,libraries7 ,,loss ,,and ,,gain3 ,,the ,,story ,,of ,a ,,convert4 ,,by ,,john ,,henry ,,newman1 ,,of ,,the ,,oratory4 ,,adhuc ,,modicum ,,aliquantulum1 ,,qui ,,venturus ,,est1 ,,veniet1 ,,et ,,non ,,tardabit4 ,,justus ,,autem ,,meus ,,ex ,,fide ,,vivit4 ,eighth ,edition4 ,,london3 ,,burns ,,and ,,oates4 #ahha4 ,,to ,,the ,,very ,,rev4 ,,charles ,w4 ,,russell1 ,d4,d41 ,,president ,,of ,,st4 ,,patrick',s ,,college1 ,,maynooth1 c4 c4 ,my dear ,dr4 ,russell1--,now that at length ,i take the step of printing my name in the ,title-,page of this ,volume1 ,i trust ,i shall not be encroaching on the kindness you have so long shown to me1 if ,i venture to follow it up by placing yours in the page which comes next1 thus associating myself with you1 and recommending myself to my readers by the association4 ,not that ,i am dreaming of bringing down upon you1 in whole or part1 the criticisms1 just or unjust1 which lie against a literary attempt which has in some quarters been thought out of keeping with my antecedents and my position2 but the warm and sympathetic interest which you took in ,oxford matters thirty years ago1 and the benefits which ,i derived personally from that interest1 are reasons why ,i am desirous of prefixing your name to a ,tale1 which1 whatever its faults1 at least is a more intelligible and exact representation of the thoughts1 sentiments1 and aspirations1 then and there prevailing1 than was to be found in the anti-,catholic pamphlets1 charges1 sermons1 reviews1 and story-books of the day4 ,these reasons1 too1 must be my apology1 should ,i seem to be asking your acceptance of a ,volume1 which1 over and above its intrinsic defects1 is1 in its very subject and style1 hardly commensurate with the theological reputation and the ecclesiastical station of the person to whom it is presented4 ,i am1 my dear ,dr4 ,russell1 ,your affectionate friend1 ,,john ,h4 ,,newman4 ,,the ,,oratory1 ,feb4 #ba1 #ahgd4 ,,advertisement4 ,the following tale is not intended as a work of controversy in behalf of the ,catholic ,religion2 but as a description of what is understood by few1 viz4 the course of thought and state of mind1--or rather one such course and state1--which issues in conviction of its ,divine origin4 ,nor is it founded on fact1 to use the common phrase4 ,it is not the history of any individual mind among the recent converts to the ,catholic ,church4 ,the principal characters are imaginary2 and the writer wishes to disclaim personal allusion in any4 ,it is with this view that he has feigned ecclesiastical bodies and places1 to avoid the chance1 which might otherwise occur1 of unintentionally suggesting to the reader real individuals1 who were far from his thoughts4 ,at the same time1 free use has been made of sayings and doings which were characteristic of the time and place in which the scene is laid4 ,and1 moreover1 when1 as in a tale1 a general truth or fact is exhibited in individual specimens of it1 it is impossible that the ideal representation should not more or less coincide1 in spite of the author's endeavour1 or even without his recognition1 with its existing instances or champions4 ,it must also be added1 to prevent a farther misconception1 that no proper representative is intended in this tale1 of the religious opinions which had lately so much influence in the ,university of ,oxford4 ,feb4 #ba1 #ahdh4 ,,advertisement ,,to ,,the ,,sixth ,,edition4 ,a tale1 directed against the ,oxford converts to the ,catholic ,faith1 was sent from ,england to the author of this ,volume in the summer of #ahdg1 when he was resident at ,santa ,croce in ,rome4 ,its contents were as wantonly and preposterously fanciful1 as they were injurious to those whose motives and actions it professed to represent2 but a formal criticism or grave notice of it seemed to him out of place4 ,the suitable answer lay rather in the publication of a second tale2 drawn up with a stricter regard to truth and probability1 and with at least some personal knowledge of ,oxford1 and some perception of the various aspects of the religious phenomenon1 which the work in question handled so rudely and so unskilfully4 ,especially was he desirous of dissipating the fog of pomposity and solemn pretence1 which its writer had thrown around the personages introduced into it1 by showing1 as in a specimen1 that those who were smitten with love of the ,catholic ,church1 were nevertheless as able to write common-sense prose as other men4 ,under these circumstances ,loss and ,gain was given to the public4 ,feb4 #ba1 #ahgd4 ,,loss ,,and ,,gain4 ,part ,i4 ,,chapter ,i4 ,charles ,reding was the only son of a clergyman1 who was in possession of a valuable benefice in a midland county4 ,his father intended him for orders1 and sent him at a proper age to a public school4 ,he had long revolved in his mind the respective advantages and disadvantages of public and private education1 and had decided in favour of the former4 ,seclusion1 he said1 is no security for virtue4 ,there is no telling what is in a boy's heart3 he may look as open and happy as usual1 and be as kind and attentive1 when there is a great deal wrong going on within4 ,the heart is a secret with its ,maker2 no one on earth can hope to get at it or to touch it4 ,i have a cure of souls2 what do ,i really know of my parishioners8 ,nothing2 their hearts are sealed books to me4 ,and this dear boy1 he comes close to me2 he throws his arms round me1 but his soul is as much out of my sight as if he were at the antipodes4 ,i am not accusing him of reserve1 dear fellow3 his very love and reverence for me keep him in a sort of charmed solitude4 ,i cannot expect to get at the bottom of him4 ',each in his hidden sphere of bliss or woe1 ,our hermit spirits dwell4' ,it is our lot here below4 ,no one on earth can know ,charles's secret thoughts4 ,did ,i guard him here at home ever so well1 yet1 in due time1 it would be found that a serpent had crept into the heart of his innocence4 ,boys do not fully know what is good and what is evil2 they do wrong things at first almost innocently4 ,novelty hides vice from them2 there is no one to warn them or give them rules2 and they become slaves of sin1 while they are learning what sin is4 ,they go to the ,university1 and suddenly plunge into excesses1 the greater in proportion to their inexperience4 ,and1 besides all this1 ,i am not equal to the task of forming so active and inquisitive a mind as his4 ,he already asks questions which ,i know not how to answer4 ,so he shall go to a public school4 ,there he will get discipline at least1 even if he has more of trial3 at least he will gain habits of self-command1 manliness1 and circumspection2 he will learn to use his eyes1 and will find materials to use them upon2 and thus will be gradually trained for the liberty which1 any how1 he must have when he goes to college4 ,this was the more necessary1 because1 with many high excellences1 ,charles was naturally timid and retiring1 over-sensitive1 and1 though lively and cheerful1 yet not without a tinge of melancholy in his character1 which sometimes degenerated into mawkishness4 ,to ,eton1 then1 he went2 and there had the good fortune to fall into the hands of an excellent tutor1 who1 while he instructed him in the old ,church-of-,england principles of ,mant and ,doyley1 gave his mind a religious impression1 which secured him against the allurements of bad company1 whether at the school itself1 or afterwards at ,oxford4 ,to that celebrated seat of learning he was in due time transferred1 being entered at ,st4 ,saviour's ,college2 and he is in his sixth term from matriculation1 and his fourth of residence1 at the time our story opens4 ,at ,oxford1 it is needless to say1 he had found a great number of his schoolfellows1 but1 it so happened1 had found very few friends among them4 ,some were too gay for him1 and he had avoided them2 others1 with whom he had been intimate at ,eton1 having high connections1 had fairly cut him on coming into residence1 or1 being entered at other colleges1 had lost sight of him4 ,almost everything depends at ,oxford1 in the matter of acquaintance1 on proximity of rooms4 ,you choose your friend1 not so much by your tastes1 as by your staircase4 ,there is a story of a ,london tradesman who lost custom after beautifying his premises1 because his entrance went up a step2 and we all know how great is the difference between open and shut doors when we walk along a street of shops4 ,in a university a youth's hours are portioned out to him4 ,a regular man gets up and goes to chapel1 breakfasts1 gets up his lectures1 goes to lecture1 walks1 dines2 there is little to induce him to mount any staircase but his own2 and if he does so1 ten to one he finds the friend from home whom he is seeking2 not to say that freshmen1 who naturally have common feelings and interests1 as naturally are allotted a staircase in common4 ,and thus it was that ,charles ,reding was brought across ,william ,sheffield1 who had come into residence the same term as himself4 ,the minds of young people are pliable and elastic1 and easily accommodate themselves to any one they fall in with4 ,they find grounds of attraction both where they agree with one another and where they differ2 what is congenial to themselves creates sympathy2 what is correlative1 or supplemental1 creates admiration and esteem4 ,and what is thus begun is often continued in after-life by the force of habit and the claims of memory4 ,thus1 in the choice of friends1 chance often does for us as much as the most careful selection could have effected4 ,what was the character and degree of that friendship which sprang up between the freshmen ,reding and ,sheffield1 we need not here minutely explain3 it will be enough to say1 that what they had in common was freshmanship1 good talents1 and the back staircase2 and that they differed in this--that ,sheffield had lived a good deal with people older than himself1 had read much in a desultory way1 and easily picked up opinions and facts1 especially on controversies of the day1 without laying anything very much to heart2 that he was ready1 clear-sighted1 unembarrassed1 and somewhat forward3 ,charles1 on the other hand1 had little knowledge as yet of principles or their bearings1 but understood more deeply than ,sheffield1 and held more practically1 what he had once received2 he was gentle and affectionate1 and easily led by others1 except when duty clearly interfered4 ,it should be added1 that he had fallen in with various religious denominations in his father's parish1 and had a general1 though not a systematic1 knowledge of their tenets4 ,what they were besides1 will be seen as our narrative advances4 ,,chapter ,,ii4 ,it was a little past one ,p4,m4 when ,sheffield1 passing ,charles's door1 saw it open4 ,the college servant had just entered with the usual half-commons for luncheon1 and was employed in making up the fire4 ,sheffield followed him in1 and found ,charles in his cap and gown1 lounging on the arm of his easy-chair1 and eating his bread and cheese4 ,sheffield asked him if he slept1 as well as ate and drank1 accoutred as he was4 ,i am just going for a turn into the meadow1 said ,charles2 this is to me the best time of the year3 nunc formosissimus annus2 everything is beautiful2 the laburnums are out1 and the may4 ,there is a greater variety of trees there than in any other place ,i know hereabouts2 and the planes are so touching just now1 with their small multitudinous green hands half-opened2 and there are two or three such fine dark willows stretching over the ,cherwell2 ,i think some dryad inhabits them3 and1 as you wind along1 just over your right shoulder is the ,long ,walk1 with the ,oxford buildings seen between the elms4 ,they say there are dons here who recollect when the foliage was unbroken1 nay1 when you might walk under it in hard rain1 and get no wet4 ,i know ,i got drenched there the other day4 ,sheffield laughed1 and said that ,charles must put on his beaver1 and walk with him a different way4 ,he wanted a good walk2 his head was stupid from his lectures2 that old ,jennings prosed so awfully upon ,paley1 it made him quite ill4 ,he had talked of the ,apostles as neither deceivers nor deceived1 of their sensible miracles1 and of their dying for their testimony1 till he did not know whether he himself was an ens physiologicum or a totum metaphysicum1 when ,jennings had cruelly asked him to repeat ,paley's argument2 and because he had not given it in ,jennings' words1 friend ,jennings had pursed up his lips1 and gone through the whole again2 so intent1 in his wooden enthusiasm1 on his own analysis of it1 that he did not hear the clock strike the hour2 and1 in spite of the men's shuffling their feet1 blowing their noses1 and looking at their watches1 on he had gone for a good twenty minutes past the time2 and would have been going on even then1 he verily believed1 but for an interposition only equalled by that of the geese at the ,capitol4 ,for that1 when he had got about half through his recapitulation1 and was stopping at the end of a sentence to see the impression he was making1 that uncouth fellow1 ,lively1 moved by what happy inspiration he did not know1 suddenly broke in1 apropos of nothing1 nodding his head1 and speaking in a clear cackle1 with1 ,pray1 sir1 what is your opinion of the infallibility of the ,pope8 ,upon which every one but ,jennings did laugh out3 but he1 au contraire1 began to look very black2 and no one can tell what would have happened1 had he not cast his eyes by accident on his watch1 on which he coloured1 closed his book1 and instanter sent the whole lecture out of the room4 ,charles laughed in his turn1 but added1 ,yet1 ,i assure you1 ,sheffield1 that ,jennings1 stiff and cold as he seems1 is1 ,i do believe1 a very good fellow at bottom4 ,he has before now spoken to me with a good deal of feeling1 and has gone out of his way to do me favours4 ,i see poor bodies coming to him for charity continually2 and they say that his sermons at ,holy ,cross are excellent4 ,sheffield said he liked people to be natural1 and hated that donnish manner4 ,what good could it do8 and what did it mean8 ,that is what ,i call bigotry1 answered ,charles2 ,i am for taking every one for what he is1 and not for what he is not3 one has this excellence1 another that2 no one is everything4 ,why should we not drop what we don't like1 and admire what we like8 ,this is the only way of getting through life1 the only true wisdom1 and surely our duty into the bargain4 ,sheffield thought this regular prose1 and unreal4 ,we must1 he said1 have a standard of things1 else one good thing is as good as another4 ,but ,i can't stand here all day1 he continued1 when we ought to be walking4 ,and he took off ,charles's cap1 and1 placing his hat on him instead1 said1 ,come1 let us be going4 ,then must ,i give up my meadow8 said ,charles4 ,of course you must1 answered ,sheffield2 you must take a beaver walk4 ,i want you to go as far as ,oxley1 a village some little way out1 all the vicars of which1 sooner or later1 are made bishops4 ,perhaps even walking there may do us some good4 ,the friends set out1 from hat to boot in the most approved ,oxford bandbox-cut of trimness and prettiness4 ,sheffield was turning into the ,high ,street1 when ,reding stopped him3 ,it always annoys me1 he said1 to go down ,high ,street in a beaver2 one is sure to meet a proctor4 ,all those ,university dresses are great fudge1 answered ,sheffield2 how are we the better for them8 ,they are mere outside1 and nothing else4 ,besides1 our gown is so hideously ugly4 ,well1 ,i don't go along with your sweeping condemnation1 answered ,charles2 this is a great place1 and should have a dress4 ,i declare1 when ,i first saw the procession of ,heads at ,st4 ,mary's1 it was quite moving4 ,first---- ,of course the pokers1 interrupted ,sheffield4 ,first the organ1 and every one rising2 then the ,vice-,chancellor in red1 and his bow to the preacher1 who turns to the pulpit2 then all the ,heads in order2 and lastly the ,proctors4 ,meanwhile1 you see the head of the preacher slowly mounting up the steps2 when he gets in1 he shuts-to the door1 looks at the organ-loft to catch the psalm1 and the voices strike up4 ,sheffield laughed1 and then said1 ,well1 ,i confess ,i agree with you in your instance4 ,the preacher is1 or is supposed to be1 a person of talent2 he is about to hold forth2 the divines1 the students of a great ,university1 are all there to listen4 ,the pageant does but fitly represent the great moral fact which is before us2 ,i understand this4 ,i don't call this fudge2 what ,i mean by fudge is1 outside without inside4 ,now ,i must say1 the sermon itself1 and not the least of all the prayer before it--what do they call it8 ,the bidding prayer1 said ,reding4 ,well1 both sermon and prayer are often arrant fudge4 ,i don't often go to ,university sermons1 but ,i have gone often enough not to go again without compulsion4 ,the last preacher ,i heard was from the country4 ,oh1 it was wonderful6 ,he began at the pitch of his voice1 ',ye shall pray4' ,what stuff6 ',ye shall pray2' because old ,latimer or ,jewell said1 ',ye shall praie1' therefore we must not say1 ',let us pray4' ,presently he brought out1 continued ,sheffield1 assuming a pompous and up-and-down tone1 'especially for that pure and apostolic branch of it established1'--here the man rose on his toes1 'established in these dominions4' ,next came1 'for our ,sovereign ,lady ,victoria1 ,queen1 ,defender of the ,faith1 in all causes and over all persons1 ecclesiastical as well as civil1 within these her dominions1 supreme'--an awful pause1 with an audible fall of the sermon-case on the cushion2 as though nature did not contain1 as if the human mind could not sustain1 a bigger thought4 ,then followed1 'the pious and munificent founder1' in the same twang1 'of ,all ,saints' and ,leicester ,colleges1' ,but his chef-d'oeuvre was his emphatic recognition of 'all the doctors1 both the proctors'1 as if the numerical antithesis had a graphic power1 and threw those excellent personages into a charming tableau vivant4 ,charles was amused at all this2 but he said in answer1 that he never heard a sermon but it was his own fault if he did not gain good from it2 and he quoted the words of his father1 who1 when he one day asked him if so-and-so had not preached a very good sermon1 ,my dear ,charles1 his father had said1 all sermons are good4 ,the words1 simple as they were1 had retained a hold on his memory4 ,meanwhile1 they had proceeded down the forbidden ,high ,street1 and were crossing the bridge1 when1 on the opposite side1 they saw before them a tall1 upright man1 whom ,sheffield had no difficulty in recognizing as a bachelor of ,nun's ,hall1 and a bore at least of the second magnitude4 ,he was in cap and gown1 but went on his way1 as if intending1 in that extraordinary guise1 to take a country walk4 ,he took the path which they were going themselves1 and they tried to keep behind him2 but they walked too briskly1 and he too leisurely1 to allow of that4 ,it is very difficult duly to delineate a bore in a narrative1 for the very reason that he is a bore4 ,a tale must aim at condensation1 but a bore acts in solution4 ,it is only on the long-run that he is ascertained4 ,then1 indeed1 he is felt2 he is oppressive2 like the sirocco1 which the native detects at once1 while a foreigner is often at fault4 ,tenet occiditque4 ,did you hear him make but one speech1 perhaps you would say he was a pleasant1 well-informed man2 but when he never comes to an end1 or has one and the same prose every time you meet him1 or keeps you standing till you are fit to sink1 or holds you fast when you wish to keep an engagement1 or hinders you listening to important conversation1--then there is no mistake1 the truth bursts on you1 apparent dir facies1 you are in the clutches of a bore4 ,you may yield1 or you may flee2 you cannot conquer4 ,hence it is clear that a bore cannot be represented in a story1 or the story would be the bore as much as he4 ,the reader1 then1 must believe this upright ,mr4 ,bateman to be what otherwise he might not discover1 and thank us for our consideration in not proving as well as asserting it4 ,sheffield bowed to him courteously1 and would have proceeded on his way2 but ,bateman1 as became his nature1 would not suffer it2 he seized him4 ,are you disposed1 he said1 to look into the pretty chapel we are restoring on the common8 ,it is quite a gem--in the purest style of the fourteenth century4 ,it was in a most filthy condition1 a mere cow-house2 but we have made a subscription1 and set it to rights4 ,we are bound for ,oxley1 ,sheffield answered2 you would be taking us out of our way4 ,not a bit of it1 said ,bateman2 it's not a stone's throw from the road2 you must not refuse me4 ,i'm sure you'll like it4 ,he proceeded to give the history of the chapel--all it had been1 all it might have been1 all it was not1 all it was to be4 ,it is to be a real specimen of a ,catholic chapel1 he said2 we mean to make the attempt of getting the ,bishop to dedicate it to the ,royal ,martyr--why should not we have our ,st4 ,charles as well as the ,romanists8--and it will be quite sweet to hear the vesper-bell tolling over the sullen moor every evening1 in all weathers1 and amid all the changes and chances of this mortal life4 ,sheffield asked what congregation they expected to collect at that hour4 ,that's a low view1 answered ,bateman2 it does not signify at all4 ,in real ,catholic churches the number of the congregation is nothing to the purpose2 service is for those who come1 not for those who stay away4 ,well1 said ,sheffield1 ,i understand what that means when a ,roman ,catholic says it2 for a priest is supposed to offer sacrifice1 which he can do without a congregation as well as with one4 ,and1 again1 ,catholic chapels often stand over the bodies of martyrs1 or on some place of miracle1 as a record2 but our service is ',common ,prayer1' and how can you have that without a congregation8 ,bateman replied that1 even if members of the ,university did not drop in1 which he expected1 at least the bell would be a memento far and near4 ,ah1 ,i see1 retorted ,sheffield1 the use will be the reverse of what you said just now2 it is not for those that come1 but for those who stay away4 ,the congregation is outside1 not inside2 it's an outside concern4 ,i once saw a tall church-tower--so it appeared from the road2 but on the sides you saw it was but a thin wall1 made to look like a tower1 in order to give the church an imposing effect4 ,do run up such a bit of a wall1 and put the bell in it4 ,there's another reason1 answered ,bateman1 for restoring the chapel1 quite independent of the service4 ,it has been a chapel from time immemorial1 and was consecrated by our ,catholic forefathers4 ,sheffield argued that this would be as good a reason for keeping up the ,mass as for keeping up the chapel4 ,we do keep up the ,mass1 said ,bateman2 we offer our ,mass every ,sunday1 according to the rite of the ,english ,cyprian1 as honest ,peter ,heylin calls him2 what would you have more8 ,whether ,sheffield understood this or no1 at least it was beyond ,charles4 ,was the ,common ,prayer the ,english ,mass1 or the ,communion-service1 or the ,litany1 or the sermon1 or any part of these8 or were ,bateman's words really a confession that there were clergymen who actually said the ,popish ,mass once a week8 ,bateman's precise meaning1 however1 is lost to posterity2 for they had by this time arrived at the door of the chapel4 ,it had once been the chapel of an almshouse2 a small farmhouse stood near2 but1 for population1 it was plain no church accommodation was wanted4 ,before entering1 ,charles hung back1 and whispered to his friend that he did not know ,bateman4 ,an introduction1 in consequence1 took place4 ,reding of ,st4 ,saviour's--,bateman of ,nun's ,hall2 after which ceremony1 in place of holy water1 they managed to enter the chapel in company4 ,it was as pretty a building as ,bateman had led them to expect1 and very prettily done up4 ,there was a stone altar in the best style1 a credence table1 a piscina1 what looked like a tabernacle1 and a couple of handsome brass candlesticks4 ,charles asked the use of the piscina--he did not know its name--and was told that there was always a piscina in the old churches in ,england1 and that there could be no proper restoration without it4 ,next he asked the meaning of the beautifully wrought closet or recess above the altar2 and received for answer1 that our sister churches of the ,roman obedience always had a tabernacle for reserving the consecrated bread4 ,here ,charles was brought to a stand3 on which ,sheffield asked the use of the niches2 and was told by ,bateman that images of saints were forbidden by the canon1 but that his friends1 in all these matters1 did what they could4 ,lastly1 he asked the meaning of the candlesticks2 and was told that1 ,catholicly-minded as their ,bishop was1 they had some fear lest he would object to altar lights in service--at least at first3 but it was plain that the use of the candlesticks was to hold candles4 ,having had their fill of gazing and admiring1 they turned to proceed on their walk1 but could not get off an invitation to breakfast1 in a few days1 at ,bateman's lodgings in the ,turl4 ,,chapter ,,iii4 ,neither of the friends had what are called views in religion2 by which expression we do not here signify that neither had taken up a certain line of opinion1 though this was the case also2 but that neither of them--how could they at their age8--had placed his religion on an intellectual basis4 ,it may be as well to state more distinctly what a view is1 what it is to be viewy1 and what is the state of those who have no views4 ,when1 then2 men for the first time look upon the world of politics or religion1 all that they find there meets their mind's eye as a landscape addresses itself for the first time to a person who has just gained his bodily sight4 ,one thing is as far off as another2 there is no perspective4 ,the connection of fact with fact1 truth with truth1 the bearing of fact upon truth1 and truth upon fact1 what leads to what1 what are points primary and what secondary1--all this they have yet to learn4 ,it is all a new science to them1 and they do not even know their ignorance of it4 ,moreover1 the world of to-day has no connection in their minds with the world of yesterday2 time is not a stream1 but stands before them round and full1 like the moon4 ,they do not know what happened ten years ago1 much less the annals of a century2 the past does not live to them in the present2 they do not understand the worth of contested points2 names have no associations for them1 and persons kindle no recollections4 ,they hear of men1 and things1 and projects1 and struggles1 and principles2 but everything comes and goes like the wind1 nothing makes an impression1 nothing penetrates1 nothing has its place in their minds4 ,they locate nothing2 they have no system4 ,they hear and they forget2 or they just recollect what they have once heard1 they can't tell where4 ,thus they have no consistency in their arguments2 that is1 they argue one way to-day1 and not exactly the other way to-morrow1 but indirectly the other way1 at random4 ,their lines of argument diverge2 nothing comes to a point2 there is no one centre in which their mind sits1 on which their judgment of men and things proceeds4 ,this is the state of many men all through life2 and miserable politicians or ,churchmen they make1 unless by good luck they are in safe hands1 and ruled by others1 or are pledged to a course4 ,else they are at the mercy of the winds and waves2 and1 without being ,radical1 ,whig1 ,tory1 or ,conservative1 ,high ,church or ,low ,church1 they do ,whig acts1 ,tory acts1 ,catholic acts1 and heretical acts1 as the fit takes them1 or as events or parties drive them4 ,and sometimes1 when their self-importance is hurt1 they take refuge in the idea that all this is a proof that they are unfettered1 moderate1 dispassionate1 that they observe the mean1 that they are no party men2 when they are1 in fact1 the most helpless of slaves2 for our strength in this world is1 to be the subjects of the reason1 and our liberty1 to be captives of the truth4 ,now ,charles ,reding1 a youth of twenty1 could not be supposed to have much of a view in religion or politics2 but no clever man allows himself to judge of things simply at hap-hazard2 he is obliged1 from a sort of self-respect1 to have some rule or other1 true or false2 and ,charles was very fond of the maxim1 which he has already enunciated1 that we must measure people by what they are1 and not by what they are not4 ,he had a great notion of loving every one--of looking kindly on every one2 he was pierced with the sentiment which he had seen in a popular volume of poetry1 that-- ,christian souls1 444 ,though worn and soil'd with sinful clay1 ,are yet1 to eyes that see them true1 ,all glistening with baptismal dew4 ,he liked1 as he walked along the road1 and met labourer or horseman1 gentleman or beggar1 to say to himself1 ,he is a ,christian4 ,and when he came to ,oxford1 he came there with an enthusiasm so simple and warm as to be almost childish4 ,he reverenced even the velvet of the ,pro42 nay1 the cocked hat which preceded the ,preacher had its claim on his deferential regard4 ,without being himself a poet1 he was in the season of poetry1 in the sweet spring-time1 when the year is most beautiful1 because it is new4 ,novelty was beauty to a heart so open and cheerful as his2 not only because it was novelty1 and had its proper charm as such1 but because when we first see things1 we see them in a gay confusion1 which is a principal element of the poetical4 ,as time goes on1 and we number and sort and measure things--as we gain views--we advance towards philosophy and truth1 but we recede from poetry4 ,when we ourselves were young1 we once on a time walked on a hot summer-day from ,oxford to ,newington--a dull road1 as any one who has gone it knows2 yet it was new to us2 and we protest to you1 reader1 believe it or not1 laugh or not1 as you will1 to us it seemed on that occasion quite touchingly beautiful2 and a soft melancholy came over us1 of which the shadows fall even now1 when we look back on that dusty1 weary journey4 ,and why8 because every object which met us was unknown and full of mystery4 ,a tree or two in the distance seemed the beginning of a great wood1 or park1 stretching endlessly2 a hill implied a vale beyond1 with that vale's history2 the bye-lanes1 with their green hedges1 wound and vanished1 yet were not lost to the imagination4 ,such was our first journey2 but when we had gone it several times1 the mind refused to act1 the scene ceased to enchant1 stern reality alone remained2 and we thought it one of the most tiresome1 odious roads we ever had occasion to traverse4 ,but to return to our story4 ,such was ,reding4 ,but ,sheffield1 on the other hand1 without possessing any real view of things more than ,charles1 was1 at this time1 fonder of hunting for views1 and more in danger of taking up false ones4 ,that is1 he was viewy1 in a bad sense of the word4 ,he was not satisfied intellectually with things as they are2 he was critical1 impatient to reduce things to system1 pushed principles too far1 was fond of argument1 partly from pleasure in the exercise1 partly because he was perplexed1 though he did not lay anything very much to heart4 ,they neither of them felt any special interest in the controversy going on in the ,university and country about ,high and ,low ,church4 ,sheffield had a sort of contempt for it2 and ,reding felt it to be bad taste to be unusual or prominent in anything4 ,an ,eton acquaintance had asked him to go and hear one of the principal preachers of the ,catholic party1 and offered to introduce him2 but he had declined it4 ,he did not like1 he said1 mixing himself up with party2 he had come to ,oxford to get his degree1 and not to take up opinions2 he thought his father would not relish it2 and1 moreover1 he felt some little repugnance to such opinions and such people1 under the notion that the authorities of the ,university were opposed to the whole movement4 ,he could not help looking at its leaders as demagogues2 and towards demagogues he felt an unmeasured aversion and contempt4 ,he did not see why clergymen1 however respectable1 should be collecting undergraduates about them2 and he heard stories of their way of going on which did not please him4 ,moreover1 he did not like the specimens of their followers whom he fell in with2 they were forward1 or they talked strong1 as it was called2 did ridiculous1 extravagant acts2 and sometimes neglected their college duties for things which did not concern them4 ,he was unfortunate1 certainly3 for this is a very unfair account of the most exemplary men of that day1 who doubtless are still1 as clergymen or laymen1 the strength of the ,anglican ,church2 but in all collections of men1 the straw and rubbish 7as ,lord ,bacon says7 float on the top1 while gold and jewels sink and are hidden4 ,or1 what is more apposite still1 many men1 or most men1 are a compound of precious and worthless together1 and their worthless swims1 and their precious lies at the bottom4 ,,chapter ,,iv4 ,bateman was one of these composite characters3 he had much good and much cleverness in him2 but he was absurd1 and he afforded a subject of conversation to the two friends as they proceeded on their walk4 ,i wish there was less of fudge and humbug everywhere1 said ,sheffield2 one might shovel off cartloads from this place1 and not miss it4 ,if you had your way1 answered ,charles1 you would scrape off the roads till there was nothing to walk on4 ,we are forced to walk on what you call humbug2 we put it under our feet1 but we use it4 ,i cannot think that2 it's like doing evil that good may come4 ,i see shams everywhere4 ,i go into ,st4 ,mary's1 and ,i hear men spouting out commonplaces in a deep or a shrill voice1 or with slow1 clear1 quiet emphasis and significant eyes--as that ,bampton preacher not long ago1 who assured us1 apropos of the resurrection of the body1 that 'all attempts to resuscitate the inanimate corpse by natural methods had hitherto been experimentally abortive4' ,i go into the place where degrees are given--the ,convocation1 ,i think--and there one hears a deal of unmeaning ,latin for hours1 graces1 dispensations1 and proctors walking up and down for nothing2 all in order to keep up a sort of ghost of things passed away for centuries1 while the real work might be done in a quarter of an hour4 ,i fall in with this ,bateman1 and he talks to me of rood-lofts without roods1 and piscin without water1 and niches without images1 and candlesticks without lights1 and masses without ,popery2 till ,i feel1 with ,shakespeare1 that 'all the world's a stage4' ,well1 ,i go to ,shaw1 ,turner1 and ,brown1 very different men1 pupils of ,dr4 ,gloucester--you know whom ,i mean--and they tell us that we ought to put up crucifixes by the wayside1 in order to excite religious feeling4 ,well1 ,i really think you are hard on all these people1 said ,charles2 it is all very much like declamation2 you would destroy externals of every kind4 ,you are like the man in one of ,miss ,edgeworth's novels1 who shut his ears to the music that he might laugh at the dancers4 ,what is the music to which ,i close my ears8 asked ,sheffield4 ,to the meaning of those various acts1 answered ,charles2 the pious feeling which accompanies the sight of the image is the music4 ,to those who have the pious feeling1 certainly1 said ,sheffield2 but to put up images in ,england in order to create the feeling is like dancing to create music4 ,i think you are hard upon ,england1 replied ,charles2 we are a religious people4 ,well1 ,i will put it differently3 do you like music8 ,you ought to know1 said ,charles1 whom ,i have frightened so often with my fiddle4 ,do you like dancing8 ,to tell the truth1 said ,charles1 ,i don't4 ,nor do ,i1 said ,sheffield2 it makes me laugh to think what ,i have done1 when a boy1 to escape dancing2 there is something so absurd in it2 and one had to be civil and to duck to young girls who were either prim or pert4 ,i have behaved quite rudely to them sometimes1 and then have been annoyed at my ungentlemanlikeness1 and not known how to get out of the scrape4 ,well1 ,i didn't know we were so like each other in anything1 said ,charles2 oh1 the misery ,i have endured1 in having to stand up to dance1 and to walk about with a partner6--everybody looking at me1 and ,i so awkward4 ,it has been a torture to me days before and after4 ,they had by this time come up to the foot of the rough rising ground which leads to the sort of table-land on the edge of which ,oxley is placed2 and they stood still awhile to see some equestrians take the hurdles4 ,they then mounted the hill1 and looked back upon ,oxford4 ,perhaps you call those beautiful spires and towers a sham1 said ,charles1 because you see their tops and not their bottoms8 ,whereabouts were we in our argument8 said the other1 reminded that they had been wandering from it for the last ten minutes4 ,oh1 ,i recollect2 ,i know what ,i was at4 ,i was saying that you liked music1 but didn't like dancing2 music leads another person to dance1 but not you2 and dancing does not increase but diminishes the intensity of the pleasure you find in music4 ,in like manner1 it is a mere piece of pedantry to make a religious nation1 like the ,english1 more religious by placing images in the streets2 this is not the ,english way1 and only offends us4 ,if it were our way1 it would come naturally without any one telling us4 ,as music incites to dancing1 so religion would lead to images2 but as dancing does not improve music to those who do not like dancing1 so ceremonies do not improve religion to those who do not like ceremonies4 ,then do you mean1 said ,charles1 that the ,english ,romanists are shams1 because they use crucifixes8 ,stop there1 said ,sheffield2 now you are getting upon a different subject4 ,they believe that there is virtue in images2 that indeed is absurd in them1 but it makes them quite consistent in honouring them4 ,they do not put up images as outward shows1 merely to create feelings in the minds of beholders1 as ,gloucester would do1 but they in good1 downright earnest worship images1 as being more than they seem1 as being not a mere outside show4 ,they pay them a religious worship1 as having been handled by great saints years ago1 as having been used in pestilences1 as having wrought miracles1 as having moved their eyes or bowed their heads2 or1 at least1 as having been blessed by the priest1 and been brought into connection with invisible grace4 ,this is superstitious1 but it is real4 ,charles was not satisfied4 ,an image is a mode of teaching1 he said2 do you mean to say that a person is a sham merely because he mistakes the particular mode of teaching best suited to his own country8 ,i did not say that ,dr4 ,gloucester was a sham1 answered ,sheffield2 but that mode of teaching of his was among ,protestants a sham and a humbug4 ,but this principle will carry you too far1 and destroy itself1 said ,charles4 ,don't you recollect what ,thompson quoted the other day out of ,aristotle1 which he had lately begun in lecture with ,vincent1 and which we thought so acute--that habits are created by those very acts in which they manifest themselves when created8 ,we learn to swim well by trying to swim4 ,now ,bateman1 doubtless1 wishes to introduce piscin and tabernacles2 and to wait1 before beginning1 till they are received1 is like not going into the water till you can swim4 ,well1 but what is ,bateman the better when his piscin are universal8 asked ,sheffield2 what does it mean8 ,in the ,romish ,church it has a use1 ,i know--,i don't know what--but it comes into the ,mass4 ,but if ,bateman makes piscin universal among us1 what has he achieved but the reign of a universal humbug8 ,but1 my dear ,sheffield1 answered ,reding1 consider how many things there are which1 in the course of time1 have altered their original meaning1 and yet have a meaning1 though a changed one1 still4 ,the judge's wig is no sham1 yet it has a history4 ,the ,queen1 at her coronation1 is said to wear a ,roman ,catholic vestment1 is that a sham8 ,does it not still typify and impress upon us the 'divinity that doth hedge a king1' though it has lost the very meaning which the ,church of ,rome gave it8 ,or are you of the number of those1 who1 according to the witticism1 think majesty1 when deprived of its externals1 a jest8 ,then you defend the introduction of unmeaning piscin and candlesticks8 ,i think1 answered ,charles1 that there's a great difference between reviving and retaining2 it may be natural to retain1 even while the use fails1 unnatural to revive when it has failed2 but this is a question of discretion and judgment4 ,then you give it against ,bateman8 said ,sheffield4 ,a slight pause ensued2 then ,charles added1 ,but perhaps these men actually do wish to introduce the realities as well as the externals3 perhaps they wish to use the piscina as well as to have it 444 ,sheffield1 he continued abruptly1 why are not canonicals a sham1 if piscin are shams8 ,canonicals1 said ,sheffield1 as if thinking about them2 no1 canonicals are no sham2 for preaching1 ,i suppose1 is the highest ordinance in our ,church1 and has the richest dress4 ,the robes of a great preacher cost1 ,i know1 many pounds2 for there was one near us who1 on leaving1 had a present from the ladies of an entire set1 and a dozen pair of worked slippers into the bargain4 ,but it's all fitting1 if preaching is the great office of the clergy4 ,next comes the ,sacrament1 and has the surplice and hood4 ,and hood1 he repeated1 musing2 what's that for8 no1 it's the scarf4 ,the hood is worn in the ,university pulpit2 what is the scarf8--it belongs to chaplains1 ,i believe1 that is1 to persons2 ,i can't make a view out of it4 ,my dear ,sheffield1 said ,charles1 you have cut your own throat4 ,here you have been trying to give a sense to the clerical dress1 and cannot2 are you then prepared to call it a sham8 ,answer me this single question--,why does a clergyman wear a surplice when he reads prayers8 ,nay1 ,i will put it more simply--,why can only a clergyman read prayers in church8--,why cannot ,i8 ,sheffield hesitated1 and looked serious4 ,do you know1 he said1 you have just pitched on ,jeremy ,bentham's objection4 ,in his ',church of ,englandism' he proposes1 if ,i recollect rightly1 that a parish-boy should be taught to read the ,liturgy2 and he asks1 ,why send a person to the ,university for three or four years at an enormous expense1 why teach him ,latin and ,greek1 on purpose to read what any boy could be taught to read at a dame's school8 ,what is the virtue of a clergyman's reading8 ,something of this kind1 ,bentham says2 and1 he added1 slowly1 to tell the truth1 ,i don't know how to answer him4 ,reding was surprised1 and shocked1 and puzzled too2 he did not know what to say2 when the conversation was1 perhaps fortunately1 interrupted4 ,,chapter ,v4 ,every year brings changes and reforms4 ,we do not know what is the state of ,oxley ,church now2 it may have rood-loft1 piscina1 sedilia1 all new2 or it may be reformed backwards1 the seats on principle turning from the ,communion-table1 and the pulpit planted in the middle of the aisle2 but at the time when these two young men walked through the churchyard1 there was nothing very good or very bad to attract them within the building2 and they were passing on1 when they observed1 coming out of the church1 what ,sheffield called an elderly don1 a fellow of a college1 whom ,charles knew4 ,he was a man of family1 and had some little property of his own1 had been a contemporary of his father's at the ,university1 and had from time to time been a guest at the parsonage4 ,charles had1 in consequence1 known him from a boy2 and now1 since he came into residence1 he had1 as was natural1 received many small attentions from him4 ,once1 when he was late for his own hall1 he had given him his dinner in his rooms2 he had taken him out on a fishing expedition towards ,faringdon2 and had promised him tickets for some ladies1 lionesses of his1 who were coming up to the ,commemoration4 ,he was a shrewd1 easy-tempered1 free-spoken man1 of small desires and no ambition2 of no very keen sensibilities or romantic delicacies1 and very little religious pretension2 that is1 though unexceptionable in his deportment1 he hated the show of religion1 and was impatient at those who affected it4 ,he had known the ,university for thirty years1 and formed a right estimate of most things in it4 ,he had come out to ,oxley to take a funeral for a friend1 and was now returning home4 ,he hallooed to ,charles1 who1 though feeling at first awkward on finding himself with two such different friends and in two such different relations1 was1 after a time1 partially restored to himself by the unconcern of ,mr4 ,malcolm2 and the three walked home together4 ,yet1 even to the last1 he did not quite know how and where to walk1 and how to carry himself1 particularly when they got near ,oxford1 and he fell in with various parties who greeted him in passing4 ,charles1 by way of remark1 said they had been looking in at a pretty little chapel on the common1 which was now in the course of repair4 ,mr4 ,malcolm laughed4 ,so1 ,charles1 he said1 you're bit with the new fashion4 ,charles coloured1 and asked1 ,what fashion8 adding1 that a friend1 by accident1 had taken them in4 ,you ask what fashion1 said ,mr4 ,malcolm2 why1 the newest1 latest fashion4 ,this is a place of fashions2 there have been many fashions in my time4 ,the greater part of the residents1 that is1 the boys1 change once in three years2 the fellows and tutors1 perhaps1 in half a dozen2 and every generation has its own fashion4 ,there is no principle of stability in ,oxford1 except the ,heads1 and they are always the same1 and always will be the same to the end of the chapter4 ,what is in now1 he asked1 among you youngsters--drinking or cigars8 ,charles laughed modestly1 and said he hoped drinking had gone out everywhere4 ,worse things may come in1 said ,mr4 ,malcolm2 but there are fashions everywhere4 ,there was once a spouting club1 perhaps it is in favour still2 before it was the music-room4 ,once geology was all the rage2 now it is theology2 soon it will be architecture1 or medieval antiquities1 or editions and codices4 ,each wears out in its turn2 all depends on one or two active men2 but the secretary takes a wife1 or the professor gets a stall2 and then the meetings are called irregularly1 and nothing is done in them1 and so gradually the affair dwindles and dies4 ,sheffield asked whether the present movement had not spread too widely through the country for such a termination2 he did not know much about it himself1 but the papers were full of it1 and it was the talk of every neighbourhood2 it was not confined to ,oxford4 ,i don't know about the country1 said ,mr4 ,malcolm1 that is a large question2 but it has not the elements of stability here4 ,these gentlemen will take livings and marry1 and that will be the end of the business4 ,i am not speaking against them2 they are1 ,i believe1 very respectable men2 but they are riding on the spring-tide of a fashion4 ,charles said it was a nuisance to see the party-spirit it introduced4 ,oxford ought to be a place of quiet and study2 peace and the ,muses always went together2 whereas there was talk1 talk1 in every quarter4 ,a man could not go about his duties in a natural way1 and take every one as he came1 but was obliged to take part in questions1 and to consider points which he might wish to put from him1 and must sport an opinion when he really had none to give4 ,mr4 ,malcolm assented in a half-absent way1 looking at the view before him1 and seemingly enjoying it4 ,people call this county ugly1 said he1 and perhaps it is2 but whether ,i am used to it or no1 ,i always am pleased with it4 ,the lights are always new2 and thus the landscape1 if it deserves the name1 is always presented in a new dress4 ,i have known ,shotover there take the most opposite hues1 sometimes purple1 sometimes a bright saffron or tawny orange4 ,here he stopped3 ,yes1 you speak of party-spirit2 very true1 there's a good deal of it4444 ,no1 ,i don't think there's much1 he continued1 rousing2 certainly there is more division just at this minute in ,oxford1 but there always is division1 always rivalry4 ,the separate societies have their own interests and honour to maintain1 and quarrel1 as the orders do in the ,church of ,rome4 ,no1 that's too grand a comparison2 rather1 ,oxford is like an almshouse for clergymen's widows4 ,self-importance1 jealousy1 tittle-tattle are the order of the day4 ,it has always been so in my time4 ,two great ladies1 ,mrs4 ,vice-,chancellor and ,mrs4 ,divinity-,professor1 can't agree1 and have followings respectively3 or ,vice-,chancellor himself1 being a new broom1 sweeps all the young ,masters clean out of ,convocation ,house1 to their great indignation3 or ,mr4 ,slaney1 ,dean of ,st4 ,peter's1 does not scruple to say in a stage-coach that ,mr4 ,wood is no scholar2 on which the said ,wood calls him in return 'slanderous ,slaney2' or the elderly ,mr4 ,barge1 late ,senior ,fellow of ,st4 ,michael's1 thinks that his pretty bride has not been received with due honours2 or ,dr4 ,crotchet is for years kept out of his destined bishopric by a sinister influence2 or ,mr4 ,professor ,carraway has been infamously shown up1 in the ,edinburgh1 by an idle fellow whom he plucked in the schools2 or 7majora movemus7 three colleges interchange a mortal vow of opposition to a fourth2 or the young working ,masters conspire against the ,heads4 ,now1 however1 we are improving2 if we must quarrel1 let it be the rivalry of intellect and conscience1 rather than of interest or temper2 let us contend for things1 not for shadows4 ,sheffield was pleased at this1 and ventured to say that the present state of things was more real1 and therefore more healthy4 ,mr4 ,malcolm did not seem to hear him1 for he did not reply2 and1 as they were now approaching the bridge again1 the conversation stopped4 ,sheffield looked slily at ,charles1 as ,mr4 ,malcolm proceeded with them up ,high ,street2 and both of them had the triumph and the amusement of being convoyed safely past a proctor1 who was patrolling it1 under the protection of a ,master4 ,,chapter ,,vi4 ,the walk to ,oxley had not been the first or the second occasion on which ,charles had1 in one shape or other1 encountered ,sheffield's views about realities and shams2 and his preachments had begun to make an impression on him2 that is1 he felt that there was truth in them at bottom1 and a truth new to him4 ,he was not a person to let a truth sleep in his mind2 though it did not vegetate very quickly1 it was sure ultimately to be pursued into its consequences1 and to affect his existing opinions4 ,in the instance before us1 he saw ,sheffield's principle was more or less antagonistic to his own favourite maxim1 that it was a duty to be pleased with every one4 ,contradictions could not both be real3 when an affirmative was true1 a negative was false4 ,all doctrines could not be equally sound3 there was a right and a wrong4 ,the theory of dogmatic truth1 as opposed to latitudinarianism 7he did not know their names or their history1 or suspect what was going on within him71 had in the course of these his first terms1 gradually begun to energise in his mind4 ,let him but see the absurdities of the latitudinarian principle1 when carried out1 and he is likely to be still more opposed to it4 ,bateman1 among his peculiarities1 had a notion that bringing persons of contrary sentiments together was the likeliest way of making a party agreeable1 or at least useful4 ,he had done his best to give his breakfast1 to which our friends were invited1 this element of perfection2 not1 however1 to his own satisfaction2 for with all his efforts1 he had but picked up ,mr4 ,freeborn1 a young ,evangelical ,master1 with whom ,sheffield was acquainted2 a sharp1 but not very wise freshman1 who1 having been spoiled at home1 and having plenty of money1 professed to be sthetic1 and kept his college authorities in a perpetual fidget lest he should some morning wake up a ,papist2 and a friend of his1 a nice1 modest-looking youth1 who1 like a mouse1 had keen darting eyes1 and ate his bread and butter in absolute silence4 ,they had hardly seated themselves1 and ,sheffield was pouring out coffee1 and a plate of muffins was going round1 and ,bateman was engaged1 saucepan in hand1 in the operation of landing his eggs1 now boiled1 upon the table1 when our flighty youth1 whose name was ,white1 observed how beautiful the ,catholic custom was of making eggs the emblem of the ,easter-festival4 ,it is truly ,catholic1 said he2 for it is retained in parts of ,england1 you have it in ,russia1 and in ,rome itself1 where an egg is served up on every plate through the ,easter-week1 after being1 ,i believe1 blessed2 and it is as expressive and significant as it is ,catholic4 ,beautiful indeed6 said their host2 so pretty1 so sweet2 ,i wonder whether our ,reformers thought of it1 or the profound ,hooker1--he was full of types--or ,jewell4 ,you recollect the staff ,jewell gave ,hooker3 that was a type4 ,it was like the sending of ,elisha's staff by his servant to the dead child4 ,oh1 my dear1 dear ,bateman1 cried ,sheffield1 you are making ,hooker ,gehazi6 ,that's just the upshot of such trifling1 said ,mr4 ,freeborn2 you never know where to find it2 it proves anything1 and disproves anything4 ,that is only till it's sanctioned1 said ,white2 ,when the ,catholic ,church sanctions it1 we're safe4 ,yes1 we're safe1 said ,bateman2 it's safe when it's ,catholic4 ,yes1 continued ,white1 things change their nature altogether when they are taken up by the ,catholic ,church3 that's how we are allowed to do evil that good may come4 ,what's that8 said ,bateman4 ,why1 said ,white1 the ,church makes evil good4 ,my dear ,white1 said ,bateman gravely1 that's going too far2 it is indeed4 ,mr4 ,freeborn suspended his breakfast operations1 and sat back in his chair4 ,why1 continued ,white1 is not idolatry wrong--yet image-worship is right8 ,mr4 ,freeborn was in a state of collapse4 ,that's a bad instance1 ,white1 said ,sheffield2 there are people in the world who are uncatholic enough to think image-worship is wrong1 as well as idolatry4 ,a mere ,jesuitical distinction1 said ,freeborn with emotion4 ,well1 said ,white1 who did not seem in great awe of the young ,m4,a41 though some years1 of course1 his senior1 ,i will take a better instance3 who does not know that baptism gives grace8 yet there were heathen baptismal rites1 which1 of course1 were devilish4 ,i should not be disposed1 ,mr4 ,white1 to grant you so much as you would wish1 said ,freeborn1 about the virtue of baptism4 ,not about ,christian baptism8 asked ,white4 ,it is easy1 answered ,freeborn1 to mistake the sign for the thing signified4 ,not about ,catholic baptism8 repeated ,white4 ,catholic baptism is a mere deceit and delusion1 retorted ,mr4 ,freeborn4 ,oh1 my dear ,freeborn1 interposed ,bateman1 now you are going too far2 you are indeed4 ,catholic1 ,catholic--,i don't know what you mean1 said ,freeborn4 ,i mean1 said ,white1 the baptism of the one ,catholic ,church of which the ,creed speaks3 it's quite intelligible4 ,but what do you mean by the ,catholic ,church8 asked ,freeborn4 ,the ,anglican1 answered ,bateman4 ,the ,roman1 answered ,white2 both in the same breath4 ,there was a general laugh4 ,there is nothing to laugh at1 said ,bateman2 ,anglican and ,roman are one4 ,one6 impossible1 cried ,sheffield4 ,much worse than impossible1 observed ,mr4 ,freeborn4 ,i should make a distinction1 said ,bateman3 ,i should say1 they are one1 except the corruptions of the ,romish ,church4 ,that is1 they are one1 except where they differ1 said ,sheffield4 ,precisely so1 said ,bateman4 ,rather1 ,i should say1 objected ,mr4 ,freeborn1 two1 except where they agree4 ,that's just the issue1 said ,sheffield2 ,bateman says that the ,churches are one except when they are two2 and ,freeborn says that they are two except when they are one4 ,it was a relief at this moment that the cook's boy came in with a dish of hot sausages2 but though a relief1 it was not a diversion2 the conversation proceeded4 ,two persons did not like it2 ,freeborn1 who was simply disgusted at the doctrine1 and ,reding1 who thought it a bore2 yet it was the bad luck of ,freeborn forthwith to set ,charles against him1 as well as the rest1 and to remove the repugnance which he had to engage in the dispute4 ,freeborn1 in fact1 thought theology itself a mistake1 as substituting1 as he considered1 worthless intellectual notions for the vital truths of religion2 so he now went on to observe1 putting down his knife and fork1 that it really was to him inconceivable1 that real religion should depend on metaphysical distinctions1 or outward observances2 that it was quite a different thing in ,scripture2 that ,scripture said much of faith and holiness1 but hardly a word about ,churches and forms4 ,he proceeded to say that it was the great and evil tendency of the human mind to interpose between itself and its ,creator some self-invented mediator1 and it did not matter at all whether that human device was a rite1 or a creed1 or a form of prayer1 or good works1 or communion with particular ,churches--all were but flattering unctions to the soul1 if they were considered necessary2 the only safe way of using them was to use them with the feeling that you might dispense with them2 that none of them went to the root of the matter1 for that faith1 that is1 firm belief that ,god had forgiven you1 was the one thing needful2 that where that one thing was present1 everything else was superfluous2 that where it was wanting1 nothing else availed4 ,so strongly did he hold this1 that 7he confessed he put it pointedly1 but still not untruly71 where true faith was present1 a person might be anything in profession2 an ,arminian1 a ,calvinist1 an ,episcopalian1 a ,presbyterian1 a ,swedenborgian--nay1 a ,unitarian--he would go further1 looking at ,white1 a ,papist1 yet be in a state of salvation4 ,freeborn came out rather more strongly than in his sober moments he would have approved2 but he was a little irritated1 and wished to have his turn of speaking4 ,it was altogether a great testification4 ,thank you for your liberality to the poor ,papists1 said ,white2 it seems they are safe if they are hypocrites1 professing to be ,catholics1 while they are ,protestants in heart4 ,unitarians1 too1 said ,sheffield1 are debtors to your liberality2 it seems a man need not fear to believe too little1 so that he feels a good deal4 ,rather1 said ,white1 if he believes himself forgiven1 he need not believe anything else4 ,reding put in his word2 he said that in the ,prayer ,book1 belief in the ,holy ,trinity was represented1 not as an accident1 but as before all things necessary to salvation4 ,that's not a fair answer1 ,reding1 said ,sheffield2 what ,mr4 ,freeborn observed was1 that there's no creed in the ,bible2 and you answer that there is a creed in the ,prayer ,book4 ,then the ,bible says one thing1 and the ,prayer ,book another1 said ,bateman4 ,no1 answered ,freeborn2 ,the ,prayer ,book only deduces from ,scripture2 the ,athanasian ,creed is a human invention2 true1 but human1 and to be received1 as one of the ,articles expressly says1 because 'founded on ,scripture4' ,creeds are useful in their place1 so is the ,church2 but neither ,creed nor ,church is religion4 ,then why do you make so much of your doctrine of 'faith only'8 said ,bateman2 for that is not in ,scripture1 and is but a human deduction4 ,my doctrine6 cried ,freeborn2 why it's in the ,articles2 the ,articles expressly say that we are justified by faith only4 ,the ,articles are not ,scripture any more than the ,prayer ,book1 said ,sheffield4 ,nor do the ,articles say that the doctrine they propound is necessary for salvation1 added ,bateman4 ,all this was very unfair on ,freeborn1 though he had provoked it4 ,here were four persons on him at once1 and the silent fifth apparently a sympathiser4 ,sheffield talked through malice2 ,white from habit2 ,reding came in because he could not help it2 and ,bateman spoke on principle2 he had a notion that he was improving ,freeborn's views by this process of badgering4 ,at least he did not improve his temper1 which was suffering4 ,most of the party were undergraduates2 he 7,freeborn7 was a ,master2 it was too bad of ,bateman4 ,he finished in silence his sausage1 which had got quite cold4 ,the conversation flagged2 there was a rise in toast and muffins2 coffee-cups were put aside1 and tea flowed freely4 ,,chapter ,,vii4 ,freeborn did not like to be beaten2 he began again4 ,religion1 he said1 was a matter of the heart2 no one could interpret ,scripture rightly whose heart was not right4 ,till our eyes were enlightened1 to dispute about the sense of ,scripture1 to attempt to deduce from ,scripture1 was beating about the bush3 it was like the blind disputing about colours4 ,if this is true1 said ,bateman1 no one ought to argue about religion at all2 but you were the first to do so1 ,freeborn4 ,of course1 answered ,freeborn1 those who have found the truth are the very persons to argue1 for they have the gift4 ,and the very last persons to persuade1 said ,sheffield2 for they have the gift all to themselves4 ,therefore true ,christians should argue with each other1 and with no one else1 said ,bateman4 ,but those are the very persons who don't want it1 said ,sheffield2 reasoning must be for the unconverted1 not for the converted4 ,it is the means of seeking4 ,freeborn persisted that the reason of the