is go+ to /op40 ,! juxtaposition ( a fall+ *ild & a fall+ hat 0 disconc]t+4 8,i "k h[ ,virg9ia feels10 ,i said2 8x is ! arti/ 9 h] always look+ on at all t happ5s4 ,x is a good way1 too4 ,n[ :at o!r virtues are !re1 l ju/ice1 t are really sub/itutes = "r feel+80 ,!y c\ld n ?9k ( ! o!rs4 ,s ,i m5tion$ hone/y1 :i* is mu* l ju/ice--ev5 a =m ( x2 /e]$ cle> ( a reef ( argum5ts on tru?-tell+1 %[$ !m h[ hone/y w\ld n ev5 be m5tion$ :]e !re 0 p]fect love1 & w5t on to ! next & mo/ important1 namely1 duty4 ,!y _h n ?\ght ( x 9 ?is way be=e4 ,!y all dislik$ ! ^w duty4 ,i spoke aga9 ( ! girl :o /ays home f ! !atre ) "s "o %e does n love1 because %e feels x to be h] duty4 ,:y does %e d x8 8,because %e *ooses10 said ,alfr$2 8%e wants to d x mo/40 8,b :y80 ,i ask$4 8,%e may ?9k10 said ,ru?1 8t ! o!r p]son w\ld d ! same = h]40 8,b %e may n ?9k s10 ,i said1 8& /ill %e w\ld /ay40 8,because10 said ,virg9ia1 8%e w\ld feel good aft]w>d40 8,yes10 ,i said1 89 a s5se x is t4 ,x w\ld give h] satisfaction40 8,i w\ld d x10 said ,ru?1 8b ,i don't ?9k ,i w\ld feel any p>ticul> satisfaction aft]w>d40 8,b10 ,i said1 8if y didn't d x1 y w\ld feel dissatisfi$ ) y\rself4 ,& !re9 lies ! explanation ( duty4 ,duty is a sub/itute = love4 ,x is ! sub/itute ! m9d imposes on u :5 our feel+s w n fulfil ! s*eme ( beauty & ord] :i* is our /ronge/ desire4 ,to d y\r duty is to fulfil y\r /ronge/ desire--lack+ ! great love4 ,love %all ov]come duty4 ,duty means only debt4 ,x is limit$1 small4 ,x is ! ugly framework t love mu/ make be=e x c build its beautiful dwell+-place4 ,! /rong man always does 8 duty1 because he fl9*es at no?+ t is on ! pa?1 b m & m he loses duty 9 love40 ,virg9ia said3 8,i ?9k x is fun sometimes to hate ?+s1 su* z hat+ to g to s*ool40 8,:y80 8,because to d a ?+ y hate to d makes y feel good sometimes4 ,i l x40 8,we h come to love ! h>d ?+10 ,i said1 8because x is ! gr[+ ?+4 ,we get to fancy t :5 we d some?+ h>d we mu/ be gett+ ahead1 because g5]ally x is true40 ,virg9ia said3 8,i l ! poem by ,rebecca ( ,sunnybrook ,f>m3 #8,:5 joy & duty cla%1 ,let duty g to sma%4'0 8,i wi% joy & duty 7 ! same10 ,i said1 8& t is j :at !y are :5 love conqu]s4 ,y h to d y\r duty :5 love fails1 & s x (t5 seems an unpleasant job40 ,i spoke n[ ( promises1 & ( h[ unnecess>y !y w\ld be 7 x n = our failures 9 love4 ,!n we w5t on to speak ( ob$i5ce4 ,we said t :]e love 0 p]fect "o w\ld n ?9k ( ob$i5ce or disob$i5ce4 ,ob$i5ce is a sub/itute = und]/&+4 ,he :o und]/&s does n obey4 ,he acts4 ,we spoke ( necess>y ob$i5ce1 ! sub/itute1 & !n ( ! family :]e p>5ts & *ildr5 7 s mu* at "o t ob$i5ce 0 nev] m5tion$4 8,a p]son out ( su* a home10 said ,virg9ia1 8w\ld n h en\gh to /ruggle aga9/4 ,i don't l p :o are j p]fect1 & h no?+ to ov]come40 8,we w nev] rea* p]fection10 !y said2 & !y all1 save ,h5ry1 agre$ ) me t ! greate/ joy 9 life 0 work+ =1 r ?an a*iev+ our desires4 8,b :5 we rea* p]fection10 he said1 8we won't wi% = x any m40 ,i refus$ to argue t problematic po9t4 ,i said3 8,be sure ! /rong & good man w always f9d some?+ /ill to fight & ov]come40 ,we spoke n[ ( h[ disob$i5ce might be a virtue1 ( ! rebels 9 w>s = fre$om1 & ! *ild :o w\ld refuse to obey 8 p>5ts1 if !y ord]$ him to d :at he ?\ght bad2 ! ?ief's *ild1 = example4 ,i said3 8,! framework is = ! h\se--n = itself--& if x doesn't suit ! h\se1 x mu/ be pull$ d[n40 ,n[ we _h an amus+ talk on conv5tions1 9 :i* ,h5ry object$ to full-dress suits1 b\illon cups & polite lies4 ,b ,i %[$ !m h[ good & necess>y 7 conv5tions prop]ly us$1 s9ce !y sav$ u weighty discussions on trivial matt]s4 ,i said x 0 a good ?+ we didn't h to wa/e "t & en]gy decid+ :at we w\ld eat = breakfa/ ea* day4 8,b10 said ,h5ry1 8if "s day ,i don't c>e to eat oatmeal = breakfa/1 ,i don't want to feel oblig$40 8,no10 ,i said2 8don't be a slave to conv5tion40 ,i w5t on3 8,if all ?+s 7 "r1 !n con=mity w\ld be good--?\gh un9t]e/+--b 9 ?is gr[+ _w we ne$ re=m]s :o sma% & re=m ?+s1 :5ev] con=mity becomes de=mity40 ,y notice t ,alfr$ spoke m at ?is meet+4 ,i _h told him t if he did n help u along1 & %[ :at he meant & ?\ght1 he 0 n liv+ up to our idea ( complet5ess & "w 9 unison4 ,,f\rte5? ,,meet+ ,i read ,h5ry's pap]3 8,a good man w br+ ^? ) :om he comes 9 contact into h>moni\s relations ) himself4 ,x is n en\gh to h a good he>t4 ,_m p are always mean+ to d good1 b nev] d x4 ,x is ! actions t c\nt2 = we said3 #8,art 7good7 is self-expression & self-fulfilm5t4' 8,_m ?+s :i* we call virtues are only sub/itutes = love & sympa?y1 :i* we are outgr[+4 ,! pr9cipal ones are ju/ice1 hone/y1 con=mity1 ob$i5ce & pity4 8,m5 h n p]fect sympa?y1 b (t5 d ?+s at ! exp5se ( o!rs4 ,!re=e man1 realiz+ 8 weakness1 has made = himself a set ( laws40 ,i object$ to 8 use ( ! ^w 8pity0 along ) ! o!r sub/itutes4 ,we _h ano!r %ort talk on ! subject4 ,virg9ia said3 8,i w\ld r commit suicide ?an be piti$40 8,!n10 ,i answ]$1 8s9ce we d n wi% to be piti$1 we c\ld n1 ) p]fect sympa?y1 d s unto o!rs40 ,virg9ia w5t on3 8,:5 a p]son :o has "s tr\ble or loss makes a great fuss ov] x1 ,i mu/ say ,i don't ?9k v well ( him40 8,we expect p to be> life bravely10 ,i said1 8& to help !m d x1 to d x altoge!r4 ,a man :o is prev5t$ f help+ by 8 own pity is l a man :o1 :5 he saw ano!r bl9d1 put out 8 own eyes 9 sorr[1 in/ead ( lead+ ! bl9d40 ,i said ,i want$ to speak ( a subject t seem$ especially to int]e/ ,virg9ia4 ,i meant patriotism1 b patriotism 9 a l>ge & unusual s5se4 ,:at 7 _! ideas on ?is subject8 ,virg9ia impli$ t patriotism 0 n good1 8because :5ev] y are patriotic = y\r own c\ntry1 y h to be patriotic aga9/ o!r c\ntries4 ,y seem to be prais+ & help+ y\r own at ! exp5se ( o!rs40 8,t10 ,i said1 8is j ! tr\ble ) ! false view ( patriotism1 & t view has gr[n out ( w>s & conque/s4 ,=1 naturally1 :5ev] p f\ght = _! c\ntry1 !y _h to fight aga9/ ano!r4 ,b ,i see patriotism--& any loyalty or fai?fulness--9 a l>g] relation4 ,?9k = a mom5t :at ! ^w patriotism really means1 9 its v]bal root1 & y w see h[ x gr[s1 h[ x beg9s at home1 & ends by includ+ ! _w4 ,:at does x mean80 ,h5ry rememb]$ t x came f a ^w mean+ 8,fa!r40 8,yes10 ,i said1 8x meant1 orig9ally1 loyalty to our fa!rs1 to our family2 & s y mu/ see :at x w\ld f9ally mean40 8,because10 ask$ ,ru?1 8we are relat$ to ! :ole _w80 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8we are relat$ to ! :ole _w1 we are *ildr5 ( all ! nations2 b mo/ ( all1 ( c\rse1 *ildr5 ( our fa!rs2 s t1 beg9n+ at ! c5tre1 we %all spread to all sides1 yet n lose ! c5tre4 ,! def9ite ?+1 ! love = ?is l&1 ?is home1 w come fir/1 & include all ! o!rs4 ,we w be patriotic = our ,fa!r1 ! _w40 8,d y suppose10 ask$ ,m>ian1 8t an ,engli%man c\ld be patriotic = ! ,unit$ ,/ates80 8,yes10 ,i said1 8& ,i am glad y ask$ t1 = x gives me a *ance to tell y :at =ms patriotism is beg9n+ to take4 ,an ,engli%man1 or ,am]ican1 may be patriotic = ,anglo-,saxonism all ! _w ov]2 = ! ,engli% language & lit]ature ev]y:]e2 he may dream ( x z ! _w-language2 & !n1 surely1 he is patriotic = ^! ,/ates1 z well z = ,engl&4 ,i am n go+ to prea* patriotism to y4 ,i "k y are all patriotic = ?is c\ntry1 = ,am]icanism1 = ! idea ( democracy :i* ,am]ica upholds4 ,surely ! s*ools1 f fir/ to la/1 dwell s mu* ^u x t an ,am]ican *ild c h>dly help be+ patriotic40 ,i 0 surpris$ at ! bur/ ( answ]s4 ,m>ian said1 on ! contr>y1 ! s*ool ) its cont9ual1 bor+ insi/5ce on patriotism1 almo/ made "o hate x2 t no *ildr5 lik$ to s+ ! patriotic songs4 ,ru? object$ t s++ patriotic songs 0 n patriotism4 ,alfr$1 ,m>ian & ,ru? spoke ( ! bor$om ( patriotic holiday celebrations 9 s*ool1 h[ ! well-kn[n m5 got up &1 z ,alfr$ put x1 8said ! same ?+ ea* "t40 ,m>ian said !y _h patriotism 8?r[n at !m 9 *unks40 ,flor5ce add$1 %e ?\ght we felt unpatriotic1 because we didn't want to be l ^? :o express$ t k9d ( patriotism4 ,we conclud$1 h[ev]1 t aft] all we 7 patriotic 9 spite ( ! s*ools1 & t ,am]ica /ood = some?+ big1 def9ite1 wond]ful4 ,i told !m t if only !y _h be5 away f x m1 !y w\ld und]/& x bett]4 ,& !y all admitt$ t ,am]ica1 insult$ ) false criticism1 w\ld ar\se !m l a p]sonal insult4 ,! picture1 ) its c5tral1 def9ite object1 /ill sugge/s univ]sal ?+s4 ,s "o mu/ beg9 ) loyalty to fir/ ?+s1 to family & ,/ate1 be=e "o c be loyal to ! univ]se4 ,i spoke ( ^? ,fr5* ,sociali/s ^: patriotism = ! :ole _w _h c>ri$ !m to ! po9t ( unpatriotism to ,france1 s t 9 a w> !y w\ld wi% to see _! own c\ntry de/roy$4 ,_! loyalty to work+-m5 ! _w ov] made !m c>eless ( ! /ate at home4 8,only to work+-m560 cri$ ,virg9ia4 8,b ,i ?9k "o ne$ be j z loyal to ! ri*1 & t !y are q z mu* 9 ne$ ( re=m & help40 8,i agree ) y10 ,i answ]$4 ,ru? said %e c\ld und]/& ^? ,fr5* ,sociali/s v well1 & to h] x seem$ t f _! own po9t ( view !y might be "r4 ,i answ]$3 8,f _! own po9t ( view1 ( c\rse4 ,& !y d want f9al1 univ]sal good2 b !y don't see t to ga9 ! l>ge "o mu/ pres]ve ! small1 t ! univ]sal mu/ beg9 ) ! p>ticul>40 8,l "s philosoph]s10 said ,h5ry4 ,we discuss$ ! subject ( w>--all disbeliev+ 9 x--)\t com+ to any def9ite conclusion z to :at we w\ld d "u any p>ticul> circum/ance4 ,virg9ia ask$ :e!r x w\ld be wrong ( a man1 if 8 c\ntry w5t to w>1 to refuse to fight because he disbeliev$ 9 w>4 ,h5ry said he ?\ght x w\ld be bett] to d z ! fight+ ,quak]s did1 to fight1 s t ! w> might soon be end$4 ,ru? said if all p refus$ to fight1 w> w\ld end4 ,i agre$ ) h]1 b said also3 8,if a man disbelieves 9 fight+1 /ill1 :5 he is /ruck1 he def5ds himself--t is1 if he has any _s4 ,s ,i w\ld expect a man1 no matt] :at 8 convictions1 to def5d 8 c\ntry :5 x is ?reat5$ & attack$40 8,d y ?9k10 !y ask$1 8t ,russians c be patriotic = ,russia80 8,yes10 ,i said1 8& t is a patriotism ( :i* we h n yet spok51 or p]haps ?\ght4 ,x is ! patriotism t seems unpatriotic4 ,! ,russian revolutioni/s are patriotic1 n = ! ,russia ( to-day1 b = ! ,russia t w be1 = ! ,russia !y are go+ to build1 = ! nation 9 _! he>ts4 ,(t5 ! mo/ patriotic man is he :o criticizes 8 c\ntry1 :o fights aga9/ ! pres5t /ate ( ?