,a ,vindication of the ,seventh-,day ,sabbath1 and the ,commandments of ,god3 with a further history of ,god's ,peculiar ,people1 from #ahdg to #ahdh1 ,by ,joseph ,bates4 #a4 8,no ,god but me thou shalt adore2 #b4 ,no ,image frame to bow before2 #c4 ,my ,holy ,name take not in vain2 #d4 ,my sacred ,sabbath don't profane2 #e4 ,to parents render due respect2 #f4 ,all murder shun and malice check2 #g4 ,from filth and whoredom base1 abstain2 #h4 ,from theft and all unlawful gain2 #i4 ,false witness flee and slandering spite2 #aj4 ,nor covet what's thy neighbor's right40 ,new ,bedford ,press of ,benjamin ,lindsey #ahdh ,,contents ,preface4 ,the ,sabbath ,controversy4 ,barnabas ,against ,the ,sabbath4 ,to ,the ,editor ,of ,the 8,advent ,harbinger40 ,to the ,editor of ,the ,bible ,advocate4 ,past ,and ,present ,experience4 ,joseph ,bates4 ,scriptural ,observance ,of ,the ,sabbath4 ,under ,the ,gospel4 ,the ,beginning ,of ,the ,sabbath4 ,the ,last ,experiment ,on ,definite ,time2 ,the ,prolonging ,of ,the ,days ,all ,failed4 ,christ's ,second ,coming ,to ,gather ,his ,people4 ,a ,correction4 ,seventh ,fourteenth ,of ,revelations4 ,footnotes ,,preface4 ,,to ,,the ,,little ,,flock3 ,i ,,dedicate to you the following pages1 with my continued prayers to ,god1 through our ,great ,high ,priest and coming ,king1 that they may1 in connection with ,god's ,holy ,word and guidance of the ,divine ,spirit1 enable you more clearly to discover the deceptive arts of the ,devil1 and the agents he is employing in these last days1 to betray and ensnare you in his 7almost7 innumerable and complicated variety of sins and snares2 and see your true position just here under the ,,high ,,lands of ,,immortality6 ,do not forget1 while seeking to understand the ,scriptures with a simple and honest desire to live here by every word of ,god1 to read again and again the warning that ,god in his infinite mercy gave to ,jesus more than fifty years after his glorious resurrection and triumphant ascension to his ,father's seat in his ,sanctuary in the heaven of heavens2 and he sent it by his angel1 who presented it before ,john in holy vision1 recorded in his ,rev4 xii3 #ac and #ag1 and in xvi4 chapter1 first part of the #acth1 and #adth and #aeth verses4 ,you will see the opening developement of these very things in the work before you4 ,none will fully realize them but those who are keeping all of the ,commandments of ,god1 especially his ,holy ,seventh-day ,sabbath4 ,without fear of contradiction here or hereafter before the great ,,white ,,throne1 ,i tell you there is not an ,advent paper 7that ,i have heard of7 published in the land1 that is leading to the kingdom4 ,i do not say but what they publish many truths2 but their heretical doctrines will1 if followed1 never1 no never1 lead you to ,god6 ,and as you pass along through these peace and safety valves in your prophetical history1 watching and anxiously waiting for ,god to give the fourth sign of the coming of ,jesus by shaking the heavens and earth1 the sea and all nations1 and give you the time of ,jesus' coming1 you will more clearly discover the widening track these advocates are pursuing with almost to a unit every professed advent minister in their train4 ,you will also see that the ,waymarks and high heaps in your pathway1 past and present1 are the only sure earthly guides to the peaceful haven of eternal rest4 ,from my watch-tower ,i have discovered and pointed out to you some of the devouring ,,wolves in sheep's clothing4 ,let us avoid them1 and live prayerful1 humble and watchful1 for more will yet be seen1 and perhaps start right out of your midst6 ,as ,i am unable to pay the ,printer1 your means--as ,god has given you ability--will be needed4 ,i trust that ,god's true children are ready4 ,fairhaven1 ,mass4 ,jan4 #ahdh4 ,j4 ,b4 ,,the ,,sabbath ,,controversy4 ,once more ,i feel constrained to speak in vindication of the ,sabbath of the ,lord our ,god4 ,i have been privileged to read about all the articles which have appeared in the ,,bible ,,advocate1 both for and against the ,seventh-day ,sabbath1 for about four months past2 and occasionally a thrust and a challenge from the ,advent ,harbinger1 declaring that the law of ,god was abolished more than eighteen hundred years ago1 and that we have since that time been under grace4 ,the most that ,i have feared in this controversy was1 that it would not be continued long enough to bring out the whole truth1 to the utter confusion and dismay of these professed ,second ,advent ,sabbath breakers4 ,one trait in their characters is now pretty clearly developed1 that is--they are ,sabbath haters6 ,the law of ,god is nicknamed by them1 the 8,jewish ,ritual10 the 8,jewish ,sabbath10 the 8,sabbath of the old ,jews10 c4 c41 thus virtually showing up their characters in these perilous times1 according to ,paul1 as covenant breakers1 boasters1 proud1 blasphemers1 denying the righteous law of ,god1 and yet professing to believe the whole word of ,god4 8,as ,jannes and ,jambres withstood ,moses0 so do some of these leading men resist the truth4 8,a wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land1 the prophets prophecy falsely and the priests bear rule by their means1 and my people love to have it so2 and what will ye do in the end thereof80 ,answer--8,the soul that sinneth1 it shall die40 ,i think it is becoming very evident that they are fulfilling ,rev4 xii3 #ag1 and xvi3 #ac1 first clause4 ,none others so likely to deceive as these1 because of their position in the near coming of the ,saviour4 ,it amounts to almost an impossibility to get their definition of the ,law and ,commandments4 ,one class will tell you that the old and new testaments are the ,word and ,commandments of ,god4 ,a second will tell you that the new testament contains all the commandments and teachings that are now required of us4 ,i was informed of a company of professed advent believers1 not thirty miles from this1 having become so alarmed or tenacious1 that they would not carry the old testament with them to meeting on the first day4 ,there was nothing in it1 however1 that they feared but the commandment to keep the ,seventh-day ,sabbath4 ,a third class will tell you that baptism1 the ,lord's ,supper1 washing one another's feet1 holy greeting1 and all the commands which are given1 are commandments4 ,joseph ,marsh1 editor of the ,advent ,harbinger1 says we are not under the law 7of ,moses7 but under the law of grace1 the new testament4 ,now the ,apostle ,james has given us a test which will utterly confound all such unscriptural arguments1 viz43 8,whosoever shall keep the whole law but shall fail with respect to one precept hath been guilty of all40--,macknight's trans4 ,now to make it still plainer for us1 he says1 8,for he who commanded do not commit adultery1 hath commanded also1 do not kill4 ,now if thou commit not adultery1 but killest1 thou hast become a transgressor of the law40 ,now ,i ask in all candor which of these five are right8 ,you answer1 ,james1 the inspired one4 ,well1 does he justify either of the other four8 ,you answer no1 for he has directed us to the tables of stone1 the ten commandments in the law1 recorded in ,exodus xx3 #a-ag4 ,this is the true source4 ,is it doubted8 ,then here is the testimony of ,jesus in ,matt4 v3 #ag-ai4 ,now read the #bast and #bgth verses--the very same ones ,james has quoted4 ,see also the #cc;d verse1 the third precept4 ,there are several others if required1 but surely these two are clear4 ,certainly no one will doubt from the above testimony but what the ten commandments in the decalogue are all and the only ones that man is required to keep1 with the exception of the new one in ,john xiii3 #cd1 given for the church of ,christ4 ,but ,j4 ,marsh says1 it is clear that all the ten commandments in the decalogue were abolished at the crucifixion of ,christ4 ,so says every one that takes this stand1 and they quote for proof #b;d ,col4 #ad-ag4 ,but it happens very unfortunately for them all that ,james saw his master crucified and his testimony is dated ,a4,d4 #fj1 about twenty-nine years beyond their point of time1 and shows us that the commandments were as much enforced then and ever would be1 as they were when his master was crucified twenty-nine years before4 ,now ,i say that this testimony pointedly and positively condemns them and will condemn them at the judgment4 ,for proof of this ,i appeal to the teachings of our ,lord ,jesus ,christ1 what we must do to be saved1 8,if thou wilt enter into life1 keep the commandments40 ,but some will say ,james called it the law1 therefore you must so expound it4 ,i will let ,god and ,jesus do that3 ,god says positively that the keeping of the ,seventh-day ,sabbath is my commandment and my law4 ,exod4 xvi3 #bh1 #bi4 ,so he has in other places taught us respecting the whole decalogue1 and so in like manner does ,jesus4 ,read the same question and answer recorded in ,luke x3 #be-bh3 8,,what ,,shall ,i ,,do ,,to ,,inherit ,,eternal ,,life80 ,jesus asks him what is written in the ,,law4 ,he repeats the words of ,jesus recorded in ,matt4 xxii3 #cf-dj1 or1 in #cg-cith verses4 8,and 7,jesus7 said unto him1 thou hast answered ,,right this do and ,,thou ,,shalt ,,live40 ,now1 if you want it still clearer1 read ,matt v3 #ag-ai4 ,law and commandments are here too1 synonymous3 8,whosoever therefore shall break one of these least laws commandments1 and shall teach men so1 shall be in no esteem in the reign of heaven1 but whosoever shall practice and teach them shall be highly esteemed in the reign of heaven40--,campbell trans4 ,that he is speaking of the law of commandments in the decalogue is positive and clear from the #bast1 #bgth and #cc;d verses4 ,that he means the whole1 is also clear from this and the above quotations in ,matt4 xxii4 and ,luke x4 ,now if the keeping of the commandments will secure us eternal life1 and the violation of them render us of no esteem in the reign of heaven1 how can those enter there who do not keep them1 and especially such ones as ,joseph ,marsh and his adherents1 who are teaching the world that there are no commandments1 and are endeavoring to dissuade and discourage and reproach all of ,god's honest children1 who are striving to be highly esteemed in the reign of heaven4 ,does not the ,saviour's language as clearly apply to them now as it did when he was permanently establishing and confirming this covenant1 the law and commandments of ,god1 8putting them into our minds and writing them on our hearts40 viz43 8,why do ye also transgress the commandments of ,god by your tradition8 ,ye hypocrites1 well did ,esaias prophecy of you saying1 this people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth1 and honoreth me with their lips10 ,they are advocating his speedy coming to judge the world4 8but their heart is far from me4 ,but in vain they do worship me teaching for doctrines the commandments of men40 ,oh1 but say some1 we believe that the commandments are as valid now as they ever were4 ,why do you then constantly and perseveringly reject1 scoff at1 and sneeringly deride1 and denounce1 those that are as honest as you are1 while they are endeavoring to keep the fourth commandment just as ,god had directed them8 ,when you have been so repeatedly shown by their writings1 drawn from the clear word that the fourth commandment is not abolished and never has undergone any change more than the other nine1 and that there is no other weekly sabbath recorded or intimated in the old and new testaments4 ,if you will follow such downright infidelity as is taught in all the second advent papers respecting ,god's holy sabbath1 and still continue to stigmatize the holy law of ,god1 how can you expect to be treated otherwise than the rebellious house of ,israel1 and be made to feel in a very little while from this1 all the horrors of a guilty conscience1 urging you to do that which you now detest and abhor3 even to come and bow at the feet of these very despised--as you are now disposed to term them--8door shutters10 8mystery folks10 8,judaizers10 8feet washers10 8deluded fanatics10 c4 c4 ,see ,isa4 xlix3 #bc1 and lx3 #ad2 ,rev4 iii3 #i4 ,here your characters are delineated4 ,you say no1 these mean the nominal church4 ,it is not so4 ,they have rejected the message of the second advent4 ,and you since that time 7#ahad7 have rejected the word of ,god4 ,our testimony will not be rejected when called for that you with us left them with all their creeds and confessions of faith and professed to take the whole word of ,god for our rule of faith and practice4 ,this then is your clear position1 even while opposing the commandments of ,god4 ,if you ask why ,i speak in such positive terms about or concerning the commandments of ,god1 allow me to cite you to our history1 ,rev4 xiv3 #ab4 ,is not this positive proof8 ,also in xii3 #ag4 ,do you not read your own characters as described above1 on the remnant of the last end8 and are not these individuals who enter the gates of the city the same remnant that are at last saved by keeping the commandments8 xxii3 #ad4 ,does not the #aeth verse describe those who are left out1 8and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie40 ,how perfectly this compares with what ,i quoted above1 ,rev4 iii3 #i4 ,see also #ast ,john ii3 #d4 8,he that saith ,i know him and keep not his commandments is a ,,liar and the truth is not in him40 ,you will possibly say the three texts which ,i have quoted in ,rev4 xii41 xiv4 and xxii41 have no reference to the ,sabbath4 ,when ,i come to treat on the xiv4 of ,rev4 ,i will look at this point4 ,but allow me to state here1 that the first three commandments in the decalogue have never been a subject of dispute 7separately7 in ,christendom1 while the fourth has been for fifteen hundred years4 ,we know positively that this is true in our second advent experience4 ,therefore it is plain that by keeping the fourth commandment or the seventh-day ,sabbath as it stands recorded1 and in the very time too in our history1 we are clearly fulfilling the prophecy1 viz43 8,here is the patience of the saints1 here are they that keep the commandments of ,god and the faith of ,jesus40 ,allow me to state my conviction here with reference to the great mass of advent believers especially1 that if they could quietly dispose of the seventh-day ,sabbath and sink it with the ,jewish rituals1 then they would never raise their voice against the other nine commandments of ,god4 ,this1 then1 is the evident reason why they are wielding their puny weapons to smite down the only foundation that upholds the old and new testament4 ,it would be much easier work for them to stop the raging of the hurricane4 ,god has them in derision1 he will laugh them to scorn4 ,but ,i must pass to the examination of this subject1 as ,i intimated in the beginning4 ,,is ,,the ,,first ,,day ,,of ,,the ,,week ,,the ,,seventh8 ,before entering upon this subject1 it will be proper for me to state1 that some time last ,august the editor of the ,bible ,advocate1 being pressed by his brethren to open his columns for the discussion of the ,sabbath question1 rather reluctantly complied1 by first giving his views against it4 ,he stated that he should first give ,c4 ,stowe's view1 in the affirmative1 covering the whole ground1 and then the view of some other writer in the negative1 before he published any thing more on the other side1 and so on4 ,sister ,stowe's piece1 accompanied by the views of the editor1 appeared in the ,b4 ,a41 ,sept4 #b;d1 #ahdg4 ,c4 ,stowe sent the editor two articles1 as she says4 ,the editor saw proper to publish her second article and withhold the first1 for purposes best known to himself4 ,perhaps it was considered objectionable1 as the editor of the ,advent ,harbinger had refused to publish it for her4 ,so for some reason or other1 only part of the ground was covered1 and not one candid objection or examination offered to her second1 except by a certain character1 who1 apparently1 was ashamed to have his real name known among honest seekers for the truth4 ,so far as the subject has advanced1 ,j4 ,croffut1 of ,n4 ,y4 city1 ,j4 ,b4 ,cook1 of ,new ,bedford1 ,mass4 and ,a4 ,carpender1 of ,sutton1 ,vt4 have spoken in the affirmative4 ,the negative is advocated by the editor1 ,joseph ,turner and ,barnabas1 and perhaps two others2 besides what has been teeming from the ,advent ,harbinger1 in the negative4 ,now1 ,i do not re-examine ,turner and ,barnabas1 because they have not been ably replied to by ,j4 ,croffut1 ,j4 ,b4 ,cook and ,c4 ,stowe of ,n4 ,h41 but because ,i see the necessity of taking up the subject in a different form1 without being restricted1 as all generally are1 who write for papers4 ,another important point which governs me1 is1 that all the little flock may understand the true bearings of the subject1 for there are undoubtedly a great many that do not see the ,bible ,advocate1 and because ,i felt like taking a part in this great subject1 in which ,i feel deeply interested1 and ,i see from the commencement that ,i was excluded from that paper1 by the statement that ,c4 ,stowe would cover the whole ground in the affirmative4 ,i furthermore perceived there were additional objections to their unscriptural views1 which continued to be presented to my mind4 ,,joseph ,,turner in attempting to prove that ,sunday1 the first day of the week is the seventh day of the week1 and therefore the proper ,sabbath1 has failed to make out his case4 ,his proposed foundation is from ,matt4 xii3 #ci1 #dj4 8,but he answered and said unto them1 an evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign1 and there shall no sign be given to it1 but the sign of the prophet ,jonas1 for as ,jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly1 so shall the son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth40 ,he says1 8to rear the temple of this body in three days1 or to remain in the heart of the earth three nights and to rise the third day was1 according to the above scripture1 to be a sign4 ,i will now prove by ,christ and his disciples that this sign was literally given1 and that he arose1 not the second1 but third early in the morning40 ,this statement is not true4 ,the above scripture states three days1 and not as you say you will now prove in three days4 ,if it proves any thing1 it proves three whole days1 and then of course the ,saviour would rise on the fourth day4 ,this1 according to your mode of calculating1 would make the seventh day come on ,monday4 ,if you want the third day1 or within three days1 why not take as many as you need for your argument1 from the eighteen other texts1 and not take this isolated one1 and then pervert it1 as you have done4 ,the only object that ,i can see1 in your perversion of the text1 is to prove1 as you say1 that ,jesus was three nights in the heart of the earth1 viz43 ,friday night1 one2 ,saturday night1 two1 and ,sabbath night1 three4 ,you say1 8that ,christ was actually raised the third day and not the second1 as tradition holds it40 ,i am not aware of any such tradition4 ,that would be perverting the whole eighteen texts instead of the one you have done4 ,but that he was raised the third day1 and that third day was the first of the week1 is the joint testimony of the four evangelists1 ,matt4 xxviii3 #a2 ,mark xvi3 #b2 ,luke xxiv3 #a2 ,john xx3 #a4 ,but let us see how you have obtained these three nights as stated above1 which1 as you say1 8proves triumphantly that #8,,our ,,sabbath' is the seventh day40 ,first read the second paragraph in your ,p4 ,s41 where you have attempted to pervert the plain and clear testimony of ,luke1 in chap4 xxiii3 #ed1 #ef4 ,here you stated one scriptural fact3 ,that the ,sabbath always commenced at evening4 8,from evening to evening shall you celebrate your ,sabbath40 ,then1 as a most natural consequence1 the next day would begin where the ,sabbath ended1 and so of every other day thenceforward1 or chaos and confusion would follow4 ,this also perfectly agrees with ,god's manner of commencing time at the creation3 8,the evening 7first17 and the morning is the first day10 c4 ,now as you have shown that ,friday was the first day of the crucifixion and that it was so far spent and passed away at the time our ,lord was buried1 that the women could not have got home and prepared spices1 7which probably was not more than twenty minutes labor17 before the next day began4 ,how1 and by what authority do you claim ,friday night8 ,does ,friday night come after twenty-four hours of that day are spent8 ,you see how difficult ,god makes the way of transgressors4 ,you may reply that you made a mistake4 ,will you allow me to tell you where your mistake commenced on this subject4 ,if ,i am not very much mistaken it was when you gave up keeping the true seventh day1 the only historical1 chronological or biblical day of the week ever given to man4 ,well1 you may say1 ,i have made some converts4 ,true--but they are also deceived1 and many very likely rejoicing in it like ,d4 ,b4 ,,wyatt1 who seems to have swallowed the whole1 and is endeavoring1 with the assistance of the ,advent ,harbinger1 7although they are at antipodes respecting the commandments of ,god17 to spread the glad tidings far and wide4 ,this editor is in no wise particular about men and measures to accomplish his ,jesuitical purpose1 to annihilate the very foundation and superstructure of the ,bible1 8the commandments of ,god40 ,matt4 xxii3 #dj4 ,this wonderful piece of ,advent intelligence is recorded in the same paper with ,d4 ,b4 ,wyatt's1 ,sept #i1 #ahdg4 ,see also ,april #bh1 page #ch4 ,let it be well understood here also1 that this man and ,j4 ,v4 ,himes1 editor of the ,advent ,herald1 are the two1 and only two1 editors and papers in this country1 which ,william ,miller of ,lowhampton1 ,n4 ,y4 recommends to give the light on the second ,advent4 ,the meat in due season4 ,your erroneous doctrine is heartily welcomed by some here1 and many ,i understand in ,new ,bedford1 and very likely many in other places4 ,yes1 ,i have heard of it away on the ,lakes4 ,i was told by one the other day who had backslidden like yourself1 that it was the best argument he had yet seen4 ,now if you undertake to rectify your mistake1 it is possible you may destroy all their joy1 until some one presents another error--for the truth1 it seems1 they are determined not to have4 ,again1 you say1 8let my brethren remember that the law of ,moses1 made the first day of the feast of the passover1 a sabbath in which no work should be done2 this was the ,sabbath that drew on4 ,moreover1 ,i will here prove that the next day following the crucifixion1 was not the ,sabbath of the ,lord1 which the ,jews at that time kept4--,see ,luke xxiii3 #ed40 ,now1 ,i say if you will read the next two verses1 #ee and #ef1 which are connected with #ed1 it will positively contradict your assertion1 for it proves that they did keep the next day as the ,sabbath1 according to the commandment1 and the seventh-day ,sabbath was and is1 the only ,sabbath commandment in the whole bible4 ,you pass this over and cite us to ,matt xxvii3 #fb1 #fd1 and base your whole proof on inference4 ,it is this1 that the ,jews were so strict and pious in the observance of the ,sabbath that they would not have gone to ,pilate on that day to have asked him to set a watch over the body of ,jesus1 if it had been the ,sabbath1 because it would be an important fact to record against them4 8,how easy to have said in this record that the ,jews on the ,sabbath10 c4 ,yes sir1 it would have been just as easy for your purpose1 to have said in this record also1 that 8,,our ,,sabbath is the ,seventh day40 ,then probably you would not have to answer for the sin which you have in these instances1 knowingly committed4 ,besides this1 you must have calculated largely on the credulity of your readers1 to suppose that all of them would swallow such absurdities4 ,as that men1 who had just committed one of the most aggravating crimes ever recorded in the annals of history1 in barbarously and cruelly murdering the son of the living ,god1 should then for fear of having it recorded against them as touching the purity of their motives that they had violated the holy ,sabbath of ,god by calling on the ,governor1 on the ,sabbath of the ,lord ,god1 to set a watch over their victim1 for fear that some of his disciples would come and steal him away1 and thus openly expose them to the scorn of the world4 ,this is your proof why the next day after the crucifixion could not be the ,sabbath4 ,how unfortunate and trying it must be to you1 who1 after being so highly extalled by your hearers in ,new ,bedford1 ,fairhaven1 c41 for your clear and plain ,holy ,ghost living and preaching1 to have to flee to such mean subterfuges to establish a position to justify your backsliding from the plain and positive texts which stand right in your way4 ,respecting your text in ,matt4 xii3 #dj4 ,if you made use of it as it stands1 it would positively prove the resurrection to be on the closing hours of ,monday1 between #c and #f ,p4,m4 and not in the morning1 as every where recorded4 ,so then1 to fulfill your text to the very extent1 and have the resurrection in the morning1 it must be on ,tuesday morning1 for1 ,monday morning would bring you twelve hours too soon1 only two and a half days instead of three4 ,this would make your ,sabbath1 as you exultingly claim it for your adherents1 come on ,monday2 that is1 by your new mode of establishing the ,sabbath4 ,and then ,d4 ,b4 ,wyatt1 if he followed your strange view1 would have to recall his address to his brethren and change the time of celebrating the ,lord's ,supper on ,monday evening1 and have it on ,tuesday4 ,i presume the editor of the ,harbinger would have no objections to the alteration1 provided ,mr4 ,w4 was satisfied4 ,i know it is stated that ,jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly4 ,i know of no way to prove it but by the recorded time that our ,lord was in the earth4 ,you see that ,matthew says as he was three days1 c4 ,now for the proof of how long he was there4 ,first testimony--his disciples1 ,luke xxiv3 #ba-bc4 ,second testimony--,angels1 v3 #g4 ,third testimony--,jesus himself1 #df v4 8,thus it behoved ,christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day40 ,this testimony1 be it remembered1 was given a few hours after the resurrection1 on the same day4 ,here then is the proof of what ,jesus had before asserted1 recorded ten times by the evangelist1 and once by ,paul2 #ast ,cor4 xv3 #d2 ,matt4 xvi3 #ba2 xvii3 #bc2 xx3 #ai2 ,mark ix3 #ca2 x3 #cd and viii3 #ca27a7 ,luke ix3 #bb2 xiii3 #cb2 xviii3 #cc2 ,john ii3 #ai4 ,and five times by his accusers1 ,matt4 xxvi3 #fa2 xxviii3 #dj and #fc2 ,mark xiv3 #eh2 xv3 #bi4 ,every one of these eighteen texts records the resurrection in three1 some of them within three days2 and not a syllable about nights4 ,the one in ,matt xii3 #dj1 says three days and three nights1 referring to ,jonas1 as above4 ,now ,i ask1 shall we take this one isolated text1 out of the harmony of the whole eighteen1 and then pervert it1 to prove that some how or other the world have lost one day1 and therefore the first day of the week is the seventh4 ,we all know that our judgment always rests on the majority or weight of evidence4 ,here then we have seven to one besides the testimony of ,jesus himself after his resurrection1 that he arose the third day1 and clearly demonstrating that he did not lie there three days and three nights1 and proving1 to my judgment1 that ,jonas was also delivered the third day4 ,see other scripture rules1 ,esther iv3 #af1 #ag1 and v3 #a4 ,here the ,jews were to fast three days1 but ,esther ended it the third4 ,see also #ast ,kings1 xx3 #bi1 the seven days ended on the seventh4 ,also1 ,gen4 xvii3 #ab1 eight days4 ,lev4 xii3 #c1 shows the eighth the same4 ,thus we see that the testimony of ,jesus is clear4 ,it is clear to my mind that the ,lord ,jesus was not at furthest1 more than thirty-eight hours in the tomb1 and yet he was there1 according to scripture proof1 a part of ,friday1 the sixth day1 all of the seventh day1 ,sabbath1 and a part of ,sunday1 the first day1 which last was the third day4 ,proof1 ,luke xxiii3 #ed-ef4 8,and that day was the preparation and the ,sabbath drew on40 ,mark this1 that the preparation had come1 and they were drawing to the ,sabbath4 ,see here1 the preparation was always on the day of the ,passover1 the fourteenth of the first month4 ,the feast day was the fifteenth1 the next day4 ,let ,moses give the time3 8,and ye shall keep it up the ,lamb until the fourteenth day of the same month1 and the whole assembly of the congregation of ,israel shall kill it in the evening40 ,exo4 xii3 #f4 ,the original--see margin--reads between the two evenings4 ,see the same in ,num4 xxviii3 #d1--practiced and carried out even to lighting the lamps in the tabernacle4 ,exo4 xxx3 #h4 ,now our blessed ,lord expired on the cross at the very time that this preparation always took place for #afgj years before1 namely1 the ninth hour1 7,matt4 xxvii1 and ,mark xv17 three o'clock in the afternoon4 ,then between the two evenings is just three hours1 from #c to #f ,p4 ,m4 ,keep this clear in mind and you will clearly understand how the disciples could have three hours from the death of their master to see him put in the tomb1 to have gone and 8bought sweet spices40 7,mark xvi3 #a17 and be ready to keep the ,sabbath according to the commandment1 7please read it in ,exo4 xx3 #h-aa17 as stated in ,luke xxiii3 #ed-ef4 ,you will understand ,mark xv3 #db1 8,now when the even was come because it was the preparation1 that is the day before the ,sabbath10 that it was the ninth hour1 or #c ,p4,m4 ,here the preparation goes on for three hours1 until the ,sabbath commenced4 ,you see he says this was the day before the ,sabbath1 and when the ,sabbath was passed1 early in the morning of the first day1 they found he had arisen4 ,mark xvi4 ,here then is the three days3 ,the day before the ,sabbath he was entombed1 between the hours of #c and #f ,p4,m41 and the day after the ,sabbath1 the first day of the week1 he arose4 ,as ,j4 ,b4 ,cook says1 ,i can conceive of nothing more definite4 ,whitby and ,scott say1 8,it is a received rule among the ,jews that a part of a day is put for a whole day40 ,and so1 let me add1 it is with the commercial nations of the earth4 ,every bill1 or note1 or deed1 counts the day of its date and the day of its extinguishment4 ,for instance1 the transaction of an interest note takes place at half past #aa o'clock in the evening of the first day of ,january1 #ahdg1 and the interest is cast to the first day of ,january1 #ahdh1 the demand for it would be valid if called for at #cj minutes ,a4 ,m4 after midnight4 ,both of these dates are counted days in this and all other kinds of business transactions1 as we reckon time4 ,and ,i say it is impossible for any rational being to understand it in any other way4 ,when one day ends the next begins1 and so ,i have amply shown is the bible rule4 ,then1 according to the testimony adduced1 if the ,saviour was placed in the tomb any where between the hours of #c and #f o'clock ,p4 ,m4 on ,friday1 then ,i say that day was as much counted for one1 as the day on which he arose2 and no man1 not even ,j4 ,turner1 undertakes to say that it was more than a part of a day4 ,that this work of preparation was all accomplished before the ,sabbath came1 is perfectly clear from the two passages already quoted in ,luke and ,mark4 ,see also ,john xix3 #ca4 ,here then the antetype agrees perfectly with the type1 all the preparation work accomplished between the hours of three and six in the evening1 called between the two evenings4 ,much also has been said about the next day1 the fifteenth being a ,jewish festival ,sabbath1 and therefore ,god's seventh-day ,sabbath could not possibly be until the day after4 ,just as well might it be asserted when our fourth of ,july happens to fall on ,sunday1 that it could not be ,sunday1 because it was the anniversary of our independence1 but the next day would be ,sunday4 ,this explains all the difficulty4 ,this feast day of theirs always following the ,passover day1 happened this year to come on ,god's holy ,sabbath day1 hence the peculiar expression of ,john1 8for that ,sabbath was an high day40 ,god's instruction to ,moses respecting all the feast days is right to the point1 8,every thing upon his day40 ,lev4 xxiii3 #cg4 ,you see there is no provision to defer the ,sabbath festivals whenever they happened on the ,sabbath of the ,lord our ,god4 ,now ,i think the above ,scriptures do clearly and incontrovertibly establish the resurrection to have been on ,sunday morning1 the first day of the week1 and the day before1 on which the ,saviour rested in the tomb and his disciples in the city of ,jerusalem1 was the seventh day of the week1 the ,sabbath of the ,lord our ,god1 according to the commandment2 and the day before that1 viz4 on ,friday1 he was crucified and buried4 ,this clearly overthrows your unscriptural arguments to establish the first day of the week for the seventh-day ,sabbath4 ,i have gone much further into this argument than ,i should1 had ,i not have heard and seen the incalculable mischief that was being accomplished by the spread of such an argument2 from one too1 who is looked upon by those not personally acquainted with him as an ambassador1 fully approved of ,god2 a pillar in the church of these last days2 one who is fully competent to preach and take the lead in camp-meetings1 c4 c4 ,and still ,i feel there is a duty devolving upon me1 which ,i ought not to shrink from1 notwithstanding his high profession1 and being fostered1 and upheld as a brother beloved1 by the ,advent papers4 ,it is that since the winter of #ahde1 you have1 by your deceptive arts1 and false expositions of ,god's ,word1 taught and practiced ridiculous things in the churches1 such as ,god never has1 nor ever will approve4 ,your confession last spring in the ,boston ,conference seemed more like justifying and exalting yourself from your debased and fallen condition1 than a bible confession1 which says1 8confess your faults one to another40 ,but you perceived1 ,i suppose with others1 that it had become fashionable to confess the monstrous errors in our past experience in the advent doctrine to those who had drawn back and organized under the ,laodocean state of the church4 ,and also1 that ,j4 ,marsh of ,rochester1 and others from different places1 were distinguishing themselves by their wonderful confessions2 therefore you also confessed how sorry you were for the mischief 7or injury7 that you had done the cause of ,god by writing and preaching the doctrine of shut door and ,bridegroom come4 ,here you attempted to put down and destroy two of the most important and prominent truths according to the types and new testament teaching1 with our history in the past1 that is connected with the 8twenty-three hundred days10 and 8cleansing of1 or vindicating the sanctuary02 and use them as a scape goat to carry off and hide your unholy and iniquitous practices from their view4 ,why not confess that after you and ,a4 ,hale had published this clear scriptural view1 that you had been so positive that you were right in your position1 that at one of your meeting places in ,portsmouth1 ,n4 ,h41 you declared that you was ready to seal it with your own heart's blood1 and that the appointment which you afterwards made to meet at ,richard ,walker's1 if not1 you would state the reason by writing1 had been utterly disregarded1 although you had passed through there several times4 ,why not confess with contrition your unscriptural teachings and practices8 ,and lastly1 why not inform your listening audience of the wonderful discovery and proficiency which you had made during that time1 in the growing science of your predecessors1 8,jannes and ,jambres80 and what a loving drawing and wonderful effect this mesmeric influence produced on some of the dear sisters6 ,you was aware that such kind of satanic practices would not go down with your hearers1 therefore you withheld it probably for a more convenient season4 ,the response from heaven to this confession 7,i think7 is long since recorded by a servant of the ,lord4 ,isa4 i3 #aj-ae4 ,since you began to preach in ,new ,bedford1 where it was said such a wonderful revival was following your preaching and practice1 that some in ,fairhaven were looked upon as sinners1 because they would not believe that you were filled with the ,holy ,ghost4 ,here in ,new ,bedford1 ,i am told1 that in reply to some of these charges3 that you had studied or looked into the subject of mesmerism that you might ascertain the cause1 or meaning1 of the delusions practiced by the advent people4 ,i think that by comparing dates1 it may pretty clearly be known that this is one of the first and principal causes of the state of things now among many in ,maine1 especially where your influence was felt4 ,in the course of this conversation you stated something else1 which you will remember1 and for fear1 or something else1 that it would not be believed1 you said you could prove it by certain persons whom you named4 ,i have since ascertained that these persons neither know1 nor have ever known1 or have intimated any such thing4 ,now1 ,i ask1 how much your confessions are worth in ,boston or any where else4 ,in the name of my ,master1 ,i here warn the little flock to beware of your ungodly teaching4 ,since answering your argument on the first day for the seventh1 ,i see by the ,advocate of ,dec4 #afth1 your exulting reply to ,j4 ,b4 ,cook4 ,because he has not met every point of your twisted1 sophistical argument1 you now think it will stand forever4 ,you say 8,the position ,i have taken will stand the onset of all while the eternal rock of inspiration stands secure2 hence with confidence calm as heaven1 ,i take my pen to reply10 c4 ,we read that 8the ,devils believe and tremble10 while this wonderful man is calm as heaven1 because he thinks he has gained one day since the crucifixion1 which would destroy the law of ,god1 the fourth commandment1 when in fact he has only stole six or eight hours4 ,perhaps he will try to borrow or take the balance in the forthcoming articles which he promises4 ,and here he says again1 8the matter shall ,,rest without a ,,review ,,on ,,either ,,side066 8,vanity of vanities1 saith the preacher60 ,will ,god's word forever remain unvindicated1 because of your veto8 ,your one mistake that ,i have shown1 proves your infallibility4 ,let me repeat it in connection3 ,in your text1 ,matt4 xii3 #ci1 #dj1 it states three days and three nights4 ,this itself overthrows the whole of your argument--for three days are just as long as three nights4 ,see how it will work by your rule3 ,jesus entombed just about #f ,p4,m4 on ,friday4 ,now count--,friday evening1 one night2 ,saturday evening1 two nights2 ,sunday evening1 three nights4 ,now for the days3 ,saturday1 one2 ,sunday1 two2 and ,monday three4 ,but to make it three1 the resurrection must be on ,monday evening1 at #f o'clock1 and the scripture says he arose in the morning6 ,then if you wait until ,tuesday morning1 you make it just three and a half days and four nights1 and your ,sabbath commences on ,monday4 ,but if you say it must be ,monday morning1 then you have but two days and twelve hours4 ,you say this would be the third day1 just as ,i say--true1 but this text says 8three days40 ,besides1 you say in your second article1 8some have been so vain on this point as to count the day of the crucifixion1 one2 the next day1 one2 and then the morning while it was yet dark1 one2 and therefore the third day4 ,this is almost wicked4 ,does not ,jesus ,christ in whose word we trust--say three nights80 ,yes1 sir1 and does he not as expressly say three days1 too8 ,if we are almost wicked in counting1 as you say1 then all the evangelists were1 ,mark and ,luke especially4 ,i say there is no other rule but the one you call us vain for using4 ,if it is almost wicked to count a part of the first day1 for one day1 by what authority do you count a part of the last day1 for one day8 ,the scripture no where says1 two days1 and three nights4 ,and then as ,i have shown where you borrowed a part of a night1 by counting ,friday night for one of your three nights1 when you insisted upon it that it was past1 because the disciples had no time left of ,friday to even prepare their spices4 ,did you not see that if you claimed six hours of ,friday1 to break the scriptures1 that the disciples would have just as much time to prepare for the ,sabbath8 ,how is it that you do not understand what the angel ,gabriel said should be in the last days3 8,but the wicked shall do wickedly1 and none of the wicked shall understand40 ,i really hope no one will be troubled with your forthcoming article4 ,it would be far easier for you to shovel the ,alleghany mountains into ,lake ,ontario than to attempt to gain one day1 or prove that we have lost one4 ,your threat about the fallacy of history1 and what you will do about it1 is also vain2 yet1 if you could do so1 the bible is a sufficient rule in this case4 ,you have therefore made but two and a half days and two nights1 and work it which way you will1 you will fail4 ,you cannot destroy the validity of the other eighteen texts4 ,it is clear that the ,jewish feasts always occurred when they fell on the ,sabbath of the ,lord4 ,lev4 xxiii3 #cg1 last cl4 ,,barnabas ,,against ,,the ,,sabbath4 ,barnabas would fain have the world believe that ,god has made one law which man could never keep without leading him into bondage4 ,he says1 8,sister ,stowe1 nor any others of like faith pretends to keep the seventh-day according to the commandment1 that reads1 #8thou shalt not do any work4' ,exo4 xx3 #aj4 #8,let no man go out of his place on the seventh day4' ,there stands the command with all its terrible sanctions of thunder and lightnings4 ,if this command is now in force sister ,s4 and all the rest must stand condemned at the dread tribunal of ,god1 for they all break that commandment as much as we who do not pretend to keep it40 ,the speciousness of ,b4's reasoning is a great deal more likely to lead saints into bondage1 than what he has said of sister ,stowe4 ,he begins in the very onset to mislead the mind4 ,he quotes 8,let no man go out of his place on the seventh day10 and says1 there stands the command with all its terrible sanctions of thunder and lightnings1 and then says sister ,s4 and ,br4 ,bates and all the rest must stand condemned at the dread tribunal of ,god1 for they all break that commandment4 ,now ,i say this is not a commandment1 but a command given to the children of ,israel twenty days before they heard that terrible thunder and lightning at mount ,sinai1 where the ten commandments was made known to them by the ,almighty ,god's speaking them all out in an audible voice1 and then writing them with his own finger on tables of stone4 ,these are all the commandments that ,god ever gave to man1 and they were as equally binding on the stranger1 7the ,gentile7 that was within their gates1 as on the ,jew4 ,every one can see how difficult it would be for a man well versed in scripture to remember every direction1 or a 8thus sayeth the ,lord10 for a commandment1 especially the millions who cannot read4 ,they were of that character1 of so few words1 that ,god directed them to 8bind them for a sign upon their hands1 and they shall be as a frontlet between thine eyes10 78that the ,lord's law may be in thy mouth40 ,exo4 xiii3 #i17 8and thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house1 and on thy gates40 ,num4 xv3 #ch-dj2 ,deut4 vi3 #h1 #i4 ,this1 ,god's code of ,laws was put into the ,ark4 ,deut4 x3 #e4 ,and he says that 8one law shall be to him that is home born and to the stranger that sojourneth with you40 ,exo4 xii3 #di4 ,now ,moses' code of laws was written in a book and placed in the same ark4 ,deut4 xxxi3 #bd-bf4 ,this law from the xiv4 ch4 and onwards1 and in ,lev4 was to be read to the whole assembly once in seven years2 see xxxi3 #aj-ab1 and ,neh4 viii3 #a-f4 ,six hours1 reading from morning to noon4 ,but the ten commandments as in ,exo4 xx3 #a-ag1 can be read in three minutes4 ,if you want to understand ,god's code of laws separately set forth and enforced1 see from iv4 to xiv4 of ,deut4 ,his reasons for giving them to the ,jews1 vii3 #f-h1 and x3 #bb4 ,he tells them they shall not add nor diminish from them4 ,deut4 iv3 #b4 7,mind this47 8,the man for gathering sticks 7either to kindle a fire for his comfort1 or cook some food1 ,b4 says17 was by the command stoned to death40 ,this is all supposition2 nobody knows what he gathered sticks for1 or what size they were2 he was stoned to death for it1 and so we might be now if the law of ,moses was in force4 ,let it be distinctly understood1 that ,god's code of laws1 which comprises the ten commandments1 does not forbid us to kindle fires on his ,sabbath2 nor require us to stay in our houses1 nor forbid us to assemble together to worship2 neither does it forbid us to administer to the sick on his ,sabbath1 nor do any work of absolute necessity4 ,these ,i propose to treat upon more at large1 under the head ,scriptural ,observance of the ,sabbath4 ,barnabas says1 8if the covenant is not altered1 amended nor repealed1 then it means just what it says4 #8,thou shalt not do any work1' stands out in bold relief against those who talk so much about the command1 but never yet pretend to keep it4 ,if they say they have a right to alter the phrase10 c4 ,now we answer1 that we never have attempted to alter it4 ,it is perfectly right1 and your bare assertion1 in the absence of any kind of proof1 does not1 nor ever will prove1 that we do not refrain from work on the ,sabbath1 according to the commandment1 as set forth in the ,scriptures4 ,two kinds of work are specified or inferred in the law of ,moses4 8,in the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread10 c4 ,the way this is done1 8man goeth forth to his work and to his labor until evening40 ,this of course includes from the first day to the seventh4 ,then ,sunday is the first working day of the six4 ,this is distinguished servile work1 because in ,lev4 xxiii4 chap4 and xxviii4 and xxix4 ch4 of ,numbers1 the ,lord's ,sabbath and the ,jewish ,sabbaths of holy convocations are all brought to view1 so that from the #adth day of the first month to the #bb;d1 is the feast of unleavened bread with offerings1 and fifty days from the wafe sheaf or resurrection is another4 ,see ,lev4 xxiii3 #af-ah1 and then from the first day of the #gth month until the #bc;d of the same1 viz4 #ast1 #ajth1 #aeth and #bc;d4 ,the eight last days is a continual feast4 ,now the ,sabbath of the ,lord ,god must inevitably be included in this last eight day feast of ,tabernacles2 once every year1 and very frequently on the first and tenth day ,sabbaths1 and so from the passover feast to the end of unleavened bread1 always must include the weekly ,sabbath every year2 sometimes on a feast day1 which ,john calls 8an high day40 ,now the order of these ,jewish ,sabbaths and feasts4 ,god says of them 8every thing upon his day1 besides the ,sabbaths of the ,lord10 c4 ,all the work was to be performed in these feasts1 come on what day they did1 besides the offerings on the ,sabbath of the ,lord4 ,lev4 xxiii3 #cg1 #ch4 ,well1 what was the work for every weekly ,sabbath8 ,see ,num4 xxviii3 #i1 and on ,sabbath two lambs1 besides the daily1 which was two more2 see #c;d v4 ,so we see here were always four lambs1 with the meats1 c4 offered every seventh day1 and sometimes thirty bullocks1 rams and lambs2 and in all of the ,jewish ,sabbaths except that on the tenth of the seventh month1 it is expressly said 8ye shall do no servile work therein40 ,now all this was work and labor1 but it was ceremonial worship and obedience to ,god1 hence it was not servile work4 ,it is explained in ,exo4 xii3 #af1 8,no manner of work shall be done save that which every soul must eat4 ,that only may be done40 ,what will you do with all these commands1 ,barnabas4 ,did they not have to go out of their places after ,god gave them the law from mount ,sinai8 ,did they not assemble for worship8 ,did they not prepare them food to eat1 think ye1 after the manna ceased8 and did not the ,saviour say of his disciples1 when reproached for eating corn on the ,sabbath day by the ,pharisees1 that they were guiltless8 ,was it wrong to take it without leave8 ,see ,deut4 xxiii3 #bd1 #bb4 ,was not the work of circumcision always going on every weekly ,sabbath8 ,now ,jesus being the ,lord of the ,sabbath1 shows us under the ,gospel1 where he transposes these ten commandments from the tables of stone1 and gives them in our minds and writes them on our hearts2 shows us that this work or labor on the ,sabbath1 were henceforth acts of necessity and mercy1 instead of servile work because our mode of worshipping ,god was entirely changed4 ,hence ,jesus said1 8,my ,father worketh hitherto and ,i work40 ,john v3 #ag4 ,see what kind of work1 xvii3 #d4 8,done the will of ,god1 finished his work10 after supper4 ,see also iv3 #cd1 and v3 #cf4 ,see his good works1 x3 #be1 #cb4 ,this then was the work that ,jesus and his ,father were doing1 and for these he is called a notorious ,sabbath breaker4 ,well he is now doing a marvellous work4 ,hab4 i3 #e1 yet ye will not believe4 8,it is time for the ,lord to work for men have made void thy law40 ,psl4 cxix4 ,it does not follow that men shall be put to death now for violating the ,sabbath1 any more than for violating the first1 fifth1 seventh1 or all the commandments--for the penalty of death follows the violation of every one of the commandments4 #ast commandment3 8,thou shalt have no other ,gods40 ,see ,deut4 xiii3 #f-aj and ,exo4 xxii3 #bj4 #b;d4 8,thou shalt not make any image40 ,deut4 xiii3 #ab1 #af4 #c;d4 8,thou shalt not profane my name40 ,lev4 xxiv3 #af1 #bb1 #bc4 #dth4 8,remember the ,sabbath day40 ,num4 xv3 #cb1 #cc1 #cf4 #eth4 8,honor thy father and thy mother40 ,lev4 xx3 #i4 #fth4 8,thou shalt not kill40 ,lev4 xxiv3 #ba and #ag4 #gth4 8,thou shalt not commit adultery40 ,lev4 xx3 #aj4 #hth4 8,thou shalt not steal40 ,joshua vii3 #bj1 #ba and #be4 #ith4 8,thou shalt not witness falsely40 ,deut4 xix3 #af1 #ag1 #ai1 #ba4 #ajth4 8,thou shalt not covet40 ,jos4 vii3 #bj1 #be4 ,all of the commandments together4 ,num4 xv3 #cj1 #ca2 see also ,deut4 xxviii3 #ae-fg4 ,if these were all to be enforced now1 there would be but a small remnant of the ten hundred millions now living1 left upon the earth4 ,if it is proper to enforce the fourth1 it is the whole4 ,how clear that all of these death penalties were annulled with the ,jewish dispensation4 ,when ,jesus begins to promulgate his ,gospel1 the stoning system is all broken up2 see his admirable sermon on the mount4 ,matt v3 #ch-dh4 8,ye have heard that it hath been said an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth1 but ,i say unto you that ye resist not evil1 but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek1 turn to him the other also10 c4 c4 ,here we see that all the followers of ,jesus are to be peace men1 or non-resistants1 an entire change in administering the law4 ,says ,barnabas1 this is just what ,i have been trying to make you believe1 that the law1 all of the law that the ,jews were subject to in their dispensation was abolished under the ,gospel1 for we are here under the new testament law1 7grace74 ,not quite so fast3 ,jesus forseeing such kind of teaching as this1 placed the commandments of ,god1 7on which hung all the law and the prophets17 on an immovable and fixed foundation and carried the teaching and keeping of them clear into the reign of heaven2 and any honest man who is seeking for the truth though he be ever so ignorant in other things1 will admit1 when he reads the #ag-ai1 #ba1 #bg and #cc;d verses in this chapter1 the force of this truth4 ,what an idea that ,jesus should promise such invaluable blessings to his followers after they become immortal only to mislead and tantalize them4 ,this is the tendency of your no commandment no law system4 ,why ,jesus tells you that the teachings of the bible have no other foundations to stand upon4 ,well the multitude would not believe him then as you and others will not now4 ,see what confusion and shame they suffered and bore in withering silence from his simple direction about enforcing the old law for the violation of the seventh commandment4 ,here she is master1 8,now ,moses in the law1 7not ,god's code of laws17 commanded that such should be stoned4 ,but what sayest thou80 8,let him that is without sin1 cast the first stone at her40 ,the consequence was that the woman was left without an accuser4 ,thus for once the whole multitude were convinced that the stoning system for violating the commandments was abolished4 ,see ,john vii3 #c-aa4 ,again1 you ask1 8,what type or part of the law was fulfilled by ,christ keeping the seventh day1 or in our keeping it80 ,answer--8,love is the fulfilling of the law40 8,if ye keep my commandments ye shall abide in my love1 even as ,i keep my ,father's commandments and abide in his love40 ,john xv3 #aj4 8,this is my commandment that ye love one another as ,i have loved you40 #ab verse4 ,again1 ,jesus says in ,matt4 xxii3 #cg-dj1 where he includes all of the commandments that love to ,god and love to our neighbor1 is the whole law and the prophets1 i4 e4 that this is the substance of the whole ten commandments4 ,the great one on the first table1 the second on the second table of stone4 ,paul tells the ,hebrews that the law having a shadow of good things to come cannot make the comers thereunto perfect4 ,this is the law of ,moses4 ,the ten commandments1 the law which ,god audibly gave from his own mouth1 is the one that ,jesus here refers to1 and the only one that he kept abiding in his ,father's love4 ,isaiah says1 8,he will magnify the law and make it honorable40 ,you know he dishonored the law of ,moses by abolishing sacrifices and offerings altogether1 and nailing it to his cross4 ,it appears to me that any child1 anxious for the truth1 would see this distinction4 ,but no1 you seem determined on abolishing the whole4 ,you see that ,jesus' commandment1 ,john xiii3 #cd2 xv3 #ab1 is the very essence of his ,father's and is given exclusively for the church2 but his ,father's was1 and is for the whole human family1 and the fourth contains the ,sabbath4 ,now do you see what ,jesus means when he says he came not to destroy the law but to fulfill1 and don't you understand him to1 that this law will stand after the heavens and the earth are passed away4 ,here then is how and where he fulfilled the law1 or as you ask to know1 a part of the law1 for in keeping the commandments he certainly kept the ,sabbath2 see ,mark vi3 #b1 and ,luke iv3 #af1 #ca4 ,this1 then1 is the way we fulfill the law1 by keeping the very same seventh-day ,sabbath4 ,there is but two codes of laws brought to view here1 viz4 ,god's and ,moses'4 ,don't you see here he has fulfilled the first and abolished the last4 ,you take this rule with you to your favorite texts1 viz4 ,col4 ii3 #ad-ag2 #b;d ,cor4 iii1 and ,gal4 ii4 and v41 where you say the commandments1 the law of ,god1 and the ,sabbath1 are abolished2 and you will find the same distinction4 ,god never gave ,paul1 nor you1 nor any one else1 any more liberty to preach that his law was abolished in this1 or any other way1 than he did to preach that there was no salvation for man4 ,don't you preach that man should obey the law of ,god1 and when man obeys as ,jesus did1 don't he fulfill the law8 ,can you tell how man can fulfill it without obeying the whole law8 ,you say that will bring us into circumcision4 ,how can that be1 when he has1 as ,i have just stated1 abolished all the ceremonial part of the law of ,abraham and ,moses4 ,again1 you say1 the only reason given in the bible why the ,sabbath was ever kept was1 that the ,israelites might remember that ,god brought them out of ,egypt4 ,deut4 v3 #ae4 ,your objection to the answer that was given by ,c4 ,stowe1 and reiterating the question1 as you have the above answered one1 and challenging all who desire to be under the law to prove the contrary1 in ,b4 ,a4 ,dec4 #b;d1 only goes for proof of your ignorance1 or wilfull misunderstanding of ,god's commandment4 ,if the fourth commandment in ,exo4 xx3 #aa1 as she quoted and you dissent from it1 is not the reason given why we should keep the ,sabbath on the seventh day1 as directed in the ninth and tenth verses1 then it would be impossible to understand the simple word of the ,lord4 ,because ,god has used the words 8command thee0 to keep the ,sabbath1 in ,deut4 v3 #ae1 every other word or form of speech where ,god requires the keeping of the ,sabbath1 is made void by you4 ,what is the signification of commands8 ,is it not to appoint1 enjoin1 and require by authority8 ,does it not mean the same as to say 8,remember the ,sabbath day and keep it holy40--8,thou shalt not labor or do any work on the ,sabbath day40 ,exo4 xx3 #h-aj4 ,once more1 ,god says1 8,ye shall keep the ,sabbath40 ,again1 8,wherefore the children of ,israel shall keep the ,sabbath--for a perpetual covenant4 ,for in six days the ,lord made heaven and earth1 and on the seventh day he rested and was refreshed40 xxxi3 #ad1 #af1 #ag4 ,you see the word command is also used in the #afth verse1 for the fifth commandment1 and because it is omitted in ,exo4 xx3 #ab1 according to your rule it is not valid4 ,but it is not so--,god speaks as positively and understandingly when he says 8ye shall10 as when he says 8,i command you40 ,again1 you say--8,if ,christ did not virtually annul the fourth commandment when he began his public ministry1 then the ,jews were ,,right ,,in ,,killing ,,him ,,as ,a ,,notorious ,,sabbath ,,breaker4 ,he travelled about and did much work on the ,sabbath40 ,in your second article you offer as proof ,luke iv3 #ah-bj4 ,there certainly is no proof of the law's being annulled here4 ,you then quote xvi3 #af4 8,the law and the prophets were until ,john10 c4 ,this in your whole argument for annulling the fourth commandment4 ,read the next verse1 8,and it is easier for heaven and earth to pass1 than for one tittle of the law to fail40 ,now don't a law fail when it passes away8 ,yes4 ,how then can this law fail till heaven and earth passes8 ,this was virtually showing how impossible it would be for one tittle of the law of ,god to fail4 ,here ,jesus reverts to the seventh commandment1 #ahth verse1 and shows that the law of the decalogue was what he meant4 ,but he does not say that any law was annulled here4 ,if you say that any part of the law of ,moses was abolished here1 you upset all the foundation that infidelity raises to overthrow the whole law of ,god4 ,i wonder that all the second advent editors are not out against you1 for if this be true they have no more foundation for their no-law and no-commandments of ,god system to stand upon than many who are hung on the gallows for venturing to practice after such teaching1 by violating the eighth and sixth commandment4 ,i am aware that their ,judge ,advocate1 ,joseph ,marsh of ,rochester1 ,n4 ,y4 has filed in his plea1 7see ,advent ,harbinger1 ,nov4 #ith17 that we are under the law of grace1 the new testament1 and not the law of ,moses1 which he asserts embraced the ten commandments4 ,why does not the law of grace save thieves and murderers and liars from the gallows here1 and eternal death hereafter4 7,rev4 xxi3 #h47 ,answer--because there is no precept by which it can be done out of the law of commandments1 which was made for all men1 ,jew and ,gentile4 ,how would murderers and robbers understand their sentence1 viz4 ,you are to be hung until you are dead for violating the law of the new testament1 and may the ,lord have mercy on you for violating his law of grace4 ,stop1 says the ,american1 you are bound to show me the precept4 ,i ask where it is to be found if the commandments are abolished8 ,oh1 sir1 but you have violated the spirit of them4 ,well1 but do tell me1 sir1 how ,i have violated the spirit of a law that you say was abolished and forever done away more than eighteen hundred years ago4 ,i am ignorant1 ,i never professed religion1 ,i do not understand the meaning of grace in the new testament--,i pray you1 sir1 don't hang an innocent man4 ,i have already shown what they tell us that their foundation is for the abolition of ,god's law2 it is in ,gal4 ii42 ,cor4 iii1 and ,col4 ii3 #ad-ag4 ,the very day that our ,lord was nailed to the cross--7every writer that ,i remember to have read before on this subject begins at the cross1 where ,paul directs us to look for the abolition of offerings and oblation1 ,moses' ceremonial mode of worship7--but you have attempted1 without proof1 to show that this was done three years before1 and that without a shadow of proof that the fourth commandment1 or any of them1 was done away4 ,in this second article1 you cite us for the same proof to ,col4 ii3 #h-ag4 ,how unfortunate for your argument2 first that ,christ annulled the law1 and of course the ,sabbath1 when he began to preach1 according to ,luke iv3 #ah-bj1 and xvi3 #af4 ,and then in another place quote ,col4 ii3 #h-ag1 for the same point of time4 ,how could ,christ annul any law twice4 ,first1 at his preaching and second at his death1 three and a half years apart4 ,your argument is groundless and futile2 therefore the uncalled for blasphemous language of yours1 that the ,jews were right in killing him 7the ,son of ,god7 as a notorious ,sabbath breaker1 will fall on your guilty head4 ,hear the proof3 8,they that forsake the law praise the wicked4--,he that turneth away his ear from hearing the law1 even his prayer shall be abomination40 ,see also ,james ii3 #aj4 ,once more1 the law that ,jesus says shall not pass away1 c4 ,luke xvi3 #ag1 is proved to be the same as in ch4 x3 #be-bh4 ,jesus says1 how readest thou8 what is written in the law8 ,he answers by quoting the two great commandments in the law1 in ,matt4 xxii3 #cf-dj--the same as given in ch4 v3 #ag-ai1 the keeping of which then and thenceforward would make them of great esteem in the reign of heaven4 ,compare also xix3 #af-ai with ,luke xviii3 #ah-bj4 ,if ,jesus' promise of eternal life by our keeping the law of--or1 and commandments fails us here1 then all his new testament teaching1 the 8law of grace10 so termed1 will fail with it4 ,in conclusion1 you call us foolish adventists1 and wish to know who has bewitched us8 ,answer--not the strictly keeping the holy ,sabbath and other commandments1 but by listening to1 or following such unrighteous and deceptive teachings as you set forth4 ,no marvel that you would like to preach it in all the sectarian synagogues in the land1 if they would hear you4 ,fallen ,babylon is a more suitable place for such teaching than you will ever find any where else4 ,john describes their condition1 ,rev4 xviii3 #b4 ,but ,i pass4 ,there is but one more remark of yours that ,i deem worthy of a reply1 and ,i should not most probably have reviewed your articles1 only for the defence of ,god's law and the suffering little flock1 my brethren1 who are endeavoring to stand where ,john1 in his vision1 saw them at this present hour1 viz4 ,in their patient waiting time1 8keeping the commandments of ,god and the faith of ,jesus40 ,you say1 8,if a tree may be known by its fruits1 we have a woeful tree here4 ,first1 shut door2 next1 seventh-day ,sabbath1 or the bondage of the law2 next1 ,oh1 it would be a shame to speak of those things which are done of them in secret4 ,god grant them repentance which is unto life40 ,that we believe in the shut door1 and seventh-day ,sabbath1 is true2 that we wash one another's feet1 as ,jesus taught1 and greet one another as ,paul has taught1 is true of a great portion of those who keep the ,sabbath and believe in the past and present truth4 ,if you mean these1 that it be a shame to speak of1 we answer that we do it openly and avowedly1 and teach and practice the same wherever we go1 and prove it clearly by the scriptures4 ,if there is any thing secretly practiced by us1 it is as much unknown to the church as it is to you4 ,the days of ,j4 ,turner and some other leaders of fanaticism in ,maine1 ,i trust1 have about all subsided1 since they have crawled into the ,laodocean state of the church4 ,if you know of any thing that we secretly practice in our worship or service of ,god1 that which is a shame to us1 we are not unwilling for you to make it as public as you please4 ,we have no faith nor fellowship for any such thing1 neither have we any claim on them4 ,as the editor of the ,bible ,advocate and yourself are aiming at the one object1 viz4 the abolition of ,god's holy ,sabbath1 and the treading down ,god's truth seeking children2 he is approbating and upholding you in your disguise2 we are therefore left to conjecture4 ,from some marks which ,i have seen under your two coverings1 ,i am very strongly inclined to believe that your real name is ,jacob ,weston of ,new ,ipswich1 ,n4 ,h4 ,if ,i am wrong1 then what ,i am about to state will not apply to ,barnabas4 ,if ,i am right in the real character1 then ,i shall discharge another duty by exposing an enemy to both ,god and man1 under the cloak of the apostle ,barnabas1 and beneath that a sheepskin laced round the body of a ,,wolf1 8speaking great words against the most high1 thinking to change times and laws40 ,your unrighteous thrusts1 to put down and destroy ,god's honest children1 who are endeavoring to live by every word of ,god1 seems to be in perfect keeping with your wayward1 backslidden course4 ,it is you1 sir1 that have been practising things in secret1 which are a shame1 and a disgrace1 and a stigma upon the cause which you profess4 ,now lay off that apostolic cloak which you have taken to cover your deformed and deceptive arts4 ,the reason why you have assumed this garb to oppose your opponent1 ,c4 ,stowe1 is to some very obvious4 ,you knew that she was acquainted with some of your ungodly proceedings4 ,you had not forgotten the false promises and pretences which you had resorted to1 first1 to obtain her money1 and then to keep her out of it4 ,after repeated calls for it1 you at length sent it to her1 stating that the reason why you did not answer her letters1 was1 because you had not the money1 and you did not write her1 because it would subject her to pay the postage1 as you could not6 and then in an insulting manner to dictate a letter1 teaching her how she should write to you4 ,after this squall had blown over and things had become more settled1 a mysterious letter is presented to sister ,stowe1 signed ,lydia ,b4 ,weston1 setting forth your helpless condition--not actually asking for money1 because it would not comport with her severe remark about 8dying first10--but to draw still more on her sympathy1 it states that her husband had fell and lamed1 or sprained his ancle1 c4 c4 ,sister ,s41 although about forty miles from this scene of suffering and distress1 requested a friend and neighbor of yours to ascertain what was needed1 and she was ready to assist1 notwithstanding all the past4 ,your house was visited and inquiry made for the lame man1 but he was away4 8,well1 you have heard from ,washington80 ,your wife4 ,l4 ,b4 ,weston1 replied1 8she did not know how80 ,another statement is1 8have you heard from ,washington80 8,no40 8,have you not written to ,washington80 7or sister ,stowe47 8,no40 ,the messenger was much surprised6 8,well1 are you in need of any thing840 8,no1 we have all that we need at present60 and she then proceeded to enumerate all the comfortable things she had4 ,from this it is evident that your wife was an entire stranger to this letter and its contents4 ,who wrote this forged letter8 ,the capitals1 it was said by those who examined it1 were ,j4 ,weston's1 but the hand-writing was rather finer than his4 ,when you have been told of this your reply has been that sister ,stowe lies if she says that ,i wrote that letter6 ,it is all in vain for you to reiterate such assertions4 ,the question is1 where is the person in ,new ,ipswich1 whose hand-writing will compare with this letter1 and who is so interested in your behalf that they will even contradict your wife1 who manages your household affairs2 and state falsehoods1 and then commit the high crime of ,,forgery1 by affixing her name to their assertions1 to obtain for you what you did not need2 and among other things1 what could they mean by lying so about your lame leg8 ,if you can find this daring1 loving1 and insultingly magnanimous person in your neighborhood1 do1 for the sake of the community at large1 expose him1 and let this sister and others whom you have maligned1 have their real name4 ,and then if you go to ,nelson again1 to preach the doctrine of the second advent by a notice in the ,bible ,advocate of ,july #cjth1 or ,aug4 #eth1 8,squire ,hale will not refuse you the use of the meeting house1 because of said forgery40 ,and possibly they may then sympathise with you more in respect to your poverty in having but one feather bed in your house1 c4 c41 when it is well known that you have three1 and other things in proportion4 ,that must have been rather a stirring exhortation that you gave the man who called to see you1 a short time since2 that the ,lord was coming in about three weeks4 ,did you cite him to the ,bible ,advocate of ,dec4 #i1 and tell him to read the caption that your old friend ,timothy ,cole had published for you2 that the time for the ,lord's coming was revealed1 and that you felt so impressed with the truth of the above that you could not hold your peace any longer1 c4 ,well1 possibly he did feel the force of the truth1 that the ,lord would soon come1 but it soon vanished from him when you read the note for twenty dollars1 in his favor1 which he now presented1 and which you told him was not negotiable1 and that there was no law by which he could collect it4 ,did you not feel rather singular1 for a professed ambassador of ,christ1 to be told by this man 8how strange it appeared to him that you should go and put such a note on to an old woman40 ,this is an old lady1 partially deranged1 who having a little money1 finally consented to loan it to him on a note for interest4 ,it seems you had consulted a lawyer1 to know whether it could be collected in her life time for her4 ,are you aware of the heinousness of these things8 ,did you ever read the life of the pious ,dr4 ,dod of ,england1 who was hung for forgery2 people no doubt liked his preaching4 ,i know a professed minister1 who1 not many years since1 was elected pastor of a church1 with but two or three dissenting votes1 in a place situated in ,north latitude #da #cc'1 and longitude #gj #ec' ,w41 who was told by one of his members1 in a church meeting1 that he had committed the high crime of forgery1 which he did not attempt to deny4 ,the member for daring to utter this and connected things1 was suspended from their communion until he should make ample satisfaction4 ,the minister was retained1 and a great revival1 by his exertions1 immediately followed1 and numbers were added to their church4 ,so1 you see1 ministers are not to be known by their great preaching and revivals4 8,ye shall know them by their fruits40 ,so1 ,i trust1 the second advent believers will know you hereafter4 ,they will also know that ,god never employed a righteous man to stigmatize and attempt to make void his ,sabbath and commandments4 ,that is1 and ever has been1 the work of 8the ,devil and his angels40 8,surely the ,lord ,god will do nothing but he reveals his secrets unto his servants1 the prophets40 ,amos4 ,but 8he that turneth away his ear from hearing the law1 even his prayer shall be abomination40 ,all men are liable to err and make mistakes1 but when persevered in1 under disguise1 they are to be rebuked4 ,,to ,,the ,,editor ,,of ,,the 8,,advent ,,harbinger40 ,,sir3--,after your repeated and unsuccessful attempts to stigmatize1 put down1 demolish1 and forever abolish the ,,ten ,,words1 the law and commandments of the living ,god1 the only foundation for the bible1 you come forth in the ,a4 ,h4 of ,nov4 #ith1 and say 8,we are not under the law 7of ,moses17 but under 7the law of7 grace1 the ,new ,testament1 and now all we want to know is1 does the ,,new ,,testament either by precept or example require us to keep ,,any day as a ,,sabbath8444 ,we do not want your inferences1 but plain1 direct ,,new ,,testament testimony2 nothing else will do in a case of this character and importance40 ,your term1 law of ,moses1 according to all your teachings on this subject1 includes the law of commandments4 ,we have given it to you in our work on the ,sabbath1 and again in the ,way ,marks1 pp4 #gf-gh4 ,why do you still continue to demand proof1 until you have found out some new method to explain those texts away4 ,it is evident that your object on this point is to confuse the minds of your readers and not give them the clear word of ,god4 ,what would ,christ and his apostles have done for proof from the old testament1 if your new restricted rule had been laid before them8 and you had told them seven months previous1 7,april #bhth17 that the law of commandments1 when they were abolished1 were incorporated into the new testament1 or law of ,christ4 ,and now we are under the law of grace4 ,it appears to me that ,jesus would have replied as he did on one occasion1 8,get thee behind me ,satan40 ,is the law of ,christ and the law of grace1 synonymous terms8 or are you so privileged now in the high station which you have assumed1 that you can change the name of your ,,new ,,law once in seven months1 and make ,christ and grace the same4 ,it is impossible for any man to depart from the clear word and abide in the truth4 ,call the commandments of ,god what you will1 and incorporate them where you will1 you are bound1 as ,i have told you before1 to show the precept1 7i4 e4 how they read17 and then if you refer us to the teachings of ,jesus and his apostles1 and the ,revelation of ,john1 you will only point us directly to the ten commandments of ,god1 which as clearly proves that they are not1 nor ever have been abolished1 any more than the prophecies of ,isaiah1 ,jeremiah or ,ezekiel2 and just so sure as ,jesus has spoken the truth1 that eternal life is obtained by the keeping of them1 and that ,james wrote by inspiration1 we are to be judged by them2 and not by what you have misnamed them1 the law of grace4 ,how can the commandments of ,god be abolished1 and yet the keeping of them give us an entrance into the city4 ,rev4 xxii3 #ad4 ,and yet if they are abolished1 as you assert1 who can ever know when they fail in one precept or when they keep the whole8 ,your attempt to incorporate ,god's law1 after--as you say--it has been abolished1 and now enforce it without a precept1 because it is all incorporated in the new testament1 is a thousand times more inconsistent than a temporal millenium4 8,grace is the gift of ,god40 ,then1 according to your logic1 this is the law that we are now under4 ,how shall we enumerate all the gifts of ,god1 and incorporate them into the new testament8 ,one thing ,i know1 you will never mend the law of ,god3 ,it is as immutable as the sun in the heavens6 and it would be far easier work for you and all of like faith to blot out that luminary than to prove that one jot or tittle of the ten commandments had failed by being changed or abolished4 ,i intend to prove this from the new testament as ,i pass on1 and if you and your adherents will still misrepresent the plain teaching and lead others to do so1 then the words of ,jesus will surely condemn you1 and you 8will be in no esteem in the reign of heaven40 ,first ,pillar ,for ,no ,sabbath4 ,there are four ,pillars in the temple of your no-,sabbath1 no-commandment system1 which we are always referred to as positive proof that you are right4 ,now if ,i can prove from the new testament that they and all others that you may present1 are only your 8inferences10 7and you say you don't want any17 what will you do8 ,further--these pillars of yours1 be it forever remembered and never forgotten1 are fixed at the day of the crucifixion of our ,lord4 ,say1 if you like1 it was in ,a4,d4 #cc4 ,this is the point where you have to bring your scripture to prove any thing of the kind1 i4 e41 if you go one week on either side of the death of our blessed ,lord1 your arguments or pillars1 all fall to the ground4 ,now1 by this plain rule1 we will try the first two no-,sabbath texts3 ,first--#a ,rom4 xiv3 8,one man esteemeth one day above another1 another esteemeth every day alike2 let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind4 ,he that regardeth the day1 regardeth it unto the ,lord40 ,read the whole chapter2 ,paul's whole argument here is against their feasts1 and this of course included their feast days1 which some esteemed and others did not4 8,destroy not him with thy meat for whom ,christ died10 says ,paul1 #aeth verse4 ,compare this with the first1 third1 and last four verses1 where he closes with 8,he that doubteth is damned if he eat1 because he eateth not of faith10 #bc;d verse1 and then tell me if you can1 what other day or days is here brought to view than feast days1 as in ,lev4 xxiii chapter1 which ,hosea said were to cease4 ,this same chapter1 #c;d and #chth verses1 positively designates and separates the ,sabbath of the ,lord ,god from all these feast ,sabbaths1 or days2 also ,num4 xxviii3 #i4 ,now as ,god's ,sabbath was not a feast ,sabbath1 it was impossible to connect it with these4 ,and that is not all--it is not even alluded to here--only guessed at from among the feast days4 ,once set such a rule as this at work and there is not a law in christendom that would restrain men4 ,for all will have one day for a holy1 or holiday in the week4 ,now give them1 by your bible rule1 their choice1 and ,i don't believe that ,satan himself would bring them to order4 ,oh1 but we have a law that the first-day shall be regarded as the ,sabbath4 ,well1 that is what you now contend for1 and so does almost all christendom1 and still it is an unrighteous and an unscriptural law1 because the first day is not1 nor never was1 the ,sabbath4 ,you have no right by this rule to fix on any day1 and yet every body would be right if every day was kept4 ,but1 you may say1 it means we shall have no day for the ,sabbath4 ,it does not read so4 ,it says1 8let every man be persuaded in his own mind10 and if that were the case1 what kind of order would there be in ,god's house4 ,i ask if there be a rational being on earth that for a moment would believe that ,god ever intended to give the whole human family such a choice as this1 after he had required them to keep the ,sabbath day4 ,no1 he is a ,god of order1 and he sanctified and set apart the seventh day for man and beast4 ,does not the beast require rest now as much as he did #aijj years ago8 ,who is to advocate for them1 if man does not8 ,the great mass of professed christians are insisting on the first day for one of these days1 and it is not at all likely that they would ever refer to this test for this purpose were it not to destroy the idea of a seventh-day ,sabbath4 ,see work on the ,sabbath1 pp4 #aa-ab4 ,this subject is continued from the xiiith chapter1 where the apostle had been enforcing the commandments1 and one is equally binding as the other1 except the fourth1 which is more insisted upon than the rest4 ,this letter is dated ,corinthus1 ,a4,d4 #fj4 ,second ,pillar ,for ,no ,sabbath4 ,col4 ii3 #ad-ag4--8;,blotting out the hand writing of ordinances that was against us2 which was contrary to us1 taking it out of the way2 nailing it to his cross40 ,now ,paul says it was the hand-writing of ordinances that was blotted out4 ,you say it was the ,sabbath1 because he further says1 8,let no man therefore judge you in meat1 or in drink1 or in respect of an holy day1 or of the new moon1 or of the ,sabbath days1 which are a shadow of things to come10 c4 ,now ,i say that the ,sabbath of the ,lord ,god is not included in this text4 #ast4 ,because it never did belong to the hand-writing of ordinances4 #b;d4 ,it never is called an ordinance in the scriptures2 it is a commandment4 #c;d4 ,god's ,sabbath never was taken out of our way because it was against us4 ,jesus says it was made for us1 7for man47 ,then pray tell me1 if you can1 why ,jesus has taken away from us the very thing1 7the ,sabbath7 he had said was made for us8 ,you see this is impossible2 but he did take away at the very hour that he yielded up his life1 the ceremonial worship of sacrifice and oblation1 because his blood was now shed once for all for the whole world1 therefore the shedding of bullocks blood1 here at this hour1 ceased forever2 see also ,heb4 x3 #a-aj1 particularly the #ith verse4 ,the angel ,gabriel's testimony is directly to this point2 ,dan4 ix3 #bg4 ,therefore the mode of worshipping ,god1 in the law of ,moses1 ceased forever4 ,but all of this no more affected ,god's code of laws1 the ten commandments1 than the shining of the sun would upon the inhabitants of ,massachusetts after he had gone down below the western horizon4 ,the 8hand-writing of ordinances0 is what ,moses wrote with his hand in a book and put it into the ark with the tables of stone3 which tables were not the hand-writing of either ,god1 or man1 but written by the finger of ,god4 ,deut4 xxxi3 #be-bf4 ,neither can it ever be proved that ,god's law on these tables of stone1 was a shadow--it is a substance4 ,paul says the things that were nailed to the cross here1 were shadows2 see #agth verse4 ,now if the ,lord's ,sabbath1 the fourth commandment1 was taken out here1 and forever erased from the tables of stone--where is the evidence8 ,further1 if it was a shadow1 as you say1 would not all the other nine commandments be shadows too8 ,see if you can make the first and second ones1 shadows2 if you can1 the worship of idols is just as valid as the worship of ,god2 and so of the third--where would be the penalty of taking ,god's name in vain1 or to steal1 or murder1 or commit adultery8 ,you see the idea itself is ridiculous4 ,i know you say the spirit of them is as binding as ever4 ,i ask how are we to know what the spirit of any thing is1 without the precept 7the letter7 to guide us8 ,it is impossible for any human being to know that it is wrong to worship idols and bow down to them unless it read so in the scriptures4 ,if the apostle has taught it so1 he has quoted from the decalogue4 ,thus you see the commandments can no more be abolished than salvation4 ,in the #bj-bb;d verses1 ,paul further explains1 and says1 8,why are ye subject to ordinances which are to perish80 ,why perish8 because 8they are after the doctrines and commandments of men40 8,touch not1 taste not1 handle not40 ,now1 if these are not the ordinance of the ceremonial law1 the hand-writing of ,moses1 they are nothing2 see also ,eph4 ii3 #ae1 and ,heb4 vii3 #af4 ,the holy day1 new moon and ,sabbath days were their holy convocation1 which1 with the new moon and ,sabbaths is the same that is connected with their feasts1 as in ,rom4 xiv1 and as distinctly separate1 as ,i have shown in ,lev4 xxiii3 #c1 #ch1 and ,num4 xxviii3 #i4 ,now ,i say ,god's law containing the ,sabbath is not even mentioned here4 ,their ,sabbath days1 and not ,god's ,sabbath days is here abolished2 as ,hosea said they should be1 ii3 #aa4 ,it would be far more reasonable to assert that ,paul had abolished all the ordinances in #bj-bb verses4 ,but who undertakes to say that baptism and the ,lord's ,supper are abolished here4 ,nobody4 ,why8 ,because neither of them are the hand-writing of ordinances1 but they are equally as much so1 and as certainly made for us as the ,sabbath is4 ,jesus says it was made for man4 ,you say it was made for the ,jews only4 ,shall the scriptures decide this1 8,,man that is born of a woman is of few days and full of trouble40 8,,man dieth and wasteth away2 yea1 ,,man giveth up the ghost and where is he--,so ,,man lieth down and riseth not till the heavens be no more40--,job4 8,and as it is appointed unto ,,man once to die1 but after this the judgment40--,paul4 ,now just as certain as the ,jews and ,gentiles are the 8man0 alluded to here1 just in the same sense and no other1 is he alluded to by ,jesus in ,mark ii3 #bg--8,the ,sabbath was made for ,,man10--,jew and ,gentile1 for every living human being4 ,therefore it is impossible1 yea it is a contradiction of terms to say that the ,sabbath of the ,lord ,god1 which was made for man1 just as much as the day of judgment is to judge him1 was taken out of his way1 because it was contrary to him1 and against him1 or that the ,sabbath is an ordinance or a shadow1 but all the seven ,jewish convocation ,sabbaths that were nailed to the cross1 were shadows1 as in ,heb4 x3 #a-aj4 ,the woman was also made for man1 in the same sense4 ,see how your rule will work here4 ,this letter is from ,rome1 ,a4 ,d4 #fd4 ,third ,pillar ,for ,no-,sabbath1 ,no-,commandments4 ,gal4 ii4-vi4 chapters4 ,here we are told that the whole law and commandments are abolished4 ,i say the man was never yet born that can prove it4 ,you say 8we want none of your inferences40 ,neither do we want yours1 unless you can back them up by scripture testimony4 ,paul begins with the ,gospel2 in his second chapter he brings up the law of circumcision1 and goes on to show that it is abolished4 ,just look at the #gth and #hth verses1 where he begins his argument1 and then #aa-adth4 ,his controversy with ,peter respecting this point and eating1 meets2 then the #afth1 #ahth and #bast verses show again most clearly that he is contrasting the ,gospel of ,christ with this law of meats and circumcision4 ,he now passes through the #c;d chapter1 7so much relied on for the abolition of all law17 without intimating any other law whatever4 ,in the #dth chapter1 #dth verse1 he says1 ,god sent forth his son1 made1 or born under the law4 ,what law8 ,answer--the law of ,moses4 ,there is not an intimation of the law of commandments here2 neither is there an intimation in ,god's law1 relating to ,jesus1 but there is in ,moses'4 ,in the #ajth verse he begins again1 and says 8yea1 observe days and months and times and years40 ,these are the same feast days that ,i have been treating of in the two first ,pillars1 viz4 ,rom4 xiv4 and ,col4 ii41 for when he comes to the #bast verse1 he says again1 8tell me ye that desire to be under the law1 do ye not hear the law40 ,what is it8 ,why1 ,abraham had two sons1 one by his bond maid1 ,hagar1 the other by ,sarah1 his wife4 ,these two women represent the two covenants4 ,hagar represents mount ,sinai1 where ,god gave the first covenant4 ,hagar also answers to the present ,jerusalem1 now in bondage2 ,sarah represents the second covenant1 7which gives entrance into the7 ,new ,jerusalem4 ,see #i4 ,in the fifth chapter he begins again with circumcision1 #b;d and #c;d verses4 ,in the #dth verse he says1 8,whosoever of you are justified by the law are fallen from grace40 ,this is the law of circumcision2 see #fth and #aath verses3 8,if ,i yet preach circumcision1 why do ,i yet suffer persecution40 ,now see the contrast at the close of his argument4 ,here is the law of ,god2 see #adth verse3 8,for all the law is fulfilled in one word1 even this1 thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself40 ,this was his very expression to the ,romans1 four years previous2 see xiii3 #i4 ,here he has cited them to the second table of stone in ,god's law1 in respect to their neighbor1 which is alone1 the clear meaning2 and we are saved by 8keeping the commandments of ,god and faith of ,jesus40--,rev4 xii3 #ab2 xxii3 #ad4 ,paul did not stop to explain about these two covenants1 but merely alluded to them to show the two entirely different modes of worship under the two dispensations4 ,his letter to the ,hebrews six years afterwards1 explains1 8,now the first covenant had ceremonies of divine service and a worldly sanctuary10 ix3 #a4 ,now the covenant ,,itself was in the ark2 see #dth verse4 ,now these rites and ceremonies which stood in meats and drinks1 c4 were carnal ordinances1 a figure for the time then present1 until the reformation1 or coming of the new covenant4 ,not a syllable about the fourth commandment in #dth verse being a figure1 or ordinance or ceremony1 or being done away4 ,why8 ,because in the preceding chapter1 #f-ajth verses1 he shows is the new or second covenant1 which was to succeed the first1 and ,jesus was to be the mediator of it4 ,now the first covenant was the ten commandments1 with ceremonies1 c4 ,the second covenant is 7my laws7 the same ten commandments1 7not as before1 on tables of stone17 but in our minds and on our hearts2 #ajth verse4 ,connected with this is the testimony of ,jesus ,christ--proof1 ,rev4 xii3 #ag2 xix3 #aj1 and xiv3 #ab4 ,this is the ,new1 or ,gospel ,covenant1 which ,jesus ,christ came to confirm4 ,then all that was nailed to the cross was the ceremonial law1 the ,jewish mode of worshipping ,god4 ,the first covenant the law of ,god1 is here transcribed from the tables of stone and placed on our hearts2 see ,rom4 ii3 #ae3 ,heb4 viii3 #aj4 ,this entirely changes the mode of worship1 and shows us 8without faith it is impossible to please ,god40 ,if the law of ,god is not the same in both covenants1 with ,jew and ,gentile1 tell me if you can the chapter and verse for the second1 or new law of ,god4 ,it is the very same that ,jesus had given in ,matt4 xxii3 #ci2 the last six commandments4 ,here he closes this chapter by contrasting the works of the flesh with the fruits of the spirit1 and then in the #fth chapter1 #abth1 #acth and #aeth verses1 he alludes again to circumcision1 and says1 in #aeth verse1 8,for in ,christ ,jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing nor uncircumcision10 c41 showing conclusively that the great burthen of his argument from first to last1 was to abolish circumcision and vindicate ,god's law1 instead1 as you and your adherents will have it1 abolish the commandments in the law4 ,i say then in the #eth chapter1 #adth verse1 he has positively taught us that the law of ,god was untouched in his argument4 ,suppose we take his letter to the ,romans1 to explain how he sustains this law4 8,if there be any other commandment it is briefly comprehended in this saying1 namely1 thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself40 xiii3 #i4 8,therefore love is the fulfilling of the law40 ,in the first place he is here showing us our duty to our neighbor1 7not to ,god71 #h-aj verses--for he has quoted only five of the commandments from the second table of stone4 ,will you say that because he omitted the fifth one1 it is abolished2 see his letter to the ,ephesians1 four years after this3 8,honor thy father and thy mother1 which is the first commandment1 with promise10 vi3 #b4 ,now ,paul has here quoted from the tables of stone1 and this is proof positive that these six are not abolished4 ,but because he has not quoted the first four1 will you say they are abolished8 ,if you say they are1 then you make void the ,saviour's words in ,matt4 xxii3 #cg1 #ch2 and also ,paul's in the #gth chapter1 #abth verse1 where he says 8the law is holy and the commandments holy1 just and good40 ,again1 because ,jesus1 in ,matt4 v3 #ai1 #ba1 #bg1 #cc1 only quoted the #c;d1 #fth and #gth commandments1 are the other seven abolished8 ,if so1 how strange that he should add three more1 respecting love to our neighbor1 in chapter xix3 #ah1 #ai1 viz4 the #eth1 #hth and #ith4 ,and in the #aeth chapter quote only one4 ,further1 because he never mentioned the fourth commandment separately1 you would have us believe there is none--he abolished it4 ,then1 by the same rule he abolished the first1 second1 and tenth1 for he has not mentioned them4 ,in this case ,paul has taught heresy1 for he has mentioned the tenth commandment twice in ,romans4 ,paul nowhere speaks of the first four commandments1 but he quotes the other six4 ,james only quotes two1 the sixth and seventh1 for his perfect royal law of liberty1 by which man is to be judged2 but that we might not misunderstand that he meant what he said1 that it was a perfect law1 including the whole ten1 he declares that 8if we fail with respect to one precept1 we become guilty of all40 ,here you1 and all of like faith1 must see the fallacy of your reasoning1 which is1 that because the fourth commandment has not been distinctly expressed1 then there is no ,sabbath4 ,i say1 by your rule1 it is just as clear that ,jesus and ,paul never taught us that we should not worship images1 and bow down to idols1 for they have never quoted us the precept4 ,but they both have taught us the whole law and commandments2 see ,matt4 xxii3 #cf-dj2 ,luke x3 #be-bh2 ,rom4 vii3 #ab2 #ast ,cor4 vii3 #ai4 ,the reason1 no doubt1 why ,jesus never quoted the #ast1 #b;d1 #c;d and #dth commandments separately was because he never had occasion to use them for an argument with his hearers4 ,now this certainly explains ,paul's meaning in ,gal4 v3 #ad1 8,for all the law is fulfilled in one word1 even in this1 thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself40 ,that is--this is the law respecting our duty to one another1 as ,jesus has taught us in ,matt4 xxii4 ,this1 then1 is the law from the decalogue4 ,paul says this law is fulfilled by keeping it1 while that which was added to the law 7or covenant7 is abolished2 see ,heb4 ix4 ,then here the law of ,god is established1 and not1 as you say1 abolished4 ,this letter is dated at ,rome1 ,a4,d4 #eh4 ,fourth ,and ,last ,pillar ,for ,no-,sabbath1 ,no-,commandments4 #b;d ,cor4 iii4 ,here a host of second advent believers join in with you1 and labor to prove that ,paul has certainly and positively abolished the commandments of ,god4 ,yes1 one of your old correspondents1 ,g4 ,needham1 of ,albany1 has publicly declared to the world that ,god told him so4 ,now if ,i prove him to have uttered a positive falsehood1 ,i suppose he will still be considered in good standing1 as a second advent lecturer and coadjutor in carrying forward this work of heresy4 ,if ,god ever told him any thing about this text1 he did not contradict ,paul1 who spake by the ,holy ,ghost4 ,the principal verses to sustain this heresy1 are #g1 #h1 #aa1 #ac1 #adth1 8,but if the ministration of death1 written and engraven in stones1 was glorious1 so that the children of ,israel could not steadfastly behold the face of ,moses for the glory of his countenance1 which glory was to be done away1 how shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious8444 ,for if that which is done away is glorious1 much more that which remaineth is glorious4444 ,and as ,moses which put a veil over his face1 that the children of ,israel could not steadfastly look to the end of that which is abolished4 ,but their minds were blinded1 for until this day remaineth the same veil1 untaken away in the reading of the old testament1 which veil is done away in ,christ40 ,now every bible student must admit that ,paul was contrasting the ministration of the ,jewish nation with that of his own1 the ,gospel ministration1 7#aath v47 under the two dispensations4 ,if ,moses' ministry was glorious1 then is the ,gospel much more so4 ,now that which was to be done away was not the decalogue itself1 the ten commandments1 but the ministration of it1 which was emblematically illustrated by the glory of ,moses' countenance1 which was only for the time being4 ,this clause refers expressly to the glory of his countenance1 and not to the glory of the law on the tables of stone4 ,so also the clause1 8that which is abolished10 does not refer to the decalogue1 but to the ministration of ,moses1 including what he writes to the ,heb4 ix3 #i-aa1 and x3 #a-aj2 see particularly #ith verse3 8,he taketh away the first that he may establish the second40 ,how8 ,answer--8,i will put my law 7the same law of the ten commandments7 in their inward parts1 and write it in their hearts40 viii3 #aj1 #e-i4 ,again1 8we are not without law to ,god1 but under the law to ,christ40 ,this certainly is the same law and so is the following1 8,do we make void the law through faith8 ,god forbid ye1 we establish the law40 ,it is impossible for this to be the law of ceremonies in ,moses' ministration1 for that was nailed to the cross1 certainly twenty-five years before4 ,here then it is plain1 as in ,heb4 ix3 #d1 that the tables of stone1 on which was the whole law of ,god1 remained unmoved1 to be written on our hearts4 ,no other law of ,god can be found for this purpose4 ,the #adth verse says1 8which veil was done away in ,christ40 ,again1 if the commandments were done away here1 how could those 8who teach them be of great esteem in the reign of heaven20 and how could they teach them without knowing the words from the decalogue8 8,the law of grace and the law of ,christ0 would darken counsel without knowledge4 ,if the tables of stone were done away here1 where are the commandments referred to so many times in the new testament for us to keep1 and how useless for ,christ to come at the first advent and write them in our hearts1 if they were not to be kept4 ,now this epistle is dated at ,phillippi1 ,a4,d4 #fj2 twenty-seven years after the crucifixion4 ,the date of the other three ,pillars1 as stated1 are1 #ast1 ,rom4 xiv3 #e1 #f1 ,corinthus1 ,a4,d4 #fj4 #b;d1 ,col4 ii3 #ad-ag1 ,rome1 ,a4,d4 #fd4 #c;d1 ,gal4 ii-vi41 ,rome1 ,a4,d4 #eh4 ,now remember what ,i stated before1 that if the commandments or ,sabbath ever were abolished1 the proof is contained in these four principal texts or ,pillars1 and it was all done at the crucifixion or death of ,jesus2 see ,col4 ii3 #aa1 8nailing it to the cross10 7in ,a4,d4 #cc74 ,now ,paul's first letter to the ,corinthians was dated at the same place one year before his second letter1 ,a4,d4 #ei4 ,here he says1 chapter vii3 #ai1 8circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing but the keeping of the commandments of ,god40 ,again1 we will now go to the chapter to which you exultingly point your readers1 for the abolition of this same law and commandments1 viz4 ,rom4 vii3 #f1 8,but now we are delivered from the law10 c4 ,what law8 ,answer--the very same that you have had to make your four ,pillars of1 viz4 the law of ,moses1 the ,jewish ritual4 8,what shall we say then1 is the law sin80 ,you say it is4 ,paul says1 8,god forbid10 and he quotes the tenth commandment to prove it2 #gth verse1 and then in the #abth directs us to the whole law of ,god1 thus--8,,wherefore ,,the ,,law ,,is ,,holy1 ,,and ,,the ,,commandments ,,holy1 ,,just ,,and ,,good40 ,now1 ,i say1 here is testimony that all the opposers of ,god's law cannot impeach1 and it utterly demolishes and overthrows every idea that has been presented for the last fifteen hundred years against the whole ten commandments and law of ,god4 ,it nails the point down twenty-seven years after the ,jewish rites and ceremonials in the law of ,moses were nailed to the cross1 