unconverted was carnal1 and that such could not understand ,scripture4 ,i have always thought1 said ,reding1 that reason was a general gift1 though faith is a special and personal one4 ,if faith is really rational1 all ought to see that it is rational2 else1 from the nature of the case1 it is not rational4 ,but ,st4 ,paul says1 answered ,freeborn1 that 'to the natural man the things of the ,spirit are foolishness4' ,but how are we to arrive at truth at all1 said ,reding1 except by reason8 ,it is the appointed method for our guidance4 ,brutes go by instinct1 men by reason4 ,they had fallen on a difficult subject2 all were somewhat puzzled except ,white1 who had not been attending1 and was simply wearied2 he now interposed4 ,it would be a dull world1 he said1 if men went by reason3 they may think they do1 but they don't4 ,really1 they are led by their feelings1 their affections1 by the sense of the beautiful1 and the good1 and the holy4 ,religion is the beautiful2 the clouds1 sun1 and sky1 the fields and the woods1 are religion4 ,this would make all religions true1 said ,freeborn1 good and bad4 ,no1 answered ,white1 heathen rites are bloody and impure1 not beautiful2 and ,mahometanism is as cold and as dry as any ,calvinistic meeting4 ,the ,mahometans have no altars or priests1 nothing but a pulpit and a preacher4 ,like ,st4 ,mary's1 said ,sheffield4 ,very like1 said ,white2 we have no life or poetry in the ,church of ,england2 the ,catholic ,church alone is beautiful4 ,you would see what ,i mean if you went into a foreign cathedral1 or even into one of the ,catholic churches in our large towns4 ,the celebrant1 deacon1 and subdeacon1 acolytes with lights1 the incense1 and the chanting--all combine to one end1 one act of worship4 ,you feel it is really a worshipping2 every sense1 eyes1 ears1 smell1 are made to know that worship is going on4 ,the laity on the floor saying their beads1 or making their acts2 the choir singing out the ,kyrie2 and the priest and his assistants bowing low1 and saying the ,confiteor to each other4 ,this is worship1 and it is far above reason4 ,this was spoken with all his heart2 but it was quite out of keeping with the conversation which had preceded it1 and ,white's poetry was almost as disagreeable to the party as ,freeborn's prose4 ,white1 you should turn ,catholic out and out1 said ,sheffield4 ,my dear good fellow1 said ,bateman1 think what you are saying4 ,you can't really have gone to a schismatical chapel4 ,oh1 for shame6 ,freeborn observed1 gravely1 that if the two ,churches were one1 as had been maintained1 he could not see1 do what he would1 why it was wrong to go to and fro from one to the other4 ,you forget1 said ,bateman to ,white1 you have1 or might have1 all this in your own ,church1 without the ,romish corruptions4 ,as to the ,romish corruptions1 answered ,white1 ,i know very little about them4 ,freeborn groaned audibly4 ,i know very little about them1 repeated ,white eagerly1 very little2 but what is that to the purpose8 ,we must take things as we find them4 ,i don't like what is bad in the ,catholic ,church1 if there is bad1 but what is good4 ,i do not go to it for what is bad1 but for what is good4 ,you can't deny that what ,i admire is very good and beautiful4 ,only you try to introduce it into your own ,church4 ,you would give your ears1 you know you would1 to hear the ,dies ir4 ,here a general burst of laughter took place4 ,white was an ,irishman4 ,it was a happy interruption2 the party rose up from table1 and a tap at that minute1 which sounded at the door1 succeeded in severing the thread of the conversation4 ,it was a printseller's man with a large book of plates4 ,well timed1 said ,bateman2--put them down1 ,baker3 or rather give them to me2--,i can take the opinion of you men on a point ,i have much at heart4 ,you know ,i wanted you1 ,freeborn1 to go with me to see my chapel2 ,sheffield and ,reding have looked into it4 ,well now1 just see here4 ,he opened the portfolio2 it contained views of the ,campo ,santo at ,pisa4 ,the leaves were slowly turned over in silence1 the spectators partly admiring1 partly not knowing what to think1 partly wondering at what was coming4 ,what do you think my plan is8 he continued4 ,you twitted me1 ,sheffield1 because my chapel would be useless4 ,now ,i mean to get a cemetery attached to it2 there is plenty of land2 and then the chapel will become a chantry4 ,but now1 what will you say if we have a copy of these splendid medieval monuments round the burial-place1 both sculpture and painting8 ,now1 ,sheffield1 ,mr4 ,critic1 what do you say to that8 ,a most admirable plan1 said ,sheffield1 and quite removes my objections4444 ,a chantry6 what is that8 ,don't they say ,mass in it for the dead8 ,oh1 no1 no1 no1 said ,bateman1 in fear of ,freeborn2 we'll have none of your ,popery4 ,it will be a simple1 guileless chapel1 in which the ,church ,service will be read4 ,meanwhile ,sheffield was slowly turning over the plates4 ,he stopped at one4 ,what will you do with that figure8 he said1 pointing to a ,madonna4 ,oh1 it will be best1 most prudent1 to leave it out2 certainly1 certainly4 ,sheffield soon began again3 ,but look here1 my good fellow1 what do you do with these saints and angels8 do see1 why here's a complete legend2 do you mean to have this8 ,here's a set of miracles1 and a woman invoking a saint in heaven4 ,bateman looked cautiously at them1 and did not answer4 ,he would have shut the book1 but ,sheffield wished to see some more4 ,meanwhile he said1 ,oh yes1 true1 there are some things2 but ,i have an expedient for all this2 ,i mean to make it all allegorical4 ,the ,blessed ,virgin shall be the ,church1 and the saints shall be cardinal and other virtues2 and as to that saint's life1 ,st4 ,ranieri's1 it shall be a ,catholic ',pilgrim's ,progress4' ,good6 then you must drop all these popes and bishops1 copes and chalices1 said ,sheffield2 and have their names written under the rest1 that people mayn't take them for saints and angels4 ,perhaps you had better have scrolls from their mouths1 in old ,english4 ,this ,st4 ,thomas is stout2 make him say1 ',i am ,mr4 ,dreadnought1' or ',i am ,giant ,despair2' and1 since this beautiful saint bears a sort of dish1 make her ',mrs4 ,creature ,comfort4' ,but look here1 he continued1 a whole set of devils2 are these to be painted up8 ,bateman attempted forcibly to shut the book2 ,sheffield went on3 ,st4 ,anthony's temptations2 what's this8 ,here's the fiend in the shape of a cat on a wine-barrel4 ,really1 really1 said ,bateman1 disgusted1 and getting possession of it1 you are quite offensive1 quite4 ,we will look at them when you are more serious4 ,sheffield indeed was very provoking1 and ,bateman more good-humoured than many persons would have been in his place4 ,meanwhile ,freeborn1 who had had his gown in his hand the last two minutes1 nodded to his host1 and took his departure by himself2 and ,white and ,willis soon followed in company4 ,really1 said ,bateman to ,sheffield1 when they were gone1 you and ,white1 each in his own way1 are so very rash in your mode of speaking1 and before other people1 too4 ,i wished to teach ,freeborn a little good ,catholicism1 and you have spoilt all4 ,i hoped something would have come out of this breakfast4 ,but only think of ,white6 it will all out4 ,freeborn will tell it to his set4 ,it is very bad1 very bad indeed4 ,and you1 my friend1 are not much better2 never serious4 ,what could you mean by saying that our ,church is not one with the ,romish8 ,it was giving ,freeborn such an advantage4 ,sheffield looked provokingly easy2 and1 leaning with his back against the mantelpiece1 and his coat-tail almost playing with the spout of the kettle1 replied1 ,you had a most awkward team to drive4 ,then he added1 looking sideways at him1 with his head back1 ,and why had you1 ,o most correct of men1 the audacity to say that the ,english ,church and the ,romish ,church were one8 ,it must be so1 answered ,bateman2 there is but one ,church--the ,creed says so2 would you make two8 ,i don't speak of doctrine1 said ,sheffield1 but of fact4 ,i didn't mean to say that there were two ,churches2 nor to deny that there was one ,church4 ,i but denied the fact1 that what are evidently two bodies were one body4 ,bateman thought awhile2 and ,charles employed himself in scraping down the soot from the back of the chimney with the poker4 ,he did not wish to speak1 but he was not sorry to listen to such an argument4 ,my good fellow1 said ,bateman1 in a tone of instruction1 you are making a distinction between a ,church and a body which ,i don't quite comprehend4 ,you say that there are two bodies1 and yet but one ,church4 ,if so1 the ,church is not a body1 but something abstract1 a mere name1 a general idea2 is that your meaning8 if so1 you are an honest ,calvinist4 ,you are another1 answered ,sheffield2 for if you make two visible ,churches1 ,english and ,romish1 to be one ,church1 that one ,church must be invisible1 not visible4 ,thus1 if ,i hold an abstract ,church1 you hold an invisible one4 ,i do not see that1 said ,bateman4 ,prove the two ,churches to be one1 said ,sheffield1 and then ,i'll prove something else4 ,some paradox8 said ,bateman4 ,of course1 answered ,sheffield1 a huge one2 but yours1 not mine4 ,prove the ,english and ,romish ,churches to be in any sense one1 and ,i will prove by parallel arguments that in the same sense we and the ,wesleyans are one4 ,this was a fair challenge4 ,bateman1 however1 suddenly put on a demure look1 and was silent4 ,we are on sacred subjects1 he said at length in a subdued tone1 we are on very sacred subjects2 we must be reverent1 and he drew a very long face4 ,sheffield laughed out1 nor could ,reding stand it4 ,what is it8 cried ,sheffield2 don't be hard on me8 ,what have ,i done8 ,where did the sacredness begin8 ,i eat my words4 ,oh1 he meant nothing1 said ,charles1 indeed he did not2 he's more serious than he seems2 do answer him2 ,i am interested4 ,really1 ,i do wish to treat the subject gravely1 said ,sheffield2 ,i will begin again4 ,i am very sorry1 indeed ,i am4 ,let me put the objection more reverently4 ,bateman relaxed3 ,my good ,sheffield1 he said1 the thing is irreverent1 not the manner4 ,it is irreverent to liken your holy mother to the ,wesleyan schismatics4 ,i repent1 ,i do indeed1 said ,sheffield2 it was a wavering of faith2 it was very unseemly1 ,i confess it4 ,what can ,i say more8 ,look at me2 won't this do8 ,but now tell me1 do tell me1 how are we one body with the ,romanists1 yet the ,wesleyans not one body with us8 ,bateman looked at him1 and was satisfied with the expression of his face4 ,it's a strange question for you to ask1 he said2 ,i fancied you were a sharper fellow4 ,don't you see that we have the apostolical succession as well as the ,romanists8 ,but ,romanists say1 answered ,sheffield1 that that is not enough for unity2 that we ought to be in communion with the ,pope4 ,that's their mistake1 answered ,bateman4 ,that's just what the ,wesleyans say of us1 retorted ,sheffield1 when we won't acknowledge their succession2 they say it's our mistake4 ,their succession6 cried ,bateman2 they have no succession4 ,yes1 they have1 said ,sheffield2 they have a ministerial succession4 ,it isn't apostolical1 answered ,bateman4 ,yes1 but it is evangelical1 a succession of doctrine1 said ,sheffield4 ,doctrine6 ,evangelical6 cried ,bateman2 whoever heard6 that's not enough2 doctrine is not enough without bishops4 ,and succession is not enough without the ,pope1 answered ,sheffield4 ,they act against the bishops1 said ,bateman1 not quite seeing whither he was going4 ,and we act against the ,pope1 said ,sheffield4 ,we say that the ,pope isn't necessary1 said ,bateman4 ,and they say that bishops are not necessary1 returned ,sheffield4 ,they were out of breath1 and paused to see where they stood4 ,presently ,bateman said1 ,my good sir1 this is a question of fact1 not of argumentative cleverness4 ,the question is1 whether it is not true that bishops are necessary to the notion of a ,church1 and whether it is not false that ,popes are necessary4 ,no1 no1 cried ,sheffield1 the question is this1 whether obedience to our bishops is not necessary to make ,wesleyans one body with us1 and obedience to their ,pope necessary to make us one body with the ,romanists4 ,you maintain the one1 and deny the other2 ,i maintain both4 ,maintain both1 or deny both3 ,i am consistent2 you are inconsistent4 ,bateman was puzzled4 ,in a word1 ,sheffield added1 succession is not unity1 any more than doctrine4 ,not unity8 ,what then is unity8 asked ,bateman4 ,oneness of polity1 answered ,sheffield4 ,bateman thought awhile4 ,the idea is preposterous1 he said3 here we have possession2 here we are established since ,king ,lucius's time1 or since ,st4 ,paul preached here2 filling the island2 one continuous ,church2 with the same territory1 the same succession1 the same hierarchy1 the same civil and political position1 the same churches4 ,yes1 he proceeded1 we have the very same fabrics1 the memorials of a thousand years1 doctrine stamped and perpetuated in stone2 all the mystical teaching of the old saints4 ,what have the ,methodists to do with ,catholic rites8 with altars1 with sacrifice1 with rood-lofts1 with fonts1 with niches8--they call it all superstition4 ,don't be angry with me1 ,bateman1 said ,sheffield1 and1 before going1 ,i will put forth a parable4 ,here's the ,church of ,england1 as like a ,protestant ,establishment as it can stare2 bishops and people1 all but a few like yourselves1 call it ,protestant2 the living body calls itself ,protestant2 the living body abjures ,catholicism1 flings off the name and the thing1 hates the ,church of ,rome1 laughs at sacramental power1 despises the ,fathers1 is jealous of priestcraft1 is a ,protestant reality1 is a ,catholic sham4 ,this existing reality1 which is alive and no mistake1 you wish to top with a filagree-work of screens1 dorsals1 pastoral staffs1 croziers1 mitres1 and the like4 ,now most excellent ,bateman1 will you hear my parable8 will you be offended at it8 ,silence gave consent1 and ,sheffield proceeded4 ,why1 once on a time a negro boy1 when his master was away1 stole into his wardrobe1 and determined to make himself fine at his master's expense4 ,so he was presently seen in the streets1 naked as usual1 but strutting up and down with a cocked hat on his head1 and a pair of white kid gloves on his hands4 ,away with you6 get out1 you graceless1 hopeless fellow6 said ,bateman1 discharging the sofa-bolster at his head4 ,meanwhile ,sheffield ran to the door1 and quickly found himself with ,charles in the street below4 ,,chapter ,,viii4 ,sheffield and ,charles may go their way2 but we must follow ,white and ,willis out of ,bateman's lodgings4 ,it was a ,saint's day1 and they had no lectures2 they walked arm-in-arm along ,broad ,street1 evidently very intimate1 and ,willis found his voice3 ,i can't bear that ,freeborn1 said he1 he's such a prig2 and ,i like him the less because ,i am obliged to know him4 ,you knew him in the country1 ,i think8 said ,white4 ,in consequence1 he has several times had me to his spiritual tea-parties1 and has introduced me to old ,mr4 ,grimes1 a good1 kind-hearted old fogie1 but an awful evangelical1 and his wife worse4 ,grimes is the old original religious tea-man1 and ,freeborn imitates him4 ,they get together as many men as they can1 perhaps twenty freshmen1 bachelors1 and masters1 who sit in a circle1 with cups and saucers in their hands and hassocks at their knees4 ,some insufferable person of ,capel ,hall or ,st4 ,mark's1 who hardly speaks ,english1 under pretence of asking ,mr4 ,grimes some divinity question1 holds forth on original sin1 or justification1 or assurance1 monopolizing the conversation4 ,then tea-things go1 and a portion of ,scripture comes instead2 and old ,grimes expounds2 very good it is1 doubtless1 though he is a layman4 ,he's a good old soul2 but no one in the room can stand it2 even ,mrs4 ,grimes nods over her knitting1 and some of the dear brothers breathe very audibly4 ,mr4 ,grimes1 however1 hears nothing but himself4 ,at length he stops2 his hearers wake up1 and the hassocks begin4 ,then we go2 and ,mr4 ,grimes and the ,st4 ,mark's man call it a profitable evening4 ,i can't make out why any one goes twice2 yet some men never miss4 ,they all go on faith1 said ,white3 faith in ,mr4 ,grimes4 ,faith in old ,grimes1 said ,willis2 an old half-pay lieutenant6 ,here's a church open1 said ,white2 that's odd2 let's go in4 ,they entered2 an old woman was dusting the pews as if for service4 ,that will be all set right1 said ,willis2 we must have no women1 but sacristans and servers4 ,then1 you know1 all these pews will go to the right about4 ,did you ever see a finer church for a function8 ,where would you put the sacristy8 said ,willis2 that closet is meant for the vestry1 but would never be large enough4 ,that depends on the number of altars the church admits1 answered ,white2 each altar must have its own dresser and wardrobe in the sacristy4 ,one1 said ,willis1 counting1 where the pulpit stands1 that'll be the high altar2 one quite behind1 that may be ,our ,lady's2 two1 one on each side of the chancel--four already2 to whom do you dedicate them8 ,the church is not wide enough for those side ones1 objected ,white4 ,oh1 but it is1 said ,willis2 ,i have seen1 abroad1 altars with only one step to them1 and they need not be very broad4 ,i think1 too1 this wall admits of an arch--look at the depth of the window2 that would be a gain of room4 ,no1 persisted ,white2 the chancel is too narrow2 and he began to measure the floor with his pocket-handkerchief4 ,what would you say is the depth of an altar from the wall8 he asked4 ,on looking up he saw some ladies in the church whom he and ,willis knew--the pretty ,miss ,boltons--very ,catholic girls1 and really kind1 charitable persons into the bargain4 ,we cannot add1 that they were much wiser at that time than the two young gentlemen whom they now encountered2 and if any fair reader thinks our account of them a reflection on ,catholic-minded ladies generally1 we beg distinctly to say1 that we by no means put them forth as a type of a class2 that among such persons were to be found1 as we know well1 the gentlest spirits and the tenderest hearts2 and that nothing short of severe fidelity to historical truth keeps us from adorning these two young persons in particular with that prudence and good sense with which so many such ladies were endowed4 ,these two sisters had open hands1 if they had not wise heads2 and their object in entering the church 7which was not the church of their own parish7 was to see the old woman1 who was at once a subject and instrument of their bounty1 and to say a word about her little grandchildren1 in whom they were interested4 ,as may be supposed1 they did not know much of matters ecclesiastical1 and they knew less of themselves2 and the latter defect ,white could not supply1 though he was doing1 and had done1 his best to remedy the former deficiency2 and every meeting did a little4 ,the two parties left the church together1 and the gentlemen saw the ladies home4 ,we were imagining1 ,miss ,bolton1 ,white said1 walking at a respectful distance from her1 we were imagining ,st4 ,james's a ,catholic church1 and trying to arrange things as they ought to be4 ,what was your first reform8 asked ,miss ,bolton4 ,i fear1 answered ,white1 it would fare hard with your protge1 the old lady who dusts out the pews4 ,why1 certainly1 said ,miss ,bolton1 because there would be no pews to dust4 ,but not only in office1 but in person1 or rather in character1 she must make her exit from the church1 said ,white4 ,impossible1 said ,miss ,bolton2 are women1 then1 to remain ,protestants8 ,oh1 no1 answered ,white1 the good lady will reappear1 only in another character2 she will be a widow4 ,and who will take her present place8 ,a sacristan1 answered ,white2 a sacristan in a cotta4 ,do you like the short cotta or the long8 he continued1 turning to the younger lady4 ,i8 answered ,miss ,charlotte2 ,i always forget1 but ,i think you told us the ,roman was the short one2 ,i'm for the short cotta4 ,you know1 ,charlotte1 said ,miss ,bolton1 that there's a great reform going on in ,england in ecclesiastical vestments4 ,i hate all reforms1 answered ,charlotte1 from the ,reformation downwards4 ,besides1 we have got some way in our cope2 you have seen it1 ,mr4 ,white8 it's such a sweet pattern4 ,have you determined what to do with it8 asked ,willis4 ,time enough to think of that1 said ,charlotte2 it'll take four years to finish4 ,four years6 cried ,white2 we shall be all real ,catholics by then2 ,england will be converted4 ,it will be done just in time for the ,bishop1 said ,charlotte4 ,oh1 it's not good enough for him6 said ,miss ,bolton2 but it may do in church for the ,asperges4 ,how different all things will be6 continued she2 ,i don't quite like1 though1 the idea of a cardinal in ,oxford4 ,must we be so very ,roman8 ,i don't see why we might not be quite ,catholic without the ,pope4 ,oh1 you need not be afraid1 said ,white sagely2 things don't go so apace4 ,cardinals are not so cheap4 ,cardinals have so much state and stiffness1 said ,miss ,bolton3 ,i hear they never walk without two servants behind them2 and they always leave the room directly dancing begins4 ,well1 ,i think ,oxford must be just cut out for cardinals1 said ,miss ,charlotte2 can anything be duller than the ,president's parties8 ,i can fancy ,dr4 ,bone a cardinal1 as he walks round the parks4 ,oh1 it's the genius of the ,catholic ,church1 said ,white2 you will understand it better in time4 ,no one is his own master2 even the ,pope cannot do as he will2 he dines by himself1 and speaks by precedent4 ,of course he does1 said ,charlotte1 for he is infallible4 ,nay1 if he makes mistakes in the functions1 continued ,white1 he is obliged to write them down and confess them1 lest they should be drawn into precedents4 ,and he is obliged1 during a function1 to obey the master of ceremonies1 against his own judgment1 said ,willis4 ,didn't you say the ,pope confessed1 ,mr4 ,white8 asked ,miss ,bolton2 it has always puzzled me whether the ,pope was obliged to confess like another man4 ,oh1 certainly1 answered ,white1 every one confesses4 ,well1 said ,charlotte1 ,i can't fancy ,mr4 ,hurst of ,st4 ,peter's1 who comes here to sing glees1 confessing1 or some of the grave heads of houses1 who bow so stiffly4 ,they will all have to confess1 said ,white4 ,all8 asked ,miss ,bolton2 you don't mean converts confess8 ,i thought it was only old ,catholics4 ,there was a little pause4 ,and what will the heads of houses be8 asked ,miss ,charlotte4 ,abbots or superiors1 answered ,white2 they will bear crosses2 and when they say ,mass1 there will be a lighted candle in addition4 ,what a good portly abbot the ,vice-,chancellor will make6 said ,miss ,bolton4 ,oh1 no2 he's too short for an abbot1 said her sister2 but you have left out the ,chancellor himself3 you seem to have provided for every one else2 what will become of him8 ,the ,chancellor is my difficulty1 said ,white gravely4 ,make him a ,knight-,templar1 said ,willis4 ,the ,duke's a queer hand1 said ,white1 still thoughtfully3 there's no knowing what he'll come to4 ,a ,knight-,templar--yes2 ,malta is now ,english property2 he might revive the order4 ,the ladies both laughed4 ,but you have not completed your plan1 ,mr4 ,white1 said ,miss ,bolton3 the heads of houses have got wives2 how can they become monks8 ,oh1 the wives will go into convents1 said ,white3 ,willis and ,i have been making inquiries in the ,high ,street1 and they are most satisfactory4 ,some of the houses there were once university-halls and inns1 and will easily turn back into convents3 all that will be wanted is grating to the windows4 ,have you any notion what order they ought to join8 said ,miss ,charlotte4 ,that depends on themselves1 said ,white3 no compulsion whatever must be put on them4 ,they are the judges4 ,but it would be useful to have two convents--one of an active order1 and one contemplative3 ,ursuline for instance1 and ,carmelite of ,st4 ,theresa's reform4 ,hitherto their conversation had been on the verge of jest and earnest2 now it took a more pensive tone4 ,the nuns of ,st4 ,theresa are very strict1 ,i believe1 ,mr4 ,white1 said ,miss ,bolton4 ,yes1 he made reply2 ,i have fears for the ,mrs4 ,wardens and ,mrs4 ,principals who at their age undertake it4 ,they had got home1 and ,white politely rang the bell4 ,younger persons1 said he tenderly1 are too delicate for such a sacrifice4 ,louisa was silent2 presently she said1 ,and what will you be1 ,mr4 ,white8 ,i know not1 he answered2 ,i have thought of the ,cistercians2 they never speak4 ,oh1 the dear ,cistercians6 she said2 ,st4 ,bernard wasn't it8--sweet1 heavenly man1 and so young6 ,i have seen his picture3 such eyes6 ,white was a good-looking man4 ,the nun and the monk looked at each other very respectfully1 and bowed2 the other pair went through a similar ceremony2 then it was performed diagonally4 ,the two ladies entered their home2 the two gentlemen retired4 ,we must follow the former upstairs4 ,when they entered the drawing-room they found their mother sitting at the window in her bonnet and shawl1 dipping into a chance volume in that unsettled state which implies that a person is occupied1 if it may be so called1 in waiting1 more than in anything else4 ,my dear children1 she said as they entered1 where have you been8 the bells have stopped a good quarter of an hour3 ,i fear we must give up going to church this morning4 ,impossible1 dear mamma1 answered ,miss ,bolton2 we went out punctually at half-past nine2 we did not stop two minutes at your worsted-shop2 and here we are back again4 ,the only thing we did besides1 said ,charlotte1 was to look in at ,st4 ,james's1 as the door was open1 to say a word or two to poor old ,wiggins4 ,mr4 ,white was there1 and his friend ,mr4 ,willis2 and they saw us home4 ,oh1 ,i understand1 answered ,mrs4 ,bolton2 that is the way when young gentlemen and ladies get together3 but at any rate we are late for church4 ,oh1 no1 said ,charlotte1 let us set out directly1 we shall get in by the first lesson4 ,my dear child1 how can you propose such a thing8 said her mother3 ,i would not do so for any consideration2 it is so very disgraceful4 ,better not go at all4 ,oh1 dearest mamma1 said the elder sister1 this certainly is a prejudice4 ,why always come in at one time8 there is something so formal in people coming in all at once1 and waiting for each other4 ,it is surely more reasonable to come in when you can3 so many things may hinder persons4 ,well1 my dear ,louisa1 said her mother1 ,i like the old way4 ,it used always to be said to us1 ,be in your seats before ',when the wicked man1' and at latest before the ',dearly ,beloved4' ,that's the good old-fashioned way4 ,and ,mr4 ,jones and ,mr4 ,pearson used always to sit at least five minutes in the desk to give us some law1 and used to look round before beginning2 and ,mr4 ,jones used frequently to preach against late comers4 ,i can't argue1 but it seems to me reasonable that good ,christians should hear the whole service4 ,they might as well go out before it's over4 ,well1 but1 mamma1 said ,charlotte1 so it is abroad3 they come in and go out when they please4 ,it's so devotional4 ,my dear girl1 said ,mrs4 ,bolton1 ,i am too old to understand all this2 it's beyond me4 ,i suppose ,mr4 ,white has been saying all this to you4 ,he's a good young man1 very amiable and attentive4 ,i have nothing to say against him1 except that he is young1 and he'll change his view of things when he gets older4 ,while we talk1 time's going1 said ,louisa2 is it quite impossible we should still go to church8 ,my dear ,louisa1 ,i would not walk up the aisle for the world2 positively ,i should sink into the earth3 such a bad example6 ,how can you dream of such a thing8 ,then ,i suppose nothing's to be done1 said ,louisa1 taking off her bonnet2 but really it is very sad to make worship so cold and formal a thing4 ,twice as many people would go to church if they might be late4 ,well1 my dear1 all things are changed now3 in my younger days ,catholics were the formal people1 and we were the devotional2 now it's just the reverse4 ,but isn't it so1 dear mamma8 said ,charlotte1 isn't it something much more beautiful1 this continued concourse1 flowing and ebbing1 changing yet full1 than a way of praying which is as wooden as the reading-desk8--it's so free and natural4 ,free and easy1 ,i think1 said her mother2 for shame1 ,charlotte6 how can you speak against the beautiful ,church ,service2 you pain me4 ,i don't1 answered ,charlotte2 it's a mere puritanical custom1 which is no more part of our ,church than the pews are4 ,common ,prayer is offered to all who can come1 said ,louisa2 ,church should be a privilege1 not a mere duty4 ,well1 my dear love1 this is more than ,i can follow4 ,there was young ,george ,ashton--he always left before the sermon2 and when taxed with it1 he said he could not bear an heretical preacher2 a boy of eighteen6 ,but1 dearest mamma1 said ,charlotte1 what is to be done when a preacher is heretical8 what else can be done8--it's so distressing to a ,catholic mind4 ,catholic1 ,catholic6 cried ,mrs4 ,bolton1 rather vexed2 give me good old ,george the ,third and the ,protestant religion4 ,those were the times6 ,everything went on quietly then4 ,we had no disputes or divisions2 no differences in families4 ,but now it is all otherwise4 ,my head is turned1 ,i declare2 ,i hear so many strange1 out-of-the-way things4 ,the young ladies did not answer2 one looked out of the window1 the other prepared to leave the room4 ,well it's a disappointment to us all1 said their mother2 you first hindered me going1 then ,i have hindered you4 ,but ,i suspect1 dear ,louisa1 mine is the greater disappointment of the two4 ,louisa turned round from the window4 ,i value the ,prayer ,book as you cannot do1 my love1 she continued2 for ,i have known what it is to one in deep affliction4 ,may it be long1 dearest girls1 before you know it in a similar way2 but if affliction comes on you1 depend on it1 all these new fancies and fashions will vanish from you like the wind1 and the good old ,prayer ,book alone will stand you in any stead4 ,they were both touched4 ,come1 my dears2 ,i have spoken too seriously1 she added4 ,go and take your things off1 and come and let us have some quiet work before luncheon-time4 ,,chapter ,,ix4 ,some persons fidget at intellectual difficulties1 and1 successfully or not1 are ever trying to solve them4 ,charles was of a different cast of temper2 a new idea was not lost on him1 but it did not distress him1 if it was obscure1 or conflicted with his habitual view of things4 ,he let it work its way and find its place1 and shape itself within him1 by the slow spontaneous action of the mind4 ,yet perplexity is not in itself a pleasant state2 and he would have hastened its removal1 had he been able4 ,by means of conversations such as those which we have related 7to which many others might be added1 which we spare the reader's patience71 and from the diversities of view which he met with in the ,university1 he had now come1 in the course of a year1 to one or two conclusions1 not very novel1 but very important3--first1 that there are a great many opinions in the world on the most momentous subjects2 secondly1 that all are not equally true2 thirdly1 that it is a duty to hold true opinions2 and1 fourthly1 that it is uncommonly difficult to get hold of them4 ,he had been accustomed1 as we have seen1 to fix his mind on persons1 not on opinions1 and to determine to like what was good in every one2 but he had now come to perceive that1 to say the least1 it was not respectable in any great question to hold false opinions4 ,it did not matter that such false opinions were sincerely held1--he could not feel that respect for a person who held what ,sheffield called a sham1 with which he regarded him who held a reality4 ,white and ,bateman were cases in point2 they were very good fellows1 but he could not endure their unreal way of talking1 though they did not feel it to be unreal themselves4 ,in like manner1 if the ,roman ,catholic system was untrue1 so far was plain 7putting aside higher considerations71 that a person who believed in the power of saints1 and prayed to them1 was an actor in a great sham1 let him be as sincere as he would4 ,he mistook words for things1 and so far forth1 he could not respect him more than he respected ,white or ,bateman4 ,and so of a ,unitarian2 if he believed the power of unaided human nature to be what it was not2 if by birth man is fallen1 and he thought him upright1 he was holding an absurdity4 ,he might redeem and cover this blot by a thousand excellences1 but a blot it would remain2 just as we should feel a handsome man disfigured by the loss of an eye or a hand4 ,and so1 again1 if a professing ,christian made the ,almighty a being of simple benevolence1 and ,he was1 on the contrary1 what the ,church of ,england teaches1 a ,god who punishes for the sake of justice1 such a person was making an idol or unreality the object of his religion1 and 7apart from more serious thoughts about him7 so far he could not respect him4 ,thus the principle of dogmatism gradually became an essential element in ,charles's religious views4 ,gradually1 and imperceptibly to himself2 for the thoughts which we have been tracing only came on him at spare times1 and were taken up at intervals from the point at which they were laid down4 ,his lectures and other duties of the place1 his friends and recreations1 were the staple of the day2 but there was this undercurrent ever in motion1 and sounding in his mental ear as soon as other sounds were hushed4 ,as he dressed in the morning1 as he sat under the beeches of his college-garden1 when he strolled into the meadow1 when he went into the town to pay a bill or make a call1 when he threw himself on his sofa after shutting his oak at night1 thoughts cognate with those which have been described were busy within him4 ,discussions1 however1 and inquiries1 as far as ,oxford could afford matter for them1 were for a while drawing to an end2 for ,trinity ,sunday was now past1 and the ,commemoration was close at hand4 ,on the ,sunday before it1 the ,university sermon happened to be preached by a distinguished person1 whom that solemnity brought up to ,oxford2 no less a man than the ,very ,rev4 ,dr4 ,brownside1 the new ,dean of ,nottingham1 some time ,huntingdonian ,professor of ,divinity1 and one of the acutest1 if not soundest academical thinkers of the day4 ,he was a little1 prim1 smirking1 be-spectacled man1 bald in front1 with curly black hair behind1 somewhat pompous in his manner1 with a clear musical utterance1 which enabled one to listen to him without effort4 ,as a divine1 he seemed never to have had any difficulty on any subject2 he was so clear or so shallow1 that he saw to the bottom of all his thoughts3 or1 since ,dr4 ,johnson tells us that all shallows are clear1 we may perhaps distinguish him by both epithets4 ,revelation to him1 instead of being the abyss of ,god's counsels1 with its dim outlines and broad shadows1 was a flat1 sunny plain1 laid out with straight macadamised roads4 ,not1 of course1 that he denied the ,divine incomprehensibility itself1 with certain heretics of old2 but he maintained that in ,revelation all that was mysterious had been left out1 and nothing given us but what was practical1 and directly concerned us4 ,it was1 moreover1 to him a marvel1 that every one did not agree with him in taking this simple1 natural view1 which he thought almost self-evident2 and he attributed the phenomenon1 which was by no means uncommon1 to some want of clearness of head1 or twist of mind1 as the case might be4 ,he was a popular preacher2 that is1 though he had few followers1 he had numerous hearers2 and on this occasion the church was overflowing with the young men of the place4 ,he began his sermon by observing1 that it was not a little remarkable that there were so few good reasoners in the world1 considering that the discursive faculty was one of the characteristics of man's nature1 as contrasted with brute animals4 ,it had indeed been said that brutes reasoned2 but this was an analogical sense of the word reason1 and an instance of that very ambiguity of language1 or confusion of thought1 on which he was animadverting4 ,in like manner1 we say that the reason why the wind blows is1 that there is a change of temperature in the atmosphere2 and the reason why the bells ring is1 because the ringers pull them2 but who would say that the wind reasons or that bells reason8 ,there was1 he believed1 no well-ascertained fact 7an emphasis on the word fact7 of brutes reasoning4 ,it had been said1 indeed1 that that sagacious animal1 the dog1 if1 in tracking his master1 he met three ways1 after smelling the two1 boldly pursued the third without any such previous investigation2 which1 if true1 would be an instance of a disjunctive hypothetical syllogism4 ,also ,dugald ,stewart spoke of the case of a monkey cracking nuts behind a door1 which1 not being a strict imitation of anything which he could have actually seen1 implied an operation of abstraction1 by which the clever brute had first ascended to the general notion of nut-crackers1 which perhaps he had seen in a particular instance1 in silver or in steel1 at his master's table1 and then descending1 had embodied it1 thus obtained1 in the shape of an expedient of his own devising4 ,this was what had been said3 however1 he might assume on the present occasion1 that the faculty of reasoning was characteristic of the human species2 and1 this being the case1 it certainly was remarkable that so few persons reasoned well4 ,after this introduction1 he proceeded to attribute to this defect the number of religious differences in the world4 ,he said that the most celebrated questions in religion were but verbal ones2 that the disputants did not know their own meaning1 or that of their opponents2 and that a spice of good logic would have put an end to dissensions1 which had troubled the world for centuries1--would have prevented many a bloody war1 many a fierce anathema1 many a savage execution1 and many a ponderous folio4 ,he went on to imply that in fact there was no truth or falsehood in the received dogmas in theology2 that they were modes1 neither good nor bad in themselves1 but personal1 national1 or periodic1 in which the intellect reasoned upon the great truths of religion2 that the fault lay1 not in holding them1 but in insisting on them1 which was like insisting on a ,hindoo dressing like a ,fin1 or a regiment of dragoons using the boomarang4 ,he proceeded to observe1 that from what he had said1 it was plain in what point of view the ,anglican formularies were to be regarded2 viz4 they were our mode of expressing everlasting truths1 which might be as well expressed in other ways1 as any correct thinker would be able to see4 ,nothing1 then1 was to be altered in them2 they were to be retained in their integrity2 but it was ever to be borne in mind that they were ,anglican theology1 not theology in the abstract2 and that1 though the ,athanasian ,creed was good for us1 it did not follow that it was good for our neighbours2 rather1 that what seemed the very reverse might suit others better1 might be their mode of expressing the same truths4 ,he concluded with one word in favour of ,nestorius1 two for ,abelard1 three for ,luther1 that great mind1 as he worded it1 who saw that churches1 creeds1 rites1 persons1 were nought in religion1 and that the inward spirit1 faith1 as he himself expressed it1 was all in all2 and with a hint that nothing would go well in the ,university till this great principle was so far admitted1 as to lead its members--not1 indeed1 to give up their own distinctive formularies1 no--but to consider the direct contradictories of them equally pleasing to the divine ,author of ,christianity4 ,charles did not understand the full drift of the sermon2 but he understood enough to make him feel that it was different from any sermon he had heard in his life4 ,he more than doubted1 whether1 if his good father had heard it1 he would not have made it an exception to his favourite dictum4 ,he came away marvelling with himself what the preacher could mean1 and whether he had misunderstood him4 ,did he mean that ,unitarians were only bad reasoners1 and might be as good ,christians as orthodox believers8 ,he could mean nothing else4 ,but what if1 after all1 he was right8 ,he indulged the thought awhile4 ,then every one is what ,sheffield calls a sham1 more or less2 and there was no reason for being annoyed at any one4 ,then ,i was right originally in wishing to take every one for what he was4 ,let me think2 every one a sham 444 shams are respectable1 or rather no one is respectable4 ,we can't do without some outward form of belief2 one is not truer than another2 that is1 all are equally true4444 ,all are true4444 ,that is the better way of taking it2 none are shams1 all are true4444 ,all are true6 impossible6 one as true as another6 why then it is as true that our ,lord is a mere man1 as that ,he is ,god4 ,he could not possibly mean this2 what did he mean8 ,so ,charles went on1 painfully perplexed1 yet out of this perplexity two convictions came upon him1 the first of them painful too2 that he could not take for gospel everything that was said1 even by authorities of the place and divines of name2 and next1 that his former amiable feeling of taking every one for what he was1 was a dangerous one1 leading with little difficulty to a sufferance of every sort of belief1 and legitimately terminating in the sentiment expressed in ,pope's ,universal ,prayer1 which his father had always held up to him as a pattern specimen of shallow philosophism3-- ,father of all1 in every age1 ,in every clime adored1 ,by saint1 by savage1 and by sage1 ,jehovah1 ,jove1 or ,lord4 ,,chapter ,x4 ,charles went up this term for his first examination1 and this caused him to remain in ,oxford some days after the undergraduate part of his college had left for the ,long ,vacation4 ,thus he came across ,mr4 ,vincent1 one of the junior tutors1 who was kind enough to ask him to dine in ,common-room on ,sunday1 and on several mornings made him take some turns with him up and down the ,fellows' walk in the college garden4 ,a few years make a great difference in the standing of men at ,oxford1 and this made ,mr4 ,vincent what is called a don in the eyes of persons who were very little younger than himself4 ,besides1 ,vincent looked much older than he really was2 he was of a full habit1 with a florid complexion and large blue eyes1 and showed a deal of linen at his bosom1 and full wristbands at his cuffs4 ,though a clever man1 and a hard reader and worker1 and a capital tutor1 he was a good feeder as well2 he ate and drank1 he walked and rode1 with as much heart as he lectured in ,aristotle1 or crammed in ,greek plays4 ,what is stranger still1 with all this he was something of a valetudinarian4 ,he had come off from school on a foundation fellowship1 and had the reputation both at school and in the ,university of being a first-rate scholar4 ,he was a strict disciplinarian in his way1 had the undergraduates under his thumb1 and having some bonhomie in his composition1 was regarded by them with mingled feelings of fear and good will4 ,they laughed at him1 but carefully obeyed him4 ,besides this he preached a good sermon1 read prayers with unction1 and in his conversation sometimes had even a touch of evangelical spirituality4 ,the young men even declared they could tell how much port he had taken in ,common-room by the devoutness of his responses in evening-chapel2 and it was on record that once1 during the ,confession1 he had1 in the heat of his contrition1 shoved over the huge velvet cushion in which his elbows were imbedded upon the heads of the gentlemen commoners who sat under him4 ,he had just so much originality of mind as gave him an excuse for being his own party in religion1 or what he himself called being no party man2 and just so little that he was ever mistaking shams for truths1 and converting pompous nothings into oracles4 ,he was oracular in his manner1 denounced parties and party-spirit1 and thought to avoid the one and the other by eschewing all persons1 and holding all opinions4 ,he had a great idea of the via media being the truth2 and to obtain it1 thought it enough to flee from extremes1 without having any very definite mean to flee to4 ,he had not clearness of intellect enough to pursue a truth to its limits1 nor boldness enough to hold it in its simplicity2 but he was always saying things and unsaying them1 balancing his thoughts in impossible attitudes1 and guarding his words by unintelligible limitations4 ,as to the men and opinions of the day and place1 he would in the main have agreed with them1 had he let himself alone2 but he was determined to have an intellect of his own1 and this put him to great shifts when he would distinguish himself from them4 ,had he been older than they1 he would have talked of young heads1 hot heads1 and the like2 but since they were grave and cool men1 and outran him by fourteen or fifteen years1 he found nothing better than to shake his head1 mutter against party-spirit1 refuse to read their books1 lest he should be obliged to agree with them1 and make a boast of avoiding their society4 ,at the present moment he was on the point of starting for a continental tour to recruit himself after the labours of an ,oxford year2 meanwhile he was keeping hall and chapel open for such men as were waiting either for ,responsions1 or for their battel money2 and he took notice of ,reding as a clever1 modest youth of whom something might be made4 ,under this view of him1 he had1 among other civilities1 asked him to breakfast a day or two before he went down4 ,a tutor's breakfast is always a difficult affair both for host and guests2 and ,vincent piqued himself on the tact with which he managed it4 ,the material part was easy enough2 there were rolls1 toast1 muffins1 eggs1 cold lamb1 strawberries1 on the table2 and in due season the college-servant brought in mutton-cutlets and broiled ham2 and every one ate to his heart's1 or rather his appetite's1 content4 ,it was a more arduous undertaking to provide the running accompaniment of thought1 or at least of words1 without which the breakfast would have been little better than a pig-trough4 ,the conversation or rather mono-polylogue1 as some great performer calls it1 ran in somewhat of the following strain3 ,mr4 ,bruton1 said ,vincent1 what news from ,staffordshire8 ,are the potteries pretty quiet now8 ,our potteries grow in importance4 ,you need not look at the cup and saucer before you1 ,mr4 ,catley2 those came from ,derbyshire4 ,but you find ,english crockery everywhere on the ,continent4 ,i myself found half a willow-pattern saucer in the crater of ,vesuvius4 ,mr4 ,sikes1 ,i think you have been in ,italy8 ,no1 sir1 said ,sikes2 ,i was near going2 my family set off a fortnight ago1 but ,i was kept here by these confounded smalls4 ,your ,responsiones1 answered the tutor in a tone of rebuke2 an unfortunate delay for you1 for it is to be an unusually fine season1 if the meteorologists of the sister ,university are right in their predictions4 ,who is in the ,responsion schools1 ,mr4 ,sikes8 ,butson of ,leicester is the strict one1 sir2 he plucks one man in three4 ,he plucked last week ,patch of ,st4 ,george's1 and ,patch has taken his oath he'll shoot him2 and ,butson has walked about ever since with a bulldog4 ,these are reports1 ,mr4 ,sikes1 which often flit about1 but must not be trusted4 ,mr4 ,patch could not have given a better proof that his rejection was deserved4 ,a pause--during which poor ,vincent hastily gobbled up two or three mouthfuls of bread and butter1 the knives and forks meanwhile clinking upon his guests' plates4 ,sir1 is it true1 began one of his guests at length1 that the old ,principal is going to be married8 ,these are matters1 ,mr4 ,atkins1 answered ,vincent1 which we should always inquire about at the fountain-head2 antiquam exquirite matrem1 or rather patrem2 ha1 ha6 ,take some more tea1 ,mr4 ,reding2 it won't hurt your nerves4 ,i am rather choice in my tea2 this comes overland through ,russia2 the sea-air destroys the flavour of our common tea4 ,talking of air1 ,mr4 ,tenby1 ,i think you are a chemist4 ,have you paid attention to the recent experiments on the composition and resolution of air8 ,not8 ,i am surprised at it2 they are well worth your most serious consideration4 ,it is now pretty well ascertained that inhaling gases is the cure for all kinds of diseases4 ,people are beginning to talk of the gas-cure1 as they did of the water-cure4 ,the great foreign chemist1 ,professor ,scaramouch1 has the credit of the discovery4 ,the effects are astounding1 quite astounding2 and there are several remarkable coincidences4 ,you know medicines are always unpleasant1 and so these gases are always fetid4 ,the ,professor cures by stenches1 and has brought his science to such perfection that he actually can classify them4 ,there are six elementary stenches1 and these spread into a variety of subdivisions8 ,what do you say1 ,mr4 ,reding8 ,distinctive8 ,yes1 there is something very distinctive in smells4 ,but what is most gratifying of all1 and is the great coincidence ,i spoke of1 his ultimate resolution of fetid gases assigns to them the very same precise number as is given to existing complaints in the latest treatises on pathology4 ,each complaint has its gas4 ,and1 what is still more singular1 an exhausted receiver is a specific for certain desperate disorders4 ,for instance1 it has effected several cures of hydrophobia4 ,mr4 ,seaton1 he continued to a freshman1 who1 his breakfast finished1 was sitting uncomfortably on his chair1 looking down and playing with his knife--,mr4 ,seaton1 you are looking at that picture--it was almost behind ,seaton's back--,i don't wonder at it2 it was given me by my good old mother1 who died many years ago4 ,it represents some beautiful ,italian scenery4 ,vincent stood up1 and his party after him1 and all crowded round the picture4 ,i prefer the green of ,england1 said ,reding4 ,england has not that brilliant variety of colour1 said ,tenby4 ,but there is something so soothing in green4 ,you know1 of course1 ,mr4 ,reding1 said the tutor1 that there is plenty of green in ,italy1 and in winter even more than in ,england2 only there are other colours too4 ,but ,i can't help fancying1 said ,charles1 that that mixture of colours takes off from it the repose of ,english scenery4 ,the repose1 for instance1 said ,tenby1 of ,binsey ,common1 or ,port ,meadow in winter4 ,say in summer1 said ,reding2 if you choose place1 ,i will choose time4 ,i think the ,university goes down just when ,oxford begins to be most beautiful4 ,the walks and meadows are so fragrant and bright now1 the hay half carried1 and the short new grass appearing4 ,reding ought to live here all through the ,long1 said ,tenby3 does any one live through the ,vacation1 sir1 in ,oxford8 ,do you mean they die before the end of it1 ,mr4 ,tenby8 asked ,vincent4 ,it can't be denied1 he continued1 that many1 like ,mr4 ,reding1 think it a most pleasant time4 ,i am fond of ,oxford2 but it is not my habitat out of term-time4 ,well1 ,i think ,i should like to make it so1 said ,charles1 but1 ,i suppose1 undergraduates are not allowed4 ,mr4 ,vincent answered with more than necessary gravity1 ,no2 it rested with the ,principal2 but he conceived that he would not consent to it4 ,vincent added that certainly there were parties who remained in ,oxford through the ,long ,vacation4 ,it was said mysteriously4 ,charles answered that1 if it was against college rules1 there was no help for it2 else1 were he reading for his degree1 he should like nothing better than to pass the ,long ,vacation in ,oxford1 if he might judge by the pleasantness of the last ten days4 ,that is a compliment1 ,mr4 ,reding1 to your company1 said ,vincent4 ,at this moment the door opened1 and in came the manciple with the dinner paper1 which ,mr4 ,vincent had formally to run his eye over4 ,watkins1 he said1 giving it back to him1 ,i almost think to-day is one of the ,fasts of the ,church4 ,go and look1 ,watkins1 and bring me word4 ,the astonished manciple1 who had never been sent on such a commission in his whole career before1 hastened out of the room1 to task his wits how best to fulfil it4 ,the question seemed to strike the company as forcibly1 for there was a sudden silence1 which was succeeded by a shuffling of feet and a leave-taking2 as if1 though they had secured their ham and mutton at breakfast1 they did not like to risk their dinner4 ,watkins returned sooner than could have been expected4 ,he said that ,mr4 ,vincent was right2 to-day he had found was the feast of the ,apostles4 ,the ,vigil of ,st4 ,peter1 you mean1 ,watkins1 said ,mr4 ,vincent2 ,i thought so4 ,then let us have a plain beefsteak and a saddle of mutton2 no ,portugal onions1 ,watkins1 or currant-jelly2 and some simple pudding1 ,charlotte pudding1 ,watkins--that will do4 ,watkins vanished4 ,by this time1 ,charles found himself alone with the college authority2 who began to speak to him in a more confidential tone4 ,mr4 ,reding1 said he1 ,i did not like to question you before the others1 but ,i conceive you had no particular meaning in your praise of ,oxford in the ,long ,vacation8 ,in the mouths of some it would have been suspicious4 ,charles was all surprise4 ,to tell the truth1 ,mr4 ,reding1 as things stand1 he proceeded1 it is often a mark of party1 this residence in the ,vacation2 though1 of course1 there is nothing in the thing itself but what is perfectly natural and right4 ,charles was all attention4 ,my good sir1 the tutor proceeded1 avoid parties2 be sure to avoid party4 ,you are young in your career among us4 ,i always feel anxious about young men of talent2 there is the greatest danger of the talent of the ,university being absorbed in party4 ,reding expressed a hope that nothing he had done had given cause to his tutor's remark4 ,no1 replied ,mr4 ,vincent1 no2 yet with some slight hesitation2 no1 ,i don't know that it has4 ,but ,i have thought some of your remarks and questions at lecture were like a person pushing things too far1 and wishing to form a system4 ,charles was so much taken aback by the charge1 that the unexplained mystery of the ,long ,vacation went out of his head4 ,he said he was very sorry1 and obliged2 and tried to recollect what he could have said to give ground to ,mr4 ,vincent's remark4 ,not being able at the moment to recollect1 he went on4 ,i assure you1 sir1 ,i know so little of parties in the place1 that ,i hardly know their leaders4 ,i have heard persons mentioned1 but1 if ,i tried1 ,i think ,i should1 in some cases1 mismatch names and opinions4 ,i believe it1 said ,vincent2 but you are young2 ,i am cautioning you against tendencies4 ,you may suddenly find yourself absorbed before you know where you are4 ,charles thought this a good opportunity of asking some questions in detail1 about points which puzzled him4 ,he asked whether ,dr4 ,brownside was considered a safe divine to follow4 ,i hold1 d'ye see1 answered ,vincent1 that all errors are counterfeits of truth4 ,clever men say true things1 ,mr4 ,reding1 true in their substance1 but1 sinking his voice to a whisper1 they go too far4 ,it might even be shown that all sects are in one sense but parts of the ,catholic ,church4 ,i don't say true parts1 that is a further question2 but they embody great principles4 ,the ,quakers represent the principle of simplicity and evangelical poverty2 they even have a dress of their own1 like monks4 ,the ,independents represent the rights of the laity2 the ,wesleyans cherish the devotional principle2 the ,irvingites1 the symbolical and mystical2 the ,high ,church party1 the principle of obedience2 the ,liberals are the guardians of reason4 ,no party1 then1 ,i conceive1 is entirely right or entirely wrong4 ,as to ,dr4 ,brownside1 there certainly have been various opinions entertained about his divinity2 still1 he is an able man1 and ,i think you will gain good1 gain good from his teaching4 ,but mind1 ,i don't recommend him2 yet ,i respect him1 and ,i consider that he says many things very well worth your attention4 ,i would advise you1 then1 to accept the good which his sermons offer1 without committing yourself to the bad4 ,that1 depend upon it1 ,mr4 ,reding1 is the golden though the obvious rule in these matters4 ,charles said1 in answer1 that ,mr4 ,vincent was overrating his powers2 that he had to learn before he could judge2 and that he wished very much to know whether ,vincent could recommend him any book1 in which he might see at once what the true ,church-of-,england doctrine was on a number of points which perplexed him4 ,mr4 ,vincent replied1 he must be on his guard against dissipating his mind with such reading1 at a time when his ,university duties had a definite claim upon him4 ,he ought to avoid all controversies of the day1 all authors of the day4 ,he would advise him to read no living authors4 ,read dead authors alone1 he continued2 dead authors are safe4 ,our great divines1 and he stood upright1 were models2 'there were giants on the earth in those days1' as ,king ,george the ,third had once said of them to ,dr4 ,johnson4 ,they had that depth1 and power1 and gravity1 and fulness1 and erudition2 and they were so racy1 always racy1 and what might be called ,english4 ,they had that richness1 too1 such a mine of thought1 such a world of opinion1 such activity of mind1 such inexhaustible resource1 such diversity1 too4 ,then they were so eloquent2 the majestic ,hooker1 the imaginative ,taylor1 the brilliant ,hall1 the learning of ,barrow1 the strong sense of ,south1 the keen logic of ,chillingworth1 good1 honest old ,burnet1 etc41 etc4 ,there did not seem much reason why he should stop at one moment more than another2 at length1 however1 he did stop4 ,it was prose1 but it was pleasant prose to ,charles2 he knew just enough about these writers to feel interested in hearing them talked about1 and to him ,vincent seemed to be saying a good deal1 when in fact he was saying very little4 ,when he stopped1 ,charles said he believed that there were persons in the ,university who were promoting the study of these authors4 ,mr4 ,vincent looked grave4 ,it is true1 he said2 but1 my young friend1 ,i have already hinted to you that indifferent things are perverted to the purposes of party4 ,at this moment the names of some of our greatest divines are little better than a watchword by which the opinions of living individuals are signified4 ,which opinions1 ,i suppose1 ,charles answered1 are not to be found in those authors4 ,i'll not say that1 said ,mr4 ,vincent4 ,i have the greatest respect for the individuals in question1 and ,i am not denying that they have done good to our ,church by drawing attention in this lax day to the old ,church-of-,england divinity4 ,but it is one thing to agree with these gentlemen2 another1 laying his hand on ,charles's shoulder1 another to belong to their party4 ,do not make man your master2 get good from all2 think well of all persons1 and you will be a wise man4 ,reding inquired1 with some timidity1 if this was not something like what ,dr4 ,brownside had said in the ,university pulpit2 but perhaps the latter advocated a toleration of opinions in a different sense8 ,mr4 ,vincent answered rather shortly1 that he had not heard ,dr4 ,brownside's sermon2 but1 for himself1 he had been speaking only of persons in our own communion4 ,our ,church1 he said1 admitted of great liberty of thought within her pale4 ,even our greatest divines differed from each other in many respects2 nay1 ,bishop ,taylor differed from himself4 ,it was a great principle in the ,english ,church4 ,her true children agree to differ4 ,in truth1 he continued1 there is that robust1 masculine1 noble independence in the ,english mind1 which refuses to be tied down to artificial shapes1 but is like1 ,i will say1 some great and beautiful production of nature1--a tree1 which is rich in foliage and fantastic in limb1 no sickly denizen of the hothouse1 or helpless dependent of the garden wall1 but in careless magnificence sheds its fruits upon the free earth1 for the bird of the air and the beast of the field1 and all sorts of cattle1 to eat thereof and rejoice4 ,when ,charles came away1 he tried to think what he had gained by his conversation with ,mr4 ,vincent2 not exactly what he had wanted1 some practical rules to guide his mind and keep him steady2 but still some useful hints4 ,he had already been averse to parties1 and offended at what he saw of individuals attached to them4 ,vincent had confirmed him in his resolution to keep aloof from them1 and to attend to his duties in the place4 ,he felt pleased to have had this talk with him2 but what could he mean by suspecting a tendency in himself to push things too far1 and thereby to implicate himself in party8 ,he was obliged to resign himself to ignorance on the subject1 and to be content with keeping a watch over himself in future4 ,,chapter ,,xi4 ,no opportunity has occurred of informing the reader that1 during the last week or two1 ,charles had accidentally been a good deal thrown across ,willis1 the umbra of ,white at ,bateman's breakfast-party4 ,he had liked his looks on that occasion1 when he was dumb2 he did not like him so much when he heard him talk2 still he could not help being interested in him1 and not the least for this reason1 that ,willis seemed to have taken a great fancy to himself4 ,he certainly did court ,charles1 and seemed anxious to stand well with him4 ,charles1 however1 did not like his mode of talking better