+s1 :o appe>s disloyal because 8 loyalty is l>ge4 ,su* 7 ! coloni/s1 loyal to ! union & indep5d5ce40 ,i quot$ t slogan at ! "t ( ! ,spani%-,am]ican w>3 8,my c\ntry1 "r or wrong1 my c\ntry /ill40 ,!y 7 indignant at su* an appeal1 & agre$ ) me t bl9d loyalty 0 slavi%ness4 ,i told a /ory to illu/rate :at ,i meant4 ,suppose a family to be 9 grave debt1 b c>eless ab\t pay+1 & unwill+ to make sacrifices4 ,"o memb]1 ) ! family honor at he>t1 insi/s on ^! sacrifices & h>d%ips = all1 until ! debts are paid4 ,8 bro!rs & si/]s may accuse him ( unk9dness & disloyalty1 b he w be ! truly loyal "o4 ,n[1 ,i ask$1 :at 0 ! next law 9 art8 ,h5ry br\ght out 8 pap] & read3 8,mu/ leave out ! unimportant40 8,yes10 ,i said1 8& ! next "o reads3 ,mu/ h v>iety & _m-sid$ness4 ,d y und]/& at all h[ ^! apply to life80 8,y don't mean10 ask$ ,m>ian1 8t we are nev] to d any?+ unimportant1 t we are always to be ?9k+ ab\t x80 8,no10 ,i answ]$1 8c]ta9ly n4 ,b ,i mean t we are to h a def9ite aim 9 life1 t we are to "k :at we want mo/ ( all4 ,!n we c avoid ev]y?+ :i* int]f]es ) ?is aim4 ,we are to *oose ! sort ( life t w help u to be :at we wi% to be1 t w make u :ole & h>moni\s40 8,i don't "k :at ,i want to be10 said ,m>ian4 8,i don't ?9k "o ne$ h a def9ite consci\s aim40 8,y d n q und]/& me1 ,m>ian10 ,i answ]$4 8,y ne$ n *oose n[ :at y\r pr(ession w be1 or :at def9ite ?+ y want mo/4 ,v few p z "y z y h done t40 ,m>ian said3 8,flor5ce has40 8,flor5ce80 ,i ask$4 8,%e said %e lov$ mo/ to be lov$40 8,we all d10 said ,h5ry2 8to be lov$1 & to love o!rs40 8,i w\ld l10 said ,flor5ce1 8to dance z well z my danc+ tea*]40 ,i express$ grave d\bts z to ! p]man5ce ( ?is ambition4 8,b10 ,i said1 8:at ,i mean1 ,m>ian1 is t y want to be a c]ta9 k9d ( p]son1 t y mu/ h an idea ( y\rself :i*1 ev5 unconsci\sly1 y try to atta92 & x is ?is ideal1 ?is vision ( ! self y wi% to be1 & mean to be1 t %\ld color & %ape y\r life1 z an arti/'s idea ( 8 c5tral figure & mean+ controls 8 :ole execution40 8,i'm sure ,i don't ?9k ( x all ! "t10 %e said2 8,i l j to live along1 & dream1 & be :at ,i happ5 to be40 8,n[1 ,m>ian10 ,i answ]$1 8y are say+ :at y ?9k is true4 ,b ,i w %[ y t x is n4 ,y live = y\r desir$ self1 ev5 unconsci\sly4 ,d y n rememb] do+ or leav+ undone c]ta9 little ?+s :i* y\r ideal ( y\rself want$ o!rwise1 & !n reproa*+ y\rself = days = ?is small lapse into selfi%ness or unk9dness80 ,!y _h all _h ?is annoy+ exp]i5ce1 z well z ,i myself4 ,m>ian told h[1 :5 %e 0 q a small girl1 some?+ _h happ5$ t %e _h nev] =gott54 ,a little begg>-girl1 ) only rubb]s ov] h] /ock+s1 came to ! door & ask$ ,m>ian = old clo!s4 ,m>ian _h be5 read+ /ories1 & 0 long+ to act !m4 ,b h] "m 0 out1 & %e _h n ! c\rage to d any?+2 s %e turn$ ! *ild away ) a mumbl$ excuse ab\t h] "m's n be+ at home4 ,& %e _h nev] =giv5 h]self4 ,m>ian saw t :at ,i meant by a def9ite aim 9 life 01 aft] all1 indef9ite en\gh to suit h]4 ,virg9ia said3 8,:5 ,i want to d "s k9d or good ?+ :i* x is h>d to d1 because ,i lack c\rage1 ,i make up my m9d t ,i w d x anyway1 )\t ?9k+2 ,i walk "r 91 & !n ! re/ is always easy & pleasant40 8,9 o!r words10 ,i answ]$1 8y manage y\rself4 ,i d believe x is good to "k :at y want to be1 & h[ y want to be x1 & !n to avoid /r5u\sly ev]y?+ t int]f]es40 ,we spoke ( wa/$ & wor?less conv]sation ) 8outsid]s10 & ,i w>n$ !m all aga9/ bor+ p1 or all[+ !mselves to be bor$4 ,x is bett] n to talk at all4 ,virg9ia said %e always made p amuse h]1 :i* seem$ to u a good way4 ,i sugge/$ gett+ p to tell ( !mselves1 s9ce all human nature is int]e/+4 ,b ,ru? object$ t p :o did x 7 ! wor/ bores1 & only conceit$ p w\ld d x4 8,at any rate10 ,i said1 8please don't get into ! habit ( mak+ flat conv]sation1 = !n y y\rselves w deg5]ate into bores40 ,& we decid$ t m]rim5t w\ld cov] _m ills4 ,we spoke ( ! wor? ( k4 ,! boys & girls h to /udy subjects unpr(itable to !m1 = ! sake ( pass+ c]ta9 exam9ations4 ,?is1 ( c\rse1 is a def9ite sacrifice = a def9ite reason4 ,b x is necess>y1 9 all /udy+1 to *oose "s subjects & to sacrifice o!rs4 ,i said ,i w\ld v mu* l to "k ev]y?+4 8,yes10 ,h5ry answ]$1 8,i always wi% ,i might "k ev]y?+ !re is to "k40 8,b1 ( c\rse1 we c't10 ,i said1 8& s we h to *oose fir/ t k :i* we ne$1 :i* w make our life z we wi% x to be40 ,alfr$ told u h[ he _h *os5 to /udy ,fr5* & ,g]man in/ead ( ,lat91 because !y seem$ m necess>y to him1 ?\gh he w\ld l to "k !m all4 8,&10 ,i said1 8! ?+ y love y %all seek ) y\r might4 ,y mu/ def9itely want to be a c]ta9 sort ( a p]son 9 life1 else y may be no sort ( p]son4 ,h y notic$ h[ "s p1 :o 7 q *>m+ 9 y\?1 #8pet] out' :5 !y gr[ old]1 h[ !y lose all int]e/ 9 ?+s1 & become dull8 ,to me t seems unnecess>y4 ,age may be j z full1 int]e/+ & active z y\?1 to ^? ^: life has a def9ite aim & mean+40 ,h5ry said3 8,yes1 ,i wi% to live long4 ,i h he>d p say !y w\ld n l to be old1 & to be a burd5 to o!rs40 8,b y10 ,i answ]$1 8mean to live long & n be a burd5 to o!rs40 8,yes10 he said4 8,y mu/ conc5trate10 ,i w5t on2 8y mu/ get out ( life only :at y ne$ & want40 ,flor5ce said %e c\ldn't conc5trate 9 h] /udies1 except :5 %e lov$ !m4 ,naturally1 ,i answ]$1 x 0 /rong love t made u conc5trate4 ,virg9ia said3 8,i us$ to /udy1 only in/ead ( /udy+ ,i look$ out ( ! w9d[40 8,b n[1 at y\r art10 ,i answ]$1 8y "w ) conc5tration1 because y love x40 ,h5ry rem>k$ t p]haps1 :5 %e 0 look+ out ( ! w9d[1 %e /udi$ ! l&scapes4 ,at ?is po9t ,m>ian1 he>+ voices 9 ! next room1 :isp]$ to ,ru? :e!r %e knew :o 0 !re4 8,/range10 ,i said4 8,until y spoke ( x1 ,i did n notice any voices4 ,d y love ?is club8 ,well1 ,i d1 too2 & :5 ,i am "h1 no matt] :at happ5$ be=e1 or w happ5 aft]w>d1 or may be happ5+ n[1 ,i ?9k ( no?+ b :at we are do+1 ,i =get ev]y?+ else4 ,d y rememb] ! diff]5ce betwe5 ! pa9t+ & ! photograph8 ,! photographic plate takes e detail1 unimportant & mean+less2 ! picture conta9s only t :i* makes x complete & beautiful4 ,let y\r life be a picture1 n a photograph4 ,d n let y\r life be a s5sitive plate t _c def5d itself aga9/ any impression4 ,let x be an arti/'s "w1 *os51 complete1 beautiful4 ,leave out :at does n conc]n y4 8,n[1 :at is x10 ,i ask$1 8:i* all ( u d love be/1 & :i* includes all our less] loves80 ,h5ry answ]$3 8,y mean complete sympa?y & und]/&+40 8,yes10 ,i w5t on1 8& all our lives are diff]5t1 def9ite expressions ( t desire40 ,we spoke a few words ( ^? p :o mi/ake ! means = ! end1 :o make an end ( bus9ess1 a?letics1 or ev5 /udy1 s t !y =get ^! are only a means to ! end1 & de/roy or wa/e _! own p[]s 9 "s pett9ess4 8,ea* life10 ,i said1 8mu/ be a diff]5t1 def9ite expression ( ! long+ = unity40 8,def9ite80 ask$ ,m>ian aga94 8,if ,i 7 always to be ?9k+ :at sort ( p]son ,i meant to be1 ,i w\ld be dreadfully self-consci\s40 8,no10 ,i said1 8y w\ld n ?9k x1 y w\ld live x4 ,desire is a habit4 ,self-consci\sness ( ! /ilt$ sort attempts to realize :at sort ( p]son y appe> or are1 & !n to act y\r "p4 ,!n y usually fail1 & y are usually wrong 9 y\r e/imate4 ,b "k :at y long to be2 & !n be x1 because ( y\r /rong desire4 ,x is n necess>y to h *os5 y\r life-"w n[1 b y w *oose x "s day1 & mean:ile y want to be ready & op5 = x4 ,y & ,alfr$ h n yet *os51 nor ne$ *oose4 ,b ! o!rs believe !y h *os54 ,& !re is no reason :y ea* "o %\ld n d j :at he sets out to d4 ,ea* life & ea* mom5t ( ea* life is trem5d\sly important4 ,ea* man is z great z he loves to be4 ,! diff]5ce betwe5 ! great g5ius & ! common1 scatt]$ man1 is ! diff]5ce 9 desire4 ,great desire makes great de$s4 ,x is n s mu* capacity1 s call$1 z ! desire1 ! conc5tration & ! belief t y c40 8,self-confid5ce10 !y said4 8,yes1 surely4 ,:5 a man has 8 call1 :5 he feels t he mu/ d a ?+1 !n he c4 ,did y ev] ?9k ( ! ^w #8call+1' :at a trem5d\s ?+ x means80 8,vocation10 said ,ru?4 8,yes10 ,i said1 8y\r vocation4 ,"s ( u h our call e>ly1 & "s late1 b we c always foll[ x to ! end ) love & c\rage4 ,i believe t ea* "o ( y is go+ to d great ?+s4 ,i want y to believe t y are go+ to be great1 = !n y w40 ,h5ry said3 8,i mean to be a great man4 ,i "k ,i c1 if ,i "w = x4 ,:5 "s "o f\nd fault ) me = criticiz+ ,l9coln1 because ,i 0 nobody1 ,i answ]$ t ,i meant to be great] ?an ,l9coln4 ,& ,i d40 8,& y %all4 ,& ,i believe t ,virg9ia w be z great an arti/ z %e means to be4 ,& ,i believe t if ,flor5ce p]si/s1 %e %all dance bett] ?an ,isadora ,duncan1 & make ( danc+ a great & noble art40 8,x is s10 said ,m>ian & ,ru?4 8,x is an expression ( ! highe/ art40 8,surely x is10 ,i said4 8,& ,i believe t ,ru? w re=m ! :ole k9d]g>t5 sy/em1 & give u new & f9] ideas on education40 8,i w10 said ,ru?4 8,i believe x & "k x1 too10 said ,m>ian2 8%e _h h] call e>ly4 ,%e has always be5 tea*+ little *ildr540 8,ambition is good10 ,i said2 8x is be/4 ,he :o desires great ?+s w d greatly4 ,g5ius is desire4 ,& great g5ius is mo/ desire4 8,ea* "o10 ,i said1 8w !n be a p]son ) a mean+1 b = all t a l>ge1 _m-sid$ p]son4 ,d y und]/&1 ,m>ian8 ,9 a picture !re is light & %ade1 & contra/ makes complet5ess4 ,s 9 life1 re/ & "w & play1 m]rim5t & s]i\sness1 /udy & ex]cise1 & all ! _m diff]5t ?+s t make up life are ne$$ to make x :ole4 ,i believe 9 conc5tration1 9 v>iety40 8,:at d y mean10 ask$ ,flor5ce1 8by conc5tration 9 v>iety80 8,i mean10 ,i said1 8t we w make e activity 9 life ! sort we ne$1 t our pleasures w suit our /udies4 ,our ta/e & lik+ 9 e k9d ( ?+ w h>monize4 ,we w l only good nons5se4 ,ev5 our recreation mu/ h a c]ta9 "*1 & satisfy our ta/e4 ,ea* p]son /&s = a def9ite vision ( life40 ,virg9ia said3 8,at ! academy %[ la/ ye>1 y rememb] t picture by ,pis*oto ( an ,italian g>d51 ) a f\nta98 ,x 0 calm1 ! wat] p\r$ d[n s(tly1 all 0 /ill4 ,at ! ,spani% exhibition1 ,i saw a picture by ,sorolla ( ! same spot2 b x 0 jubilant1 ! wat] leap$1 ! sun sp>kl$1 ev]y?