as you and all of your faith say it was1 and fully and clearly sustains all the scriptural arguments herein presented1 as in ,rom4 iii3 #ca2 xiii3 #h-aj1 same year1 and ,gal4 v3 #ad1 two years before1 and ,eph4 vi3 #b1 six years after4 ,you may object to these dates4 ,if they could be altered and carried back twenty years1 it would not help your case1 for without any date1 a child might know that ,paul was not even converted to ,christianity until years after the ceremonial law was nailed to the cross4 ,you may contradict ,paul if you will1 and call out all your professed second advent adherents and brethren1 7whom you say will not see much of any difference on this subject after they have examined the new testament17 and they will not in the least strengthen your arguments unless ,g4 ,needham should come out again and publicly declare that ,god also told him that ,paul's testimony respecting his law and commandments1 was not to be credited4 ,and this he can as readily establish as he can his first blasphemous assertion4 ,you might still go on and contradict ,james' perfect1 royal law of liberty1 whose testimony is to the same point and in the same year1 and tell ,john the beloved disciple also1 whose testimony is thirty years beyond ,james'1 that he ought to have called his old commandment1 which he received from the ,,father1 8which ye have heard from the beginning10 7#ast ,john ii3 #g1 and #b;d epistle1 #d-f verses47 8,the law of grace40 because that would eventually be the right name that you should give them in #ahdg1 after you had been designated one of the two great reformers in the world1 to give light on the second coming of ,christ1 and so make him and ,james1 who had heard their ,lord declare that he had kept his ,father's commandments2 and ,luke and ,matthew testifying to his declaration that 8the law and the prophets hung upon them10 and that the teaching and keeping of them would ensure 8great esteem10 and 8eternal life in the reign of heaven10 he would most likely have cited you to the epistle again1 and said1 read your sentence3 8,he that saith ,i know him and keepeth not his commandment is a ,,liar and the ,,truth is not ,,in ,,him40 ,i should not be at all surprised if you called all this inferential1 irrelevant ,new ,testament testimony1 because your grand object is to destroy the seventh-day ,sabbath4 ,if the ,sabbath is not to be found in the commandments of ,god1 then where is it to be found8 ,if those to whom ,i dedicate this work believe that ,i have proved beyond controversy that the commandments are valid and still to be kept1 as the ,revelation also teaches1 xii3 #ag2 xiv3 #ab2 xxii3 #ad2 then they are a perfect law1 and cannot fail in one point without risking our salvation4 ,then the seventh-day ,sabbath is included or the testimony of ,jesus and his ,apostle would be false4 ,again1 there is but one ,sabbath that was ever required to be kept1 in the bible1 and that is ,,the ,,sabbath4 ,jesus kept the ,sabbath1 and when he was giving them the signs of his coming and the end of the world1 he pointed them at least thirty-five years after his death1 to the very same ,sabbath4 ,on the #bith of ,june last1 you replied to ,j4 ,gifford's inquiries on this point1 and perverted the word1 and called ,,the1 their ,sabbath4 ,you also say1 8,the day before the resurrection was the ,jewish ,sabbath1 which ,christ kept in the tomb4 ,when that ,sabbath ended1 the law of types ended1 and of course the typical ,sabbath ceased--a new dispensation commenced on the first day1 which should be observed in commemoration of the death of ,christ1 until he come40 ,now look at your zig-zag course4 ,first1 that the whole law with the decalogue was nailed to the cross4 ,but here1 to get rid of this brother's argument1 about the ,sabbath being kept the day before the resurrection1 and after the crucifixion1 you stretch out the ,sabbath in the fourth commandment about twenty-seven hours1 7as long as you wanted it17 and then put it back with the other nine that died the day before4 ,here too1 you say1 8ended the law types1 and of course the typical ,sabbath10 and then about twelve hours after a new dispensation commenced4 ,your argument looks like this--the ,jewish dispensation ended at the preaching of ,christ4 ,oh no1 it was at his death--where the law of ,moses1 with the commandments of ,god1 were all nailed to the cross4 ,but stop again--the ,sabbath did not end1 nor the types1 until twenty-seven hours after2 and finally--come to think of it--the dispensation did not end until about twelve hours after that1 when ,christ arose4 ,surely ,j4 ,turner1 with all his mesmeric influence1 could not do much better4 ,how much better to follow ,paul in ,col4 ii3 #ad1 8blotting out the hand-writing of ordinances 7the ceremonial law7 and nailing it to the cross0 on ,friday1 the #adth day of the first month1 8,,finished0 at #c o'clock1 ,p4 ,m4--,john xix3 #cj2 ,mark xv3 #cc1 #cg4 ,again1 you say 8the ,jews were so tenacious about the strict observance of their ,sabbath1 that they would have prevented the disciples fleeing on that day1 had they made an attempt to do so2 hence for their own salvation1 ,christ taught his disciples to pray that their flight might not be on that day1 not because it would be wrong to save their lives on that day1 which the ,sabbatarian view seems to teach40 ,in the first place ,christ never intimated a word about their ,sabbath2 it was ,,the ,sabbath1 the same that he had kept4 ,your sophistical argument about their flight1 c4 c4 touches not the main point4 ,christ did here recognize ,,the ,sabbath of the ,lord thirty-five years beyond the time which you say it was abolished4 ,at that time1 if it never did before1 as you have it1 it belonged as much to the ,gentile as the ,jew1 unless you make another attempt to stretch out the ,jewish dispensation thirty-five years to cover it4 ,his disciples certainly kept the ,sabbath1 the day after his death1 and you cannot prove by the scriptures that the disciples ever held a meeting but once of an evening on the first day4 ,therefore you must be very much pushed for a ,sabbath1 to continually call that day one1 as you do1 at the same time reiterating1 8we want none of your inferences60 ,luke also recognizes ,,the ,sabbath twenty years beyond the resurrection1 and shows that ,paul kept it1 and the ,gentiles also4--,acts xiii3 #db1 #dd4 ,you attempt to destroy all this proof too1 because you say this was the ,jews' day for worship1 and ,paul could get a better hearing4 ,don't you see that the ,gentiles invited him to preach to them--they kept the same day1 #ddth verse4 ,see xvi3 #ac2 here they are by the river's side4 ,paul's manner was to reason with them on the ,sabbath2 see xvii3 #b1 and xviii3 #d1 #aa4 ,so was it the custom of the ,saviour2 ,mark vi3 #b1 and ,luke iv3 #af1 #ca4 ,now if all this is not ,new ,testament evidence enough for honest believers1 in the absence of any other testimony for an abolition1 or change of the ,sabbath1 then it is because men would rather pervert the word of ,god than keep it4 ,god's ,code of ,laws in the ,new ,testament4 8,why do ye transgress the commandments of ,god40--,matthew xv3 #c4 8,what is written in the law1 how readest thou80--,luke x3 #bf4 8,even as ,i have kept my ,father's commandments40--,john xv3 #aj4 8,yea1 we establish the law40--,rom4 iii3 #ca4 8,the law is holy and the commandment is holy40--,rom4 vii3 #ab4 8,not subject to the law of ,god40--,rom4 viii3 #g1 also xiii3 #h-aj4 8,but the commandments of ,god40--#ast ,cor4 vii3 #ai2 #ast ,tim4 i3 #h4 8,for whoever shall keep the whole law10 c4--,james ii3 #aj4 ,moses' ,code of ,laws1 by ,jesus and ,his ,apostles4 8,that is written in their law1 they hated10 c4--,john xv3 #be4 8,justified by the law of ,moses40--,acts xiii3 #ci4 8,it is written in your law1 ,i said1 ye are gods80--,john x3 #cd4 8,have ye not read in the book of ,moses40--,mark xii3 #bf4 8,judged according to our law40--,acts xxiv3 #f4 8,out of the law of ,moses40--xxvii3 #bc1 and xxi3 #bj1 #bb1 #bd1 #bh4 8,and your law40--,acts xviii3 #ae4 ,paul4 ,this and much more could be given to show the clear distinction that ,jesus and his ,apostles and the ,jews always kept up between the law of ,god and the law of ,moses4 ,this is why so much confusion pervades our minds1 when we read ,paul to the ,cor41 ,rom41 ,gal41 and ,col4 ,if we carefully read his letter to the ,hebrews1 his ,jewish brethren1 we shall see a clearer distinction4 ,in the #gth chapter1 and first part of the #hth1 he describes the priesthood2 the change to ,christ in his sanctuary in the heavens1 and then the second covenant1 the law of ,god written on our hearts4 #ith chapter explains the first covenant1 with its appendages1 and the change4 #ajth chapter shows that these appendages never could make us perfect4 #ith verse speaks of the change2 #afth verse of the law of ,god again1 and the #bhth of the law of ,moses4 ,these four chapters will give more light respecting the two codes of laws2 how one is abolished1 except the types1 and the other established1 than all that ever ,i read from the pens of these no-commandment professors4 ,may ,god help us to see the clear light4 ,,to ,,the ,,editor ,,of ,,the ,,bible ,,advocate4 ,,sir--,i was very glad when learned that your columns were to be opened for the discussion of the ,sabbath question1 for ,i thought if you would allow this subject to be fairly brought out1 ,god's holy law would be vindicated and more strictly revered2 but ,i soon see this was1 and would be1 an unequal warfare4 ,to prevent any one's writing but ,c4 ,stowe of ,n4 ,h41 you say her argument will cover1 or about cover1 the whole ground in favor of the ,jewish1 or seventh-day ,sabbath1 and then no one else1 until some one had replied against it1 c4 ,this was very well1 but ,i soon perceived that you did not keep the ship on her course4 ,the first part of ,c4 ,stowe's article1 to cover the whole ground1 has never yet appeared1 and should it come forth at this late hour of the discussion1 it would probably avail as much as you mean it shall in its isolated state4 ,but to prevent what you did publish for her1 in the same paper1 7,sept4 #b;d17 you gave your own unscriptural view1 to go with it4 ,this1 of course1 still more prejudiced your hearers1 as you had before that stated objections4 ,i am not sorry1 however1 that it is still going on in some shape1 if it is partly in disguise4 ,we hear that you have now on hand five times as much matter against the ,sabbath as you have for it4 ,this is all natural enough1 ,god's word has ever been advocated by the minority4 ,and when such blasphemous language against the ,saviour we are looking for1 was permitted to blacken your columns1 and again reiterated that he was right1 and you not only let it pass unnoticed1 but was endeavoring to screen him by withdrawing his real name from ,god's children4 ,the inference is1 and must be1 strong against you4 ,look at your position now6 ,,the ,,bible ,,advocate66 ,show if you can the chapter and verse where the ,,bible allows any man to advocate ,god's word1 that ever withheld his real name and where those that stood in high places were trying to screen them1 because as we should have a good right to suppose1 that they were in fellowship with their doctrine4 ,how do the columns of ,,the ,,bible ,,advocate look now1 since you have opened the way for them to follow your unrighteous course1 to debase and still hold up ,god's holy law as a ,jewish ritual1 that had been abolished4 ,it looks to me like the same horn that is to 8prevail against the saints until the ancient of days comes40 8,he thought to change times and laws20 7,god's laws without doubt47 ,he1 then1 through this agency1 has been blackening your columns with his iron hoof4 ,the ,devil has been too long engaged in this war to pass any one's enclosure1 who has left his gate open1 without walking in and taking possession4 ,how could you be so careless or wilful1 after warring with him as you have done in the past1 to leave the way open for him to tread you down4 ,another thing3 ,in your paper of ,dec4 #bc;d1 you say1 8,br4 ,turner1 have you sent your second article on the ,sabbath8 ,we have not received it40 ,why in so much haste for this wonderful promised article1 to overthrow history1 after he has overthrown himself by the bible8 ,why not publish some of the so much manuscript you have already on hand8 ,i cannot help thinking1 after all1 that you have no faith in your own argument of a no-,sabbath1 no-commandment system1 hence this partial call for ,j4 ,turner to speak again4 ,his view is really the very thing6 ,it is just as it used to be4 ,if ,t4 has got it right the discussion is forever ended1 and we have always been right1 but did not know it2 if we had1 we should not have resorted to these puzzling arguments of ,paul to prove that there is no ,sabbath1 to get clear of plain1 bible doctrine6 ,as ,i have answered nearly all your arguments against the ,sabbath and commandments1 in my work on the ,sabbath1 and ,waymarks1 and lastly in my reply to the ,advent ,harbinger1 under the head of the ,four ,pillar system1 ,i shall be brief because ,i want to say a word upon another subject that you have named4 ,you say1 8to assume or infer that the ,sabbath was commanded to men before the ,exode from ,egypt1 is to walk as blind men4 ,but at creation ,adam's first day was the seventh day1 or day on which ,god rested4 ,hence1 if ,adam kept ,sabbath1 he kept the first day1 and then worked six days40 ,who said so8 ,not the bible4 ,you would try to make out that ,adam contradicted and disobeyed ,god's law1 just as you have4 ,suppose you were born on ,friday1 the sixth day1 would the next day1 the seventh1 be your first or second day8 ,your argument is not worth a straw2 ,adam's first day was ,friday1 the sixth day1 and if he had been created the seventh day1 that would have made no difference4 ,how strange you talk6 ,because man should happen to come into life upon any other than the first day1 then he must surely violate the ,sabbath by doing his six days work first6 ,this is in perfect keeping with 8let every man be persuaded in his own mind10 and not keep any4 ,god rested the seventh day and blessed and sanctified it4 ,surely it is not so dangerous to follow ,god's example as it is to contradict and disobey him4 ,such as these are the blind men4 ,see first three pages of work on the ,sabbath4 ,again1 you say1 8how long was the covenant or law of ten commandments to remain in force and effect1 and answer ,gal4 iii1 till ,christ shall come40 ,under the third ,pillar1 ,i have answered this4 ,the law of circumcision1 and not the law of ,god1 is ,paul's whole argument here4 ,the #agth verse shows the covenant is the one with ,abraham1 four hundred and thirty years before the law to ,moses4 ,there is not an intimation of the abolition of the law of commandments4 ,here it is the law of ,abraham and ,moses4 ,therefore it is right for the advocates of the seventh-day ,sabbath to demand of you to prove a change of the ,sabbath from the seventh to the first day2 and the reason we demand it is1 because we positively know you have none4 ,you also say that the ,apostles availed themselves of the opportunity to preach to the judaizing christians in their synagogues on the seventh day1 at the same time keeping up the christian solemnity and worship on the first day4 ,i say you cannot prove this4 ,you cannot present a passage in the scriptures that shows that the disciples ever met together for worship1 in the day time1 on the first day of the week1 and only once of an evening2 and not one word about that being a holy day or a day for them to worship1 but to break bread4 ,but why do you want to prove this if all the commandments are abolished8 ,the fact is1 as soon as you leave the law of ,god1 you are all adrift1 with neither oar nor rudder1 at the mercy of the tide4 ,again1 you say 8the ministration of the law is done away1 is abolished40 ,that is just what we say4 ,suppose you had ceased your ministration ten years ago1 would that have abolished the ,gospel8 ,this is your reasoning1 and it is the best argument you and others bring for the abolition of the commandments in #b;d ,cor4 iii4 ,there is nothing there but the ministration abolished1 which no more affects the law of ,god1 than the moving of your old sermons out of your house would affect the house4 ,now will you just turn over your file to ,nov4 #dth1 where you come out against ,j4 ,p4 ,m4 ,peck1 about the sanctuary4 ,as ,i have twice presented my view of the sanctuary's being in the heavens1 ,i shall not stop here1 only to say1 that there is abundant bible proof for this view1 and but one place for it1 where ,jesus1 the ,high ,priest is4 ,but the one you advocate is first one thing and then another4 ,palestine1 or ,canaan1 or ,jerusalem1 or mountains about ,jerusalem2 ,mount ,zion1 and generally1 the whole world4 ,the reason for this is1 because you have no proof of any certain place1 after you leave ,paul1 in ,heb4 viii3 #b4 ,but you say1 8,i deny that it has been any thing like a general belief that the twenty-three hundred days ended in '#dd4 ,there were a portion of the adventists that embraced1 for a while1 that theory4 ,but they soon abandoned it1 with the exception of a few1 who have followed anything but the word of ,god and sound reason2 and they now have no fellowship for1 or connection with those who truly look for the cleansing of the sanctuary1 at the end of the days2 and we have as little fellowship for their teaching as they have for us and our view of the plain word of ,god4 ,we know enough of the effect of that theory that teaches the #bcjj days ended in '#dd1 and scores of ,shakers can tell you more even than we can40 ,out of the great mass of advent believers in '#dd1 ,i do not believe you knew of twenty that did not think the days were ended in '#dd4 ,we will try to show1 by-and-by1 who have followed sound reason2 and who have got 8the plain word of ,god40 ,you say you 8know enough of the effect of that theory that teaches the #bcjj days are ended40 ,allow me to tell you that you do not know so much about it as you think you do1 or as you will wish you had4 ,you are as much afloat here as you are on the subject of the ,sabbath and commandments4 ,that portion who abandoned the idea of the days being ended1 of which you boast1 are of those that organized and entered the state of the ,laodocean church1 8neither hot nor cold20 neither in one position nor yet in another2 8always learning and never coming to the knowledge of 7the present7 truth40 ,the ending of the #bcjj days was the great burden of the advent teaching in '#dc and '#dd2 8then the sanctuary shall be cleansed40 ,you will have it that this cannot be before the coming of the ,lord1 and you see he may come at any time2 yes1 now1 by the first of ,january1 as your ,bible ,advocate states4 ,you have now heard something of the character of this ,j4 ,weston4 ,he would have us believe that he was so full of the spirit of the ,lord1 that ,god had revealed to him that ,jesus would come the #bdth of ,december1 or by the #ast of ,january4 ,all good--we will publish it6 ,what about the #bcjj days1 ,br4 ,w48 ,oh1 no matter1 ,jesus is coming now4 ,h4 ,h4 ,gross has refuted this time1 but look at him last spring2 the #acce days must end the #ahth day of ,april1 and the resurrection1 or they would not end under forty-five years4 ,well1 he confessed that he was wrong in ever believing that they had ended in '#dd4 ,come1 then1 where will they end here8 ,oh1 somewhere a little while before the #acce days end in the spring of #ahdg4 ,well1 time has passed on2 out he comes again and says the ,lord will come in the spring of #ahdh4 ,where will the #bcjj and #acce days end1 friend ,gross8 ,can't say--that is1 he don't say--neither does ,j4 ,weston1 and he does not correct him for this2 it is only because the advent cannot be until spring4 ,and here ,i will ask an opinion--that there is not a man in the whole advent ranks--7it seems to me that ,i will not even except you7--that can show that the ,lord will come this winter or next spring4 ,h4 ,h4 ,gross is just as much mistaken in his calculation this coming spring1 as he was the last4 ,now you may go on and call us what it seems to you good1 we are confident that you have not got the present truth1 neither have you had it since you have followed any thing but 8the word of ,god and sound reason40 ,and this is the main reason why you cannot answer brother ,fuller's important questions on ,,the ,,open ,,book ,,of ,,rev4 x3 #b4 ,it requires some one that has followed the truth1 the present truth1 nearer than you have1 to reply to such questions1 and they as surely involve the days as a cry at midnight brought us to the end of them4 ,do you not see how you are first blowing hot and then blowing cold8 ,six weeks ago1 you said you knew enough of the effect of that theory that the days are ended4 ,you say 8all will see by reading the article1 what are ,br4 ,f4's views40 ,that is1 he is one that we have no fellowship for4 ,but1 you say1 we hope that he and many others may be benefitted by a careful and prayerful investigation of some of the many questions he has asked4 c4 c4 ,now this is the right and only way to investigate4 ,but if some one undertakes to follow your advice by the scripture1 it would not amount to much1 for we should expect to see you right out against them1 for those that have rejected plain scripture1 connected with experience1 as you have1 and ridiculed those who had faith in it1 have but little hope now1 since you have become an editor4 ,we deeply lamented that you should have taken such a course2 but we have seen since1 that it required something more than common moral courage1 for a shepherd to remain with the tried and tempted flock1 when he sees that all his fellow shepherds were deserting them4 ,the warnings you have had1 have no doubt brought many solemn convictions to yours and their minds1 or else we should not find you in this lukewarm state4 ,yes1 you have been faithfully warned by your old1 firm friends1 not to come out with your ,advocate2 you have heard their voice1 that two were enough to give the light on the doctrine of the advent1 and they had hard work to get along4 ,but no1 your paper was going to take different ground1 in some things6 ,in one respect1 it has shown pretty clearly1 as the scriptures fully demonstrate1 that 8the dead know not any thing20 and allow me here to tell you1 if you go on with your no-law-of-,god and no-commandment system1 and continue to reject the clear fulfillment of prophecy1 in our past experience1 you will as clearly prove that you know but a very little more4 ,but after all you have said and done1 you are following hard on in the track--the same old deep-cut rut1 made by your predecessors4 ,pharaoh's host like1 the ruts so deep you can neither back nor turn out2 but on you drive after them1 thinking1 no doubt1 that you are going to accomplish something for ,god and his cause4 ,the only way that ,i can see for you to do that1 will be1 either to abandon your load1 or shift the tongue of your chariot on the opposite end1 drive back with all speed1 and get into the highway of the ,waymarks and high heaps1 that you so wilfully abandoned more than three years ago4 ,the ,saviour's admonition to the ,philadelphia state of the church1 which was forming in '#dc and '#dd1 was to hold fast that which we had--and he would 8write upon us his new name40 ,this is what we are endeavoring to do2 and when we see you doing the opposite1 we know you are wrong4 ,you quote ,paul to the ,hebrews1 viii3 #aj1 8,saith the ,lord ,i will put my laws into their mind and write them in their hearts40 ,whose hearts8 ,answer--the house of ,israel2 of course1 all of ,god's people4 ,what is this done for8 ,answer--that he may be our ,god and we may know him and be his people4 ,can you tell your no-law no-commandment readers which law of ,god ,paul meant8 ,whether it was the one you say he abolished in ,col41 ,gal41 ,cor4 and ,romans1 or was it another code of laws which he had made for our purpose1 and then hid them from us4 ,if you know in what book1 or chapter1 or verse they are in the bible1 ,i beseech you to let us know immediately1 for ,i see by ,john's visions in the ,rev4 that in the last days there certainly will be a company keeping them1 and the ,devil will persecute them for it2 but they will eventually be saved1 and enter the city4 ,rev4 xii3 #ag2 xiv3 #ab2 xxii3 #ad4 ,and finally1 if you cannot find any others than those which ,god gave by his own mouth and wrote with his own finger on ,mount ,sinai1 more than #ccjj years since1 the same which ,jesus confirmed to us more than #ahjj years ago with his ,gospel1 won't you make that known by publicly confessing that it is impossible for you to tell what other object ,god had in view than our keeping these same laws2 and that you had1 contrary to the direct teachings of ,god1 derided both his law and his willing1 obedient children4 ,don't tell us that this law is the 8law of ,christ or the law of grace10 or any other name unless you can show us how many commandments they contain1 because ,james has told us 8if we fail in one we are guilty of the whole40 ,jesus never gave but one commandment4 ------------------------------------- ,p4 ,s4 ,as ,i predicted on your second page1 ,j4 ,turner's piece has come4 ,the child is fairly born1 and you have fallen in love with it4 ,now brethren1 just haul down all your other colors1 ,j4 ,turner has got the very thing6 ,the first day of the week is the seventh-day ,sabbath6 ,we have always been right1 but we never knew it till now6 ,thanks to ,j4 ,turner for confounding the whole world1 and now no more about this much vexed question6 8,we shall fill our paper mostly with other matter for the future40 ,the wind has favored us and we have made a first rate tack to windward1 and now we can breathe much freer seeing our enemies are under our lee4 ,hear what he says8 8,we supposed and still do suppose that ,barnabas had reference to a class well known to the adventists in ,connecticut and ,massachusetts1 who went into the shut door1 and staid in1 and almost every other door but the true one into the sheepfold1 and many of which became great sticklers for the seventh day40 c4 ,now he goes on and speaks in high praise of those who have been writing for the ,sabbath--they are consistent ,christians1 c4 ,and now1 says he1 8we must all be exceedingly careful how we write and speak2 the enemy seeks to devour us1 and one of his most artful wiles is to divide the saints by dark insinuations1 evil speaking1 and jealousies10 c4--,see ,bible ,advocate1 ,dec4 #cjth1 p4 #afj4 ,why this caution after the above unsparing epithets2 are you afraid that some of these misguided1 mistaken people will get into your open door8 ,if they should happen to1 and confess that they were wrong in believing in the shut door1 no matter how many others they had been guilty of entering into what you call almost every door1 they would immediately become consistent ,christians6 ,out of hundreds who have crawled into your open door and made such confessions1 causing the hypocrites and unbelievers to rejoice1 and the hearts of the righteous to be sad1 c41 ,i will just name a few3 ,j4 and ,c4 ,pearsons1 ,f4 ,g4 ,brown1 of wonderful memory2 and now a few ,sabbath keepers3 ,w4 ,m4 ,ingham1 ,john ,howell1 of vascillating memory1 and ,j4 ,turner1 your fellow laborer4 ,well1 you are not so far to windward as you think for2 here comes another head flaw1 that will drive you down on that lee shore again1 where you may see the awful havoc you have made of those who are following in your wake4 ,see them dashing there upon the rocks and into those overwhelming breakers6 ,your whirlwind of doctrine has utterly dismantled them1 and their cry for help is unavailing6 and unless you put forth some more strenuous efforts to avoid these dangerous seas1 you will never get off from this lee shore1 while under these deceitful and flattering winds of doctrine4 ,again he says--8,we take the liberty to add1 that ,br4 ,t4's article is ,,irrefutable1 and that we are now observing the ,sabbath of the ,lord our ,god1 and not the ,jewish1 nor a ,pagan ,sabbath40 ,where is he now8 ,does he mean that ,j4 ,t4's ,sabbath is 8the ,sabbath of the ,lord our ,god80 ,he has always insisted1 in his former articles1 that 8the ,sabbath of the ,lord our ,god10 was the ,jewish ,sabbath4 ,there is but one named in the bible4 ,if this what he calls 8the plain word of the ,lord10 ,i doubt whether any one will understand him4 ,he says further--8,if ,friday was the sixth day--every transaction on the day of our ,lord's crucifixion is involved in utter confusion--and the law of types in a like failure1 and makes it an impossibility for the ,sabbath of the ,lord our ,god to be kept the next day1 for this wise reason1 that it was a feast day06 and quotes ,john xix3 #ca1 again and again1 for positive proof4 ,i wonder if he can tell how1 and when1 and where the ,jews lost that day1 since the crucifixion1 and where is the history to show that they did really pass over the seventh-day ,sabbath and keep the first day for the ,sabbath8 ,i have already answered this in ,j4 ,turner's article2 there you will see the reason why ,john called this 8an high day40 ,now1 as he has spoken of the law of types1 ,i ask where is the chapter and verse in the bible in which the ,jews were ever forbidden to hold a feast1 when it fell on the seventh-day ,sabbath8 for1 as ,i before stated1 this always did occur every year4 ,besides this ,jewish feast was an holy convocation2 no servile work was to be done on this day4 ,this was always continued seven days1 and the last day was like the first4 ,lev4 xxiii3 #f-h4 ,now then1 all that they did on these feast ,sabbaths1 was to worship ,god by their offerings4 ,you see that on ,god's holy seventh-day ,sabbath1 see ,j4 ,t4's article1 they always offered four lambs2 therefore1 whenever the other ,sabbaths1 or holy convocations fell on the seventh day1 they were equally observed1 as is positively proved by the direction of ,god in the #cgth and #chth verses of this same chapter1 8every thing upon his day besides the ,sabbaths of the ,lord10 c4 ,now see--here are seven holy convocations1 ,sabbath feasts named in this chapter1 which the ,jews were required to keep besides the weekly seventh-day ,sabbath1 and when their feasts fell on the holy ,sabbath of the ,lord1 all the extra labor was in offering to ,god the extra bullocks1 lambs c4 ,do let me entreat you1 before you further expose yourself1 to read in connection with this1 the twenty-eighth and twenty-ninth chapter of ,numbers1 for here you will find every identical thing specified3 therefore1 when one of these seven holy convocation days of every year came on the weekly ,sabbath1 it was of more importance1 inasmuch that they had more offerings to make to ,god1 and hence ,john or any one else1 might call it 8an high day20 but none the less holy1 any more than for us1 instead of assembling together on the ,sabbath1 in our several places for worship1 to have a general conference meeting in ,boston1 to continue over the ,sabbath4 ,but ,j4 ,turner1 instead of overthrowing history1 as he promised he should1 is exulting1 and says1 8unless ,i utterly misapprehend the technical veracity of ,christ and his apostles1 ,i have the argument by their concurrent testimony40 ,in his ,note #c1 he says1 8,but if the day that followed the crucifixion was the seventh-day ,sabbath1 it could not be said that the ,sabbath drew on1 for it was even then began4 ,it commenced at evening1 at the same time the pascal lamb was slain in the law1 at which time according to the record1 ,jesus expired40 ,now1 ,i say1 this is not true1 and he or the editor who published it1 knows it to be so4 ,i presume that both of them have stated in their preaching1 again and again1 that ,jesus expired on the cross at the ninth hour1 as the ,evangelists testify1 which was at three o'clock in the afternoon1 and three hours before the ,sabbath commenced4 ,if he can assert such positive falsehoods as these1 and others which ,i have stated1 to prove what never has1 nor never will take place1 and at the same time have multitudes crying 8amen60 8that's true60 c41 it is no wonder he can 8set as calm as heaven60 ,but ,i have one other proof to offer1 which will destroy their whole foundation4 ,i had overlooked it in the multitude of texts that had come up here1 but ,god in answer to our prayers1 both in our closet and at meetings1 for wisdom to guide us in giving the present truth to the little flock in this work1 at this important crisis1 has so directed that ,i may have it in time to put into this ,postscript1 just as it is going to press4 ,i could not see before why it was that the printer could not get his promised help1 in order to proceed faster with this work4 ,i see it now--it is all in ,god's own wise way4 ,he was not willing1 7as it now appears to me17 that my work should come out to check or disturb you1 until you began to settle somewhere on this subject4 ,the proof then1 ,i transcribe from a letter received from ,br4 ,,james ,,white1 dated ,topsham1 ,me4 ,january #b;d1 #ahdh4 ,here it is3 8,the plain1 simple truth in regard to the holy ,sabbath flows out from the blessed bible in one clear1 strait channel2 while erroneous views are fated to run crooked and devour themselves4 ,i think that those who are not fully settled as to what day of the week is the seventh or ,sabbath1 would do well to refer to the type1 in ,lev4 xxii3 #e-ba4 ,here are three types which were fulfilled at the time of the first advent4 ,every adventist in the land once believed that these types were exactly fulfilled as to time4 ,the paschal lamb was slain on the #adth day of the first month4 ,so was ,jesus crucified on the #adth day of the first month4 ,the handful of the first fruits of the harvest was waved before the ,lord on the #afth of the first month2 so was ,jesus the first fruits of the resurrection1 raised from the tomb the #afth of the first month4 ,see #ast ,cor4 xv3 #bj4 ,now if the resurrection day1 which was the first day of the week1 was the #afth of the first month1 then it follows that the #adth of the first month when ,jesus was crucified1 which was ,friday1 was the sixth day of the week2 ,saturday1 the seventh day or ,sabbath1 and ,sunday1 the first day of the week4 8,st4 ,paul preached that ,christ would rise the third day1 according to the scriptures4 ,he certainly could refer to no other scripture but the type4 ,our ,lord1 while preaching the resurrection to the two1 on their way to ,emmeas1 began at ,moses4 ,so we are not on forbidden ground when we go there also1 to prove that he arose on the third day4--,see ,luke xxiv3 #bg1 #dd-df4 ,jesus came not to break1 but to fulfill every jot and tittle of the law--therefore he arose ,sunday1 the #afth day of the first month1 which harmonizes with the joint testimony of the ,apostles and ,christ himself1 that he arose on the third day40 ,other brethren1 7in reference to ,j4 ,turner's article17 from ,canandaigua1 ,n4 ,y4 and ,dorchester1 ,mass4 have also1 about this same time1 referred us to this strong hold1 for which we thank them and praise the ,lord for this light1 that forever settles the question4 ,a most striking proof of the unity of the saints in their patience1 7,rev4 xiv3 #ab17 no matter where located1 though hundreds and thousands of miles apart1 they are one on this question4 ,this is as we now understand the ,sabbath of the ,lord our ,god1 to be the rallying point of all those who are truly looking for the speedy coming of ,jesus4 ,whosoever1 therefore1 shall attempt to destroy or displace ,god's holy ,sabbath1 will have to pass the examination of the host4 ,paul to the ,corinthians1 #eth chapter and seventh verse1 says1 8,for even ,christ our passover is sacrificed for us40 ,how8 ,answer--expired on ,friday1 the #adth day of the first month1 at #c o'clock1 ,p4 ,m41 in exact fulfillment of the type by ,moses1 in ,exo4 xii3 #f1 #aa-ad1 continued for #afgj years4 ,he rested from all his works only one twenty-four hour day1 and that was ,god's holy day4 ,paul tells the ,romans that 8he was raised again for our justification40 iv3 #be2 and the ,corinthians 8that he is risen and become the first fruits of them that slept40 #ast ,cor4 xv3 #bj2 and ,col4 i3 #ah1 8first born from the dead40 ,again1 8should be the first that should rise from the dead40 ,acts xxvi3 #bc4 ,john says1 8,the first begotten of the dead40 ,he arose on ,sunday morning1 the first day of the week1 before sunrise--say about #e ,a4 ,m4--having been dead about thirty-eight hours4 ,thus he fulfilled the type in ,lev4 xxiii3 #aj-aa verses--the first fruits of the harvest1 the handful of barley1 called the wafe sheaf1 which was waved by the priest1 with the offering of a lamb1 emblem of ,christ1 as first fruits of the resurrection1 on the morrow after the ,sabbath--the #afth of the first month--the ,sabbath1 or feast day1 always being on the #aeth of the same month4 ,then1 from the #adth1 at #c ,p4 ,m4 to the #afth1 at about #f ,p4 ,m4 is but thirty-eight hours1 two whole nights1 7not three17 one whole day1 a part of ,friday and a part of ,sunday4 8,thus it behoved ,christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day40 ,this is his own testimony a few hours after his resurrection2 also a few hours after the offering of the wafe sheaf4 ,if this can be overthrown then can also the time of his crucifixion4 ,the chaotic confusion that you would make about this great feast day which always followed the passover1 is answered here4 ,it so happened in the order of time to come on ,god's holy ,sabbath2 and that ,god so ordered it that ,christ should rest from all his works on his holy day1 was without doubt1 to fulfill some glorious event yet to come4 ,now1 friend ,timothy1 if you will not reverence ,god's holy ,sabbath and commandments according to the clear precept1 do you let them alone1 if you do not want a worse thing to befal you1 for just so sure as you fight against them they will destroy you4 ,this beating the air1 is some like daubing with untempered mortar2 you cannot make any of it stay put4 ,if ,i were in your place1 ,i should a great deal rather have been fast asleep than to be caught in such heaven-daring business--fighting against ,god6 ,this looks like 8following anything but #8the word of ,god and sound reason4'0 ,during '#dc and '#dd1 ,dowling1 ,stewart1 ,colver1 ,chase1 ,bush and others1 took their stand against ,william ,miller and his brethren1 to demolish ,daniel's vision of the #bcjj days4 ,you remember that no two of these agreed1 but each started upon a theory of his own2 but ,god's children were united and on the one point1 and therefore triumphed over them all4 ,now you leading men are acting the drama over again1 with regard to the ,sabbath and commandments of ,god4 ,see how it looks2 ,william ,miller believes the first day is the ,sabbath2 ,j4 ,v4 ,himes believes in selecting any day1 just as you are persuaded1 but still calls the first the ,sabbath2 ,joseph ,marsh is not particular1 don't believe there is either law1 ,sabbath or commandments--says we are under the law of grace2 but still he will have it1 that ,sunday is the ,sabbath6 you say the first day is the seventh of the ,lord our ,god1 but it is not the ,jewish ,sabbath1--that is2 the one which is in the decalogue4 ,it is something new--,i don't understand you2 don't think you can make your brethren understand it1 either4 ,j4 ,turner says the first day is the true seventh-day ,sabbath6 ,d4 ,b4 ,wait says the commandments are right1 but the first day is the true seventh-day4 ,barnabas says 8the ,jews were right in killing our ,lord for a notorious ,sabbath breaker1 if he did not abolish all the law when he commenced his ministry10 three years before he abolished ,moses' law4 ,up starts another mighty man1 ,g4 ,needham1 and says ,god told him that the commandments were all abolished in #b;d ,corinthians1 chapter #c;d4 ,and a great portion of your flattering readers are flying like ,mother ,cary's ,chickens7#b7 to get into your ,,wake to pick up the crumbs6 ,don't smile1 gentle reader1 the picture is not overdrawn4 ,these are some of the principal leaders in the second advent2 they will tell you to your face that they have renounced all sectarian creeds and formulas1 and believe every word of ,god4 ,now the 8great sticklers for the seventh day10 are all united on the ,sabbath and commandments2 they believe ,god1 if they keep his ,sabbath1 that they shall be sanctified and ride upon the high places of the earth4--,ezekiel and ,isaiah4 ,they believe ,jesus1 that the law and the prophets hang upon the commandments1 and that the keeping of them will give eternal life and great esteem in the reign of heaven4 ,this carries them beyond the ,jewish1 ,gospel1 and all other dispensations4 ,see also ,rev4 xxii3 #ad4 ,they believe the holy ,apostles1 ,paul1 ,john and ,james--that 8the law is holy1 and the commandments holy1 just and good40 8,here are they ,jan4 #ahdh that keep the commandments of ,god and the faith of ,jesus40 ,rev4 xiv3 #ab4 8,if we keep the whole law and yet offend in one point1 we are guilty of all40 ,they feel perfectly secure in following such leaders1 and they understand that though you be ever so moral in regard to the nine commandments1 you fail in the fourth1 the ,sabbath4 ,they believe this to be the 8plain word of the ,lord10 and on this ,sabbath question they will all be united1 waiting for ,jesus4 ,and just so sure as the first class of expositors were overthrown by rejecting the sure word1 just so sure you will be overwhelmed in utter confusion that oppose ,god's holy ,sabbath and commandments1 and your case is now hanging in awful suspense4 ,o ,lord1 let the clear light shine4 ,a word more--as your wonderful prototype has also threatened to unsettle the world with respect to the history of the seventh-day ,sabbath4 ,if he proceeds with it as he has with the unerring word of ,god1 our minds will have to be remodelled1 to believe with him4 ,if any of the little flock feel desirous of spending an hour in looking into this subject1 ,i would recommend them to send to the ,new ,york ,sabbath ,tract ,society1 and purchase ,sabbath tract ,no4 #d1 vol4 #a1 #dh pages4 ,this will save the labor of poring over ,roman and ,english history1 or of following the sophistical arguments of the blind leading the blind4 ,much reliance is placed upon the history of the 8early fathers10 so called1 who succeeded the ,apostles1 to settle the question4 ,we ought to remember that these were uninspired men1 and we do not know even so much about their characters1 as we do of the uninspired fathers of the last century1 whose teaching led us all into ,babylon4 ,if the true history of the advent doctrine from #ahdb to the autumn of #ahdd1 had1 with the subsequent events in our history up to #ahdh1 been published #ahjj years ago from the ,advent ,heralds1 and their conductors had been called the fathers--it would have puzzled all the wise heads in ,christendom1 in this age1 to have expounded their meaning2 for we see it requires all the energies of the human mind to trace their crooked tracks1 even when right before us4 ,for this reason1 ,i have said but little about history2 my whole and entire reliance being upon the inspired word of the living ,god4 ,this1 we are told1 will make us 8perfect and entire--wanting nothing40--#b;d ,tim4 iii3 #ag4 ,if what ,i have and may here present in this work will not stand the test of what we have seen and felt ourselves--fulfilling the clear word of ,god in these last days1 then ,i shall fail in my object of comforting and strengthening the flock of ,god4 ,i fully believe in history1 when all deductions are fully allowed4 ,,past ,,and ,,present ,,experience4 ,,to ,,william ,,miller1 ,dear ,sir1--,the time was1 when all second advent believers were dear to you1 and they called you father and brother ,miller4 ,alas1 how changed the scene is now6 ,jesus says 8whosoever shall do the will of my ,father which is in heaven1 the same is my brother and sister and mother40 ,they can't believe that you are doing the will of ,god1 as you once was1 though they cannot help loving and venerating your name for the great light which you have given--because you are wounding their feelings by calling them ,fanatics1 ,door-,shutters1 and almost any thing but honest people1 to destroy all their reputation and christian fellowship1 and make them feel if possible1 that they are worse than the heathen4 ,in this way you have weaned their affection from you1 and when you give them an exposition of ,god's word now1 they doubt3 say they1 he first gave us the light1 and we rallied to his standard1 because it agreed with the scriptures--but when we were come to the most trying and toilsome part of our journey then he forsook us and joined in with the shepherds and those of like faith1 to berate us4 ,but we soon learnt from the prophets that there would be a people in the last days1 answering this description1 that ,god had promised to save1 called ,outcasts6--,jer4 xxx3 #ag2 ,psl4 cxlvii3 #b4 ,now you are encouraging these same deniers of our faith to be peaceable2 for--say you--we shall soon get into the kingdom of ,god4 ,methinks if we should all meet there under existing circumstances1 there would be a great deal of confessing before we could be reconciled to listen to each other's joys4 ,but it will not be so2 if you and your brethren1 and the outcasts too1 are saved1 then ,i predict that we shall have to stay here until a perfect reconciliation takes place4 ,when that will be1 ,i cannot tell1 for in my judgment the gulf between us has been widening for the last three years4 ,now1 ,i prefer to remain on that side of it with the ,outcasts1 for they have the promise that they shall be gathered4 ,when we made our sacrifice during a cry at midnight1 we considered and were fully persuaded that we were doing our last work1 and surely that would be done the best of any work4 ,then of course we had no right whatever to take back the sacrifices we then made1 and rob ,god4 ,we were fully aware that our disappointments would not change our course1 for if we were ever saved it must be by our onward course4 ,but those with whom you were associated sounded the retreat1 and all that did not follow in their train have been subject to your unsparing epithets4 ,if you knew as much about this afflicted and torn people1 7whom you have been the instrument in leading out into the ,philadelphia state of the church1 and then leaving and driving them from you17 as ,i do1 you would shudder to appear before ,him who has promised to be a ,father to them and keep them4 ,the principal cause of many offences which they committed were from bad teachers and teaching4 ,you have a sample here in this work4 7,we have no wish1 neither do we uphold any one who does not follow the teachings of the sure word47 ,i think you have listened too much to them4 ,if ,i could just take you with me to some of the stopping places of these people1 and show you their scanty wood piles at this inclement season of the year1 and then to the barrels which once held their beef1 pork and flour1 together with the scanty subsistence they now have1 and with no earthly prospect of another supply1 only as their trust is in the living ,god1 in whom they had committed their all1 because of their honest sacrifice and anxious waiting for their coming ,lord2 turned out of their former employment and reproached for keeping ,god's holy ,sabbath day2 whipped by cruel1 unmerciful men for shouting the praises of their ,god and king1 and still persevering in their faith1 c4 ,and then1 for a contrast1 to step on board the cars and be rolled away to your own comfortable and commodious house1 with well stocked barn and granaries1 beef and pork barrels--the produce of your own valuable farm--with all things that heart could wish for1 and set down by your comfortable fire with your family1 7all believers with you in the coming of ,jesus17 and recount to them the strange scenes you had witnessed among an afflicted people1 who once listened with anxiety and delight to every word you had to say about the second coming of ,jesus1 and they were so delighted with this1 to them1 joyful news1 that they wanted to hear about it all the time4 ,we may imagine your conversation to proceed somewhat in the following strain3 8,you remember how elder ,himes used to insist on my going with him from city to city1 and from state to state1 because of the people's anxiety to hear me preach about the coming of ,christ in #ahdc and '#dd40 8,yes1 father1 ,i remember it well--for when ,i was with you it seemed as though the people were hardly willing to let us come home and rest a little while40 8,i know it1 my son1 and ,i used to think that ,god never would have sustained me in such continued and incessant labors as ,i was then called to perform1 if it were not his cause4 ,why1 when ,i saw the wonderful effect that it produced on backsliders and sinners1 in bringing them to ,god1 and the glow of joy that lit up in the countenances of ,god's honest1 believing children1 and how they hung upon every word2 and then the contrary effect1 when some of their learned ministers raised their objections--,i said ,i know this is ,god's cause1 and as it rolled on through that cry at midnight1 down to its closing scene1 you all remember with what joy and glory ,i was filled1 and how ,i publicly declared my faith1 and stated that #8,i might be called a ,,fanatic1 but1 ,i said1 call me what you please1 ,christ will come1' c4 ,well1 these singular people are some of the very ones that used to hang on my words and others1 who preached to them of this doctrine4 ,and during this cry at midnight they made a sacrifice of all they had--7some of them were almost as well off as we are1 and some were poor17--but they offered what they had1 and that was all that was required40 8,grandfather1 what makes them poor now that had something then8 ,you know the ,saviour didn't come then1 as you said he would1 and that is more than three years ago40 8,well1 they thought it would be contrary to scripture to take back their sacrifice1 and so many of them have made no improvements on their farms1 nor their buildings1--no1 they have not even made stone walls6 ,some of them sold what they had1 and have been trying to help the poorer ones1 because they said they still believed that ,christ was coming1 and they would not need it4 ,for instance1 they believe what ,luke has recorded in his xii3 #cc--#8,sell your goods and give alms2 lay not up treasure on the earth1'--they think this must be understood literally6 and they have gone off into many strange notions1 believing the door is shut1 c4 c40 8,well1 how do they appear1 father80 8,they do not seem to be1 in the least1 alarmed at poverty2 they are expecting soon to be delivered and made heirs with ,jesus1 to an incorruptible inheritance that will abide forever4 ,i could get along with many points in their faith1 and believe them honest1 if they did not make them tests for us2 and because we do not believe in the great work that was wrought in the past1 and the present truths that they advocate1 they have no charity for us4 ,they say we have backslidden and gone into a cold lukewarm ,laodocean state of the church40 8,well1 father1 ,i believe there is a great deal of truth in their statements1 for there certainly is a wonderful difference in our camp and conference meetings1 to what there used to be1 for if any one shouts glory to ,god1 now1 as they used to in '#dc and '#dd1 it seems as if the whole meeting was agitated1 until it is ascertained that it is one of the deluded ones1 it seems as though they hardly dare say amen1 either because they do not believe what you say1 or for fear they shall be called fanatics4 ,you know how they tried you and how hard you talked to them about it in the conference in ,boston1 last spring4 ,you thought it was because they had no religion4 ,and then the camp meeting too1 at ,lake ,champlain2 ,i suppose the most of them thought that you were going to prove that the door was shut1 and that the past was true2 and a good many of them might still have thought so1 if elder ,marsh had not taken it up and called forth your explanation1 in his paper of ,sept #bhth4 ,for my part1 ,i don't really understand all these things--that as soon as you begin to advocate the past truths in any of our meetings1 these editors are either writing or visiting you to explain it more fully in their papers1 and then neither party seems to be satisfied4 ,if ,i were you1 ,i would take a strait-forward course1 and try to please ,god1 if ,i could not any one else40 8,well1 my son1 you know that these two editors have stood by me ever since #ahdb1 and as for elder ,himes1 he has stood by me and been my warm and fast friend all these last seven years of joy and trials1 and ,i cannot separate from him4 ,no1 ,i have told him that ,i would sustain him and his paper if ,i had to carry down our #8potatoes to ,boston1' to raise the means4 ,you see ,i must stand by him1 and he and brother ,marsh will defend and justify my course and views of bible doctrine2 and defend my character from the aspersions of my enemies1 and gladly publish any thing ,i have to say against the ,door ,shutters1 c40 8,yes1 yes--,i know all that1 father1 but some how or other1 these things do not look right4 ,you began with a strait-forward bible course1 and it cut like a sword with two edges1 and that is the reason why these door shutters1 c41 as you call them1 believed your testimony1 and they think there is just as much edge to the sword now as there ever was4 ,however1 you have studied the bible much more than ,i have1 therefore ,i shall not dispute you1 but ,i cannot see that this people1 whom you have been to visit1 are so much out of the way for venturing to go forward1 after your clear directions to them1 soon after the cry at midnight40 ,but it may be said that these are what are termed the 8,no-work ,folks40 ,no sir1 they do not belong to that class1 although their views are1 in most all other respects1 similar4 ,you have been told--or1 ,i have--by one of your traveling lecturers1 that there were but twenty-five of them1 all told4 ,he said they were proclaiming that they were all that would be saved at the second advent4 ,we have no such view4 ,we believe1 what ,i shall attempt to prove by-and-by1 that there will be #add1jjj saved at the coming of ,jesus4 ,furthermore1 we believe that the same commandment which teaches us to keep the seventh-day ,sabbath1 also teaches that we may labor the other six days for just as much as we comfortably need2 more than that would counteract the direction of ,jesus1 viz4 8,lay not up for yourselves treasures on the earth10 c4 ,this is all right1 for our faith teaches us we do not need it4 ,if we hoard up what we have got1 it certainly is not selling and giving alms4 ,my opinion is1 that this is now to be made clear1 and that ,god's people will be absolutely afraid to be found with a surplus treasure here1 when ,christ comes4 ,as the keeping of the fourth commandment1 in its true scriptural sense1 carries us to the gates of the city1 so our laboring honestly for what we immediately want1 also carries us to that point4 ,but we have no controversy with those who honestly and sincerely live to ,god without laboring2 though they tell us that they have no charity for us1 still we believe if they honestly live out their faith ,god will not condemn them for not working six days4 ,your explanation respecting the time that ,christ might1 or has1 began to reign1 to prove that you had no connection or fellowship with 8door shutters0 or their views1 is the most enigmatical of all your ideas1 since #ahde4 ,i refer to your letter in the ,advent ,harbinger of ,sept4 #bhth4 ,it is endorsed by the editor1 and also by the ,advent ,herald1 in justifying the ground you took--and grew out of a report that elder ,s4 ,hall of ,bangor1 made from your conversation and preaching at the ,champlain camp meeting4 ,i reported what ,i heard1 and it was therefore stated that ,i was present4 ,this you could have contradicted1 but the editor has since acknowledged his mis-statement4 ,s4 ,hall is an entire stranger to me4 ,i have written him two letters on the subject1 without reply4 ,but it is your own written statement that so puzzles me4 ,you give from #ahae to #ahdg1 thirty-two years1 for ,michael in ,dan4 xii3 #a1 to stand up to reign1 and you further say it might have been at the end of the #bcjj days4 ,this is the first intimation ,i have had1 since you took your stand against us1 that you believed the days ended2 but the forty-five years latitude for ,christ to begin to reign1 and your anathemas at those who believe the door is shut1 is as incomprehensible to me as ,swedenbourgenism--,j4 ,marsh's explained exposition of ,nov4 #ith1 to the contrary notwithstanding4 ,as ,i have already given my views about the time when ,christ began to reign1 in ,way ,marks1 page #ce and onward1 ,i may not say much here4 ,have the #bcjj days really ended then1 and nothing to mark their end8 ,this was the burthen of your cry4 ,it was also the prophets1 and one of them said it should speak and not lie4 ,then1 of course1 it would not come silently2 but the wise would understand when it did end4 ,you reply1 ,i suppose1 according to the #aath chapter of ,revelations1 from which you was speaking1 that the seventh trumpet had began to sound2 but was there nothing else connected with the ending of the #bcjj days8 ,yes--the third wo1 because that belongs to the seventh trumpet2 see viii3 #ac4 ,now the #ajth chapter1 #gth verse1 shows us that when this seventh trumpet begins to sound1 the ,mystery of ,god should be finished4 ,oh1 you say1 that's the old story of #ahde4 ,yes sir1 and more than seventeen hundred years beyond that4 ,here is your trouble2 but the most of your hearers1 though they may listen with delight to you1 yet they preach that the seventh trumpet does not sound until ,christ comes to raise the dead4 ,you ought to correct them here1 for they are certainly in the dark2 ,christ is not the seventh messenger4 ,besides1 if ,christ has began to reign as you say1 over the nations1 he has1 according to your showing in ,daniel xii3 #a1 changed his position4 ,if so1 how can he be in the mediatorial seat8 ,his leaving that finishes the ,mystery1 and that forever shuts the door1 unless you or some one else can prove that he leaves this work over the nations1 and goes back again to finish what he left undone4 ,now1 who is the fanatic here8 ,you cannot make all this work in harmony--it is impossible2 besides1 you call us spiritualizers1 because of our view of the ,bridegroom4 ,if we are1 pray what are you8 and how did you find out that ,christ had changed his position1 even twenty years ago8 or when the #bcjj days ended1 somewhere since #ahdc8 ,it really appears to me1 that if we had put forth such a view1 that we should have been pronounced crazy6 and yet your two editors will patch it all up1 and throw all the stigma upon us1 forsooth1 because they think we shall claim you as an ,outcast6 ,their fears are unnecessary--we have no claim to such views2 they would only disturb our ranks4 ,we believe that the seventh trumpet began to sound on the first day of the seventh month4 ,then the ,mystery was finished1 and the third wo came4 ,the virgins in the parable1 were divided--some went after oil4 ,on the tenth day of the seventh month is the day of atonement4 ,at this point in #ahda1 in the order of the fulfillment of the types in ,leviticus and ,new ,testament testimony1 7which we have referred to in the ,way ,marks7 ,jesus received his ,bride and the kingdoms of this world1 and entered the ,holy of ,holies as our ,great ,high ,priest1 and commenced the cleansing of the ,sanctuary4 ,why8 ,because here the #bcjj days ended3--,the appointed time4 ,at this point too1 commenced the trial of ,god's people4 ,surely you never can forget this1 until the trial ends2 and that cannot end in accordance with the type1 until our ,great ,high ,priest and ,king has finished the cleansing of the ,sanctuary1 the ,new ,jerusalem1 and it is made holy2 see ,joel iii3 #ag4 ,now follow the type and ,bible testimony1 and it is positively clear that ,jesus changes his position from the daily ministration to the most holy place1 just as certainly as ,aaron did4 ,here then1 in short1 is where we prove the ,bridegroom come to the ,marriage1 and the door shut1 in the parable of ,matt4 xxv1 and in the types4 ,if it does not prove this in our past history1 and that we are now waiting for our coming king1 then these types are superfluous4 ,we do not believe that ,michael stands up1 as you have stated1 until he has accomplished what is above stated4 ,we cannot possibly see how he can begin to reign over the nations as king1 while he is in the most holy place1 cleansing the ,sanctuary1 and the saints being perfected for the blessing when he lays aside his priestly robes and takes the sickle1 as in ,rev4 xiv3 #ad2 and ,god speaks1 as in ,joel iii3 #af4 ,if what you have stated1 had been even approbated in ,oct4 #ahdd1 it would have thrown the whole harmony of the scriptures1 in our past history1 into confusion4 ,as ,i have said1 ,i will here repeat it1 that unless you follow the ,bible rule as ,i have stated here and in the ,way ,marks1 you never can harmonize the scriptures with the past nor present2 and ,i think ,i shall make it plainer still1 before ,i lay down my pen4 ,one thing more3 ,much derision is made about those of our company that have joined the ,shakers4 ,i say it is a shame to them first1 to have preached in clearly and distinctly the speedy coming of our ,lord ,jesus ,christ personally to gather his saints--and then to go and join the ,shakers in their faith1 that he 7,jesus7 came spiritually in their ,mother1 ,ann ,lee1 more than seventy years ago4 ,this1 without doubt in my mind1 is owing to their previous teaching and belief in a doctrine called the trinity4 ,how can you find fault with their faith while you are teaching the very essence of that never--no never to be understood1 doctrine8 ,for their comfort and faith1 and of course your own1 you say 8,christ is ,god1 and ,god is love40 ,as you have given no explanation1 we take it to come from you as a literal exposition of the word2 and although the editor of the ,herald1 of ,dec #dth1 endeavors to justify you in your published view of the ,unity in #ahdb1 and thinks he has made it clear that you have not changed your views on this subject1 just as he is in the habit of doing without your knowledge1 but still you have not confirmed it1 and your having changed your views once at least since #ahdd1 leaves us in doubt about the editor's remarks4 ,we ask1 then1 where you find this passage1 and if ever love was seen2 and if that is what we are looking for from heaven1 to come the second time8 ,if so1 how will it look1 and where is the scripture that describes it8 ,it seems to me that the shakers have a better claim to you than we have4 ,we believe that ,peter and his master settled this question beyond controversy1 ,matt4 xvi3 #ac-ai2 and ,i cannot see why ,daniel and ,john has not fully confirmed that ,christ is the ,son1 and1 not ,god the ,father4 ,how could ,daniel explain his vision of the #gth chapter1 if 8,christ was ,god40 ,here he sees one 8like the ,son 7and it cannot be proved that it was any other person7 of man1 and there was given him ,dominion1 and ,glory1 and a kingdom20 by the ancient of days4 ,then ,john describes one seated on a throne with a book in his right hand1 and he distinctly saw ,jesus come up to the throne and take the book out of the hand of him that sat thereon4 ,now if it is possible to make these two entirely different transactions appear in one person1 then ,i could believe your text if ,i could believe that ,god died and was buried instead of ,jesus1 and that ,paul was mistaken when he said4 8,now the ,god of peace that brought again from the dead our ,lord ,jesus that great shepherd of the sheep0 c41 and that ,jesus also did not mean what he said when he asserted that he came from ,god1 and was going to ,god1 c4 c42 and much more1 if necessary1 to prove the utter absurdity of such a faith4 ,without going any further1 we say that one of two things is certainly clear1 that the doctrine of the second advent1 which you1 and your adherents promulgated down to ,oct4 #ahdd1 was positively wrong1 if you now are right4 ,we believe it was right and approved of ,god and therefore we fully believe that we are in the right road still1 but we have nothing to boast of2 our track has been made dark by your opposition1 but still we have travelled on1 believing that light is sown for the righteous1 and we have realized it2 to ,god be all the praise4 ,if you and your adherents could have turned us into your course1 you would4 ,we rejoice that we are in the furnace4 ,our deluded course1 as it is termed1 arises from three things that we practice3 ,first1 we are called ,judaizers1 because we keep the ,sabbath according to the commandment2 our reasons for it1 are with you4 ,we say further that ,god set us the example1 as he has the whole world4 ,jesus and the apostles followed1 and so do we4 ,second1 because we wash one another's feet1 here we have the plain and positive teaching and example of ,jesus3 8,if ,i1 then1 the master and the teacher1 have washed your feet4--,happy are ye who know these things provided ye ,,practice them40--,camp4 trans4--,john xiii4 ,third1 that we practice kissing4--,here we have the teaching1 of the great apostle to the ,gentiles1 to churches and households and every individual believer in ,christ ,jesus2 see ,rom4 xvi3 #c1 #f1 #ab-af2 #ast ,thes4 v3 #bf1 8,greet all the brethren with a holy kiss20 ,phil4 iv3 #ba4 8,salute every saint in ,christ ,jesus40 ,now ,i do not say but here is dangerous ground1 and no doubt many have fallen1 because they could not stand the test1 as ,paul's brethren could not the communion2 but did ,paul advise them to give it up because some had lost their lives for it8 ,no6 ,well1 then1 the rule is the same with us1 not to yield because some have spiritually died4 ,it is a test of our fellowship for one another1 and we may just as well be ashamed of the teachings of the bible as to be ashamed or afraid to practice what is clearly taught4 ,our course is onward2 we leave you say what you please of us4 ,we very clearly see if we persevere in this course1 that it will lead us to immortality4 ------------------------------------- ,p4 ,s4 ,some days after writing the above1 an acquaintance of mine loaned me the ,advent ,herald of ,jan4 #hth1 #ahdh1 to read the remarkable dream1 which you had in ,november last4 ,i am glad that the ,lord comforted you by giving you this dream4 ,since ,i have read it1 ,i do feel a hope that the ,lord will yet save you from the delusive snare into which your pretended friends seemed to have drawn you4 ,joel's prophecy1 quoted by ,peter1 at the ,pentecost1 respecting dreams and visions of the last days1 are not1 in my view1 fulfilled2 nor cannot be1 unless it can be proved that the last days are past4 ,i fully believe that ,god warns and instructs his children in various ways1 when deep sleep is fallen upon them4 ,there certainly are some very remarkable cases on record in the ,bible1 and ,i as much believe them1 as other portions of his word4 ,it seemed to me that ,i could see some of the outlines of this dream2 for instance1 the 8curiously wrought casket1 filled with all sorts and sizes of jewels1 diamonds1 precious stones1 and gold and silver coin of every dimension and value1 beautifully arranged in their several places in the casket40 ,these1 ,i think1 clearly represent the special treasure1 the jewels of the ,lord of hosts1 that are now being made up in this day of trial1 as saith ,malachi2 brought out and made manifest by the second advent doctrine1 which you began to give to the world some few years ago4 ,many of them1 at that time1 bound down by the sectarian creeds and formulas in ,babylon1 were aroused and won away by the soul-stirring doctrine of the coming of ,christ1 in #ahdc and '#dd4 ,no wonder that your friends1 who then gathered around you1 shouted for joy when they began critically and earnestly to examine the curiously wrought casket1 7the word of ,god17 and to see1 the more they examined and expounded1 the more the diamonds and jewels increased in splendor1 brilliancy and numbers1 7converts from the churches and the world17 and scattering all over the land1 7the centre table17 and in a few years throughout the world1 every nation1 kindred1 tongue and people1 7all over the floor and furniture47 ,by this time the flying messengers in ,rev4 xiv1 began to draw these jewels out into a clear place by themselves1 7the ,philadelphia state of the church17 saying1 behold1 the ,bridegroom cometh1 go ye out to meet him6 ,as soon as the disapointment came in ,oct4 #ahdd1 then your counterfeit coin and immense quantities of spurious jewels 7hypocrites and unbelievers7 were seen as you saw1 scattered among the genuine4 ,here you felt the great responsibility of the doctrine you had been propogating1 and proclaimed that our work for the world was done1 and you was grieved to see that so few of the great multitude which had appeared delighted with your doctrine1 really believed it4 ,hence you became 8vexed in your very soul1 and began to use physical force to push them out40 ,here1 ,i think is where you changed your views and course1 in the spring of #ahde1 and united with those that have been increasing three to one1 as you saw1 bringing in dirt1 and sand1 and shavings and all manner of rubbish and covered up both the genuine and false jewels and diamonds1 c4 ,these ,i think represent the false doctrine1 since #ahdd1 mixed up with almost every thing1 and from every where1 calling the honest and confiding children of ,god almost any thing but their true names2 thus covering them up with1 as you saw1 dirt1 sand1 shavings1 and rubbish of all kinds2 at the same time so covering up also the spurious coin1 7false teachers7 that nothing of them1 or of that beauty and glory that was so apparent a little while since1 can now as it were1 be seen1 breaking in pieces your casket 7the word of ,god7 and trampling it also under foot4 ,just look at the ,sabbath controversy1 for one item1 and the daubing with untempered mortar1 this all absorbing subject of ,christ coming to ,judgment1 and compare it with ,ezek4 xxxiv chapter1 particularly the #ba1 #bb and #cast verses1 and surely it will be admitted that 8the ,dream is certain and the interpretation thereof sure40 ,and whereas thou sawest a man enter the room with a dirt brush and open the windows to cleanse it of its filthiness at which time all the people passed out4 ,the spurious coins also arose and passed out of the windows4 ,the room was then cleansed of all its rubbish4 ,all the genuine diamonds1 precious coin and jewels1 even to those not larger than the point of a pin1 were collected1 and beautifully arranged in another casket1 which1 when the man called you to look into1 caused you to shout with very joy4 8,know therefore and understand20 that in this day of atonement1 while our ,great ,high ,priest is cleansing the sanctuary1 7blotting out his people's sins17 preparing his jewels 7,mal4 iii3 #ag7 of all sizes to enter the splendid and most glorious mansions in the ,new ,jerusalem1 which he promised them1 ,john xiv4 ,and whereas thou wast not shown in thy dream1 how the first casket was prepared1 that being unnecessary1 as thine own experience for the last few years would clearly come into thy mind1 which1 when compared with our history1 brought to view in the xiv chapter of ,rev4 particularly #f-aa verses1 would show thee how it was done4 ,and the oneness of the angel or messenger in performing this first work1 will help thee to understand1 how the man 7or messenger7 which thou sawest enter the room will also be distinctly seen2 since our great disappointment in ,oct4 #ahdd1 operating under the divine guidance of the word and spirit1 as far as can be seen through the gross darkness and infidelity that is becoming more and more manifest2 through all of their instrumentalities1 such as prayer1 exhortation1 visiting1 comforting1 writing1 especially epistolary correspondence1 and all other proper means to ascertain the whereabouts1 and the number of the scattered sheep of the house of ,israel3 even the most lonely and most despised4 ,wait patiently therefore and watch1 remembering what ,god has taught in these last few years respecting the clear fulfillment of his word in our experience1 and the perfect harmony we are now made to see in place1 manner and time1 for every point4 ,as he had distinctly taught us1 viz4 8,which ye shall proclaim in their seasons40 8,a time for all things40 8,every thing on his day40 8,not one jot or tittle of the law to fail10 even the thoughts of ,god towards us to be perfectly considered in the latter 7or last7 days4--,jer4 xxiii3 #bj4 ,as therefore it required the space of a few years to arrange and develope the first casket1 so then here likewise must be order and time to cleanse1 prepare1 and properly arrange1 the second casket1 by the same kind of instruments4 ,and whereas thou didst cry to him to forbear for fear he would injure the precious jewels1 and he replied fear not1 ,i will take care of them2 that is1 those that are 8keeping the commandments of ,god and the faith of ,jesus10 will not injure the jewels 7their brethren7 for they will act in harmonious concert1 under the new commandments of their officiating great high priest and king4 ,your cry to forbear1 looks ominous of further resistance and as for any of your assistance in collecting1 cleansing and arranging the jewels of the ,lord of hosts 7the last casket17 it looks still more dubious1 as it seems you kept your eyes closed 7in a quiet state17 until the jewels were all arranged4 ,this is the reason why you did not see the pains that the man 7or messenger7 took in arranging them4 ,this ,i fear1 that you will not open your eyes to see this important work until the sealing time1 and ,god speaks himself2 but ,i cannot but still hope that your 8shout for very joy10 will be one of triumph and redemption4 ,several nights before ,i saw your dream1 ,i had finished writing your letter1 ,i presented the subject of my work before the ,lord again1 for wisdom to direct me in all that ,i had1 or may write for the benefit of his children1 and the vindication of his word4 ,and that ,i may do so1 ,i asked for a dream1 vision1 or any way that was consistent with his will to instruct me4 ,the next thing1 as near as ,i can now recollect1 was the following ,dream4 ,a great tumult behind me1 with corresponding commotion in the heavens1 so fully confirmed me that the ,lord ,jesus was coming1 that ,i began to sing and rejoice2 very soon the people began to assemble around me4 ,they wanted to hear my opinion about the coming of the ,lord4 ,i felt no spirit of communication2 my work seemed to be done1 except to answer a few questions put to me by one or two out of a great number of backslidden adventists that seemed to be engaged in almost any thing but the work of ,god4 ,this scene soon changed1 and ,i was in meeting with a large assembly of worshippers4 ,the speaker arose and pointed to a man that he said was under conviction2 he seemed very anxious that ,i should see him4 ,the congregation seemed to have a oneness with the speaker looking at him and myself4 ,i looked1 and although the man's head was resting on the railing of the seat1 ,i perceived that it was an old neighbor of mine1 who had lived and died a ,universalist1 several years ago4 ,the preacher's theme1 and whole labor1 was1 look6 behold6 this man is under conviction6 ,i thought if they knew the man as well as ,i did1 their wonder would soon cease4 ,no other effect was produced1 by this effort1 other than to remind me of the extra exertions that had been made by the leading professed adventists since the spring of #ahde1 to prove that ,god was converting souls under their labors4 ,here the scene changed again1 the house was cleared1 and the seats laid away4 ,the room now appeared very large1 with a high stage at one end1 on which ,i was standing with an instrument like a mallet in my hand1 knocking off the top of a large box4 ,a few spectators on one side1 and a large fleshy man1 the owner of the box1 on the other1 apparently very unwilling for me to open it4 ,but it seemed a clear duty that ,i was fully authorized to examine all contraband goods1 and therefore there was no resistance4 ,as the top of the box flew off1 this man eagerly seized two or three bottles apparently filled with water and hugged them close to him1 silently waiting the result of the examination4 ,the box was about one-third full of what appeared to be wooden feet and legs--it seemed as though they were painted idols4 ,among them was a very large glazed wide rimmed hat1 with the hatters block fitted into it4 ,i looked up to the man and exclaimed6 what in the world did you smuggle this hat with a block of wood in it1 in here for4 ,the man still grasping the bottles1 7,i have thought emblematical of the water of life17 darted away to the east end of the room1 and entered what appeared to me a closet door painted light blue1 from which ,i could discover no light4 ,now1 dear sir1 as ,i have candidly1 and prayerfully attempted to interpret your dream1 will you write the interpretation of mine1 and receive my love and earnest desire for your perfect reconciliation with ,god1 and all his precious jewels in the last casket4 ,,joseph ,,bates4 ,,scriptural ,,observance ,,of ,,the ,,sabbath4 ,the only safe rule1 is according to the commandment2 see ,exo4 xx3 #h-aa4 ,this is the manner the disciples kept it2 ,luke xxiii3 #ef4 ,the great ,god of heaven instituted the ,sabbath1 or day of rest1 when he ended his six days work of creation1 rested himself and sanctified the day1 and thereby set the example for man4 ,as there was but one man then1 it is evident that it was not made for him alone1 nor for any particular nation or people that should afterwards come--for he is said to be 8no respecter of persons40 ,some think it was made for the ,jews alone2 but the commandment refers us to the creation1 twenty-five hundred years before there was a ,jew on earth4 ,it also requires the stranger 7the ,gentile7 to keep it1 and ,god has promised to make him joyful in his house of prayer1 by doing so2 ,isa4 lvi3 #f1 #g4 ,he has also given this day of rest to the beasts of burden1 and makes man accountable for causing them to violate his day4 ,they cannot speak for themselves2 how important1 therefore1 that we should not1 in any way1 allow our beast to labor on that day4 ,but1 says the objector1 surely there is no harm in using my horse to carry my family three or five miles to meeting on the ,sabbath4 ,the word says 8obedience is better than sacrifice40 ,if the meeting cannot be nearer home1 and we cannot walk1 why1 then go before the ,sabbath commences and stay until the day has ended4 ,if a general meeting1 and all cannot be accommodated1 then it would be proper to have it some other day4 ,god has plainly taught us how we shall keep this day3 8,we are not to do our pleasure on his holy day1 but call the ,sabbath a delight1 the holy of the ,lord1 honorable1 and shalt honor him1 not doing our own ways1 nor finding our own pleasure1 nor speaking our own words1 then thou shalt delight thyself in the ,lord10 and he will bless thee4 ,see also what to us an unaccountable promise ,god made to his chosen people1 if they would not carry any burdens in nor out of their houses1 nor do any work on the ,sabbath day3 8,the city of ,jerusalem should stand forever40--,jer4 xvii3 #bb-be2 see also how ,nehemiah enforced the sacredness of the day1--xiii3 #ae-ba4 ,moses also1 and many others2 shewing clearly that ,god gave more directions about the fourth commandment1 and greater promises1 than for all others of his laws1 and says 8,verily1 my ,sabbaths ye shall keep that ye may know that ,i1 the ,lord1 do sanctify you40 ,and as ,i think that ,i have made it plain and positive from the scriptures alone1 that the ,sabbath was never changed nor abolished1 then how simple1 plain and safe to follow the example of our ,father in heaven4 ,surely no living person can be condemned for this4 ,then let us keep the day as the bible teaches us that he did4 ,the ,sabbath1 ,god says1 is a sign and covenant between him and the children of ,israel forever2 see ,exo4 xxxi3 #af1 #ag2 ,ezek4 xx3 #ab1 #bj4 ,read the curse that followed their violating it--xxii3 #h1 #be-bh4 ,do you still say this is only for the ,jewish dispensation8 read in ,deut4 vii3 #i1 the promise to them who keep his commandments to a thousand generations4 ,suppose a generation to be thirty years3 then you have #bd1jjj years yet to come4 ,but allow the scripture rule1 seventy years1 and then we have not reached that point by at least #fd1jjj years4 ,do you think his mercy will cease then1 so many ages after immortality8 ,it is not in the power of man to make a figure of this4 ,some other passages regard generation and generation1 without limitation4 ,,under ,,the ,,gospel4 ,christ1 the ,son of ,god1 and his ,disciples1 kept the same ,sabbath--7it is folly to speak of any other1 the scriptures forbid it47 ,he was the ,lord of the ,sabbath1 and he said it 8was made for man40--,mark ii3 #bg1 #bh4 ,for what man8--,see article1 #b;d ,pillar4 ,he says he kept his ,father's commandments4 ,paul says they are holy1 just and good4 ,john says1 they are from the beginning1 and points a company who are now keeping them4 ,james tells us we are to keep the whole--surely the ,sabbath is here2 ,god himself1 says it is4--,exo4 xvi3 #bg1 #bh1 and xx3 #h-aa4 ,jesus1 then1 is our example4 ,surely we shall not err if we follow him4 ,respecting working1 cooking1 making fires1 c4 c41 please see my reply to ,barnabas4 ,jesus always preached on the ,sabbath1 and healed1 and wrought miracles1 and blessed his honest followers4 ,and ,i know for one that he blesses them still1 who worship on that day2 see ,mark vi3 #b1 8,and when the ,sabbath day was come1 he began to teach in their synagogues10 8as his custom was40 ,luke iv3 #af1 #ca1 he asked 8if it was lawful to do well on the ,sabbath days80 ,if we can do good in like manner1 we shall be perfectly safe2 if better1 try it4 ,just read in the following passages1 how and what he did4 ,his being judged by primitive and modern professors1 is no rule for us1 8,what is that to thee1 follow thou me40--,matt4 xii3 #a-ae4 ,he shows that his disciples were 8guiltless for eating10 #gth v4 ,they were soon into their meeting2 see1 he's at work immediately1 #acth v42 see ,luke xiii3 #aa-ag1 healing the woman2 how withering his reply to his enemies1 #adth v4 ,i would that his adversaries were as much ashamed now2 #agth v4 ,see xiv4 chapter1 #a-f1 and #g-ad2 here he went in to eat bread on the ,sabbath day2 #ast v41 here he cures the dropsy and teaches them how to treat the poor1 c4 ,see also ,john v3 #a-bj1 and vii3 #ba-bd1 he shows that all of this is not 7servile work7 but works of mercy and necessity4 ,he even instructed his disciples1 ,jew and ,gentile1 respecting the sanctity of ,,the ,sabbath1 thirty-six years after his death1 ,matt4 xxiv3 #bj4 ,in chapter v1 he shows that the keeping of the law1 c41 will make us great in the kingdom of heaven1 #ag-ai4 ,then in #ch-dh verses1 shows us that under the ,gospel1 we are to follow his teachings and that we are now about to make the change from the ministration of ,moses to that of his own1 in the ,gospel4 ,do see how ,john puts it together1 ,rev4 xii3 #ag2 xiv3 #ab1 explained to be the spirit of prophecy1 in xix3 #aj4 ,now every law with respect to the keeping the commandments and of course the ,sabbath1 is embraced in the testimony of ,jesus4 ,the special messenger of the ,lord to the ,gentiles1 to teach them the abolition of ,moses's ministration in the law1 observed the ,sabbath in obedience to his master2 see ,acts xvii3 #b3 xiii3 #db-dd1 preaching to the ,gentiles1 #db v42 xvi3 #ac1 by the water side2 xviii3 #d1 every ,sabbath2 #aa v4 seventy-eight in succession4 ,luke records these1 many years after the law of ,moses was abolished4 ,john had his vision on the ,lord's day4 ,jesus never claimed any day for his1 but the seventh-day ,sabbath1 ,mark ii3 #bh2 neither did his ,father1 ,exo4 xx3 #aj4 ,therefore1 in following the authority and example of ,god1 ,jesus ,christ1 and the holy ,apostles1 we shall meet our glorious king with clear consciences4 ,we never need to fear of keeping the holy and sanctified ,sabbath day too strict4 ,we cannot keep it holy1 nor acceptable1 if we employ men or beasts to labor for us on that day1 neither printers1 postmasters1 nor carriers4 ,the day is not ours1 it is the ,lord's3 follow the ,scripture rule1 and the ,sabbath will be a delight to us1 and ,god will sanctify and save4 ,,the ,,beginning ,,of ,,the ,,sabbath4 ,here1 also1 we cannot be too particular2 ,god claims every moment of his day4 ,out of one hundred and sixty-eight hours in the week he claims twenty-four1 and gives man the balance1 one hundred and forty-four1 to do his servile work4 ,according to the record of ,moses1 in ,gen4 i3 #b1 ,god commenced the motion of this ,planet from a chaotic state of darkness1 and sent it flying round the sun at the rate of about fifty-eight thousand miles per hour4 ,he 8divided the light from the darkness1 and ,god called the light day1 and the darkness he called night1 and the evening and the morning were the first day10--#d1 #e4 ,god 8made the sun and the moon2 the sun to rule the day1 and the moon the night1 to divide the light from darkness40 ,jesus says 8are there not twelve hours in the day80 ,well1 then1 there must be twelve hours in the night1 to make a twenty-four hour day1 and it must be equally divided1 for us to keep the weeks correct4 ,for example--say now the first of ,jan41 the inhabitants of the north pole have no sun1 while those at the south have the sun all the twenty-four hours2 now as we approximate to the centre or middle of the globe from the south pole1 we shorten the days1 but from the north we shorten the nights2 when arrived at the centre1 or under the sun1 7the great time piece for the inhabitants of all the earth1 ,deut4 iv3 #ai17 we find the days and nights are equal4 ,at the beginning of the sacred year1 for the passover1 the sun rises at #f ,a4 ,m4 and sets at #e ,p4 ,m41 and there is not an inhabitant on any part of this globe that can regulate the time for day1 or night without admitting the polar distance into his calculation1 which is #ij from the centre4 ,this at once shows that all the way we can calculate time is by calculating from the centre of the earth1 and also bringing the sun there1 if his declination be north or south4 ,therefore by the same rule 7and no other17 we regulate the weeks1 and must of necessity begin the scripture day at #f ,p4 ,m41 or else being in one place1 we never have two ,sabbaths begin at one time4 ,says the objector we might begin at sunset4 ,if so1 no two persons could keep the same time except they were directly north or south of each other4 ,but can they keep the same time all over the globe if they begin at six ,p4 ,m48 ,yes1 certainly4 ,for example4--,jerusalem being about #ij1 or fifty-four hundred geographical miles east of us1 makes a difference of six hours2 it is six ,p4 ,m4 with them when it is noon day with us2 their ,sabbath closes then1 six hours before it does with us--but it is at six o'clock ,p4 ,m4 there4 ,and so when the ,sabbath closes here1 although it is precisely the same hour of the day1 viz4 six ,p4 ,m41 and in like manner all round the globe4 ,hence the necessity of beginning the twenty-four hour day at sun set from the centre of the earth4 ,we are told that we cannot keep time right1 because men1 who circumnavigate the globe1 make a difference of twenty-four hours in time4 ,well1 suppose men could girt the globe with their magnetic wires1 so that half of the inhabitants of the ,united ,states could pass clear round ten times a day1 what odds would that make to the motion of the globe4 ,this looks like another snare of ,satan4 ,the change from old to new style1 they say1 if eleven days are taken from the calender then that certainly has changed the seventh day1 but some how or other it does not affect the first day1 ,sunday4 ,how is it done8 say some two hundred members in the ,british ,parliament on ,thursday1 at six ,p4 ,m4 the first day of ,jan4 pass a unanimous vote by uplifted hands that we drop eleven days from the calendar4 ,now all the change here1 is1 it is now a few minutes past six ,p4 ,m4 on the same ,thursday night called the eleventh of ,jan4 ,god never stopped the earth's motion one moment to listen to them4 ,this certainly did not effect the day of the week1 any more than the sun's standing still a whole day1 that being true also1 at #d ,p4 ,m41 did not prevent them from counting ,friday when it came4 ,if he stood still for twenty-four hours1 then no time would be lost to us1 for ,friday could not come until six1 ,p4 ,m41 two hours after he started again4 ,if it had been less than twenty-four hours then must it be regulated4 ,the shadow going back ten degrees or forty minutes on the dial of ,ahas1 78not ten hours107 was another miracle1 but it remains to be proved that the sun went back4 ,if any thing could possibly affect the time before the christian era1 ,jesus certainly had the correct time1 the ,sabbath before he was crucified4 ,astronomers can find no change since4 ,if the christian era was four years out of date1 it does not follow that the day of the week has changed since ,god instituted the ,sabbath in ,paradise4 ,gen4 first chapter teaches when the sun is up it is day or morning2 when he is down it is night1 or evening4 ,god reckoned the first six days from evening to morning2 but further on1 in the history of the world1 he says 8from even to even shall you celebrate your ,sabbath10 or rest4 ,this proves that every day in the week began at evening2 so it must continue while we have day and night4 ,surely ,god has done all things well1 but man has sought out many inventions4 ,god help the little flock to follow the truth1 and 8,remember the ,sabbath day and keep it holy40 ,amen4 ,,the ,,last ,,experiment ,,on ,,definite ,,time2 ,,the ,,prolonging ,,of ,,the ,,days ,,all ,,failed4 ,in #ahdc1 the ,herald and ,midnight ,cry for many months stated that all the signs preparatory to the second coming of ,christ1 were in the past4 ,soon after the passing of the time in #ahdd1 they changed their minds and told us that we had but 8just entered upon the ground of disputed chronology and that we should be justified in looking with more and more confidence to the extreme boundary of #ahdg1 the extreme point of time in dispute40--,see ,advent ,harbinger1 ,sept4 #bhth1 #ahdg4 ,on the strength of this1 ,a4 ,hale came out with his definite time--,,last ,,experiment4 ,well1 we have now come to ,jan4 #ahdh1 and all has failed4 ,what is the matter8 ,answer--the disputed time was properly named2 there is no truth in it4 ,it is all a perfect failure2 hence all their boasting ends with it4 ,we say the cry at midnight1 was right1 and the appointed time did end in the fall of #ahdd1 as shown in the ,way ,marks4 ,we will now try some further proof1 and still farther that their confessions and reorganization have fairly led them into the ,laodocean state of the ,church4 ,they say that ,christ may come any time2 this is the teaching of all three of the ,editors1 and some of them talk loudly about the ending of the #bcjj days1 at that point of time4 ,how vain to assert that the #bcjj days will end here1 the first of ,january4 ,it is well known that the spring1 or fall is the only place ever fixed for their ending4 ,those who believe that ,christ was crucified any where but in the middle of the week are teaching1 as ,h4 ,h4 ,gross1 that his advent will be in the spring4 ,those who still believe in the types1 and that ,christ was crucified in the midst or half of the week can see no place for the ending of the #bcjj days or the advent of ,jesus1 but in the seventh month4 ,neither can the #fjjj years end any where but in the seventh month2 the proof is clear in ,gen4 i3 #aa1 #ab1 and #bi1 that the seed and fruit was ripe for the harvest when ,god finished his six days2 proof1 ,adam and ,eve partook of it4 ,it is also perfectly clear that ,god changed the beginning of the year from thence to the first month1 to commence the feasts of the ,lord and the types to which we have1 and still may1 refer2 see ,exo4 xii3 #b2 xiii3 #c1 #d2 xxxiv3 #ah2 ,deut4 xvi3 #a4 ,this was the beginning of months and the beginning of the year1 the passover month4 ,now we say here1 according to the scriptures1 ,christ was crucified on the #adth day of ,abib1 or ,april1 in the midst 7or middle7 of the week1 meaning the last week of the seventy4 ,this is just #dhf- years2 then the balance eighteen hundred and thirteen and a half years more1 would just make the #bcjj days1 or years4 ,now carry the half year from the ,passover to the fall of the seventh month1 then you will have just #ahac full years to come4 ,then1 of course1 every full year unto the last1 must end here2 and it is not in the power of man to make them end any where else1 but in the seventh month4 ,neither is it in the power of any adventist1 who says he believes in the speedy coming of ,christ1 to show any thing about their ending1 since ,oct4 #ahdd1 because we never have1 and it is not likely we ever shall know of any other place or point1 for their ending4 ,if the beating of the air1 three years1 has proved a failure1 and made the subject gross darkness1 what can be expected from a farther experiment4 ,if any one disputes this point1 he will confer a great favor by showing where they do end4 ,there is one more point2 that is1 ,god's people are now in their trial foretold by prophets and apostles2 and in their every day experience4 ,if they deny this1 then they cannot look for ,jesus1 because that trial must take place here in time2 and according to the type1 it must be while ,jesus our great high priest is cleansing the sanctuary--for by turning to ,lev4 xxiii3 #bg-cb verses1 we see the type of affliction was always on the tenth day of the seventh month1 in the day of atonement1 and it continued all the time that the high priest was in the most holy place1 cleansing the sanctuary4 ,the reason for this is obvious2 if we turn to ,lev4 xvi3 #ae--8;,and he shall make an atonement for the holy place because of the uncleanness of the children of ,israel1 and because of their transgressions in all their sins10 c42 see also #bi-cd verses1 particularly the #cjth verse4 ,then the true meaning of the cleansing of the sanctuary is1 ,christ our high priest in the sanctuary which the ,lord pitched and not man2 ,heb4 xiii3 #b1 that is1 the new ,jerusalem in the heavens1 making atonement1 or blotting out the sins of his true waiting people2 and while he is doing this1 they are in their trial4 8,here is the patience of the ,saints10 as it was in the type referred to1 with this difference--their day and trial and atonement was 8from even to even10 just twenty-four hours1 whereas ours is to be from the tenth 8day of the seventh month1 until ,god roars out of ,zion and utters his voice from ,jerusalem10 then ,jerusalem will be holy1 the atonement will be finished4--,joel iii3 #af1 #ag--;,god's people be cleansed1 sealed1 and the captivity of ,zion turned4 ,this will be the shaking of the ,heavens and the earth1 the sea and all nations4 ,matt4 xxiv3 #bi2 ,amos i3 #b2 ,hagg4 ii3 #f-g2 ,jer4 xxv3 #cj1 #ca2 ,heb4 xii3 #bf2 ,eze4 xiii3 #be1 #bh4 ,according to the signs given by ,jesus1 the next after this will be the sign of the son of man in heaven2 8,and then the son of man40--,matt4 xxiv3 #cj4 ,but as the world is to be taken by surprise1 8crying peace and safety10 they will not long be troubled with the shaking of the heavens and earth1 it will pass from the mind1 most likely1 as has the cry at mid-night1 so that after this1 ,christ will 8come as a thief40 ,but ,i do not design now to take up the argument1 but merely refer to these points to show our position4 ,for further reference1 see ,way ,marks4 ,i now propose to show the certain failure and confusion of all those ,adventists who have denied the past1 and the ending of the #bcjj days4 ,as ,i have already shown1 they have prolonged1 or1 as in ,prov4 x3 #bg1 8added to the days40 ,the #bcjj days1 all the time from where they ended1 ,oct4 #ahdd1 to the extreme end of #ahdg1 which would be three and a half years4 ,hosea calls this removing the bounds2 well1 we see they have finally moved them #abfj days4 ,but ,god calls to ,ezekiel and says3 8,what is that proverb that ye have in the land of ,israel1 saying the days are prolonged1 and every vision faileth4 ,tell them therefore1 thus saith the ,lord ,god1 ,i will make this proverb to cease1 and they shall no more use it as a proverb in ,israel1 but say unto them the days are at hand and the effect of every vision1 for there shall be no more any vain vision1 nor faltering devination within the house of ,israel2 ,for ,i am the ,lord1 ,i will speak1 and the word that ,i shall speak shall come to pass2 ,it shall be no more prolonged1 for in your days1 ,o rebellious house1 ,i will say the word1 and will perform it1 saith the ,lord ,god0 xii3 #bb-be4 ,three things here we notice2 first1 that the effect of every vision is to fail with the rebellious house of ,israel4 ,this1 then1 most certainly includes the effect of ,daniel's vision on the second advent believers1 it is the effect of every vision4 ,the effect of ,john's vision fails with this4 ,now we actually know that the effect of ,daniel's vision since #ahdb1 has caused the whole world to tremble4 ,we have no account in history that any vision1 or all the visions of the prophets together1 ever began1 as it were1 to have such an ,,effect as was produced down to ,oct4 #ahdd4 ,from that time the effect began to cease4 ,second1 here at the end of the prolonging of the days then1 of this vision1 ,god is to speak4 ,it is well known that he never has spoken to the world since these prophets were born2 therefore this is in the future1 and right here at this point of time1 and after this effect1 and before the coming of ,jesus4 ,third1 then these days spoken of here are no other than the days of ,daniel's vision1 to measure time1 for ,ezekiel's vision nor any other vision given to the prophets1 have chronological time to mark their fulfillment1 save ,daniel's and ,john's4 ,respecting