than he did ,white's2 and when he first saw his rooms1 there was much in them which shocked both his good sense and his religious principles4 ,a large ivory crucifix1 in a glass case1 was a conspicuous ornament between the windows2 an engraving1 representing the ,blessed ,trinity1 as is usual in ,catholic countries1 hung over the fireplace1 and a picture of the ,madonna and ,st4 ,dominic was opposite to it4 ,on the mantelpiece were a rosary1 a thuribulum1 and other tokens of ,catholicism1 of which ,charles did not know the uses2 a missal1 ritual1 and some ,catholic tracts1 lay on the table2 and1 as he happened to come on ,willis unexpectedly1 he found him sitting in a vestment more like a cassock than a reading-gown1 and engaged upon some portion of the ,breviary4 ,virgil and ,sophocles1 ,herodotus and ,cicero seemed1 as impure pagans1 to have hid themselves in corners1 or flitted away1 before the awful presence of the ,ancient ,church4 ,charles had taken upon himself to protest against some of these singularities1 but without success4 ,on the evening before his departure for the country he had occasion to go towards ,folly ,bridge to pay a bill1 when he was startled1 as he passed what he had ever taken for a dissenting chapel1 to see ,willis come out of it4 ,he hardly could believe he saw correctly2 he knew1 indeed1 that ,willis had been detained in ,oxford1 as he had been himself2 but what had compelled him to a visit so extraordinary as that which he had just made1 ,charles had no means of determining4 ,willis6 he cried1 as he stopped4 ,willis coloured1 and tried to look easy4 ,do come a few paces with me1 said ,charles4 ,what in the world has taken you there8 ,is it not a dissenting meeting8 ,dissenting meeting6 cried ,willis1 surprised and offended in his turn3 what on earth could make you think ,i would go to a dissenting meeting8 ,well1 ,i beg your pardon1 said ,charles2 ,i recollect now3 it's the exhibition room4 ,however1 once it was a chapel3 that's my mistake4 ,isn't it what is called 'the ,old ,methodist ,chapel8' ,i never was there2 they showed there the ,dio-astro-doxon1 so ,i think they called it4 ,charles talked on1 to cover his own mistake1 for he was ashamed of the charge he had made4 ,willis did not know whether he was in jest or earnest4 ,reding1 he said1 don't go on2 you offend me4 ,well1 what is it8 said ,charles4 ,you know well enough1 answered ,willis1 though you wish to annoy me4 ,i don't indeed4 ,it's the ,catholic church1 said ,willis4 ,reding was silent a moment2 then he said1 ,well1 ,i don't think you have mended the matter2 it is a dissenting meeting1 call it what you will1 though not the kind of one ,i meant4 ,what can you mean8 asked ,willis4 ,rather1 what mean you by going to such places8 retorted ,charles2 why1 it is against your oath4 ,my oath6 what oath8 ,there's not an oath now2 but there was an oath till lately1 said ,reding2 and we still make a very solemn engagement4 ,don't you recollect your matriculation at the ,vice-,chancellor's1 and what oaths and declarations you made8 ,i don't know what ,i made3 my tutor told me nothing about it4 ,i signed a book or two4 ,you did more1 said ,reding4 ,i was told most carefully4 ,you solemnly engaged to keep the statutes2 and one statute is1 not to go into any dissenting chapel or meeting whatever4 ,catholics are not ,dissenters1 said ,willis4 ,oh1 don't speak so1 said ,charles2 you know it's meant to include them4 ,the statute wishes us to keep from all places of worship whatever but our own4 ,but it is an illegal declaration or vow1 said ,willis1 and so not binding4 ,where did you find that get-off8 said ,charles2 the priest put that into your head4 ,i don't know the priest2 ,i never spoke a word to him1 answered ,willis4 ,well1 any how1 it's not your own answer1 said ,reding2 and does not help you4 ,i am no casuist2 but if it is an illegal engagement you should not continue to enjoy the benefit of it4 ,what benefit8 ,your cap and gown2 a university education2 the chance of a scholarship or fellowship4 ,give up these1 and then plead1 if you will1 and lawfully1 that you are quit of your engagement2 but don't sail under false colours3 don't take the benefit and break the stipulation4 ,you take it too seriously2 there are half a hundred statutes you don't keep1 any more than ,i4 ,you are most inconsistent4 ,well1 if we don't keep them1 said ,charles1 ,i suppose it is in points where the authorities don't enforce them2 for instance1 they don't mean us to dress in brown1 though the statutes order it4 ,but they do mean to keep you from walking down ,high ,street in beaver1 answered ,willis2 for the ,proctors march up and down1 and send you back1 if they catch you4 ,but this is a different matter1 said ,reding1 changing his ground2 this is a matter of religion4 ,it can't be right to go to strange places of worship or meetings4 ,why1 said ,willis1 if we are one ,church with the ,roman ,catholics1 ,i can't make out for the life of me how it's wrong for us to go to them or them to us4 ,i'm no divine1 ,i don't understand what is meant by one ,church1 said ,charles2 but ,i know well that there's not a bishop1 not a clergyman1 not a sober churchman in the land but would give it against you4 ,it's a sheer absurdity4 ,don't talk in that way1 answered ,willis1 please don't4 ,i feel all my heart drawn to the ,catholic worship2 our own service is so cold4 ,that's just what every stiff ,dissenter says1 answered ,charles2 every poor cottager1 too1 who knows no better1 and goes after the ,methodists--after her dear ,mr4 ,spoutaway or the preaching cobbler4 ,she says 7,i have heard them71 ',oh1 sir1 ,i suppose we ought to go where we get most good4 ,mr4 ,so-and-so goes to my heart--he goes through me4' ,willis laughed2 ,well1 not a bad reason1 as times go1 ,i think1 said he3 poor souls1 what better means of judging have they8 how can you hope they will like 'the ,scripture moveth us'8 ,really you are making too much of it4 ,this is only the second time ,i have been there1 and1 ,i tell you in earnest1 ,i find my mind filled with awe and devotion there2 as ,i think you would too4 ,i really am better for it2 ,i cannot pray in church2 there's a bad smell there1 and the pews hide everything2 ,i can't see through a deal board4 ,but here1 when ,i went in1 ,i found all still1 and calm1 the space open1 and1 in the twilight1 the ,tabernacle just visible1 pointed out by the lamp4 ,charles looked very uncomfortable4 ,really1 ,willis1 he said1 ,i don't know what to say to you4 ,heaven forbid that ,i should speak against the ,roman ,catholics2 ,i know nothing about them4 ,but this ,i know1 that you are not a ,roman ,catholic1 and have no business there4 ,if they have such sacred things among them as those you allude to1 still these are not yours2 you are an intruder4 ,i know nothing about it2 ,i don't like to give a judgment1 ,i am sure4 ,but it's a tampering with sacred things2 running here and there1 touching and tasting1 taking up1 putting down4 ,i don't like it1 he added1 with vehemence2 it's taking liberties with ,god4 ,oh1 my dear ,reding1 please don't speak so very severely1 said poor ,willis2 now what have ,i done more than you would do yourself1 were you in ,france or ,italy8 ,do you mean to say you wouldn't enter the churches abroad8 ,i will only decide about what is before me1 answered ,reding2 when ,i go abroad1 then will be the time to think about your question4 ,it is quite enough to know what we ought to do at the moment1 and ,i am clear you have been doing wrong4 ,how did you find your way there8 ,white took me4 ,then there is one man in the world more thoughtless than you3 do many of the gownsmen go there8 ,not that ,i know of2 one or two have gone from curiosity2 there is no practice of going1 at least this is what ,i am told4 ,well1 said ,charles1 you must promise me you will not go again4 ,come1 we won't part till you do4 ,that is too much1 said ,willis1 gently2 then1 disengaging his arm from ,reding's1 he suddenly darted away from him1 saying1 ,good-bye1 good-bye2 to our next merry meeting--au revoir4 ,there was no help for it4 ,charles walked slowly home1 saying to himself3 ,what if1 after all1 the ,roman ,catholic ,church is the true ,church8 ,i wish ,i knew what to believe2 no one will tell me what to believe2 ,i am so left to myself4 ,then he thought3 ,i suppose ,i know quite enough for practice--more than ,i do practise2 and ,i ought surely to be contented and thankful4 ,,chapter ,,xii4 ,charles was an affectionate son1 and the ,long ,vacation passed very happily at home4 ,he was up early1 and read steadily till luncheon1 and then he was at the service of his father1 mother1 and sisters for the rest of the day4 ,he loved the calm1 quiet country2 he loved the monotonous flow of time1 when each day is like the other2 and1 after the excitement of ,oxford1 the secluded parsonage was like a haven beyond the tossing of the waves4 ,the whirl of opinions and perplexities which had encircled him at ,oxford now were like the distant sound of the ocean--they reminded him of his present security4 ,the undulating meadows1 the green lanes1 the open heath1 the common with its wide-spreading dusky elms1 the high timber which fringed the level path from village to village1 ever and anon broken and thrown into groups1 or losing itself in copses--even the gate1 and the stile1 and the turnpike-road had the charm1 not of novelty1 but of long familiar use2 they had the poetry of many recollections4 ,nor was the dilapidated1 deformed church1 with its outside staircases1 its unsightly galleries1 its wide intruded windows1 its uncouth pews1 its low nunting table1 its forlorn vestry1 and its damp earthy smell1 without its pleasant associations to the inner man2 for there it was that for many a year1 ,sunday after ,sunday1 he had heard his dear father read and preach2 there were the old monuments1 with ,latin inscriptions and strange devices1 the black boards with white letters1 the ,resurgams and grinning skulls1 the fire-buckets1 the faded militia-colours1 and1 almost as much a fixture1 the old clerk1 with a ,welsh wig over his ears1 shouting the responses out of place--which had arrested his imagination1 and awed him when a child4 ,and then there was his home itself2 its well-known rooms1 its pleasant routine1 its order1 and its comfort--an old and true friend1 the dearer to him because he had made new ones4 ,where ,i shall be in time to come ,i know not1 he said to himself2 ,i am but a boy2 many things which ,i have not a dream of1 which my imagination cannot compass1 may come on me before ,i die--if ,i live2 but here at least1 and now1 ,i am happy1 and ,i will enjoy my happiness4 ,some say that school is the pleasantest time of one's life2 this does not exclude college4 ,i suppose care is what makes life so wearing4 ,at present ,i have no care1 no responsibility2 ,i suppose ,i shall feel a little when ,i go up for my degree4 ,care is a terrible thing2 ,i have had a little of it at times at school4 ,what a strange thing to fancy1 ,i shall be one day twenty-five or thirty6 ,how the weeks are flying by6 the ,vacation will soon be over4 ,oh1 ,i am so happy1 it quite makes me afraid4 ,yet ,i shall have strength for my day4 ,sometimes1 however1 his thoughts took a sadder turn1 and he anticipated the future more vividly than he enjoyed the present4 ,mr4 ,malcolm had come to see them1 after an absence from the parsonage for several years3 his visit was a great pleasure to ,mr4 ,reding1 and not much less to himself1 to whom a green home and a family circle were agreeable sights1 after his bachelor-life at college4 ,he had been a great favourite with ,charles and his sisters as children1 though now his popularity with them for the most part rested on the memory of the past4 ,when he told them amusing stories1 or allowed them to climb his knee and take off his spectacles1 he did all that was necessary to gain their childish hearts2 more is necessary to conciliate the affection of young men and women2 and thus it is not surprising that he lived in their minds principally by prescription4 ,he neither knew this1 nor would have thought much about it if he had2 for1 like many persons of advancing years1 he made himself very much his own centre1 did not care to enter into the minds of others1 did not consult for them1 or find his happiness in them4 ,he was kind and friendly to the young people1 as he would be kind to a canary-bird or a lap-dog2 it was a sort of external love2 and1 though they got on capitally with him1 they did not miss him when gone1 nor would have been much troubled to know that he was never to come again4 ,charles drove him about the country1 stamped his letters1 secured him his newspapers from the neighbouring town1 and listened to his stories about ,oxford and ,oxford men4 ,he really liked him1 and wished to please him2 but1 as to consulting him in any serious matter1 or going to him for comfort in affliction1 he would as soon have thought of betaking him to ,dan the pedlar1 or old ,isaac who played the ,sunday bassoon4 ,how have your peaches been this year1 ,malcolm8 said ,mr4 ,reding one day after dinner to his guest4 ,you ought to know that we have no peaches in ,oxford1 answered ,mr4 ,malcolm4 ,my memory plays me false1 then3 ,i had a vision of1 at least1 ,october peaches on one occasion1 and fine ones too4 ,ah1 you mean at old ,tom ,spindle's1 the jockey's1 answered ,mr4 ,malcolm2 it's true1 he had a bit of a brick wall1 and was proud of it4 ,but peaches come when there is no one in ,oxford to eat them2 so either the tree1 or at least the fruit1 is a great rarity there4 ,oxford wasn't so empty once2 you have old mulberry-trees there in record of better days4 ,at that time1 too1 said ,charles1 ,i suppose1 the more expensive fruits were not cultivated4 ,mulberries are the witness1 not only of a full college1 but of simple tastes4 ,charles is secretly cutting at our hothouse here1 said ,mr4 ,reding2 as if our first father did not prefer fruits and flowers to beef and mutton4 ,no1 indeed1 said ,charles1 ,i think peaches capital things2 and as to flowers1 ,i am even too fond of scents4 ,charles has some theory1 then1 about scents1 ,i'll be bound1 said his father2 ,i never knew a boy who so placed his likings and dislikings on fancies4 ,he began to eat olives directly he read the ,o,edipus of ,sophocles2 and1 ,i verily believe1 will soon give up oranges from his dislike to ,king ,william4 ,every one does so1 said ,charles3 who would not be in the fashion8 ,there's ,aunt ,kitty1 she calls a bonnet1 'a sweet' one year1 which makes her 'a perfect fright' the next4 ,you're right1 papa1 in this instance1 said his mother2 ,i know he has some good reason1 though ,i never can recollect it1 why he smells a rose1 or distils lavender4 ,what is it1 my dear ,mary8 ',relics ye are of ,eden's bowers1' said she4 ,why1 sir1 that was precisely your own reason just now1 said ,charles to his father4 ,there's more than that1 said ,mrs4 ,reding1 if ,i knew what it was4 ,he thinks the scent more intellectual than the other senses1 said ,mary1 smiling4 ,such a boy for paradoxes6 said his mother4 ,well1 so it is in a certain way1 said ,charles1 but ,i can't explain4 ,sounds and scents are more ethereal1 less material2 they have no shape--like the angels4 ,mr4 ,malcolm laughed4 ,well1 ,i grant it1 ,charles1 he said2 they are length without breadth6 ,did you ever hear the like8 said ,mrs4 ,reding1 laughing too2 don't encourage him1 ,mr4 ,malcolm2 you are worse than he4 ,angels length without breadth6 ,they pass from place to place1 they come1 they go1 continued ,mr4 ,malcolm4 ,they conjure up the past so vividly1 said ,charles4 ,but sounds surely more than scents1 said ,mr4 ,malcolm4 ,pardon me2 the reverse as ,i think1 answered ,charles4 ,that is a paradox1 ,charles1 said ,mr4 ,malcolm2 the smell of roast-beef never went further than to remind a man of dinner2 but sounds are pathetic and inspiring4 ,well1 sir1 but think of this1 said ,charles1 scents are complete in themselves1 yet do not consist of parts4 ,think how very distinct the smell of a rose is from a pink1 a pink from a sweet-pea1 a sweet-pea from a stock1 a stock from lilac1 lilac from lavender1 lavender from jasmine1 jasmine from honeysuckle1 honeysuckle from hawthorn1 hawthorn from hyacinth1 hyacinth---- ,spare us1 interrupted ,mr4 ,malcolm2 you are going through the index of ,loudon6 ,and these are only the scents of flowers2 how different flowers smell from fruits1 fruits from spices1 spices from roast-beef or pork-cutlets1 and so on4 ,now1 what ,i was coming to is this--these scents are perfectly distinct from each other1 and sui generis2 they never can be confused2 yet each is communicated to the apprehension in an instant4 ,sights take up a great space1 a tune is a succession of sounds2 but scents are at once specific and complete1 yet indivisible4 ,who can halve a scent8 they need neither time nor space2 thus they are immaterial or spiritual4 ,charles hasn't been to ,oxford for nothing1 said his mother1 laughing and looking at ,mary2 this is what ,i call chopping logic6 ,well done1 ,charles1 cried ,mr4 ,malcolm2 and now1 since you have such clear notions of the power of smells1 you ought1 like the man in the story1 to be satisfied with smelling at your dinner1 and grow fat upon it4 ,it's a shame you sit down to table4 ,well1 sir1 answered ,charles1 some people do seem to thrive on snuff at least4 ,for shame1 ,charles6 said ,mr4 ,malcolm2 you have seen me use the common-room snuff-box to keep myself awake after dinner2 but nothing more4 ,i keep a box in my pocket merely as a bauble--it was a present4 ,you should have lived when ,i was young4 ,there was old ,dr4 ,troughton of ,nun's ,hall1 he carried his snuff loose in his pocket2 and old ,mrs4 ,vice-,principal ,daffy used to lay a train along her arm1 and fire it with her nose4 ,doctors of medicine took it as a preservative against infection1 and doctors of divinity against drowsiness in church4 ,they take wine against infection now1 said ,mr4 ,reding2 it's a much surer protective4 ,wine8 cried ,mr4 ,malcolm2 oh1 they didn't take less wine then1 as you and ,i know4 ,on certain solemn occasions they made a point of getting drunk1 the whole college1 from the ,vice-,principal or ,sub-,warden down to the scouts4 ,heads of houses were kept in order by their wives2 but ,i assure you the jolly god came very near ,mr4 ,vice-,chancellor himself4 ,there was old ,dr4 ,sturdy of ,st4 ,michael's1 a great martinet in his time4 ,one day the ,king passed through ,oxford2 ,sturdy1 a tall1 upright1 iron-faced man1 had to meet him in procession at ,magdalen ,bridge1 and walked down with his pokers before him1 gold and silver1 vergers1 cocked hats1 and the rest4 ,there wasn't one of them that wasn't in liquor4 ,think of the good old man's horror1 ,majesty in the distance1 and his own people swaying to and fro under his very nose1 and promising to leave him for the gutter before the march was ended4 ,no one can get tipsy with snuff1 ,i grant1 said ,mr4 ,reding2 but if wine has done some men harm it has done others a deal of good4 ,hair-powder is as bad as snuff1 said ,mary1 preferring the former subject2 there's old ,mr4 ,butler of ,cooling1 his wig is so large and full of powder that when he nods his head ,i am sure to sneeze4 ,ah1 but all these are accidents1 young lady1 said ,mr4 ,malcolm1 put out by this block to the conversation1 and running off somewhat testily in another direction2 accidents after all4 ,old people are always the same2 so are young4 ,each age has its own fashion3 if ,mr4 ,butler wore no wig1 still there would be something about him odd and strange to young eyes4 ,charles1 don't you be an old bachelor4 ,no one cares for old people4 ,marry1 my dear boy2 look out betimes for a virtuous young woman1 who will make you an attentive wife4 ,charles slightly coloured1 and his sister laughed as if there was some understanding between them4 ,mr4 ,malcolm continued3 ,don't wait till you want some one to buy flannel for your rheumatism or gout2 marry betimes4 ,you will let me take my degree first1 sir8 said ,charles4 ,certainly1 take your ,m4,a4's if you will2 but don't become an old ,fellow4 ,don't wait till forty2 people make the strangest mistakes4 ,dear ,charles will make a kind and affectionate husband1 ,i am sure1 said his mother1 when the time comes2 and come it will1 though not just yet4 ,yes1 my dear boy1 she added1 nodding at him1 you will not be able to escape your destiny1 when it comes4 ,charles1 you must know1 said ,mr4 ,reding to his guest1 is romantic in his notions just now4 ,i believe it is that he thinks no one good enough for him4 ,oh1 my dear ,charlie1 don't let me pain you1 ,i meant nothing serious2 but somehow he has not hit it off very well with some young ladies here1 who expected more attention than he cared to give4 ,i am sure1 said ,mary1 ,charles is most attentive whenever there is occasion1 and always has his eyes about him to do a service2 only he's a bad hand at small-talk4 ,all will come in time1 my dear1 said his mother2 a good son makes a good husband4 ,and a very loving papa1 said ,mr4 ,malcolm4 ,oh1 spare me1 sir1 said poor ,charles2 how have ,i deserved this8 ,well1 proceeded ,mr4 ,malcolm1 and young ladies ought to marry betimes too4 ,come1 ,mary1 your turn is coming1 cried ,charles2 and taking his sister's hand1 he threw up the sash1 and escaped with her into the garden4 ,they crossed the lawn1 and took refuge in a shrubbery4 ,how strange it is6 said ,mary1 as they strolled along the winding walk2 we used to like ,mr4 ,malcolm so1 as children2 but now--,i like him still1 but he is not the same4 ,we are older1 said her brother2 different things take us now4 ,he used to be so kind1 continued she2 when he was coming1 the day was looked out for2 and mamma said1 ',take care you be good when ,mr4 ,malcolm comes4' ,and he was sure to bring a twelfth-cake1 or a ,noah's ark1 or something of the sort4 ,and then he romped with us1 and let us make fun of him4 ,indeed it isn't he that is changed1 said ,charles1 but we2 we are in the time of life to change2 we have changed already1 and shall change still4 ,what a mercy it is1 said his sister1 that we are so happy among ourselves as a family6 ,if we change1 we shall change together1 as apples of one stock2 if one fails1 the other does4 ,thus we are always the same to each other4 ,it is a mercy1 indeed1 said ,charles2 we are so blest that ,i am sometimes quite frightened4 ,his sister looked earnestly at him4 ,he laughed a little to turn off the edge of his seriousness4 ,you would know what ,i mean1 dear ,mary1 if you had read ,herodotus4 ,a ,greek tyrant feared his own excessive prosperity1 and therefore made a sacrifice to fortune4 ,i mean1 he gave up something which he held most precious2 he took a ring from his finger and cast it into the sea1 lest the ,deity should afflict him1 if he did not afflict himself4 ,my dear ,charles1 she answered1 if we do but enjoy ,god's gifts thankfully1 and take care not to set our hearts on them or to abuse them1 we need not fear for their continuance4 ,well1 said ,charles1 there's one text which has ever dwelt on my mind1 ',rejoice with trembling4' ,i can't take full1 unrestrained pleasure in anything4 ,why not1 if you look at it as ,god's gift8 asked ,mary4 ,i don't defend it1 he replied2 it's my way2 it may be a selfish prudence1 for what ,i know2 but ,i am sure that1 did ,i give my heart to any creature1 ,i should be withdrawing it from ,god4 ,how easily could ,i idolize these sweet walks1 which we have known for so many years6 ,they walked on in silence4 ,well1 said ,mary1 whatever we lose1 no change can affect us as a family4 ,while we are we1 we are to each other what nothing external can be to us1 whether as given or as taken away4 ,charles made no answer4 ,what has come to you1 dear ,charles8 she said1 stopping and looking at him2 then1 gently removing his hair and smoothing his forehead1 she said1 you are so sad to-day4 ,dearest ,mary1 he made answer1 nothing's the matter1 indeed4 ,i think it is ,mr4 ,malcolm who has put me out4 ,it's so stupid to talk of the prospects of a boy like me4 ,don't look so1 ,i mean nothing2 only it annoys me4 ,mary smiled4 ,what ,i mean is1 continued ,charles1 that we can rely on nothing here1 and are fools if we build on the future4 ,we can rely on each other1 she repeated4 ,ah1 dear ,mary1 don't say so2 it frightens me4 ,she looked round at him surprised1 and almost frightened herself4 ,dearest1 he continued1 ,i mean nothing2 only everything is so uncertain here below4 ,we are sure of each other1 ,charles4 ,yes1 ,mary1 and he kissed her affectionately1 it is true1 most true2 then he added1 all ,i meant was that it seems presumptuous to say so4 ,david and ,jonathan were parted2 ,st4 ,paul and ,st4 ,barnabas4 ,tears stood in ,mary's eyes4 ,oh1 what an ass ,i am1 he said1 for thus teasing you about nothing2 no1 ,i only mean that there is ,one only who cannot die1 who never changes1 only ,one4 ,it can't be wrong to remember this4 ,do you recollect ,cowper's beautiful lines8 ,i know them without having learned them--they struck me so much the first time ,i read them2 and he repeated them3-- ,thou art the source and centre of all minds1 ,their only point of rest1 ,eternal ,word4 ,from ,thee departing1 they are lost1 and rove ,at random1 without honour1 hope1 or peace4 ,from ,thee is all that soothes the life of man1 ,his high endeavour and his glad success1 ,his strength to suffer and his will to serve4 ,but oh1 ,thou ,sovereign ,giver of all good1 ,thou art of all ,thy gifts ,thyself the crown2 ,give what ,thou canst1 without ,thee we are poor1 ,and with ,thee rich1 take what ,thou wilt away4 ,,chapter ,,xiii4 ,october came at length1 and with it ,charles's thoughts were turned again to ,oxford4 ,one or two weeks passed by2 then a few days2 and it was time to be packing4 ,his father parted with him with even greater emotion than when he first went to school4 ,he would himself drive him in the phaeton to the neighbouring town1 from which the omnibus ran to the railroad1 though he had the gout flying about him2 and when the moment for parting came he could not get himself to give up his hand1 as if he had something to say which he could not recollect or master4 ,well1 ,christmas will soon come1 he said2 we must part1 it's no use delaying it4 ,write to us soon1 dear boy2 and tell us all about yourself and your matters4 ,tell us about your friends2 they are nice young men apparently3 but ,i have great confidence in your prudence2 you have more prudence than some of them4 ,your tutor seems a valuable man1 from what you tell me1 he went on repeating what had passed between him and ,charles many times before2 a sound1 well-judging man1 that ,mr4 ,vincent4 ,sheffield is too clever2 he is young2 you have an older head4 ,it's no good my going on2 ,i have said all this before2 and you may be late for the train4 ,well1 ,god bless you1 my dearest ,charlie1 and make you a blessing4 ,may you be happier and better than your father6 ,i have ever been blest all my life long--wonderfully blest4 ,blessings have been poured on me from my youth1 far above my deserts2 may they be doubled upon you6 ,good-bye1 my beloved ,charles1 good-bye6 ,charles had to pass a day or two at the house of a relative who lived a little way out of ,london4 ,while he was there a letter arrived for him1 forwarded from home2 it was from ,willis1 dated from ,london1 and announced that he had come to a very important decision1 and should not return to ,oxford4 ,charles was fairly in the world again1 plunged into the whirl of opinions3 how sad a contrast to his tranquil home6 ,there was no mistaking what the letter meant2 and he set out at once with the chance of finding the writer at the house from which he dated it4 ,it was a lodging at the west-end of town2 and he reached it about noon4 ,he found ,willis in company with a person apparently two or three years older4 ,willis started on seeing him4 ,who would have thought6 what brings you here8 he said2 ,i thought you were in the country4 ,then to his companion1 ,this is the friend ,i was speaking to you about1 ,morley4 ,a happy meeting2 sit down1 dear ,reding2 ,i have much to tell you4 ,charles sat down all suspense1 looking at ,willis with such keen anxiety that the latter was forced to cut the matter short4 ,reding1 ,i am a ,catholic4 ,charles threw himself back in his chair1 and turned pale4 ,my dear ,reding1 what is the matter with you8 why don't you speak to me8 ,charles was still silent2 at last1 stooping forward1 with his elbows on his knees1 and his head on his hands1 he said1 in a low voice1 ,o ,willis1 what have you done6 ,done8 said ,willis2 what you should do1 and half ,oxford besides4 ,o ,reding1 ,i'm so happy6 ,alas1 alas6 said ,charles2 but what is the good of my staying8--all good attend you1 ,willis2 good-bye6 ,no1 my good ,reding1 you don't leave me so soon1 having found me so unexpectedly2 and you have had a long walk1 ,i dare say2 sit down1 there's a good fellow2 we shall have luncheon soon1 and you must not go without taking your part in it4 ,he took ,charles's hat from him1 as he spoke2 and ,charles1 in a mixture of feelings1 let him have his way4 ,o ,willis1 so you have separated yourself from us for ever6 he said2 you have taken your course1 we keep ours3 our paths are different4 ,not so1 said ,willis2 you must follow me1 and we shall be one still4 ,charles was half offended2 ,really ,i must go1 he said1 and he rose2 you must not talk in that manner4 ,pray1 forgive me1 answered ,willis2 ,i won't do so again2 but ,i could not help it2 ,i am not in a common state1 ,i'm so happy6 ,a thought struck ,reding4 ,tell me1 ,willis1 he said1 your exact position2 in what sense are you a ,catholic8 ,what is to prevent your returning with me to ,oxford8 ,his companion interposed3 ,i am taking a liberty perhaps1 he said2 but ,mr4 ,willis has been regularly received into the ,catholic ,church4 ,i have not introduced you1 said ,willis4 ,reding1 let me introduce ,mr4 ,morley2 ,morley1 ,mr4 ,reding4 ,yes1 ,reding1 ,i owe it to him that ,i am a ,catholic4 ,i have been on a tour with him abroad4 ,we met with a good priest in ,france1 who consented to receive my abjuration4 ,well1 ,i think he might profitably have examined into your state of mind a little before he did so1 said ,reding2 you are not the person to become a ,catholic1 ,willis4 ,what do you mean8 ,because1 answered ,reding1 you are more of a ,dissenter than a ,catholic4 ,i beg your pardon1 he added1 seeing ,willis look up sharply1 let me be frank with you1 pray do4 ,you were attached to the ,church of ,rome1 not as a child to a mother1 but in a wayward roving way1 as a matter of fancy or liking1 or 7excuse me7 as a greedy boy to something nice2 and you pursued your object by disobeying the authorities set over you4 ,it was as much as ,willis could bear2 he said1 he thought he recollected a text about obeying ,god rather than men4 ,i see you have disobeyed men1 retorted ,charles2 ,i trust you have been obeying ,god4 ,willis thought him rude1 and would not speak4 ,mr4 ,morley began3 ,if you knew the circumstances better1 he said1 you would doubtless judge differently4 ,i consider ,mr4 ,willis to be just the very person on whom it was incumbent to join the ,church1 and who will make an excellent ,catholic4 ,you must blame1 not the venerable priest who received him1 but me4 ,the good man saw his devotion1 his tears1 his humility1 his earnest desire2 but the state of his mind he learned through me1 who speak ,french better than ,mr4 ,willis4 ,however1 he had quite enough conversation with him in ,french and ,latin4 ,he could not reject a postulant for salvation2 it was impossible4 ,had you been he1 you would have done the same4 ,well1 sir1 perhaps ,i have been unjust to him and you1 said ,charles2 however1 ,i cannot augur well of this4 ,you are judging1 sir1 answered ,mr4 ,morley1 let me say it1 of things you do not know4 ,you do not know what the ,catholic religion is1 you do not know what its grace is1 or the gift of faith4 ,the speaker was a layman2 he spoke with earnestness the more intense1 because quiet4 ,charles felt himself reproved by his manner2 his good taste suggested to him that he had been too vehement in the presence of a stranger2 yet he did not feel the less confidence in his cause4 ,he paused before he answered2 then he said briefly1 that he was aware that he did not know the ,roman ,catholic religion1 but he knew ,mr4 ,willis4 ,he could not help giving his opinion that good would not come of it4 ,i have ever been a ,catholic1 said ,mr4 ,morley2 so far ,i cannot judge of members of the ,church of ,england2 but this ,i know1 that the ,catholic ,church is the only true ,church4 ,i may be wrong in many things2 ,i cannot be wrong in this4 ,this too ,i know1 that the ,catholic faith is one1 and that no other ,church has faith4 ,the ,church of ,england has no faith4 ,you1 my dear sir1 have not faith4 ,this was a home-thrust2 the controversies of ,oxford passed before ,reding's mind2 but he instantly recovered himself4 ,you cannot expect1 said he1 smiling1 that ,i1 almost a boy1 should be able to argue with yourself1 or to defend my ,church or to explain her faith4 ,i am content to hold that faith1 to hold what she holds1 without professing to be a divine4 ,this is the doctrine which ,i have been taught at ,oxford4 ,i am under teaching there1 ,i am not yet taught4 ,excuse me1 then1 if ,i decline an argument with you4 ,with ,mr4 ,willis1 it is natural that ,i should argue2 we are equals1 and understand each other2 but ,i am no theologian4 ,here ,willis cried out1 ,o my dear ,reding1 what ,i say is1 ',come and see4' ,don't stand at the door arguing2 but enter the great home of the soul1 enter and adore4 ,but1 said ,reding1 surely ,god wills us to be guided by reason2 ,i don't mean that reason is everything1 but it is at least something4 ,surely we ought not to act without it1 against it4 ,but is not doubt a dreadful state8 said ,willis2 a most perilous state8 ,no state is safe but that of faith4 ,can it be safe to be without faith8 ,now have you faith in your ,church8 ,i know you well enough to know you have not2 where1 then1 are you8 ,willis1 you have misunderstood me most extraordinarily1 said ,charles3 ten thousand thoughts pass through the mind1 and if it is safe to note down and bring against a man his stray words1 ,i suppose there's nothing he mayn't be accused of holding4 ,you must be alluding to some half-sentence or other of mine1 which ,i have forgotten1 and which was no real sample of my sentiments4 ,do you mean ,i have no worship8 and does not worship presuppose faith8 ,i have much to learn1 ,i am conscious2 but ,i wish to learn it from the ,church under whose shadow my lot is cast1 and with whom ,i am content4 ,he confesses1 said ,willis1 that he has no faith2 he confesses that he is in doubt4 ,my dear ,reding1 can you sincerely plead that you are in invincible ignorance after what has passed between us8 now1 suppose for an instant that ,catholicism is true1 is it not certain that you now have an opportunity of embracing it8 and if you do not1 are you in a state to die in8 ,reding was perplexed how to answer2 that is1 he could not with the necessary quickness analyze and put into words the answer which his reason suggested to ,willis's rapid interrogatories4 ,mr4 ,morley had kept silence1 lest ,charles should have two upon him at once2 but when ,willis paused1 and ,charles did not reply1 he interposed4 ,he said that all the calls in ,scripture were obeyed with promptitude by those who were called2 and that our ,lord would not suffer one man even to go and bury his father4 ,reding answered1 that in those cases the voice of ,christ was actually heard2 ,he was on earth1 in bodily presence2 now1 however1 the very question was1 which was the voice of ,christ2 and whether the ,church of ,rome did or did not speak with the voice of ,christ2--that surely we ought to act prudently2 that ,christ could not wish us to act otherwise2 that1 for himself1 he had no doubt that he was in the place where ,providence wished him to be2 but1 even if he had any doubts whether ,christ was calling him elsewhere 7which he had not71 but if he had1 he should certainly think that ,christ called him in the way and method of careful examination1--that prudence was the divinely appointed means of coming at the truth4 ,prudence6 cried ,willis1 such prudence as ,st4 ,thomas's1 ,i suppose1 when he determined to see before believing4 ,charles hesitated to answer4 ,i see it1 continued ,willis2 and1 starting up1 he seized his arm2 come1 my dear fellow1 come with me directly2 let us go to the good priest who lives two streets off4 ,you shall be received this very day4 ,on with your hat4 ,and1 before ,charles could show any resistance1 he was half out of the room4 ,he could not help laughing1 in spite of his vexation2 he disengaged his arm1 and deliberately sat down4 ,not so fast1 he said2 we are not quite this sort of person4 ,willis looked awkward for a moment2 then he said1 ,well1 at least you must go into a retreat2 you must go forthwith4 ,morley1 do you know when ,mr4 de ,mowbray or ,father ,agostino gives his next retreat8 ,reding1 it is just what you want1 just what all ,oxford men want2 ,i think you will not refuse me4 ,charles looked up in his face1 and smiled4 ,it is not my line1 he said at length4 ,i am on my way to ,oxford4 ,i must go4 ,i came here to be of use to you2 ,i can be of none1 so ,i must go4 ,would ,i could be of service2 but it is hopeless4 ,oh1 it makes my heart ache6 ,and he went on brushing his hat with his glove1 as if on the point of rising1 yet loth to rise4 ,morley now struck in3 he spoke all along like a gentleman1 and a man of real piety1 but with a great ignorance of ,protestants1 or how they were to be treated4 ,excuse me1 ,mr4 ,reding1 he said1 if before you go1 ,i say one word4 ,i feel very much for the struggle which is going on in your mind2 and ,i am sure it is not for such as me to speak harshly or unkindly to you4 ,the struggle between conviction and motives of this world is often long2 may it have a happy termination in your case6 ,do not be offended if ,i suggest to you that the dearest and closest ties1 such as your connexion with the ,protestant ,church involves1 may be on the side of the world in certain cases4 ,it is a sort of martyrdom to have to break such2 but they who do so have a martyr's reward4 ,and1 then1 at a ,university you have so many inducements to fall in with the prevailing tone of thought2 prospects1 success in life1 good opinion of friends--all these things are against you4 ,they are likely to choke the good seed4 ,well1 ,i could have wished that you had been able to follow the dictates of conscience at once2 but the conflict must continue its appointed time2 we will hope that all will end well4 ,i can't persuade these good people1 thought ,charles1 as he closed the street-door after him1 that ,i am not in a state of conviction1 and struggling against it2 how absurd6 ,here ,i come to reclaim a deserter1 and ,i am seized even bodily1 and against my will all but hurried into a profession of faith4 ,do these things happen to people every day8 or is there some particular fate with me thus to be brought across religious controversies which ,i am not up to8 ,i a ,roman ,catholic6 what a contrast all this with quiet ,hartley6 naming his home4 ,as he continued to think on what had passed he was still less satisfied with it or with himself4 ,he had gone to lecture1 and he had been lectured2 and he had let out his secret state of mind3 no1 not let out1 he had nothing to let out4 ,he had indeed implied that he was inquiring after religious truth1 but every ,protestant inquires2 he would not be a ,protestant if he did not4 ,of course he was seeking the truth2 it was his duty to do so2 he recollected distinctly his tutor laying down1 on one occasion1 the duty of private judgment4 ,this was the very difference between ,protestants and ,catholics2 ,catholics begin with faith1 ,protestants with inquiry2 and he ought to have said this to ,willis4 ,he was provoked he had not said it2 it would have simplified the question1 and shown how far he was from being unsettled4 ,unsettled6 it was most extravagant4 ,he wished this had but struck him during the conversation1 but it was a relief that it struck him now2 it reconciled him to his position4 ,,chapter ,,xiv4 ,the first day of ,michaelmas term is1 to an undergraduate's furniture1 the brightest day of the year4 ,much as ,charles regretted home1 he rejoiced to see old ,oxford again4 ,the porter had acknowledged him at the gate1 and the scout had smiled and bowed1 as he ran up the worn staircase and found a blazing fire to welcome him4 ,the coals crackled and split1 and threw up a white flame in strong contrast with the newly-blackened bars and hobs of the grate4 ,a shining copper kettle hissed and groaned under the internal torment of water at boiling point4 ,the chimney-glass had been cleaned1 the carpet beaten1 the curtains fresh glazed4 ,a tea-tray and tea commons were placed on the table2 besides a battel paper1 two or three cards from tradesmen who desired his patronage1 and a note from a friend whose term had already commenced4 ,the porter came in with his luggage1 and had just received his too ample remuneration1 when1 through the closing door1 in rushed ,sheffield in his travelling dress4 ,well1 old fellow1 how are you8 he said1 shaking both of ,charles's hands1 or rather arms1 with all his might2 here we are all again2 ,i am just come like you4 ,where have you been all this time8 ,come1 tell us all about yourself4 ,give me some tea1 and let's have a good jolly chat4 ,charles liked ,sheffield1 he liked ,oxford1 he was pleased to get back2 yet he had some remains of home-sickness on him1 and was not quite in cue for ,sheffield's good-natured boisterousness4 ,willis's matter1 too1 was still on his mind4 ,have you heard the news8 said ,sheffield2 ,i have been long enough in college to pick it up4 ,the kitchen-man was full of it as ,i passed along4 ,jack's a particular friend of mine1 a good honest fellow1 and has all the gossip of the place4 ,i don't know what it means1 but ,oxford has just now a very bad inside4 ,the report is1 that some of the men have turned ,romans2 and they say that there are strangers going about ,oxford whom no one knows anything of4 ,jack1 who is a bit of a divine himself1 says he heard the ,principal say that1 for certain1 there were ,jesuits at the bottom of it2 and ,i don't know what he means1 but he declares he saw with his own eyes the ,pope walking down ,high ,street with the priest4 ,i asked him how he knew it2 he said he knew the ,pope by his slouching hat and his long beard2 and the porter told him it was the ,pope4 ,the ,dons have met several times2 and several tutors are to be discommoned1 and their names stuck up against the buttery-door4 ,meanwhile the ,marshal1 with two bulldogs1 is keeping guard before the ,catholic chapel2 and1 to complete it1 that old drunken fellow ,topham is reported1 out of malice1 when called in to cut the ,warden of ,st4 ,mary's hair1 to have made a clean white tonsure atop of him4 ,my dear ,sheffield1 how you run on6 said ,reding4 ,well1 do you know1 ,i can tell you a piece of real news bearing on these reports1 and not of the pleasantest4 ,did you know ,willis of ,st4 ,george's8 ,i think ,i once saw him at wine in your rooms2 a modest1 nice-looking fellow1 who never spoke a word4 ,ah1 ,i assure you1 he has a tongue in his head when it suits him1 answered ,charles3 yet ,i do think1 he added1 musingly1 he's very much changed1 and not for the better4 ,well1 what's the upshot8 asked ,sheffield4 ,he has turned ,catholic1 said ,charles4 ,what a fool6 cried ,sheffield4 ,there was a pause4 ,charles felt awkward3 then he said1 ,i can't say ,i was surprised2 yet ,i should have been less surprised at ,white4 ,oh1 ,white won't turn ,catholic1 said ,sheffield2 he hasn't it in him4 ,he's a coward4 ,fools and cowards6 answered ,charles3 thus you divide the world1 ,sheffield8 ,poor ,willis6 he added2 one must respect a man who acts according to his conscience4 ,what can he know of conscience8 said ,sheffield2 the idea of his swallowing1 of his own free-will1 the heap of rubbish which every ,catholic has to believe6 in cold blood tying a collar round his neck1 and politely putting the chain into the hands of a priest6444 ,and then the ,confessional6 ',tis marvellous6 and he began to break the coals with the poker4 ,it's very well1 he continued1 if a man is born a ,catholic2 ,i don't suppose they really believe what they are obliged to profess2 but how an ,englishman1 a gentleman1 a man here at ,oxford1 with all his advantages1 can so eat dirt1 scraping and picking up all the dead lies of the dark ages--it's a miracle6 ,well1 if there is anything that recommends ,romanism to me1 said ,charles1 it is what you so much dislike3 ,i'd give twopence1 if some one1 whom ,i could trust1 would say to me1 ',this is true2 this is not true4' ,we should be saved this eternal wrangling4 ,wouldn't you be glad if ,st4 ,paul could come to life8 ,i've often said to myself1 ',oh1 that ,i could ask ,st4 ,paul this or that6' ,but the ,catholic ,church isn't ,st4 ,paul quite1 ,i guess1 said ,sheffield4 ,certainly not2 but supposing you did think it had the inspiration of an ,apostle1 as the ,roman ,catholics do1 what a comfort it would be to know1 beyond all doubt1 what to believe about ,god1 and how to worship and please ,him6 ,i mean1 you said1 ',i can't believe this or that2' now you ought to have said1 ',i can't believe the ,pope has power to decide this or that4' ,if he had1 you ought to believe it1 whatever it is1 and not to say1 ',i can't believe4' ,sheffield looked hard at him3 ,we shall have you a papist some of these fine days1 said he4 ,nonsense1 answered ,charles2 you shouldn't say such things1 even in jest4 ,i don't jest2 ,i am in earnest3 you are plainly on the road4 ,well1 if ,i am1 you have put me on it1 said ,reding1 wishing to get away from the subject as quick as he could2 for you are ever talking against shams1 and laughing at ,king ,charles and ,laud1 ,bateman1 ,white1 rood-lofts1 and piscinas4 ,now you are a ,puseyite1 said ,sheffield in surprise4 ,you give me the name of a very good man1 whom ,i hardly know by sight1 said ,reding2 but ,i mean1 that nobody knows what to believe1 no one has a definite faith1 but the ,catholics and the ,puseyites2 no one says1 ',this is true1 that is false2 this comes from the ,apostles1 that does not4' ,then would you believe a ,turk1 asked ,sheffield1 who came to you with his ',one ,allah1 and ,mahomet his ,prophet'8 ,i did not say a creed was everything1 answered ,reding1 or that a religion could not be false which had a creed2 but a religion can't be true which has none4 ,well1 somehow that doesn't strike me1 said ,sheffield4 ,now there was ,vincent at the end of term1 after you had gone down1 continued ,charles2 you know ,i stayed up for ,littlego2 and he was very civil1 very civil indeed4 ,i had a talk with him about ,oxford parties1 and he pleased me very much at the time2 but afterwards1 the more ,i thought of what he said1 the less was ,i satisfied2 that is1 ,i had got nothing definite from him4 ,he did not say1 ',this is true1 that is false2' but ',be true1 be true1 be good1 be good1 don't go too far1 keep in the mean1 have your eyes about you1 eschew parties1 follow our divines1 all of them2'--all which was but putting salt on the bird's tail4 ,i want some practical direction1 not abstract truths4 ,vincent is a humbug1 said ,sheffield4 ,dr4 ,pusey1 on the other hand1 continued ,charles1 is said always to be decisive4 ,he says1 ',this is ,apostolic1 that's in the ,fathers2 ,st4 ,cyprian says this1 ,st4 ,augustine denies that2 this is safe1 that's wrong2 ,i bid you1 ,i forbid you4' ,i understand all this2 but ,i don't understand having duties put on me which are too much for me4 ,i don't understand1 ,i dislike1 having a will of my own1 when ,i have not the means to use it justly4 ,in such a case1 to tell me to act of myself1 is like ,pharaoh setting the ,israelites to make bricks without straw4 ,setting me to inquire1 to judge1 to decide1 forsooth6 it's absurd2 who has taught me8 ,but the ,puseyites are not always so distinct1 said ,sheffield2 there's ,smith1 he never speaks decidedly in difficult questions4 ,i know a man who was going to remain in ,italy for some years1 at a distance from any ,english chapel1--he could not help it1--and who came to ask him if he might communicate in the ,catholic churches2 he could not get an answer from him2 he would not say yes or no4 ,then he won't have many followers1 that's all1 said ,charles4 ,but he has more than ,dr4 ,pusey1 answered ,sheffield4 ,well1 ,i can't understand it1 said ,charles2 he ought not2 perhaps they won't stay4 ,the truth is1 said ,sheffield1 ,i suspect he is more of a sceptic at bottom4 ,well1 ,i honour the man who builds up1 said ,reding1 and ,i despise the man who breaks down4 ,i am inclined to think you have a wrong notion of building up and pulling down1 answered ,sheffield2 ,coventry1 in his ',dissertations1' makes it quite clear that ,christianity is not a religion of doctrines4 ,who is ,coventry8 ,not know ,coventry8 he is one of the most original writers of the day2 he's an ,american1 and1 ,i believe1 a congregationalist4 ,oh1 ,i assure you1 you should read ,coventry1 although he is wrong on the question of ,church-government3 you are not well au courant with the literature of the day unless you do4 ,he is no party man2 he is a correspondent of the first men of the day2 he stopped with the ,dean of ,oxford when he was in ,england1 who has published an ,english edition of his ',dissertations1' with a ,preface2 and he and ,lord ,newlights were said to be the two most witty men at the meeting of the ,british ,association1 two years ago4 ,i don't like ,lord ,newlights1 said ,charles1 he seems to me to have no principle2 that is1 no fixed1 definite religious principle4 ,you don't know where to find him4 ,this is what my father thinks2 ,i have often heard him speak of him4 ,it's curious you should use the word principle1 said ,sheffield2 for it is that which ,coventry lays such stress on4 ,he says that ,christianity has no creed2 that this is the very point in which it is distinguished from other religions2 that you will search the ,new ,testament in vain for a creed2 but that ,scripture is full of principles4 ,the view is very ingenious1 and seemed to me true1 when ,i read the book4 ,according to him1 then1 ,christianity is not a religion of doctrines or mysteries2 and if you are looking for dogmatism in ,scripture1 it's a mistake4 ,charles was puzzled4 ,certainly1 he said1 at first sight there is no creed in ,scripture4--,no creed in ,scripture1 he said slowly1 as if thinking aloud2 no creed in ,scripture1 therefore there is no creed4 ,but the ,athanasian ,creed1 he added quickly1 is that in ,scripture8 ,it either is in ,scripture1 or it is not4 ,let me see1 it either is there1 or it is not4444 ,what was it that ,freeborn said last term8444 ,tell me1 ,sheffield1 would the ,dean of ,oxford say that the ,creed was in ,scripture or not8 perhaps you do not fairly explain ,coventry's view2 what is your impression8 ,why1 ,i will tell you frankly1 my impression is1 judging from his ,preface1 that he would not scruple to say that it is not in ,scripture1 but a scholastic addition4 ,my dear fellow1 said ,charles1 do you mean that he1 a dignitary of the ,church1 would say that the ,athanasian ,creed was a mistake1 because it represented ,christianity as a revelation of doctrines or mysteries to be received on faith8 ,well1 ,i may be wrong1 said ,sheffield1 but so ,i understood him4 ,after all1 said ,charles sadly1 it's not so much more than that other ,dean1 ,i forget his name1 said at ,st4 ,mary's before the ,vacation2 it's part of the same system4 ,oh1 it was after you went down1 or just at the end of term3 you don't go to sermons2 ,i'm inclined not to go either4 ,i can't enter upon the ,dean's argument2 it's not worth while4 ,well1 he added1 standing up and stretching himself1 ,i am tired with the day1 yet it has not been a fatiguing one either2 but ,london is so bustling a place4 ,you wish me to say good-night1 said ,sheffield4 ,charles did not deny the charge2 and the friends parted4 ,,chapter ,,xv4 ,there could not have been a lecture more unfavourable for ,charles's peace of mind than that in which he found himself this term placed2 yet1 so blind are we to the future1 he hailed it with great satisfaction1 as if it was to bring him an answer to the perplexities into which ,sheffield1 ,bateman1 ,freeborn1 ,white1 ,willis1 ,mr4 ,morley1 ,dr4 ,brownside1 ,mr4 ,vincent1 and the general state of ,oxford1 had all1 in one way or other1 conspired to throw him4 ,he had shown such abilities in the former part of the year1 and was reading so diligently1 that his tutors put him prematurely into the lecture upon the ,articles4 ,it was a capital lecture so far as this1 that the tutor who gave it had got up his subject completely4 ,he knew the whole history of the ,articles1 how they grew into their present shape1 with what fortunes1 what had been added1 and when1 and what omitted4 ,with this1 of course1 was joined an explanation of the text1 as deduced1 as far as could be1 from the historical account thus given4 ,not only the ,british1 but the foreign ,reformers were introduced2 and nothing was wanting1 at least in the intention of the lecturer1 for fortifying the young inquirer in the doctrine and discipline of the ,church of ,england4 ,it did not produce this effect on ,reding4 ,whether he had expected too much1 or whatever was the cause1 so it was that he did but feel more vividly the sentiment of the old father in the comedy1 after consulting the lawyers1 ,incertior sum multo quam ante4 ,he saw that the profession of faith contained in the ,articles was but a patchwork of bits of orthodoxy1 ,lutheranism1 ,calvinism1 and ,zuinglism2 and this too on no principle2 that it was but the work of accident1 if there be such a thing as accident2 that it had come down in the particular shape in which the ,english ,church now receives it1 when it might have come down in any other shape2 that it was but a toss-up that ,anglicans at this day were not ,calvinists1 or ,presbyterians1 or ,lutherans1 equally well as ,episcopalians4 ,this historical fact did but clench the difficulty1 or rather impossibility1 of saying what the faith of the ,english ,church was4 ,on almost every point of dispute the authoritative standard of doctrine was vague or inconsistent1 and there was an imposing weight of external testimony in favour of opposite interpretations4 ,he stopped after lecture once or twice1 and asked information of ,mr4 ,upton1 the tutor1 who was quite ready to give it2 but nothing came of these applications as regards the object which led him to make them4 ,one difficulty which ,charles experienced was to know whether1 according to the ,articles1 ,divine truth was directly given us1 or whether we had to seek it for ourselves from ,scripture4 ,several ,articles led to this question2 and ,mr4 ,upton1 who was a ,high ,churchman1 answered him that the saving doctrine neither was given nor was to be sought1 but that it was proposed by the ,church1 and proved by the individual4 ,charles did not see this distinction between seeking and proving2 for how can we prove except by seeking 7in ,scripture7 for reasons8 ,he put the question in another form1 and asked if the ,christian ,religion allowed of private judgment8 ,this was no abstruse question1 and a very practical one4 ,had he asked a ,wesleyan or ,independent1 he would have had an unconditional answer in the affirmative2 had he asked a ,catholic1 he would have been told that we used our private judgment to find the ,church1 and then in all matters of faith the ,church superseded it2 but from this ,oxford divine he could not get a distinct answer4 ,first he was told that doubtless we must use our judgment in the determination of religious doctrine2 but next he was told that it was sin 7as it undoubtedly is7 to doubt the dogma of the ,blessed ,trinity4 ,yet1 while he was told that to doubt of that doctrine was a sin1 he was told in another conversation that our highest state here is one of doubt4 ,what did this mean8 ,surely certainty was simply necessary on some points1 as on the ,object of worship2 how could we worship what we doubted of8 ,the two acts were contrasted by the ,evangelist2 when the disciples saw our ,lord after the resurrection1 they worshipped ,him1 but some doubted2 yet1 in spite of this1 he was told that there was impatience in the very idea of desiring certainty4 ,at another time he asked whether the anathemas of the ,athanasian ,creed applied to all its clauses2 for instance1 whether it is necessary to salvation to hold that there is unus ternus as the ,latin has it2 or such as the ,father1 444 such the ,holy ,ghost2 or that the ,holy ,ghost is by ,himself ,god and ,lord2 or that ,christ is one by the taking of the manhood into ,god8 ,he could get no answer4 ,mr4 ,upton said that he did not like extreme questions2 that he could not and did not wish to answer them2 that the ,creed was written against heresies1 which no longer existed1 as a sort of protest4 ,reding asked whether this meant that the ,creed did not contain a distinctive view of its own1 which alone was safe1 but was merely a negation of error4 ,the clauses1 he observed1 were positive1 not negative4 ,he could get no answer farther than that the ,creed taught that the doctrines of the ,trinity and the ,incarnation were necessary to salvation1 it being apparently left uncertain what those doctrines consisted in4 ,one day he asked how grievous sins were to be forgiven which were committed after baptism1 whether by faith1 or not at all in this life4 ,he was answered that the ,articles said nothing on the subject2 that the ,romish doctrine of pardon and purgatory was false2 and that it was well to avoid both curious questions and subtle answers4 ,another question turned up at another lecture1 viz4 whether the ,real ,presence meant a ,presence of ,christ in the elements1 or in the soul1 i4e4 in the faith of the recipient2 in other words1 whether the ,presence was really such1 or a mere name4 ,mr4 ,upton pronounced it an open question4 ,another day ,charles asked whether ,christ was present in fact1 or only in effect4 ,mr4 ,upton answered decidedly in effect1 which seemed to ,reding to mean no real presence at all4 ,he had had some difficulty in receiving the doctrine of eternal punishment2 it had seemed to him the hardest doctrine of ,revelation4 ,then he said to himself1 ,but what is faith in its very notion but an acceptance of the word of ,god when reason seems to oppose it8 ,how is it faith at all if there is nothing to try it8 ,this thought fully satisfied him4 ,the only question was1 ,is it part of the revealed word8 ,i can believe it1 he said1 if ,i know for certain that ,i ought to believe it2 but if ,i am not bound to believe it1 ,i can't believe it4 ,accordingly he put the question to ,mr4 ,upton whether it was a doctrine of the ,church of ,england2 that is1 whether it came under the subscription to the ,articles4 ,he could obtain no answer4 ,yet if he did not believe this doctrine1 he felt the whole fabric of his faith shake under him4 ,close upon it came the doctrine of the ,atonement4 ,it is difficult to give instances of this kind1 without producing the impression on the reader's mind that ,charles was forward and captious in his inquiries4 ,certainly ,mr4 ,upton had his own thoughts about him1 but he never thought his manner inconsistent with modesty and respect towards himself4 ,charles naturally was full of the subject1 and would have disclosed his perplexities to ,sheffield1 had he not had a strong anticipation that this would have been making matters worse4 ,he thought ,bateman1 however1 might be of some service1 and he disburdened himself to him in the course of a country walk4 ,what was he to do8 for on his entrance he had been told that when he took his degree he should have to sign the ,articles1 not on faith as then1 but on reason2 yet they were unintelligible2 and how could he prove what he could not construe8 ,bateman seemed unwilling to talk on the subject2 at last he said1 ,oh1 my dear ,reding1 you really are in an excited state of mind2 ,i don't like to talk to you just now1 for you will not see things in a straightforward way and take them naturally4 ,what a bug-bear you are conjuring up6 ,you are in an ,article lecture in your second year2 and hardly have you commenced1 but you begin to fancy what you will1 or will not think at the end of your time4 ,don't ask about the ,articles now2 wait at least till you have seen the lecture through4 ,it really is not my way to be fussed or to fidget1 said ,charles1 though ,i own ,i am not so quiet as ,i ought to be4 ,i hear so many different opinions in conversation2 then ,i go to church1 and one preacher deals his blows at another2 lastly1 ,i betake myself to the ,articles1 and really ,i cannot make out what they would teach me4 ,for instance1 ,i cannot make out their doctrine about faith1 about the sacraments1 about predestination1 about the ,church1 about the inspiration of ,scripture4 ,and their tone is so unlike the ,prayer ,book4 ,upton has brought this out in his lectures most clearly4 ,now1 my most respectable friend1 said ,bateman1 do think for a moment what men have signed the ,articles4 ,perhaps ,king ,charles himself2 certainly ,laud1 and all the great ,bishops of his day1 and of the next generation4 ,think of the most orthodox ,bull1 the singularly learned ,pearson1 