+ 0 gay4 ,x 0 ! diff]5ce 9 temp]am5t t made ! same spot unlike40 8,yes10 ,i said2 8,i am glad y told u t4 ,= ,i believe ea* p]son mu/ be a rhy?m 9 life1 mu/ /& = himself1 & be a =ce & a measure ( life to ^? ab\t him40 ,we spoke a few words m1 to make ?is cle>2 & !n ,i read to !m two slips f ! ,rusk9 cal5d>1 :i* ,ru? _h br\ght3 8,all t is highe/ 9 ,art1 all t is creative & imag9ative is =m$ & creat$ by e arti/ = himself1 & _c be repeat$ or imitat$ by o!rs40 8,rememb] t x is ( ! v highe/ importance t y %\ld "k :at y are1 & det]m9e to be ! be/ t y may be40 ,next meet+ w be ,ru?'s meet+ on ,*ri/ian ,sci5ce4 ,,fifte5? ,,meet+ ,we _h our meet+ on ,*ri/ian ,sci5ce4 ,i wi% to record x 9 s f> only z x relat$ to our plann$ "w1 z ,i ?9k nei!r ,ru?'s exposition nor our answ]s 7 orig9al or enlight5+4 ,i _h giv5 h] a li/ ( topics4 ,! fir/ 0 ! idea ( ,god4 ,9 ?is we f\nd we agre$1 & x gave occasion = mu* review+4 ,ru? _h translat$ all h] ideas f ! vocabul>y ( ,*ri/ian ,sci5ce to t ( our club1 & ?is help$ h] to %ape h] ?\ghts4 ,we spoke at "s l5g? ( ! p]sonal & univ]sal self4 ,!y call$ x 8two selves10 & ,i answ]$ !m t x 0 only "o1 ! "o includ+ ! o!r4 ,) ! subject & matt] & _s we _h "s tr\ble4 ,!y all und]/ood :at ,i said1 b fail$--,i1 too--to und]/& ,ru?2 & we are n sure n[ :e!r %e & ,i agree4 ,m>ian said3 8,sci5ti/s speak ( #8dead matt]1' ( all matt] z dead4 ,is t s80 ,i repeat$ my ideas on _s & matt]--all =m is an expression ( _s--& also insi/$ on ! limitations ( our k4 ,i said3 8,matt] seems nev] to be dead1 because :5 "o =ce takes leave ( x1 ano!r comes into possession1 & decay is always ! beg9n+ ( new life40 ,m>ian answ]$3 8,y mean ! p>ticles 9 ?is table are held toge!r by a =ce80 8,surely40 8,:at is x8 ,does x feel80 ,aga9 ,i plead$ ignorance4 ,we spoke ( =m z ! et]nal *ang+ expression ( _s1 ( "t z m]ely ! measure & rhy?m ( progress or *ange4 ,s ,ru? f\nd me will+ to grant t all bad 0 a condition1 n an unalt]able ?+1 & t "t 0 only a conv5tion4 ,conc]n+ immortality ,ru? believ$ all ,i d1 & m besides4 ,alfr$ n[ agrees ) me4 ,he1 too1 feels t 9 "s way he mu/ cont9ue to be4 ,( ! individual--or s\l--,ru? ?\ght z ,i4 ,we also agre$ on moral good & bad1 & on ! use & mann] ( pray]4 ,m>ian ask$ me3 8,:y1 if m9d =ce =ms body1 c we n make our bodies p]fect at once80 ,i answ]$ h] t m9d =ce _h =m$ our bodies 9 ! pa/1 z !y 7 n[1 & t our pres5t1 m5tal =ce 0 mak+ future physical conditions2 t all ?+s w5t sl[ly1 & ! results ( ! pa/ 7 inevitable4 ,i spoke ( ! influ5ce m9d & action _h on ! body1 on circulation1 = in/ance4 ,i said aga9 t physical p]fection c\ld n be ! aim1 b only "o ( ! conditions ( progress4 ,on ! subject ( disease & cure ,ru? & ,i disagre$ entirely4 ,b ?is we bo? held to be n trem5d\sly important4 ,i d n c>e "h to record ! argum5ts--n 9 ! lea/ bitt] or heat$--:i* we gladly left 9 air4 ,none ( u 0 9 ! lea/ conv9c$ by ,ru?1 & we 7 frank--%e1 z well z we--9 our expressions ( op9ion4 ,s we f\nd ,ru? 0 ) u 9 all t matt]$1 & _h be5 c&idly ) u all ! :ile4 ,! *ildr5 said ! club _h n *ang$ _! views1 b enl>g$ & ord]$ !m4 ,i read al\d ! ,*ri/ian ,sci5ce pray] ,ru? _h br\ght "s weeks ago3 ,,my ,,pray] 8,to be ev] consci\s ( my unity ) ,god1 to li/5 = 8 voice1 & he> no o!r call4 ,to sep>ate all error f my ?\ght ( man1 & see him only z my fa!r's image1 to %[ him rev]5ce & %>e ) him my holie/ treasures4 8,to keep my m5tal home a sacr$ place1 gold5 ) gratitude1 r$ol5t ) love1 :ite ) purity1 cleans$ f ! fle%4 8,to s5d no ?\ght into ! _w t w n bless1 or *e]1 or purify1 or heal4 8,to h no aim b to make e>? a fair]1 holi] place1 & to rise ea* day into a high] s5se ( ,life & ,love40 ,we lik$ all ( x1 save ! words 8cleans$ f ! fle%40 ,ru? expla9$ t ?is meant cleans$ f ! idea ( evil 9 ! fle%4 8,!n10 ,i answ]$1 8! au?or %\ld h said1 ?\gh x is less poetical1 #8cleans$ f ! prejudice aga9/ ! fle%4' ,i w\ld agree ) t40 ,virg9ia aga9 sugge/$ ! subject ( animal consci\sness1 by tell+ ,m>k ,twa9's /ory ( ! cat & ! ,*ri/ian ,sci5ti/4 ,ru? said t j n[ %e 0 /udy+ ?is subject4 ,flor5ce ask$3 8,d y believe jelly-fi% are consci\s80 ,i rem9d$ !m ( ,cope's !ory ( consci\sness & desire z ! cause ( life1 & ( ! high] consci\sness swamp+ ! l[]4 ,!y rememb]$ x1 & 7 int]e/$4 ,virg9ia said3 8,x is l ! />s1 :i* are always !re1 b _c be se5 :5 ! sun %9es40 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8! light ( our l>g] consci\sness hides ^? less] feel+s40 ,we spoke ( o!r religions & cre$s1 & ,h5ry us$ ! t]m--ref]r+ to ,unit>ianism--8a mild =m ( ,*ri/ianity40 ,m>ian ask$ me :e!r m9e 0 an absolute belief 9 an absolute tru?4 8,because10 %e said1 8,i don't believe any "o c f9d ! absolute tru?40 8,y mu/ see10 ,i answ]$1 8t ,i believe 9 a gr[+ tru?4 ,:y else _h we call$ ourselves ,seek]s8 ,& ,i believe we w be seek]s all our lives4 ,all ,i h giv5 y is a direction40 8,i am n sure10 answ]$ %e1 8t ,i want j "o direction40 8,he :o w\ld g 9 all directions at once1 mu/ /& /ill10 ,i repli$4 8,p]haps ,i mu/10 %e said4 8,i believe only "o ?+ absolutely1 & t is t ,i am immortal4 ,& ,i don't ?9k ,i believe t j because ,i l to40 ,/ill1 :5 ,i que/ion$ h] on ! :ole self1 & progress t[>d sympa?y z ! good1 %e fully agre$4 ,%e is afraid ( accept+ too mu*4 ,?is is a l>ge tru?1 diff]5t = ea* "o1 able to include all1 gr[+1 =ev] *ang+1 & =ev] ! same1 l life itself4 ,i said3 8,we w always be ,seek]s toge!r40 ,i n[ read ,h5ry's pap]3 8,we sp5t a few m9utes 9 speak+ ( ,patriotism4 ,patriotism is loyalty to our fa!rs1 & f ?is x comes to be loyalty t[>d our c\ntry1 & !n to ! :ole _w4 ,no "o %\ld be patriotic to ! ext5t ( #8,my c\ntry "r or wrong1' nor %\ld any "o be s patriotic 9 ! cause ( humanity z a :ole z to =get 8 duty to 8 c\ntry & 8 home4 ,! patriotic man is n always ! "r man1 b ! man ) #8,firmness 9 ! "r z ,god gives him to see "r4' 8,_m p spoil _! lives1 & ev5 ^? ( o!rs1 by putt+ unimportant ?+s on a level1 or p]haps high] ?an ! really important que/ions ( _! life4 ,!re are wom5 :o try to tea* or d settlem5t "w because !y ?9k x a duty1 ev5 ?\gh !y h no ta/e or ability 9 ^? l9es1 & _! "r place is 9 _! own homes4 ,! f>m] :o comes to ! city & tries to be a bus9ess man1 w n1 z a rule1 succe$4 ,e man has "s "w at :i* he is be/1 & he %\ld f9d out :at 8 call+ is1 & !n give 8 be/ ef=ts to t4 8,to repres5t light 9 a picture1 we mu/ h %ad[s1 & )\t v>iation life w\ld be dull4 ,hobbies are v good2 & if a bus9ess man delights 9 visit+ picture gall]ies1 or baseball games1 he w be bett] (f if he gratifies ^! hobbies40 ,h5ry's pap] ar\s$ "s comm5t4 ,!y criticiz$ ,h5ry = say+ "o %\ld n be 8s patriotic 9 ! cause ( humanity z a :ole z to =get 8 duty to 8 c\ntry40 ,!y said patriotism = humanity mu/ be patriotism = "o's own l&4 ,we agre$ t 8 error 0 "o ( words r ?an ( mean+4 ,! girls teas$ him ab\t 8 op9ion on woman's :ole duty1 & accus$ him1 truly1 x seems1 ( be+ oppos$ to woman's suffrage4 ,i said ,i wi%$ x 7 n out ( our pres5t plan to argue all ^? que/ions1 b we w\ld n discuss def9ite social or political problems at all1 s9ce ! girls & boys _h nei!r ! exp]i5ce nor ! judgm5t to pr(it by !m n[4 8,d y mean10 ask$ ,m>ian1 8:e!r ! v ri* man ought to keep 8 money1 or ?r[ x out on ! /reet to ev]ybody80 8,yes--if y wi% to put x t way40 8,i am c]ta910 said ,flor5ce1 8no "o c\ld *ange my views on social que/ions40 8,no10 ,i answ]$1 8probably n4 ,b no d\bt y w (t5 *ange !m = y\rself40 8,v likely10 %e said4 ,i n[ read ,m>ian's pap]3 8,our discussion la/ week at ! club 0 on v>i\s subjects4 ,! fir/ 0 patriotism4 ,we %\ld be patriotic = our own c\ntry & ! :ole _w4 ,if we are rightly patriotic = our own c\ntry1 we w be s = ! :ole _w4 ,x is n patriotism to say ,i am = ! :ole _w1 b n = my own c\ntry4 ,?is w\ld be v inconsi/5t4 ,patriotism does n consi/ ( say+ y\r own c\ntry is always "r1 & t ano!r is wrong because x is n y\r own4 ,we also discuss$ ! "q ( *oos+ pr(essions1 & agre$ t we %\ld always *oose :at we l1 :e!r x is conv5tional or n4 ,x is bett] to be a good danc] ?an a poor tea*]4 ,9 do+ "w = o!rs1 we ought n to *oose settlem5t "w because our fri5ds are do+ x1 or because we or "s "o else ?9ks we ought to4 ,if x is "w t appeals to u1 we %\ld d x2 b1 if n1 we might g among ! "y p ( our own circle1 & help !m4 ,ano!r ?+ we spoke ( 0 bor+ & be+ bor$4 ,nev] bore any "o or all[ !m to bore y4 ,if y don't "k any?+ to say wor? :ile say+1 keep /ill4 ,if "s "o else bores y1 look at !m f "s /&po9t su* t1 if !y don't int]e/ y1 at lea/ !y make y laugh at !m4 ,if possible1 don't frequ5t ! society ( p t bore y40 ,!y ask$1 _h ,i n said x 0 wrong to laugh 8at0 p4 ,yes1 ,i answ]$1 malici\s laught] 0 bad1 z malici\s criticism 0 bad1 b !re 0 a k9dly laught]1 t laugh$ ) p1 & smil$ at _! sup]ficial weaknesses 9 a lov+ way op5ly1 z we smile at our own4 ,9 ?is way we (t5 laugh$ at1 & )1 ! p we lov$ mo/4 ,b1 ,i said1 let u nev] =get or disrespect ! self1 ! gr[+1 wond]ful self 9 e creature1 especially 9 e human be+4 ,n[ ,virg9ia & ,m>ian h _! tr\bles4 ,!y d dislike c]ta9 p1 & !y l talk+ ab\t !m4 ,virg9ia said a fool 0 a fool1 & cont9u$ to be a fool1 ev5 if y ?\ght ( him z a develop+ self4 ,m>ian object$ t ?\gh %e agre$ ) me1 %e c\ldn't live up to x4 ,i said3 8,i am n go+ to tell y :at to d1 or prea* y a s]mon4 ,only ,i want y to see ! ?