the rebellious house of ,israel1 the prophets plainly and emphatically describe them to be in these last days1 according to the texts above4 ,the #bgth and #bhth verses of this xii chapter of ,ezekiel1 is more emphatic still3 8,they of the house of ,israel 7same rebellious house17 say the vision that he seeth is for many days to come1 7yes1 it is already advocated that it is thirty years1 in the future17 he prophesieth of the times that are far off40 ,god says 8there shall none of my words be prolonged any more1 but the word which ,i have spoken shall be done saith the ,lord ,god40 ,here1 then1 if we will believe ,god1 no man after the prolonging of the days shall do it any more2 that is1 after the effect of the vision4 ,what is the sign8 ,answer--,god says1 ,he will ,,speak4 ,this1 then1 will end all the controversy4 ,now our history fully proves that the prolonging of the #bcjj days with the effect of the vision1 is claimed1 to the end of the ,jewish year of #ahdg1 this spring4 ,now mark this6 ,the rebellious house continue to say that these days1 say ,daniel's #bcjj1 will not end until the coming of ,christ1 and he may come any time4 ,i think ,i have proved conclusively that the #bcjj days cannot end any where but in the seventh month2 and the above scriptures and our history do clearly show that they have ended1 and the time has been prolonged to the end of #ahdg4 ,now the seventh month #ahdg1 is past1 and this was the last point in their land marks1 where the types1 or seventy weeks shows they could end4 ,it is impossible for any man to show their ending in the coming spring2 and they have by their own showing forever shut themselves out for saying it will be in the fall of #ahdh1 because this spring is the very extreme point to which the days are1 or can be1 prolonged4 ,here then1 ,i say1 according to the heading of this article1 their last experiment fails1 and fails them forever2 they have no point to guide them to now1 it is all gross darkness4 ,now if this is what the ,bible ,advocate calls 8following the word of ,god and sound reason10 ,i am glad that the shut door and ,sabbath believers1 are on the other side of the gulf1 with 8light in all of their dwellings40 ,now let ,zachariah1 the prophet1 finish this subject4 ,in his peculiar view of the wonderful things to take place in the last days from the tenth to the fourteenth chapter inclusive1 he says1 8,and it shall come to pass that in all the land1 saith the ,lord1 two parts therein shall be cut off and die1 but the third shall be left therein1 and ,i will bring the third part through the fire and will refine them as silver is refined1 and will try them as gold is tried2 they shall call on my name and ,i will hear them1 ,i ,,will ,,say ,,it ,,is ,,my ,,people2 and ,,they shall say ,,the ,,lord ,,is ,,my ,,god40--xiii3 #h1 #i4 ,here then1 is clearly pointed out the believers in the coming of ,christ2 a cry at mid-night shows first1 but two parts2 but before ,christ comes ,zachariah shows three parts4 ,now for the development of the history4 ,the first is already described1 by prolonging the days and denying the past4 ,the three papers ,advent ,herald1 ,advent ,harbinger and ,bible ,advocate1 are still advocating their views1 and as ,i have shown1 cut themselves off4 ,second1 class or part1 are the spiritualizers2 a large majority of which have joined the ,shakers1 whose faith is1 that ,christ came the second time in ,ann ,lee1 more than seventy years ago1 thus forever cutting themselves off from even looking for his personal appearing2 ,john calls them anti-christ--thus1 8,little children it is the last time1 and as ye have heard that anti-christ shall come1 even now are there many anti-christs 7i4 e4 don't believe in any ,christ--he is ,god1 and ,god is love1 c47 whereby we know it is the last time3 ,they went out from us1 but they were not of us2 for if they had been of us1 they would no doubt have continued with us2 but they went out that they be made manifest that they were not all of us4 ,who is a liar but he that denieth that ,jesus is the ,christ8 ,he is anti-christ that denieth the ,father and ,son40--#ast ,john ii3 #ah-bb verses4 ,john classes all such with liars1 and they are barred from the kingdom of heaven4 ,in the #aith verse he says1 8they were not ,,all of us40 ,this ,i think shows that some would see their error and repent4 ,john here embraces all such believers from his day to the last4 ,here1 then it is clearly manifest that this second part have cut themselves off6 ,the third part are now in the fire 7or fiery trial472 they are to be refined as silver1 and tried as gold2 they shall call on ,god1 and they will be his people4 ,they have nothing to boast of1 they have got to overcome 8by their perseverance40--,camp4 trans4 of ,luke xxi3 #ai4 ,jesus also distinguishes them from the other parts3 8,they have a little strength 7nothing to boast of17 and hast kept my word and hast not denied my name40 ,which one8 ,new name--,king of ,kings and ,lord of ,lords4--,rev4 iii3 #h1 #ab4 ,the first and second classes have denied his name4 ,the first say he is the ,mediator1 and therefore cannot have received his kingdom2 the second class have dissolved his name into vapor4 ,ninth verse shows they have got to bow to his third part1 because they have kept the word of his patience3 ,where is it shown that they do this8 ,answer--in ,rev4 xiv3 #abth verse1 8,here is the patience of the ,saints2 here are they that keep the commandments of ,god and the faith of ,jesus40 ,yes6 here are they who are denounced as 8door shutters0 and 8great sticklers for the seventh day ,sabbath1 in and out of almost every door but the right one1 following any thing but the word of ,god and sound reason60 triumphed at last4 ,how amazing these things appear2 not more so perhaps than to the prophets when looking down into our history and beholding this first class composed of the leading messengers and about all of the shepherds1 after leading the whole flock out into the most dangerous part of their journey1 desert1 denounce1 and betray them2 and then go and form themselves into a confederacy and positively disregard the message which ,god pressed upon them1 viz4 8,comfort ye1 comfort ye my people1 saith your ,god10 c4 ,i rejoice in my soul and praise the living ,god1 who is seated upon this ,great ,white ,throne in the height of his ,sanctuary in the heaven of heavens1 that ,i am still numbered in this third part4 ,call me what you please1 my feet are planted on the ,rock4 ,i had rather suffer affliction with the ,outcasts1 than enjoy the pleasures of sin with all other people4 ,praise the ,lord6 if faithful1 we shall soon enter the everlasting kingdom4 ,amen4 ,,christ',s ,,second ,,coming ,,to ,,gather ,,his ,,people4 ,according to the ,scriptures1 ,god will deliver his people out of the time of trouble that is now flying from the coasts of the earth1 and to all appearances forming a junction in this retributive land of blood and slavery2 by his ,,voice from heaven1 when he has sealed them1 and ,christ has made the atonement and fitted the mansions in the ,new ,jerusalem1 then they will be his chosen ones to execute the 8judgment written40 ,after this1 in the order of events1 the ,lord ,jesus 8will descend from heaven with a shout1 with the voice of the archangel1 and with the trump of ,god10 c4 ,when ,god speaks from ,jerusalem1 then1 ,i believe the 8wise will understand0 how long it will be before ,jesus comes4 8,the times and seasons are with the ,father40 ,i believe that the ,scriptures most clearly teach ,christ's second coming at the feast of ,tabernacles1 and no where else2 and that our history1 in the fulfillment of prophecy1 has been imperceptibly tending us there4 ,here is the chain in the types3 8,,three times a year shall ,,all thy males appear before the ,lord thy ,god40 ,these three feasts are typical of three of the most important events since the birth of our ,lord ,jesus ,christ1 and every advent believer should have a clear understanding of them4 #ast1 ,the feast of the ,passover2 #b;d1 ,feast of ,weeks2 #c;d1 ,feast of ,tabernacles4 ,first feast was the crucifixion of our ,lord at the ,passover1 on the #adth day of the first month1 at #c o'clock ,p4 ,m42 the very day and hour the lamb was offered in the type for sixteen hundred and seventy years4 ,second feast--the day of ,pentecost1 #afgj years from the time that the commandments were uttered by the voice of ,god1 in the morning4--,exo4 xix3 #af2 see ,acts ii3 #ae1 undoubtedly at the same hour4 ,now as these two feasts are perfectly fulfilled1 we have nothing further to do with them here2 only to say1 that ,god never taught any other way to find the fulfillment of these two most important events1 than by their typical observance4 ,third feast--on the #aeth of the seventh month2 the feast of the ,tabernacles4 ,this undoubtedly represents the gathering of all ,israel at the coming of ,christ2 the ingathering of the harvest2 the end of the #fjjj years3 the end of the world4 ,i see no other point of time for ,christ to come than at the feast2 see ,deut4 xvi3 #a-af3 ,lev4 xxiii2 ,num4 xxviii1 and xxix4 ,it cannot be possible that ,god has been so exact in the fulfillment of the first two1 to the very hour of the day1 and then left the other without order or time6 ,no1 no6 ,here is the gathering of all ,israel2 see ,lev4 xxiii3 #ci-dd4 ,now1 this being true1 all of the other events which precede this in this chapter1 must1 to harmonize with the types1 be fulfilled first4 ,now there are three types in this feast2 their harmony and order are as follows3 ,first1--#bdth verse is the memorial of trumpets4 ,this is the type of the sounding of the seventh trumpet2 there is nothing else for an anti-type--try and see4 ,than it is fulfilled1 by ,rev4 x3 #g--8;,in the days of the voice of the seventh angel1 when he shall begin to sound1 the ,mystery of ,god should be finished40 c4 ,this then1 we have shown1 sounded on the first day of the seventh month1 #ahdd4 ,here the virgins were divided1 and the wise ones got ready for the coming of the ,bridegroom to the marriage4 ,see ,way ,marks1 #ce to #cgth pages4 ,second type--#bgth verse--8,also on the #ajth day of the seventh month1 there shall be a day of atonement1--ye shall afflict your souls1 for whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day1 he shall be cut off from among his people40 ,this1 of course1 was artificial2 but it was a type to represent the tried state which the virgins in the parable entered into on the tenth day of this seventh month1 #ahdd1 when they see their ,lord did not come4 ,here is where the atonement commenced with the affliction1 and as they ended together in the type1 so we believe they will in the anti-type1 when ,god speaks from ,zion4--,joel iii3 #af1 #ag2 see ,way ,marks1 pp4 #eh1 #ei4 ,now it is certainly evident that ,god's people are in this very state4 ,this1 then1 according to the type1 proves the ,bridegroom as ,high ,priest1 officiating in the ,sanctuary1 making the atonement for this same people4 ,the third type in order1 and the last in this feast1 is the feast of ,tabernacles1 #cd-ci-ddth verses4 ,this is yet to come--the true point of our deliverance4 ,what a harmonious perfect chain is here4 ,just see first day of seventh month1 #ahdd2 the seventh trumpet sounds1 and the ,mystery of ,god is finished2 third wo come2 virgins divide2 on the tenth day of the same month1 ,bridegroom comes to the wedding2 marriage takes place2 door shut2 ,jubilee trumpet sounds to prepare for the ,jubilee and ,supper in the kingdom of heaven2 cleansing of the ,sanctuary commenced2 the virgins on their trial2 the appointed time1 the #bcjj days ended1 and a cry at midnight1 with all its messages4 ,if the seventh trumpet has began to sound1 then the rest have followed4 ,if the saints are now in their trial1 then1 the seventh trumpet must have sounded first1 or confusion would follow in the types4 ,destroy one link1 and the chain is broke4 ,take it in all its parts1 it is perfect1 harmonious1 and complete4 ,here1 too1 ,i understand1 ends all the days of ,daniel4 ,the chart is perfect1 and has answered its end4 ,the world here also received their last warning4 ,the ,gospel age ends2 the message is1 8comfort ye1 comfort ye my people40 ,if this was not all done before ,christ should come1 the scriptures would be broken4 ,it is perfect nonsense to talk of having these things done at his coming1 or after he comes4 ,tell me1 if you can1 how ,christ can atone for his people in the ,holiest of ,holies1 at his coming8 ,and then tell me where the saints are to be on their trial1 if they wait his coming first8 ,tell me1 if you can1 where you will place the third wo1 which brings in the time of trouble1 of which the saints are to be delivered8 ,tell me1 if you can1 how1 and for what purpose the seventh messenger will begin to sound his trumpet1 while ,jesus is sounding the trump of ,god1 and shouting for his saints to leave the earth in a moment8 ,and as the seventh messenger is some of the living saints1 tell me1 if you can1 how they will have time even to turn and say the ,mystery of ,god is finished8 ,tell me1 if you can1 why ,god is going to have every thing in confusion at that day1 when he has always had perfect order in heaven and earth1 ever since the creation8 ,two things to be kept in remembrance3 ,,first--,the #aath chapter of ,revelations does not teach the coming of ,christ in the spring1 nor at any other point4 ,,second--,the ingathering of all ,israel after the ,voice of ,god is most clearly taught to be at the feast of ,tabernacles1 the last type in the feast1 yet unfulfilled4 ,all the others that have been1 and are now fulfilling in these feasts of the ,lord1 have been tested to the day1 and even to the hour of the day4 ,a ,,correction4 ,i perceive that ,i have made a mis-statement1 on page #ef1 #acth line2 also page #ei1 sixth line from the top1 in calling the #aeth day of the first month1 a holy convocation day1 instead of the #adth1 which always commenced at the beginning of the #adth day and ended where the #bast began4--,exo4 xii3 #ah4 ,the wafe sheaf also1 was to be waved on ,sunday morning1 the morrow after the ,lord's ,sabbath--,lev4 xxiii3 #c1 #aa--;all which makes the resurrection on the third day as clear as light--two nights and three days4 ,,seventh ,,fourteenth ,,of ,,revelations4 ,a further ,history of the ,second ,advent ,doctrine1 from its commencement to the treading of the ,wine ,press1 c4 ,with ,the ,one ,hundred ,and ,forty-,four ,thousand ,living ,saints1 ,which ,are ,to ,be ,gathered ,at ,the ,second ,coming ,of ,jesus1 ,from ,every ,nation1 ,kindred1 ,tongue1 ,and ,people2 ,especially ,those ,that ,are ,now ,occupying ,the ,position ,referred ,to ,in ,the ,twelfth ,and ,thirteenth ,verses ,of ,the ,fourteenth ,chapter4 ,second ,advent ,history4 ,in the fourteenth chapter of ,revelations1 ,john gives a most graphic delineation of the ,second ,advent movement1 from its rise in about #ahdj1 to a glorious state of immortality4 ,he begins to describe from this never-to-be-over-looked1 wonderful picture of the last days1 forming1 and changing in quick succession1 under the deep impressions made on the heart1 by the heavenly flying messengers1 saying with loud voices--the hour of his judgment is come2 and reminds one in some of its features1 in the changing of positions1 of that last dreadful conflict of nations1 on the plains of ,waterloo1 which decided the fate of ,europe4 ,so here1 in this last great conflict of contending armies1 ,john1 in his vision1 hears a glorious voice1 see i3 #ae and xix3 #f4 and harpers harping with their harps4 ,his eye is turned to the point from whence came the heavenly music1 and he beholds a glorified company1 with their ,,invincible ,commander1 standing away up on the ,mount ,zion1 that had followed him through his fiery trying conflict1 and he had brought them off victorious1 and clothed them with immortality and everlasting life2 and the ,father had stamped 8his name in their foreheads10 and they numbered #add1jjj1 redeemed from the earth2 all the living saints that are saved out of the mighty host of nations4 ,now read the first five verses of this chapter and methinks you will agree with me1 that ,john is here describing the character of the #add1jjj as he had seen them sealed1 as stated in the seventh chapter2 where he closes their history with the #hth verse1 to describe the dead saints1 and seven angels with their trumpets1 and the effect produced by them1 from the #gth chapter1 #ith verse to the #abth chapter4 ,then in the #abth and #acth chapters1 the dragon1 the beast and his image1 c41 c4 ,and then he takes up the history of this same #add1jjj1 from where he had seen them sealed in the #gth chapter1 #d-h verses2 and begins by describing them sealed and redeemed from the earth1 in company with the ,lamb--the ,lord ,jesus4 ,from the #fth to the #adth verse1 he gives the outline of what they had been passing through1 and the mighty host with whom they had been engaged4 ,it will here be remembered that this message1 or proclamation of 8the hour of his judgment10 has gone to every nation and tongue1 and people2 therefore as ,jesus has stated that his elect are to be gathered from the four winds1 or from one end of heaven to the other1 then his #add1jjj will be composed of all nations1 particularly the poor ignorant1 but honest hearted ,slaves of this doomed country4 ,but more especially those described in the #abth verse1 walking out in their faith of all the living present truth4 ,an objection may arise with some2 still1 supposing that the #add1jjj1 because they are named after the tribes of ,jacob in the #gth chapter1 they cannot mean the ,israel of these last days4 ,micah1 speaking of ,jesus1 says1 8,he is to be the ruler in ,israel40--v3 #a-b4 ,gabriel said he would 8reign over the house of ,jacob forever40--,luke i3 #cc4 ,paul says 8they are not all ,israel that are of ,israel20 8,if ye be ,christ's then are ye ,abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise40 ,when ,john was afterwards giving a description of the holy city1 he even saw the names of the twelve tribes of the children of ,israel inscribed on the twelve gates4 ,this agrees with the description in the #gth chapter1 and makes a perfect harmony when we understand that this vision was sixty years after the introduction of the gospel1 when the church was the whole ,israel of ,god4 ,the other view would give the literal seed of ,jacob full possession of the city2 the gates being theirs by the titles on them4 ,this would make a division wall there1 and ,god would be a respecter of persons4 ,the gentiles could have no claim there2 thus their joint heirship with ,christ would fail and so would this ,revelation2 for ,john was directed to 8show 7us7 things which would shortly come to pass40--i3 #a2 and to 8write the things which thou hast seen1 and the things which are1 and the things which shall be hereafter0 in the churches1 in the future4--xxii3 #af4 ,so we see this vision was all of the present and future2 besides the tribes of literal ,israel had before this been rejected and were to 8be trodden down until the times of the gentiles were fulfilled40 ,to make the #adth chapter more plain1 in respect to the #add1jjj1 we will try to give an exposition of the #gth4 8,and after these things1 ,i saw four ,angels standing on the four corners of the earth1 holding the four winds of the earth1 that the wind should not blow on the earth1 nor on the sea1 nor on any tree4 ,and ,i saw another angel ascending from the east having the seal of the living ,god2 and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was given to hurt the earth1 and the sea2 saying hurt not the earth1 neither the sea1 nor the trees till we have sealed the servants of our ,god in their foreheads40--#a-c4 ,i believe the general view of these four angels being the four leading governments see #ith chapter #ad1 #ae verses1 is correct with the exceptions of ,prussia or ,rome1 because neither of those nations have any maritime force on the sea4 ,great ,britain1 ,france1 ,russia1 and the ,united ,states of ,north ,america1 possess this power over all seas1 and the most part of ,christendom4 ,our not being a party in the great christian alliance at the downfall of ,napoleon ,bonaparte1 in #ahae1 neither in #ahdj1 at the fall of the ,ottoman ,empire1 will not1 ,i think1 effect this point2 but being one of these four messengers1 will make it clear1 at least so far as relates to the flying messengers and their work1 and our power on the sea4 ,who does this sealing angel ascending from the east represent8 ,answer--,i think some of the very same flying messengers brought to view in xiv3 #f1 #g1 and x and xviii chapters4 ,if messengers in the form1 and fashion of men1 symbolically represented as flying through the midst of heaven1 preaching the gospel to men1 and 8being clothed with clouds10 rainbows and pillars of fire1 lighting up the earth with their glory2 standing upon the sea1 and land1 crying as when a lion roareth1 that time should be no longer2 are called angels1 ,i see not1 nor know of any other exposition of this second verse4 ,if it is contended that an invisible angel is here described1 then1 according to the #ith chapter1 #dth verse1 it was done in like manner to individuals in the thirteenth century4 ,,ascending from the east1 or sun's rising4 ,i think this does not mean rise up out of1 c41 as in chapter #acth1 or ascending in a similar manner1 as in chapter xvii3 #h1 but rather the following1 for instance3 these northern and middle ,states1 and the ,canadas1 are now and have been the location of almost all the flying messengers1 and the burden of their messages1 as represented in the #adth chapter4 ,william ,miller began to proclaim the message from the west1 7,low ,hampton47 ,and now to reverse it1 the sealing messenger is seen ascending from the eastern1 the ,atlantic ,states1 bounded by the broad ocean1 of nearly three thousand miles1 which1 when looking to the east1 as ,john did at sun rising1 would give the appearance of the sun's rising out of the water but a few miles off4 ,owing to the round surface of our globe1 every #ae1 or nine hundred miles that we sail from hence to the east1 the sun appears ascending from his ocean bed one hour earlier in the morning4 ,this is familiar to the mariner2 as also when they discover another ship1 they cry1 8sail ho60 ,why8 ,because the top of her sails are only seen1 but as they approach each other1 ascending up1 as it were1 out of the ocean bed1 the lower sails1 and then the hull1 and soon after the men are distinctly seen upon her decks4 ,if we look farther east for this sealing angel or messenger1 even to ,great ,britain1 or still onward to the northern coast of ,china1 we shall find none that have been so much engaged in the work of ,god as those above described4 ,but if it is still insisted upon1 that this sealing angel is invisible1 then we shall fail to know when we are sealed4 ,but ,i think that it is a work to be done here1 and the saints will understand when they are sealed or marked as readily as they did when they were rejoicing because they had got the victory over the beast and his image1 on the sea of glass 7or more sure word of prophecy47 ,rev4 xv3 #b4 ,this was their sectarian profession that bound them in ,babylon2 and now their second advent profession1 as in ,rev4 xiv3 #ab1 if adhered to1 will bind them to ,jesus and seal1 or mark1 them for the city2 see xxii3 #ad4 ,ezekiel had a prefiguration of this1 in his vision of the man clothed in linen with a writer's inkhorn by his side1 passing through the city1 marking ,god groaning1 sorrowing children1 7ix3 #b1 #d1 #aa17 preparatory to the awful slaughter that was immediately to follow2 with the strict charge not to touch them that had the mark 7or seal7 in their foreheads2--just as it will be in the last days1 when the #add1jjj1 all of the living children1 are sealed with the seal of the living ,god in their foreheads1 having been marked or sealed in a similar manner1 and by the remnant of the messengers that four years ago were writing1 lecturing and exhorting the people of ,god to get clear of the mark of the beast by coming out of ,babylon1 because she had fallen2 developing their true profession1 or christian character1 even then1 by the help of the marking iron1 7the steel pen and stamping type17 with the ink from the writer's ink horn2 with this difference1 that this simultaneous sealing of the #add1jjj will show such a clear development of christian character in their lives and shining foreheads 7or faces17 that it will be clearly understood that ,jesus has redeemed them from all iniquity1 by purifying 8unto himself a peculiar people1 ,,zealous ,,of ,,good ,,works40 ,these good works1 methinks1 will be something more than simply saying we believe the ,lord is coming4 ,yes1 says ,malachi1 when by his prophetic spirit1 he saw ,jesus 8making up his jewels10 at this point of time1 8then shall ye return and discern between the righteous and the wicked1 between him that serveth ,god and him that serveth him not40 8,in the latter 7or last7 days ye shall consider it perfectly40--,jer4 ,then 8he that is unjust1 let him be so1 and he that is righteous1 let him be so still1 and behold ,i come quickly1 c40--,rev4 xxii3 #aa1 #ab4 ,this sealing process1 then1 ,i understand to be going on with the little flock1 progressing in accordance with the last eight years' peculiar labor in their experience1 and will be completed and approbated by ,god in the agonizing time of ,daniel's and ,jacob's trouble1 and proclaimed to the world by ,god's roaring out of ,zion1 and uttering his voice from ,jerusalem2 then he will be the hope of his people2 7see ,joel iii47 then their atonement will be finished1 the ,sanctuary cleansed1--#afth and #agth verses2 8,zion's captivity turned20 8their mouths filled with laughter20 8the jewels made up10 and the wise will understand the time of their coming deliverer47#c7 ,the four ,angels4--,how does the sealing angel1 or messenger1 ascending from the east1 cry with a loud voice to these four angels or governments of messengers1 to 8hurt not the earth1 neither the sea1 nor the trees10 c4 ,in the first place1 ,i understand that symbolic prophecies have literal statements interspersed1 which serve as a key for the rest3 i4 e4 they have a mixed character2 for instance1 earth and sea here1 literal2 trees1 symbolical2 meaning those that are marked1 or sealed2 the professed people of ,god--followers of ,jesus4 ,see the clear proof under the sounding of the fifth trumpet by the ,turks1 in ch4 ix3 #dth verse3 8they were not to hurt any tree1 but only those ,,men which have not the seal of ,god in their foreheads40 ,this proves the trees to symbolize the followers of ,god2 see also ,hosea xiv3 #h4 ,again1 it is said that these four messengers were to 8hold the wind from blowing on the earth1 sea1 or any tree40 ,by the wind1 ,i understand as ,paul teaches the ,eph4 iv3 #ad1 8every wind of doctrine and cunning craftiness1 and slight of men to deceive1 and lead nations into carnage1 war and bloodshed20 see also ii3 #b1 8being led by the ,prince of the power of the air1 working in men disobedience1 according to the course of this world40 ,after the last great battle of nations at ,waterloo1 in #ahae1 then these blood-thirsty1 conquering crowned heads1 formed themselves into what they called a christian alliance1 showing that there was now peace with all the world2 since which time they and our own government have been petitioned or prayed to by those who professed to be the followers of the ,prince of ,peace1 to abolish the wicked practice with themselves1 and thereby restrain all other nations4 ,now let us learn the difference between the trees1 7professors or followers of the ,prince of ,peace17 and servants of ,god which are now to be sealed1 viz4 the #add1jjj4 ,thousands on thousands of these professors or trees since this work began1 have died1 and probably one hundred times that number have turned traitors1 by deserting their leader and commander1 while the great mass of advent believers1 which stamped this truth upon them1 7the nominal church7 in ,oct4 #ahdd1 have since that time1 also turned into the enemy's ranks1 leaving the remnant to finish up the work4 ,the great majority of these professors were once under the right banner1 but the winnowing fan of their great leader has left them with the chaff1 so that the voice of the remaining messengers1 some of whom were sending these petitions to the four governments1 and their prayers to ,god to restrain these wicked practices1 have become so feeble and disregarded by their former associates1 that the ,devil1 seeing his time is short1 is now hard at work marshalling his united forces throughout the world1 for a mighty victory2 and these four messengers are his principle dependence to 8gather the whole world to the battle of that great day of ,god ,almighty10 but it will not become general until the #add1jjj saints are sealed4 ,here1 then1 ,i understand1 that the professed followers of the ,prince of ,peace1 7symbolized as trees17 have been crying with a loud voice by their petitions1 which is the symbol for prayer1 see xiv3 #ae1 #ah1 and ,matt4 xxvii3 #df1 praying these four messengers that have power on all lands1 and all seas1 not to make any more war1 either on the land or on the sea1 nor with the professed people of the ,prince of ,peace1 by disregarding their petitions4 ,i know not in what other way these four nations could be prayed to as represented in the second verse4 ,now the #add1jjj are sealed4 ,then ,john brings us to the resurrection4 ,the #ith verse says1 after this1 7mark this point17 ,i beheld1 and lo1 a great multitude which no man could number of all nations and kindreds1 and people and tongues stood before the throne1 clothed in white1 with palms in their hands1 c4 ,these ,i understand are all the sleeping saints from ,abel down to the very last one that falls asleep here4 ,their having palms in their hands1 and robed in white1 looks to me like the perfect uniformity there will be with them1 and the #add1jjj that have never died1 that ,i believe will be redeemed right from1 or at1 the time for the feast of ,tabernacles1 and form a perfect phalanx1 rending the air with their shouts while they are mounting up with wings as eagles to meet their glorified king and ,lord2 see xix3 #ad2 ,lev4 xxiii3 #ci-dd4 ,here1 they will serve ,god day and night in his temple4--#aeth verse4 ,therefore all the work that is pointed out here in ,revelations for the messengers1 7called angels17 to perform1 will all be accomplished here before ,christ comes4 ,now we will turn again to the ,,fourteenth ,,chapter ,,of ,,rev41 ,,first ,,to ,,fourteenth ,,verse4 8,and ,i looked1 and lo1 a lamb stood on the ,mount ,zion1 and with him an hundred forty and four thousand2 having his ,father's name written in their foreheads4--,and ,i heard a voice from heaven as the voice of many waters40 ,please turn back now to the beginning of the subject #aith page1 you will see it is the ,father's name written in their foreheads--i4 e41 they are now sealed--got through with their patient waiting time1 and are marked with the name of ,god2 see iii3 #aj-ab4 ,in the #b;d verse is the voice2 this ,i understand is ,god speaking after the saints are sealed1 or ,christ and the saints2 see i3 #ae1 and xix3 #f1 as presented on the #ifth page4 8,and they sung as it were a new song before the throne--no man could sing that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand1 which were redeemed from the earth40 ,margin says1 bought4 ,now mark6 these were bought from the earth1 and they sung a song that no man could learn4 ,this must have been one which they had learned in their united experience1 something like the song of ,moses on the banks of deliverance from the ,egyptians4 ,no other people could have sung the song because it was the song of their deliverance1 for as ,i have stated these first five verses show this #add1jjj in their immortal state1 8redeemed from the earth10 7not out of it47 8,these are they which were not defiled with women40 8,the woman which thou sawest is the great city which reigneth over the kings of the earth40--xvii3 #ah1 called ,babylon1 7the nominal churches74 ,these1 then1 were the same ones that had come out of the churches2 see #h-aa verses1 and xv3 #b verse4 ,if the other view is insisted upon1 then all of this #add1jjj must be men and the women would have no part in that number--no matter where they are said to come from--8for they are virgins40 ,being clear of the harlot mother and her children2 and of those in the parable of the ten virgins that went into the marriage of the ,bridegroom makes them emphatically so4 8,these are they which follow the lamb whithersoever he goeth40 ,the above shows that they did follow him1 and ,john shows that they do now in their glorified state2 see xix