the eloquent ,taylor1 ,montague1 ,barrow1 ,thorndike1 good dear ,bishop ,horne1 and ,jones of ,nayland4 ,can't you do what they did8 ,the argument is a very strong one1 said ,charles2 ,i have felt it3 you mean1 then1 ,i must sign on faith4 ,yes1 certainly1 if necessary1 said ,bateman4 ,and how am ,i to sign as a ,master1 and when ,i am ordained8 asked ,charles4 ,that's what ,i mean by fidgeting1 answered ,bateman4 ,you are not content with your day2 you are reaching forward to live years hence4 ,charles laughed4 ,it isn't quite that1 he said1 ,i was but testing your advice2 however1 there's some truth in it4 ,and he changed the subject4 ,they talked awhile on indifferent matters2 but on a pause ,charles's thoughts fell back again to the ,articles4 ,tell me1 ,bateman1 he said1 as a mere matter of curiosity1 how you subscribed when you took your degree4 ,oh1 ,i had no difficulty at all1 said ,bateman2 the examples of ,bull and ,pearson were enough for me4 ,then you signed on faith4 ,not exactly1 but it was that thought which smoothed all difficulties4 ,could you have signed without it8 ,how can you ask me the question8 of course4 ,well1 do tell me1 then1 what was your ground8 ,oh1 ,i had many grounds4 ,i can't recollect in a moment what happened some time ago4 ,oh1 then it was a matter of difficulty2 indeed1 you said so just now4 ,not at all3 my only difficulty was1 not about myself1 but how to state the matter to other people4 ,what6 some one suspected you8 ,no1 no2 you are quite mistaken4 ,i mean1 for instance1 the ,article says that we are justified by faith only2 now the ,protestant sense of this statement is point blank opposite to our standard divines3 the question was1 what ,i was to say when asked my sense of it4 ,i understand1 said ,charles2 now tell me how you solved the problem4 ,well1 ,i don't deny that the ,protestant sense is heretical1 answered ,bateman2 and so is the ,protestant sense of many other things in the ,articles2 but then we need not take them in the ,protestant sense4 ,then in what sense8 ,why1 first1 said ,bateman1 we need not take them in any sense at all4 ,don't smile2 listen4 ,great authorities1 such as ,laud or ,bramhall1 seem to have considered that we only sign the ,articles as articles of peace2 not as really holding them1 but as not opposing them4 ,therefore1 when we sign the ,articles1 we only engage not to preach against them4 ,reding thought2 then he said3 ,tell me1 ,bateman1 would not this view of subscription to the ,articles let the ,unitarians into the ,church8 ,bateman allowed it would1 but the ,liturgy would still keep them out4 ,charles then went on to suggest that they would take the ,liturgy as a ,liturgy of peace too4 ,bateman began again4 ,if you want some tangible principle1 he said1 for interpreting ,articles and ,liturgy1 ,i can give you one4 ,you know1 he continued1 after a short pause1 what it is we hold8 ,why1 we give the ,articles a ,catholic interpretation4 ,charles looked inquisitive4 ,it is plain1 continued ,bateman1 that no document can be a dead letter2 it must be the expression of some mind2 and the question here is1 whose is what may be called the voice which speaks the ,articles4 ,now1 if the ,bishops1 ,heads of houses1 and other dignitaries and authorities were unanimous in their religious views1 and one and all said that the ,articles meant this and not that1 they1 as the imponents1 would have a right to interpret them2 and the ,articles would mean what those great men said they meant4 ,but they do not agree together2 some of them are diametrically opposed to others4 ,one clergyman denies ,apostolical ,succession1 another affirms it2 one denies the ,lutheran justification1 another maintains it2 one denies the inspiration of ,scripture1 a second holds ,calvin to be a saint1 a third considers the doctrine of sacramental grace a superstition1 a fourth takes part with ,nestorius against the ,church1 a fifth is a ,sabellian4 ,it is plain1 then1 that the ,articles have no sense at all1 if the collective voice of ,bishops1 ,deans1 ,professors1 and the like is to be taken4 ,they cannot supply what schoolmen call the form of the ,articles4 ,but perhaps the writers themselves of the ,articles will supply it8 ,no2 for1 first1 we don't know for certain who the writers were2 and next1 the ,articles have gone through so many hands1 and so many mendings1 that some at least of the original authors would not like to be responsible for them4 ,well1 let us go to the ,convocations which ratified them3 but they1 too1 were of different sentiments2 the seventeenth century did not hold the doctrine of the sixteenth4 ,such is the state of the case4 ,on the other hand1 we say that if the ,anglican ,church be a part of the one ,church ,catholic1 it must1 from the necessity of the case1 hold ,catholic doctrine4 ,therefore1 the whole ,catholic ,creed1 the acknowledged doctrine of the ,fathers1 of ,st4 ,ignatius1 ,st4 ,cyprian1 ,st4 ,augustin1 ,st4 ,ambrose1 is the form1 is the one true sense and interpretation of the ,articles4 ,they may be ambiguous in themselves2 they may have been worded with various intentions by the individuals concerned in their composition2 but these are accidents2 the ,church knows nothing of individuals2 she interprets herself4 ,reding took some time to think over this4 ,all this1 he said1 proceeds on the fundamental principle that the ,church of ,england is an integral part of that visible body of which ,st4 ,ignatius1 ,st4 ,cyprian1 and the rest were ,bishops2 according to the words of ,scripture1 'one body1 one faith4' ,bateman assented2 ,charles proceeded3 ,then the ,articles must not be considered primarily as teaching2 they have no one sense in themselves2 they are confessedly ambiguous3 they are compiled from heterogeneous sources2 but all this does not matter1 for all must be interpreted by the teaching of the ,catholic ,church4 ,bateman agreed in the main1 except that ,reding had stated the case rather too strongly4 ,but what if their letter contradicts a doctrine of the ,fathers8 am ,i to force the letter8 ,if such a case actually happened1 the theory would not hold1 answered ,bateman2 it would only be a gross quibble4 ,you can in no case sign an ,article in a sense which its words will not bear4 ,but1 fortunately1 or rather providentially1 this is not the case2 we have merely to explain ambiguities1 and harmonize discrepancies4 ,the ,catholic interpretation does no greater violence to the text than any other rule of interpretation will be found to do4 ,well1 but ,i know nothing of the ,fathers1 said ,charles2 others too are in the same condition2 how am ,i to learn practically to interpret the ,articles8 ,by the ,prayer ,book2 the ,prayer ,book is the voice of the ,fathers4 ,how so8 ,because the ,prayer ,book is confessedly ancient1 while the ,articles are modern4 ,charles kept silence again4 ,it is very plausible1 he said2 he thought on4 ,presently he asked3 ,is this a received view8 ,no view is received1 said ,bateman2 the ,articles themselves are received1 but there is no authoritative interpretation of them at all4 ,that's what ,i was saying just now2 ,bishops and ,professors don't agree together4 ,well1 said ,charles1 is it a tolerated view8 ,it has certainly been strongly opposed1 answered ,bateman2 but it has never been condemned4 ,that is no answer1 said ,charles1 who saw by ,bateman's manner how the truth lay4 ,does any one ,bishop hold it8 did any one ,bishop ever hold it8 has it ever been formally admitted as tenable by any one ,bishop8 is it a view got up to meet existing difficulties1 or has it an historical existence8 ,bateman could give but one answer to these questions1 as they were successively put to him4 ,i thought so1 said ,charles1 when he had made his answer3 ,i know1 of course1 whose view you are putting before me1 though ,i never heard it drawn out before4 ,it is specious1 certainly3 ,i don't see but it might have done1 had it been tolerably sanctioned2 but you have no sanction to show me4 ,it is1 as it stands1 a mere theory struck out by individuals4 ,our ,church might have adopted this mode of interpreting the ,articles2 but from what you tell me1 it certainly has not done so4 ,i am where ,i was4 ,,chapter ,,xvi4 ,the thought came across ,reding whether perhaps1 after all1 what is called ,evangelical ,religion was not the true ,christianity3 its professors1 he knew1 were active and influential1 and in past times had been much persecuted4 ,freeborn had surprised and offended him at ,bateman's breakfast-party before the ,vacation2 yet ,freeborn had a serious manner about him1 and perhaps he had misunderstood him4 ,the thought1 however1 passed away as suddenly as it came1 and perhaps would not have occurred to him again1 when an accident gave him some data for determining the question4 ,one afternoon he was lounging in the ,parks1 gazing with surprise on one of those extraordinary lights for which the neighbourhood of ,oxford is at that season celebrated1 and which1 as the sun went down1 was colouring ,marston1 ,elsfield1 and their half-denuded groves with a pale gold-and-brown hue1 when he found himself overtaken and addressed by the said ,freeborn in propri person4 ,freeborn liked a tte--tte talk much better than a dispute in a party2 he felt himself at more advantage in long leisurely speeches1 and he was soon put out of breath when he had to bolt-out or edge-in his words amid the ever-varying voices of a breakfast-table4 ,he thought the present might be a good opportunity of doing good to a poor youth who did not know chalk from cheese1 and who1 by his means1 might be1 as he would word it1 savingly converted4 ,so they got into conversation1 talked of ,willis's step1 which ,freeborn called awful2 and1 before ,charles knew where he was1 he found himself asking ,freeborn what he meant by faith4 ,faith1 said ,freeborn1 is a ,divine gift1 and is the instrument of our justification in ,god's sight4 ,we are all by nature displeasing to ,him1 till ,he justifies us freely for ,christ's sake4 ,faith is like a hand1 appropriating personally the merits of ,christ1 who is our justification4 ,now1 what can we want more1 or have more1 than those merits8 ,faith1 then1 is everything1 and does everything for us4 ,you see1 then1 how important it is to have a right view about justification by faith only4 ,if we are sound on this capital point1 everything else may take its chance2 we shall at once see the folly of contending about ceremonies1 about forms of ,church-government1 about1 ,i will even say1 sacraments or creeds4 ,external things will1 in that case1 either be neglected1 or will find a subordinate place4 ,reding observed that of course ,freeborn did not mean to say that good works were not necessary for obtaining ,god's favour2 but if they were1 how was justification by faith only8 ,freeborn smiled1 and said that he hoped ,reding would have clearer views in a little time4 ,it was a very simple matter4 ,faith not only justified1 it regenerated also4 ,it was the root of sanctification1 as well as of ,divine acceptance4 ,the same act1 which was the means of bringing us into ,god's favour1 secured our being meet for it4 ,thus good works were secured1 because faith would not be true faith unless it were such as to be certain of bringing forth good works in due time4 ,reding thought this view simple and clear1 though it unpleasantly reminded him of ,dr4 ,brownside4 ,freeborn added that it was a doctrine suited to the poor1 that it put all the gospel into a nutshell1 that it dispensed with criticism1 primitive ages1 teachers--in short1 with authority in whatever form4 ,it swept theology clean away4 ,there was no need to mention this last consequence to ,charles2 but he passed it by1 wishing to try the system on its own merits4 ,you speak of true faith1 he said1 as producing good works3 you say that no faith justifies but true faith1 and true faith produces good works4 ,in other words1 ,i suppose1 faith1 which is certain to be fruitful1 or fruitful faith1 justifies4 ,this is very like saying that faith and works are the joint means of justification4 ,oh1 no1 no1 cried ,freeborn1 that is deplorable doctrine3 it is quite opposed to the gospel1 it is anti-,christian4 ,we are justified by faith only1 apart from good works4 ,i am in an ,article lecture just now1 said ,charles1 and ,upton told us that we must make a distinction of this kind2 for instance1 the ,duke of ,wellington is ,chancellor of the ,university1 but1 though he is as much ,chancellor as ,duke1 still he sits in the ,house of ,lords as ,duke1 not as ,chancellor4 ,thus1 although faith is as truly fruitful as it is faith1 yet it does not justify as being fruitful1 but as being faith4 ,is this what you mean8 ,not at all1 said ,freeborn2 that was ,melancthon's doctrine2 he explained away a cardinal truth into a mere matter of words2 he made faith a mere symbol1 but this is a departure from the pure gospel3 faith is the instrument1 not a symbol of justification4 ,it is1 in truth1 a mere apprehension1 and nothing else3 the seizing and clinging which a beggar might venture on when a king passed by4 ,faith is as poor as ,job in the ashes3 it is like ,job stripped of all pride and pomp and good works3 it is covered with filthy rags3 it is without anything good3 it is1 ,i repeat1 a mere apprehension4 ,now you see what ,i mean4 ,i can't believe ,i understand you1 said ,charles3 you say that to have faith is to seize ,christ's merits2 and that we have them1 if we will but seize them4 ,but surely not every one who seizes them1 gains them2 because dissolute men1 who never have a dream of thorough repentance or real hatred of sin1 would gladly seize and appropriate them1 if they might do so4 ,they would like to get to heaven for nothing4 ,faith1 then1 must be some particular kind of apprehension2 what kind8 good works cannot be mistaken1 but an 'apprehension' may4 ,what1 then1 is a true apprehension8 what is faith8 ,what need1 my dear friend1 answered ,freeborn1 of knowing metaphysically what true faith is1 if we have it and enjoy it8 ,i do not know what bread is1 but ,i eat it2 do ,i wait till a chemist analyzes it8 ,no1 ,i eat it1 and ,i feel the good effects afterwards4 ,and so let us be content to know1 not what faith is1 but what it does1 and enjoy our blessedness in possessing it4 ,i really don't want to introduce metaphysics1 said ,charles1 but ,i will adopt your own image4 ,suppose ,i suspected the bread before me to have arsenic in it1 or merely to be unwholesome1 would it be wonderful if ,i tried to ascertain how the fact stood8 ,did you do so this morning at breakfast8 asked ,freeborn4 ,i did not suspect my bread1 answered ,charles4 ,then why suspect faith8 asked ,freeborn4 ,because it is1 so to say1 a new substance1--,freeborn sighed1--because ,i am not used to it1 nay1 because ,i suspect it4 ,i must say suspect it2 because1 though ,i don't know much about the matter1 ,i know perfectly well1 from what has taken place in my father's parish1 what excesses this doctrine may lead to1 unless it is guarded4 ,you say that it is a doctrine for the poor2 now they are very likely to mistake one thing for another2 so indeed is every one4 ,if1 then1 we are told1 that we have but to apprehend ,christ's merits1 and need not trouble ourselves about anything else2 that justification has taken place1 and works will follow2 that all is done1 and that salvation is complete1 while we do but continue to have faith2 ,i think we ought to be pretty sure that we have faith1 real faith1 a real apprehension1 before we shut up our books and make holiday4 ,freeborn was secretly annoyed that he had got into an argument1 or pained1 as he would express it1 at the pride of ,charles's natural man1 or the blindness of his carnal reason2 but there was no help for it1 he must give him an answer4 ,there are1 ,i know1 many kinds of faith1 he said2 and of course you must be on your guard against mistaking false faith for true faith4 ,many persons1 as you most truly say1 make this mistake2 and most important is it1 all important ,i should say1 to go right4 ,first1 it is evident that it is not mere belief in facts1 in the being of a ,god1 or in the historical event that ,christ has come and gone4 ,nor is it the submission of the reason to mysteries2 nor1 again1 is it that sort of trust which is required for exercising the gift of miracles4 ,nor is it knowledge and acceptance of the contents of the ,bible4 ,i say1 it is not knowledge1 it is not assent of the intellect1 it is not historical faith1 it is not dead faith3 true justifying faith is none of these--it is seated in the heart and affections4 ,he paused1 then added3 ,now1 ,i suppose1 for practical purposes1 ,i have described pretty well what justifying faith is4 ,charles hesitated3 ,by describing what it is not1 you mean1 said he2 justifying faith1 then1 is1 ,i suppose1 living faith4 ,not so fast1 answered ,freeborn4 ,why1 said ,charles1 if it's not dead faith1 it's living faith4 ,it's neither dead faith nor living1 said ,freeborn1 but faith1 simple faith1 which justifies4 ,luther was displeased with ,melancthon for saying that living and operative faith justified4 ,i have studied the question very carefully4 ,then do you tell me1 said ,charles1 what faith is1 since ,i do not explain it correctly4 ,for instance1 if you said 7what you don't say71 that faith was submission of the reason to mysteries1 or acceptance of ,scripture as an historical document1 ,i should know perfectly well what you meant2 that is information3 but when you say1 that faith which justifies is an apprehension of ,christ1 that it is not living faith1 or fruitful faith1 or operative1 but a something which in fact and actually is distinct from these1 ,i confess ,i feel perplexed4 ,freeborn wished to be out of the argument4 ,oh1 he said1 if you really once experienced the power of faith--how it changes the heart1 enlightens the eyes1 gives a new spiritual taste1 a new sense to the soul2 if you once knew what it was to be blind1 and then to see1 you would not ask for definitions4 ,strangers need verbal descriptions2 the heirs of the kingdom enjoy4 ,oh1 if you could but be persuaded to put off high imaginations2 to strip yourself of your proud self1 and to experience in yourself the wonderful change1 you would live in praise and thanksgiving1 instead of argument and criticism4 ,charles was touched by his warmth2 ,but1 he said1 we ought to act by reason2 and ,i don't see that ,i have more1 or so much1 reason to listen to you1 as to listen to the ,roman ,catholic1 who tells me ,i cannot possibly have that certainty of faith before believing1 which on believing will be divinely given me4 ,surely1 said ,freeborn1 with a grave face1 you would not compare the spiritual ,christian1 such as ,luther1 holding his cardinal doctrine about justification1 to any such formal1 legal1 superstitious devotee as ,popery can make1 with its carnal rites and quack remedies1 which never really cleanse the soul or reconcile it to ,god8 ,i don't like you to talk so1 said ,reding2 ,i know very little about the real nature of ,popery2 but when ,i was a boy ,i was once1 by chance1 in a ,roman ,catholic chapel2 and ,i really never saw such devotion in my life--the people all on their knees1 and most earnestly attentive to what was going on4 ,i did not understand what that was2 but ,i am sure1 had you been there1 you never would have called their religion1 be it right or wrong1 an outward form or carnal ordinance4 ,freeborn said it deeply pained him to hear such sentiments1 and to find that ,charles was so tainted with the errors of the day2 and he began1 not with much tact1 to talk of the ,papal ,antichrist1 and would have got off to prophecy1 had ,charles said a word to afford fuel for discussion4 ,as he kept silence1 ,freeborn's zeal burnt out1 and there was a break in the conversation4 ,after a time1 ,reding ventured to begin again4 ,if ,i understand you1 he said1 faith carries its own evidence with it4 ,just as ,i eat my bread at breakfast without hesitation about its wholesomeness1 so1 when ,i have really faith1 ,i know it beyond mistake1 and need not look out for tests of it8 ,precisely so1 said ,freeborn2 you begin to see what ,i mean2 you grow4 ,the soul is enlightened to see that it has real faith4 ,but how1 asked ,charles1 are we to rescue those from their dangerous mistake1 who think they have faith1 while they have not8 ,is there no way in which they can find out that they are under a delusion8 ,it is not wonderful1 said ,freeborn1 though there be no way4 ,there are many self-deceivers in the world4 ,some men are self-righteous1 trust in their works1 and think they are safe when they are in a state of perdition2 no formal rules can be given by which their reason might for certain detect their mistake4 ,and so of false faith4 ,well1 it does seem to me wonderful1 said ,charles1 that there is no natural and obvious warning provided against this delusion2 wonderful that false faith should be so exactly like true faith that there is nothing to determine their differences from each other4 ,effects imply causes3 if one apprehension of ,christ leads to good works1 and another does not1 there must be something in the one which is not in the other4 ,what is a false apprehension of ,christ wanting in1 which a true apprehension has8 ,the word apprehension is so vague2 it conveys no definite idea to me1 yet justification depends on it4 ,is a false apprehension1 for instance1 wanting in repentance and amendment8 ,no1 no1 said ,freeborn2 true faith is complete without conversion2 conversion follows2 but faith is the root4 ,is it the love of ,god which distinguishes true faith from false8 ,love8 answered ,freeborn2 you should read what ,luther says in his celebrated comment on the ,galatians4 ,he calls such a doctrine 'pestilens figmentum1' 'diaboli portentum2' and cries out against the ,papists1 ',pereant sophist cum su maledict gloss6' ,then it differs from false faith in nothing4 ,not so1 said ,freeborn2 it differs from it in its fruits3 ',by their fruits ye shall know them4' ,this is coming round to the same point again1 said ,charles2 fruits come after2 but a man1 it seems1 is to take comfort in his justification before fruits come1 before he knows that his faith will produce them4 ,good works are the necessary fruits of faith1 said ,freeborn2 so says the ,article4 ,charles made no answer1 but said to himself1 ,my good friend here certainly has not the clearest of heads2 then aloud1 ,well1 ,i despair of getting at the bottom of the subject4 ,of course1 answered ,freeborn1 with an air of superiority1 though in a mild tone1 it is a very simple principle1 ',fides justificat ante et sine charitate2' but it requires a ,divine light to embrace it4 ,they walked awhile in silence2 then1 as the day was now closing in1 they turned homewards1 and parted company when they came to the ,clarendon4 ,,chapter ,,xvii4 ,freeborn was not the person to let go a young man like ,charles without another effort to gain him2 and in a few days he invited him to take tea at his lodgings4 ,charles went at the appointed time1 through the wet and cold of a dreary ,november evening1 and found five or six men already assembled4 ,he had got into another world2 faces1 manners1 speeches1 all were strange1 and savoured neither of ,eton1 which was his own school1 nor of ,oxford itself4 ,he was introduced1 and found the awkwardness of a new acquaintance little relieved by the conversation which went on4 ,it was a dropping fire of serious remarks2 with pauses1 relieved only by occasional ahems1 the sipping of tea1 the sound of spoons falling against the saucers1 and the blind shifting of chairs as the flurried servant-maid of the lodgings suddenly came upon them from behind1 with the kettle for the teapot1 or toast for the table4 ,there was no nature or elasticity in the party1 but a great intention to be profitable4 ,have you seen the last ,spiritual ,journal8 asked ,no4 #a of ,no4 #b in a low voice4 ,no4 #b had just read it4 ,a very remarkable article that1 said ,no4 #a1 upon the deathbed of the ,pope4 ,no one is beyond hope1 answered ,no4 #b4 ,i have heard of it1 but not seen it1 said ,no4 #c4 ,a pause4 ,what is it about8 asked ,reding4 ,the late ,pope ,sixtus the ,sixteenth1 said ,no4 #c2 he seems to have died a believer4 ,a sensation4 ,charles looked as if he wished to know more4 ,the ,journal gives it on excellent authority1 said ,no4 #b2 ,mr4 ,o',niggins1 the agent for the ,roman ,priest ,conversion ,branch ,tract ,society1 was in ,rome during his last illness4 ,he solicited an audience with the ,pope1 which was granted to him4 ,he at once began to address him on the necessity of a change of heart1 belief in the one ,hope of sinners1 and abandonment of all creature mediators4 ,he announced to him the glad tidings1 and assured him there was pardon for all4 ,he warned him against the figment of baptismal regeneration2 and then1 proceeding to apply the word1 he urged him1 though in the eleventh hour1 to receive the ,bible1 the whole ,bible1 and nothing but the ,bible4 ,the ,pope listened with marked attention1 and displayed considerable emotion4 ,when it was ended1 he answered ,mr4 ,o',niggins that it was his fervent hope that they two would not die without finding themselves in one communion1 or something of the sort4 ,he declared moreover1 what was astonishing1 that he put his sole trust in ,christ1 'the source of all merit1' as he expressed it--a remarkable phrase4 ,in what language was the conversation carried on8 asked ,reding4 ,it is not stated1 answered ,no4 #b2 but ,i am pretty sure ,mr4 ,o',niggins is a good ,french scholar4 ,it does not seem to me1 said ,charles1 that the ,pope's admissions are greater than those made continually by certain members of our own ,church1 who are nevertheless accused of ,popery4 ,but they are extorted from such persons1 said ,freeborn1 while the ,pope's were voluntary4 ,the one party go back into darkness1 said ,no4 #c2 the ,pope was coming forward into light4 ,one ought to interpret everything for the best in a real ,papist1 said ,freeborn1 and everything for the worst in a ,puseyite4 ,that is both charity and common sense4 ,this was not all1 continued ,no4 #b2 he called together the ,cardinals1 protested that he earnestly desired ,god's glory1 said that inward religion was all in all1 and forms were nothing without a contrite heart1 and that he trusted soon to be in ,paradise--which1 you know1 was a denial of the doctrine of ,purgatory4 ,a brand from the burning1 ,i do hope1 said ,no4 #c4 ,it has frequently been observed1 said ,no4 #d1 nay it has struck me myself1 that the way to convert ,romanists is first to convert the ,pope4 ,it is a sure way1 at least1 said ,charles timidly1 afraid he was saying too much2 but his irony was not discovered4 ,man cannot do it1 said ,freeborn2 it's the power of faith4 ,faith can be vouchsafed even to the greatest sinners4 ,you see now1 perhaps1 he said1 turning to ,charles1 better than you did1 what ,i meant by faith the other day4 ,this poor old man could have no merit2 he had passed a long life in opposing the ,cross4 ,do your difficulties continue8 ,charles had thought over their former conversation very carefully several times1 and he answered1 ,why1 ,i don't think they do to the same extent4 ,freeborn looked pleased4 ,i mean1 he said1 that the idea hangs together better than ,i thought it did at first4 ,freeborn looked puzzled4 ,charles1 slightly colouring1 was obliged to proceed1 amid the profound silence of the whole party4 ,you said1 you know1 that justifying faith was without love or any other grace besides itself1 and that no one could at all tell what it was1 except afterwards1 from its fruits2 that there was no test by which a person could examine himself1 whether or not he was deceiving himself when he thought he had faith1 so that good and bad might equally be taking to themselves the promises and the privileges peculiar to the gospel4 ,i thought this a hard doctrine certainly at first2 but1 then1 afterwards it struck me that faith is perhaps a result of a previous state of mind1 a blessed result of a blessed state1 and therefore may be considered the reward of previous obedience2 whereas sham faith1 or what merely looks like faith1 is a judicial punishment4 ,in proportion as the drift of the former part of this speech was uncertain1 so was the conclusion very distinct4 ,there was no mistake1 and an audible emotion4 ,there is no such thing as previous merit1 said ,no4 #a2 all is of grace4 ,not merit1 ,i know1 said ,charles1 but---- ,we must not bring in the doctrine of de condigno or de congruo1 said ,no4 #b4 ,but surely1 said ,charles1 it is a cruel thing to say to the unlearned and the multitude1 ',believe1 and you are at once saved2 do not wait for fruits1 rejoice at once1' and neither to accompany this announcement by any clear description of what faith is1 nor to secure them by previous religious training against self-deception6 ,that is the very gloriousness of the doctrine1 said ,freeborn1 that it is preached to the worst of mankind4 ,it says1 ',come as you are2 don't attempt to make yourselves better4 ,believe that salvation is yours1 and it is yours3 good works follow after4' ,on the contrary1 said ,charles1 continuing his argument1 when it is said that justification follows upon baptism1 we have an intelligible something pointed out1 which every one can ascertain4 ,baptism is an external unequivocal token2 whereas that a man has this secret feeling called faith1 no one but himself can be a witness1 and he is not an unbiassed one4 ,reding had at length succeeded in throwing that dull tea-table into a state of great excitement4 ,my dear friend1 said ,freeborn1 ,i had hoped better things2 in a little while1 ,i hope1 you will see things differently4 ,baptism is an outward rite2 what is there1 can there be1 spiritual1 holy1 or heavenly in baptism8 ,but you tell me faith too is not spiritual1 said ,charles4 ,i tell you6 cried ,freeborn1 when8 ,well1 said ,charles1 somewhat puzzled1 at least you do not think it holy4 ,freeborn was puzzled in his turn4 ,if it is holy1 continued ,charles1 it has something good in it2 it has some worth2 it is not filthy rags4 ,all the good comes afterwards1 you said4 ,you said that its fruits were holy1 but that it was nothing at all itself4 ,there was a momentary silence1 and some agitation of thought4 ,oh1 faith is certainly a holy feeling1 said ,no4 #a4 ,no1 it is spiritual1 but not holy1 said ,no4 #b2 it is a mere act1 the apprehension of ,christ's merits4 ,it is seated in the affections1 said ,no4 #c2 faith is a feeling of the heart2 it is trust1 it is a belief that ,christ is my ,saviour2 all this is distinct from holiness4 ,holiness introduces self-righteousness4 ,faith is peace and joy1 but it is not holiness4 ,holiness comes after4 ,nothing can cause holiness but what is holy2 this is a sort of axiom1 said ,charles2 if the fruits are holy1 faith1 which is the root1 is holy4 ,you might as well say that the root of a rose is red1 and of a lily white1 said ,no4 #c4 ,pardon me1 ,reding1 said ,freeborn1 it is1 as my friend says1 an apprehension4 ,an apprehension is a seizing2 there is no more holiness in justifying faith1 than in the hand's seizing a substance which comes in its way4 ,this is ,luther's great doctrine in his ',commentary' on the ,galatians4 ,it is nothing in itself--it is a mere instrument2 this is what he teaches1 when he so vehemently resists the notion of justifying faith being accompanied by love4 ,i cannot assent to that doctrine1 said ,no4 #a2 it may be true in a certain sense1 but it throws stumbling-blocks in the way of seekers4 ,luther could not have meant what you say1 ,i am convinced4 ,justifying faith is always accompanied by love4 ,that is what ,i thought1 said ,charles4 ,that is the ,romish doctrine all over1 said ,no4 #b2 it is the doctrine of ,bull and ,taylor4 ,luther calls it1 'venenum infernale1' said ,freeborn4 ,it is just what the ,puseyites preach at present1 said ,no4 #c4 ,on the contrary1 said ,no4 #a1 it is the doctrine of ,melancthon4 ,look here1 he continued1 taking his pocketbook out of his pocket1 ,i have got his words down as ,shuffleton quoted them in the ,divinity-school the other day3 ',fides significat fiduciam2 in fiducid inest dilectio2 ergo etiam dilectione sumus justi4' ,three of the party cried ,impossible6 ,the paper was handed round in solemn silence4 ,calvin said the same1 said ,no4 #a triumphantly4 ,i think1 said ,no4 #d1 in a slow1 smooth1 sustained voice1 which contrasted with the animation which had suddenly inspired the conversation1 that the con-tro-ver-sy1 ahem1 may be easily arranged4 ,it is a question of words between ,luther and ,melancthon4 ,luther says1 ahem1 'faith is without love1' meaning1 'faith without love justifies4' ,melancthon1 on the other hand1 says1 ahem1 'faith is with love1' meaning1 'faith justifies with love4' ,now both are true3 for1 ahem1 faith-without-love justifies1 yet faith justifies not-without-love4 ,there was a pause1 while both parties digested this explanation4 ,on the contrary1 he added1 it is the ,romish doctrine that faith-with-love justifies4 ,freeborn expressed his dissent2 he thought this the doctrine of ,melancthon which ,luther condemned4 ,you mean1 said ,charles1 that justification is given to faith with love1 not to faith and love4 ,you have expressed my meaning1 said ,no4 #d4 ,and what is considered the difference between with and and8 asked ,charles4 ,no4 #d replied without hesitation1 ,faith is the instrument1 love the sine qu non4 ,nos4 #b and #c interposed with a protest2 they thought it legal to introduce the phrase sine qu non2 it was introducing conditions4 ,justification was unconditional4 ,but is not faith a condition8 asked ,charles4 ,certainly not1 said ,freeborn2 'condition' is a legal word4 ,how can salvation be free and full1 if it is conditional8 ,there are no conditions1 said ,no4 #c2 all must come from the heart4 ,we believe with the heart1 we love from the heart1 we obey with the heart2 not because we are obliged1 but because we have a new nature4 ,is there no obligation to obey8 said ,charles1 surprised4 ,no obligation to the regenerate1 answered ,no4 #c2 they are above obligation2 they are in a new state4 ,but surely ,christians are under a law1 said ,charles4 ,certainly not1 said ,no4 #b2 the law is done away in ,christ4 ,take care1 said ,no4 #a2 that borders on ,antinomianism4 ,not at all1 said ,freeborn2 an ,antinomian actually holds that he may break the law3 a spiritual believer only holds that he is not bound to keep it4 ,now they got into a fresh discussion among themselves2 and1 as it seemed as interminable as it was uninteresting1 ,reding took an opportunity to wish his host a good night1 and to slip away4 ,he never had much leaning towards the evangelical doctrine2 and ,freeborn and his friends1 who knew what they were holding a great deal better than the run of their party1 satisfied him that he had not much to gain by inquiring into that doctrine farther4 ,so they will vanish in consequence from our pages4 ,,chapter ,,xviii4 ,when ,charles got to his room he saw a letter from home lying on his table2 and1 to his alarm1 it had a deep black edge4 ,he tore it open4 ,alas1 it announced the sudden death of his dear father6 ,he had been ailing some weeks with the gout1 which at length had attacked his stomach1 and carried him off in a few hours4 ,o my poor dear ,charles1 ,i sympathize with you keenly all that long night1 and in that indescribable waking in the morning1 and that dreary day of travel which followed it6 ,by the afternoon you were at home4 ,o piercing change6 it was but six or seven weeks before that you had passed the same objects the reverse way1 with what different feelings1 and oh1 in what company1 as you made for the railway omnibus6 ,it was a grief not to be put into words2 and to meet mother1 sisters--and the ,dead6444 ,the funeral is over by some days2 ,charles is to remain at home the remainder of the term1 and does not return to ,oxford till towards the end of ,january4 ,the signs of grief have been put away2 the house looks cheerful as before2 the fire as bright1 the mirrors as clear1 the furniture as orderly2 the pictures are the same1 and the ornaments on the mantelpiece stand as they have stood1 and the ,french clock tells the hour1 as it has told it1 for years past4 ,the inmates of the parsonage wear1 it is most true1 the signs of a heavy bereavement2 but they converse as usual1 and on ordinary subjects2 they pursue the same employments1 they work1 they read1 they walk in the garden1 they dine4 ,there is no change except in the inward consciousness of an overwhelming loss4 ,he is not there1 not merely on this day or that1 for so it well might be2 he is not merely away1 but1 as they know well1 he is gone and will not return4 ,that he is absent now is but a token and a memorial to their minds that he will be absent always4 ,but especially at dinner2 ,charles had to take a place which he had sometimes filled1 but then as the deputy1 and in the presence of him whom now he succeeded4 ,his father1 being not much more than a middle-aged man1 had been accustomed to carve himself4 ,and when at the meal of the day ,charles looked up1 he had to encounter the troubled look of one1 who1 from her place at table1 had before her eyes a still more vivid memento of their common loss2--aliquid desideraverunt oculi4 ,mr4 ,reding had left his family well provided for2 and this1 though a real alleviation of their loss in the event1 perhaps augmented the pain of it at the moment4 ,he had ever been a kind indulgent father4 ,he was a most respectable clergyman of the old school2 pious in his sentiments1 a gentleman in his feelings1 exemplary in his social relations4 ,he was no reader1 and never had been in the way to gain theological knowledge2 he sincerely believed all that was in the ,prayer ,book1 but his sermons were very rarely doctrinal4 ,they were sensible1 manly discourses on the moral duties4 ,he administered ,holy ,communion at the three great festivals1 saw his ,bishop once or twice a year1 was on good terms with the country gentlemen in his neighbourhood1 was charitable to the poor1 hospitable in his housekeeping1 and was a staunch though not a violent supporter of the ,tory interest in his county4 ,he was incapable of anything harsh1 or petty1 or low1 or uncourteous2 and died esteemed by the great houses about him1 and lamented by his parishioners4 ,it was the first great grief poor ,charles had ever had1 and he felt it to be real4 ,how did the small anxieties which had of late teased him1 vanish before this tangible calamity6 ,he then understood the difference between what was real and what was not4 ,all the doubts1 inquiries1 surmises1 views1 which had of late haunted him on theological subjects1 seemed like so many shams1 which flitted before him in sun-bright hours1 but had no root in his inward nature1 and fell from him1 like the helpless ,december leaves1 in the hour of his affliction4 ,he felt now where his heart and his life lay4 ,his birth1 his parentage1 his education1 his home1 were great realities2 to these his being was united2 out of these he grew4 ,he felt he must be what ,providence had made him4 ,what is called the pursuit of truth1 seemed an idle dream4 ,he had great tangible duties to his father's memory1 to his mother and sisters1 to his position2 he felt sick of all theories1 as if they had taken him in2 and he secretly resolved never more to have anything to do with them4 ,let the world go on as it might1 happen what would to others1 his own place and his own path were clear4 ,he would go back to ,oxford1 attend steadily to his books1 put aside all distractions1 avoid bye-paths1 and do his best to acquit himself well in the schools4 ,the ,church of ,england as it was1 its ,articles1 bishops1 preachers1 professors1 had sufficed for much better persons than he was2 they were good enough for him4 ,he could not do better than imitate the life and death of his beloved father2 quiet years in the country at a distance from all excitements1 a round of pious1 useful works among the poor1 the care of a village school1 and at length the death of the righteous4 ,at the moment1 and for some time to come1 he had special duties towards his mother2 he wished1 as far as might be1 to supply to her the place of him she had lost4 ,she had great trials before her still2 if it was a grief to himself to leave ,hartley1 what would it be to her8 ,not many months would pass before she would have to quit a place ever dear1 and now sacred in her thoughts2 there was in store for her the anguish of dismantling the home of many years1 and the toil and whirl of packing2 a wearied head and an aching heart at a time when she would have most need of self-possession and energy4 ,such were the thoughts which came upon him again and again in those sorrowful weeks4 ,a leaf had been turned over in his life2 he could not be what he had been4 ,people come to man's estate at very different ages4 ,youngest sons in a family1 like monks in a convent1 may remain children till they have reached middle age2 but the elder1 should their father die prematurely1 are suddenly ripened into manhood1 when they are almost boys4 ,charles had left ,oxford a clever unformed youth2 he returned a man4 ,part ,,ii4 ,,chapter ,i4 ,about three miles from ,oxford a thickly-wooded village lies on the side of a steep1 long hill or chine1 looking over the ,berkshire woods1 and commanding a view of the many-turreted city itself4 ,over its broad summit once stretched a chestnut forest2 and now it is covered with the roots of trees1 or furze1 or soft turf4 ,the red sand which lies underneath contrasts with the green1 and adds to its brilliancy2 it drinks in1 too1 the rain greedily1 so that the wide common is nearly always fit for walking2 and the air1 unlike the heavy atmosphere of the ,university beneath it1 is fresh and bracing4 ,the gorse was still in bloom1 in the latter end of the month of ,june1 when ,reding and ,sheffield took up their abode in a small cottage at the upper end of this village--so hid with trees and girt in with meadows that for the stranger it was hard to find--there to pass their third and last ,long ,vacation before going into the schools4 ,a year and a half had passed since ,charles's great affliction1 and the time had not been unprofitably spent either by himself or his friend4 ,both had read very regularly1 and ,sheffield had gained the ,latin verse into the bargain4 ,charles had put all religious perplexities aside2 that is1 he knew of course many more persons of all parties than he did before1 and became better acquainted with their tenets and their characters1 but he did not dwell upon anything which he met with1 nor attempt to determine the merits or solve the difficulties of this or that question4 ,he took things as they came2 and1 while he gave his mind to his books1 he thankfully availed himself of the religious privileges which the ,college system afforded him4 ,nearly a year still remained before his examination2 and1 as ,mrs4 ,reding had not as yet fully arranged her plans1 but was still1 with her daughters1 passing from friend to friend1 he had listened to ,sheffield's proposal to take a tutor for the ,vacation1 and to find a site for their studies in the neighbourhood of ,oxford4 ,there was every prospect of their both obtaining the highest honours which the schools award3 they both were good scholars1 and clever men2 they had read regularly1 and had had the advantage of able lectures4 ,the side of the hill forms a large1 sweeping hollow or theatre just on one side of the village of ,horsley4 ,the two extreme points may be half a mile across2 but the distance is increased to one who follows the path which winds through the furze and fern along the ridge4 ,their tutor had been unable to find lodgings in the village2 and1 while the two young men lived on one extremity of the sweep we have been describing1 ,mr4 ,carlton1 who was not above three years older than they1 had planted himself at a farmhouse upon the other4 ,besides1 the farmhouse suited him better1 as being nearer to a hamlet which he was serving during the ,vacation4 ,i don't think you like ,carlton as well as ,i do1 said ,reding to ,sheffield1 as they lay on the green sward with some lighter classic in their hands1 waiting for dinner1 and watching their friend as he approached them from his lodgings4 ,he is to me so taking a man2 so equable1 so gentle1 so considerate--he brings people together1 and fills them with confidence in himself and friendly feeling towards each other1 more than any person ,i know4 ,you are wrong1 said ,sheffield1 if you think ,i don't value him extremely1 and love him too2 it's impossible not to love him4 ,but he's not the person quite to get influence over me4 ,he's too much of an ,anglican for you1 said ,reding4 ,not at all1 said ,sheffield1 except indirectly4 ,my quarrel with him is1 that he has many original thoughts1 and holds many profound truths in detail1 but is quite unable to see how they lie to each other1 and equally unable to draw consequences4 ,he never sees a truth until he touches it2 he is ever groping and feeling1 and1 as in hide-and-seek1 continually burns without discovering4 ,i know there are ten thousand persons who cannot see an inch before their nose1 and who can comfortably digest contradictions2 but ,carlton is really a clever man2 he is no common thinker2 this makes it so provoking4 ,when ,i write an essay for him--,i know ,i write obscurely1 and often do not bring out the sequence of my ideas in due order1 but1 so it is--he is sure to cut out the very thought or statement on which ,i especially pride myself1 on which the whole argument rests1 which binds every part together2 and he coolly tells me that it is extravagant or far-fetched--not seeing that by leaving it out he has made nonsense of the rest4 ,he is a man to rob an arch of its keystone1 and then quietly to build his house upon it4 ,ah1 your old failing again1 said ,reding2 a craving after views4 ,now1 what ,i like in ,carlton1 is that repose of his2--always saying enough1 never too much2 never boring you1 never taxing you2 always practical1 never in the clouds4 ,save me from a viewy man2 ,i could not live with him for a week1 present company always excepted4 ,now1 considering how hard ,i have read1 and how little ,i have talked this year past1 that is hard on me1 said ,sheffield4 ,did not ,i go to be one of old ,thruston's sixteen pupils1 last ,long8 ,he gave us capital feeds1 smoked with us1 and coached us in ,ethics and ,agamemnon4 ,he knows his books by heart1 can repeat his plays backwards1 and weighs out his ,aristotle by grains and pennyweights2 but1 for generalizations1 ideas1 poetry1 oh1 it was desolation--it was a darkness which could be felt6 ,and you stayed there just six weeks out of four months1 ,sheffield1 answered ,reding4 ,carlton had now joined them1 and1 after introductory greetings on both sides1 he too threw himself upon the turf4 ,sheffield said3 ,reding and ,i were disputing just now whether ,nicias was a party man4 ,of course you first defined your terms1 said ,carlton4 ,well1 said ,sheffield1 ,i mean by a party man1 one who not only belongs to a party1 but who has the animus of party4 ,nicias did not make a party1 he found one made4 ,he found himself at the head of it2 he was no more a party man than a prince who was born the head of his state4 ,i should agree with you1 said ,carlton2 but still ,i should like to know what a party is1 and what a party man4 ,a party1 said ,sheffield1 is merely an extra-constitutional or extra-legal body4 ,party action1 said ,charles1 is the exertion of influence instead of law4 ,but supposing1 ,reding1 there is no law existing in the quarter where influence exerts itself8 asked ,carlton4 ,charles had to explain3 ,certainly1 he said1 the ,state did not legislate for all possible contingencies4 ,for instance1 continued ,carlton1 a prime minister1 ,i have understood1 is not acknowledged in the ,constitution2 he exerts influence beyond the law1 but not1 in consequence1 against any existing law2 and it would be absurd to talk of him as a party man4 ,parliamentary parties1 too1 are recognised among us1 said ,sheffield1 though extra-constitutional4 ,we call them parties2 but who would call the ,duke of ,devonshire or ,lord ,john ,russell1 in a bad sense1 a party man8 ,it seems to me1 said ,carlton1 that the formation of a party is merely a recurrence to the original mode of forming into society4 ,you recollect ,deioces2 he formed a party4 ,he gained influence2 he laid the foundation of social order4 ,law certainly begins in influence1 said ,reding1 for it presupposes a lawgiver2 afterwards it supersedes influence2 from that time the exertion of influence is a sign of party4 ,too broadly said1 as you yourself just now allowed1 said ,carlton3 you should say that law begins to supersede influence1 and that in proportion as it supersedes it1 does the exertion of influence involve party action4 ,for instance1 has not the ,crown an immense personal influence8 we talk of the ,court party2 yet it does not interfere with law1 it is intended to conciliate the people to the law4 ,but it is recognized by law and constitution1 said ,charles1 as was the ,dictatorship4 ,well1 then1 take the influence of the clergy1 answered ,carlton2 we make much of that influence as a principle supplemental to the law1 and as a support to the law1 yet not created or defined by the law4 ,the law does not recognize what some one calls truly a 'resident gentleman' in every parish4 ,influence1 then1 instead of law is not necessarily the action of party4 ,so again1 national character is an influence distinct from the law1 said ,sheffield1 according to the line1 ',quid leges sine moribus8' ,law1 said ,carlton1 is but gradually formed and extended4 ,well1 then1 so far as there is no law1 there is the reign of influence2 there is party without of necessity party action4 ,this is the justification of ,whigs and ,tories at the present day2 to supply1 as ,aristotle says on another subject1 the defects of the law4 ,charles ,i4 exerted a regal1 ,walpole a ministerial influence2 but influence1 not law1 was the operating principle in both cases4 ,the object or the means might be wrong1 but the process could not be called party action4 ,you would justify1 then1 said ,charles1 the associations or confraternities which existed1 for instance1 in ,athens2 not1 that is1 if they 'took the law into their own hands1' as the phrase goes1 but if there was no law to take1 or if there was no constituted authority to take it of right4 ,it was a recurrence to the precedent of ,deioces4 ,manzoni gives a striking instance of this in the beginning of his ,promessi ,sposi1 said ,sheffield1 when he describes that protection1 which law ought to give to the weak1 as being in the sixteenth century sought and found almost exclusively in factions or companies4 ,i don't recollect particulars1 but he describes the clergy as busy in extending their immunities1 the nobility their privileges1 the army their exemptions1 the trades and artisans their guilds4 ,even the lawyers formed a union1 and medical men a corporation4 ,thus constitutions are gradually moulded and perfected1 said ,carlton1 by extra-constitutional bodies1 either coming under the protection of law1 or else being superseded by the law's providing for their objects4 ,in the middle ages the ,church was a vast extra-constitutional body4 ,the ,german and ,anglo-,norman sovereigns sought to bring its operation under the law2 modern parliaments have superseded its operation by law4 ,then the ,state wished to gain the right of investitures2 now the ,state marries1 registers1 manages the poor1 exercises ecclesiastical jurisdiction instead of the ,church4 ,this will make ostracism parallel to the ,reformation or the ,revolution1 said ,sheffield2 there is a battle of influence against influence1 and one gets rid of the other2 law or constitution does not come into question1 but the will of the people or of the court ejects1 whether the too-gifted individual1 or the monarch1 or the religion4 ,what was not under the law could not be dealt with1 had no claim to be dealt with1 by the law4 ,a thought has sometimes struck me1 said ,reding1 which falls in with what you have been saying4 ,in the last half-century there has been a gradual formation of the popular party in the ,state1 which now tends to be acknowledged as constitutional1 or is already so acknowledged4 ,my father never could endure newspapers--,i mean the system of newspapers2 he said it was a new power in the ,state4 ,i am sure ,i am not defending what he was thinking of1 the many bad proceedings1 the wretched principles1 the arrogance and tyranny of newspaper writers1 but ,i am trying the subject by the test of your theory4 ,the great body of the people are very imperfectly represented in parliament2 the ,commons are not their voice1 but the voice of certain great interests4 ,consequently the press comes in--to do that which the constitution does not do--to form the people into a vast mutual-protection association4 ,and this is done by the same right that ,deioces had to collect people about him2 it does not interfere with the existing territory of the law1 but builds where the constitution has not made provision4 ,it tends1 then1 ultimately to be recognised by the constitution4 ,there is another remarkable phenomenon of a similar kind now in process of development1 said ,carlton1 and that is1 the influence of agitation4 ,i really am not politician enough to talk of it as good or bad2 one's natural instinct is against it2 but it may be necessary4 ,however1 agitation is getting to be recognised as the legitimate instrument by which the masses make their desires known1 and secure the accomplishment of them4 ,just as a bill passes in parliament1 after certain readings1 discussions1 speeches1 votings1 and the like1 so the process by which an act of the popular will becomes law is a long agitation1 issuing in petitions1 previous to and concurrent with the parliamentary process4 ,the first instance of this was about fifty or sixty years ago1 when 444 ,hallo6 he cried1 who is this cantering up to us8 ,i declare it is old ,vincent1 said ,sheffield4 ,he is to come to dine1 said ,charles1 just in time4 ,how are you1 ,carlton8 cried ,vincent4 ,how d'ye do1 ,mr4 ,sheffield8 ,mr4 ,reding1 how d'ye do8 acting up to your name1 ,i suppose1 for you were ever a reading man4 ,for myself1 he continued1 ,i am just now an eating man1 and am come to dine with you1 if you will let me4 ,have you a place for my horse8 ,there was a farmer near who could lend a stable2 so the horse was led off by ,charles2 and the rider1 without any delay--for the hour did not admit it--entered the cottage to make his brief preparation for dinner4 ,,chapter ,,ii4 ,in a few minutes all met together at table in the small parlour1 which was room of all work in the cottage4 ,they had not the whole house1 limited as were its resources2 for it was also the habitation of a gardener1 who took his vegetables to the ,oxford market1 and whose wife 7what is called7 did for his lodgers4 ,dinner was suited to the apartment1 apartment to the dinner4 ,the book-table had been hastily cleared for a cloth1 not over white1 and1 in consequence1 the sole remaining table1 which acted as sideboard1 displayed a relay of plates and knives and forks1 in the midst of octavos and duodecimos1 bound and unbound1 piled up and thrown about in great variety of shapes4 ,the other ornaments of this side-table were an ink-glass1 some quires of large paper1 a straw hat1 a gold watch1 a clothes-brush1 some bottles of ginger-beer1 a pair of gloves1 a case of cigars1 a neck-handkerchief1 a shoe-horn1 a small slate1 a large clasp-knife1 a hammer1 and a handsome inlaid writing-desk4 ,i like these rides into the country1 said ,vincent1 as they began eating1 the country loses its effect on me when ,i live in it1 as you do2 but it is exquisite as a zest4 ,visit it1 do not live in it1 if you would enjoy it4 ,country air is a stimulus2 stimulants1 ,mr4 ,reding1 should not be taken too often4 ,you are of the country party4 ,i am of no party4 ,i go here and there--like the bee--,i taste of everything1 ,i depend on nothing4 ,sheffield said that this was rather belonging to all parties than to none4 ,that is impossible1 answered ,vincent2 ,i hold it to be altogether impossible4 ,you can't belong to two parties2 there's no fear of it2 you might as well attempt to be in two places at once4 ,to be connected with both is to be united with neither4 ,depend on it1 my young friend1 antagonist principles correct each other4 ,it's a piece of philosophy which one day you will thank me for1 when you are older4 ,i have heard of an ,american illustration of this1 said ,sheffield1 which certainly confirms what you say1 sir4 ,professors in the ,united ,states are sometimes of two or three religions at once1 according as we regard them historically1 personally1 or officially4 ,in this way1 perhaps1 they hit the mean4 ,vincent1 though he so often excited a smile in others1 had no humour himself1 and never could make out the difference between irony and earnest4 ,accordingly he was brought to a stand4 ,charles came to his relief4 ,before dinner1 he said1 we were sporting what you will consider a great paradox1 ,i am afraid2 that parties were good things1 or rather necessary things4 ,you don't do me justice1 answered ,vincent1 if this is what you think ,i deny4 ,i halve your words2 parties are not good1 but necessary2 like snails1 ,i neither envy them their small houses1 nor try to lodge in them myself4 ,you mean1 said ,carlton1 that parties do our dirty work2 they are our beasts of burden2 we could not get on without them1 but we need not identify ourselves with them2 we may keep aloof4 ,that1 said ,sheffield1 is something like those religious professors who say that it is sinful to engage in worldly though necessary occupations2 but that the reprobate undertake them1 and work for the elect4 ,there will always be persons enough in the world who like to be party men1 without being told to be so1 said ,vincent2 it's our business to turn them to account1 to use them1 but to keep aloof4 ,i take it1 all parties are partly right1 only they go too far4 ,i borrow from each1 ,i co-operate with each1 as far as each is right1 and no further4 ,thus ,i get good from all1 and ,i do good to all2 for ,i countenance each1 so far as it is true4 ,mr4 ,carlton meant more than that1 sir1 said ,sheffield2 he meant that the existence of parties was not only necessary and useful1 but even right4 ,mr4 ,carlton is not the man to make paradoxes1 said ,vincent2 ,i suspect he would not defend the extreme opinions1 which1 alas1 exist among us at present1 and are progressing every day4 ,i was speaking of political parties1 said ,carlton1 but ,i am disposed to extend what ,i said to religious also4 ,but1 my good ,carlton1 said ,vincent1 ,scripture speaks against religious parties4 ,certainly ,i don't wish to oppose ,scripture1 said ,carlton1 and ,i speak under correction of ,scripture2 but ,i say this1 that whenever and wherever a church does not decide religious points1 so far does it leave the decision to individuals2 and1 since you can't expect all people to agree together1 you must have different opinions2 and the expression of those different opinions1 by the various persons who hold them1 is what is called a party4 ,mr4 ,carlton has been great1 sir1 on the general subject before dinner1 said ,sheffield1 and now he draws the corollary1 that whenever there are parties in a church1 a church may thank itself for them4 ,they are the certain effect of private judgment2 and the more private judgment you have1 the more parties you will have4 ,you are reduced1 then1 to this alternative1 no toleration or else party2 and you must recognise party1 unless you refuse toleration4 ,sheffield words it more strongly than ,i should do1 said ,carlton2 but really ,i mean pretty much what he says4 ,take the case of the ,roman ,catholics2 they have decided many points of theology1 many they have not decided2 and wherever there is no ecclesiastical decision1 there they have at once a party1 or what they call a 'school2' and when the ecclesiastical decision at length appears1 then the party ceases4 ,thus you have the ,dominicans and ,franciscans contending about the ,immaculate ,conception2 they went on contending because authority did not at once decide the question4 ,on the other hand1 when ,jesuits and ,jansenists disputed on the question of grace1 the ,pope gave it in favour of the ,jesuits1 and the controversy at once came to an end4 ,surely1 said ,vincent1 my good and worthy friend1 the ,rev4 ,charles ,carlton1 ,fellow of ,leicester1 and sometime ,ireland ,essayist1 is not preferring the ,church of ,rome to the ,church of ,england8 ,carlton laughed2 ,you won't suspect me of that1 ,i think1 he answered2 no2 all ,i say is1 that our ,church1 from its constitution1 admits1 approves of private judgment2 and that private judgment1 so far forth as it is admitted1 necessarily involves parties2 the slender private judgment allowed in the ,church of ,rome admitting occasional or local parties1 and the ample private judgment allowed in our ,church recognizing parties as an element of the ,church4 ,well1 well1 my good ,carlton1 said ,vincent1 frowning and looking wise1 yet without finding anything particular to say4 ,you mean1 said ,sheffield1 if ,i understand you1 that it is a piece of mawkish hypocrisy to shake the head and throw up the eyes at ,mr4 this or that for being the head of a religious party1 while we return thanks for our pure and reformed ,church2 because purity1 reformation1 apostolicity1 