+ 9 a true light4 ,i f9d x impossible to sympa?ize ) "s p1 & ,i _c help dislik+ ^? :o h done h>m to any "o ,i love4 ,b ,i look ^u x z a weakness & limitation ( myself1 :i* ,i mean to ov]come4 ,rememb] t e self y fail to und]/& is a limitation ( y\rself4 ,e judgm5t y make ( ano!r is a judgm5t ( y\rself4 ,i wi% "o c\ld say1 n3 #8,i hate t p]son1' b #8,i am "o :o hates t p]son'2 ! hate be+ a quality ( y\r own1 & reflect+ only ^u y\rself40 8,i h said ( p10 said ,virg9ia1 8t ,i did n see h[ !y c\ld h any fri5ds40 8,b !y did h fri5ds10 ,i answ]$1 8& ! limitation 0 9 y\r p[] ( see+4 ,:5 y speak ill ( a p]son1 y are def9+ y\rself40 8,x w\ld be mu* pleasant]10 said ,virg9ia1 8to ?9k x 0 a def9ition ( ! o!r p]son40 8,no d\bt10 ,i answ]$2 8d z y please1 b rememb] :at y are do+4 ,realize y\r limitation z su*1 at lea/40 ,m>ian said3 8,i w\ld l to be able to ?9k ( myself z p]fect40 8,at once1 ,m>ian1 de>8 ,!n make a little set ( rules = y\rself1 & foll[ !m1 l ! petty morali/s1 & be p]fect4 ,b we1 ( ! gr[+ tru?1 _c rea* p]fection4 ,at lea/1 we want to "k :at is good1 & /rive = x4 ,i c tell y m ?an ,i c d1 because ,i see ahead4 ,let u rememb] t ) our judgm5ts & sympa?ies we are measur+ ourselves40 ,,sixte5? ,,meet+ ,i read ,h5ry's pap]1 :i* express$ 8 po9t ( view3 8,?is meet+ 0 sp5t 9 talk+ ( ,*ri/ian ,sci5ce4 ,we agree t we are seek]s = a great tru? & complete h>mony1 :i* we call ,god4 ,we also agree 9 believ+ 9 immortality1 ?\gh we d n "k :at our exi/5ce w be l aft] t ( our pres5t /ate4 8,! diff]5ce seem$ to lie 9 our idea ( matt]1 &1 z ! belief 9 ?is is closely connect$ ) ! idea ( cure1 we did n agree on ! latt] subject4 8,i believe t matt] is ! creation ( _s2 & sci5ce tells u t no matt] ev] ceases to exi/1 ?\gh x may *ange its =m4 ,z ,i und]/& x1 ! ,*ri/ian ,sci5ti/ says t :at we call matt] is n p]man5t1 & !re=e does n exi/ at all4 ,b :5 he says x is n p]man5t1 ,i ?9k he only consid]s x z a def9ite %ape1 su* z a h\se or a table1 & he ov]looks its diff]5t =ms4 8,if ! ,*ri/ian ,sci5ti/'s idea ( matt] 7 correct1 8 idea ( cure w\ld also be correct4 ,i ?9k he says3 #8,!re is no matt]1 & !re=e1 !re c be no mat]ial suff]+4 ,consequ5tly1 all pa9 & sickness are spiritual conditions4' ,to all ^? :o believe 9 matt] z a real & p]man5t ?+1 ?is idea is impossible40 ,i said3 8,i mu/ insi/ on my ignorance on ?is subject4 ,matt] to me seems p]man5t1 a some?+ t con/antly *anges =m1 unkn[able except 9 =m2 ?us =m always seems to me ! expression ( an idea1 t is1 ( ! _s4 ,i "k matt] only ?r\gh _s or consci\sness40 ,!y all agre$4 ,n[1 ,i said1 we w\ld g on to ! next law 9 art1 & see :at its application might be4 ,did !y l1 ,i ask$1 to take up ea* law ( art 9 turn1 & see :at 0 its relation to life8 8,yes10 ,h5ry said1 8& do+ s makes ! laws 9 art mu* cle>] to me4 ,:5 y tell me _! application to life1 x helps me to und]/& _! mean+ 9 pictures40 8,t10 said ,i1 8dep5ds ^u y\r temp]am5t4 ,ano!r might f9d j ! opposite to be true1 t k ( ! laws ( art made !m cle>] 9 life40 8,yes10 said ,virg9ia1 8,i d40 8,! next law10 ,i said1 8is3 #8,art mu/ n be p>tisan4'0 8,x seems to me10 said ,m>ian1 8! application ( t to life is q cle> already40 8,:y1 h[ w\ld y expla9 x80 ,evid5tly "o mu/ take sides 9 life4 ,h[1 !n1 n be p>tisan8 ,virg9ia said3 8,ev]y?+ has two sides40 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8& ! "q is h[ to use !m bo?1 h[ to be =1 & yet n aga9/4 ,e "w ( art is = some?+2 x /&s = beauty1 ord]1 complet5ess4 ,b x is aga9/ no?+4 ,! mom5t x /&s aga9/ some?+1 x is n art4 ,l9coln's life %[s s well :at ,i mean4 ,i wond] :e!r y w und]/& h[80 ,b !y did n4 ,h5ry said x 0 because he /ood = ! ,union1 b n aga9/ slav]y1 & look$ ^u emancipation z only a side issue1 to be us$ = ! sake ( ! ,union4 ,! o!rs said /ill m uncompreh5d+ ?+s1 & s =c$ me to tell !m :at ,i meant4 ,i said ,l9coln /ood = a cause1 = an idea1 & n aga9/ any man4 ,he want$ to w9 all to 8 side1 to make 8 side ! :ole1 ! ,union4 ,be = a cause1 = a purpose1 mean some?+1 & /rive = its fulfilm5t2 b d n be aga9/ p]sons1 aga9/ p>ties4 ,aft] all1 m5 c be won only if y are also = !m1 z ,l9coln 0 also = ! ,s\!rn]s4 ,he 0 will+ to "w ) 8 political enemies = ! ,union1 s9ce he felt no enmity to m54 8,no10 said ,h5ry1 8= 8 ,secret>y ( ,/ate1 ,/anley1 0 8 political enemy40 ,! ,r$ ,cross nurses are n less at "o ) ! purpose ( _! c\ntry1 ?\gh !y nurse & t5d ) equal k9dness ! w\nd$ foe4 8,!n10 ,virg9ia w5t on1 8,dick5s is n a great arti/ 9 ^? p>ts ( 8 books :]e he becomes bitt]1 & hates ! *>act]s ( :om he writes80 8,no10 ,i answ]$1 8surely n40 8,"o feels t writ] to be mu* great]10 %e said1 8:o sympa?izes ) & und]/&s & loves ev5 8 wor/ *>act]s4 ,& ,i ?9k ,dick5s has n a good influ5ce 9 ^? books :]e he ar\ses hatr$ ( p1 & does n help ! feel+ ( sympa?y40 ,we spoke ( political re=ms--!y are q un=m$ & un9/ruct$ 9 social ?\ght--& !n w5t on to s*ool factions4 ,0 x n true t !y admir$ mo/ ! boy or girl :o work$ = a cause1 )\t bitt]ness aga9/ any p]son8 ,!y spoke ( class presid5ts & s*ool p>ties1 & discuss$ ! ?+ among !mselves4 ,ru? said t ! be/ class presid5t 0 always ! "o :o _h mo/ enemies1 = "s girls lik+ h] s mu*1 _m o!rs 7 sure to dislike h]4 ,i answ]$3 8,! p]son :o /&s = a purpose w h _m aga9/ him1 & he w n c>e4 ,b he w n be aga9/ !m4 ,& 9 ! end he w w91 z ,l9coln has won ! ,s\!rn]s4 ,!y may /ill be bitt] aga9/ ! ,nor?1 b !y jo9 ! ,nor!rn]s 9 honor+ ,l9coln1 ! man1 = !y "k he work$ = !m4 8,y may h notic$ t s f> we h spok5 ( self-developm5t & p]sonal gr[?2 & to y1 at pres5t1 t is ! mo/ important ?+4 ,b ,i want to speak a few words ( sympa?y ) ^? we d n "k1 ( our relations ) ! _w ( all m540 ,i said !y _h too little exp]i5ce to =m def9ite ideas on t trem5d\s1 complicat$ ?+ call$ society4 ,i want$ to give !m only a few ( my ideas t might come back to !m lat]1 :5 !y und]/ood m4 ,i said3 8,i want y to ?9k ( society z a big self1 z ! re/ ( y\rself1 z "o va/ :ole1 9 :i* ea* man 9 s _m my/]i\s ways affects ea* o!r man1 t none c be "r until all are "r4 ,h y ev] ?\ght ( ! relations ( p ) o!r p :om !y nev] "k1 ( all ! ?+s t are done = u by /rang]s80 8,yes10 said ,flor5ce1 8,i h ?\ght ( x1 = we once spoke ( x 9 ano!r class40 8,consid] x10 ,i w5t on1 8?is table at :i* we sit1 ! clo!s we we>1 ! food we eat1 ev]y?+1 ev]y?+ t we use1 is made = u by s _m h&s1 all relat$ to u & all affect$ by our ne$ & use ( !m4 ,h y ev] ?\ght :at ! ^w ,democracy means80 ,yes1 !y answ]$1 !y knew4 ,h5ry said x meant all p %\ld h _! rights4 ,i said x meant ev5 m4 ,did !y rememb] ! ?ree old cat*words ( ,democracy3 ,equality1 ,frat]nity---- 8,& ,lib]ty10 said ,ru?4 8,yes1 & ,lib]ty4 ,b ,i d n believe t all p are equal40 8,no10 said ,virg9ia1 8,i am q sure !y are n40 ,i w5t on3 8,democracy /&s = ?is1 t !y all h ! "r to be equal4 ,we mu/ grant ?is1 n = any altrui/ic reason1 b because we ne$ & want !m all1 because we want to miss no?+4 ,we want ea* "o to h ! "r & ! *ance to develop to be ! be/ he may be1 because t1 too1 w be be/ = u4 ,& we feel t e liv+ be+ is capable ( imm5se developm5t4 ,= !re is "o ?+ 9 u all t is equal2 :e!r x be big or little1 x is ! same 9 u all1 & t is self4 ,i feel rev]5ce & wond] = self4 ,e baby seems m>vell\s to me = ?is reason2 he is a new self4 ,& :5ev] ,i /op to ?9k1 :5 ,i am ) /rang]s1 & ) p1 no matt] h[ un9t]e/+1 ,i h ! /rong feel+ ( k9%ip & my/]y4 ,d y ev] feel s80 8,sometimes10 said ,virg9ia4 8,i feel t way 9 snat*es40 8,i nev] ?9k ab\t x10 said ,m>ian1 8b sometimes ! feel+ comes40 ,flor5ce said3 8,i feel t way ) ?+s m ?an ) p40 8,:at d y mean80 8,i mean1 = in/ance1 ) ! ocean or m\nta9s40 8,b10 ,i said1 8!re y _c "k4 ,) p x is s real & close40 ,! tr\ble is1 !y _c feel s ) ^? !y dislike or wi% to criticize2 & ?is subject comes up aga9 & aga91 ) amus+ v>iations4 ,virg9ia takes dislikes to faces2 ,flor5ce _c 8/&0 "s p :om %e greatly admires2 ,m>ian w n be depriv$ ( ! pleasure ( 8knock+0 "o p>ticul> girl4 ,f :at ,i ga!r1 _! gossip is n ( ! malici\s sort1 & ?is ov]-criticism & s5sitiv5ess is1 z ,i told !m1 a weakness & limitation ( y\?4 ,!y h n yet le>n$ to use ! good ( p = _! own good4 ,= p 9 ! /reet1 h[ev]1 !y (t5 h int5se sympa?y2 & k9dness = ! /rang]4 ,m>ian spoke aga9 ( ! ap>tm5t h\ses beh9d h] s*ool1 ) _! hundr$s ( w9d[s4 8,y w\ld l to te> _! walls away1 w\ldn't y10 ask$ ,ru?1 8to see :at is go+ on80 8,i don't "k10 said ,m>ian1 8b ,i c't help ?9k+ ( all ^? diff]5t lives 9 !re40 ,virg9ia said :5ev] h] "m saw /rang]s :o look$ z if !y lik$ h]1 %e spoke to !m4 8,t10 ,i answ]$1 8c seldom be done1 except ) *ildr52 because1 y see1 ! _w is n z we wi% x1 ?\gh x might be bett] 7 x s2 & s9ce ! o!r p]son may n und]/&1 we d>e n try to und]/& him4 ,(t5 on a sunny1 happy morn+1 :5 ,i get into a c>1 ,i feel l greet+ ! motorman1 & e p]son ,i meet4 ,b h[ c ,i8 ,!y w\ld misund]/&40 8,p]haps10 said ,virg9ia1 8t is ! motive ( ! fre% "y m5 :o sometimes try to speak to y on ! /reet40 8,!re's j ! tr\ble10 ,i answ]$1 8t x isn't _! motive1 & s x _c be ours40 ,ru? told u h[ at ! ,*ri/ian ,sci5ce *ur* t morn+ %e _h left some?+ undone :i* %e regrett$4 ,%e said3 8,!re 0 a "y man :o did n seem to "k any "o1 & he look$ lonesome & uncom=table4 ,i felt z if ,i ought to g up to him & make him welcome1 b ,i _h n ! c\rage40 8,& ,i ?9k y 7 "r10 ,i answ]$ h]1 8= he might n h und]/ood y\r motive4 ,& yet aga9 he might4 ,x is h>d to tell4 ,i am sorry to say we h (t5 to wrong p 9 ?is matt]40 ,i spoke ( ! suff]+s & ! wrongs ( society1 & ( h[ we mu/ realize t ^! are our suff]+s & our wrongs4 8,yes10 said ,m>ian1 8b :at c we d8 ,we c't d any?+40 8,!re is v little we c d1 except to be on ! "r side1 & !re=e ready to d4 ,i want to h y see ! ?+ z x is1 to be consci\s ( ! :ole1 z y\r :ole self1 s t y w act accord+ to t k40 8,don't y ?9k10 ask$ ,m>ian1 8t a great _m p act ! same way1 )\t kn[+ :y !y d x80 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8or else !y are only half consci\s1 or ?9k !y h "s o!r motive4 ,b ,i believe 9 be+ fully consci\s1 & do+ ?