chapter1 #adth verse4 8,these ,,were redeemed from among men being the first fruits unto ,god and to the lamb40--#dth verse4 ,redeemed or bought from among men 7not from among the dead7 nor from out of the earth1 but from 8among men and from the earth40 ,the first fruits cannot be until the harvest1 and that cannot be until ,jesus comes to reap it with his sharp sickle1 see #adth and #aeth verses2 remember too1 that the description ,john is here giving1 is the #add1jjj with ,jesus1 after he has reaped the harvest of the earth4 ,see how perfectly it harmonizes with the type of ,jesus being the first fruits1 to ,god1 or handful of the first harvest of barley to represent his resurrection2 since which time he has been laboring with his ,father for this very harvest4 ,to have the figure harmonize the fruit must come at the harvest time1 not the seed time4 ,this is the first fruits unto ,god and to the ,lamb conjointly4 ,the dead saints are no where that ,i know of represented as fruits1 before the resurrection4 ,this then is the harmonious view2 but we will look at the view which the ,bible ,advocate and others1 have shown1 that the #add1jjj shown here1 were the saints that came out of their graves after the resurrection4--,matt4 xxvii3 #eb1 #ec2 and we are told that 8,eph4 iv3 #h1 is to the point40 8,when he ascended upon high he led captivity captive0--,margin says1 a multitude of captives1 but this marginal reading so much relied on for their proof by the mark thus 717 shows it to be the view of the bible translators4 ,now to get the clear view1 turn to the #fhth ,ps4 #ahth verse1 from where ,paul quoted4 ,here the marginal reading marked thus ,heb4 shows it to be the original1 the inspired word4 ,now let us read--8,thou hast led captivity captive--thou hast received gifts in the man1 7in ,jesus7 yea1 for the rebellious also40 ,this changes the meaning1 and would make this multitude of captives rebellious saints4 ,surely ,jesus took no such present as this to his ,father2 therefore there will be no more necessity for straining the plain text in ,cor4 xv3 #bj1 #bc4 ,this text is clear1 emphatic1 and repeated2 which distinctly teaches ,christ the first fruits of them that slept2 afterwards they that are ,christ's at his coming1 when both the dead and living will be the first fruits to ,god and the lamb conjointly4 ,to harmonize the type1 the saints at ,christ's second coming are the next or second fruits to ,god at the second or last harvest in the #gth month1 the revolution1 or ingathering of the year1 the feast of ,tabernacles4 ,another writer ,j4 ,porter1 states1 that ,jesus took these saints that arose at ,jerusalem right up to his ,father1 and then received his power1 and returned the same day2 and he might also have added1 travelled with the two to ,emmaus1 seven and a half miles2 and as others will have it1 was back time enough to keep the whole day with his disciples1 for the first ,sabbath after his resurrection4 ,if we really want the truth1 ,god will give it to us1 but not by rejecting other truths4 ,now let us see whether the description of character given in these five verses of the #add1jjj1 will apply to the saints that arose in ,jerusalem at the resurrection4 ,in the first place1 these were never numbered4 ,second--,the record is entirely silent about their being united in their trials and experience1 to sing a peculiar song of their own4 ,third--,these were not redeemed from among men1 on the earth1 but out from among the dead4 ,fourth1--,they could not be the first fruit before the harvest1 for ,paul says1 8,christ the first fruits1 afterwards they that are ,christ's at his coming10 7second coming17 not them that were his at his going away at his first advent1--first harvest4 ,that would be a clear perversion of the text2 we must wait for the second harvest for the next fruit1 #gth month4 ,fifth--,to say that they were virgins1 and not defiled with women1 is only admitting what we know nothing about4 ,sixth--,john saw the messenger that sealed1 and says the number was #add1jjj2 all this1 was sixty years after what transpired at ,jerusalem4 ,this is out of the limits of his vision2 and what will1 and does forever1 destroy this erroneous view1 is1 that the four winds are to be holden by the four ,angel nations1 until the whole number were sealed1 and they have not let go yet2 unless it can be proved that it was done #ahjj years ago4 ,that old ,jerusalem was called a holy place2 see ,exo ix3 #h2 ,acts vi3 #ac2 also the testimony of ,jesus1 ,matt4 xxiv3 #ae4 ,lastly--,if it is objected that these are the living saints to be redeemed at the second advent1 then we fail to find them described in this vision1 which would destroy the chain of wonders which he saw respecting the living and the dead1 with the varied and changing scenes through which they were continually passing4 ,now1 how simple1 plain1 and harmonious these verses appear when we apply them down at the end of all things1 where they were seen in this vision1 and where they most certainly belong4 ,the #eth verse shows them without fault before the throne1 clearly in their redeemed and immortal state4 ,here then is the true description of their characters4 ,in the next seven verses from #f to #ac1 ,john describes ,,their ,,labors ,,in ,,the ,,messages4 8,and ,i saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven1 having the everlasting gospel to preach1 unto them that dwell on the earth1 and to every nation1 and kindred1 and tongue1 and people1 saying with a loud voice1 fear ,god and give glory to him1 for the hour of his judgment is come40 ,this is so plain that all who have been engaged and laboring in the ,second ,advent ,doctrine must admit it to represent ,william ,miller1 and those of his faith1 as the flying messengers preaching the advent of ,jesus to their fellow men1 since #ahdj4 ,invisible angels never yet preached the gospel to men2 but as it has been here--man preaching to man1--then these angels represent our own neighbors1 preaching1 lecturing1 and exhorting us with loud voices to listen to their message1 for the judgment was at hand4 ,he says he 8saw another angel40 ,where did he see the first one1 then8 ,answer--,in his description of the trumpets1 viii3 #ac1 thus he carries our minds back to the simple narration of the first description of these messengers and receivers out of which were sealed #add1jjj1 in #gth chapter4 ,this message has gone to every nation1 kindred1 tongue and people4 8,and there followed another angel saying ,babylon is fallen1 is fallen10 c41 #hth verse4 ,this fallen city1 we say1 was the nominal churches1 embracing all of the professed followers of the prince of peace2 and they have fallen1 because they rejected this first message at the hour of ,god's judgment1 and shut it out of their worshipping assemblies1 and out of their hearts--8they made light of it40 ,and the third angel followed1 saying with a loud voice1 8,if any man worship the beast and his image1 and receive his mark in his forehead or in his hand1 the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of ,god1 which is poured out without mixture10 c4--#ith and #ajth verses4 ,these two last described angels1 which follow the first1 are only a part of the flying messengers described in the #fth and #gth verses--for many of the first class opposed the second and third messengers1 and some absolutely denounced them for saying ,babylon1 or the nominal churches had fallen1 and for calling ,god's people to come out of them and leave them forever4 ,in chapter xviii1 #dth verse1 ,john heard the same voice from the same people1 called the third angel1 telling them to come out from ,babylon4 ,in the xiv4 chapter1 he more particularly describes the condition of all those who retain or receive again the mark of the beast1 or in any way connect themselves with these churches1--,jer4 iii3 #c2 the plain ,english of which is1 get clear of this mark1 or profession1 and keep clear2 come out and stay out of this 8habitation of ,devils40 ,for a further explanation of these texts1 and definition of the locations of the heavens1 c41 see ,way ,marks4 ,any advent believer who undertakes to dispute this1 and the two preceding angels' messages1 with their clear fulfillment in advent history from #ahdj to the fall of #ahdd1 is1 in my opinion1 but a few steps removed from the gross darkness that surrounds the habitations of ,babylon4 ,i will venture again to reiterate the assertion1 that since the days of the ,apostles1 ,god's people have never witnessed such a simultaneous and righteous movement1 as they did during these three messages4 ,i feel perfectly safe in saying that ,i fear no contradiction here1 nor condemnation hereafter1 for moving in perfect harmony1 as we have done1 during these three messages4 ,many are writing and preaching that these are1 and will continue to be given1 while the world stands4 ,this mistake is as fatal as the rejection of the first1 because in so doing they will not see any work which ,god has marked out for them1 in this last work for man to fulfill and finish the history of this prophecy4 ,we say1 then1 that these messages closed with the world1 when they were condemned by them1 at the end of a cry at midnight1 in ,oct4 #ahdd4 ,god then had other and more important work for his church to perform among themselves than they ever had before1 and it is clearly marked out in the verses which follow these messages1 and whoever fails here1 fails to follow the ,lamb whithersoever he goeth4 ,be assured1 ,john has not broken the thread of this most interesting narrative here and left us in confusion1 to call the testimony of ,jesus his commandments2 and our resting from this most laborious work in these messages1 the resurrection4 ,if our experience1 for more than three years past1 has not taught us that ,god is fulfilling his word1 by having every thing in its place2 one thing following another1 then we have failed to profit by it4 ,let me entreat you1 my brethren1 to critically examine the next three verses3 viz4 8,here is the patience of the saints1 here are they that keep the commandments of ,god1 and the faith of ,jesus40--#abth verse4 ,what is the faith of ,jesus8 ,answer1--,chapter #abth1 #agth verse says it is his 8testimony20 chapter #aith1 #ajth verse1 says his 8testimony is the spirit of prophecy40 8,teach all nations to observe all things whatsoever ,i have commanded you40--,matt4 xxviii3 #bj4 ,now observe1 the faith1 or testimony of ,jesus1 embraces all his teachings4 ,now mark1 this is what our opponents call the ,new ,testament commandments1 or grace1 which they say embraces all the commandments that we are bound to believe or keep6 ,the text says that these people that are in their patience1 their trying time1 keep the commandments of ,god1 besides the testimony of ,jesus4 ,here then1 we are absolutely directed1 not only to the old testament but to the decalogue--,exo4 xx3 #a-ag1 and even before there was any decalogue in the form of a precept2 see ,exo4 xvi3 #bg-cj4 ,this one text1 in itself1 positively overthrows all of their unscriptural teaching about their ,new ,testament commandments1 and clearly demonstrates the perpetuity of ,god's holy ,sabbath1 because the commandments of ,god are one thing1 and the testimony of ,jesus is another4 ,these are the people1 then1 and the only ones too1 who abide by the whole word of ,god1 in the ,old and ,new ,new ,testament teaching1 and they that deny the teachings of this text1 deny the word of ,god1 and trample down ,his ,holy ,sabbath4 ,in the three preceding verses1 ,god's people are called away1 and required1 under penalty of their salvation1 to continue disconnected from ,babylon1 the churches to which the great mass before this belonged4 ,now the very next thing after these messages1 ,john declares that they are keeping the commandments of ,god2 that is1 they are keeping the seventh-day ,sabbath4 ,where is the proof8 says the objector4 ,here it is--when this same people were making their sacrifice1 in #ahdc and '#dd1 expecting the ,lord to come1 they were walking out in all the commandments of ,god1 as far as they were taught or knew them at that time2 and we all fully believed then1 and do now1 that all the honest ones were in a saved state2 and if called away then1 as was brother ,fitch and others1 the same hope would follow them2 but we know that they could not be honest1 nor be saved1 if they were knowingly living in violation of any of ,god's commandments2 and yet we all positively know now1 that with a very few exceptions1 we were all living in open violation of the #dth commandment1 which we were taught to do1 7though not always designedly17 in the churches to which they belonged1 and where they are still continued to be taught2 and our staying with them1 we now see1 would not have altered1 for they fell for rejecting the message that came before this1 and therefore the subject of this #abth verse was not presented to them4 ,our keeping the first day of the week for the fourth commandment1 never was1 nor ever will be1 fulfilling it1 any more than keeping ,friday for the ,sabbath4 ,john1 who kept the right ,sabbath1 and was now describing our real labors and characters1 could not have said that we kept the commandments1 unless we were keeping the seventh-day ,sabbath1 according to ,god's direction and his practice4 ,this1 then1 being the only commandment that ever had been objected to1 from the days of the ,apostles1 by those who pretended to keep them1 makes it clear that ,john could not have had any reference to either of the others1 but the ,sabbath only4 ,here then1 for the first time1 they were right in the keeping of ,god's commandments2 and the history of ,god's confiding children since the messages of #ahdd1 are fully demonstrating this point1 which clearly proves this exposition to be unobjectionable and perfect4 ,another point is1 that they could not keep the seventh-day ,sabbath1 until they were separated and undefiled by the woman1 7see #dth verse17 hence the declaration that they were doing so after the message of the third angel had separated them from ,babylon4 ,john saw the dragon making war with this remnant1 7xii3 #ag17 and the unclean spirits coming out of the mouth of the dragon 7or devil17 have been1 and are now1 doing this work4 ,the very object in sending forth this work1 has been to expose these deceivers1 who for the last five months more especially1 have been bearing down upon this remnant in a paper war1 with all the power they could wield4 ,we do not1 by any means1 expect this is all of it1 because we know that the devil will never yield1 nor discharge the volunteer company which he is so judiciously marshalling out of the second advent ranks1 until every device to destroy the remnant is resorted to1 and they are seen emerging from the smoke and carnage of this unholy warfare1 ascending to the gates of the holy city1 under the waving banner of the commandments of ,god4--,rev4 xx3 #aa-ad4 ,the judgment hour cry1 in #fth and #gth verses1 was the only one that was designed to go to all the nations of the earth2 and that of itself was sufficient to condemn a world of sinners and false professors that rejected it4 ,other tests were required1 especially in this land1 more than ,england and other lands1 because the light of the church was1 and still is1 in these middle and northern states4 ,here also1 is where this doctrine emanated from2 hence the other messages to test and bring out the true4 ,then those who reject the messages are the false ones2 but the unlettered slave and those who have been1 as it were1 enshrouded in moral darkness1 and have been honestly following the ,lamb whithersoever he goeth1 as far as they knew1 have not rejected this light as have the advent believers in this land2 therefore they are not under the same condemnation4 8,and ,i heard a voice from heaven saying unto me1 write3 ,blessed are the dead which die in the ,lord from henceforth2 yea1 saith the spirit1 that they may rest from their labors and their works do follow them10 #aeth verse4 ,i understand this verse as still referring to the same messengers and their adherents1 who had been laboring almost incessantly to convince their friends of the reality of the messages1 in an especial manner1 during a cry at midnight1 where they closed with the world4 ,if it was not true of them then as a body1 then there is no history since ,john had this vision1 to show any thing like it2 and it looks like making scripture1 to attempt its application in the future1 disconnected with the labor in the preceding verses4 ,the inference is natural1 and it is just like ,god's order every where1 that these his honest believers1 should rest from their labors with the world1 to get their own minds cloudy and calmly fixed on the great event before them4 ,isaiah saw it2 see xxvi3 #bj1 #ba1 and xxv3 #ai4 ,how can ,god's children be shut away in their chambers from the world1 and then say at his coming we have waited for him1 if they were not resting from their labors with the world1 doing what he says1 in his #djth chapter #ast verse4 ,it is also in perfect harmony with the type4 ,do stop here a little while1 and turn to ,lev4 xxii3 #bg-cb1 and show1 if you can1 where the harmony1 anti-type1 or clear fulfillment of these verses are1 if they are not found in ,revelations xiv3 #abth and #acth verses4 ,first--then1 the type in ,leviticus3 ,here the primitive established church annually1 on the tenth day of the seventh month1 had a twenty-four hour day of atonement1 to cleanse them from their sins4 ,during these twenty-four hours they were positively required by the statute or law to enter into a ,sabbath of rest and day of affliction1 or trial1 and rest from all their labor1 8from even to even10 under penalty of being forever cut off from his people4--#bith and #cjth verses4 ,there is one more peculiar trait in this type which demands our particular attention2 that is1 in every other ,sabbath or holy convocation they were positively required to abstain from all servile work--but in the tenth day it is not specified2 see also ,num4 xxix3 #g4 ,this shows the perfect order of ,god that when the church in the last days should enter upon the anti-type1 as in ,rev4 xiv3 #ab1 #ac1 that they would not be required to cease from servile work1 7if necessary71 because the atonement for them would require more than twenty-four hours1 seeing that them were #add1jjj from every nation1 kindred1 tongue1 and people2 whereas those represented by the type could all be assembled in a few hours4 ,this is also in harmony with the fourth commandment for laboring the other six days for food and raiment1 as long as we keep the ,sabbath even to the gates of the city4--#bb3 #ad4 ,second--the anti-type--,rev4 xiv3 #ab1 #ac4 ,after passing through the messages above described they are now out of the ,sardis1 7or nominal17 into the ,philadelphia state of the church1 and commenced their day of atonement since ,oct4 #ahdd1 they also enter into the same kind of rest by keeping for the first time the right ,sabbath of the ,lord our ,god in their patient waiting1 or trying time2 resting from their labors1 in these messages1 from the world3 having now done with them2 waiting for their great high priest to finish the cleansing of the sanctuary1 which blots out their sins1 and purifies them to enter into the holy city4 ,the reason of the anti-type in the atonement1 being longer than the type 7twenty-four hours7 is obvious1 because ,god will give his people sufficient time to accept or refuse the light presented to them after their labors with the world1 to perfectly fulfill the type1 by voluntarily entering into this ,sabbath and resting from their labors4 ,will this be objected to because it reads 8,blessed are the dead that die in the ,lord from henceforth20 and must mean such as die a natural death4 ,well1 ,paul says 8prove all things10 c4 ,suppose then we say this verse was to have its fulfillment from ,a4,d4 #if1 when ,john wrote it1 henceforth from that time4 ,then the strong and clear inference would be1 that ,stephen and ,james1 and all the rest of the disciples who had died before1 would not be blessed--because the blessing here given1 is from the time when given1 henceforward4 ,if we move the beginning of this time to ,luther's day1 as some will have it1 then we cut off ,john and all the saints up to that time2 and if we move it to ,oct4 #ahdd1 then we cut off every saint that has died in the ,lord before4 ,but to get clear of all this1 we are told that this #acth verse evidently represents the saints at the resurrection4 7,see ,bible ,advocate1 ,sept4 #bc1 #ahdg47 ,he refers1 7as ,i have17 to the advent message in #fth and #gth verses1 but avoids the second and third angels' messages1 7#h-aa verses7 or leaves them and the #abth verse also1 to be fulfilled in connection with the #acth verse1 at the resurrection4 ,then to make his view clear to our understanding1 we must read it something like this3 ,blessed are the dead which die in the ,lord1 from the time the advent message began1 7say #ahdj17 until ,babylon falls1 and the statement is being made about what is recorded in the #abth verse 8where is the patience of the saints10 c4 ,well1 say then1 that one hundred saints1 or more1 have actually departed this life1 since that time commenced1 and they will be blessed at the resurrection4 ,the question then arises--,if this must actually be fulfilled for these few1 where is the blessing for ,john1 who had this vision1 and all the saints who have actually died since #ahdj8 ,is ,god partial8 ,shall we find this distinction in the #gth chapter1 #i1 #aj1 #ae and #agth verses1 where the great multitude of all the departed saints are represented before the throne of ,god with white robes1 and palms in their hands8 ,no4 ,shall we find it in the #bjth chapter8 where he says1 8,blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection20 where not only the departed saints1 but the #add1jjj living ones1 are brought to view8 ,no--nothing of the kind4 ,this ,revelation was concerning 8things present1 7,a4,d4 #if17 and things to come40 ,we see1 then1 if this #acth verse1 as we are told1 does represent the departed saints any where1 or time1 since ,a4,d4 #if1 and will be fulfilled at the resurrection1 it is yet incomprehensible4 ,is it not clear that it only has reference to all the righteous saints in these messages from ,oct4 #ahdd8 ,how can it mean the literal dead8 ,is it not clear that the dead know not any thing2 therefore the blessing would not effect them as this text teaches any more than to bless any other inanimate substance4 ,the ,blessing belongs always to the living4 ,just look at ,jesus' sermon on the mount4--,matt4 v3 #c-aa--8;,blessed are ye when men shall revile you1 and persecute you1 and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely1 for my sake0 c4 c4 ,this is now being fulfilled to the letter2 see also ,rev4 i3 #c2 xvi3 #ae2 xix3 #i2 xxii3 #g2 v3 #ab1 #ac2 ,luke xxiv3 #ej1 #ea1 8,blessed are they that hear the word of ,god and keep it40--,jesus4 8,blessed are they that do his commandments10 they shall be saved1--xxii3 #ad4 ,also1 ,isaiah lvi3 #b1 that keep the ,sabbath2 these two last are to the point1 just what they are doing in our text1 #abth and #acth verses of ,rev4 xiv4 ,john is here certainly speaking of a class1 or company1 of living believers1 and not the literal dead4 ,rest is opposite to labor4 ,he shows that the seraphim and cherubim1 7invisible angels17 rest not day1 nor night1 but are continually 8saying ,holy1 ,holy1 ,holy1 ,lord ,god ,almighty40--also v3 #aa1 #ab4 ,the sleeping saints at the resurrection have no rest1 they serve ,god day and night in his temple--vii3 #ae4 ,then the rest spoken of here in the #acth verse is of the living2 resting from their labors with the world4 ,once more1 8,blessed are the dead that die in the ,lord40 ,paul said the commandment so affected him that he died--,rom4 vii3 #i4 ,he means that he died to sin4 ,again1 he says1 8,i die daily10--#ast ,cor4 xv3 #ca2 8,in deaths oft0--#b;d ,cor4 xi3 #bc2 8,if ye be dead with ,christ10 c4--8,for ye are dead and your life is hid with ,christ in ,god0 c4--,col4 ii3 #bj2 iii3 #c1 #d2 also1 see ,rom4 vi3 #h1 #aa1 8,dead indeed unto sin1 but alive unto ,god through ,jesus ,christ our ,lord40 ,in all these1 and much more1 he uses these terms for himself and others that were actually alive in the church4 ,but the general term used for such as were literally dead1 by ,jesus and the apostles1 are asleep2 they sleep2 8,our friend ,lazarus sleepeth40 ,he spake of his death2 the people did not understand2 he explained by saying 8plainly he is dead40--,john xi3 #aa-ad4 ,paul says1 8they also which are fallen asleep in ,christ0--#ast ,cor4 xv3 #ah2 8,some are fallen asleep40--#fth verse3 8,we shall not all sleep1 but we shall be changed40--#east verse3 see also #ast ,thes4 iv3 #ae1 8,them also which sleep in ,jesus0 c42 8,since the ,fathers fell asleep0--#b;d ,pet4 iii3 #d4 ,history4--,we prove these1 then1 to be a part of the same class of the messengers and their adherents that came out of the churches4 ,thousands of living testimonies could be adduced to prove the multitudes who died in the camp meetings and conferences1 about the time that the messengers were closing up their messages4 ,why1 many were burdened with the cry1 die to sin1 and the world2 and live unto ,god4 ,and thousands passed through this death struggle4 ,yes1 they were blessed by dying in the ,lord4 ,those who deny and make light of this part of our experience1 were but little acquainted with the work of ,god in the fall of #ahdd1 and need to be instructed again4 ,but those that died to sin1 and the world then2 cannot be in a saved state now1 if returned to the world4 ,to be safe1 follow ,paul's example1 8die daily40 ,then1 without destroying one single link of this harmonious chain of events1 these saints will be in the right place to fulfill the next message in the #aeth verse1 8crying with a loud voice10 7different from the preceding ones17 this ,i understand will be a combination of labor among the resting ones1 to be united in the incessant prayer1 or crying to ,god day and night in the time of ,jacob and ,daniel's trouble 7,jer4 xxx3 #g2 ,dan4 xii3 #a17 for deliverance1 and for ,christ to come on the white cloud1 as represented in #adth verse1 with his sharp sickle and reap the harvest for all things will appear to be ripe on the earth2 see ,sam4 vii3 #h2 ,jer4 xxii3 #d1 #e2 ,mark xv3 #cd1 #cg2 ,luke xviii3 #a1 #g4 ,here1 ,i believe1 is where the #add1jjj living saints of all nations1 are sealed2 especially will it be manifest among the tried ones then1 that have passed through these messages4 ,then the four angel governments will cease to restrain war and bloodshed2 ,god will speak as in ,joel iii3 #af1 #ag3 the ,sanctuary will be cleansed2 the sins of ,god's people blotted out--in other words1 the atonement finished and their trials ended2 their captivity turned4 ,two such ones will then put ten thousand to flight4 ,jesus comes out of the most holy place1 changes his garments1 puts on his kingly robes and stands up to reign over the nations1 as in ,dan4 xii3 #a2 mounts his cloudy chariot with his sharp sickle to reap the harvest of the earth4 ,here the #add1jjj are in a state of deliverance1 ready for the next and last message in the #agth and #ahth verses4 ,this message looks like one united and incessant prevailing prayer1 7differing from all the others1 because of the everlasting union that these messages have at length accomplished with these sealed saints17 ascending to ,god1 while these messengers who have now1 as it seems1 become reapers similar to those in xix3 #ad1 #ae1 8and are to gather the vine of the earth and cast it into the great wine press of the wrath of ,god10 7#ai4 v47 8to execute upon them 7the wicked7 the judgment written2 this honor have all the saints4 ,praise ye the ,lord40 ,now return to the #gth chapter1 #i-ae verses--8,after this10 7when8 after the saints were numbered and sealed17 8,i beheld1 and lo1 a great multitude which no man could number1 of all nations1 and kindreds1 and people and tongues1 stood before the throne1 and before the ,lamb1 clothed with white robes1 and palms in their hands4 ,and they cried saying amen1 blessing1 and glory1 and wisdom1 and thanksgiving1 and honor1 and power1 and might be unto our ,god forever and ever1 ,amen40 ,the #add1jjj will then stand on the ,mount ,zion4 ------------------------------------- 8,fear not little flock1 it is your ,father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom40 ,,christ ,,not ,,represented ,,as ,,an ,,angel4 ,christ is no where represented as an angel1 in ,rev4 unless it can be proved that he is so1 in the #hth ch4 #c-e vs4 ,he tells us that the #g stars in his right hand are the angels1 or messengers2 see i3 #bj4 ,he is called 8one like unto the son of man40 ,read his description i3 #ac-ah2 xiv3 #ad2 the same in ,dan4 vii3 #ac2 x3 #e1 #f2 xii3 #f1 #g4 ,he is also called the ,lamb #bf times2 see v3 #f1 #h1 #ab1 #ac vs42 vi3 #a1 #af2 vii3 #i1 #aj1 #ad1 #ag2 xii3 #aa2 xiii3 #h1 #aa2 xiv3 #a-d2 xv3 #c2 xvii3 #ad2 xix3 #g1 #i2 xxi3 #i1 #ad1 #bb1 #bc1 #bg2 xxii3 #a1 #c4 ,this ,lamb is the ,lord of ,lords1 and king of kings2 and they that are with him are called and chosen1 and faithful2 see xvii3 #ad2 xix3 #af4 ,he is called the word of ,god1 and 8the armies0 the 8chosen and faithful0 ones follow him2 see xix3 #ac1 #ad4 ,he is called the first and the last i3 #h1 #ag2 ii3 #h2 xxii3 #ac4 ,and the one which was1 and is1 and is to come1 i3 #d1 #h2 iv3 #h2 xi3 #ag4 ,he is the true and faithful witness i3 #e2 iii3 #ad4 ,also the root of ,david1 the morning star1 xxii3 #af2 ii3 #bh2 also ,mich4 xii3 #g4 ,and faithful witness i3 #e2 iii3 #ad2 xix3 #aa4 ,please examine this subject3 ,,type4 ,now turn to ,lev4 xxiii3 #aj1 #aa2 when you reap the harvest 7in the spring17 then ye shall bring a sheaf of the first fruits1 and the ,priest shall wave it before the ,lord--on the morrow after the ,sabbath1 7as in #c;d v474 ,and ye shall count from the day after the ,sabbath1 7the some #gth day ,sabbath in #c;d v47 the day after ye offer the wave sheaf1 #g ,sabbaths shall be complete2 that is1 counting the next day after the #g ,sabbaths1 which will make #ej days1 #af1 #ag vs42 then with the sacrifices they are to offer two wave leaves1 the bread made from the harvested grain2 see #ag-bj4 ,now turn to ,exo4 xxxiv3 #ba1 #bb3 here we see ,god required the people to keep the #gth day ,sabbath1 i4 e4 to rest in caring time1 and harvest1 but they were to observe the first fruits in their place1 ,deut4 xvi3 #i1 shows where2 begin to count the #ej days from the time thou beginnest to put the sickle to the corn4 ,now send the reapers forth the next morning after the ,sabbath1 what day is that8 why1 it is ,sunday in the morning2 so we see in the anti-type the morning of the resurrection instead of being a holy day 7and as the world will have it the ,sabbath7 it was the day for the laborers to go out into the fields to reap the spring harvest4 ,how could that be a holy day4 ,,hymn4--,tune--,zion4 ,by ,h4 ,s4 ,,gurney4 ,lo1 an ,angel loud proclaiming1 ,with the gospel of good news2 ,to every kindred1 tongue and people2 ,fear the ,lord1 give glory due2 ,proclamation1 ,of the hour of judgment near4 ,lo1 another ,angel follows1 ,with another solemn cry6 ,babylon the great is fallen1 ,peals like thunder through the sky3 ,let ,thy ,people1 ,now forsake her ,,pois',,nous ,,creeds4 ,yet1 a third and solemn message1 ,now proclaims a final doom2 ,all who 8worship ,beast or ,image20 ,soon shall drink the wrath of ,god3 ,without mixture1 ,mercy1 now no longer pleads4 ,here are they1 who now are waiting1 ,and have patience to endure2 ,while the ,,dragon',s hosts are raging1 ,those confide in ,god secure3 ,faith of ,jesus2 ,and ,,commandments1 keep them pure4 ,hear a voice from heav'n proclaiming1 8,write0 the message1 8firm decree03 ,bless'd are they1 who die in ,jesus1 8,from henceforth0 forever be3 ,the ,spirit sanctions1 ,and the ,saints ,,adore ,,his ,,law4 ,,footnotes #a ,campbell translates this in three1 and ,matt4 xxviii3 #fc1 within three days4 #b ,small sea birds4 #c ,allow me1 once more1 to recommend to your careful1 candid and prayerful attention1 the simple1 unadorned1 scriptural1 published visions of ,,ellen ,g4 ,,harmon1 now ,,white4 ,if you do not see the simple outlines of our history past and at that time in the future1 marking our pathway1 then ,i fear you will not comprehend what ,i have written4 ,reject it not because of her childhood and diseased bodily infirmities1 and lack of worldly knowledge4 ,god's manner has ever been to use the weak things of this world to confound the learned and mighty4 ,i often feel to praise my ,god for this simple means to strengthen and encourage the little flock1 just at the time that their teachers and shepherds were deserting them4 ,it looks like ,god's work4