toleration1 all these boasts and glories of the ,church of ,england1 establish party action and party spirit as a cognate blessing1 for which we should be thankful also4 ,party is one of our greatest ornaments1 ,mr4 ,vincent4 ,a sentiment or argument does not lose in your hands1 said ,carlton2 but what ,i meant was simply that party leaders are not dishonourable in the ,church1 unless ,lord ,john ,russell or ,sir ,robert ,peel hold a dishonourable post in the ,state4 ,my young friend1 said ,vincent1 finishing his mutton1 and pushing his plate from him1 my two young friends--for ,carlton is not much older than ,mr4 ,sheffield--may you learn a little more judgment4 ,when you have lived to my age 7viz4 two or three years beyond ,carlton's7 you will learn sobriety in all things4 ,mr4 ,reding1 another glass of wine4 ,see that poor child1 how she totters under the gooseberry-pudding2 up1 ,mr4 ,sheffield1 and help her4 ,the old woman cooks better than ,i had expected4 ,how do you get your butcher's meat here1 ,carlton8 ,i should have made the attempt to bring you a fine jack ,i saw in our kitchen1 but ,i thought you would have no means of cooking it4 ,dinner over1 the party rose1 and strolled out on the green4 ,another subject commenced4 ,was not ,mr4 ,willis of ,st4 ,george's a friend of yours1 ,mr4 ,reding8 asked ,vincent4 ,charles started2 ,i knew him a little 444 ,i have seen him several times4 ,you know he left us1 continued ,vincent1 and joined the ,church of ,rome4 ,well1 it is credibly reported that he is returning4 ,a melancholy history1 anyhow1 answered ,charles2 most melancholy1 if this is true4 ,rather1 said ,vincent1 setting him right1 as if he had simply made a verbal mistake1 a most happy termination1 you mean2 the only thing that was left for him to do4 ,you know he went abroad4 ,any one who is inclined to ,romanize should go abroad2 ,carlton1 we shall be sending you soon4 ,here things are softened down2 there you see the ,church of ,rome as it really is4 ,i have been abroad1 and should know it4 ,such heaps of beggars in the streets of ,rome and ,naples2 so much squalidness and misery2 no cleanliness2 an utter want of comfort2 and such superstition2 and such an absence of all true and evangelical seriousness4 ,they push and fight while ,mass is going on2 they jabber their prayers at railroad speed2 they worship the ,virgin as a goddess2 and they see miracles at the corner of every street4 ,their images are awful1 and their ignorance prodigious4 ,well1 ,willis saw all this2 and ,i have it on good authority1 he said mysteriously1 that he is thoroughly disgusted with the whole affair1 and is coming back to us4 ,is he in ,england now8 asked ,reding4 ,he is said to be with his mother in ,devonshire1 who1 perhaps you know1 is a widow2 and he has been too much for her4 ,poor silly fellow1 who would not take the advice of older heads6 ,a friend once sent him to me2 ,i could make nothing of him4 ,i couldn't understand his arguments1 nor he mine4 ,it was no good2 he would make trial himself1 and he has caught it4 ,there was a short pause in the conversation2 then ,vincent added1 ,but such perversions1 ,carlton1 ,i suppose1 thinks to be as necessary as parties in a pure ,protestant ,church4 ,i can't say you satisfy me1 ,carlton1 said ,charles2 and ,i am happy to have the sanction of ,mr4 ,vincent4 ,did political party make men rebels1 then would political party be indefensible2 so is religious1 if it leads to apostasy4 ,you know the ,whigs were accused in the last war1 said ,sheffield1 of siding with ,bonaparte2 accidents of this kind don't affect general rules or standing customs4 ,well1 independent of this1 answered ,charles1 ,i cannot think religious parties defensible on the considerations which justify political4 ,there is1 to my feelings1 something despicable in heading a religious party4 ,was ,loyola despicable1 asked ,sheffield1 or ,st4 ,dominic8 ,they had the sanction of their superiors1 said ,charles4 ,you are hard on parties surely1 ,reding1 said ,carlton2 a man may individually write1 preach1 and publish what he believes to be the truth1 without offence2 why1 then1 does it begin to be wrong when he does so together with others8 ,party tactics are a degradation of the truth1 said ,charles4 ,we have heard1 ,i believe1 before now1 said ,carlton1 of ,athanasius against the whole world1 and the whole world against ,athanasius4 ,well1 answered ,charles1 ,i will but say this1 that a party man must be very much above par or below it4 ,there1 again1 ,i don't agree1 said ,carlton2 you are supposing the leader of a party to be conscious of what he is doing2 and1 being conscious1 he may be1 as you say1 either much above or below the average2 but a man need not realise to himself that he is forming a party4 ,that's more difficult to conceive1 said ,vincent1 than any statement which has been hazarded this afternoon4 ,not at all difficult1 answered ,carlton3 do you mean that there is only one way of gaining influence8 surely there is such a thing as unconscious influence8 ,i'd as easily believe1 said ,vincent1 that a beauty does not know her charms4 ,that's narrow-minded1 retorted ,carlton3 a man sits in his room and writes1 and does not know what people think of him4 ,i'd believe it less1 persisted ,vincent3 beauty is a fact2 influence is an effect4 ,effects imply agents1 agency1 will and consciousness4 ,there are different modes of influence1 interposed ,sheffield2 influence is often spontaneous and almost necessary4 ,like the light on ,moses' face1 said ,carlton4 ,bonaparte is said to have had an irresistible smile1 said ,sheffield4 ,what is beauty itself1 but a spontaneous influence8 added ,carlton2 don't you recollect 'the lovely young ,lavinia' in ,thomson8 ,well1 gentlemen1 said ,vincent1 when ,i am ,chancellor ,i will give a prize essay on ',moral ,influence1 its ,kinds and ,causes1' and ,mr4 ,sheffield shall get it2 and as to ,carlton1 he shall be my ,poetry ,professor when ,i am ,convocation4 ,you will say1 good reader1 that the party took a very short stroll on the hill1 when we tell you that they were now stooping their heads at the lowly door of the cottage2 but the terse littera scripta abridges wondrously the rambling vox emissa2 and there might be other things said in the course of the conversation which history has not condescended to record4 ,anyhow1 we are obliged now to usher them again into the room where they had dined1 and where they found tea ready laid1 and the kettle speedily forthcoming4 ,the bread and butter were excellent2 and the party did justice to them1 as if they had not lately dined4 ,i see you keep your tea in tin cases1 said ,vincent2 ,i am for glass4 ,don't spare the tea1 ,mr4 ,reding2 ,oxford men do not commonly fail on that head4 ,lord ,bacon says the first and best juice of the grape1 like the primary1 purest1 and best comment on ,scripture1 is not pressed and forced out1 but consists of a natural exudation4 ,this is the case in ,italy at this day2 and they call the juice 'lagrima4' ,so it is with tea1 and with coffee too4 ,put in a large quantity1 pour on the water1 turn off the liquor2 turn it off at once--don't let it stand2 it becomes poisonous4 ,i am a great patron of tea2 the poet truly says1 ',it cheers1 but not inebriates4' ,it has sometimes a singular effect upon my nerves2 it makes me whistle--so people tell me2 ,i am not conscious of it4 ,sometimes1 too1 it has a dyspeptic effect4 ,i find it does not do to take it too hot2 we ,english drink our liquors too hot4 ,it is not a ,french failing2 no1 indeed4 ,in ,france1 that is1 in the country1 you get nothing for breakfast but acid wine and grapes2 this is the other extreme1 and has before now affected me awfully4 ,yet acids1 too1 have a soothing sedative effect upon one2 lemonade especially4 ,but nothing suits me so well as tea4 ,carlton1 he continued mysteriously1 do you know the late ,dr4 ,baillie's preventive of the flatulency which tea produces8 ,mr4 ,sheffield1 do you8 ,both gave up4 ,camomile flowers2 a little camomile1 not a great deal2 some people chew rhubarb1 but a little camomile in the tea is not perceptible4 ,don't make faces1 ,mr4 ,sheffield2 a little1 ,i say2 a little of everything is best--ne quid nimis4 ,avoid all extremes4 ,so it is with sugar4 ,mr4 ,reding1 you are putting too much into your tea4 ,i lay down this rule3 sugar should not be a substantive ingredient in tea1 but an adjective2 that is1 tea has a natural roughness2 sugar is only intended to remove that roughness2 it has a negative office2 when it is more than this1 it is too much4 ,well1 ,carlton1 it is time for me to be seeing after my horse4 ,i fear he has not had so pleasant an afternoon as ,i4 ,i have enjoyed myself much in your suburban villa4 ,what a beautiful moon6 but ,i have some very rough ground to pass over4 ,i daren't canter over the ruts with the gravel-pits close before me4 ,mr4 ,sheffield1 do me the favour to show me the way to the stable4 ,good-bye to you1 ,carlton2 good night1 ,mr4 ,reding4 ,when they were left to themselves ,charles asked ,carlton if he really meant to acquit of party spirit the present party leaders in ,oxford4 ,you must not misunderstand me1 answered he2 ,i do not know much of them1 but ,i know they are persons of great merit and high character1 and ,i wish to think the best of them4 ,they are most unfairly attacked1 that is certain2 however1 they are accused of wishing to make a display1 of aiming at influence and power1 of loving agitation1 and so on4 ,i cannot deny that some things they have done have an unpleasant appearance1 and give plausibility to the charge4 ,i wish they had1 at certain times1 acted otherwise4 ,meanwhile1 ,i do think it but fair to keep in view that the existence of parties is no fault of theirs4 ,they are but claiming their birthright as ,protestants4 ,when the ,church does not speak1 others will speak instead2 and learned men have the best right to speak4 ,again1 when learned men speak1 others will attend to them2 and thus the formation of a party is rather the act of those who follow than of those who lead4 ,,chapter ,,iii4 ,sheffield had some friends residing at ,chalton1 a neighbouring village1 with a scholar of ,st4 ,michael's1 who had a small cure with a house on it4 ,one of them1 indeed1 was known to ,reding also1 being no other than our friend ,white1 who was going into the schools1 and during the last six months had been trying to make up for the time he had wasted in the first years of his residence4 ,charles had lost sight of him1 or nearly so1 since he first knew him2 and at their time of life so considerable an interval could not elapse without changes in the character for good or evil1 or for both4 ,carlton and ,charles1 who were a good deal thrown together by ,sheffield's frequent engagements with the ,chalton party1 were just turning homewards in their walk one evening when they fell in with ,white1 who had been calling at ,mr4 ,bolton's in ,oxford1 and was returning4 ,they had not proceeded very far before they were joined by ,sheffield and ,mr4 ,barry1 the curate of ,chalton2 and thus the party was swelled to five4 ,so you are going to lose ,upton8 said ,barry to ,reding2 a capital tutor2 you can ill spare him4 ,who comes into his place8 ,we don't know1 answered ,charles2 the ,principal will call up one of the ,junior ,fellows from the country1 ,i believe4 ,oh1 but you won't get a man like ,upton1 said ,carlton2 he knew his subject so thoroughly4 ,his lecture in the ,agricola1 ,i've heard your men say1 might have been published4 ,it was a masterly1 minute running comment on the text1 quite exhausting it4 ,yes1 it was his forte1 said ,charles2 yet he never loaded his lectures2 everything he said had a meaning1 and was wanted4 ,he has got a capital living1 said ,barry2 a substantial modern house1 and by the rail only an hour from ,london4 ,and #ejjl4 a year1 said ,white2 ,mr4 ,bolton went over the living1 and told me so4 ,it's in my future neighbourhood2 a very beautiful country1 and a number of good families round about4 ,they say he's going to marry the ,dean of ,selsey's daughter1 said ,barry2 do you know the family8 ,miss ,juliet1 the thirteenth1 a very pretty girl4 ,yes1 said ,white1 ,i know them all2 a most delightful family2 ,mrs4 ,bland is a charming woman1 so very ladylike4 ,it's my good luck to be under the ,dean's jurisdiction2 ,i think ,i shall pull with him capitally4 ,he's a clever man1 said ,barry2 his charges are always well written2 he had a high name in his day at ,cambridge4 ,hasn't he been lately writing against your friends here1 ,white8 said ,sheffield4 ,my friends6 said ,white2 whom can you mean8 ,he has written against parties and party leaders2 and with reason1 ,i think4 ,oh1 yes2 he alluded to poor ,willis and some others4 ,it was more that that1 insisted ,sheffield2 he charged against certain sayings and doings at ,st4 ,mary's4 ,well1 ,i for one cannot approve of all that is uttered from the pulpit there1 said ,white2 ,i know for a fact that ,willis refers with great satisfaction to what he heard there as inclining him to ,romanism4 ,i wish preachers and hearers would all go over together at once1 and then we should have some quiet time for proper ,university studies1 said ,barry4 ,take care what you are saying1 ,barry1 said ,sheffield2 you mean present company excepted4 ,you1 ,white1 ,i think1 come under the denomination of hearers8 ,i6 said ,white2 no such thing4 ,i have been to hear him before now1 as most men have2 but ,i think him often very injudicious1 or worse4 ,the tendency of his preaching is to make one dissatisfied with one's own ,church4 ,well1 said ,sheffield1 one's memory plays one tricks1 or ,i should say that a friend of mine had said ten times as strong things against our ,church as any preacher in ,oxford ever did4 ,you mean me1 said ,white1 with earnestness2 you have misunderstood me grievously4 ,i have ever been most faithful to the ,church of ,england4 ,you never heard me say anything inconsistent with the warmest attachment to it4 ,i have never1 indeed1 denied the claims of the ,romish ,church to be a branch of the ,catholic ,church1 nor will ,i1--that's another thing quite2 there are many things which we might borrow with great advantage from the ,romanists4 ,but ,i have ever loved1 and hope ,i shall ever venerate1 my own ,mother1 the ,church of my baptism4 ,sheffield made an odd face1 and no one spoke4 ,white continued1 attempting to preserve an unconcerned manner3 ,it is remarkable1 he said1 that ,mr4 ,bolton--who1 though a layman1 and no divine1 is a sensible1 practical1 shrewd man--never liked that pulpit2 he always prophesied no good would come of it4 ,the silence continuing1 ,white presently fell upon ,sheffield4 ,i defy you1 he said1 with an attempt to be jocular1 to prove what you have been hinting2 it is a great shame4 ,it's so easy to speak against men1 to call them injudicious1 extravagant1 and so on4 ,you are the only person-- ,well1 well1 ,i know it1 ,i know it1 said ,sheffield2 we're only canonizing you1 and ,i am the devil's advocate4 ,charles wanted to hear something about ,willis2 so he turned the current of ,white's thoughts by coming up and asking him whether there was any truth in the report he had heard from ,vincent several weeks before2 had ,white heard from him lately8 ,white knew very little about him definitely1 and was not able to say whether the report was true or not4 ,so far was certain1 that he had returned from abroad and was living at home4 ,thus he had not committed himself to the ,church of ,rome1 whether as a theological student or as a novice2 but he could not say more4 ,yes1 he had heard one thing more2 and the subject of a letter which he had received from him corroborated it--that he was very strong on the point that ,romanism and ,anglicanism were two religions2 that you could not amalgamate them2 that you must be ,roman or ,anglican1 but could not be ,anglo-,roman or ,anglo-,catholic4 ,this is what a friend told me4 ,in his letter to myself1 ,white continued1 ,i don't know quite what he meant1 but he spoke a good deal of the necessity of faith in order to be a ,catholic4 ,he said no one should go over merely because he thought he should like it better2 that he had found out by experience that no one could live on sentiment2 that the whole system of worship in the ,romish ,church was different from what it is in our own2 nay1 the very idea of worship1 the idea of prayers2 that the doctrine of intention itself1 viewed in all its parts1 constituted a new religion4 ,he did not speak of himself definitely1 but he said generally that all this might be a great discouragement to a convert1 and throw him back4 ,on the whole1 the tone of his letter was like a person disappointed1 and who might be reclaimed2 at least1 so ,i thought4 ,he is a wiser1 even if he is a sadder man1 said ,charles3 ,i did not know he had so much in him4 ,there is more reflection in all this than so excitable a person1 as he seemed to me1 is capable of exercising4 ,at the same time there is nothing in all this to prove that he is sorry for what he has done4 ,i have granted this1 said ,white2 still the effect of the letter was to keep people back from following him1 by putting obstacles in their way2 and then we must couple this with the fact of his going home4 ,charles thought awhile4 ,vincent's testimony1 he said1 is either a confirmation or a mere exaggeration of what you have told me1 according as it is independent or not4 ,then he said to himself1 ,white1 too1 has more in him than ,i thought2 he really has spoken about ,willis very sensibly3 what has come to him8 ,the paths soon divided2 and while the ,chalton pair took the right hand1 ,carlton and his pupils turned to the left4 ,soon ,carlton parted from the two friends1 and they reached their cottage just in time to see the setting sun4 ,,chapter ,,iv4 ,a few days later1 ,carlton1 ,sheffield1 and ,reding were talking together after dinner out of doors about ,white4 ,how he is altered1 said ,charles1 since ,i first knew him6 ,altered6 cried ,sheffield2 he was a playful kitten once1 and now he is one of the dullest old tabbies ,i ever came across4 ,altered for the better1 said ,charles2 he has now a steady sensible way of talking2 but he was not a very wise person two years ago2 he is reading1 too1 really hard4 ,he has some reason1 said ,sheffield1 for he is sadly behindhand2 but there is another cause of his steadiness which perhaps you know4 ,i6 no indeed1 answered ,charles4 ,i thought of course you knew it1 said ,sheffield2 you don't mean to say you have not heard that he is engaged to some ,oxford girl8 ,engaged6 cried ,charles1 how absurd6 ,i don't see that at all1 my dear ,reding1 said ,carlton4 ,it's not as if he could not afford it2 he has a good living waiting for him2 and1 moreover1 he is thus losing no time1 which is a great thing in life4 ,much time is often lost4 ,white will soon find himself settled in every sense of the word1 in mind1 in life1 in occupation4 ,charles said that there was one thing which could not help surprising him1 namely1 that when ,white first came up he was so strong in his advocacy of clerical celibacy4 ,carlton and ,sheffield laughed4 ,and do you think1 said the former1 that a youth of eighteen can have an opinion on such a subject1 or knows himself well enough to make a resolution in his own case8 ,do you really think it fair to hold a man committed to all the random opinions and extravagant sayings into which he was betrayed when he first left school8 ,he had read some ultra-book or other1 said ,sheffield2 or had seen some beautiful nun sculptured on a chancel-screen1 and was carried away by romance--as others have been and are4 ,don't you suppose1 said ,carlton1 that those good fellows who now are so full of 'sacerdotal purity1' 'angelical blessedness1' and so on1 will one and all be married by this time ten years8 ,i'll take a bet of it1 said ,sheffield3 one will give in early1 one late1 but there is a time destined for all4 ,pass some ten or twelve years1 as ,carlton says1 and we shall find ,a4,b4 on a curacy1 the happy father of ten children2 ,c4,d4 wearing on a long courtship till a living falls2 ,e4,f4 in his honeymoon2 ,g4,h4 lately presented by ,mrs4 ,h4 with twins2 ,i4,k4 full of joy1 just accepted2 ,l4,m4 may remain what ,gibbon calls 'a column in the midst of ruins1' and a very tottering column too4 ,do you really think1 said ,charles1 that people mean so little what they say8 ,you take matters too seriously1 ,reding1 answered ,carlton2 who does not change his opinions between twenty and thirty8 ,a young man enters life with his father's or tutor's views2 he changes them for his own4 ,the more modest and diffident he is1 the more faith he has1 so much the longer does he speak the words of others2 but the force of circumstances1 or the vigour of his mind1 infallibly obliges him at last to have a mind of his own2 that is1 if he is good for anything4 ,but ,i suspect1 said ,reding1 that the last generation1 whether of fathers or tutors1 had no very exalted ideas of clerical celibacy4 ,accidents often clothe us with opinions which we wear for a time1 said ,carlton4 ,well1 ,i honour people who wear their family suit2 ,i don't honour those at all who begin with foreign fashions and then abandon them4 ,a few years more of life1 said ,carlton1 smiling1 will make your judgment kinder4 ,i don't like talkers1 continued ,charles2 ,i don't think ,i ever shall2 ,i hope not4 ,i know better what's at the bottom of it1 said ,sheffield2 but ,i can't stay2 ,i must go in and read2 ,reding is too fond of a gossip4 ,who talks so much as you1 ,sheffield8 said ,charles4 ,but ,i talk fast when ,i talk1 answered he1 and get through a great deal of work2 then ,i give over3 but you prose1 and muse1 and sigh1 and prose again4 ,and so he left them4 ,what does he mean8 asked ,carlton4 ,charles slightly coloured and laughed3 ,you are a man ,i say things to1 ,i don't to others1 he made answer2 as to ,sheffield1 he fancies he has found it out of himself4 ,carlton looked round at him sharply and curiously4 ,i am ashamed of myself1 said ,charles1 laughing and looking confused2 ,i have made you think that ,i have something important to tell1 but really ,i have nothing at all4 ,well1 out with it1 said ,carlton4 ,why1 to tell the truth1--no1 really1 it is too absurd4 ,i have made a fool of myself4 ,he turned away1 then turned back1 and resumed3 ,why1 it was only this1 that ,sheffield fancies ,i have some sneaking kindness for 444 celibacy myself4 ,kindness for whom8 said ,carlton4 ,kindness for celibacy4 ,there was a pause1 and ,carlton's face somewhat changed4 ,oh1 my dear good fellow1 he said kindly1 so you are one of them2 but it will go off4 ,perhaps it will1 said ,charles3 oh1 ,i am laying no stress upon it4 ,it was ,sheffield who made me mention it4 ,a real difference of mind and view had evidently been struck upon by two friends1 very congenial and very fond of each other4 ,there was a pause for a few seconds4 ,you are so sensible a fellow1 ,reding1 said ,carlton1 it surprises me that you should take up this notion4 ,it's no new notion taken up1 answered ,charles2 you will smile1 but ,i had it when a boy at school1 and ,i have ever since fancied that ,i should never marry4 ,not that the feeling has never intermitted1 but it is the habit of my mind4 ,my general thoughts run in that one way1 that ,i shall never marry4 ,if ,i did1 ,i should dread ,thalaba's punishment4 ,carlton put his hand on ,reding's shoulder1 and gently shook him to and fro2 ,well1 it surprises me1 he said2 then1 after a pause1 ,i have been accustomed to think both celibacy and marriage good in their way4 ,in the ,church of ,rome great good1 ,i see1 comes of celibacy2 but depend on it1 my dear ,reding1 you are making a great blunder if you are for introducing celibacy into the ,anglican ,church4 ,there's nothing against it in ,prayer ,book or ,articles1 said ,charles4 ,perhaps not2 but the whole genius1 structure1 working of our ,church goes the other way4 ,for instance1 we have no monasteries to relieve the poor2 and if we had1 ,i suspect1 as things are1 a parson's wife would1 in practical substantial usefulness1 be infinitely superior to all the monks that were ever shaven4 ,i declare1 ,i think the ,bishop of ,ipswich is almost justified in giving out that none but married men have a chance of preferment from him2 nay1 the ,bishop of ,abingdon1 who makes a rule of bestowing his best livings as marriage portions to the most virtuous young ladies in his diocese4 ,carlton spoke with more energy than was usual with him4 ,charles answered1 that he was not looking to the expediency or feasibility of the thing1 but at what seemed to him best in itself1 and what he could not help admiring4 ,i said nothing about the celibacy of clergy1 he observed1 but of celibacy generally4 ,celibacy has no place in our idea or our system of religion1 depend on it1 said ,carlton4 ,it is nothing to the purpose1 whether there is anything in the ,articles against it2 it is not a question about formal enactments1 but whether the genius of ,anglicanism is not utterly at variance with it4 ,the experience of three hundred years is surely abundant for our purpose2 if we don't know what our religion is in that time1 what time will be long enough8 there are forms of religion which have not lasted so long from first to last4 ,now enumerate the cases of celibacy for celibacy's sake in that period1 and what will be the sum total of them8 ,some instances there are2 but even ,hammond1 who died unmarried1 was going to marry1 when his mother wished it4 ,on the other hand1 if you look out for types of our ,church can you find truer than the married excellence of ,hooker the profound1 ,taylor the devotional1 and ,bull the polemical8 ,the very first reformed primate is married2 in ,pole and ,parker1 the two systems1 ,roman and ,anglican1 come into strong contrast4 ,well1 it seems to me as much a yoke of bondage1 said ,charles1 to compel marriage as to compel celibacy1 and that is what you are really driving at4 ,you are telling me that any one is a black sheep who does not marry4 ,not a very practical difficulty to you at this moment1 said ,carlton2 no one is asking you to go about on ,coelebs' mission just now1 with ,aristotle in hand and the class-list in view4 ,well1 excuse me1 said ,charles1 if ,i have said anything very foolish2 you don't suppose ,i argue on such subjects with others4 ,,chapter ,v4 ,they had by this time strolled as far as ,carlton's lodgings1 where the books happened to be on which ,charles was at that time more immediately employed2 and they took two or three turns under some fine beeches which stood in front of the house before entering it4 ,tell me1 ,reding1 said ,carlton1 for really ,i don't understand1 what are your reasons for admiring what1 in truth1 is simply an unnatural state4 ,don't let us talk more1 my dear ,carlton1 answered ,reding2 ,i shall go on making a fool of myself4 ,let well alone1 or bad alone1 pray do4 ,it was evident that there was some strong feeling irritating him inwardly2 the manner and words were too serious for the occasion4 ,carlton1 too1 felt strongly upon what seemed at first sight a very secondary question1 or he would have let it alone1 as ,charles asked him4 ,no2 as we are on the subject1 let me get at your view1 said he4 ,it was said in the beginning1 ',increase and multiply2' therefore celibacy is unnatural4 ,supernatural1 said ,charles1 smiling4 ,is not that a word without an idea8 asked ,carlton4 ,we are taught by ,butler that there is an analogy between nature and grace2 else you might parallel paganism to nature1 and where paganism is contrary to nature1 say that it is supernatural4 ,the ,wesleyan convulsions are preternatural2 why not supernatural8 ,i really think that our divines1 or at least some of them1 are on my side here1 said ,charles--,jeremy ,taylor1 ,i believe4 ,you have not told me what you mean by supernatural1 said ,carlton2 ,i want to get at what you think1 you know4 ,it seems to me1 said ,charles1 that ,christianity1 being the perfection of nature1 is both like it and unlike it2--like it1 where it is the same or as much as nature2 unlike it1 where it is as much and more4 ,i mean by supernatural the perfection of nature4 ,give me an instance1 said ,carlton4 ,why1 consider1 ,carlton2 our ,lord says1 ',ye have heard that it has been said of old time1--but ,i say unto you2' that contrast denotes the more perfect way1 or the gospel 444 ,he came not to destroy1 but to fulfil the law 444 ,i can't recollect of a sudden2 444 oh1 for instance1 this is a case in point2 ,he abolished a permission which had been given to the ,jews because of the hardness of their hearts4 ,not quite in point1 said ,carlton1 for the ,jews1 in their divorces1 had fallen below nature4 ',let no man put asunder1' was the rule in ,paradise4 ,still1 surely the idea of an ,apostle1 unmarried1 pure1 in fast and nakedness1 and at length a martyr1 is a higher idea than that of one of the old ,israelites sitting under his vine and fig-tree1 full of temporal goods1 and surrounded by sons and grandsons4 ,i am not derogating from ,gideon or ,caleb2 ,i am adding to ,st4 ,paul4 ,st4 ,paul's is a very particular case1 said ,carlton4 ,but he himself lays down the general maxim1 that it is 'good' for a man to continue as he was4 ,there we come to a question of criticism1 what 'good' means3 ,i may think it means 'expedient1' and what he says about the 'present distress' confirms it4 ,well1 ,i won't go to criticism1 said ,charles2 take the text1 'in sin hath my mother conceived me4' ,do not these words show that1 over and above the doctrine of original sin1 there is 7to say the least7 great risk of marriage leading to sin in married people8 ,my dear ,reding1 said ,carlton1 astonished1 you are running into ,gnosticism4 ,not knowingly or willingly1 answered ,charles2 but understand what ,i mean4 ,it's not a subject ,i can talk about2 but it seems to me1 without of course saying that married persons must sin 7which would be ,gnosticism71 that there is a danger of sin4 ,but don't let me say more on this point4 ,well1 said ,carlton1 after thinking awhile1 ,i have been accustomed to consider ,christianity as the perfection of man as a whole1 body1 soul1 and spirit4 ,don't misunderstand me4 ,pantheists say body and intellect1 leaving out the moral principle2 but ,i say spirit as well as mind4 ,spirit1 or the principle of religious faith and obedience1 should be the master principle1 the hegemonicon4 ,to this both intellect and body are subservient2 but as this supremacy does not imply the ill-usage1 the bondage of the intellect1 neither does it of the body2 both should be well treated4 ,well1 ,i think1 on the contrary1 it does imply in one sense the bondage of intellect and body too4 ,what is faith but the submission of the intellect8 and as 'every high thought is brought into captivity1' so are we expressly told to bring the body into subjection too4 ,they are both well treated1 when they are treated so as to be made fit instruments of the sovereign principle4 ,that is what ,i call unnatural1 said ,carlton4 ,and it is what ,i mean by supernatural1 answered ,reding1 getting a little too earnest4 ,how is it supernatural1 or adding to nature1 to destroy a part of it8 asked ,carlton4 ,charles was puzzled4 ,it was a way1 he said1 towards perfection2 but he thought that perfection came after death1 not here4 ,our nature could not be perfect with a corruptible body2 the body was treated now as a body of death4 ,well1 ,reding1 answered ,carlton1 you make ,christianity a very different religion from what our ,church considers it1 ,i really think2 and he paused awhile4 ,look here1 he proceeded1 how can we rejoice in ,christ1 as having been redeemed by ,him1 if we are in this sort of gloomy penitential state8 ,how much is said in ,st4 ,paul about peace1 thanksgiving1 assurance1 comfort1 and the like6 ,old things are passed away2 the ,jewish law is destroyed2 pardon and peace are come2 that is the ,gospel4 ,don't you think1 then1 said ,charles1 that we should grieve for the sins into which we are daily betrayed1 and for the more serious offences which from time to time we may have committed8 ,certainly2 we do so in ,morning and ,evening ,prayer1 and in the ,communion ,service4 ,well1 but supposing a youth1 as is so often the case1 has neglected religion altogether1 and has a whole load of sins1 and very heinous ones1 all upon him1--do you think that1 when he turns over a new leaf1 and comes to ,communion1 he is1 on saying the ,confession 7saying it with that contrition with which such persons ought to say it71 pardoned at once1 and has nothing more to fear about his past sins8 ,i should say1 ',yes1' answered ,carlton4 ,really1 said ,charles thoughtfully4 ,of course1 said ,carlton1 ,i suppose him truly sorry or penitent3 whether he is so or not his future life will show4 ,well1 somehow1 ,i cannot master this idea1 said ,charles2 ,i think most serious persons1 even for a little sin1 would go on fidgeting themselves1 and would not suppose they gained pardon directly they asked for it4 ,certainly1 answered ,carlton2 but ,god pardons those who do not pardon themselves4 ,that is1 said ,charles1 who don't at once feel peace1 assurance1 and comfort2 who don't feel the perfect joy of the ,gospel4 ,such persons grieve1 but rejoice too1 said ,carlton4 ,but tell me1 ,carlton1 said ,reding2 is1 or is not1 their not forgiving themselves1 their sorrow and trouble1 pleasing to ,god8 ,surely4 ,thus a certain self-infliction for sin committed is pleasing to ,him2 and1 if so1 how does it matter whether it is inflicted on mind or body8 ,it is not properly a self-infliction1 answered ,carlton2 self-infliction implies intention2 grief at sin is something spontaneous4 ,when you afflict yourself on purpose1 then at once you pass from pure ,christianity4 ,well1 said ,charles1 ,i certainly fancied that fasting1 abstinence1 labours1 celibacy1 might be taken as a make-up for sin4 ,it is not a very far-fetched idea4 ,you recollect ,dr4 ,johnson's standing in the rain in the market-place at ,lichfield when a man1 as a penance for some disobedience to his father when a boy8 ,but1 my dear ,reding1 said ,carlton1 let me bring you back to what you said originally1 and to my answer to you1 which what you now say only makes more apposite4 ,you began by saying that celibacy was a perfection of nature1 now you make it a penance2 first it is good and glorious1 next it is a medicine and punishment4 ,perhaps our highest perfection here is penance1 said ,charles2 but ,i don't know2 ,i don't profess to have clear ideas upon the subject4 ,i have talked more than ,i like4 ,let us at length give over4 ,they did1 in consequence1 pass to other subjects connected with ,charles's reading2 then they entered the house1 and set to upon ,polybius2 but it could not be denied that for the rest of the day ,carlton's manner was not quite his own1 as if something had annoyed him4 ,next morning he was as usual4 ,,chapter ,,vi4 ,it is impossible to stop the growth of the mind4 ,here was ,charles with his thoughts turned away from religious controversy for two years1 yet with his religious views progressing1 unknown to himself1 the whole time4 ,it could not have been otherwise1 if he was to live a religious life at all4 ,if he was to worship and obey his ,creator1 intellectual acts1 conclusions1 and judgments1 must accompany that worship and obedience4 ,he might not realize his own belief till questions had been put to him2 but then a single discussion with a friend1 such as the above with ,carlton1 would bring out what he really did hold to his own apprehension--would ascertain for him the limits of each opinion as he held it1 and the inter-relations of opinion with opinion4 ,he had not yet given names to these opinions1 much less had they taken a theological form2 nor could they1 under his circumstances1 be expressed in theological language2 but here he was1 a young man of twenty-two1 professing in an hour's conversation with a friend1 what really were the ,catholic doctrines and usages of penance1 purgatory1 councils of perfection1 mortification of self1 and clerical celibacy4 ,no wonder that all this annoyed ,carlton1 though he no more than ,charles perceived that all this ,catholicism did in fact lie hid under his professions2 but he felt1 in what ,reding put out1 the presence of something1 as he expressed it1 very unlike the ,church of ,england2 something new and unpleasant to him1 and withal something which had a body in it1 which had a momentum1 which could not be passed over as a vague1 sudden sound or transitory cloud1 but which had much behind it1 which made itself felt1 which struck heavily4 ,and here we see what is meant when a person says that the ,catholic system comes home to his mind1 fulfils his ideas of religion1 satisfies his sympathies1 and the like2 and thereupon becomes a ,catholic4 ,such a person is often said to go by private judgment1 to be choosing his religion by his own standard of what a religion ought to be4 ,now it need not be denied that those who are external to the ,church must begin with private judgment2 they use it in order ultimately to supersede it2 as a man out of doors uses a lamp in a dark night1 and puts it out when he gets home4 ,what would be thought of his bringing it into his drawing-room8 what would the goodly company there assembled before a genial hearth and under glittering chandeliers1 the bright ladies and the well-dressed gentlemen1 say to him if he came in with a great-coat on his back1 a hat on his head1 an umbrella under his arm1 and a large stable-lantern in his hand8 ,yet what would be thought1 on the other hand1 if he precipitated himself into the inhospitable night and the war of the elements in his ball-dress8 ,when the king came in to see the guests1 he saw a man who had not on a wedding-garment2 he saw a man who determined to live in the ,church as he had lived out of it1 who would not use his privileges1 who would not exchange reason for faith1 who would not accommodate his thoughts and doings to the glorious scene which surrounded him1 who was groping for the hidden treasure and digging for the pearl of price in the high1 lustrous1 all-jewelled ,temple of the ,lord of ,hosts2 who shut his eyes and speculated1 when he might open them and see4 ,there is no absurdity1 then1 or inconsistency in a person first using his private judgment and then denouncing its use4 ,circumstances change duties4 ,but still1 after all1 the person in question does not1 strictly speaking1 judge of the external system presented to him by his private ideas1 but he brings in the dicta of that system to confirm and to justify certain private judgments and personal feelings and habits already existing4 ,reding1 for instance1 felt a difficulty in determining how and when the sins of a ,christian are forgiven2 he had a great notion that celibacy was better than married life4 ,he was not the first person in the ,church of ,england who had had such thoughts2 to numbers1 doubtless1 before him they had occurred2 but these numbers had looked abroad1 and seen nothing around them to justify what they felt1 and their feelings had1 in consequence1 either festered within them1 or withered away4 ,but when a man1 thus constituted within1 falls under the shadow of ,catholicism without1 then the mighty ,creed at once produces an influence upon him4 ,he see that it justifies his thoughts1 explains his feelings2 he understands that it numbers1 corrects1 harmonizes1 completes them2 and he is led to ask what is the authority of this foreign teaching2 and then1 when he finds it is what was once received in ,england from north to south1 in ,england from the very time that ,christianity was introduced here2 that1 as far as historical records go1 ,christianity and ,catholicism are synonymous2 that it is still the faith of the largest section of the ,christian world2 and that the faith of his own country is held nowhere but within her own limits and those of her own colonies2 nay1 further1 that it is very difficult to say what faith she has1 or that she has any1--then he submits himself to the ,catholic ,church1 not by a process of criticism1 but as a pupil to a teacher4 ,in saying this1 of course it is not denied1 on the one hand1 that there may be persons who come to the ,catholic ,church on imperfect motives1 or in a wrong way2 who choose it by criticism1 and who1 unsubdued by its majesty and its grace1 go on criticizing when they are in it2 and who1 if they persist and do not learn humility1 may criticize themselves out of it again4 ,nor is it denied1 on the other hand1 that some who are not ,catholics may possibly choose 7for instance7 ,methodism1 in the above moral way1 viz4 because it confirms and justifies the inward feeling of their hearts4 ,this is certainly possible in idea1 though what there is venerable1 awful1 superhuman1 in the ,wesleyan ,conference to persuade one to take it as a prophet1 is a perplexing problem2 yet1 after all1 the matter of fact we conceive to lie the other way1 viz4 that ,wesleyans and other sectaries put themselves above their system1 not below it2 and though they may in bodily position sit under their preacher1 yet in the position of their souls and spirits1 minds and judgments1 they are exalted high above him4 ,but to return to the subject of our narrative4 ,what a mystery is the soul of man6 ,here was ,charles1 busy with ,aristotle and ,euripides1 ,thucydides and ,lucretius1 yet all the while growing towards the ,church1 to the measure of the age of the fulness of ,christ4 ,his mother had said to him that he could not escape his destiny2 it was true1 though it was to be fulfilled in a way which she1 affectionate heart1 could not compass1 did not dream of4 ,he could not escape the destiny of being one of the elect of ,god2 he could not escape that destiny which the grace of his ,redeemer had stamped on his soul in baptism1 which his good angel had seen written there1 and had done his zealous part to keep inviolate and bright1 which his own co-operation with the influences of ,heaven had confirmed and secured4 ,he could not escape the destiny1 in due time1 in ,god's time--though it might be long1 though angels might be anxious1 though the ,church might plead as if defrauded of her promised increase of a stranger1 yet a son2 yet come it must1 it was written in ,heaven1 and the slow wheels of time each hour brought it nearer--he could not ultimately escape his destiny of becoming a ,catholic4 ,and even before that blessed hour1 as an opening flower scatters sweets1 so the strange unknown odour1 pleasing to some1 odious to others1 went abroad from him upon the winds1 and made them marvel what could be near them1 and make them look curiously and anxiously at him1 while he was unconscious of his own condition4 ,let us be patient with him1 as his ,maker is patient1 and bear that he should do a work slowly which he will do well4 ,alas6 while ,charles had been growing in one direction1 ,sheffield had been growing in another2 and what that growth had been will appear from a conversation which took place between the two friends1 and which shall be related in the following chapter4 ,,chapter ,,vii4 ,carlton had opened the small church he was serving for ,saints'-day services during the ,long ,vacation2 and not being in the way to have any congregation1 and the church at ,horsley being closed except on ,sundays1 he had asked his two pupils to help him in this matter1 by walking over with him on ,st4 ,matthew's day1 which1 as the season was fine1 and the walk far from a dull one1 they were very glad to do4 ,when church was over ,carlton had to attend a sick call which lay still farther from ,horsley1 and the two young men walked back together4 ,i did not know that ,carlton was so much of a party man1 said ,sheffield2 did not his reading the ,athanasian ,creed strike you8 ,that's no mark of party1 surely1 answered ,charles4 ,to read it on days like these1 ,i think1 is a mark of party2 it's going out of the way4 ,charles did not see how obeying in so plain a matter the clear direction of the ,prayer ,book could be a party act4 ,direction6 said ,sheffield1 as if the question were not1 is that direction now binding8 the sense1 the understanding of the ,church of this day determines its obligation4 ,the prima facie view of the matter1 said ,charles1 is1 that they who do but follow what the ,prayer ,book enjoins are of all people farthest from being a party4 ,not at all1 said ,sheffield2 rigid adherence to old customs surely may be the badge of a party4 ,now consider2 ten years ago1 before the study of ,church-history was revived1 neither ,arianism nor ,athanasianism were thought of at all1 or1 if thought of1 they were considered as questions of words1 at least as held by most minds--one as good as the other4 ,i should say so1 too1 in one sense1 said ,charles1 that is1 ,i should hope that numbers of persons1 for instance1 the unlearned1 who were in ,arian communities spoke ,arian language1 and yet did not mean it4 ,i think ,i have heard that some ancient missionary of the ,goths or ,huns was an ,arian4 ,well1 ,i will speak more precisely1 said ,sheffield3 an ,oxford man1 some ten years since1 was going to publish a history of the ,nicene ,council1 and the bookseller proposed to him to prefix an engraving of ,st4 ,athanasius1 which he had found in some old volume4 ,he was strongly dissuaded from doing so by a brother clergyman1 not from any feeling of his own1 but because ',athanasius was a very unpopular name among us4' ,one swallow does not make a spring1 said ,charles4 ,this clergyman1 continued ,sheffield1 was a friend of the most ,high-,church writers of the day4 ,of course1 said ,reding1 there has always been a heterodox school in our ,church--,i know that well enough--but it never has been powerful4 ,your lax friend was one of them4 ,i believe not1 indeed1 answered ,sheffield2 he lived out of controversy1 was a literary1 accomplished person1 and a man of piety to boot4 ,he did not express any feeling of his own2 he did but witness to a fact1 that the name of ,athanasius was unpopular4 ,so little was known about history1 said ,charles1 this is not surprising4 ,st4 ,athanasius1 you know1 did not write the ,creed called after him4 ,it is possible to think him intemperate1 without thinking the ,creed wrong4 ,well1 then1 again2 there's ,beatson1 ,divinity ,professor2 no one will call him in any sense a party man2 he was put in by the ,tories1 and never has committed himself to any liberal theories in theology4 ,now1 a man who attended his private lectures assures me that he told the men1 ',d'ye see1' said he1 ',i take it1 that the old ,church-of-,england mode of handling the ,creed went out with ,bull4 ,after ,locke wrote1 the old orthodox phraseology came into disrepute4' ,well1 perhaps he meant1 said ,charles1 that learning died away1 which was the case4 ,the old theological language is plainly a learned language2 when fathers and schoolmen were not read1 of course it would be in abeyance2 when they were read again1 it has revived4 ,no1 no1 answered ,sheffield1 he said much more on another occasion4 ,speaking of ,creeds1 and the like1 ',i hold1' he said1 'that the majority of the educated laity of our ,church are ,sabellians4' ,charles was silent1 and hardly knew what reply to make4 ,sheffield went on3 ,i was present some years ago1 when ,i was quite a boy1 when a sort of tutor of mine was talking to one of the most learned and orthodox divines of the day1 a man whose name has never been associated with party1 and the near relation and connexion of high dignitaries1 about a plan of his own for writing a history of the ,councils4 ,this good and able man listened with politeness1 applauded the project2 then added1 in a laughing way1 ',you know you have chosen just the dullest subject in ,church-history4 ,now the ,councils begin with the ,nicene ,creed1 and embrace nearly all doctrinal subjects whatever4' ,my dear ,sheffield1 said ,charles1 you have fallen in with a particular set or party of men yourself2 very respectable1 good men1 ,i don't doubt1 but no fair specimens of the whole ,church4 ,i don't bring them as authorities1 answered ,sheffield1 but as witnesses4 ,still1 said ,charles1 ,i know perfectly well1 that there was a controversy at the end of the last century between ,bishop ,horsley and others1 in which he brought out distinctly one part at least of the ,athanasian doctrine4 ,his controversy was not a defence of the ,athanasian ,creed1 ,i know well1 said ,sheffield2 for the subject came into ,upton's ,article-lecture2 it was with ,priestley2 but1 whatever it was1 divines would only think it all very fine1 just as his ',sermons on ,prophecy4' ,it is another question whether they would recognize the worth either of the one or of the other4 ,they receive the scholastic terms about the ,trinity just as they receive the doctrine that the ,pope is ,antichrist4 ,when ,horsley says the latter1 or something of the kind1 good old clergymen say1 ',certainly1 certainly1 oh yes1 it's the old ,church-of-,england doctrine1' thinking it right1 indeed1 to be maintained1 but not caring themselves to maintain it1 or at most professing it just when mentioned1 but not really thinking about it from one year's end to the other4 ,and so with regard to the doctrine of the ,trinity1 they say1 'the great ,horsley1' 'the powerful ,horsley2' they don't indeed dispute his doctrine1 but they don't care about it2 they look on him as a doughty champion1 armed cap--pie1 who has put down dissent1 who has cut off the head of some impudent non-protectionist1 or insane chartist1 or spouter in a vestry1 who1 under cover of theology1 had run a tilt against tithes and church-rates4 ,i can't think so badly of our present divines1 said ,charles2 ,i know that in this very place there are various orthodox writers1 whom no one would call party men4 ,stop1 said ,sheffield1 understand me1 ,i was not speaking against them4 ,i was but saying that these anti-,athanasian views were not unfrequent4 ,i have been in the way of hearing a good deal on the subject at my private tutor's1 and have kept my eyes about me since ,i have been here4 ,the ,bishop of ,derby was a friend of ,sheen's1 my private tutor1 and got his promotion when ,i was with the latter2 and ,sheen told me that he wrote to him on that occasion1 ',what shall ,i read8 ,i don't know anything of theology4' ,i rather think he was recommended1 or proposed to read ,scott's ,bible4 ,it's easy to bring instances1 said ,charles1 when you have all your own way2 what you say is evidently all an ex-parte statement4 ,take again ,shipton1 who died lately1 continued ,sheffield2 what a high position he held in the ,church2 yet it is perfectly well known that he thought it a mistake to use the word ',person' in the doctrine of the ,trinity4 ,what makes this stranger is1 that he was so very severe on clergymen 7,tractarians1 for instance7 who evade the sense of the ,articles4 ,now he was a singularly honest1 straightforward man2 he despised money2 he cared nothing for public opinion2 yet he was a ,sabellian4 ,would he have eaten the bread of the ,church1 as it is called1 for a day1 unless he had felt that his opinions were not inconsistent with his profession as ,dean of ,bath1 and ,prebendary of ,dorchester8 ,is it not plain that he considered the practice of the ,church to have modified1 to have re-interpreted its documents8 ,why1 said ,charles1 the practice of the ,church cannot make black white2 or1 if a sentence means yes1 make it mean no4 ,i won't deny that words are often vague and uncertain in their sense1 and frequently need a comment1 so that the teaching of the day has great influence in determining their sense2 but the question is1 whether the counter-teaching of every dean1 every prebendary1 every clergyman1 every bishop in the whole ,church1 could make the ,athanasian ,creed ,sabellian2 ,i think not4 ,certainly not1 answered ,sheffield2 but the clergymen ,i speak of simply say that they are not bound to the details of the ,creed1 only to the great outline that there is a ,trinity4 ,great outline6 said ,charles1 great stuff6 an ,unitarian would not deny that4 ,he1 of course1 believes in ,father1 ,son1 and ,holy ,spirit2 though he thinks the ,son a creature1 and the ,spirit an influence4 ,well1 ,i don't deny1 said ,sheffield1 that if ,dean ,shipton was a sound member of the ,church1 ,dr4 ,priestley might have been also4 ,but my doubt is1 whether1 if the ,tractarian school had not risen1 ,priestley might not have been1 had he lived to this time1 ,i will not say a positively sound member1 but sound enough for preferment4 ,if the ,tractarian school had not risen6 that is but saying if our ,church was other than it is4 ,what is that school but a birth1 an offspring of the ,church8 and if the ,church had not given birth to one party of men for its defence1 it would have given birth to another4 ,no1 no1 said ,sheffield1 ,i assure you the old school of doctrine was all but run out when they began2 and ,i declare ,i wish they had let things alone4 ,there was the doctrine of the ,apostolical ,succession2 a few good old men were its sole remaining professors in the ,church2 and a great ecclesiastical personage1 on one occasion1 quite scoffed at their persisting to hold it4 ,he maintained the doctrine went out with the non-jurors4 ',you are so few1' he said1 'that we can count you4' ,charles was not pleased with the subject1 on various accounts4 ,he did not like what seemed to him an attack of ,sheffield's upon the ,church of ,england2 and1 besides1 he began to feel uncomfortable misgivings and doubts whether that attack was not well founded1 to which he did not like to be exposed4 ,accordingly he kept silence1 and1 after a short interval1 attempted to change the subject2 but ,sheffield's hand was in1 and he would not be balked2 so he presently began again4 ,i have been speaking1 he said1 of the liberal section of our ,church4 ,there are four parties in the ,church4 ,of these the old ,tory1 or country party1 which is out-and-out the largest1 has no opinion at all1 but merely takes up the theology or no-theology of the day1 and cannot properly be said to 'hold' what the ,creed calls 'the ,catholic faith4' ,it does not deny it2 it may not knowingly disbelieve it2 but it gives no signs of actually holding it1 beyond the fact that it treats it with respect4 ,i will venture to say1 that not a country parson of them all1 from year's end to year's end1 makes once a year what ,catholics call 'an act of faith' in that special and very distinctive mystery contained in the clauses of the ,athanasian ,creed4 ,then1 seeing ,charles looked rather hurt1 he added1 ,i am not speaking of any particular clergyman here or there1 but of the great majority of them4 ,after the ,tory party comes the ,liberal2 which also dislikes the ,athanasian ,creed1 as ,i have said4 ,thirdly1 as to the ,evangelical2 ,i know you have one of the ,nos4 of the ',tracts for the ,times' about objective faith4 ,now that tract seems to prove that the ,evangelical party is implicitly ,sabellian1 and is tending to avow that belief4 ,this too has been already the actual course of ,evangelical doctrine both on the ,continent and in ,america4 ,the ,protestants of ,geneva1 ,holland1 ,ulster1 and ,boston have all1 ,i believe1 become ,unitarians1 or the like4 ,dr4 ,adam ,clarke too1 the celebrated ,wesleyan1 held the distinguishing ,sabellian tenet1 as ,doddridge is said to have done before him4 ,all this considered1 ,i do think ,i have made out a good case for my original assertion1 that at this time of day it is a party thing to go out of the way to read the ,athanasian ,creed4 ,i don't agree with you at all1 said ,charles2 you say a great deal more than you have a warrant to do1 and draw sweeping conclusions from slender premisses4 ,this1 at least1 is what it seems to me4 ,i wish too you would not so speak of 'making out a case4' ,it is as if these things were mere topics for disputation4 ,and ,i don't like your taking the wrong side2 you are rather fond of doing so4 ,reding1 answered ,sheffield1 ,i speak what ,i think1 and ever will do so2 ,i will be no party man4 ,i don't attempt1 like ,vincent1 to unite opposites4 ,he is of all parties1 ,i am of none4 ,i think ,i see pretty well the hollowness of all4 ,o my dear ,sheffield1 cried ,charles1 in distress1 think what you are saying2 you don't mean what you say4 ,you are speaking as if you thought that belief in the ,athanasian ,creed was a mere party opinion4 ,sheffield first was silent2 then he said1 ,well1 ,i beg your pardon1 if ,i have said anything to annoy you1 or have expressed myself intemperately4 ,but surely one has no need to believe what so many people either disbelieve or disregard4 ,the subject then dropped2 and presently ,carlton overtook them on the farmer's pony1 which he had borrowed4 ,,chapter ,,viii4 ,reding had for near two years put aside his doubts about the ,articles2 but it was like putting off the payment of a bill--a respite1 not a deliverance4 ,the two conversations which we have been recording1 bringing him to issue on most important subjects first with one1 then with another1 of two intimate friends1 who were bound by the ,articles as well as he1 uncomfortably reminded him of his debt to the ,university and ,church2 and the nearer approach of his examination and degree inflicted on him the thought that the time was coming when he must be prepared to discharge it4 ,one day1 when he was strolling out with ,carlton1 toward the end of the ,vacation1 he had been led to speak of the number of religious opinions and parties in ,oxford1 which had so many bad effects1 making so many talk1 so many criticise1 and not a few perhaps doubt about truth altogether4 ,then he said that1 evil as it was in a place of education1 yet he feared it was unavoidable1 if ,carlton's doctrine about parties were correct2 for if there was a place where differences of religious opinions would show themselves1 it would be in a university4 ,i am far from denying it1 said ,carlton2 but all systems have their defects2 no polity1 no theology1 no ritual is perfect4 ,one only came directly and simply from ,heaven1 the ,jewish2 and even that was removed because of its unprofitableness4 ,this is no derogation from the perfection of ,divine ,revelation1 for it arises from the subject-matter on and through which it operates4 ,there was a pause2 then ,carlton went on3 ,it is the fault of most young thinkers to be impatient1 if they do not find perfection in everything2 they are 'new brooms4' ,another pause2 he went on again3 ,what form of religion is less objectionable than ours8 ,you see the inconveniences of your own system1 for you experience them2 you have not felt1 and cannot know1 those of others4 ,charles was still silent1 and went on plucking and chewing leaves from the shrubs and bushes through which their path winded4 ,at length he said1 ,i should not like to say it to any one but you1 ,carlton1 but1 do you know1 ,i was very uncomfortable about the ,articles1 going on for two years since2 ,i really could not understand them1 and their history makes matters worse4 ,i put the subject from me altogether2 but now that my examination and degree are coming on1 ,i must take it up again4 ,you must have been put into the ,article-lecture early1 said ,carlton4 ,well1 perhaps ,i was not up to the subject1 answered ,charles4 ,i didn't mean that1 said ,carlton2 but as to the thing itself1 my dear fellow1 it happens every day1 and especially to thoughtful people like yourself4 ,it should not annoy you4 ,but my fidget is1 said ,charles1 lest my difficulties should return1 and ,i should not be able to remove them4 ,you should take all these things calmly1 said ,carlton2 all things1 as ,i have said1 have their difficulties4 ,if you wait till everything is as it should be or might be conceivably1 you will do nothing1 and will lose life4 ,the moral and social world is not an open country2 it is already marked and mapped out2 it has its roads4 ,you can't go across country2 if you attempt a steeple-chase1 you will break your neck for your pains4 ,forms of religion are facts2 they have each their history4 ,they existed before you were born1 and will survive you4 ,you must choose1 you cannot make4 ,i know1 said ,reding1 ,i can't make a religion1 nor can ,i perhaps find one better than my own4 ,i don't want to do so2 but this is not my difficulty4 ,take your own image4 ,i am jogging along my own old road1 and lo1 a high turnpike1 fast locked2 and my poor pony can't clear it4 ,i don't complain2 but there's the fact1 or at least may be4 ,the pony must1 answered ,carlton2 or if not1 there must be some way about2 else what is the good of a road8 ,in religion all roads have their obstacles2 one has a strong gate across it1 another goes through a bog4 ,is no one to go on8 ,is religion to be at a deadlock8 ,is ,christianity to die out8 ,where else will you go8 ,not surely to ,methodism1 or ,plymouth-brotherism4 ,as to the ,romish ,church1 ,i suspect it has more difficulties than we have4 ,you must sacrifice your private judgment4 ,all this is very good1 answered ,charles2 but what is very expedient still may be very impossible4 ,the finest words about the necessity of getting home before nightfall will not enable my poor little pony to take the gate4 ,certainly not1 said ,carlton2 but if you had a command from a benevolent ,prince1 your own ,sovereign and ,benefactor1 to go along the road steadily till evening1 and he would meet you at the end of your journey1 you would be quite sure that he who had appointed the end had also assigned the means4 ,and1 in the difficulty in question1 you ought to look out for some mode of opening the gate1 or some gap in the hedge1 