+s ) fre$om & f conviction40 8,i don't believe10 said ,m>ian1 8t :ile ,i act ,i ?9k ( :y ,i am act+40 8,no10 ,i answ]$1 8,i am q c]ta9 t y d n1 & t y nev] w4 ,no man ?9ks :ile he acts4 ,! ?9k+ is done long be=e4 ,& !n ! action comes ( itself4 ,if y always ?9k & feel a c]ta9 way1 ! good1 true way1 y ne$ n tr\ble ov] y\r actions4 ,!y w be "r4 ,d y suppose ! man :o gives up 8 life to save ano!r ?9ks ( :at he is do+1 & :y8 ,he is do+ :at he mu/4 ,b all 8 life long he has be5 ?9k+ 9 su* a way1 & liv+ 9 su* a way1 t no o!r action w\ld be possible40 ,i said aga9 ! quotation f ,/4 ,augu/9e3 8#8,love ,god1 & d z y please1' = if y love ! good1 :olly1 y c d only ! good4 8,rememb]10 ,i said1 8t if ! contagi\sly sick are n c>$ =1 we %all all be ill2 &1 j s1 />vation1 pov]ty1 s91 hurt ea* "o ( u1 :]ev] !y be1 & mu/ be cur$ = our own sake4 ,let u get ov] ! self-righte\s1 s5tim5tally virtu\s feel+ :i* ,i fe> *>ity has giv5 _m p4 ,= t reason ,i h always dislik$ ! ^w #8*>ity4'0 8,yes10 said ,ru?1 8s h ,i40 8,b ! virtu\s feel+ is v pleasant10 ,virg9ia said4 8,h>dly10 ,i answ]$1 8s sane & s\nd z ! pleasant feel+ ( help+ ourselves1 all toge!r40 8,! ^w #8*>ity1'0 said ,m>ian1 8comes f a ,greek ^w mean+ gratitude1 ! ^w #8*>is4'0 8,i _h always ?\ght ( x10 ,i said1 8z com+ f ! ,lat9 #8c>us1' mean+ love4 ,b t is int]e/+4 ,= gratitude is always a debt paid4 ,& s1 ,i fe>1 all our *>ity is a debt p>tly & nev] :olly paid4 ,! mo/ t a man c give1 be+ able to give1 /ill leaves him m ?an 8 %>e4 ,& t is :y ,i seldom h ! joy unta9t$1 ( :i* ,virg9ia speaks40 ,virg9ia said x made h] glad to see p happy because ( h]4 ,%e said3 8,once ?ree ( u gave a little boy a t5-c5t play?+1 & x made him s happy we felt z ?\gh we _h done some?+ f9e40 ,ru? agre$ ) me t x 0 impossible to ov]come a feel+ ( p]sonal guilt at ! sight ( mis]y4 8,y see10 ,i w5t on1 8t = ! ri* pov]ty is z bad z = ! poor4 ,drunk5ness & mis]y ask _! price ( ! ri* man40 8,yes10 said ,virg9ia1 8= to see poor & drunk5 p bo!rs ! ri* man40 8,%e is q "r10 ,i said2 8pov]ty does & mu/ bo!r ! ri* man1 & t is j :y he mu/ get rid ( x4 ,wells1 ! sociali/1 once said he d>$ n let any man be sick or poor or mis]able1 & br+ up sick1 poor1 mis]able *ildr51 = he c\ld n tell :at man's gr&*ild w\ld "o day m>ry 8 gr&*ild40 8,t is an int]e/+ way ( look+ at x10 said ,m>ian4 8,i nev] ?\ght ( t40 8,s y see10 ,i w5t on1 8we c no m praise ourselves = help+ to bett] ! _w ?an we c praise p--except = _! good s5se & wisdom--:5 !y put up hospitals = contagi\s diseases1 & sep>ate ^? :o suff] f !m4 ,did y ev] ?9k ( x1 t to take c>e ( ! weak /r5g!ns ! /rong8 ,! man :o c>es = two gets ! /r5g? ( two40 ,flor5ce ask$3 8,:at if !re 7 no weak80 ,a good "q1 b an unansw]able "o1 f lack ( exp]i5ce4 8,x is good10 ,i w5t on1 8to use our p[]s1 to /r5g!n !m2 & we c use !m only ?r\gh o!rs4 ,i h he>d p say x is fooli% = ! /rong to sp5d !mselves on ! weak4 ,to me t seems untrue40 8,yes10 said ,virg9ia1 8:at is _! /r5g? =1 if n to use x60 8,sp>ta10 ,i said1 8has left no trace b h] hi/ory1 because %e c>$ only = physical /r5g?1 & wa/$ ! /r5g? & p[] t are 9 weakness40 8,i wi% %e _h n left h] hi/ory10 !y said1 ?9k+ ( ! h>d names4 8,ev]y?+ leaves hi/ory10 sigh$ ,m>ian4 8,we c use all m510 ,i w5t on1 8& e man does some?+ = u t we _c d = ourselves4 ,! _w is l a va/ body1 9 :i* h& & head d ea* its "p2 & ! head %all n despise ! h&40 8,i don't l to ?9k ( x 9 t way10 said ,ru?1 8to ?9k ( diff]5t p z diff]5t p>ts ( ! body1 = "s w\ld h to be way d[n at ! foot40 8,oh1 ,ru?10 ,i answ]$1 8,i believe y are despis+ ! foot6 ,t is because y don't ?9k well en\gh ( ! body4 ,b ,flor5ce kn[s bett]4 ,%e probably ?9ks h] feet ! mo/ important "p ( all4 ,:5 ,i spoke ( ! body1 ,i meant t ea* "p 0 equally necess>y to all ! o!rs4 ,b ,i suppose ea* "o ( u "h w\ld l to ?9k ( himself z a bra9-cell40 8,we l to flatt] ourselves10 said ,h5ry4 ,i spoke to !m ( ! mod]n tr5d 9 judg+ crime & met+ puni%m5t4 ,h5ry already und]/ood ?is4 ,we spoke ( 8homes0 in/ead ( prisons1 ( treat+ ! bad z abortive & undevelop$1 z moral idiots & invalids1 & ( us+ = our good & _! happ9ess all ! p[]s !y possess$4 ,we w\ld hate badness1 b n ! bad man4 ,h[ c\ld we8 ,ea* "o acts accord+ to 8 desires1 & 9 t s5se selfi%ly2 & our "* dep5ds on h[ l>ge we are1 h[ mu* we desire4 ,! man :o wants to be ri*] ?an 8 neighbor w act o!rwise ?an ! man :o wants to %>e & enjoy ! ri*es & happ9ess ( all 8 neighbors1 & make ! :ole _w 8 home4 ,our desires are ! measure ( our gr[?4 ,& "s are m develop$ ?an o!rs4 8,"s are s undevelop$10 said ,virg9ia1 8t !y seem almo/ l animals40 8,i wond]$ :y ,virg9ia hadn't m5tion$ t soon]10 said ,m>ian4 ,we w5t on to ! next law1 t art mu/ give ! impression ( tru?4 ,h[ does x apply8 ,i said !y mu/ see t ! tell+ ( tru? 0 n ! :ole ( true relation4 8,& !re may be ev5 a k9d ( tru?-tell+ :i* is ess5tially untrue2 ,i mean tru? told malici\sly1 tru? told = ! purpose ( hurt+4 ,t makes an untrue relation betwe5 p1 ev5 ?\gh x be true 9 fact2 j z ! ugly picture1 truly repres5t+ an ugly ?+ 9 an ugly way1 does n seem true40 ,virg9ia said3 8,z if "o woman said to ano!r woman3 #8,i saw y\r husb& drunk la/ night1' & ! o!r woman knew x already4 ,x w\ld be q true1 b unnecess>y40 8,exactly40 ,i spoke ( ! importance ( praise & enc\ragem5t to o!rs1 & ( k9d1 true criticism4 ,at fir/ !y all prote/$ t !y did n l ov]-mu* praise4 ,no1 ,i said1 n ov]-mu*1 nor praise alone2 ,i hat$ to be 8damn$ ) fa9t praise10 b ,i lov$ praise & blame comb9$ 9 su* measure1 t ,i felt ! ?+ done 0 wor? do+1 & yet saw :]e x 0 wrong1 & h[ x might be right$4 ,i said all tea*]s ought to praise & blame 9 ?is fa%ion--nev] =gett+ ! praise4 8,!y don't h "t = x 9 s*ool10 said ,ru?4 8,ru?10 ,i answ]$ h]1 8j = a tea*] ( small *ildr51 su* enc\rag+ critical p[] is mo/ necess>y40 8,yes10 %e said1 8,i "k4 ,i mean to h x40 ,i w5t on3 8,:5 ,i criticize a *ild's draw+1 = in/ance1 & f9d six wrong l9es 9 x1 & "o "r l9e1 ,i w insi/ on ! wor? ( t "r l9e1 & %[ h[ ! o!r six c & ought to be made equally good4 ,"o c always po9t to ! wrong1 )\t hurt+1 :5 "o insi/s on ! "r40 ,& n[ we pass$ to a difficult & engross+ subject3 :at ?+s are wor? :ile 9 p]sonal social life4 ,at ?is p]iod ( life x conc]ns ! girls *iefly2 b x c\ld n be skipp$ = t reason4 ,& ! boys 7 int]e/$ li/5]s4 ,i spoke aga9 ( 8prett9ess0 9 art4 ,did !y rememb]8 ,virg9ia said1 ^? pa9t$ m]ely prettily :o tri$ to please ! cr[d = ! sake ( money or applause4 ,yes1 ,i answ]$1 !y tri$ to please ^? :o c\ld n und]/& !m or truly judge !m4 ,& s !re is a prett9ess ( mann] & life :i* appeals to ! /rang] & acqua9tance1 b does n w9 ! fri5d2 ! m]ely social prett9ess1 t has no true wor?4 ,:at did ,i mean8 ask$ ,flor5ce4 8,i mean10 ,i said1 8a mix+ ( values--giv+ up :at is wor? m1 = :at is wor? less1 &1 usually1 because we don't realize :at we are do+4 ,= in/ance1 ev] s _m w g to mu* great] tr\ble to please acqua9tances ?an fri5ds1 & ev5 ask _! fri5ds to #8let !m (f' = ! sake ( _! acqua9tances40 8,t is10 said ,flor5ce1 8because we "k our fri5ds w =give u40 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8& x is a poor reason1 = f9ally we w n h any to =give u40 8,i "k a girl10 said ,m>ian1 8:o has ev] s _m acqua9tances1 & no fri5ds40 8,:5 ,i ?9k ( society10 ,virg9ia said1 89 ! l>ge s5se ( all p1 ! only class ,i don't ?9k ( z belong+ to society1 are j ! society girls40 8,t10 ,i answ]$1 8is fooli%2 = !y d belong to x1 & c be a v important "p ( x1 if !y wi%40 ,m>ian look$ puzzl$4 8,x is all "r10 %e ask$1 8isn't x1 = girls to g into society80 8,surely10 ,i answ]$2 8n only all "r1 b v good1 if !y d x 9 ! be/ way4 ,b ,i ?9k x a t]rible wa/e = girls to d no?+ b g into society1 to live only = t1 & re/ only = t1 & c>e only = ! sup]ficial %[ ( x1 = luxury & money-sp5d+40 ,we spoke ( lun*eons & p>ties1 & all sorts ( fe/ivities :]e decoration & %[ c\nt1 & tri$ to put decoration 9 its subord9ate place4 8,p are apt10 ,i said1 8to lose ! real ?+ 9 ! glamor1 to c>e to outdo ea* o!r only 9 exp5siv5ess & %[1 in/ead ( rememb]+ t pleasant surr\nd+s are m]ely surr\nd+s4 ,l ! woman :o w\ld sp5d all h] "t on h] h\sehold1 & wa/e h]self to make x beautiful1 in/ead ( rememb]+ t its beauty c\ld c\nt only z a sett+ = h]self & h] great] "w4 ,x's a pity to wa/e good art on poor subjects40 8,"o mu/ be all-sid$10 said ,m>ian1 8y told u s4 ,i "k a girl :o did college & society & h\sekeep+ all at once40 8,& all well80 ,i ask$4 8,i ?9k s10 %e answ]$1 8?\gh ,i'm n s sure ab\t ! college "p40 8,t is j ! dang]10 ,i said1 8& a dang] ,i wi% y all to avoid4 ,i don't want "o ( y1 :5 y leave s*ool1 to deg5]ate into a frivol\s1 silly society girl4 ,y won't1 w y80 ,!y all said !y w\ldn't4 ,virg9ia & ,ru? 7 positive !y c\ldn't4 8,because10 ,i w5t on1 8_m girls d x :o seem$ s]i\s & intellig5t :ile at s*ool4 ,i w tell y :y !y d4 ,!y are apt to ?9k s*ool 9 itself s intellectual1 t !y p>ticul>ly avoid1 at o!r times1 ?9k+ s]i\sly or read+ good books or hav+ s5sible conv]sations4 ,&1 inde$1 s*ool does keep !m ?9k+1 b n ( _! own accord4 ,s1 :5 !y are graduat$1 !y /op all ?9k+1 g into society1 & wait to get m>ri$40 8,& "s wom510 said ,m>ian1 8get s un9t]e/+ aft] !y m>ry60 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8x is true1 & x is a pity4 ,naturally1 e girl expects to m>ry1 & has ! "r to expect x4 ,b if %e folds h] h&s & waits = x1 or goes out & dances & waits = x1 %e w h>dly be fit :5 ! "t comes40 8,i ?9k x is disgu/+10 said ,m>ian1 8= a girl to be #8on ! m>ket4'0 8,s d ,i10 ,i answ]$4 8,& no wond] t ^? girls1 :5 !y m>ry1 become dull & #8settl$1' & d n gr[ ) _! *ildr54 ,=1 y see1 !y 7 #8f9i%$' :5 !y left s*ool4 ,i believe t :5 a girl leaves s*ool %e %\ld g on work+ & gr[+ & le>n+ all h] life long1 :e!r %e m>ry or n40 ,virg9ia said3 8,i h le>nt s _m1 _m ?+s s9ce ,i left s*ool la/ ye>40 8,( c\rse10 !y answ]$1 8at art s*ool40 8,no10 %e said1 8,i don't mean t4 ,i le>n m out ( s*ool ?an 9 x40 8,! indep5d5t woman10 ,i said1 8:o has "s "w & aim1 :o c support h]self if ne$ be1 & :o does "s def9ite "w 9 life1 :e!r or n %e supports h]self1 w n /agnate :5 %e m>ries1 because %e has be5 gr[+ all ! "t4 ,:5 h] *ildr5 gr[ up1 %e w gr[ ) !m1 & le>n & *ange & ?9k all h] life40 8,mu/ %e d "s def9ite ?+80 ask$ ,h5ry skeptically4 ,flor5ce said3 8,i "k y ?9k1 ,h5ry1 t %e %\ld be good & help ar\nd ! h\se40 8,i ?9k10 ,i said1 8t %e mu/ h a def9ite ?+ to d 9 life1 ?\gh n necess>ily to support h]self by money-mak+4 ,%e may /udy1 if %e %\ld wi% to prep>e = m difficult "w1 or %e may h a h\sehold ( p to c>e =1 & ev5 o!r p's *ildr5 to br+ up1 j z a m>ri$ woman might40 ,good mann]s & polit5ess next engag$ our att5tion4 ,ru? is a great /ickl] = mann]s1 especially 9 boys1 & n a v good judge ( "*1 s %e has to make mu* ( evid5t1 sup]ficial *>act]i/ics4 ,m>ian1 on ! o!r h&1 is an excell5t judge ( "*4 ,m>ian ask$ me :e!r ,i ?\ght mann]s important1 & :at ,i ?\ght polit5ess meant4 ,i said good mann]s 7 ! natural expression ( k9dness1 b t "o (t5 met good p :o 7 bores1 nev]!less1 simply out ( awkw>dness2 t _m "y boys 7 s1 & ,ru? ought to tea* !m bett]4 ,we quot$ "s examples ( false good mann]s1 good simply = effect1 :i* usually 7 self-expos$ at la/4 ,i said3 8,t p ) k9d mann]s are ?\ght ! be/-br$ & f9e/1 is b ano!r sign t ! _w ( m5 goes 9 #8our' direction40 8,yes10 said ,m>ian1 8,i see h[ y mean40 ,ru? grant$ %e c>$ too mu* = good mann]s1 s9ce !y did n always mean :at !y pr(ess$ to mean4 ,to ,flor5ce !y seem$ unimportant1 9 o!rs1 z an index ( "*4 ,flor5ce said3 8,i act diff]5tly ) ea* p]son1 because ,i believe a diff]5t way w please ea* p]son40 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8we all d x unconsci\sly2 & t is :y we are z _m p z we "k40 ,%e w5t on3 8,:5 ,i am ) p :o l to be s]i\s1 ,i talk s]i\sly2 & :5 ,i am ) p :o l to fool1 :y1 !n ,i am jolly & silly40 8,b h[ ab\t y\r own ta/e & p]sonality80 ,i ask$4 8,does t c\nt80 8,:5 ,i am ) "s v prop] p10 said ,flor5ce1 8,i love to %ock !m40 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8x is a temptation4 ,b1 please1 ,flor5ce1 make ! p d :at y *oose sometimes4 ,y rememb] t y want to be l a picture1 & n only l a look+-glass40 8,i l to be ! controll+ p]son10 said ,virg9ia1 8& make p d :at ,i *oose40 ,ru? said3 8,i don't believe p are ev] _! real self ) me1 & x is v annoy+4 ,!y always try to seem bett]40 8,t is10 said ,m>ian1 8because !y "k y h su* high ideals40 8,yes10 ,ru? w5t on1 8,i suppose y tell !m4 ,& !n !y %[ me only _! good side40 8,ru?10 ,i answ]$1 8if t be true1 x ne$ n tr\ble y4 ,if y c really make p always %[ y _! good side1 y %\ld be glad to h ! p[]4 ,= p's good side is a pleasant] side to see2 & x is excell5t practice = !m to %[ x4 ,i want y ea* to be a p[] & a purpose 9 life40 ,aft]w>d ,i _h a little talk ) ,flor5ce4 ,i said3 8,i am afraid ,i 0 speak+ = y\r b5efit4 ,d y m9d80 8,no10 %e answ]$1 8b ,i am n go+ to be t sort ( society girl40 ,i walk$ homew>d ) ,virg9ia & ,h5ry4 ,virg9ia told me t ! club made h] ?9k1 t ?+s we said came back to h] weeks & weeks aft]w>d1 & gave new mean+s to life4 ,next week we are go+ to h ! la/ meet+4 ,h5ry ask$ me :e!r we 7 go+ to speak ( 8,alo(ness40 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8& x w include all we h said until n[40 ,,sev5te5? ,,meet+ ,i read ,h5ry's pap]3 8,we %\ld n be p>tisan4 ,d n fight aga9/ any "o z an enemy1 b z a fri5d :o tries to help ano!r1 by ?w>t+ 8 wrong purpose4 8,aga9 we c g to ,l9coln = an example4 ,:5 he 0 presid5t1 ,l9coln s5t to 8 great political enemy1 ,d\glas1 & ask$ = 8 aid 9 ! approa*+ /ruggle4 ,aga91 :5 ! w> 0 almo/ ov]1 & ^? ab\t him said t ! ,s\!rn lead]s w\ld h to be sev]ely dealt )1 he told !m t ?\gh he c\ld n avoid ! hat$ w>1 n[ t _! end _h be5 ga9$1 he want$ peace1 & bore no malice t[>d 8 ,s\!rn c\ntrym51 :om he w\ld deal ) z l5i5tly z possible40 ,!n ,i read ,m>ian's pap]3 8,at our la/ meet+ ( ! ,seek]s we took up ! application ( ! two next-to-!-la/ pr9ciples ( ,art to life4 ,! fir/1 #8d n be p>tisan1' we und]/ood easily4 ,b h[ to /& = a cause )\t be+ p>tisan1 is m difficult to und]/&4 ,by ?is we mean be+ = a cause b n aga9/ ano!r1 & be+ broad-m9d$ en\gh to und]/& ! o!r side4 ,9 do+ ?is all p]sonal attacks are1 ( c\rse1 elim9at$4 ,! next pr9ciple1 t art gives ! impression ( tru?1 :5 appli$ to life means be+1 fir/1 tru?-tell+4 ,h[ev]1 if by tell+ ! tru? we unnecess>ily w\nd a p]son1 we _h bett] say no?+4 ,to tell ! tru? = ! purpose ( hurt+ "s "o is almo/ z bad z tell+ a lie40 ,i said ,i ?\ght x 0 almo/ worse4 ,i ask$ :y _h ,h5ry & ,m>ian bo? left out an important "p ( our la/ meet+1 ! "p on our l>g] social relations8 ,_h we n made x impressive en\gh8 ,= a mom5t !y all 7 puzzl$4 ,0 x at ! la/ meet+ we _h spok5 ( t8 ,:5 ,i rem9d$ !m ( :at _h be5 said1 !y rememb]$4 ,b ,h5ry add$3 8,i did n ?9k we said x at ! la/ meet+4 ,x seem$ long] ago4 ,p]haps because t is some?+ we h spok5 ( at all ! meet+s1 "r along40 ,i said ,i ?\ght all b ,alfr$ & ,ru? 7 n greatly int]e/$ 9 l>g] social que/ions4 ,_! family & s*ool life 7 m absorb+4 ,i said3 8,i "k ,alfr$ is int]e/$ 9 social & political problems1 because he has told me s4 ,y see1 ev5 ?\gh he won't talk to y1 he does sometimes talk to me40 ,alfr$ blu%$4 ,he answ]$3 8,i c>e m ab\t ^? outside relations ?an any?+ else40 ,m>ian said3 8,i am int]e/$1 too4 ,b la/ "t1 j 9 ! mid/1 we got (f to ! subject ( #8knock+' p4 ,& s ,i don't ?9k we q f9i%$40 8,p]haps10 ,i ask$1 8we _h bett] g ov] x aga9 to-day8 ,& yet ,i ?9k n4 ,y d seem to und]/&4 ,i don't ?9k y c =m y\r social & political op9ions n[1 & ,i don't c>e to talk mu* ( ^! ?+s4 ,y see1 ! boys /ill h five ye>s be=e !y ne$ to vote4 ,& = ! girls1 ,i imag9e x may be ev5 long]40 8,i don't "k10 said ,ru?1 8,i don't ?9k x w be mu* long]40 8,b10 ,i w5t on1 8we spoke ( o!r ?+s1 too4 ,didn't we speak a great deal ( woman's life80 8,y mean *oos+ pr(essions1 & society1 & s on80 ask$ ,m>ian4 8,yes40 8,x is /range1 too10 said %e1 8t ,i =got to write ab\t x4 ,= x impress$ me v mu*1 & ,i 0 talk+ ( x only ! o!r day1 :5 "s girls 7 at ! h\se40 8,n[10 ,i said1 8we w speak ( t /range ?+1 alo(ness1 ! spectator's po9t ( view1 t a :ile ago y c\ld n und]/&4 ,& ,i ?9k to-day y w und]/& at once1 = x is ! sum & complet5ess ( all we h said4 ,d y ?9k y "k n[ :at ,i mean by alo(ness8 ,:at d y ?9k1 ,h5ry80 8,i ?9k x means10 he said1 8und]/&+ ) sympa?y all ! p ab\t y1 & ! outsid]s40 8,yes10 ,i said2 8b x means m ?an t40 ,alfr$ look$ z if he knew4 8,well1 ,alfr$80 8,doesn't x mean10 he ask$1 8be+ able to criticize & judge y\rself80 8,yes10 ,i said4 8,t is ne>]2 x means bo?1 & m ?an bo?4 ,x means be+ n only 9 y\rself1 b above & ar\nd1 judg+ all ?+s z if y 7 all ! p1 f ! po9t ( view ( ! :ole _w4 ,y "k :at we mean :5 we say ,god4 ,we mean t :ole1 ! :ole ,self4 ,x means see+ life f ,god's po9t ( view4 ,x is z if we 7 spectator & also actor2 do+ our own little "p 9 our own little lives1 & yet see+ ! :ole1 & c>+ mo/ = t :ole1 & act+ our "p 9 relation to x1 to please ! va/ spectator4 ,h y n y\rselves _h t exp]i5ce8 ,h y n1 ev5 9 excit+ mom5ts1 sudd5ly felt z if y 7 outside y\rself1 look+ on at y\rself1 & judg+80 8,yes10 said ,m>ian1 8,i (t5 d4 ,sometimes ,i laugh at myself4 ,i see h[ fooli% ,i am1 b ,i g "r on4 ,= ! actor & ! spectator d n always agree40 ,i said3 8,all goodness & p[] 9 life spr+ f mak+ ! actor & spectator agree1 mak+ ! l>g] self include & manage ! small] self1 & move x z a play] moves a pawn4 ,=1 rememb]1 x is n two sep>ate selves1 b "o self1 a va/ s5se ( all life1 inclusive ( ?is small] self :i* we control4 ,d y n realize t all h]oism1 all great & noble action is done s1 9 ! _s ( ! :ole1 = ! va/ spectator )9 u8 ,:5 a man dies = a cause1 he is t cause1 he is f> m ?an 8 own small self1 & he gladly dies = t :i* includes & fulfils him4 ,:5 a man gives up 8 life to save ano!r man1 he sees ! :ole ?+ z f above4 ,he & ! o!r man are "o1 are "p ( ! same life1 & he sp5ds himself = himself4 8,fe>10 ,i said1 8c[>dice1 loss ( self-control 9 crises1 always comes :5 ! actor =gets ! spectator1 :5 ! spectator loses control4 8,if ev] y h be5 9 any excit+ crisis1 & kept cool & above fe>1 !n y w "k :at ,i mean2 h[ y ?9k ( ! :ole1 ( all ! p1 & seem to be & control ! :ole40 ,ru? said %e knew "o nev] ?\ght especially ( "o's self at su* a "t4 ,exp]i5ces1 h[ev]1 7 sc>ce4 ,virg9ia spoke ( ! "t %e 0 ) me 9 a burn+ trolley c>1 & h[ %e _h be5 int]e/$ r ?an excit$4 ,b !n %e 0 a v1 v little girl4 ,ru? said %e didn't rememb] h[ %e felt :5 %e 0 almo/ run d[n by an automobile4 ,m>ian ask$3 8,"o is n always consci\s ( ! spectator80 8,no10 ,i answ]$1 8"o is consci\s ( him only at r>e mom5ts4 ,= x is ! actor :o acts & lives1 & ! spectator controls him4 ,! spectator is (t5e/ sil5t4 ,he wat*es4 ,& he mu/ *oose40 8,b is ! spectator always sure80 ask$ ,m>ian4 8,sometimes y _c tell :at seems to y be/1 until y talk x ov] ) o!rs40 8,! spectator10 ,i said1 8judges & *ooses accord+ to all he c "k4 ,surely1 he *ooses 9 relation ) o!rs4 ,he c use all exp]i5ce2 he goes ev5 beyond 8 sorr[ & pa94 ,d y und]/&8 ,he goes beyond sorr[ & pa91 & uses !m4 ,d y rememb] ,i spoke to y once ( all ?+s be+ a memory1 ( ! body itself be+ a memory8 ,! basis ( all sympa?y is exp]i5ce & memory4 ,s ! spectator gr[s & uses ev]y?+4 ,he is1 z x 71 9 p>tn]%ip ) ! :ole1 ) ,god4 ,& he rises on 8 own k4 ,! high] he goes1 ! f>!r c he see4 ,d y und]/& t alo(ness1 ! judg+ f ! /&po9t ( ! :ole1 ( ! :ole self1 is ! basis ( morality8 ,x is ! "p judg+ & liv+ = ! :ole4 ,^? :o "k ?is make ! laws = all1 accord+ to _! k2 & ! o!rs1 :o are only actors1 ^: spectator is n wide awake1 h to obey40 ,at fir/ !y prote/$4 ,0 ?is true8 ,!y did n und]/&4 ,h5ry ask$ did ,i mean mak+ laws to control an>*i/s8 ,i expla9$ h[ "s _h to be =c$ to con=m1 ev5 = _! own good1 & h[ ! o!rs 7 free1 because ! law t 0 good = all1 !y knew to be be/ = !mselves4 ,i said3 8,my own limit$ p]sonal life is my weapon & means1 ! only weapon & means ,i h to come to complet5ess4 ,i w always rememb] t x is a means1 some?