or some parallel cut1 some way or other1 which would enable you to turn the difficulty4 ,charles said that somehow he did not like this mode of arguing2 it seemed dangerous2 he did not see whither it went1 where it ended4 ,presently he said1 abruptly1 ,why do you think there are more difficulties in the ,church of ,rome8 ,clearly there are1 answered ,carlton2 if the ,articles are a crust1 is not ,pope ,pius's ,creed a bone8 ,i don't know ,pope ,pius's ,creed1 said ,charles2 ,i know very little about the state of the case1 certainly4 ,what does it say8 ,oh1 it includes transubstantiation1 purgatory1 saint-worship1 and the rest1 said ,carlton2 ,i suppose you could not quite subscribe these8 ,it depends1 answered ,charles slowly1 on this--on what authority they came to me4 ,he stopped1 and then went on3 ,of course ,i could1 if they came to me on the same authority as the doctrine of the ,blessed ,trinity comes4 ,now1 the ,articles come on no authority2 they are the views of persons in the #afth century2 and1 again1 it is not clear how far they are1 or are not1 modified by the unauthoritative views of the #aith4 ,i am obliged1 then1 to exercise my own judgment2 and ,i candidly declare to you1 that my judgment is unequal to so great a task4 ,at least1 this is what troubles me1 whenever the subject rises in my mind2 for ,i have put it from me4 ,well1 then1 said ,carlton1 take them on faith4 ,you mean1 ,i suppose1 said ,charles1 that ,i must consider our ,church infallible4 ,carlton felt the difficulty2 he answered1 ,no1 but you must act as if it were infallible1 from a sense of duty4 ,charles smiled2 then he looked grave2 he stood still1 and his eyes fell4 ,if ,i am to make a ,church infallible1 he said1 if ,i must give up private judgment1 if ,i must act on faith1 there is a ,church which has a greater claim on us all than the ,church of ,england4 ,my dear ,reding1 said ,carlton1 with some emotion1 where did you get these notions8 ,i don't know1 answered ,charles2 somebody has said that they were in the air4 ,i have talked to no one1 except one or two arguments ,i had with different persons in my first year4 ,i have driven the subject from me2 but when ,i once begin1 you see it will out4 ,they walked on awhile in silence4 ,do you really mean to say1 asked ,carlton at length1 that it is so difficult to understand and receive the ,articles8 ,to me they are quite clear enough1 and speak the language of common sense4 ,well1 they seem to me1 said ,reding1 sometimes inconsistent with themselves1 sometimes with the ,prayer ,book2 so that ,i am suspicious of them2 ,i don't know what ,i am signing when ,i sign1 yet ,i ought to sign ex-animo4 ,a blind submission ,i could make2 ,i cannot make a blind declaration4 ,give me some instances1 said ,carlton4 ,for example1 said ,charles1 they distinctly receive the ,lutheran doctrine of justification by faith only1 which the ,prayer ,book virtually opposes in every one of its ,offices4 ,they refer to the ,homilies as authority1 yet the ,homilies speak of the books of the ,apocrypha as inspired1 which the ,articles implicitly deny4 ,the ,articles about ,ordination are in their spirit contrary to the ,ordination ,service4 ,one ,article on the ,sacraments speaks the doctrine of ,melancthon1 another that of ,calvin4 ,one ,article speaks of the ,church's authority in controversies of faith1 yet another makes ,scripture the ultimate appeal4 ,these are what occur to me at the moment4 ,surely1 many of these are but verbal difficulties1 at the very first glance1 said ,carlton1 and all may be surmounted with a little care4 ,on the other hand1 it has struck me1 continued ,charles1 that the ,church of ,rome is undeniably consistent in her formularies2 this is the very charge some of our writers make upon her1 that she is so systematic4 ,it may be a hard1 iron system1 but it is consistent4 ,carlton did not wish to interrupt him1 thinking it best to hear his whole difficulty2 so ,charles proceeded3 ,when a system is consistent1 at least it does not condemn itself4 ,consistency is not truth1 but truth is consistency4 ,now1 ,i am not a fit judge whether or not a certain system is true1 but ,i may be quite a judge whether it is consistent with itself4 ,when an oracle equivocates it carries with it its own condemnation4 ,i almost think there is something in ,scripture on this subject1 comparing in this respect the pagan and the inspired prophecies4 ,and this has struck me1 too1 that ,st4 ,paul gives this very account of a heretic1 that he is 'condemned of himself1' bearing his own condemnation on his face4 ,moreover1 ,i was once in the company of ,freeborn 7,i don't know if you are acquainted with him7 and others of the ,evangelical party1 and they showed plainly1 if they were to be trusted1 that ,luther and ,melancthon did not agree together on the prime point of justification by faith2 a circumstance which had not come into the ,article-lecture4 ,also ,i have read somewhere1 or heard in some sermon1 that the ancient heretics always were inconsistent1 never could state plainly their meaning1 much less agree together2 and thus1 whether they would or no1 could not help giving to the simple a warning of their true character1 as if by their rattle4 ,charles stopped2 presently he continued3 ,this too has struck me2 that either there is no prophet of the truth on earth1 or the ,church of ,rome is that prophet4 ,that there is a prophet still1 or apostle1 or messenger1 or teacher1 or whatever he is to be called1 seems evident by our believing in a visible ,church4 ,now common sense tells us what a messenger from ,god must be2 first1 he must not contradict himself1 as ,i have just been saying4 ,again1 a prophet of ,god can allow of no rival1 but denounces all who make a separate claim1 as the prophets do in ,scripture4 ,now1 it is impossible to say whether our ,church acknowledges or not ,lutheranism in ,germany1 ,calvinism in ,switzerland1 the ,nestorian and ,monophysite bodies in the ,east4 ,nor does it clearly tell us what view it takes of the ,church of ,rome4 ,the only place where it recognizes its existence is in the ,homilies1 and there it speaks of it as ,antichrist4 ,nor has the ,greek ,church any intelligible position in ,anglican doctrine4 ,on the other hand1 the ,church of ,rome has this prima facie mark of a prophet1 that1 like a prophet in ,scripture1 it admits no rival1 and anathematizes all doctrine counter to its own4 ,there's another thing3 a prophet of ,god is of course at home with his message2 he is not helpless and do-nothing in the midst of errors and in the war of opinions4 ,he knows what has been given him to declare1 how far it extends2 he can act as an umpire2 he is equal to emergencies4 ,this again tells in favour of the ,church of ,rome4 ,as age after age comes she is ever on the alert1 questions every new comer1 sounds the note of alarm1 hews down strange doctrine1 claims and locates and perfects what is new and true4 ,the ,church of ,rome inspires me with confidence2 ,i feel ,i can trust her4 ,it is another thing whether she is true2 ,i am not pretending now to decide that4 ,but ,i do not feel the like trust in our own ,church4 ,i love her more than ,i trust her4 ,she leaves me without faith4 ,now you see the state of my mind4 ,he fetched a deep1 sharp sigh1 as if he had got a load off him4 ,well1 said ,carlton1 when he had stopped1 this is all very pretty theory2 whether it holds in matter of fact1 is another question4 ,we have been accustomed hitherto to think ,chillingworth right1 when he talks of popes against popes1 councils against councils1 and so on4 ,certainly you will not be allowed by ,protestant controversialists to assume this perfect consistency in ,romish doctrine4 ,the truth is1 you have read very little2 and you judge of truth1 not by facts1 but by notions2 ,i mean1 you think it enough if a notion hangs together2 though you disavow it1 still1 in matter of fact1 consistency is truth to you4 ,whether facts answer to theories you cannot tell1 and you don't inquire4 ,now ,i am not well read in the subject1 but ,i know enough to be sure that ,romanists will have more work to prove their consistency than you anticipate4 ,for instance1 they appeal to the ,fathers1 yet put the ,pope above them2 they maintain the infallibility of the ,church1 and prove it by ,scripture1 and then they prove ,scripture by the ,church4 ,they think a ,general ,council infallible1 when1 but not before1 the ,pope has ratified it2 ,bellarmine1 ,i think1 gives a list of ,general ,councils which have erred4 ,and ,i never have been able to make out the ,romish doctrine of ,indulgences4 ,charles thought over this2 then he said1 ,perhaps the case is as you say1 that ,i ought to know the matter of fact more exactly before attempting to form a judgment on the subject2 but1 my dear ,carlton1 ,i protest to you1 and you may think with what distress ,i say it1 that if the ,church of ,rome is as ambiguous as our own ,church1 ,i shall be in the way to become a sceptic1 on the very ground that ,i shall have no competent authority to tell me what to believe4 ,the ,ethiopian said1 ',how can ,i know1 unless some man do teach me8' and ,st4 ,paul says1 ',faith cometh by hearing4' ,if no one claims my faith1 how can ,i exercise it8 ,at least ,i shall run the risk of becoming a ,latitudinarian2 for if ,i go by ,scripture only1 certainly there is no creed given us in ,scripture4 ,our business1 said ,carlton1 is to make the best of things1 not the worst4 ,do keep this in mind2 be on your guard against a strained and morbid view of things4 ,be cheerful1 be natural1 and all will be easy4 ,you are always kind and considerate1 said ,charles2 but1 after all--,i wish ,i could make you see it--you have not a word to say by way of meeting my original difficulty of subscription4 ,how am ,i to leap over the wall8 ,it's nothing to the purpose that other communions have their walls also4 ,they now neared home1 and concluded their walk in silence1 each being fully occupied with the thoughts which the conversation had suggested4 ,,chapter ,,ix4 ,the ,vacation passed away silently and happily4 ,day succeeded day in quiet routine employments1 bringing insensible but sure accessions to the stock of knowledge and to the intellectual proficiency of both our students4 ,historians and orators were read for a last time1 and laid aside2 sciences were digested2 commentaries were run through2 and analyses and abstracts completed4 ,it was emphatically a silent toil4 ,while others might be steaming from ,london to ,bombay or the ,havannah1 and months in the retrospect might look like years1 with ,reding and ,sheffield the week had scarcely begun when it was found to be ending2 and when ,october came1 and they saw their ,oxford friends again1 at first they thought they had a good deal to say to them1 but when they tried1 they found it did but concern minute points of their own reading and personal matters2 and they were reduced to silence with the wish to speak4 ,the season had changed1 and reminded them that ,horsley was a place for summer sojourn1 not a dwelling4 ,there were heavy raw fogs hanging about the hills1 and storms of wind and rain4 ,the grass no longer afforded them a seat2 and when they betook themselves indoors it was discovered that the doors and windows did not shut close1 and that the chimney smoked4 ,then came those fruits1 the funeral feast of the year1 mulberries and walnuts2 the tasteless1 juiceless walnut2 the dark mulberry1 juicy but severe1 and mouldy withal1 as gathered not from the tree1 but from the damp earth4 ,and thus that green spot itself weaned them from the love of it4 ,charles looked around him1 and rose to depart as a conviva satur4 ,edisti satis1 tempus abire seemed written upon all4 ,the swallows had taken leave2 the leaves were paling2 the light broke late1 and failed soon4 ,the hopes of spring1 the peace and calm of summer1 had given place to the sad realities of autumn4 ,he was hurrying to the world1 who had been up on the mount2 he had lived without jars1 without distractions1 without disappointments2 and he was now to take them as his portion4 ,for he was but a child of ,adam2 ,horsley had been but a respite2 and he had vividly presented to his memory the sad reverse which came upon him two years before--what a happy summer--what a forlorn autumn6 ,with these thoughts1 he put up his books and papers1 and turned his face towards ,st4 ,saviour's4 ,oxford1 too1 was not quite what it had been to him2 the freshness of his admiration for it was over2 he now saw defects where at first all was excellent and good2 the romance of places and persons had passed away4 ,and there were changes too3 of his contemporaries some had already taken their degrees and left2 others were reading in the country2 others had gone off to other ,colleges on ,fellowships4 ,a host of younger faces had sprung up in hall and chapel1 and he hardly knew their names4 ,rooms which formerly had been his familiar lounge were now tenanted by strangers1 who claimed to have that right in them which1 to his imagination1 could only attach to those who had possessed them when he himself came into residence4 ,the ,college seemed to have deteriorated2 there was a rowing set1 which had not been there before1 a number of boys1 and a large proportion of snobs4 ,but1 what was a real trouble to ,charles1 it got clearer and clearer to his apprehension that his intimacy with ,sheffield was not quite what it had been4 ,they had1 indeed1 passed the ,vacation together1 and saw of each other more than ever3 but their sympathies in each other were not as strong1 they had not the same likings and dislikings2 in short1 they had not such congenial minds as they fancied when they were freshmen4 ,there was not so much heart in their conversations1 and they more easily endured to miss each other's company4 ,they were both reading for honours--reading hard2 but ,sheffield's whole heart was in his work1 and religion was but a secondary matter to him4 ,he had no doubts1 difficulties1 anxieties1 sorrows1 which much affected him4 ,it was not the certainty of faith which made a sunshine to his soul1 and dried up the mists of human weakness2 rather1 he had no perceptible need within him of that vision of the ,unseen which is the ,christian's life4 ,he was unblemished in his character1 exemplary in his conduct2 but he was content with what the perishable world gave him4 ,charles's characteristic1 perhaps above anything else1 was an habitual sense of the ,divine ,presence2 a sense which1 of course1 did not insure uninterrupted conformity of thought and deed to itself1 but still there it was--the pillar of the cloud before him and guiding him4 ,he felt himself to be ,god's creature1 and responsible to ,him--,god's possession1 not his own4 ,he had a great wish to succeed in the schools2 a thrill came over him when he thought of it2 but ambition was not his life2 he could have reconciled himself in a few minutes to failure4 ,thus disposed1 the only subjects on which the two friends freely talked together were connected with their common studies4 ,they read together1 examined each other1 used and corrected each other's papers1 and solved each other's difficulties4 ,perhaps it scarcely came home to ,sheffield1 sharp as he was1 that there was any flagging of their intimacy4 ,religious controversy had been the food of his active intellect when it was novel2 now it had lost its interest1 and his books took its place4 ,but it was far different with ,charles2 he had felt interest in religious questions for their own sake2 and when he had deprived himself of the pursuit of them it had been a self-denial4 ,now1 then1 when they seemed forced on him again1 ,sheffield could not help him1 where he most wanted the assistance of a friend4 ,a still more tangible trial was coming on him4 ,the reader has to be told that there was at that time a system of espionage prosecuted by various well-meaning men1 who thought it would be doing the ,university a service to point out such of its junior members as were what is called papistically inclined4 ,they did not perceive the danger such a course involved of disposing young men towards ,catholicism1 by attaching to them the bad report of it1 and of forcing them farther by inflicting on them the inconsistencies of their position4 ,ideas which would have lain dormant or dwindled away in their minds were thus fixed1 defined1 located within them2 and the fear of the world's censure no longer served to deter1 when it had been actually incurred4 ,when ,charles attended the tea-party at ,freeborn's he was on his trial2 he was introduced not only into a school1 but into an inquisition2 and since he did not promise to be a subject for spiritual impression1 he was forthwith a subject for spiritual censure4 ,he became a marked man in the circles of ,capel ,hall and ,st4 ,mark's4 ,his acquaintance with ,willis2 the questions he had asked at the ,article-lecture2 stray remarks at wine-parties--were treasured up1 and strengthened the case against him4 ,one time1 on coming into his rooms1 he found ,freeborn1 who had entered to pay him a call1 prying into his books4 ,a volume of sermons1 of the school of the day1 borrowed of a friend for the sake of illustrating ,aristotle1 lay on his table2 and in his bookshelves one of the more philosophical of the ,tracts for the ,times was stuck in between a ,hermann ,de ,metris and a ,thucydides4 ,another day his bedroom door was open1 and ,no4 #b of the tea-party saw one of ,overbeck's sacred prints pinned up against the wall4 ,facts like these were1 in most cases1 delated to the ,head of the ,house to which a young man belonged2 who1 as a vigilant guardian of the purity of his undergraduates' ,protestantism1 received the information with thankfulness1 and perhaps asked the informer to dinner4 ,it cannot be denied that in some cases this course of action succeeded in frightening and sobering the parties towards whom it was directed4 ,white was thus reclaimed to be a devoted son and useful minister of the ,church of ,england2 but it was a kill-or-cure remedy1 and not likely to answer with the more noble or the more able minds4 ,what effect it had upon ,charles1 or whether any1 must be determined by the sequel2 here it will suffice to relate interviews which took place between him and the ,principal and ,vice-,principal of his ,college in consequence of it4 ,,chapter ,x4 ,when ,reding presented himself to the ,vice-,principal1 the ,rev4 ,joshua ,jennings1 to ask for leave to reside in lodgings for the two terms previous to his examination1 he was met with a courteous but decided refusal4 ,it took him altogether by surprise2 he had considered the request as a mere matter of form4 ,he sat half a minute silent1 and then rose to take his departure4 ,the colour came to his cheek2 it was a repulse inflicted only on idle men who could not be trusted beyond the eye of the ,dean of the ,college4 ,the ,vice-,principal seemed to expect him to ask the reason of his proceeding2 as ,charles1 in his confusion1 did not seem likely to do so1 he condescended to open the conversation4 ,it was not meant as any reflection1 he said1 on ,mr4 ,reding's moral conduct2 he had ever been a well-conducted young man1 and had quite carried out the character with which he had come from school2 but there were duties to be observed towards the community1 and its undergraduate portion must be protected from the contagion of principles which were too rife at the moment4 ,charles was1 if possible1 still more surprised1 and suggested that there must be some misunderstanding if he had been represented to the ,vice-,principal as connected with any so-called party in the place4 ,you don't mean to deny that there is a party1 ,mr4 ,reding1 answered the ,college authority1 by that form of expression8 ,he was a lean1 pale person1 with a large hook-nose and spectacles2 and seemed1 though a liberal in creed1 to be really a nursling of that early age when ,anabaptists fed the fires of ,smithfield4 ,from his years1 practised talent1 and position1 he was well able to browbeat an unhappy juvenile who incurred his displeasure2 and1 though he really was a kind-hearted man at bottom1 he not unfrequently misused his power4 ,charles did not know how to answer his question2 and on his silence it was repeated4 ,at length he said that really he was not in a condition to speak against any one2 and if he spoke of a so-called party1 it was that he might not seem disrespectful to some who might be better men than himself4 ,mr4 ,vice was silent1 but not from being satisfied4 ,what would you call a party1 ,mr4 ,reding8 he said at length2 what would be your definition of it8 ,charles paused to think2 at last he said3 ,persons who band together on their own authority for the maintenance of views of their own4 ,and will you say that these gentlemen have not views of their own8 asked ,mr4 ,jennings4 ,charles assented4 ,what is your view of the ,thirty-nine ,articles8 said the ,vice-,principal abruptly4 ,my view6 thought ,charles2 what can he mean8 my view of the ,articles6 like my opinion of things in general4 ,does he mean my 'view' whether they are ,english or ,latin1 long or short1 good or bad1 expedient or not1 ,catholic or not1 ,calvinistic or ,erastian8 ,meanwhile ,jennings kept steadily regarding him1 and ,charles got more and more confused4 ,i think1 he said1 making a desperate snatch at authoritative words1 ,i think that the ,articles 'contain a godly and wholesome doctrine1 and necessary for these times4' ,that is the ,second ,book of ,homilies1 ,mr4 ,reding1 not the ,articles4 ,besides1 ,i want your own opinion on the subject4 ,he proceeded1 after a pause3 ,what is justification8 ,justification1 444 said ,charles1 repeating the word1 and thinking2 then1 in the words of the ,article1 he went on3 ,we are accounted righteous before ,god1 but only for the merit of our ,lord ,jesus ,christ1 by faith1 and not by our own works and deservings4 ,right1 said ,jennings2 but you have not answered my question4 ,what is justification8 ,this was very hard1 for it was one of ,charles's puzzles what justification was in itself1 for the ,articles do not define it any more than faith4 ,he answered to this effect1 that the ,articles did not define it4 ,the ,vice-,principal looked dissatisfied4 ,can ,general ,councils err8 ,yes1 answered ,charles4 ,this was right4 ,what do ,romanists say about them8 ,they think they err1 too4 ,this was all wrong4 ,no1 said ,jennings1 they think them infallible4 ,charles was silent2 ,jennings tried to force his decision upon him4 ,at length ,charles said that ,only some ,general ,councils were admitted as infallible by the ,romanists1 and he believed that ,bellarmine gave a list of ,general ,councils which had erred4 ,another pause1 and a gathering cloud on ,jennings' brow4 ,he returned to his former subject4 ,in what sense do you understand the ,articles1 ,mr4 ,reding8 he asked4 ,that was more than ,charles could tell2 he wished very much to know the right sense of them2 so he beat about for the received answer4 ,in the sense of ,scripture1 he said4 ,this was true1 but nugatory4 ,rather1 said ,jennings1 you understand ,scripture in the sense of the ,articles4 ,charles assented for peace-sake4 ,but his concession availed not2 the ,vice-,principal pursued his advantage4 ,they must not interpret each other1 ,mr4 ,reding1 else you revolve in a circle4 ,let me repeat my question4 ,in what sense do you interpret the ,articles8 ,i wish to take them1 ,reding answered1 in the general and received sense of our ,church1 as all our divines and present ,bishops take them4 ,the ,vice-,principal looked pleased4 ,charles could not help being candid1 and said in a lower tone1 as if words of course1 ,that is1 on faith4 ,this put all wrong again4 ,jennings would not allow this2 it was a blind1 ,popish reliance2 it was very well1 when he first came to the ,university1 before he had read the ,articles1 to take them on trust2 but a young man who had had the advantages of ,mr4 ,reding1 who had been three years at ,st4 ,saviour's ,college1 and had attended the ,article-lectures1 ought to hold the received view1 not only as being received1 but as his own1 with a free intellectual assent4 ,he went on to ask him by what texts he proved the ,protestant doctrine of justification4 ,charles gave two or three of the usual passages with such success1 that the ,vice-,principal was secretly beginning to relent1 when1 unhappily1 on asking a last question as a matter of course1 he received an answer which confirmed all his former surmises4 ,what is our ,church's doctrine concerning the intercession of ,saints8 ,charles said that he did not recollect that it had expressed any opinion on the subject4 ,jennings bade him think again2 ,charles thought in vain4 ,well1 what is your opinion of it1 ,mr4 ,reding8 ,charles1 believing it to be an open point1 thought he should be safe in imitating our ,church's moderation4 ,there are different opinions on the subject1 he said3 some persons think they intercede for us1 others1 that they do not4 ,it is easy to go into extremes2 perhaps better to avoid such questions altogether2 better to go by ,scripture2 the book of ,revelation speaks of the intercession of ,saints1 but does not expressly say that they intercede for us1 c41 c4 ,jennings sat upright in his easy-chair1 with indignation mounting into his forehead4 ,at length his face became like night4 ,that is your opinion1 ,mr4 ,reding4 ,charles began to be frightened4 ,please to take up that ,prayer ,book and turn to the #bbnd ,article4 ,now begin reading it4 ,the ,romish doctrine1 said ,charles1--the ,romish doctrine concerning purgatory1 pardon1 worshipping and adoration as well of images as of relics1 and also invocation of ,saints---- ,stop there1 said the ,vice-,principal2 read those words again4 ,and also invocation of ,saints4 ,now1 ,mr4 ,reding4 ,charles was puzzled1 thought he had made some blunder1 could not find it1 and was silent4 ,well1 ,mr4 ,reding8 ,charles at length said that he thought ,mr4 ,jennings had spoken about intercession4 ,so ,i did1 he made answer4 ,and this1 said ,charles timidly1 speaks of invocation4 ,jennings gave a little start in his arm-chair1 and slightly coloured4 ,eh8 he said2 give me the book4 ,he slowly read the ,article1 and then cast a cautious eye over the page before and after4 ,there was no help for it4 ,he began again4 ,and so1 ,mr4 ,reding1 you actually mean to shelter yourself by that subtle distinction between invocation and intercession2 as if ,papists did not invoke in order to gain the ,saints' intercession1 and as if the ,saints were not supposed by them to intercede in answer to invocation8 ,the terms are correlative4 ,intercession of ,saints1 instead of being an extreme only1 as you consider1 is a ,romish abomination4 ,i am ashamed of you1 ,mr4 ,reding2 ,i am pained and hurt that a young man of your promise1 of good ability1 and excellent morals1 should be guilty of so gross an evasion of the authoritative documents of our ,church1 such an outrage upon common sense1 so indecent a violation of the terms on which alone he was allowed to place his name on the books of this society4 ,i could not have a clearer proof that your mind has been perverted--,i fear ,i must use a stronger term1 debauched--by the sophistries and jesuistries which unhappily have found entrance among us4 ,good morning1 ,mr4 ,reding4 ,so it was a thing settled3 ,charles was to be sent home1--an endurable banishment4 ,before he went down he paid a visit of form to the old ,principal--a worthy man in his generation1 who before now had been a good parish priest1 had instructed the ignorant and fed the poor2 but now in the end of his days1 falling on evil times1 was permitted1 for inscrutable purposes1 to give evidence of that evil puritanical leaven which was a secret element of his religion4 ,he had been kind to ,charles hitherto1 which made his altered manner more distressing to him4 ,we had hoped1 he said1 ,mr4 ,reding1 that so good a young man as you once were would have gained a place on some foundation1 and been settled here1 and been a useful man in his generation1 sir2 and a column1 a buttress of the ,church of ,england1 sir4 ,well1 sir1 here are my best wishes for you1 sir4 ,when you come up for your ,master's degree1 sir--no1 ,i think it is your ,bachelor's--which is it1 ,mr4 ,reding1 are you yet a ,bachelor8 oh1 ,i see your gown4 ,charles said he had not yet been into the schools4 ,well1 sir1 when you come up to be examined1 ,i should say--to be examined--we will hope that in the interval1 reflection1 and study1 and absence perhaps from dangerous companions1 will have brought you to a soberer state of mind1 ,mr4 ,reding4 ,charles was shocked at the language used about him4 ,really1 sir1 he said1 if you knew me better1 you would feel that ,i am likely neither to receive nor do harm by remaining here between this and ,easter4 ,what6 remain here1 sir1 with all the young men about8 asked ,dr4 ,bluett1 with astonishment1 with all the young men about you1 sir8 ,charles really had not a word to say2 he did not know himself in so novel a position4 ,i cannot conceive1 sir1 he said1 at last1 why ,i should be unfit company for the gentlemen of the ,college4 ,dr4 ,bluett's jaw dropped1 and his eyes assumed a hollow aspect4 ,you will corrupt their minds1 sir1 he said1--you will corrupt their minds4 ,then he added1 in a sepulchral tone1 which came from the very depths of his inside3 ,you will introduce them1 sir1 to some subtle ,jesuit--to some subtle ,jesuit1 ,mr4 ,reding4 ,,chapter ,,xi4 ,mrs4 ,reding was by this time settled in the neighbourhood of old friends in ,devonshire2 and there ,charles spent the winter and early spring with her and his three sisters1 the eldest of whom was two years older than himself4 ,come1 shut your dull books1 ,charles1 said ,caroline1 the youngest1 a girl of fourteen2 make way for the tea2 ,i am sure you have read enough4 ,you sometimes don't speak a word for an hour together2 at least1 you might tell us what you are reading about4 ,my dear ,carry1 you would not be much the wiser if ,i did1 answered ,charles2 it is ,greek history4 ,oh1 said ,caroline1 ,i know more than you think2 ,i have read ,goldsmith1 and good part of ,rollin1 besides ,pope's ,homer4 ,capital6 said ,charles2 well1 ,i am reading about ,pelopidas--who was he8 ,pelopidas6 answered ,caroline1 ,i ought to know4 ,oh1 ,i recollect1 he had an ivory shoulder4 ,well said1 ,carry2 but ,i have not yet a distinct idea of him either4 ,was he a statue1 or flesh and blood1 with this shoulder of his8 ,oh1 he was alive2 somebody ate him1 ,i think4 ,well1 was he a god or a man8 said ,charles4 ,oh1 it's a mistake of mine1 said ,caroline2 he was a goddess1 the ivory-footed--no1 that was ,thetis4 ,my dear ,caroline1 said her mother1 do not talk so at random2 think before you speak2 you know better than this4 ,she has1 ma'am1 said ,charles1 what ,mr4 ,jennings would call 'a very inaccurate mind4' ,i recollect perfectly now1 said ,caroline1 he was a friend of ,epaminondas4 ,when did he live8 asked ,charles4 ,caroline was silent4 ,oh1 ,carry1 said ,eliza1 don't you recollect the memoria technica8 ,i never could learn it1 said ,caroline2 ,i hate it4 ,nor can ,i1 said ,mary2 give me good native numbers2 they are sweet and kindly1 like flowers in a bed2 but ,i don't like your artificial flower-pots4 ,but surely1 said ,charles1 a memoria technica makes you recollect a great many dates which you otherwise could not8 ,the crabbed names are more difficult even to pronounce than the numbers to learn1 said ,caroline4 ,that's because you have very few dates to get up1 said ,charles2 but common writing is a memoria technica4 ,that's beyond ,caroline1 said ,mary4 ,what are words but artificial signs for ideas8 said ,charles2 they are more musical1 but as arbitrary4 ,there is no more reason why the sound 'hat' should mean the particular thing so called1 which we put on our heads1 than why 'abul-distof' should stand for #aebj4 ,oh1 my dear child1 said ,mrs4 ,reding1 how you run on6 ,don't be paradoxical4 ,my dear mother1 said ,charles1 coming round to the fire1 ,i don't want to be paradoxical2 it's only a generalization4 ,keep it1 then1 for the schools1 my dear2 ,i dare say it will do you good there1 continued ,mrs4 ,reding1 while she continued her hemming2 poor ,caroline will be as much put to it in logic as in history4 ,i am in a dilemma1 said ,charles1 as he seated himself on a little stool at his mother's feet2 for ,carry calls me stupid if ,i am silent1 and you call me paradoxical if ,i speak4 ,good sense1 said his mother1 is the golden mean4 ,and what is common sense8 said ,charles4 ,the silver mean1 said ,eliza4 ,well done1 said ,charles2 it is small change for every hour4 ,rather1 said ,caroline1 it is the copper mean1 for we want it1 like alms for the poor1 to give away4 ,people are always asking me for it4 ,if ,i can't tell who ,isaac's father was1 ,mary says1 ',o ,carry1 where's your common sense8' ,if ,i am going out of doors1 ,eliza runs up1 ',carry1' she cries1 'you haven't common sense2 your shawl's all pinned awry4' ,and when ,i ask mamma the shortest way across the fields to ,dalton1 she says1 ',use your common sense1 my dear4' ,no wonder you have so little of it1 poor dear child1 said ,charles2 no bank could stand such a run4 ,no such thing1 said ,mary2 it flows into her bank ten times as fast as it comes out4 ,she has plenty of it from us2 and what she does with it no one can make out2 she either hoards or she speculates4 ',like the great ocean1' said ,charles1 'which receives the rivers1 yet is not full4' ,that's somewhere in ,scripture1 said ,eliza4 ,in the ',preacher1' said ,charles1 and he continued the quotation2 ',all things are full of labour1 man cannot utter it2 the eye is not satisfied with seeing1 nor the ear filled with hearing4' ,his mother sighed2 ,take my cup1 my love1 she said2 no more4 ,i know why ,charles is so fond of the ',preacher1' said ,mary2 it's because he's tired of reading2 'much study is a weariness to the flesh4' ,i wish we could help you1 dear ,charles4 ,my dear boy1 ,i really think you read too much1 said his mother2 only think how many hours you have been at it to-day4 ,you are always up one or two hours before the sun2 and ,i don't think you have had your walk to-day4 ,it's so dismal walking alone1 my dear mother2 and as to walking with you and my sisters1 it's pleasant enough1 but no exercise4 ,but1 ,charlie1 said ,mary1 that's absurd of you2 these nice sunny days1 which you could not expect at this season1 are just the time for long walks4 ,why don't you resolve to make straight for the plantations1 or to mount ,hart ,hill1 or go right through ,dun ,wood and back8 ,because all woods are dun and dingy just now1 ,mary1 and not green4 ,it's quite melancholy to see them4 ,just the finest time of the year1 said his mother2 it's universally allowed2 all painters say that the autumn is the season to see a landscape in4 ,all gold and russet1 said ,mary4 ,it makes me melancholy1 said ,charles4 ,what6 the beautiful autumn make you melancholy8 asked his mother4 ,oh1 my dear mother1 you mean to say that ,i am paradoxical again2 ,i cannot help it4 ,i like spring2 but autumn saddens me4 ,charles always says so1 said ,mary2 he thinks nothing of the rich hues into which the sober green changes2 he likes the dull uniform of summer4 ,no1 it is not that1 said ,charles2 ,i never saw anything so gorgeous as ,magdalen ,water-walk1 for instance1 in ,october2 it is quite wonderful1 the variety of colours4 ,i admire1 and am astonished2 but ,i cannot love or like it4 ,it is because ,i can't separate the look of things from what it portends2 that rich variety is but the token of disease and death4 ,surely1 said ,mary1 colours have their own intrinsic beauty2 we may like them for their own sake4 ,no1 no1 said ,charles1 we always go by association2 else why not admire raw beef1 or a toad1 or some other reptiles1 which are as beautiful and bright as tulips or cherries1 yet revolting1 because we consider what they are1 not how they look8 ,what next8 said his mother1 looking up from her work2 my dear ,charles1 you are not serious in comparing cherries to raw beef or to toads8 ,no1 my dear mother1 answered ,charles1 laughing1 no1 ,i only say that they look like them1 not are like them4 ,a toad look like a cherry1 ,charles6 persisted ,mrs4 ,reding4 ,oh1 my dear mother1 he answered1 ,i can't explain2 ,i really have said nothing out of the way4 ,mary does not think ,i have4 ,but1 said ,mary1 why not associate pleasant thoughts with autumn8 ,it is impossible1 said ,charles2 it is the sick season and the deathbed of ,nature4 ,i cannot look with pleasure on the decay of the mother of all living4 ,the many hues upon the landscape are but the spots of dissolution4 ,this is a strained1 unnatural view1 ,charles1 said ,mary2 shake yourself1 and you will come to a better mind4 ,don't you like to see a rich sunset8 yet the sun is leaving you4 ,charles was for a moment posed2 then he said1 ,yes1 but there was no autumn in ,eden2 suns rose and set in ,paradise1 but the leaves were always green1 and did not wither4 ,there was a river to feed them4 ,autumn is the 'fall4' ,so1 my dearest ,charles1 said ,mrs4 ,reding1 you don't go out walking these fine days because there was no autumn in the garden of ,eden8 ,oh1 said ,charles1 laughing1 it is cruel to bring me so to book4 ,what ,i meant was1 that my reading was a direct obstacle to walking1 and that the fine weather did not tempt me to remove it4 ,i am glad we have you here1 my dear1 said his mother1 for we can force you out now and then2 at ,college ,i suspect you never walk at all4 ,it's only for a time1 ma'am1 said ,charles2 when my examination is over1 ,i will take as long walks as ,i did with ,edward ,gandy that winter after ,i left school4 ,ah1 how merry you were then1 ,charles6 said ,mary2 so happy with the thoughts of ,oxford before you6 ,ah1 my dear1 said ,mrs4 ,reding1 you'll then walk too much1 as you now walk too little4 ,my good boy1 you are so earnest about everything4 ,it's a shame to find fault with him for being diligent1 said ,mary3 you like him to read for honours1 ,i know1 mamma2 but if he is to get them he must read a great deal4 ,true1 my love1 answered ,mrs4 ,reding2 ,charles is a dear good fellow1 ,i know4 ,how glad we all shall be to have him ordained1 and settled in a curacy6 ,charles sighed4 ,come1 ,mary1 he said1 give us some music1 now the urn has gone away4 ,play me that beautiful air of ,beethoven1 the one ,i call ',the ,voice of the ,dead4' ,oh1 ,charles1 you do give such melancholy names to things6 cried ,mary4 ,the other day1 said ,eliza1 we had a most beautiful scent wafted across the road as we were walking1 and he called it 'the ,ghost of the ,past2' and he says that the sound of the ,eolian harp is 'remorseful4' ,now1 you'd think all that very pretty1 said ,charles1 if you saw it in a book of poems2 but you call it melancholy when ,i say it4 ,oh1 yes1 said ,caroline1 because poets never mean what they say1 and would not be poetical unless they were melancholy4 ,well1 said ,mary1 ,i play to you1 ,charles1 on this one condition1 that you let me give you some morning a serious lecture on that melancholy of yours1 which1 ,i assure you is growing on you4 ,,chapter ,,xii4 ,charles's perplexities rapidly took a definite form on his coming into ,devonshire4 ,the very fact of his being at home1 and not at ,oxford where he ought to have been1 brought them before his mind2 and the near prospect of his examination and degree justified the consideration of them4 ,no addition indeed was made to their substance1 as already described2 but they were no longer vague and indistinct1 but thoroughly apprehended by him2 nor did he make up his mind that they were insurmountable1 but he saw clearly what it was that had to be surmounted4 ,the particular form of argument into which they happened to fall was determined by the circumstances in which he found himself at the time1 and was this1 viz4 how he could subscribe the ,articles ex animo1 without faith1 more or less1 in his ,church as the imponent2 and next1 how he could have faith in her1 her history and present condition being what they were4 ,the fact of these difficulties was a great source of distress to him4 ,it was aggravated by the circumstance that he had no one to talk to1 or to sympathize with him under them4 ,and it was completed by the necessity of carrying about with him a secret which he dared not tell to others1 yet which he foreboded must be told one day4 ,all this was the secret of that depression of spirits which his sisters had observed in him4 ,he was one day sitting thoughtfully over the fire with a book in his hand1 when ,mary entered4 ,i wish you would teach me the art of reading ,greek in live coals1 she said4 ,sermons in stones1 and good in everything1 answered ,charles4 ,you do well to liken yourself to the melancholy ,jaques1 she replied4 ,not so1 said he1 but to the good ,duke ,charles1 who was banished to the green forest4 ,a great grievance1 answered ,mary1 we being the wild things with whom you are forced to live4 ,my dear ,charles1 she continued1 ,i hope the tittle-tattle that drove you here does not still dwell on your mind4 ,why1 it is not very pleasant1 ,mary1 after having been on the best terms with the whole ,college1 and in particular with the ,principal and ,jennings1 at last to be sent down1 as a rowing-man might be rusticated for tandem-driving4 ,you have no notion how strong the old ,principal was1 and ,jennings too4 ,well1 my dearest ,charles1 you must not brood over it1 said ,mary1 as ,i fear you are doing4 ,i don't see where it is to end1 said ,charles2 the ,principal expressly said that my prospects at the ,university were knocked up4 ,i suppose they would not give me a testimonial1 if ,i wished to stand for a fellowship anywhere4 ,oh1 it is a temporary mistake1 said ,mary2 ,i dare say by this time they know better4 ,and it's one great gain to have you with us2 we1 at least1 ought to be obliged to them4 ,i have been so very careful1 ,mary1 said ,charles2 ,i have never been to the evening-parties1 or to the sermons which are talked about in the ,university4 ,it's quite amazing to me what can have put it into their heads4 ,at the ,article-lecture ,i now and then asked a question1 but it was really because ,i wished to understand and get up the different subjects4 ,jennings fell on me the moment ,i entered his room4 ,i can call it nothing else2 very civil at first in his manner1 but there was something in his eye before he spoke which told me at once what was coming4 ,it's odd a man of such self-command as he should not better hide his feelings2 but ,i have always been able to see what ,jennings was thinking about4 ,depend on it1 said his sister1 you will think nothing of it whatever this time next year4 ,it will be like a summer-cloud1 come and gone4 ,and then it damps me1 and interrupts me in my reading4 ,i fall back thinking of it1 and cannot give my mind to my books1 or exert myself4 ,it is very hard4 ,mary sighed2 ,i wish ,i could help you1 she said2 but women can do so little4 ,come1 let me take the fretting1 and you the reading2 that'll be a fair division4 ,and then my dear mother too1 he continued2 what will she think of it when it comes to her ears8 and come it must4 ,nonsense1 said ,mary1 don't make a mountain of a mole-hill4 ,you will go back1 take your degree1 and nobody will be the wiser4 ,no1 it can't be so1 said ,charles seriously4 ,what do you mean8 asked ,mary4 ,these things don't clear off in that way1 said he2 it is no summer-cloud2 it may turn to rain1 for what they know4 ,mary looked at him with some surprise4 ,i mean1 he said1 that ,i have no confidence that they will let me take my degree1 any more than let me reside there4 ,that is very absurd1 said she2 it's what ,i meant by brooding over things1 and making mountains of mole-hills4 ,my sweet ,mary1 he said1 affectionately taking her hand1 my only real confidant and comfort1 ,i would tell you something more1 if you could bear it4 ,mary was frightened1 and her heart beat4 ,charles1 she said1 withdrawing her hand1 any pain is less than to see you thus4 ,i see too clearly that something is on your mind4 ,charles put his feet on the fender1 and looked down4 ,i can't tell you1 he said1 at length1 with vehemence2 then1 seeing by her face how much he was distressing her1 he said1 half-laughing1 as if to turn the edge of his words1 ,my dear ,mary1 when people bear witness against one1 one can't help fearing that there is1 perhaps1 something to bear witness against4 ,impossible1 ,charles6 you corrupt other people6 you falsify the ,prayer ,book and ,articles6 impossible6 ,mary1 which do you think would be the best judge whether my face was dirty and my coat shabby1 you or ,i8 ,well1 then1 perhaps ,jennings1 or at least common report1 knows more about me than ,i do myself4 ,you must not speak in this way1 said ,mary1 much hurt2 you really do pain me now4 ,what can you mean8 ,charles covered his face with his hands1 and at length said3 ,it's no good2 you can't assist me here2 ,i only pain you4 ,i ought not to have begun the subject4 ,there was a silence4 ,my dearest ,charles1 said ,mary tenderly1 come1 ,i will bear anything1 and not be annoyed4 ,anything better than to see you go on in this way4 ,but really you frighten me4 ,why1 he answered1 when a number of people tell me that ,oxford is not my place1 not my position1 perhaps they are right2 perhaps it isn't4 ,but is that really all8 she said2 who wants you to lead an ,oxford life8 not we4 ,no1 but ,oxford implies taking a degree--taking orders4 ,now1 my dear ,charles1 speak out2 don't drop hints2 let me know2 and she sat down with a look of great anxiety4 ,well1 he said1 making an effort2 yet ,i don't know where to begin2 but many things have happened to me1 in various ways1 to show me that ,i have not a place1 a position1 a home1 that ,i am not made for1 that ,i am a stranger in1 the ,church of ,england4 ,there was a dreadful pause2 ,mary turned very pale2 then1 darting at a conclusion with precipitancy1 she said quickly1 ,you mean to say1 you are going to join the ,church of ,rome1 ,charles4 ,no1 he said1 it is not so4 ,i mean no such thing2 ,i mean just what ,i say2 ,i have told you the whole2 ,i have kept nothing back4 ,it is this1 and no more--that ,i feel out of place4 ,well1 then1 she said1 you must tell me more2 for1 to my apprehension1 you mean just what ,i have said1 nothing short of it4 ,i can't go through things in order1 he said2 but wherever ,i go1 whomever ,i talk with1 ,i feel him to be another sort of person from what ,i am4 ,i can't convey it to you2 you won't understand me2 but the words of the ,psalm1 ',i am a stranger upon earth1' describe what ,i always feel4 ,no one thinks or feels like me4 ,i hear sermons1 ,i talk on religious subjects with friends1 and every one seems to bear witness against me4 ,and now the ,college bears its witness1 and sends me down4 ,oh1 ,charles1 said ,mary1 how changed you are6 and tears came into her eyes2 you used to be so cheerful1 so happy4 ,you took such pleasure in every one1 in everything4 ,we used to laugh and say1 ',all ,charlie's geese are swans4' ,what has come over you8 ,she paused1 and then continued3 ,don't you recollect those lines in the ',christian ,year'8 ,i can't repeat them2 we used to apply them to you2 something about hope or love 'making all things bright with her own magic smile4' ,charles was touched when he was reminded of what he had been three years before2 he said3 ,i suppose it is coming out of shadows into realities4 ,there has been much to sadden you1 she added1 sighing2 and now these nasty books are too much for you4 ,why should you go up for honours8 what's the good of it8 ,there was a pause again4 ,i wish ,i could bring home to you1 said ,charles1 the number of intimations1 as it were1 which have been given me of my uncongeniality1 as it may be called1 with things as they are4 ,what perhaps most affected me1 was a talk ,i had with ,carlton1 whom ,i have lately been reading with2 for1 if ,i could not agree with him1 or rather1 if he bore witness against me1 who could be expected to say a word for me8 ,i cannot bear the pomp and pretence which ,i see everywhere4 ,i am not speaking against individuals2 they are very good persons1 ,i know2 but1 really1 if you saw ,oxford as it is6 ,the ,heads with such large incomes2 they are indeed very liberal of their money1 and their wives are often simple1 self-denying persons1 as every one says1 and do a great deal of good in the place2 but ,i speak of the system4 ,here are ministers of ,christ with large incomes1 living in finely furnished houses1 with wives and families1 and stately butlers and servants in livery1 giving dinners all in the best style1 condescending and gracious1 waving their hands and mincing their words1 as if they were the cream of the earth1 but without anything to make them clergymen but a black coat and a white tie4 ,and then ,bishops or ,deans come1 with women tucked under their arm2 and they can't enter church but a fine powdered man runs first with a cushion for them to sit on1 and a warm sheepskin to keep their feet from the stones4 ,mary laughed3 ,well1 my dear ,charles1 she said1 ,i did not think you had seen so much of ,bishops1 ,deans1 ,professors1 and ,heads of houses at ,st4 ,saviour's2 you have kept good company4 ,i have my eyes about me1 said ,charles1 and have had quite opportunities enough2 ,i can't go into particulars4 ,well1 you have been hard on them1 ,i think1 said ,mary2 when a poor old man has the rheumatism1 and she sighed a little1 it is hard he mayn't have his feet kept from the cold4 ,ah1 ,mary1 ,i can't bring it home to you6 but you must1 please1 throw yourself into what ,i say1 and not criticize my instances or my terms4 ,what ,i mean is1 that there is a worldly air about everything1 as unlike as possible the spirit of the ,gospel4 ,i don't impute to the dons ambition or avarice2 but still1 what ,heads of houses1 ,fellows1 and all of them evidently put before them as an end is1 to enjoy the world in the first place1 and to serve ,god in the second4 ,not that they don't make it their final object to get to heaven2 but their immediate object is to be comfortable1 to marry1 to have a fair income1 station1 and respectability1 a convenient house1 a pleasant country1 a sociable neighbourhood4 ,there is nothing high about them4 ,i declare ,i think the ,puseyites are the only persons who have high views in the whole place2 ,i should say1 the only persons who profess them1 for ,i don't know them to speak about them4 ,he thought of ,white4 ,well1 you are talking of things ,i don't know about1 said ,mary2 but ,i can't think all the young clever men of the place are looking out for ease and comfort2 nor can ,i believe that in the ,church of ,rome money has always been put to the best of purposes4 ,i said nothing about the ,church of ,rome1 said ,charles2 why do you bring in the ,church of ,rome8 that's another thing altogether4 ,what ,i mean is1 that there is a worldly smell about ,oxford which ,i can't abide4 ,i am not using 'worldly' in its worse sense4 ,people are religious and charitable2 but--,i don't like to mention names--but ,i know various dons1 and the notion of evangelical poverty1 the danger of riches1 the giving up all for ,christ1 all those ideas which are first principles in ,scripture1 as ,i read it1 don't seem to enter into their idea of religion4 ,i declare1 ,i think that is the reason why the ,puseyites are so unpopular4 ,well1 ,i can't see1 said ,mary1 why you must be disgusted with the world1 and with your place and duties in it1 because there are worldly people in it4 ,but ,i was speaking of ,carlton1 said ,charles2 do you know1 good fellow as he is--and ,i love1 admire1 and respect him exceedingly--he actually laid it down almost as an axiom1 that a clergyman of the ,english ,church ought to marry8 ,he said that celibacy might be very well in other communions1 but that a man made himself a fool1 and was out of joint with the age1 who remained single in the ,church of ,england4 ,poor ,charles was so serious1 and the proposition which he related was so monstrous1 that ,mary1 in spite of her real distress1 could not help laughing out4 ,i really cannot help it1 she said2 well1 it really was a most extraordinary statement1 ,i confess4 ,but1 my dear ,charlie1 you are not afraid that he will carry you off against your will1 and marry you to some fair lady before you know where you are8 ,don't talk in that way1 ,mary1 said ,charles2 ,i can't bear a joke just now4 ,i mean1 ,carlton is so sensible a man1 and takes so just a view of things1 that the conviction flashed on my mind1 that the ,church of ,england really was what he implied it to be--a form of religion very unlike that of the ,apostles4 ,this sobered ,mary indeed4 ,alas1 she said1 we have got upon very different ground now2 not what our ,church thinks of you1 but what you think of our ,church4 ,there was a pause4 ,i thought this was at the bottom1 she said2 ,i never could believe that a parcel of people1 some of whom you cared nothing for1 telling you that you were not in your place1 would make you think so1 unless you first felt it yourself4 ,that's the real truth2 and then you interpret what others say in your own way4 ,another uncomfortable pause4 ,then she continued3 ,i see how it will be4 ,when you take up a thing1 ,charles1 ,i know well you don't lay it down4 ,no1 you have made up your mind already4 ,we shall see you a ,roman ,catholic4 ,do you then bear witness against me1 ,mary1 as well as the rest8 said he sorrowfully4 ,she saw her mistake4 ,no1 she answered2 all ,i say is1 that it rests with yourself1 not with others4 ,if you have made up your mind1 there's no help for it4 ,it is not others who drive you1 who bear witness against you4 ,dear ,charles1 don't mistake me1 and don't deceive yourself4 ,you have a strong will4 ,at this moment ,caroline entered the room4 ,i could not think where you were1 ,mary1 she said2 here ,perkins has been crying after you ever so long4 ,it's something about dinner2 ,i don't know what4 ,we have hunted high and low1 and never guessed you were helping ,charles at his books4 ,mary gave a deep sigh1 and left the room4 ,,chapter ,,xiii4 ,neither to brother nor to sister had the conversation been a satisfaction or relief4 ,i can go nowhere for sympathy1 thought ,charles2 dear ,mary does not understand me more than others4 ,i can't bring out what ,i mean and feel2 and when ,i attempt to do so1 my statements and arguments seem absurd to myself4 ,it has been a great effort to tell her2 and in one sense it is a gain1 for it is a trial over4 ,else ,i have taken nothing by my move1 and might as well have held my tongue4 ,i have simply pained her without relieving myself4 ,by-the-bye1 she has gone off believing about twice as much as the fact4 ,i was going to set her right when ,carry came in4 ,my only difficulty is about taking orders2 and she thinks ,i am going to be a ,roman ,catholic4 ,how absurd6 but women will run on so2 give an inch1 and they take an ell4 ,i know nothing of the ,roman ,catholics4 ,the simple question is1 whether ,i should go to the ,bar or the ,church4 ,i declare1 ,i think ,i have made vastly too much of it myself4 ,i ought to have begun this way with her1--,i ought to have said1 ',d'you know1 ,i have serious thoughts of reading law8' ,i've made a hash of it4 ,poor ,mary1 on the other hand1 was in a confusion of thought and feeling as painful as it was new to her2 though for a time household matters and necessary duties towards her younger sisters occupied her mind in a different direction4 ,she had been indeed taken at her word2 little had she expected what would come on her when she engaged to take the fretting1 while he took the reading4 ,she had known what grief was1 not so long ago2 but not till now had she known anxiety4 ,charles's state of mind was a matter of simple astonishment to her4 ,at first it quite frightened and shocked her2 it was as if ,charles had lost his identity1 and had turned out some one else4 ,it was like a great breach of trust4 ,she had seen there was a good deal in the newspapers about the ,oxford party and their doings2 and at different places1 where she had been on visits1 she had heard of churches being done up in the new fashion1 and clergymen being accused1 in consequence1 of ,popery--a charge which she had laughed at4 ,but now it was actually brought home to her door that there was something in it4 ,yet it was to her incomprehensible1 and she hardly knew where she was4 ,and that1 of all persons in the world1 her brother1 her own ,charles1 with whom she had been one heart and soul all their lives--one so cheerful1 so religious1 so good1 so sensible1 so cautious1--that he should be the first specimen that crossed her path of the new opinions1--it bewildered her4 ,and where had he got his notions8--,notions6 she could not call them notions2 he had nothing to say for himself4 ,it was an infatuation2 he1 so clever1 so sharp-sighted1 could say nothing better in defence of himself than that ,mrs4 ,bishop of ,monmouth was too pretty1 and that old ,dr4 ,stock sat upon a cushion4 ,oh1 sad1 sad indeed6 ,how was it he could be so insensible to the blessings he gained from his ,church1 and had enjoyed all his life8 ,what could he need8 ,she had no need at all3 going to church was a pleasure to her4 ,she liked to hear the ,lessons and the ,collects1 coming round year after year1 and marking the seasons4 ,the historical books and prophets in summer2 then the stir-up ,collect just before ,advent2 the beautiful ,collects in ,advent itself1 with the ,lessons from ,isaiah reaching on through ,epiphany2 they were quite music to the ear4 ,then the ,psalms1 varying with every ,sunday2 they were a perpetual solace to her1 ever old yet ever new4 ,the occasional additions1 too--the ,athanasian ,creed1 the ,benedictus1 ,deus misereatur1 and ,omnia opera1 which her father had been used to read at certain great feasts2 and the beautiful ,litany4 ,what could he want more8 where could he find so much8 ,well1 it was a mystery to her2 and she could only feel thankful that she was not exposed to the temptations1 whatever they were1 which had acted on the powerful mind of her brother4 ,then1 she had anticipated how pleasant it would be when ,charles was a clergyman1 and she should hear him preach2 when there would be one whom she would have a right to ask questions and to consult whenever she wished4 ,this prospect was at an end2 she could no longer trust him3 he had given a shake to her confidence which it never could recover2 it was gone for ever4 ,they were all of them women but he2 he was their only stay1 now that her father had been taken away4 ,what was now to become of them8 ,to be abandoned by her own brother6 oh1 how terrible6 ,and how was she to break it to her mother8 for broken it must be sooner or later4 ,she could not deceive herself2 she knew her brother well enough to feel sure that1 when he had really got hold of a thing1 he would not let it go again without convincing reasons2 and what reasons there could be for letting it go she could not conceive1 if there could be reasons for taking it up4 ,the taking it up baffled all reason1 all calculation4 ,well1 but how was her mother to be told of it8 ,was it better to let her suspect it first1 and so break it to her1 or to wait till the event happened8 ,the problem was too difficult for the present1 and she must leave it4 ,this was her state for several days1 till her fever of mind gradually subsided into a state of which a dull anxiety was a latent but habitual element1 leaving her as usual at ordinary times1 but every now and then betraying itself by sudden sharp sighs or wanderings of thought4 ,neither brother nor sister1 loving each other really as much as ever1 had quite the same sweetness and evenness of temper as was natural to them2 self-control became a duty1 and the evening circle was duller than before1 without any one being able to say why4 ,charles was more attentive to his mother2 he no more brought his books into the drawing-room1 but gave himself to her company4 ,he read to them1 but he had little to talk about2 and ,eliza and ,caroline both wished his stupid examination1 past and over1 that he might be restored to his natural liveliness4 ,as to ,mrs4 ,reding1 she did not observe more than that her son was a very hard student1 and grudged himself a walk or ride1 let the day be ever so fine4 ,she was a mild1 quiet person1 of keen feelings and precise habits2 not very quick at observation2 and1 having lived all her life in the country1 and till her late loss having scarcely known what trouble was1 she was singularly unable to comprehend how things could go on in any way but one4 ,charles had not told her the real cause of his spending the winter at home1 thinking it would be a needless vexation to her2 much less did he contemplate harassing her with the recital of his own religious difficulties1 which were not appreciable by her1 and issued in no definite result4 ,to his sister he did attempt an explanation of his former conversation1 with a view of softening the extreme misgivings which it had created in her mind4 ,she received it thankfully1 and professed to be relieved by it2 but the blow was struck1 the suspicion was lodged deep in her mind--he was still ,charles1 dear to her as ever1 but she never could rid herself of the anticipation which on that occasion she had expressed4 ,,chapter ,,xiv4 ,one morning he was told that a gentleman had asked for him1 and been shown into the dining-room4 ,descending1 he saw the tall slender figure of ,bateman1 now a clergyman1 and lately appointed curate of a neighbouring parish4 ,charles had not seen him for a year and a half1 and shook hands with him very warmly1 complimenting him on his white neckcloth1 which somehow1 he said1 altered him more than he could have expected4 ,bateman's manner certainly was altered2 it might be the accident of the day1 but he did not seem quite at his ease2 it might be that he was in a strange house1 and was likely soon to be precipitated into the company of ladies1 to which he had never been used4 ,if so1 the trial was on the point of beginning1 for ,charles said instantly that he must come and see his mother1 and of course meant to dine with them2 the sky was clear1 and there was an excellent footpath between ,boughton and ,melford4 ,bateman could not do this1 but he would have the greatest pleasure in being introduced to ,mrs4 ,reding2 so he stumbled after ,charles into the drawing-room1 and was soon conversing with her and the young ladies4 ,a charming prospect you have here1 ma'am1 said ,bateman1 when you are once inside the house4 ,it does not promise outside so extensive a view4 ,no1 it is shut in with trees1 said ,mrs4 ,reding2 and the brow of the hill changes its direction so much that at first ,i used to think the prospect ought to be from the opposite windows4 ,what is that high hill8 said ,bateman4 ,it is ,hart ,hill1 said ,charles2 there's a ,roman camp atop of it4 ,we can see eight steeples from our windows1 said ,mrs4 ,reding2--ring the bell for luncheon1 my dear4 ,ah1 our ancestors1 ,mrs4 ,reding1 said ,bateman1 thought more of building churches than we do2 or rather than we have done1 ,i should say1 for now it is astonishing what efforts are made to add to our ecclesiastical structures4 ,our ancestors did a good deal too1 said ,mrs4 ,reding2 how many churches1 my dear1 were built in ,london in ,queen ,anne's time8 ,st4 ,martin's was one of them4 ,fifty1 said ,eliza4 ,fifty were intended1 said ,charles4 ,yes1 ,mrs4 ,reding1 said ,bateman2 but by ancestors ,i meant the holy ,bishops and other members of our ,catholic ,church previously to the ,reformation4 ,for1 though the ,reformation was a great blessing 7a glance at ,charles71 yet we must not1 in justice1 forget what was done by ,english ,churchmen before it4 ,ah1 poor creatures1 said ,mrs4 ,reding1 they did one good thing in building churches2 it has saved us much trouble4 ,is there much church-restoration going on in these parts8 said ,bateman1 taken rather aback4 ,my mother has but lately come here1 like yourself1 said ,charles2 yes1 there is some2 ,barton ,church1 you know1 appealing to ,mary4 ,have your walks extended so far as ,barton8 said ,mary to ,bateman4 ,not yet1 ,miss ,reding1 not yet1 answered he2 of course they are destroying the pews4 ,they are to put in seats1 said ,charles1 and of a very good pattern4 ,pews are intolerable1 said ,bateman2 yet the last generation of incumbents contentedly bore them2 it is wonderful6 ,a not unnatural silence followed this speech4 ,charles broke it by asking if ,bateman intended to do anything in the improvement line at ,melford4 ,bateman looked modest4 ,nothing of any consequence1 he said2 some few things were done2 but he had a rector of the old school1 poor man1 who was an enemy to that sort of thing4 ,it was with some malicious feeling1 in consequence of his attack on clergymen of the past age1 that ,charles pressed his visitor to give an account of his own reforms4 ,why1 said ,bateman1 much discretion is necessary in these matters1 or you do as much harm as good2 you get into hot water with churchwardens and vestries1 as well as with old rectors1 and again with the gentry of the place1 and please no one4 ,for this reason ,i have made no attempt to introduce the surplice into the pulpit except on the great festivals1 intending to familiarize my parishioners to it by little and little4 ,however1 ,i wear a scarf or stole1 and have taken care that it should be two inches broader than usual2 and ,i always wear the cassock in my parish4 ,i hope you approve of the cassock1 ,mrs4 ,reding8 ,it is a very cold dress1 sir--that's my opinion--when made of silk or bombazeen2 and very unbecoming too1 when worn by itself4 ,particularly behind1 said ,charles2 it is quite unshapely4 ,oh1 ,i have remedied that1 said ,bateman2 you have noticed1 ,miss ,reding1 ,i dare say1 the ,bishop's short cassock4 ,it comes to the knees1 and looks much like a continuation of a waistcoat1 the straight-cut coat being worn as usual4 ,well1 ,miss ,reding1 ,i have adopted the same plan with the long cassock2 ,i put my coat over it4 ,mary had difficulty to keep from smiling2 ,charles laughed out4 ,impossible1 ,bateman1 he said2 you don't mean you wear your tailed ,french coat over your long straight cassock reaching to your ankles8 ,certainly1 said ,bateman gravely2 ,i thus consult for warmth and appearance too2 and all my parishioners are sure to know me4 ,i think this a great point1 ,miss ,reding3 ,i hear the little boys as ,i pass say1 ',that's the parson4' ,i'll be bound they do1 said ,charles4 ,well1 said ,mrs4 ,reding1 surprised out of her propriety1 did one ever hear the like6 ,bateman looked round at her1 startled and frightened4 ,you were going to speak of your improvements in your church1 said ,mary1 wishing to divert his attention from her mother4 ,ah1 true1 ,miss ,reding1 true1 said ,bateman1 thank you for reminding me2 ,i have digressed to improvements in my own dress4 ,i should have liked to have pulled down the galleries and lowered the high pews2 that1 however1 ,i could not do4 ,so ,i have lowered the pulpit some six feet4 ,now by doing so1 first ,i give a pattern in my own person of the kind of condescension or lowliness to which ,i would persuade my people4 ,but this is not all2 for the consequence of lowering the pulpit is1 that no one in the galleries can see or hear me preach2 and this is a bonus on those who are below4 ,it's a broad hint1 certainly1 said ,charles4 ,but it's a hint for those below also1 continued ,bateman2 for no one can see or hear me in the pews either1 till the sides are lowered4 ,one thing only is wanting besides1 said ,charles1 smiling and looking amiable1 lest he should be saying too much2 since you are full tall1 you must kneel when you preach1 ,bateman1 else you will undo your own alterations4 ,bateman looked pleased4 ,i have anticipated you1 he said2 ,i preach sitting4 ,it is more comformable to antiquity and to reason to sit than to stand4 ,with these precautions1 said ,charles1 ,i really think you might have ventured on your surplice in the pulpit every ,sunday4 ,are your parishioners contented8 ,oh1 not at all1 far from it1 cried ,bateman2 but they can do nothing4 ,the alteration is so simple4 ,nothing besides8 asked ,charles4 ,nothing in the architectural way1 answered he2 but one thing more in the way of observances4 ,i have fortunately picked up a very fair copy of ,jewell1 black-letter2 and ,i have placed it in church1 securing it with a chain to the wall1 for any poor person who wishes to read it4 ,our church is emphatically the 'poor man's church1' ,mrs4 ,reding4 ,well1 said ,charles to himself1 ,i'll back the old parsons against the young ones any day1 if this is to be their cut4 ,then aloud3 ,come1 you must see our garden2 take up your hat1 and let's have a turn in it4 ,there's a very nice terrace-walk at the upper end4 ,bateman accordingly1 having been thus trotted out for the amusement of the ladies1 was now led off again1 and was soon in the aforesaid terrace-walk1 pacing up and down in earnest conversation with ,charles4 ,reding1 my good fellow1 said he1 what is the meaning of this report concerning you1 which is everywhere about8 ,i have not heard it1 said ,charles abruptly4 ,why1 it is this1 said ,bateman2 ,i wish to approach the subject with as great delicacy as possible3 don't tell me if you don't like it1 or tell me just as much as you like2 yet you will excuse an old friend4 ,they say you are going to leave the ,church of your baptism for the ,church of ,rome4 ,is it widely spread8 asked ,charles coolly4 ,oh1 yes2 ,i heard it in ,london2 have had a letter mentioning it from ,oxford2 and a friend of mine heard it given out as positive at a visitation dinner in ,wales4 ,so1 thought ,charles1 you are bringing your witness against me as well as the rest4 ,well but1 my good ,reding1 said ,bateman1 why are you silent8 is it true--is it true8 ,what true8 that ,i am a ,roman ,catholic8 ,oh1 certainly2 don't you understand1 that's why ,i am reading so hard for the schools8 said ,charles4 ,come1 be serious for a moment1 ,reding1 said ,bateman1 do be serious4 ,will you empower me to contradict the report1 or to negative it to a certain point1 or in any respect8 ,oh1 to be sure1 said ,charles1 contradict it1 by all means1 contradict it entirely4 ,may ,i give it a plain1 unqualified1 unconditional1 categorical1 flat denial8 asked ,bateman4 ,of course1 of course4 ,bateman could not make him out1 and had not a dream how he was teasing him4 ,i don't know where to find you1 he said4 ,they paced down the walk in silence4 ,bateman began again4 ,you see1 he said1 it would be such a wonderful blindness1 it would be so utterly inexcusable in a person like yourself1 who had known what the ,church of ,england was2 not a ,dissenter1 not an unlettered layman2 but one who had been at ,oxford1 who had come across so many excellent men1 who had seen what the ,church of ,england could be1 her grave beauty1 her orderly and decent activity2 who had seen churches decorated as they should be1 with candlesticks1 ciboriums1 faldstools1 lecterns1 antependiums1 piscinas1 rood-lofts1 and sedilia2 who1 in fact1 had seen the ,church ,service carried out1 and could desiderate nothing2--tell me1 my dear good ,reding1 taking hold of his button-hole1 what is it you want--what is it8 name it4 ,that you would take yourself off1 ,charles would have said1 had he spoken his mind2 he merely said1 however1 that really he desiderated nothing but to be believed when he said that he had no intention of leaving his own ,church4 ,bateman was incredulous1 and thought him close4 ,perhaps you are not aware1 he said1 how much is known of the circumstances of your being sent down4 ,the old ,principal was full of the subject4 ,what6 ,i suppose he told people right and left1 said ,reding4 ,oh1 yes1 answered ,bateman2 a friend of mine knows him1 and happening to call on him soon after you went down1 had the whole story from him4 ,he spoke most kindly of you1 and in the highest terms2 said that it was deplorable how much your mind was warped by the prevalent opinions1 and that he should not be surprised if it turned out you were a ,romanist even while you were at ,st4 ,saviour's2 anyhow1 that you would be one day a ,romanist for certain1 for that you held that the saints reigning with ,christ interceded for us in heaven4 ,but what was stronger1 when the report got about1 ,sheffield said that he was not surprised at it1 that he always prophesied it4 ,i am much obliged to him1 said ,charles4 ,however1 you warrant me1 said ,bateman1 to contradict it--so ,i understand you--to contradict it peremptorily2 that's enough for me4 ,it's a great relief2 it's very satisfactory4 ,well1 ,i must be going4 ,i don't like to seem to drive you away1 said ,charles1 but really you must be going if you want to get home before nightfall4 ,i hope you don't feel lonely or overworked where you are4 ,if you are so at any time1 don't scruple to drop in to dinner here2 nay1 we can take you in for a night1 if you wish it4 ,bateman thanked him1 and they proceeded to the hall-door together2 when they were nearly parting1 ,bateman stopped and said1 ,do you know1 ,i should like to lend you some books to read4 ,let me send up to you ,bramhall's ,works1 ,thorndike1 ,barrow on the ,unity of the ,church1 and ,leslie's ,dialogues on ,romanism4 ,i could name others1 but content myself with these at present4 ,they perfectly settle the matter2 you can't help being convinced4 ,i'll not say a word more2 good-bye to you1 good-bye4 ,,chapter ,,xv4 ,much as ,charles loved and prized the company of his mother and sisters he was not sorry to have gentlemen's society1 so he accepted with pleasure an invitation which ,bateman sent him to dine with him at ,melford4 ,also he wished to show ,bateman1 what no protestation could effect1 how absurdly exaggerated were the reports which were circulated about him4 ,and as the said ,bateman1 with all his want of common sense1 was really a well-informed man1 and well read in ,english divines1 he thought he might incidentally hear something from him which he could turn to account4 ,when he got to ,melford he found a ,mr4 ,campbell had been asked to meet him2 a young ,cambridge rector of a neighbouring parish1 of the same religious sentiments on the whole as ,bateman1 and1 though a little positive1 a man of clear head and vigorous mind4 ,they had been going over the church2 and the conversation at dinner turned on the revival of ,gothic architecture--an event which gave unmixed satisfaction to all parties4 ,the subject would have died out1 almost as soon as it was started1 for want of a difference upon it1 had not ,bateman happily gone on boldly to declare that1 if he had his will1 there should be no architecture in the ,english churches but ,gothic1 and no music but ,gregorian4 ,this was a good thesis1 distinctly put1 and gave scope for a very pretty quarrel4 ,reding said that all these adjuncts of worship1 whether music or architecture1 were national2 they were the mode in which religious feeling showed itself in particular times and places4 ,he did not mean to say that the outward expression of religion in a country might not be guided1 but it could not be forced2 that it was as preposterous to make people worship in one's own way1 as be merry in one's own way4 ,the ,greeks1 he said1 cut the hair in grief1 the ,romans let it grow2 the ,orientals veiled their heads in worship1 the ,greeks uncovered them2 ,christians take off their hats in a church1 ,mahometans their shoes2 a long veil is a sign of modesty in ,europe1 of immodesty in ,asia4 ,you may as well try to change the size of people1 as their forms of worship4 ,bateman1 we must cut you down a foot1 and then you shall begin your ecclesiastical reforms4 ,but surely1 my worthy friend1 answered ,bateman1 you don't mean to say that there is no natural connexion between internal feeling and outward expression1 so that one form is no better than another8 ,far from it1 answered ,charles2 but let those who confine their music to ,gregorians put up crucifixes in the highways4 ,each is the representative of a particular place or time4 ,that's what ,i say of our good friend's short coat and long cassock1 said ,campbell2 it is a confusion of different times1 ancient and modern4 ,or of different ideas1 said ,charles1 the cassock ,catholic1 the coat ,protestant4 ,the reverse1 said ,bateman2 the cassock is old ,hooker's ,anglican habit3 the coat comes from ,catholic ,france4 ,anyhow1 it is what ,mr4 ,reding calls a mixture of ideas1 said ,campbell2 and that's the difficulty ,i find in uniting ,gothic and ,gregorians4 ,oh1 pardon me1 said ,bateman1 they are one idea2 they are both eminently ,catholic4 ,you can't be more ,catholic than ,rome1 ,i suppose1 said ,campbell2 yet there's no ,gothic there4 ,rome is a peculiar place1 said ,bateman2 besides1 my dear friend1 if we do but consider that ,rome has corrupted the pure apostolic doctrine1 can we wonder that it should have a corrupt architecture8 ,why1 then1 go to ,rome for ,gregorians8 said ,campbell2 ,i suspect they are called after ,gregory ,i4 ,bishop of ,rome1 whom ,protestants consider the first specimen of ,antichrist4 ,it's nothing to us what ,protestants think1 answered ,bateman4 ,don't let us quarrel about terms1 said ,campbell2 both you and ,i think that ,rome has corrupted the faith1 whether she is ,antichrist or not4 ,you said so yourself just now4 ,it is true1 ,i did1 said ,bateman2 but ,i make a little distinction4 ,the ,church of ,rome has not corrupted the faith1 but has admitted corruptions among her people4 ,it won't do1 answered ,campbell2 depend on it1 we can't stand our ground in controversy unless we in our hearts think very severely of the ,church of ,rome4 ,why1 what's ,rome to us8 asked ,bateman2 we come from the old ,british ,church2 we don't meddle with ,rome1 and we wish ,rome not to meddle with us1 but she will4 ,well1 said ,campbell1 you but read a bit of the history of the ,reformation1 and you will find that the doctrine that the ,pope is ,antichrist was the life of the movement4 ,with ,ultra-,protestants1 not with us1 answered ,bateman4 ,such ,ultra-,protestants as the writers of the ,homilies1 said ,campbell2 but1 ,i say again1 ,i am not contending for names2 ,i only mean1 that as that doctrine was the life of the ,reformation1 so a belief1 which ,i have and you too1 that there is something bad1 corrupt1 perilous in the ,church of ,rome--that there is a spirit of ,antichrist living in her1 energizing in her1 and ruling her--is necessary to a man's being a good ,anglican4 ,you must believe this1 or you ought to go to ,rome4 ,impossible6 my dear friend1 said ,bateman2 all our doctrine has been that ,rome and we are sister ,churches4 ,i say1 said ,campbell1 that without this strong repulsion you will not withstand the great claims1 the overcoming attractions1 of the ,church of ,rome4 ,she is our mother--oh1 that word 'mother6'--a mighty mother6 ,she opens her arms--oh1 the fragrance of that bosom6 ,she is full of gifts--,i feel it1 ,i have long felt it4 ,why don't ,i rush into her arms8 ,because ,i feel that she is ruled by a spirit which is not she4 ,but did that distrust of her go from me1 was that certainty which ,i have of her corruption disproved1 ,i should join her communion to-morrow4 ,this is not very edifying doctrine for ,reding1 thought ,bateman4 ,oh1 my good ,campbell1 he said1 you are paradoxical to-day4 ,not a bit of it1 answered ,campbell2 our ,reformers felt that the only way in which they could break the tie of allegiance which bound us to ,rome was the doctrine of her serious corruption4 ,and so it is with our divines4 ,if there is one doctrine in which they agree1 it is that ,rome is ,antichrist1 or an ,antichrist4 ,depend upon it1 that doctrine is necessary for our position4 ,i don't quite understand that language1 said ,reding2 ,i see it is used in various publications4 ,it implies that controversy is a game1 and that disputants are not looking out for truth1 but for arguments4 ,you must not mistake me1 ,mr4 ,reding1 answered ,campbell2 all ,i mean is1 that you have no leave to trifle with your conviction that ,rome is antichristian1 if you think so4 ,for if it is so1 it is necessary to say so4 ,a poet says1 ',speak gently of our sister's fall3' no1 if it is a fall1 we must not speak gently of it4 ,at first one says1 ',so great a ,church6 who am ,i1 to speak against her8' ,yes1 you must1 if your view of her is true3 ',tell truth and shame the ,devil4' ,recollect you don't use your own words2 you are sanctioned1 protected by all our divines4 ,you must1 else you can give no sufficient reason for not joining the ,church of ,rome4 ,you must speak out1 not what you don't think1 but what you do think1 if you do think it4 ,here's a doctrine6 thought ,charles2 why it's putting the controversy into a nutshell4 ,bateman interposed4 ,my dear ,campbell1 he said1 you are behind the day4 ,we have given up all that abuse against ,rome4 ,then the party is not so clever as ,i give them credit for being1 answered ,campbell2 be sure of this1--those who have given up their protests against ,rome1 either are looking towards her1 or have no eyes to see4 ,all we say1 answered ,bateman1 is1 as ,i said before1 that we don't wish to interfere with ,rome2 we don't anathematize ,rome--,rome anathematizes us4 ,it won't do1 said ,campbell2 those who resolve to remain in our ,church1 and are using sweet words of ,romanism1 will be forced back upon their proper ground in spite of themselves1 and will get no thanks for their pains4 ,no man can serve two masters2 either go to ,rome1 or condemn ,rome4 ,for me1 the ,romish ,church has a great deal in it which ,i can't get over2 and thinking so1 much as ,i admire it in parts1 ,i can't help speaking1 ,i can't help it4 ,it would not be honest1 and it would not be consistent4 ,well1 he has ended better than he began1 thought ,bateman2 and he chimed in1 ,oh yes1 true1 too true2 it's painful to see it1 but there's a great deal in the ,church of ,rome which no man of plain sense1 no reader of the ,fathers1 no ,scripture student1 no true member of the ,anglo-,catholic ,church can possibly stomach4 ,this put a corona on the discussion2 and the rest of the dinner passed off pleasantly indeed1 but not very intellectually4 ,,chapter ,,xvi4 ,after dinner it occurred to them that the subject of ,gregorians and ,gothic had been left in the lurch4 ,how in the world did we get off it8 asked ,charles4 ,well1 at least1 we have found it1 said ,bateman2 and ,i really should like to hear what you have to say upon it1 ,campbell4 ,oh1 really1 ,bateman1 answered he1 ,i am quite sick of the subject2 every one seems to me to be going into extremes3 what's the good of arguing about it8 you won't agree with me4 ,i don't see that at all1 answered ,bateman2 people often think they differ1 merely because they have not courage to talk to each other4 ,a good remark1 thought ,charles2 what a pity that ,bateman1 with so much sense1 should have so little common sense6 ,well1 then1 said ,campbell1 my quarrel with ,gothic and ,gregorians1 when coupled together1 is1 that they are two ideas1 not one4 ,have figured music in ,gothic churches1 keep your ,gregorian for basilicas4 ,my good ,campbell1 said ,bateman1 you seem oblivious that ,gregorian chants and hymns have always accompanied ,gothic aisles1 ,gothic copes1 ,gothic mitres1 and ,gothic chalices4 ,our ancestors did what they could1 answered ,campbell2 they were great in architecture1 small in music4 ,they could not use what was not yet invented4 ,they sang ,gregorians because they had not ,palestrina4 ,a paradox1 a paradox6 cried ,bateman4 ,surely there is a close connexion1 answered ,campbell1 between the rise and nature of the basilica and of ,gregorian unison4 ,both existed before ,christianity2 both are of ,pagan origin2 both were afterwards consecrated to the service of the ,church4 ,pardon me1 interrupted ,bateman1 ,gregorians were ,jewish1 not ,pagan4 ,be it so1 for argument sake1 said ,campbell2 still1 at least1 they were not of ,christian origin4 ,next1 both the old music and the old architecture were inartificial and limited1 as methods of exhibiting their respective arts4 ,you can't have a large ,grecian temple1 you can't have a long ,gregorian ,gloria4 ,not a long one6 said ,bateman2 why there's poor ,willis used to complain how tedious the old ,gregorian compositions were abroad4 ,i don't explain myself1 answered ,campbell2 of course you may produce them to any length1 but merely by addition1 not by carrying on the melody4 ,you can put two together1 and then have one twice as long as either4 ,but ,i speak of a musical piece1 which must of course be the natural development of certain ideas1 with one part depending on another4 ,in like manner1 you might make an ,ionic temple twice as long or twice as wide as the ,parthenon2 but you would lose the beauty of proportion by doing so4 ,this1 then1 is what ,i meant to say of the primitive architecture and the primitive music1 that they soon come to their limit2 they soon are exhausted1 and can do nothing more4 ,if you attempt more1 it's like taxing a musical instrument beyond its powers4 ,you but try1 ,bateman1 said ,reding1 to make a bass play quadrilles1 and you will see what is meant by taxing an instrument4 ,well1 ,i have heard ,lindley play all sorts of quick tunes on his bass1 said ,bateman1 and most wonderful it is4 ,wonderful is the right word1 answered ,reding2 it is very wonderful4 ,you say1 ',how can he manage it8' and ',it's very wonderful for a bass2' but it is not pleasant in itself4 ,in like manner1 ,i have always felt a disgust when ,mr4 ,so-and-so comes forward to make his sweet flute bleat and bray like a hautbois2 it's forcing the poor thing to do what it was never made for4 ,this is literally true as regards ,gregorian music1 said ,campbell2 instruments did not exist in primitive times which could execute any other4 ,but ,i am speaking under correction2 ,mr4 ,reding seems to know more about the subject than ,i do4 ,i have always understood1 as you say1 answered ,charles1 modern music did not come into existence till after the powers of the violin became known4 ,corelli himself1 who wrote not two hundred years ago1 hardly ventures on the shift4 ,the piano1 again1 ,i have heard1 has almost given birth to ,beethoven4 ,modern music1 then1 could not be in ancient times1 for want of modern instruments1 said ,campbell2 and1 in like manner1 ,gothic architecture could not exist until vaulting was brought to perfection4 ,great mechanical inventions have taken place1 both in architecture and in music1 since the age of basilicas and ,gregorians2 and each science has gained by it4 ,it is curious enough1 said ,reding1 one thing ,i have been accustomed to say1 quite falls in with this view of yours4 ,when people who are not musicians have accused ,handel and ,beethoven of not being simple1 ,i have always said1 ',is ,gothic architecture simple8' ,a cathedral expresses one idea1 but it is indefinitely varied and elaborated in its parts2 so is a symphony or quartett of ,beethoven4 ,certainly1 ,bateman1 you must tolerate ,pagan architecture1 or you must in consistency exclude ,pagan or ,jewish ,gregorians1 said ,campbell2 you must tolerate figured music1 or reprobate tracery windows4 ,and which are you for1 asked ,bateman1 ,gothic with ,handel1 or ,roman with ,gregorians8 ,for both in their place1 answered ,campbell4 ,i exceedingly prefer ,gothic architecture to classical4 ,i think it the one true child and development of ,christianity2 but ,i won't1 for that reason1 discard the ,pagan style which has been sanctified by eighteen centuries1 by the exclusive love of many ,christian countries1 and by the sanction of a host of saints4 ,i am for toleration4 ,give ,gothic an ascendancy2 be respectful towards classical4 ,the conversation slackened4 ,much as ,i like modern music1 said ,charles1 ,i can't quite go the length to which your doctrine would lead me4 ,i cannot1 indeed1 help liking ,mozart2 but surely his music is not religious4 ,i have not been speaking in defence of particular composers1 said ,campbell2 figured music may be right1 yet ,mozart or ,beethoven inadmissible4 ,in like manner1 you don't suppose1 because ,i tolerate ,roman architecture1 that therefore ,i like naked cupids to stand for cherubs1 and sprawling women for the cardinal virtues4 ,he paused4 ,besides1 he added1 as you were saying yourself just now1 we must consult the genius of our country and the religious associations of our people4 ,well1 said ,bateman1 ,i think the perfection of sacred music is ,gregorian set to harmonies2 there you have the glorious old chants1 and just a little modern richness4 ,and ,i think it just the worst of all1 answered ,campbell2 it is a mixture of two things1 each good in itself1 and incongruous together4 ,it's a mixture of the first and second courses at table4 ,it's like the architecture of the faade at ,milan1 half ,gothic1 half ,grecian4 ,it's what is always used1 ,i believe1 said ,charles4 ,oh yes1 we must not go against the age1 said ,campbell2 it would be absurd to do so4 ,i only spoke of what was right and wrong on abstract principles2 and1 to tell the truth1 ,i can't help liking the mixture myself1 though ,i can't defend it4 ,bateman rang for tea2 his friends wished to return home soon2 it was the month of ,january1 and no season for after-dinner strolls4 ,well1 he said1 ,campbell1 you are more lenient to the age than to me2 you yield to the age when it sets a figured bass to a ,gregorian tone2 but you laugh at me for setting a coat upon a cassock4 ,it's no honour to be the author of a mongrel type1 said ,campbell4 ,a mongrel type8 said ,bateman2 rather it is a transition state4 ,what are you passing to8 asked ,charles4 ,talking of transitions1 said ,campbell abruptly1 do you know that your man ,willis--,i don't know his college1 he turned ,romanist--is living in my parish1 and ,i have hopes he is making a transition back again4 ,have you seen him8 said ,charles4 ,no2 ,i have called1 but was unfortunate2 he was out4 ,he still goes to mass1 ,i find4 ,why1 where does he find a chapel8 asked ,bateman4 ,at ,seaton4 ,a good seven miles from you1 said ,charles4 ,yes1 answered ,campbell2 and he walks to and fro every ,sunday4 ,that is not like a transition1 except a physical one1 observed ,reding4 ,a person must go somewhere1 answered ,campbell2 ,i suppose he went to church up to the week he joined the ,romanists4 ,very awful1 these defections1 said ,bateman2 but very satisfactory1 a melancholy satisfaction1 with a look at ,charles1 that the victims of delusions should be at length recovered4 ,yes1 said ,campbell2 very sad indeed4 ,i am afraid we must expect a number more4 ,well1 ,i don't know how to think it1 said ,charles2 the hold our ,church has on the mind is so powerful2 it is such a wrench to leave it1 ,i cannot fancy any party-tie standing against it4 ,humanly speaking1 there is far1 far more to keep them fast than to carry them away4 ,yes1 if they moved as a party1 said ,campbell2 but that is not the case4 ,they don't move simply because others move1 but1 poor fellows1 because they can't help it4--,bateman1 will you let my chaise be brought round8--,how can they help it8 continued he1 standing up over the fire2 their ,catholic principles lead them on1 and there's nothing to drive them back4 ,why should not their love for their own ,church8 asked ,bateman2 it is deplorable1 unpardonable4 ,they will keep going one after another1 as they ripen1 said ,campbell4 ,did you hear the report--,i did not think much of it myself1 said ,reding1--that ,smith was moving8 ,not impossible1 answered ,campbell thoughtfully4 ,impossible1 quite impossible1 cried ,bateman2 such a triumph to the enemy2 ,i'll not believe it till ,i see it4 ,not impossible1 repeated ,campbell1 as he buttoned and fitted his great-coat about him2 he has shifted his ground4 ,his carriage was announced4 ,mr4 ,reding1 ,i believe ,i can take you part of your way1 if you will accept of a seat in my pony-chaise4 ,charles accepted the offer2 and ,bateman was soon deserted by his two guests4 ,,chapter ,,xvii4 ,campbell put ,charles down about half-way between ,melford and his home4 ,it was bright moonlight2 and1 after thanking his new friend for the lift1 he bounded over the stile at the side of the road1 and was at once buried in the shade of the copse along which his path lay4 ,soon he came in sight of a tall wooden ,cross1 which1 in better days1 had been a religious emblem1 but had served in latter times to mark the boundary between two contiguous parishes4 ,the moon was behind him1 and the sacred symbol rose awfully in the pale sky1 overhanging a pool1 which was still venerated in the neighbourhood for its reported miraculous virtue4 ,charles1 to his surprise1 saw distinctly a man kneeling on the little mound out of which the ,cross grew2 nay1 heard him1 for his shoulders were bare1 and he was using the discipline upon them1 while he repeated what appeared to be some form of devotion4 ,charles stopped1 unwilling to interrupt1 yet not knowing how to pass2 but the stranger had caught the sound of feet1 and in a few seconds vanished from his view4 ,he was overcome with a sudden emotion1 which he could not control4 ,o happy times1 he cried1 when faith was one6 ,o blessed penitent1 whoever you are1 who know what to believe1 and how to gain pardon1 and can begin where others end6 ,here am ,i1 in my twenty-third year1 uncertain about everything1 because ,i have nothing to trust4 ,he drew near to the ,cross1 took off his hat1 knelt down and kissed the wood1 and prayed awhile that whatever might be the consequences1 whatever the trial1 whatever the loss1 he might have grace to follow whithersoever ,god should call him4 ,he then rose and turned to the cold well2 he took some water in his palm and drank it4 ,he felt as if he could have prayed to the ,saint who owned that pool--,st4 ,thomas the ,martyr1 he believed--to plead for him1 and to aid him in his search after the true faith2 but something whispered1 ,it is wrong2 and he checked the wish4 ,so1 regaining his hat1 he passed away1 and pursued his homeward path at a brisk pace4 ,the family had retired for the night1 and he went up without delay to his bedroom4 ,passing through his study1 he found a letter lying on his table1 without post-mark1 which had come for him in his absence4 ,he broke the seal2 it was an anonymous paper1 and began as follows3-- ,questions for one whom it concerns4 #a4 ,what is meant by the ,one ,church of which the ,creed speaks8 ,this is too much for to-night1 thought ,charles1 it is late already2 and he folded it up again and threw it on his dressing-table4 ,some well-meaning person1 ,i dare say1 who thinks he knows me4 ,he wound up his watch1 gave a yawn1 and put on his slippers4 ,who can there be in this neighbourhood to write it8 ,he opened it again4 ,it's certainly a ,catholic's writing1 he said4 ,his mind glanced to the person whom he had seen under the ,cross2 perhaps it glanced further4 ,he sat down and began reading in extenso3-- ,questions for one whom it concerns4 #a4 ,what is meant by the ,one ,church of which the ,creed speaks8 #b4 ,is it a generalization or a thing8 #c4 ,does it belong to past history or to the present time8 #d4 ,does not ,scripture speak of it as a kingdom8 #e4 ,and a kingdom which was to last to the end8 #f4 ,what is a kingdom8 and what is meant when ,scripture calls the ,church a kingdom8 #g4 ,is it a visible kingdom1 or an invisible8 #h4 ,can a kingdom have two governments1 and these acting in contrary directions8 #i4 ,is identity of institutions1 opinions1 or race1 sufficient to make two nations one kingdom8 #aj4 ,is the ,episcopal form1 the hierarchy1 or the ,apostles' ,creed1 sufficient to make the ,churches of ,rome and of ,england one8 #aa4 ,where there are parts1 does not unity require union1 and a visible unity require a visible union8 #ab4 ,how can two religions be the same which have utterly distinct worships and ideas of worship8 #ac4 ,can two religions be one1 if the most sacred and peculiar act of worship in the one is called 'a blasphemous fable and dangerous deceit' in the other8 #ad4 ,has not the ,one ,church of ,christ one faith8 #ae4 ,can a ,church be ,christ's which has not one faith8 #af4 ,which is contradictory to itself in its documents8 #ag4 ,and in different centuries8 #ah4 ,and in its documents contrasted with its divines8 #ai4 ,and in its divines and members one with another8 #bj4 ,what is the faith of the ,english ,church8 #ba4 ,how many ,councils does the ,english ,church admit8 #bb4 ,does the ,english ,church consider the present ,nestorian and ,jacobite ,churches under an anathema1 or part of the visible ,church8 #bc4 ,is it necessary1 or possible1 to believe any one but a professed messenger from ,god8 #bd4 ,is the ,english ,church1 does she claim to be1 a messenger from ,god8 #be4 ,does she impart the truth1 or bid us seek it8 #bf4 ,if she leaves us to seek it1 do members of the ,english ,church seek it with that earnestness which ,scripture enjoins8 #bg4 ,is a person safe who lives without faith1 even though he seems to have hope and charity8 ,charles got very sleepy before he reached the twenty-seventhly4 ,it won't do1 he said2 ,i am only losing my time4 ,they seem well put2 but they must stand over4 ,he put the paper from him1 said his prayers1 and was soon fast asleep4 ,next morning1 on waking1 the subject of the letter came into his mind1 and he lay for some time thinking over it4 ,certainly1 he said1 ,i do wish very much to be settled either in the ,english ,church or somewhere else4 ,i wish ,i knew what ,christianity was2 ,i am ready to be at pains to seek it1 and would accept it eagerly and thankfully1 if found4 ,but it's a work of time2 all the paper-arguments in the world are unequal to giving one a view in a moment4 ,there must be a process2 they may shorten it1 as medicine shortens physical processes1 but they can't supersede its necessity4 ,i recollect how all my religious doubts and theories went to flight on my dear father's death4 ,they weren't part of me1 and could not sustain rough weather4 ,conviction is the eyesight of the mind1 not a conclusion from premises2 ,god works it1 and ,his works are slow4 ,at least so it is with me4 ,i can't believe on a sudden2 if ,i attempt it1 ,i shall be using words for things1 and be sure to repent it4 ,or if not1 ,i shall go right merely by hazard4 ,i must move in what seems ,god's way2 ,i can but put myself on the road2 a higher power must overtake me1 and carry me forward4 ,at present ,i have a direct duty upon me1 which my dear father left me1 to take a good class4 ,this is the path of duty4 ,i won't put off the inquiry1 but ,i'll let it proceed in that path4 ,god can bless my reading to my spiritual illumination1 as well as anything else4 ,saul sought his father's asses1 and found a kingdom4 ,all in good time4 ,when ,i have taken my degree the subject will properly come on me4 ,he sighed4 ,my degree6 those odious ,articles6 rather1 when ,i have passed my examination4 ,well1 it's no good lying here2 and he jumped up1 and signed himself with the ,cross4 ,his eye caught the letter4 ,it's well written--better than ,willis could write2 it's not ,willis's4 ,there's something about that ,willis ,i don't understand4 ,i wonder how he and his mother get on together4 ,i don't think he has any sisters4 ,,chapter ,,xviii4 ,campbell had been much pleased with ,reding1 and his interest in him was not lessened by a hint from ,bateman that his allegiance to the ,english ,church was in danger4 ,he called on him in no long time1 asked him to dinner1 and1 when ,charles had returned his invitation1 and ,campbell had accepted it1 the beginning of an acquaintance was formed between the rectory at ,sutton and the family at ,boughton which grew into an intimacy as time went on4 ,campbell was a gentleman1 a travelled man1 of clear head and ardent mind1 candid1 well-read in ,english divinity1 a devoted ,anglican1 and the incumbent of a living so well endowed as almost to be a dignity4 ,mary was pleased at the introduction1 as bringing her brother under the influence of an intellect which he could not make light of2 and1 as ,campbell had a carriage1 it was natural that he should wish to save ,charles the loss of a day's reading and the trouble of a muddy walk to the rectory and back by coming over himself to ,boughton4 ,accordingly it so happened that he saw ,charles twice at his mother's for once that he saw him at ,sutton4 ,but whatever came of these visits1 nothing occurred which particularly bears upon the line of our narrative2 so let them pass4 ,one day ,charles called upon ,bateman1 and1 on entering the room1 was surprised to see him and ,campbell at luncheon1 and in conversation with a third person4 ,there was a moment's surprise and hesitation on seeing him before they rose and welcomed him as usual4 ,when he looked at the stranger he felt a slight awkwardness himself1 which he could not control4 ,it was ,willis2 and apparently submitted to the process of reconversion4 ,charles was evidently de trop1 but there was no help for it2 so he shook hands with ,willis1 and accepted the pressing call of ,bateman to seat himself at table1 and to share their bread and cheese4 ,charles sat down opposite ,willis1 and for a while could not keep his eyes from him4 ,at first he had some difficulty in believing he had before him the impetuous youth he had known two years and a half before4 ,he had always been silent in general company2 but in that he was changed1 as in everything else4 ,not that he talked more than was natural1 but he talked freely and easily4 ,the great change1 however1 was in his appearance and manner4 ,he had lost his bloom and youthfulness2 his expression was sweeter indeed than before1 and very placid1 but there was a thin line down his face on each side of his mouth2 his cheeks were wanting in fulness1 and he had the air of a man of thirty4 ,when he entered into conversation1 and became animated1 his former self returned4 ,i suppose we may all admire this cream at this season1 said ,charles1 as he helped himself1 for we are none of us ,devonshire men4 ,it's not peculiar to ,devonshire1 answered ,campbell2 that is1 they have it abroad4 ,at ,rome there is a sort of cream or cheese very like it1 and very common4 ,will butter and cream keep in so warm a climate8 asked ,charles2 ,i fancied oil was the substitute4 ,rome is not so warm as you fancy1 said ,willis1 except during the summer4 ,oil8 so it is1 said ,campbell2 thus we read in ,scripture of the multiplication of the oil and meal1 which seems to answer to bread and butter4 ,the oil in ,rome is excellent1 so clear and pale2 you can eat it as milk4 ,the taste1 ,i suppose1 is peculiar1 observed ,charles4 ,just at first1 answered ,campbell2 but one soon gets used to it4 ,all such substances1 milk1 butter1 cheese1 oil1 have a particular taste at first1 which use alone gets over4 ,the rich ,guernsey butter is too much for strangers1 while ,russians relish whale-oil4 ,most of our tastes are in a measure artificial4 ,it is certainly so with vegetables1 said ,willis2 when ,i was a boy ,i could not eat beans1 spinach1 asparagus1 parsnips1 and ,i think some others4 ,therefore your hermit's fare is not only the most natural1 but the only naturally palatable1 ,i suppose1--a crust of bread and a draught from the stream1 replied ,campbell4 ,or the ,clerk of ,copmanhurst's dry peas1 said ,charles4 ,the macaroni and grapes of the ,neapolitans are as natural and more palatable1 said ,willis4 ,rather they are a luxury1 said ,bateman4 ,no1 answered ,campbell1 not a luxury2 a luxury is in its very idea a something recherch4 ,thus ,horace speaks of the 'peregrina lagois4' ,what nature yields sponte su around you1 however delicious1 is no luxury4 ,wild ducks are no luxury in your old neighbourhood1 amid your ,oxford fens1 ,bateman2 nor grapes at ,naples4 ,then the old women here are luxurious over their sixpenn'rth of tea1 said ,bateman2 for it comes from ,china4 ,campbell was posed for an instant4 ,somehow neither he nor ,bateman were quite at their ease1 whether with themselves or with each other2 it might be ,charles's sudden intrusion1 or something which had happened before it4 ,campbell answered at length that steamers and railroads were making strange changes2 that time and place were vanishing1 and price would soon be the only measure of luxury4 ,this seems the measure also of grasso and magro food in ,italy1 said ,willis2 for ,i think there are dispensations for butcher's meat in ,lent1 in consequence of the dearness of bread and oil4 ,this seems to show that the age for abstinences and fastings is past1 observed ,campbell2 for it's absurd to keep ,lent on beef and mutton4 ,oh1 ,campbell1 what are you saying8 cried ,bateman2 past6 are we bound by their lax ways in ,italy8 ,i do certainly think1 answered ,campbell1 that fasting is unsuitable to this age1 in ,england as well as in ,rome4 ,take care1 my fine fellows1 thought ,charles2 keep your ranks1 or you won't secure your prisoner4 ,what1 not fast on ,friday6 cried ,bateman2 we always did so most rigidly at ,oxford4 ,it does you credit1 answered ,campbell2 but ,i am of ,cambridge4 ,but what do you say to ,rubrics and the ,calendar8 insisted ,bateman4 ,they are not binding1 answered ,campbell4 ,they are1 binding1 said ,bateman4 ,a pause1 as between the rounds of a boxing-match4 ,reding interposed3 ,bateman1 cut me1 please1 a bit of your capital bread--home-made1 ,i suppose8 ,a thousand pardons6 said ,bateman3--not binding8--,pass it to him1 ,willis1 if you please4 ,yes1 it comes from a farmer1 next door4 ,i'm glad you like it4--,i repeat1 they are binding1 ,campbell4 ,an odd sort of binding1 when they have never bound1 answered ,campbell2 they have existed two or three hundred years2 when were they ever put in force8 ,but there they are1 said ,bateman1 in the ,prayer ,book4 ,yes1 and there let them lie and never get out of it1 retorted ,campbell2 there they will stay till the end of the story4 ,oh1 for shame6 cried ,bateman2 you should aid your mother in a difficulty1 and not be like the priest and the ,levite4 ,my mother does not wish to be aided1 continued ,campbell4 ,oh1 how you talk6 ,what shall ,i do8 ,what can be done8 cried poor ,bateman4 ,done6 nothing1 said ,campbell2 is there no such thing as the desuetude of a law8 ,does not a law cease to be binding when it is not enforced8 ,i appeal to ,mr4 ,willis4 ,willis1 thus addressed1 answered that he was no moral theologian1 but he had attended some schools1 and he believed it was the ,catholic rule that when a law had been promulgated1 and was not observed by the majority1 if the legislator knew the state of the case1 and yet kept silence1 he was considered ipso facto to revoke it4 ,what6 said ,bateman to ,campbell1 do you appeal to the ,romish ,church8 ,no1 answered ,campbell2 ,i appeal to the whole ,catholic ,church1 of which the ,church of ,rome happens in this particular case to be the exponent4 ,it is plain common sense1 that1 if a law is not enforced1 at length it ceases to be binding4 ,else it would be quite a tyranny2 we should not know where we were4 ,the ,church of ,rome does but give expression to this common-sense view4 ,well1 then1 said ,bateman1 ,i will appeal to the ,church of ,rome too4 ,rome is part of the ,catholic ,church as well as we3 since1 then1 the ,romish ,church has ever kept up fastings the ordinance is not abolished2 the 'greater part' of the ,catholic ,church has always observed it4 ,but it has not1 said ,campbell2 it now dispenses with fasts1 as you have heard4 ,willis interposed to ask a question4 ,do you mean then1 he said to ,bateman1 that the ,church of ,england and the ,church of ,rome make one ,church8 ,most certainly1 answered ,bateman4 ,is it possible8 said ,willis2 in what sense of the word one8 ,in every sense1 answered ,bateman1 but that of intercommunion4 ,that is1 ,i suppose1 said ,willis1 they are one1 except that they have no intercourse with each other4 ,bateman assented4 ,willis continued3 ,no intercourse2 that is1 no social dealings1 no consulting or arranging1 no ordering and obeying1 no mutual support2 in short1 no visible union4 ,bateman still assented4 ,well1 that is my difficulty1 said ,willis2 ,i can't understand how two parts can make up one visible body if they are not visibly united2 unity implies union4 ,i don't see that at all1 said ,bateman2 ,i don't see that at all4 ,no1 ,willis1 you must not expect ,i shall give that up to you2 it is one of our points4 ,there is only one visible ,church1 and therefore the ,english and ,romish ,churches are both parts of it4 ,campbell saw clearly that ,bateman had got into a difficulty1 and he came to the rescue in his own way4 ,we must distinguish1 he said1 the state of the case more exactly4 ,a kingdom may be divided1 it may be distracted by parties1 by dissensions1 yet be still a kingdom4 ,that1 ,i conceive1 is the real condition of the ,church2 in this way the ,churches of ,england1 ,rome1 and ,greece are one4 ,i suppose you will grant1 said ,willis1 that in proportion as a rebellion is strong1 so is the unity of the kingdom threatened2 and if a rebellion is successful1 or if the parties in a civil war manage to divide the power and territory between them1 then forthwith1 instead of one kingdom1 we have two4 ,ten or fifteen years since1 ,belgium was part of the kingdom of the ,netherlands3 ,i suppose you would not call it part of that kingdom now8 ,this seems the case of the ,churches of ,rome and ,england4 ,still1 a kingdom may be in a state of decay1 replied ,campbell2 consider the case of the ,turkish ,empire at this moment4 ,the ,union between its separate portions is so languid1 that each separate ,pasha may almost be termed a separate sovereign2 still it is one kingdom4 ,the ,church1 then1 at present1 said ,willis1 is a kingdom tending to dissolution8 ,certainly it is1 answered ,campbell4 ,and will ultimately fail8 asked ,willis4 ,certainly1 said ,campbell2 when the end comes1 according to our ,lord's saying1 ',when the ,son of man cometh1 shall ,he find faith on the earth8' just as in the case of the chosen people1 the sceptre failed from ,judah when the ,shiloh came4 ,surely the ,church has failed already before the end1 said ,willis1 according to the view you take of failing4 ,how can any separation be more complete than exists at present between ,rome1 ,greece1 and ,england8 ,they might excommunicate each other1 said ,campbell4 ,then you are willing1 said ,willis1 to assign beforehand something definite1 the occurrence of which will constitute a real separation4 ,don't do so1 said ,reding to ,campbell2 it is dangerous2 don't commit yourself in a moral question2 for then1 if the thing specified did occur1 it would be difficult to see our way4 ,no1 said ,willis2 you certainly would be in a difficulty2 but you would find your way out1 ,i know4 ,in that case you would choose some other ultimatum as your test of schism4 ,there would be1 he added1 speaking with some emotion1 'in the lowest depth a lower still4' ,the concluding words were out of keeping with the tone of the conversation hitherto1 and fairly excited ,bateman1 who1 for some time1 had been an impatient listener4 ,that's a dangerous line1 ,campbell1 he said1 it is indeed2 ,i can't go along with you4 ,it will never do to say that the ,church is failing2 no1 it never fails4 ,it is always strong1 and pure1 and perfect1 as the ,prophets describe it4 ,look at its cathedrals1 abbey-churches1 and other sanctuaries1 these fitly typify it4 ,my dear ,bateman1 answered ,campbell1 ,i am as willing as you to maintain the fulfilment of the prophecies made to the ,church1 but we must allow the fact that the branches of the ,church are divided1 while we maintain the doctrine1 that the ,church should be one4 ,i don't see that at all1 answered ,bateman2 no1 we need not allow it4 ,there's no such thing as ,churches1 there's but one ,church everywhere1 and it is not divided4 ,it is merely the outward forms1 appearances1 manifestations of the ,church that are divided4 ,the ,church is one as much as ever it was4 ,that will never do1 said ,campbell2 and he stood up before the fire in a state of discomfort4 ,nature never intended you for a controversialist1 my good ,bateman1 he added to himself4 ,it is as ,i thought1 said ,willis2 ,bateman1 you are describing an invisible ,church4 ,you hold the indefectibility of the invisible ,church1 not of the visible4 ,they are in a fix1 thought ,charles1 but ,i will do my best to tow old ,bateman out2 so he began3 ,no1 he said1 ,bateman only means that one ,church presents1 in some particular point1 a different appearance from another2 but it does not follow that1 in fact1 they have not a visible agreement too4 ,all difference implies agreement2 the ,english and ,roman ,churches agree visibly and differ visibly4 ,think of the different styles of architecture1 and you will see1 ,willis1 what he means4 ,a church is a church all the world over1 it is visibly one and the same1 and yet how different is church from church6 ,our churches are ,gothic1 the southern churches are ,palladian4 ,how different is a basilica from ,york ,cathedral6 yet they visibly agree together4 ,no one would mistake either for a mosque or a ,jewish temple4 ,we may quarrel which is the better style2 one likes the basilica1 another calls it pagan4 ,that ,i do1 said ,bateman4 ,a little extreme1 said ,campbell1 a little extreme1 as usual4 ,the basilica is beautiful in its place4 ,there are two things which ,gothic cannot show--the line or forest of round polished columns1 and the graceful dome1 circling above one's head like the blue heaven itself4 ,all parties were glad of this diversion from the religious dispute2 so they continued the lighter conversation which had succeeded it with considerable earnestness4 ,i fear ,i must confess1 said ,willis1 that the churches at ,rome do not affect me like the ,gothic2 ,i reverence them1 ,i feel awe in them1 but ,i love1 ,i feel a sensible pleasure at the sight of the ,gothic arch4 ,there are other reasons for that in ,rome1 said ,campbell2 the churches are so unfinished1 so untidy4 ,rome is a city of ruins6 the ,christian temples are built on ruins1 and they themselves are generally dilapidated or decayed2 thus they are ruins of ruins4 ,campbell was on an easier subject than that of ,anglo-,catholicism1 and1 no one interrupting him1 he proceeded flowingly3 ,in ,rome you have huge high buttresses in the place of columns1 and these not cased with marble1 but of cold white plaster or paint4 ,they impart an indescribable forlorn look to the churches4 ,willis said he often wondered what took so many foreigners1 that is1 ,protestants1 to ,rome2 it was so dreary1 so melancholy a place2 a number of old1 crumbling1 shapeless brick masses1 the ground unlevelled1 the straight causeways fenced by high monotonous walls1 the points of attraction straggling over broad solitudes1 faded palaces1 trees universally pollarded1 streets ankle deep in filth or eyes-and-mouth deep in a cloud of whirling dust and straws1 the climate most capricious1 the evening air most perilous4 ,naples was an earthly paradise2 but ,rome was a city of faith4 ,to seek the shrines that it contained was a veritable penance1 as was fitting4 ,he understood ,catholics going there2 he was perplexed at ,protestants4 ,there is a spell about the limina ,apostolorum1 said ,charles2 ,st4 ,peter and ,st4 ,paul are not there for nothing4 ,there is a more tangible reason1 said ,campbell2 it is a place where persons of all nations are to be found2 no society is so varied as the ,roman4 ,you go to a ballroom2 your host1 whom you bow to in the first apartment1 is a ,frenchman2 as you advance your eye catches ,massena's granddaughter in conversation with ,mustapha ,pasha2 you soon find yourself seated between a ,yankee charg d'affaires and a ,russian colonel2 and an ,englishman is playing the fool in front of you4 ,here ,campbell looked at his watch1 and then at ,willis1 whom he had driven over to ,melford to return ,bateman's call4 ,it was time for them to be going1 or they would be overtaken by the evening4 ,bateman1 who had remained in a state of great dissatisfaction since he last spoke1 which had not been for a quarter of an hour past1 did not find himself in spirits to try much to detain either them or ,reding2 so he was speedily left to himself4 ,he drew his chair to the fire1 and for a while felt nothing more than a heavy load of disgust4 ,after a time1 however1 his thoughts began to draw themselves out into series1 and took the following form3 ,it's too bad1 too bad1 he said2 ,campbell is a very clever man--far cleverer than ,i am2 a well-read man1 too2 but he has no tact1 no tact4 ,it is deplorable2 ,reding's coming was one misfortune2 however1 we might have got over that1 we might have even turned it to an advantage2 but to use such arguments as he did6 how could he hope to convince him8 he made us both a mere laughing-stock4444 ,how did he throw off8 ,oh1 he said that the ,rubrics were not binding4 ,who ever heard such a thing--at least from an ,anglo-,catholic8 ,why pretend to be a good ,catholic with such views8 better call himself a ,protestant or ,erastian at once1 and one would know where to find him4 ,such a bad impression it must make on ,willis2 ,i saw it did2 he could hardly keep from smiling3 but ,campbell has no tact at all4 ,he goes on1 on1 his own way1 bringing out his own thoughts1 which are very clever1 original certainly1 but never considering his company4 ,and he's so positive1 so knock-me-down2 it is quite unpleasant1 ,i don't know how to sit it sometimes4 ,oh1 it is a cruel thing this--the effect must be wretched4 ,poor ,willis6 ,i declare ,i don't think we have moved him one inch1 ,i really don't4 ,i fancied at one time he was even laughing at me4444 ,what was it he said afterwards8 there was something else1 ,i know4 ,i recollect2 that the ,catholic ,church was in ruins1 had broken to pieces4 ,what a paradox6 who'll believe that but he8 ,i declare ,i am so vexed ,i don't know what to be at4 ,he jumped up and began walking to and fro4 ,but all this is because the ,bishops won't interfere2 one can't say it1 that's the worst1 but they are at the bottom of the evil4 ,they have but to put out their little finger and enforce the ,rubrics1 and then the whole controversy would be at an end4444 ,i knew there was something else1 yes6 ,he said we need not fast6 ,but ,cambridge men are always peculiar1 they always have some whim or other2 he ought to have been at ,oxford1 and we should have made a man of him4 ,he has many good points1 but he runs theories1 and rides hobbies1 and drives consequences1 to death4 ,here he was interrupted by his clerk1 who told him that ,john ,tims had taken his oath that his wife should not be churched before the congregation1 and was half-minded to take his infant to the ,methodists for baptism2 and his thoughts took a different direction4 ,,chapter ,,xix4 ,the winter had been on the whole dry and pleasant1 but in ,february and ,march the rains were so profuse1 and the winds so high1 that ,bateman saw very little of either ,charles or ,willis4 ,he did not abandon his designs on the latter1 but it was an anxious question how best to conduct them4 ,as to ,campbell1 he was resolved to exclude him from any participation in them2 but he hesitated about ,reding4 ,he had found him far less definitely ,roman than he expected1 and he conjectured that1 by making him his confidant and employing him against ,willis1 he really might succeed in giving him an ,anglican direction4 ,accordingly1 he told him of his anxiety to restore ,willis to the ,church of his baptism2 and not discouraged by ,charles's advice to let well alone1 for he might succeed in drawing him from ,rome without reclaiming him to ,anglicanism1 the weather having improved1 he asked the two to dinner on one of the later ,sundays in ,lent4 ,he determined to make a field-day of it2 and1 with that view1 he carefully got up some of the most popular works against the ,church of ,rome4 ,after much thought he determined to direct his attack on some of the practical evils1 as he considered them1 of ,romanism2 as being more easy of proof than points of doctrine and history1 in which1 too1 for what he knew1 ,willis might by this time be better read than himself4 ,he considered1 too1 that1 if ,willis had been at all shaken in his new faith when he was abroad1 it was by the practical exemplification which he had before his eyes of the issue of its peculiar doctrines when freely carried out4 ,moreover1 to tell the truth1 our good friend had not a very clear apprehension how much doctrine he held in common with the ,church of ,rome1 or where he was to stop in the several details of ,pope ,pius's ,creed2 in consequence1 it was evidently safer to confine his attack to matters of practice4 ,you see1 ,willis1 he said1 as they sat down to table1 ,i have given you abstinence food1 not knowing whether you avail yourself of the dispensation4 ,we shall eat meat ourselves2 but don't think we don't fast at proper times2 ,i don't agree with ,campbell at all2 we don't fast1 however1 on ,sunday4 ,that is our rule1 and1 ,i take it1 a primitive one4 ,willis answered that he did not know how the primitive usage lay1 but he supposed that both of them allowed that matters of discipline might be altered by the proper authority4 ,certainly1 answered ,bateman1 so that everything is done consistently with the inspired text of ,scripture2--he stopped1 itching1 if he could1 to bring in some great subject1 but not seeing how4 ,he saw he must rush in medias res2 so he added1--with which inspired text1 ,i presume1 what one sees in foreign churches is not very consistent4 ,what8 ,i suppose you mean antependia1 rere-dosses1 stone altars1 copes1 and mitres1 said ,willis innocently2 which certainly are not in ,scripture4 ,true1 said ,bateman2 but these1 though not in ,scripture1 are not inconsistent with ,scripture4 ,they are all very right2 but the worship of ,saints1 especially the ,blessed ,virgin1 and of relics1 the gabbling over prayers in an unknown tongue1 ,indulgences1 and infrequent communions1 ,i suspect are directly unscriptural4 ,my dear ,bateman1 said ,willis1 you seem to live in an atmosphere of controversy2 so it was at ,oxford2 there was always argument going on in your rooms4 ,religion is a thing to enjoy1 not to quarrel about2 give me a slice more of that leg of mutton4 ,yes1 ,bateman1 said ,reding1 you must let us enjoy our meat4 ,willis deserves it1 for ,i believe he has had a fair walk to-day4 ,have you not walked a good part of the way to ,seaton and back8 a matter of fourteen miles1 and hilly ground2 it can't be dry1 too1 in parts yet4 ,true1 said ,bateman2 take a glass of wine1 ,willis2 it's good ,madeira2 an aunt of mine sent it me4 ,he puts us to shame1 said ,charles1 who have stepped into church from our bedroom2 he has trudged a pilgrimage to his4 ,i'm not saying a word against our dear friend ,willis1 said ,bateman2 it was merely a point on which ,i thought he would agree with me1 that there were many corruptions of worship in foreign churches4 ,at last1 when his silence was observable1 ,willis said that he supposed that persons who were not ,catholics could