+ to use2 b x is my only means1 & = t reason x is important & preci\s to me above all else40 8,y mean10 said ,virg9ia1 8t y don't want to dream away y\r life1 l ! ascetics ( ! middle ages1 :o dream$ ( ! :ole1 b didn't d _! "p80 8,yes10 ,i said1 8exactly4 ,x is z if we 7 all wat*+ a va/ *essbo>d1 all toge!r int]e/$ 9 ! game1 b ea* able to control only "o pawn1 & yet anxi\s to play 9 su* a way z to w9 ! game along ) ! o!rs1 ea* = ! sake ( ! :ole4 ,& t pawn is our own life2 ! only p[] we h40 8,ar5't we ourselves ! pawns80 ask$ ,m>ian4 8,no10 said ,h5ry2 8!n we c\ldn't manage !m40 8,we are bo? pawn & play]10 ,i said2 8= if we 7 only ! pawn1 9 ! cr[d ( little play]s1 we c\ld n see ahead1 & w\ld g bl9dly =w>d )\t aim4 ,"o mu/ be above ! bo>d to see x40 ,& n[ ,i ask$3 8,%all we look once m ov] all we h said 9 ^! few mon?s80 ,!y answ]$ t x seem$ to !m ?is la/ meet+ _h be5 a review4 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8alo(ness1 :i* a :ile ago y c\ld n und]/&1 is n[ :olly cle> to y2 & m ?an t1 x includes all we h said40 8,x doesn't include x all10 said ,h5ry1 8b x f9i%es & r\nds x out40 8,& our little club is f9i%$10 ,i ask$1 8arti/ically f9i%$80 8,yes10 !y said4 8,i h notic$ t sometimes "s ( y call x #8class4' ,is x a class8 ,is x n r a club2 h we n all gone =w>d toge!r80 ,ru? answ]$3 8,x is ea* or bo?4 ,sometimes we speak ( x z class1 or club1 or lesson40 8,surely x is a lesson10 said ,h5ry1 8because we h le>n$ some?+ f x4 ,:atev] y le>n f is a lesson40 ,well1 aft] all1 ,i suppose ,i h giv5 !m my ?\ght2 & t is :at ,i mu/ h meant to d4 ,i ask$ !m :at practical result ! ideas _h _h ^u _! lives4 8,d y mean 9 action80 ask$ ,m>ian4 8,i nev] /op to ?9k ( x :5 ,i act1 b ,i f9d t ,i ref] my ?\ghts aga9 & aga9 to ?is /&>d1 :5 ,i don't mean to1 or expect to40 8,x is a habit ( ?\ght10 ,i answ]$1 8& our habits ( ?\ght unconsci\sly make our actions40 8,yes10 said ,virg9ia1 8?+s t happ5 are always br++ to m9d ! ?+s we speak ( "h40 8,b we h n yet rea*$ an absolute1 /iff conclusion1 h we80 insi/$ ,m>ian4 8,no10 ,i answ]$2 8we are go+ to be seek]s all our lives--are we n8--comrades 9 ! se>* = light80 8,surely10 !y said4 8,&10 ,i w5t on1 8,i want some?+ m ( y4 ,i h notic$ t y all are v %y ab\t talk+ ( ! club to outsid]s4 ,b x seems to me t x is wor? :ile tell+ y\r ?\ght & y\r tru?1 t y mu/ n only seek1 b %>e :at y f9d40 8,y mean10 said ,virg9ia1 8t we %\ld try to get conv]ts1 l ! ,ca?olics80 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8conv]ts to seek+40 8,x is v h>d10 ,ru? said1 8to talk to outsid]s ( ^! ?+s4 ,i c tell my "m4 ,%e und]/&s4 ,b we h made a language ( our own at ! club1 & o!r p don't und]/& x4 ,:5 ,i beg9 to tell !m1 !y ask3 #8,:at sort ( language are y us+8'0 8,t is a pity10 ,i answ]$1 8& yet we c\ld h>dly help x4 ,p]haps we %\ld h tri$ to use o!r words40 8,no10 said ,ru?1 8,i ?9k x is a v beautiful language1 & we mu/ use x4 ,b x makes x h>d to tell o!rs40 8,p don't want to und]/&10 said ,h5ry4 8,:5 y beg9 to tell !m :at x is ab\t1 !y make up _! m9ds !y won't und]/& su* ?+s4 ,!y set out ) t idea40 ,m>ian said3 8,i (t5 speak ( c]ta9 ?+s we discuss$1 j z ! o!r day ,i 0 speak+ ( wom5's pr(essions & social life4 ,b x is impossible to tell ! :ole idea4 ,"o w\ld h to beg9 at ! beg9n+40 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8x w\ld be a :ole c\rse4 ,s y h to cont5t y\rself ) tell+ ! uness5tial p>ts4 ,b ,i hope t y w absorb ?is idea into y\r life & y\r actions1 & !n f9d new words 9 :i* to tell ! same tru? almo/ unconsci\sly1 words t w be made cle> to all ?r\gh y\r own exp]i5ce4 8,we see cle>ly h[ ea* "o ( u w draw /r5g? & judgm5t f 8 limitless :ole self4 ,& ! k ( our greate/ desire w make u tea* our less] desires to foll[ x1 w make u %ape & use ! :ole ( our life = ! ?+ we want & love4 8,& n[ ,i wi% to ask y ea* a "q4 ,:at p>ticul> ?+ or p[] seems mo/ de> & necess>y to y 9 y\r own life1 9 ord] to fulfil y\r aim4 ,alfr$1 tell me4 ,d y "k8 ,or d y want "t to ?9k ( x80 8,:at ,i want mo/10 said ,alfr$1 8is ! p[] to calculate & judge h[ ?+s are go+ to turn out4 ,to plan well40 8,:at ,i want mo/10 said ,m>ian1 8is to be ! sort ( girl ,i wi% to be4 ,to be l my idea ( myself40 8,:at ,i want mo/10 said ,virg9ia1 8is to h fun1 to be happy40 8,:at does t mean80 ask$ ,h5ry4 8,happ9ess1 = ea* "o ( u1 is hav+ :at we want mo/40 8,well10 said ,virg9ia1 8,i l life to be pleasant = me & = all ! p ab\t me40 8,:at ,i want mo/10 said ,flor5ce1 8is to be lov$40 8,only to be lov$1 or to love1 too80 8,to be lov$ & to love40 ,ru? said3 8,t is :at ,i want mo/1 too40 ,h5ry said3 8,i agree ) !m40 ,!y all seem$ to wi% !y _h said x4 ,virg9ia add$3 8,if y are happy1 y are lov$40 8,lately10 said ,i1 8?is la/ week1 a lead] ( clubs told me he _h ask$ ?is same "q ( a club ( boys4 ,i want$ to see :at y w\ld answ]40 8,:at did !y answ]80 8,!y1 all b "o1 answ]$ #8,money4' ,! "o said he wi%$ to make beautiful ?+s40 8,t is a f9e answ]10 ,virg9ia said4 8,i'm sure ,i w\ld l him40 8,i "k10 said ,h5ry1 8a great _m boys feel t way4 ,i happ5 to "k ( t club4 ,"o ( ^? boys said to me lately1 :at he want$ mo/ 0 to h lots ( money1 s he c\ld enjoy himself4 ,b ,i ?9k aft] he _h ! money1 he w\ld n f9d ! enjoym5t satisfy+40 8,( c\rse10 ,i answ]$1 8money is necess>y to life2 t is1 ! means ( life are necess>y to life40 8,b "o c e>n ^?10 said !y4 ,m>ian said3 8,if ,i 7 z /rong1 capable & good z ,i w\ld l1 & j ! sort ( p]son ,i mean to be1 x w\ld be easy to e>n money40 ,ru? said3 8,if "o is lov$ & loves _m p1 "o is sure to f9d "s way ( gett+ en\gh money to live4 ,i don't mean t p w ?ru/ x on y1 b y are sure to f9d ! way to get :atev] y ne$40 ,i said3 8,money is only1 z x 71 a c]tificate ( p[]2 = s mu* "w1 y are giv5 ! means to g on work+ & liv+4 ,b ! great problem is to make ! "w itself wor? m to u ?an ! paym5t4 ,& ,i am afraid ) mo/ p x is n s4 ,money is a means = "w1 = life1 = fulfilm5t4 ,if ?+s 7 prop]ly adju/$1 & society p]fect1 ea* man w\ld "w = 8 livelihood at ! "w :i* he lov$ mo/ to d40 ,virg9ia said3 8,i w\ld r be a paup] ?an n be an arti/40 ,i answ]$3 8,i hope ea* "o ( y w f9d ! means to d ! "w y love1 & make x y\r livelihood4 ,= t is ! only way to ju/ify bo? "w & wage40 ,!n ,i said3 8,be=e we "p & plan to meet aga91 ,i am go+ to tell y some?+ v excit+4 ,i am almo/ afraid to say x40 8,:at is x8 ,tell u1 quick40 8,d y rememb]1 ,i told y ,i 0 keep+ m9utes ( ! club80 8,yes1 t is :y y want$ our pap]s40 8,well1 !y are n ord9>y m9utes4 ,!y are an exact acc\nt ( all we h done & said40 ,& !n ,i told !m ( ?is book4 ,!y 7 delight$4 8,we are all go+ to be put into a book10 !y said4 8,yes10 ,i answ]$1 8x w be a book1 & y are all to be 9 x4 ,b :o kn[s :e!r any "o else w c>e8 ,p]haps x w nev] be publi%$40 8,ev5 if x isn't publi%$10 said ,h5ry1 8x w be a book40 8,:at w x be call$80 !y ask$4 8#8,! ,seek]s1' ( c\rse40 8,y ought to call x #8,! ,pa?f9d]1'0 said ,h5ry4 8,t w\ld s\nd m romantic & int]e/+1 & attract p40 ,w\ld ,i d$icate x to !m8 !y ask$4 8,no1 c]ta9ly n10 ,i said2 8y are all help+ me write x4 ,we w d$icate x to all ,seek]s40 ,:at names w\ld ,i use8 !y ask$4 ,i w\ld use _! "r fir/ names1 ,i said4 ,w]5't !y will+8 ,yes1 yes1 !y 7 will+4 8,=10 ,i said1 8"o c\ld sc>cely make up pretti] names3 ,i l !m all1 ,m>ian1 ,ru?1 ,flor5ce1 ,virg9ia1 ,h5ry & ,alfr$40 8,yes10 answ]$ ,m>ian1 8we l our own names40 8,& y h really help$ me to write x10 ,i said1 8= ,i h all y\r pap]s4 ,t's :y ,i want$ !m1 to prove t ,i 0 n inv5t+ ! :ole ?+40 8,are y putt+ !m 9 j z we wrote !m80 ask$ ,m>ian4 8,yes1 exactly40 8,oh1 please10 %e begg$1 8correct my spell+ & my bad con/ruction40 8,i w correct y\r spell+ & y\r punctuation1 b no?+ else40 8,oh1 please10 %e said1 8*ange ! places :]e ,i repeat$ myself4 ,i wrote !m s ha/ily40 8,i suppose10 ,i said1 8t :at 0 good en\gh = me w be good en\gh = any "o4 ,don't y ?9k s8 ,i always want$ to write a book l ?is1 & z ,i didn't h bra9s en\gh to inv5t x alone1 ,i made y help me4 ,x is a real live book4 ,we h liv$ x toge!r40 ,n[ !y ask$ me cr[ds ( que/ions4 ,_h ,i put 9 all ! nons5se8 ,yes1 e bit4 8,!n we w laugh at ourselves10 said ,m>ian4 ,_h ,i put 9 e "t ,virg9ia m5tion$ animals8 ,yes1 almo/ e "t4 ,x mu/ be v int]e/+1 !y said4 8,did y write d[n e "t we laugh$80 ,no1 ,i took t = grant$4 ,& did ,i write d[n :5 ,flor5ce said bro!r ,ar?ur told h] ?+s8 ,yes4 ,& w\ld ,i leave t 98 ,c]ta9ly4 ,& w\ld ,i let !m see x8 ,yes1 z soon z possible4 ,,app5dix ,! notes us$ by ! lead] at ea* meet+1 & slightly remodel$ aft]w>d1 z exp]i5ce %[$ !m to be faulty1 are "h pres5t$1 9 ! hope t !y may be ( use 9 "s o!r club4 ,c]ta9 clubs h be5 =m$ by "s ( ! orig9al ,seek]s1 9 :i* ! text ( ! book itself is be+ read al\d & discuss$4 ,b 7 an old] p]son lead+ ! club--& t is always to be desir$--he might f9d x f> m /imulat+ & fruitful to conduct ! meet+s by direct+ ! conv]sation along ! l9e ( ^! notes4 ,no d\bt if he made ?is use ( my exp]i5ce1 he w\ld1 by add+ 8 own1 give new value to ! outcome4 ,,notes ,,fir/ ,,meet+ ,:y ,are ,our ,religions ,unsatisfy+1 & ,:at ,%all ,we ,d8 ,i4 ,,conditions ,,to-,,day3 a4 ,religions de/roy religion4 ,if y are wrong1 ,i might be wrong4 b4 ,m5 cl+ to traditional1 half-consci\s belief1 or build up an e?ic or agno/ic fai?1 because man mu/ live by fai?4 ,,ii4 ,,hi/oric ,,reasons ,,= ,,pres5t ,,conditions3 a4 ,initiat$ & popul> religion 9 hi/ory3 #a4 ,india2 ca/es & ! ,brahmans4 #b4 ,egypt2 secret prie/hood1 annex$ beliefs1 & int]pretations ( my?s4 #c4 ,greece2 ,rome2 e>ly ,ca?olicism2 ! prie/s4 b4 ,analysis ( initiat$ & popul> belief3 #a4 ,my?s ( ,orpheus2 ( ,moses & ! ,burn+ ,bu%2 ( ! div9e p>5tage ( ,jesus4 #b4 ,! initiat$ is ! religion ( poetry & prophecy1 ( symbols4 ,^!1 tak5 lit]ally by ! p1 become a religion ( idols & prose4 ,"o is a mov+ _s1 ! o!r a grav5 image4 ,words c be idols4 c4 ,! mod]n tr5d3 #a4 ,democratic _s 7s9ce ,re=mation7 de/roys initiat$ religion1 keeps popul> religion4 #b4 ,sci5ce de/roys popul> my?s4 ,,iii4 ,,:at ,,mu/ ,,we ,,d ,,to-,,day8 a4 ,sci5tific k de/roys popul> my?s1 b does n replace religion3 #a4 ,e sci5ti/ has a philosophy or fai?4 #b4 ,sci5ce fo/]s new popul> delusions1 built on its lit]al facts1 su* z a!ism & sci5tific sup]/itions ( half-k4 b4 ,!re is absolute religi\s k3 #a4 ,its record 9 hi/ory3 ,moses1 ,jesus1 etc4 #b4 ,its te/imony 9 our own selves3 7,:at d we "k87 c4 ,9 a democracy e "o mu/ atta9 ?is k2 ea* mu/ be initiat$2 e man %all be a prophet4 ,,iv4 ,,:at ,,does ,,ea* ,,"o ,,believe ,,conc]n+ ,,god8 7,"q = next week47 ,,second ,,meet+ ,god1 & ! ,mean+ ( ,progress ,i4 ,,! ,,idea ,,( ,,god ,a ,,p]sonal ,,conviction3 a4 ,a realization to be a*iev$1 b1 aft] t1 sil5ce on ! subject4 ,sacr$ness ( ! ^w4 b4 ,memb]s' individual ideas ( ,god4 c4 ,my idea /at$3 #a4 ,god z ,self 7read f ,v$as71 z ! completion ( myself4 8,i am t ,i am40 #b4 ,! aspiration t[>d complete sympa?y1 consci\sness 7selfhood7 z ! aspiration ( ,god1 & ! aim ( progress4 #c4 ,! idea ( 8hol9ess0 mean+ 8:ol5ess40 ,,ii4 ,,hi/oric ,,ideas ,,( ,,god3 a4 ,! inn] mean+ ( poly!ism3 _m aspects ( "o ,god4 b4 ,! inn] mean+ ( tr9ity3 ! ?ree z "o1 z ! contra/ ( life1 & its unity4 ,a true p>adox4 ,myself1 ! o!r ,self1 & love1 ! holy _s4 c4 ,! inn] mean+ ( dualism3 ! two are two sides ( "o ?+1 ! negative & ! positive4 ,light makes d>kness4 d4 ,p]sonal1 p>5tal1 & all o!r ideas ( ,god are includ$ 9 our l>g] view4 ,! unity embraces all ideas & div]sities4 ,,iii4 ,,progress ,,z ,,! ,,tr5d ,,t[>d ,,complete ,,self3 a4 ,?r\gh\t hi/ory ! only progress has be5 t[>d great] und]/&+ & bro!rhood3 #a4 ,! value ( railroads1 telephones1 etc4 b4 ,! good is :atev] leads t[>d und]/&+1 sympa?y1 :ol5ess4 c4 ,! bad is :atev] does n lead ?i!r3 #a4 ,! bad is :at 0 once good1 & has be5 pass$4 #b4 ,or sometimes x is ! necess>y result ( an exp]im5tal progress4 #c4 ,?+s are n 8good0 & 8bad10 b bett] & worse4 ,!re=e evil itself is pro( ( progress4 d4 ,! w t[>d good is 9 ! _w & ourselves4 #a4 ,dissatisfaction is ! w t[>d progress4 #b4 ,we use all bad ?+s = ! great good t we love4 7,?is meet+ might be divid$ into two1 "o on ,,god1 & "o on ,,progress47 ,,?ird ,,meet+ ,matt] & ,_s ,i4 ,,%ort ,,review3 a4 ,:at is ! aim ( life8 b4 ,h[ d y expla9 good & bad8 ,,ii4 ,,are ,,matt] ,,& ,,_s ,,antagoni/ic1 ,,or ,,l ,,good ,,& ,,bad1 ,,to ,,be ,,expla9$ ,,?r\gh ,,ea* ,,o!r8 a4 ,all matt] has %ape or idea3 #a4 ,matt] takes ! %ape ( _s4 #b4 ,we "k only ! _s1 or idea1 because all ?+s come to u ?r\gh our s5ses4 #c4 ,pure matt]1 if x exi/1 is a ?+ we _c exp]i5ce4 ,,iii4 ,,matt] ,,is ,,! ,,m$ium ,,?r\gh ,,:i* ,,_s ,,expresses ,,itself3 a4 ,expression is ! means = rea*+ und]/&+4 b4 ,all expression1 at pres5t1 is ?r\gh s-call$ mat]ial means4 ,,iv4 ,,_s ,,c ,,d ,,all ,,?+s ,,9 ,,! ,,future3 a4 8,immovable0 physical conditions are ! result ( w or _s 9 ! pa/4 #a4 ,our ance/ors4 #b4 ,! m5tal beg9n+s ( all physical ills4 b4 ,_s =ce is ! only %ap+ =ce 9 a univ]se ( _s or w4 #a4 ,"o c1 !re=e1 control ! physical4 #b4 ,"o c %ape "o's de/9y4 ,,f\r? ,,meet+ ,evolution ,i4 ,,! ,,place ,,( ,,evolution ,,9 ,a ,,religi\s ,,enquiry3 a4 ,we mu/ believe 9 t1 or 9 special creation4 #a4 ,e religion has a !ory ( creation4 #b4 ,evolution is a !ory ( creation4 b4 ,x may ?r[ light on ! means ( progress4 ,,ii4 ,,evolution ,,means ,,desc5t ,,( ,,all ,,creatures ,,f ,a ,,common ,,"o-,,cell$ ,,ance/ral ,,=m3 a4 ,physical pro( ( ! !ory3 #a4 ,9 lik5ess ( /ructure4 #b4 ,9 rudim5t>y organs4 #c4 ,9 geological records4 #d4 ,9 ! ,law ( ,recapitulation4 ,,iii4 ,,!ories ,,( ,,! ,,process ,,( ,,evolution3 a4 ,natural ,selection3 #a4 ,v>iations 9 all directions1 & adaptation4 #b4 ,adaptation a /ruggle = life4 4 ,= place4 4 ,= food4 4 ,= protection1 ?r\gh imitative color or =m4 #c4 ,! value ( artificial selection z p>tly %[+ u ! processes ( natural selection4 #d4 ,:at natural selection fails to expla94 b4 ,! !ory ( ,sexual ,selection1 & its %ortcom+s4 c4 ,! auxili>y !ory ( ,isolation4 ,,iv4 ,,! ,,philosophical ,,significance ,,( ,,evolution3 a4 ,evolution a self-evolv+ ( uncreat$ life4 #a4 ,wi%1 desire1 love cause all *ange & creation4 #b4 ,progress is f )91 ( our own w4 #c4 ,*ange or re-bir? necessitates dea?4 4 ,dea? makes room = "y4 4 ,we die = ! sake ( life4 b4 ,evolution & ! aim ( life3 #a4 ,fitness & h>mony ! te/ ( life4 #b4 ,x goes f lik5ess to unlik5ess & recognition4 #c4 ,pa91 disease1 dea? & *ang+ /&>ds ( good & bad are ! pa? ( progress t[>d :ol5ess & und]/&+4 c4 ,evolution ! simple/1 cle>e/ pro( ( relation%ip4 ,note4--,= ref]5ce & illu/rations1 ! fir/ volume ( ,romanes' 8,d>w9 & ,aft] ,d>w90 is m conv5i5t to use & %[ ?an ,d>w9's own works4 ,,fif? ,,meet+ ,pray] ,i4 ,a ,,communion1 ,,n ,a ,,begg+3 a4 ,9 a _w t goes t[>d its own desire--:i* is also ours--x is folly to ask "o's va/ ,self = any?+4 b4 ,pray] is a mom5t>y consci\sness ( ! va/ ,self :i* is ,god4 ,,ii4 ,,! ,,value ,,( ,,pray]3 a4 ,to be consci\s1 by an ef=t1 ( ! va/ on5ess1 gives u r5ew$ calmness & /r5g?4 b4 ,to pray = :at we c be is to call =? ! p[] to be x4 c4 ,pray] puts u 9 a /ate ( m9d 9 :i* we draw ^u ! endless s\rce ( p[] & possibility3 #a4 ,! value1 !re=e1 ( pray] be=e sleep4 ,,iii4 ,,! ,,mann] ,,( ,,pray]3 a4 ,by consci\s words t give ! communion4 b4 ,by an occasional /ate ( m9d4 c4 ,by e creative action4 d4 ,by ! :ole attitude ( our life4 ,,six? ,,meet+ ,immortality ,i4 ,,importance ,,to ,,u ,,( ,,an ,,op9ion ,,conc]n+ ,,dea? ,,& ,,immortality3 a4 ,we "k we mu/ die soon3 #a4 ,speak ( ! numb]less g5]ations ( life4 b4 ,we live accord+ to our expectations3 #a4 ,relation ?r\gh\t hi/ory ( beliefs conc]n+ immortality & ( ! morality ( peoples4 #b4 ,good & bad effects ( belief 9 heav5 & hell4 ,,ii4 ,,k ,,conc]n+ ,,immortality3 a4 ,:at is ,k8 #a4 ,! relativity ( all k4 #b4 ,k ?r\gh conviction loses =ce :5 !re is disagreem5t4 #c4 ,k ?r\gh analogy is l circum/antial evid5ce4 b4 ,we "k3 #a4 ,t matt] & =ce d n die4 4 ,we "k ( no?+ t is positively mortal4 #b4 ,t life works 9 a c]ta9 direction4 #c4 ,t dea? & re-bir? are ! means ( mov+ 9 t direction1 i4e41 ( progress4 #d4 ,t ?is progress is ( ! _s or self4 #e4 ,t we are =ev] a "p ( ! _w1 relat$ to ! :ole4 #f4 ,z we "k no?+ b consci\sness or self1 we believe x mu/ be immortal1 ?\gh we h no pro(4 ,,iii4 ,,! ,,!ory ,,( ,,race-,,immortality ,,z ,,an ,,ideal3 a4 ,x is m improbable ?an self-immortality4 #a4 ,all planets die4 #b4 ,! la/ g5]ation1 dies1 too4 b4 ,x is n true immortality3 #a4 ,! ?+ we _c transmit is ! ,self :i* loves & seeks4 ,,iv4 ,,memory ,,& ,,p]sonality3 a4 ,admission ( ignorance & indiff]5ce4 ,:y8 #a4 ,ev]y?+ is a memory & a prophecy1 s9ce ev]y?+ exi/s =ev]1 & advances4 #b4 ,! body is a memory4 #c4 ,memory mu/ cont9ue at lea/ 9 its results on ! self1 if n m def9itely4 b4 ,love & ,meet+3 #a4 ,love may h o!r satisfactions ?an we dream (4 #b4 ,we are all "o1 & _c be sep>at$4 ,v4 8,i ,,am0 ,,expresses ,,immortality3 a4 ,ea* lea/ ?+ is et]nal & univ]sal4 ,,sev5? ,,meet+ ,! ,mean+ ( ,beauty ,i4 ,,beauty ,,is ,,! ,,symbol ,,( ,,complet5ess ,,& ,,h>mony3 a4 ,?is is ! reason beauty delights u3 #a4 ,x pictures ! aim & desire ( our :ole life4 b4 ,! smalle/ ?+ c be z a univ]se 9 itself1 if x be complete & h>moni\s1 i4e41 p]fect3 #a4 ,a drop z well z a planet2 a dog1 9 8 way1 z well z a man2 a day z well z a c5tury4 ,,ii4 ,,! ,,good1 ,,! ,,true ,,& ,,! ,,beautiful ,,h ,,! ,,same ,,end1 ,,& ,,are ,,s\ght1 ,,respectively1 ,,by ,,philosophy1 ,,sci5ce ,,& ,,art3 a4 ,philosophy seeks ! :ole at once1 !re=e c nev] rea* t complet5ess4 b4 ,sci5ce seeks individual tru?s1 n ! moral tru?1 or aim3 #a4 ,d>w91 ! philosophical sci5ti/4 c4 ,art gives u t complet5ess1 our aim1 symboliz$ 9 a small & def9ite %ape4 ,,iii4 ,,g5ius ,,is ,,! ,,common ,,human ,,quality1 ,,di/9ct ,,f ,,tal5t3 a4 ,! ,g5ius diff]s n 9 k9d1 b 9 degree1 f 8 fell[s4 b4 ,! desire = und]/&+ & complet5ess1 pres5t 9 "s measure 9 all1 is g5ius4 c4 ,! und]/&+ 9 ! spectator is ak9 to ! g5ius 9 ! arti/4 ,,iv4 ,,tal5t ,,is ,,! ,,p[] ,,( ,,expression3 a4 ,to see all ?+s z di/9ct :oles1 imp]sonally4 b4 ,! skill to portray1 & to h&le mat]ial4 c4 ,g5ius & tal5t v>y 9 degrees ( relation 9 diff]5t arti/s' "w3 #a4 ,! great idea1 imp]fectly execut$4 #b4 ,! small idea 9 p]fect =m4 ,v4 ,,art ,,z ,,! ,,symbol ,,( ,,complet5ess ,,& ,,creative ,,expression3 a4 ,! sublime lie ( ! ,symbol1 tru] ?an fact3 #a4 ,! effect ( removal f life1 ( unreality1 9 relation to beauty4 ,x seems m self-suffici5t4 b4 ,a complete vision mu/ n take sides3 #a4 ,:5 art is p>tisan1 = some?+1 x is also aga9/ some?+4 ,complete repres5tation4 c4 ,creative art gives u ! joy ( play1 ( creation3 #a4 ,play--int]play--is ! progress & w ( life1 & "w b a "n = ! disagreeable b necess>y "p ( ! game4 ,,eigh? 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9 pa9t+3 #a4 ,fals5ess ( photographic tru?1 because ( its lack ( unity & purpose4 4 ,! 8out-(-focus0 & imag9atively plann$ photograph sometimes arti/ic4 #b4 ,p]spective1 ! pa9t]'s vision ( ! s+le complete exp]i5ce4 #c4 ,to see beauty 9 ?+s is to see ! tru?4 #d4 8,prett9ess10 ! result ( cat]+ to ! %ortcom+s ( ! spectator's ta/e1 is a violation ( ! arti/'s ta/e or s5se ( complet5ess & tru?4 #e4 ,k ( life 7anatomy7 is necess>y3 4 ,"o mu/ und]/& life to portray x4 ,v4 ,,sculpture3 a4 ,! ,greek ,drama ( ! visual ,arts3 #a4 ,! unlifelik5ess ( ! mat]ial1 ! removal f life1 makes x m beautiful1 & a tru] symbol4 b4 ,expresses idea ?r\gh attitude ( ! human =m4 ,,vi4 ,,ar*itecture3 a4 ,l music's1 its appeal is to ! emotions1 )\t def9ite s5se or lifelik5ess2 b speaks z life itself4 b4 ,to be complete1 x mu/ express outw>dly its inn] use & mean+4 c4 ,to be s9c]e1 or true1 x mu/ express ! _s ( l& & p4 ,note4--,?is n9? meet+ might pr(itably be divid$ into two4 ,,t5? ,,meet+ ,%all ,we ,make an ,art ( ,life8 ,i4 ,,tru?1 ,,goodness ,,& ,,beauty1 ,,b ,,! ,,greate/ ,,( ,,^! ,,is ,,beauty1 ,,:i* ,,comb9es ,,! ,,o!r ,,two3 a4 ,sci5ce is k ( facts4 b4 ,philosophy is vision ( tru? 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