not tell what were corruptions and what not4 ,here the subject dropped again2 for ,willis did not seem in humour--perhaps he was too tired--to continue it4 ,so they ate and drank1 with nothing but very commonplace remarks to season their meal withal1 till the cloth was removed4 ,the table was then shoved back a bit1 and the three young men got over the fire1 which ,bateman made burn brightly4 ,two of them at least had deserved some relaxation1 and they were the two who were to be opponent and respondent in the approaching argument--one had had a long walk1 the other had had two full services1 a baptism1 and a funeral4 ,the armistice continued a good quarter of an hour1 which ,charles and ,willis spent in easy conversation2 till ,bateman1 who had been priming himself the while with his controversial points1 found himself ready for the assault1 and opened it in form4 ,come1 my dear ,willis1 he said1 ,i can't let you off so2 ,i am sure what you saw abroad scandalized you4 ,this was almost rudely put4 ,willis said that1 had he been a ,protestant1 he might have been easily shocked2 but he had been a ,catholic2 and he drew an almost imperceptible sigh4 ,besides1 had he had a temptation to be shocked1 he should have recollected that he was in a ,church which in all greater matters could not err4 ,he had not come to the ,church to criticize1 he said1 but to learn4 ,i don't know1 he said1 what is meant by saying that we ought to have faith1 that faith is a grace1 that faith is the means of our salvation1 if there is nothing to exercise it4 ,faith goes against sight2 well1 then1 unless there are sights which offend you1 there is nothing for it to go against4 ,bateman called this a paradox2 ,if so1 he said1 why don't we become ,mahometans8 we should have enough to believe then4 ,why1 just consider1 said ,willis2 supposing your friend1 an honourable man1 is accused of theft1 and appearances are against him1 would you at once admit the charge8 ,it would be a fair trial of your faith in him2 and if he were able in the event satisfactorily to rebut it1 ,i don't think he would thank you1 should you have waited for his explanation before you took his part1 instead of knowing him too well to suspect it4 ,if1 then1 ,i come to the ,church with faith in her1 whatever ,i see there1 even if it surprises me1 is but a trial of my faith4 ,that is true1 said ,charles2 but there must be some ground for faith2 we do not believe without reason2 and the question is1 whether what the ,church does1 as in worship1 is not a fair matter to form a judgment upon1 for or against4 ,a ,catholic1 said ,willis1 as ,i was when ,i was abroad1 has already found his grounds1 for he believes2 but for one who has not--,i mean a ,protestant--,i certainly consider it is very uncertain whether he will take the view of ,catholic worship which he ought to take4 ,it may easily happen that he will not understand it4 ,yet persons have before now been converted by the sight of ,catholic worship1 said ,reding4 ,certainly1 answered ,willis3 ,god works in a thousand ways2 there is much in ,catholic worship to strike a ,protestant1 but there is much which will perplex him2 for instance1 what ,bateman has alluded to1 our devotion to the ,blessed ,virgin4 ,surely1 said ,bateman1 this is a plain matter2 it is quite impossible that the worship paid by ,roman ,catholics to the ,blessed ,mary should not interfere with the supreme adoration due to the ,creator alone4 ,this is just an instance in point1 said ,willis2 you see you are judging priori2 you know nothing of the state of the case from experience1 but you say1 ',it must be2 it can't be otherwise4' ,this is the way a ,protestant judges1 and comes to one conclusion2 a ,catholic1 who acts1 and does not speculate1 feels the truth of the contrary4 ,some things1 said ,bateman1 are so like axioms1 as to supersede trial4 ,on the other hand1 familiarity is very likely to hide from people the real evil of certain practices4 ,how strange it is1 answered ,willis1 that you don't perceive that this is the very argument which various sects urge against you ,anglicans6 ,for instance1 the ,unitarian says that the doctrine of the ,atonement must lead to our looking at the ,father1 not as a ,god of love1 but of vengeance only2 and he calls the doctrine of eternal punishment immoral4 ,and so1 the ,wesleyan or ,baptist declares that it is an absurdity to suppose any one can hold the doctrine of baptismal regeneration1 and really be spiritual2 that the doctrine must have a numbing effect on the mind1 and destroy its simple reliance on the atonement of ,christ4 ,i will take another instance3 many a good ,catholic1 who never came across ,anglicans1 is as utterly unable to realize your position as you are to realize his4 ,he cannot make out how you can be so illogical as not to go forward or backward2 nay1 he pronounces your professed state of mind impossible2 he does not believe in its existence4 ,i may deplore your state2 ,i may think you illogical and worse2 but ,i know it is a state which does exist4 ,as1 then1 ,i admit that a person can hold one ,catholic ,church1 yet without believing that the ,roman ,communion is it1 so ,i put it to you1 even as an argumentum ad hominem1 whether you ought not to believe that we can honour our ,blessed ,lady as the first of creatures1 without interfering with the honour due to ,god8 ,at most1 you ought to call us only illogical1 you ought not to deny that we do what we say we do4 ,i make a distinction1 said ,bateman2 it is quite possible1 ,i fully grant1 for an educated ,romanist to distinguish between the devotion paid by him to the ,blessed ,virgin1 and the worship of ,god2 ,i only say that the multitude will not distinguish4 ,i know you say so1 answered ,willis2 and still1 ,i repeat1 not from experience1 but on an priori ground4 ,you say1 not 'it is so1' but 'it must be so4' ,there was a pause in the conversation1 and then ,bateman recommenced it4 ,you may give us some trouble1 said he1 laughing1 but we are resolved to have you back1 my good ,willis4 ,now consider1 you are a lover of truth3 is that ,church from heaven which tells untruths8 ,willis laughed too2 ,we must define the words truth and untruth1 he said2 but1 subject to that definition1 ,i have no hesitation in enunciating the truism1 that a ,church is not from heaven which tells untruths4 ,of course1 you can't deny the proposition1 said ,bateman2 well1 then1 is it not quite certain that in ,rome itself there are relics which all learned men now give up1 and which yet are venerated as relics8 ,for instance1 ,campbell tells me that the reputed heads of ,st4 ,peter and ,st4 ,paul1 in some great ,roman basilica1 are certainly not the heads of the ,apostles1 because the head of ,st4 ,paul was found with his body1 after the fire at his church some years since4 ,i don't know about the particular instance1 answered ,willis2 but you are opening a large question which cannot be settled in a few words4 ,if ,i must speak1 ,i should say this3 ,i should begin with the assumption that the existence of relics is not improbable2 do you grant that8 ,i grant nothing1 said ,bateman2 but go on4 ,why you have plenty of heathen relics1 which you admit4 ,what is ,pompeii1 and all that is found there1 but one vast heathen relic8 why should there not be ,christian relics in ,rome and elsewhere as well as pagan8 ,of course1 of course1 said ,bateman4 ,well1 and relics may be identified4 ,you have the tomb of the ,scipios1 with their names on them4 ,did you find ashes in one of them1 ,i suppose you would be pretty certain that they were the ashes of a ,scipio4 ,to the point1 cried ,bateman1 quicker4 ,st4 ,peter1 continued ,willis1 speaks of ,david1 'whose sepulchre is with you unto this day4' ,therefore it's nothing wonderful that a religious relic should be preserved eleven hundred years1 and identified to be such1 when a nation makes a point of preserving it4 ,this is beating about the bush1 cried ,bateman impatiently2 get on quicker4 ,let me go on my own way1 said ,willis--then there is nothing improbable1 considering ,christians have always been very careful about the memorials of sacred things-- ,you've not proved that1 said ,bateman1 fearing that some manoeuvre1 he could not tell what1 was in progress4 ,well1 said ,willis1 you don't doubt it1 ,i suppose1 at least from the fourth century1 when ,st4 ,helena brought from the ,holy ,land the memorials of our ,lord's passion1 and lodged them at ,rome in the ,basilica1 which was thereupon called ,santa ,croce4 ,as to the previous times of persecution1 ,christians1 of course1 had fewer opportunities of showing a similar devotion1 and historical records are less copious2 yet1 in spite of this1 its existence is as certain as any fact of history4 ,they collected the bones of ,st4 ,polycarp1 the immediate disciple of ,st4 ,john1 after he was burnt2 as of ,st4 ,ignatius before him1 after his exposure to the beasts2 and so in like manner the bones or blood of all the martyrs4 ,no one doubts it2 ,i never heard of any one who did4 ,so the disciples took up the ,baptist's body--it would have been strange if they had not--and buried it 'in the sepulchre1' as the ,evangelist says1 speaking of it as known4 ,now1 why should they not in like manner1 and even with greater reason1 have rescued the bodies of ,st4 ,peter and ,st4 ,paul1 if it were only for decent burial8 ,is it then wonderful1 if the bodies were rescued1 that they should be afterwards preserved8 ,but they can't be in two places at once1 said ,bateman4 ,but hear me1 answered ,willis2 ,i say then if there is a tradition that in a certain place there is a relic of an apostle1 there is at first sight a probability that it is there2 the presumption is in its favour4 ,can you deny it8 ,well1 if the same relic is reported to be in two places1 then one or the other tradition is erroneous1 and the prim facie force of both traditions is weakened2 but ,i should not actually discard either at once2 each has its force still1 though neither so great a force4 ,now1 suppose there are circumstances which confirm the one1 the other is weakened still further1 and at length the probability of its truth may become evanescent2 and when a fair interval has passed1 and there is no change of evidence in its favour1 then it is at length given up4 ,but all this is a work of time2 meanwhile1 it is not a bit more of an objection to the doctrine and practice of relic-veneration that a body is said to lie in two places1 than to profane history that ,charles ,i4 was reported by some authorities to be buried at ,windsor1 by others at ,westminster2 which question was decided just before our times4 ,it is a question of evidence1 and must be treated as such4 ,but if ,st4 ,paul's head was found under his own church1 said ,bateman1 it's pretty clear it is not preserved at the other basilica4 ,true1 answered ,willis2 but grave questions of this kind cannot be decided in a moment4 ,i don't know myself the circumstances of the case1 and do but take your account of it4 ,it has to be proved1 then1 ,i suppose1 that it was ,st4 ,paul's head which was found with his body2 for1 since he was beheaded1 it would not be attached to it4 ,this is one question1 and others would arise4 ,it is not easy to settle a question of history4 ,questions which seem settled revive4 ,it is very well for secular historians to give up a tradition or testimony at once1 and for a generation to oh-oh it2 but the ,church cannot do so2 she has a religious responsibility1 and must move slowly4 ,take the chance of its turning out that the heads at ,st4 ,john ,lateran were1 after all1 those of the two ,apostles1 and that she had cast them aside4 ,questions1 ,i say1 revive4 ,did not ,walpole make it highly probable that the two little princes had a place in the procession at ,king ,richard's coronation1 though a century before him two skeletons of boys were found in the ,tower at the very place where the children of ,edward were said to have been murdered and buried by the ,duke of ,gloucester8 ,i speak from memory1 but the general fact which ,i am illustrating is undeniable4 ,ussher1 ,pearson1 and ,voss proved that ,st4 ,ignatius's shorter ,epistles were genuine2 and now1 after the lapse of two centuries1 the question is at least plausibly mooted again4 ,there was another pause1 while ,bateman thought over his facts and arguments1 but nothing was forthcoming at the moment4 ,willis continued3 ,you must consider also that reputed relics1 such as you have mentioned1 are generally in the custody of religious bodies1 who are naturally very jealous of attempts to prove them spurious1 and1 with a pardonable esprit de corps1 defend them with all their might1 and oppose obstacles in the way of an adverse decision2 just as your own society defends1 most worthily1 the fair fame of your foundress1 ,queen ,boadicea4 ,were the case given against her by every tribunal in the land1 your valiant and loyal ,head would not abandon her2 it would break his magnanimous heart2 he would die in her service as a good knight4 ,both from religious duty1 then1 and from human feeling1 it is a very arduous thing to get a received relic disowned4 ,well1 said ,bateman1 to my poor judgment it does seem a dishonesty to keep up inscriptions1 for instance1 which every one knows not to be true4 ,my dear ,bateman1 that is begging the question1 said ,willis2 every body does not know it2 it is a point in course of settlement1 but not settled2 you may say that individuals have settled it1 or it may be settled1 but it is not settled yet4 ,parallel cases happen frequently in civil matters1 and no one speaks harshly of existing individuals or bodies in consequence4 ,till lately the ,monument in ,london bore an inscription to the effect that ,london had been burned by us poor ,papists4 ,a hundred years ago1 ,pope1 the poet1 had called the 'column' 'a tall bully' which 'lifts its head and lies1' ,yet the inscription was not removed till a few years since--,i believe when the ,monument was repaired4 ,that was an opportunity for erasing a calumny which1 till then1 had not been definitely pronounced to be such1 and not pronounced in deference to the prim facie authority of a statement contemporaneous with the calamity which it recorded4 ,there is never a point of time at which you can say1 ',the tradition is now disproved4' ,when a received belief has been apparently exposed1 the question lies dormant for the opportunity of fresh arguments2 when none appear1 then at length an accident1 such as the repair of a building1 despatches it4 ,we have somehow got off the subject1 thought ,bateman2 and he sat fidgeting about to find the thread of his argument4 ,reding put in an objection2 he said that no one knew or cared about the inscription on the ,monument1 but religious veneration was paid to the two heads at ,st4 ,john ,lateran4 ,right1 said ,bateman1 that's just what ,i meant to say4 ,well1 answered ,willis1 as to the particular case--mind1 ,i am taking your account of it1 for ,i don't profess to know how the matter lies4 ,but let us consider the extent of the mistake4 ,there is no doubt in the world that at least they are the heads of martyrs2 the only question is this1 and no more1 whether they are the very heads of the two ,apostles4 ,from time immemorial they have been preserved upon or under the altar as the heads of saints or martyrs2 and it requires to know very little of ,christian antiquities to be perfectly certain that they really are saintly relics1 even though unknown4 ,hence the sole mistake is1 that ,catholics have venerated1 what ought to be venerated anyhow1 under a wrong name2 perhaps have expected miracles 7which they had a right to expect71 and have experienced them 7as they might well experience them71 because they were the relics of saints1 though they were in error as to what saints4 ,this surely is no great matter4 ,you have made three assumptions1 said ,bateman2 first1 that none but the relics of saints have been placed under altars2 secondly1 that these relics were always there2 thirdly--thirdly--,i know there was a third--let me see-- ,most true1 said ,willis1 interrupting him1 and ,i will help you to some others4 ,i have assumed that there are ,christians in the world called ,catholics2 again1 that they think it right to venerate relics2 but1 my dear ,bateman1 these were the grounds1 and not the point of our argument2 and if they are to be questioned1 it must be in a distinct dispute3 but ,i really think we have had enough of disputation4 ,yes1 ,bateman1 said ,charles2 it is getting late4 ,i must think of returning4 ,give us some tea1 and let us begone4 ,go home8 cried ,bateman2 why1 we have just done dinner1 and done nothing else as yet2 ,i had a great deal to say4 ,however1 he rang the bell for tea1 and had the table cleared4 ,,chapter ,,xx4 ,the conversation flagged2 ,bateman was again busy with his memory2 and he was getting impatient too2 time was slipping away1 and no blow struck2 moreover1 ,willis was beginning to gape1 and ,charles seemed impatient to be released4 ,these ,romanists put things so plausibly1 he said to himself1 but very unfairly1 most unfairly2 one ought to be up to their dodges4 ,i dare say1 if the truth were known1 ,willis has had lessons2 he looks so demure2 ,i dare say he is keeping back a great deal1 and playing upon my ignorance4 ,who knows8 perhaps he's a concealed ,jesuit4 ,it was an awful thought1 and suspended the course of his reflections some seconds4 ,i wonder what he does really think2 it's so difficult to get at the bottom of them2 they won't tell tales1 and they are under obedience2 one never knows when to believe them4 ,i suspect he has been wofully disappointed with ,romanism2 he looks so thin2 but of course he won't say so2 it hurts a man's pride1 and he likes to be consistent2 he doesn't like to be laughed at1 and so he makes the best of things4 ,i wish ,i knew how to treat him2 ,i was wrong in having ,reding here2 of course ,willis would not be confidential before a third person4 ,he's like the fox that lost his tail4 ,it was bad tact in me2 ,i see it now2 what a thing it is to have tact6 it requires very delicate tact4 ,there are so many things ,i wished to say1 about ,indulgences1 about their so seldom communicating2 ,i think ,i must ask him about the ,mass4 ,so1 after fidgeting a good deal within1 while he was ostensibly employed in making tea1 he commenced his last assault4 ,well1 we shall have you back again among us by next ,christmas1 ,willis1 he said2 ,i can't give you greater law2 ,i am certain of it2 it takes time1 but slow and sure4 ,what a joyful time it will be6 ,i can't tell what keeps you2 you are doing nothing2 you are flung into a corner2 you are wasting life4 ,what keeps you8 ,willis looked odd2 then he simply answered1 ,grace4 ,bateman was startled1 but recovered himself2 ,heaven forbid1 he said1 that ,i should treat these things lightly1 or interfere with you unduly4 ,i know1 my dear friend1 what a serious fellow you are2 but do tell me1 just tell me1 how can you justify the ,mass1 as it is performed abroad2 how can it be called a 'reasonable service1' when all parties conspire to gabble it over as if it mattered not a jot who attended to it1 or even understood it8 ,speak1 man1 speak1 he added1 gently shaking him by the shoulder4 ,these are such difficult questions1 answered ,willis2 must ,i speak8 ,such difficult questions1 he continued1 rising into a more animated manner1 and kindling as he went on2 ,i mean1 people view them so differently3 it is so difficult to convey to one person the idea of another4 ,the idea of worship is different in the ,catholic ,church from the idea of it in your ,church2 for1 in truth1 the religions are different4 ,don't deceive yourself1 my dear ,bateman1 he said tenderly1 it is not that ours is your religion carried a little farther1--a little too far1 as you would say4 ,no1 they differ in kind1 not in degree2 ours is one religion1 yours another4 ,and when the time comes1 and come it will1 for you1 alien as you are now1 to submit yourself to the gracious yoke of ,christ1 then1 my dearest ,bateman1 it will be faith which will enable you to bear the ways and usages of ,catholics1 which else might perhaps startle you4 ,else1 the habits of years1 the associations in your mind of a certain outward behaviour with real inward acts of devotion1 might embarrass you1 when you had to conform yourself to other habits1 and to create for yourself other associations4 ,but this faith1 of which ,i speak1 the great gift of ,god1 will enable you in that day to overcome yourself1 and to submit1 as your judgment1 your will1 your reason1 your affections1 so your tastes and likings1 to the rule and usage of the ,church4 ,ah1 that faith should be necessary in such a matter1 and that what is so natural and becoming under the circumstances1 should have need of an explanation6 ,i declare1 to me1 he said1 and he clasped his hands on his knees1 and looked forward as if soliloquizing1 to me nothing is so consoling1 so piercing1 so thrilling1 so overcoming1 as the ,mass1 said as it is among us4 ,i could attend ,masses for ever1 and not be tired4 ,it is not a mere form of words1--it is a great action1 the greatest action that can be on earth4 ,it is1 not the invocation merely1 but1 if ,i dare use the word1 the evocation of the ,eternal4 ,he becomes present on the altar in flesh and blood1 before whom angels bow and devils tremble4 ,this is that awful event which is the scope1 and is the interpretation1 of every part of the solemnity4 ,words are necessary1 but as means1 not as ends2 they are not mere addresses to the throne of grace1 they are instruments of what is far higher1 of consecration1 of sacrifice4 ,they hurry on as if impatient to fulfil their mission4 ,quickly they go1 the whole is quick2 for they are all parts of one integral action4 ,quickly they go2 for they are awful words of sacrifice1 they are a work too great to delay upon2 as when it was said in the beginning1 ',what thou doest1 do quickly4' ,quickly they pass2 for the ,lord ,jesus goes with them1 as ,he passed along the lake in the days of ,his flesh1 quickly calling first one and then another4 ,quickly they pass2 because as the lightning which shineth from one part of the heaven unto the other1 so is the coming of the ,son of ,man4 ,quickly they pass2 for they are as the words of ,moses1 when the ,lord came down in the cloud1 calling on the ,name of the ,lord as ,he passed by1 ',the ,lord1 the ,lord ,god1 merciful and gracious1 long-suffering1 and abundant in goodness and truth4' ,and as ,moses on the mountain1 so we too 'make haste and bow our heads to the earth1 and adore4' ,so we1 all around1 each in his place1 look out for the great ,advent1 'waiting for the moving of the water4' ,each in his place1 with his own heart1 with his own wants1 with his own thoughts1 with his own intention1 with his own prayers1 separate but concordant1 watching what is going on1 watching its progress1 uniting in its consummation2--not painfully and hopelessly following a hard form of prayer from beginning to end1 but1 like a concert of musical instruments1 each different1 but concurring in a sweet harmony1 we take our part with ,god's priest1 supporting him1 yet guided by him4 ,there are little children there1 and old men1 and simple labourers1 and students in seminaries1 priests preparing for ,mass1 priests making their thanksgiving2 there are innocent maidens1 and there are penitent sinners2 but out of these many minds rises one eucharistic hymn1 and the great ,action is the measure and the scope of it4 ,and oh1 my dear ,bateman1 he added1 turning to him1 you ask me whether this is not a formal1 unreasonable service--it is wonderful6 he cried1 rising up1 quite wonderful4 ,when will these dear1 good people be enlightened8 ,o ,sapientia1 fortiter suaviterque disponens omnia1 ,o ,adonai1 ,o ,clavis ,david et ,exspectatio gentium1 veni ad salvandum nos1 ,domine ,deus noster4 ,now1 at least1 there was no mistaking ,willis4 ,bateman stared1 and was almost frightened at a burst of enthusiasm which he had been far from expecting4 ,why1 ,willis1 he said1 it is not true1 then1 after all1 what we heard1 that you were somewhat dubious1 shaky1 in your adherence to ,romanism8 ,i'm sure ,i beg your pardon2 ,i would not for the world have annoyed you1 had ,i known the truth4 ,willis's face still glowed1 and he looked as youthful and radiant as he had been two years before4 ,there was nothing ungentle in his impetuosity2 a smile1 almost a laugh1 was on his face1 as if he was half ashamed of his own warmth2 but this took nothing from its evident sincerity4 ,he seized ,bateman's two hands1 before the latter knew where he was1 lifted him up out of his seat1 and1 raising his own mouth close to his ear1 said1 in a low voice1 ,i would to ,god1 that not only thou1 but also all who hear me this day1 were both in little and in much such as ,i am1 except these chains4 ,then1 reminding him it had grown late1 and bidding him good-night1 he left the room with ,charles4 ,bateman remained a while with his back to the fire after the door had closed2 presently he began to give expression to his thoughts4 ,well1 he said1 he's a brick1 a regular brick2 he has almost affected me myself4 ,what a way those fellows have with them6 ,i declare his touch has made my heart beat2 how catching enthusiasm is6 ,any one but ,i might really have been unsettled4 ,he is a real good fellow2 what a pity we have not got him6 he's just the sort of man we want4 ,he'd make a splendid ,anglican2 he'd convert half the ,dissenters in the country4 ,well1 we shall have them in time2 we must not be impatient4 ,but the idea of his talking of converting me6 'in little and in much1' as he worded it6 ,by-the-bye1 what did he mean by 'except these chains'8 ,he sat ruminating on the difficulty2 at first he was inclined to think that1 after all1 he might have some misgiving about his position2 then he thought that perhaps he had a hair-shirt or a catenella on him2 and lastly1 he came to the conclusion that he had just meant nothing at all1 and did but finish the quotation he had begun4 ,after passing some little time in this state1 he looked towards the tea-tray2 poured himself out another cup of tea2 ate a bit of toast2 took the coals off the fire2 blew out one of the candles1 and1 taking up the other1 left the parlour and wound like an omnibus up the steep twisting staircase to his bedroom4 ,meanwhile ,willis and ,charles were proceeding to their respective homes4 ,for a while they had to pursue the same path1 which they did in silence4 ,charles had been moved far more than ,bateman1 or rather touched1 by the enthusiasm of his ,catholic friend1 though1 from a difficulty in finding language to express himself1 and a fear of being carried off his legs1 he had kept his feelings to himself4 ,when they were about to part1 ,willis said to him1 in a subdued tone1 ,you are soon going to ,oxford1 dearest ,reding2 oh1 that you were one with us6 ,you have it in you4 ,i have thought of you at ,mass many times4 ,our priest has said ,mass for you4 ,oh1 my dear friend1 quench not ,god's grace2 listen to ,his call2 you have had what others have not4 ,what you want is faith4 ,i suspect you have quite proof enough2 enough to be converted on4 ,but faith is a gift2 pray for that great gift1 without which you cannot come to the ,church2 without which1 and he paused1 you cannot walk aright when you are in the ,church4 ,and now farewell6 alas1 our path divides2 all is easy to him that believeth4 ,may ,god give you that gift of faith1 as ,he has given me6 ,farewell again2 who knows when ,i may see you next1 and where8 may it be in the courts of the true ,jerusalem1 the ,queen of ,saints1 the ,holy ,roman ,church1 the ,mother of us all6 ,he drew ,charles to him and kissed his cheek1 and was gone before ,charles had time to say a word4 ,yet ,charles could not have spoken had he had ever so much opportunity4 ,he set off at a brisk pace1 cutting down with his stick the twigs and brambles which the pale twilight discovered in his path4 ,it seemed as if the kiss of his friend had conveyed into his own soul the enthusiasm which his words had betokened4 ,he felt himself possessed1 he knew not how1 by a high superhuman power1 which seemed able to push through mountains1 and to walk the sea4 ,with winter around him1 he felt within like the spring-tide1 when all is new and bright4 ,he perceived that he had found1 what indeed he had never sought1 because he had never known what it was1 but what he had ever wanted1--a soul sympathetic with his own4 ,he felt he was no longer alone in the world1 though he was losing that true congenial mind the very moment he had found him4 ,was this1 he asked himself1 the communion of ,saints8 ,alas6 how could it be1 when he was in one communion and ,willis in another8 ,o mighty ,mother6 burst from his lips2 he quickened his pace almost to a trot1 scaling the steep ascents and diving into the hollows which lay between him and ,boughton4 ,o mighty ,mother6 he still said1 half unconsciously2 ,o mighty ,mother6 ,i come1 ,o mighty ,mother6 ,i come2 but ,i am far from home4 ,spare me a little2 ,i come with what speed ,i may1 but ,i am slow of foot1 and not as others1 ,o mighty ,mother6 ,by the time he had walked two miles in this excitement1 bodily and mental1 he felt himself1 as was not wonderful1 considerably exhausted4 ,he slackened his pace1 and gradually came to himself1 but still he went on1 as if mechanically1 ,o mighty ,mother6 ,suddenly he cried1 ,hallo6 where did ,i get these words8 ,willis did not use them4 ,well1 ,i must be on my guard against these wild ways4 ,any one can be an enthusiast2 enthusiasm is not truth 444 ,o mighty ,mother6444 ,alas1 ,i know where my heart is6 but ,i must go by reason 444 ,o mighty ,mother6 ,,chapter ,,xxi4 ,the time came at length for ,charles to return to ,oxford2 but during the last month scruples had arisen in his mind1 whether1 with his present feelings1 he could consistently even present himself for his examination4 ,no subscription was necessary for his entrance into the schools1 but he felt that the honours of the class-list were only intended for those who were bon fide adherents of the ,church of ,england4 ,he laid his difficulty before ,carlton1 who in consequence did his best to ascertain thoroughly his present state of mind4 ,it seemed that ,charles had no intention1 either now or at any future day1 of joining the ,church of ,rome2 that he felt he could not take such a step at present without distinct sin2 that it would simply be against his conscience to do so2 that he had no feeling whatever that ,god called him to do so2 that he felt that nothing could justify so serious an act but the conviction that he could not be saved in the ,church to which he belonged2 that he had no such feeling2 that he had no definite case against his own ,church sufficient for leaving it1 nor any definite view that the ,church of ,rome was the ,one ,church of ,christ3--that still he could not help suspecting that one day he should think otherwise2 he conceived the day might come1 nay would come1 when he should have that conviction which at present he had not1 and which of course would be a call on him to act upon it1 by leaving the ,church of ,england for that of ,rome2 he could not tell distinctly why he so anticipated1 except that there were so many things which he thought right in the ,church of ,rome1 and so many which he thought wrong in the ,church of ,england2 and1 because1 too1 the more he had an opportunity of hearing and seeing1 the greater cause he had to admire and revere the ,roman ,catholic system1 and to be dissatisfied with his own4 ,carlton1 after carefully considering the case1 advised him to go in for his examination4 ,he acted thus1 on the one hand1 as vividly feeling the changes which take place in the minds of young men1 and the difficulty of ,reding foretelling his own state of opinions two years to come2 and1 on the other1 from the reasonable anticipation that a contrary advice would have been the very way to ripen his present doubts on the untenableness of ,anglicanism into conviction4 ,accordingly1 his examination came off in due time2 the schools were full1 he did well1 and his class was considered to be secure4 ,sheffield followed soon after1 and did brilliantly4 ,the list came out2 ,sheffield was in the first class1 ,charles in the second4 ,there is always of necessity a good deal of accident in these matters2 but in the present case reasons enough could be given to account for the unequal success of the two friends4 ,charles had lost some time by his father's death1 and family matters consequent upon it2 and his virtual rustication for the last six months had been a considerable disadvantage to him4 ,moreover1 though he had been a careful1 persevering reader1 he certainly had not run the race for honours with the same devotion as ,sheffield2 nor had his religious difficulties1 particularly his late indecision about presenting himself at all1 been without their serious influence upon his attention and his energy4 ,as success had not been the first desire of his soul1 so failure was not his greatest misery4 ,he would have much preferred success2 but in a day or two he found he could well endure the want of it4 ,now came the question about his degree1 which could not be taken without subscription to the ,articles4 ,another consultation followed with ,carlton4 ,there was no need of his becoming a ,b4,a4 at the moment2 nothing would be gained by it2 better that he should postpone the step4 ,he had but to go down and say nothing about it2 no one would be the wiser2 and if1 at the end of six months1 as ,carlton sanguinely anticipated1 he found himself in a more comfortable frame of mind1 then let him come up1 and set all right4 ,what was he to do with himself at the moment8 ,there was little difficulty here either1 what to propose4 ,he had better be reading with some clergyman in the country2 thus he would at once be preparing for orders1 and clearing his mind on the points which at present troubled him2 besides1 he might thus have some opportunity for parochial duty1 which would have a tranquillizing and sobering effect on his mind4 ,as to the books to which he should give his attention1 of course the choice would rest with the clergyman who was to guide him2 but for himself ,carlton would not recommend the usual works in controversy with ,rome1 for which the ,anglican ,church was famous2 rather those which are of a positive character1 which treated subjects philosophically1 historically1 or doctrinally1 and displayed the peculiar principles of that ,church2 ,hooker's great work1 for instance2 or ,bull's ,defensio and ,harmonia1 or ,pearson's ,vindici1 or ,jackson on the ,creed1 a noble work2 to which ,laud on ,tradition might be added1 though its form was controversial4 ,such1 too1 were ,bingham's ,antiquities1 ,waterland on the ,use of ,antiquity1 ,wall on ,infant ,baptism1 and ,palmer on the ,liturgy4 ,nor ought he to neglect practical and devotional authors1 as ,bishops ,taylor1 ,wilson1 and ,horne4 ,the most important point remained2 whither was he to betake himself8 did he know of any clergyman in the country who would be willing to receive him as a friend and a pupil8 ,charles thought of ,campbell1 with whom he was on the best of terms2 and ,carlton knew enough of him by reputation1 to be perfectly sure that he could not be in safer hands4 ,charles1 in consequence1 made the proposal to him1 and it was accepted4 ,nothing then remained for him but to pay a few bills1 to pack up some books which he had left in a friend's room1 and then to bid adieu1 at least for a time1 to the cloisters and groves of the ,university4 ,he quitted in ,june1 when everything was in that youthful and fragrant beauty which he had admired so much in the beginning of his residence three years before4 ,part ,,iii4 ,,chapter ,i4 ,but now we must look forward1 not back4 ,once before we took leave to pass over nearly two years in the life of the subject of this narrative1 and now a second and a dreary and longer interval shall be consigned to oblivion1 and the reader shall be set down in the autumn of the year next but one after that in which ,charles took his class and did not take his degree4 ,at this time our interest is confined to ,boughton and the ,rectory at ,sutton4 ,as to ,melford1 friend ,bateman had accepted the incumbency of a church in a manufacturing town with a district of #aj1jjj souls1 where he was full of plans for the introduction of the surplice and gilt candlesticks among his people1 and where1 it is to be hoped1 he will learn wisdom4 ,willis also was gone1 on a different errand3 he had bid adieu to his mother and brother soon after ,charles had gone into the schools1 and now was ,father ,aloysius de ,sanct ,cruce in the ,passionist ,convent of ,pennington4 ,one evening1 at the end of ,september1 in the year aforesaid1 ,campbell had called at ,boughton1 and was walking in the garden with ,miss ,reding4 ,really1 ,mary1 he said to her1 ,i don't think it does any good to keep him4 ,the best years of his life are going1 and1 humanly speaking1 there is not any chance of his changing his mind1 at least till he has made a trial of the ,church of ,rome4 ,it is quite possible that experience may drive him back4 ,it is a dreadful dilemma1 she answered2 how can we even indirectly give him permission to take so fatal a step8 ,he is a dear1 good fellow1 he made reply2 he is a sterling fellow2 all this long time that he has been with me he has made no difficulties2 he has read thoroughly the books that ,i recommended and more1 and done whatever ,i told him4 ,you know ,i have employed him in the parish2 he has taught the ,catechism to the children1 and been almoner4 ,poor fellow1 his health is suffering now3 he sees there's no end of it1 and hope deferred makes the heart sick4 ,it is so dreadful to give any countenance to what is so very wrong1 said ,mary4 ,why1 what is to be done8 answered ,campbell2 and we need not countenance it2 he can't be kept in leading-strings for ever1 and there has been a kind of bargain4 ,he wanted to make a move at the end of the first year--,i didn't think it worth while to fidget you about it--but ,i quieted him4 ,we compounded in this way3 he removed his name from the college-boards1--there was not the slightest chance of his ever signing the ,articles1--and he consented to wait another year4 ,now the time's up1 and more1 and he is getting impatient4 ,so it's not we who shall be giving him countenance1 it will only be his leaving us4 ,but it is so fearful1 insisted ,mary2 and my poor mother--,i declare ,i think it will be her death4 ,it will be a crushing blow1 there's no doubt of that1 said ,campbell2 what does she know of it at present8 ,i hardly can tell you1 answered she2 she has been informed of it indeed distinctly a year ago2 but seeing ,charles so often1 and he in appearance just the same1 ,i fear she does not realize it4 ,she has never spoken to me on the subject4 ,i fancy she thinks it a scruple2 troublesome1 certainly1 but of course temporary4 ,i must break it to her1 ,mary1 said ,campbell4 ,well1 ,i think it must be done1 she replied1 heaving a sudden sigh2 and if so1 it will be a real kindness in you to save me a task to which ,i am quite unequal4 ,but have a talk with ,charles first4 ,when it comes to the point he may have a greater difficulty than he thinks beforehand4 ,and so it was settled2 and1 full of care at the double commission with which he was charged1 ,campbell rode back to ,sutton4 ,poor ,charles was sitting at an open window1 looking out upon the prospect1 when ,campbell entered the room4 ,it was a beautiful landscape1 with bold hills in the distance1 and a rushing river beneath him4 ,campbell came up to him without his perceiving it2 and1 putting his hand on his shoulder1 asked his thoughts4 ,charles turned round1 and smiled sadly4 ,i am like ,moses seeing the land1 he said2 my dear ,campbell1 when shall the end be8 ,that1 my good ,charles1 of course does not rest with me1 answered ,campbell4 ,well1 said he1 the year is long run out2 may ,i go my way8 ,you can't expect that ,i1 or any of us1 should even indirectly countenance you in what1 with all our love of you1 we think a sin1 said ,campbell4 ,that is as much as to say1 ',act for yourself1' answered ,charles2 well1 ,i am willing4 ,campbell did not at once reply2 then he said1 ,i shall have to break it to your poor mother2 ,mary thinks it will be her death4 ,charles dropped his head on the window-sill1 upon his hands4 ,no1 he said2 ,i trust that she1 and all of us1 will be supported4 ,so do ,i1 fervently1 answered ,campbell2 it will be a most terrible blow to your sisters4 ,my dear fellow1 should you not take all this into account8 ,do seriously consider the actual misery you are causing for possible good4 ,do you think ,i have not considered it1 ,campbell8 ,is it nothing for one like me to be breaking all these dear ties1 and to be losing the esteem and sympathy of so many persons ,i love8 ,oh1 it has been a most piercing thought2 but ,i have exhausted it1 ,i have drunk it out4 ,i have got familiar with the prospect now1 and am fully reconciled4 ,yes1 ,i give up home1 ,i give up all who have ever known me1 loved me1 valued me1 wished me well2 ,i know well ,i am making myself a by-word and an outcast4 ,oh1 my dear ,charles1 answered ,campbell1 beware of a very subtle temptation which may come on you here4 ,i have meant to warn you of it before4 ,the greatness of the sacrifice stimulates you2 you do it because it is so much to do4 ,charles smiled4 ,how little you know me6 he said2 if that were the case1 should ,i have waited patiently two years and more8 ,why did ,i not rush forward as others have done8 ,you will not deny that ,i have acted rationally1 obediently4 ,i have put the subject from me again and again1 and it has returned4 ,i'll say nothing harsh or unkind of you1 ,charles1 said ,campbell2 but it's a most unfortunate delusion4 ,i wish ,i could make you take in the idea that there is the chance of its being a delusion4 ,ah1 ,campbell1 how can you forget so8 answered ,charles2 don't you know this is the very thing which has influenced me so much all along8 ,i said1 ',perhaps ,i am in a dream4 ,oh1 that ,i could pinch myself and awake6' ,you know what stress ,i laid on my change of feeling upon my dear father's death2 what ,i thought to be convictions before1 vanished then like a cloud4 ,i have said to myself1 ',perhaps these will vanish too4' ,but no2 'the clouds return after the rain2' they come again and again1 heavier than ever4 ,it is a conviction rooted in me2 it endures against the prospect of loss of mother and sisters4 ,here ,i sit wasting my days1 when ,i might be useful in life4 ,why8 ,because this hinders me4 ,lately it has increased on me tenfold4 ,you will be shocked1 but let me tell you in confidence1--lately ,i have been quite afraid to ride1 or to bathe1 or to do anything out of the way1 lest something should happen1 and ,i might be taken away with a great duty unaccomplished4 ,no1 by this time ,i have proved that it is a real conviction4 ,my belief in the ,church of ,rome is part of myself2 ,i cannot act against it without acting against ,god4 ,it is a most deplorable state of things certainly1 said ,campbell1 who had begun to walk up and down the room2 that it is a delusion1 ,i am confident2 perhaps you are to find it so1 just when you have taken the step4 ,you will solemnly bind yourself to a foreign creed1 and1 as the words part from your mouth1 the mist will roll up from before your eyes1 and the truth will show itself4 ,how dreadful6 ,i have thought of that too1 said ,charles1 and it has influenced me a great deal4 ,it has made me shrink back4 ,but ,i now believe it to be like those hideous forms which in fairy tales beset good knights1 when they would force their way into some enchanted palace4 ,recollect the words in ,thalaba1 ',the talisman is faith4' ,if ,i have good grounds for believing1 to believe is a duty2 ,god will take care of ,his own work4 ,i shall not be deserted in my utmost need4 ,faith ever begins with a venture1 and is rewarded with sight4 ,yes1 my good ,charles1 answered ,campbell2 but the question is1 whether your grounds are good4 ,what ,i mean is1 that1 since they are not good1 they will not avail you in the trial4 ,you will then1 too late1 find they are not good1 but delusive4 ,campbell1 answered ,charles1 ,i consider that all reason comes from ,god2 our grounds must at best be imperfect2 but if they appear to be sufficient after prayer1 diligent search1 obedience1 waiting1 and1 in short1 doing our part1 they are ,his voice calling us on4 ,he it is1 in that case1 who makes them seem convincing to us4 ,i am in ,his hands4 ,the only question is1 what would ,he have me to do8 ,i cannot resist the conviction which is upon me4 ,this last week it has possessed me in a different way than ever before4 ,it is now so strong1 that to wait longer is to resist ,god4 ,whether ,i join the ,catholic ,church is now simply a question of days4 ,i wish1 dear ,campbell1 to leave you in peace and love4 ,therefore1 consent2 let me go4 ,let you go6 answered ,campbell2 certainly1 were it the ,catholic ,church to which you are going1 there would be no need to ask2 but 'let you go1' how can you expect it from us when we do not think so8 ,think of our case1 ,charles1 as well as your own2 throw yourself into our state of feeling4 ,for myself1 ,i cannot deny1 ,i never have concealed from you my convictions1 that the ,romish ,church is antichristian4 ,she has ten thousand gifts1 she is in many respects superior to our own2 but she has a something in her which spoils all4 ,i have no confidence in her2 and1 that being the case1 how can ,i 'let you go' to her8 ,no3 it's like a person saying1 ',let me go and hang myself2' 'let me go sleep in a fever-ward2' 'let me jump into that well2'--how can ,i 'let you go'8 ,ah1 said ,charles1 that's our dreadful difference2 we can't get farther than that4 ,i think the ,church of ,rome the ,prophet of ,god2 you1 the tool of the devil4 ,i own1 said ,campbell1 ,i do think that1 if you take this step1 you will find yourself in the hands of a ,circe1 who will change you1 make a brute of you4 ,charles slightly coloured4 ,i won't go on1 added ,campbell2 ,i pain you2 it's no good2 perhaps ,i am making matters worse4 ,neither spoke for some time4 ,at length ,charles got up1 came up to ,campbell1 took his hand1 and kissed it4 ,you have been a kind1 disinterested friend to me for two years1 he said2 you have given me a lodging under your roof2 and now we are soon to be united by closer ties4 ,god reward you2 but 'let me go1 for the day breaketh4' ,it is hopeless6 cried ,campbell2 let us part friends3 ,i must break it to your mother4 ,in ten days after this conversation ,charles was ready for his journey2 his room put to rights2 his portmanteau strapped2 and a gig at the door1 which was to take him the first stage4 ,he was to go round by ,boughton2 it had been arranged by ,campbell and ,mary that it would be best for him not to see his mother 7to whom ,campbell had broken the matter at once7 till he took leave of her4 ,it would be needless pain to both of them to attempt an interview sooner4 ,charles leapt from the gig with a beating heart1 and ran up to his mother's room4 ,she was sitting by the fire at her work when he entered2 she held out her hand coldly to him1 and he sat down4 ,nothing was said for a little while2 then1 without leaving off her occupation1 she said1 ,well1 ,charles1 and so you are leaving us4 ,where and how do you propose to employ yourself when you have entered upon your new life8 ,charles answered that he had not yet turned his mind to the consideration of anything but the great step on which everything else depended4 ,there was another silence2 then she said1 ,you won't find anywhere such friends as you have had at home1 ,charles4 ,presently she continued1 ,you have had everything in your favour1 ,charles2 you have been blessed with talents1 advantages of education1 easy circumstances2 many a deserving young man has to scramble on as he can4 ,charles answered that he was deeply sensible how much he owed in temporal matters to ,providence1 and that it was only at ,his bidding that he was giving them up4 ,we all looked up to you1 ,charles2 perhaps we made too much of you2 well1 ,god be with you2 you have taken your line4 ,poor ,charles said that no one could conceive what it cost him to give up what was so very dear to him1 what was part of himself2 there was nothing on earth which he prized like his home4 ,then why do you leave us8 she said quickly2 you must have your way2 you do it1 ,i suppose1 because you like it4 ,oh really1 my dear mother1 cried he1 if you saw my heart6 ,you know in ,scripture how people were obliged in the ,apostles' times to give up all for ,christ4 ,we are heathens1 then1 she replied2 thank you1 ,charles1 ,i am obliged to you for this2 and she dashed away a tear from her eye4 ,charles was almost beside himself2 he did not know what to say2 he stood up1 and leaned his elbow on the mantelpiece1 supporting his head on his hand4 ,well1 ,charles1 she continued1 still going on with her work1 perhaps the day will come 444 her voice faltered2 your dear father 444 she put down her work4 ,it is useless misery1 said ,charles2 why should ,i stay8 good-bye for the present1 my dearest mother4 ,i leave you in good hands1 not kinder1 but better than mine2 you lose me1 you gain another4 ,farewell for the present2 we will meet when you will1 when you call2 it will be a happy meeting4 ,he threw himself on his knees1 and laid his cheek on her lap2 she could no longer resist him2 she hung over him1 and began to smooth down his hair as she had done when he was a child4 ,at length scalding tears began to fall heavily upon his face and neck2 he bore them for a while1 then started up1 kissed her cheek impetuously1 and rushed out of the room4 ,in a few seconds he had seen and had torn himself from his sisters1 and was in his gig again by the side of his phlegmatic driver1 dancing slowly up and down on his way to ,collumpton4 ,,chapter ,,ii4 ,the reader may ask whither ,charles is going1 and1 though it would not be quite true to answer that he did not know better than the said reader himself1 yet he had most certainly very indistinct notions what was becoming of him even locally1 and1 like the ,patriarch1 went out1 not knowing whither he went4 ,he had never seen a ,catholic priest1 to know him1 in his life2 never1 except once as a boy1 been inside a ,catholic church2 he only knew one ,catholic in the world1 and where he was he did not know4 ,but he knew that the ,passionists had a ,convent in ,london2 and it was not unnatural that1 without knowing whether young ,father ,aloysius was there or not1 he should direct his course to ,san ,michaele4 ,yet1 in kindness to ,mary and all of them1 he did not profess to be leaving direct for ,london2 but he proposed to betake himself to ,carlton1 who still resided in ,oxford1 and to ask his advice what was to be done under his circumstances4 ,it seemed1 too1 to be interposing what they would consider a last chance of averting what to them was so dismal a calamity4 ,to ,oxford1 then1 he directed his course2 and1 having some accidental business at ,bath1 he stopped there for the night1 intending to continue his journey next morning4 ,among other jobs1 he had to get a ,garden of the ,soul1 and two or three similar books which might help him in the great preparation which awaited his arrival in ,london4 ,he went into a religious publisher's in ,danvers ,street with that object1 and while engaged in a back part of the shop in looking over a pile of ,catholic works1 which1 to the religious public1 had inferior attractions to the glittering volumes1 ,evangelical and ,anglo-,catholic1 which had possession of the windows and principal table1 he heard the shop-door open1 and1 on looking round1 saw a familiar face4 ,it was that of a young clergyman1 with a very pretty girl on his arm1 whom her dress pronounced to be a bride4 ,love was in their eyes1 joy in their voice1 and affluence in their gait and bearing4 ,charles had a faintish feeling come over him2 somewhat such as might beset a man on hearing a call for pork-chops when he was sea-sick4 ,he retreated behind a pile of ledgers and other stationery1 but they could not save him from the low1 dulcet tones which from time to time passed from one to the other4 ,have you got some of the last ,oxford reprints of standard works8 said the bridegroom to the shopman4 ,yes1 sir2 but which set did you mean8 ',selections from ,old ,divines1' or1 ',new ,catholic ,adaptations'8 ,oh1 not the ,adaptations1 answered he1 they are extremely dangerous2 ,i mean real ,church-of-,england divinity--,bull1 ,patrick1 ,hooker1 and the rest of them4 ,the shopman went to look them out4 ,i think it was those ,adaptations1 dearest1 said the lady1 that the ,bishop warned us against4 ,not the ,bishop1 ,louisa2 it was his daughter4 ,oh1 ,miss ,primrose1 so it was1 said she2 and there was one book she recommended1 what was it8 ,not a book1 it was a speech1 said ,white2 ,mr4 ,o',ballaway's at ,exeter ,hall2 but ,i think we should not quite like it4 ,no1 no1 ,henry1 it was a book1 dear2 ,i can't recall the name4 ,you mean ,dr4 ,crow's ',new ,refutation of ,popery1' perhaps2 but the ,bishop recommended that4 ,the shopman returned4 ,oh1 what a sweet face6 she said1 looking at the frontispiece of a little book she got hold of2 do look1 ,henry2 whom does it put you in mind of8 ,why1 it's meant for ,st4 ,john the ,baptist1 said ,henry4 ,it's so like little ,angelina ,primrose1 said she1 the hair is just hers4 ,i wonder it doesn't strike you4 ,it does--it does1 said he1 smiling at her2 but it's getting late2 you must not be out much longer in the sharp air1 and you have nothing for your throat4 ,i have chosen my books while you have been gazing on that little ,st4 ,john4 ,i can't think who it is so like1 continued she2 oh1 ,i know2 it's ,angelina's aunt1 ,lady ,constance4 ,come1 ,louisa1 the horses too will suffer2 we must return to our friends4 ,oh1 there's one book1 ,i can't recollect it2 tell me what it is1 ,henry4 ,i shall be so sorry not to have got it4 ,was it the new work on ,gregorian ,chants8 asked he4 ,ah1 it's true1 ,i want it for the school-children1 but it's not that4 ,is it ',the ,catholic ,parsonage'8 he asked again2 or1 ',lays of the ,apostles'8 or1 ',the ,english ,church older than the ,roman'8 or1 ',anglicanism of the ,early ,martyrs'8 or1 ',confessions of a ,pervert'8 or1 ',eustace ,beville'8 or1 ',modified ,celibacy'8 ,no1 no1 no1 said ,louisa2 dear me1 it is so stupid4 ,well1 now really1 ,louisa1 he insisted1 you must come another time2 it won't do1 dearest2 it won't do4 ,oh1 ,i recollect1 she said1 ,i recollect--',abbeys and ,abbots2' ,i want to get some hints for improving the rectory-windows when we get home2 and our church wants1 you know1 a porch for the poor people4 ,the book is full of designs4 ,the book was found and added to the rest1 which had been already taken to the carriage4 ,now1 ,louisa1 said ,white4 ,well1 dearest1 there's one more place we must call at1 she made answer2 tell ,john to drive to ,sharp's2 we can go round by the nursery--it's only a few steps out of the way--,i want to say a word to the man there about our greenhouse2 there is no good gardener in our own neighbourhood4 ,what is the good1 ,louisa1 now8 said her husband2 we shan't be at home this month to come2 and then1 with due resignation1 he directed the coachman to the nurseryman's whom ,louisa named1 as he put her into the carriage1 and then followed her4 ,charles breathed freely as they went out2 a severe text of ,scripture rose on his mind1 but he repressed the uncharitable feeling1 and turned himself to the anxious duties which lay before him4 ,,chapter ,,iii4 ,nothing happened to ,charles worth relating before his arrival at ,steventon next day2 when1 the afternoon being fine1 he left his portmanteau to follow him by the omnibus1 and put himself upon the road4 ,if it required some courage to undertake by himself a long journey on an all-momentous errand1 it did not lessen the difficulty that that journey took in its way a place and a person so dear to him as ,oxford and ,carlton4 ,he had passed through ,bagley ,wood1 and the spires and towers of the ,university came on his view1 hallowed by how many tender associations1 lost to him for two whole years1 suddenly recovered--recovered to be lost for ever6 ,there lay old ,oxford before him1 with its hills as gentle and its meadows as green as ever4 ,at the first view of that beloved place he stood still with folded arms1 unable to proceed4 ,each college1 each church--he counted them by their pinnacles and turrets4 ,the silver ,isis1 the grey willows1 the far-stretching plains1 the dark groves1 the distant range of ,shotover1 the pleasant village where he had lived with ,carlton and ,sheffield--wood1 water1 stone1 all so calm1 so bright1 they might have been his1 but his they were not4 ,whatever he was to gain by becoming a ,catholic1 this he had lost2 whatever he was to gain higher and better1 at least this and such as this he never could have again4 ,he could not have another ,oxford1 he could not have the friends of his boyhood and youth in the choice of his manhood4 ,he mounted the well-known gate on the left1 and proceeded down into the plain4 ,there was no one to greet him1 to sympathize with him2 there was no one to believe he needed sympathy2 no one to believe he had given up anything2 no one to take interest in him1 to feel tender towards him1 to defend him4 ,he had suffered much1 but there was no one to believe that he had suffered4 ,he would be thought to be inflicting merely1 not undergoing1 suffering4 ,he might indeed say that he had suffered2 but he would be rudely told that every one follows his own will1 and that if he had given up ,oxford1 it was for a whim which he liked better than it4 ,but rather1 there was no one to know him2 he had been virtually three years away2 three years is a generation2 ,oxford had been his place once1 but his place knew him no more4 ,he recollected with what awe and transport he had at first come to the ,university1 as to some sacred shrine2 and how from time to time hopes had come over him that some day or other he should have gained a title to residence on one of its ancient foundations4 ,one night in particular came across his memory1 how a friend and he had ascended to the top of one of its many towers with the purpose of making observations on the stars2 and how1 while his friend was busily engaged with the pointers1 he1 earthly-minded youth1 had been looking down into the deep1 gas-lit1 dark-shadowed quadrangles1 and wondering if he should ever be ,fellow of this or that ,college1 which he singled out from the mass of academical buildings4 ,all had passed as a dream1 and he was a stranger where he had hoped to have had a home4 ,he was drawing near ,oxford2 he saw along the road before him brisk youths pass1 two and two1 with elastic tread1 finishing their modest daily walk1 and nearing the city4 ,what had been a tandem a mile back1 next crossed his field of view1 shorn of its leader4 ,presently a stately cap and gown loomed in the distance2 he had gained the road before their owner crossed him2 it was a college-tutor whom he had known a little4 ,charles expected to be recognized2 but the resident passed by with that half-conscious1 uncertain gaze which seemed to have some memory of a face which yet was strange4 ,he had passed ,folly ,bridge2 troops of horsemen overtook him1 talking loud1 while with easy jaunty pace they turned into their respective stables4 ,he crossed to ,christ ,church1 and penetrated to ,peckwater4 ,the evening was still bright1 and the gas was lighting4 ,groups of young men were stationed here and there1 the greater number in hats1 a few in caps1 one or two with gowns in addition2 some were hallooing up to their companions at the windows of the second story2 scouts were carrying about ger dinners2 pastry-cook boys were bringing in desserts2 shabby fellows with ,blenheim puppies were loitering under ,canterbury ,gate4 ,many stared1 but no one knew him4 ,he hurried up ,oriel ,lane2 suddenly a start and a low bow from a passer-by2 who could it be8 it was a superannuated shoeblack of his college1 to whom he had sometimes given a stray shilling4 ,he gained the ,high ,street1 and turned down towards the ,angel4 ,what was approaching8 the vision of a proctor4 ,charles felt some instinctive quiverings2 but it passed by him1 and did no harm4 ,like ,kehama1 he had a charmed life4 ,and now he had reached his inn1 where he found his portmanteau all ready for him4 ,he chose a bedroom1 and1 after fully inducting himself into it1 turned his thoughts towards dinner4 ,he wished to lose no time1 but1 if possible1 to proceed to ,london the following morning4 ,it would be a great point if he could get to his journey's end so early in the week1 that by ,sunday1 if he was thought worthy1 he might offer up his praises for the mercies vouchsafed to him in the great and holy communion of the ,universal ,church4 ,accordingly he determined to make an attempt on ,carlton that evening2 and hoped1 if he went to his room between seven and eight1 to find him returned from ,common-,room4 ,with this intention he sallied out at about the half-hour1 gained ,carlton's ,college1 knocked at the gate1 entered1 passed on1 up the worn wooden steep staircase4 ,the oak was closed2 he descended1 found a servant2 ,mr4 ,carlton was giving a dinner in ,common-,room2 it would soon be over4 ,charles determined to wait for him4 ,the servant lighted candles in the inner room1 and ,charles sat down at the fire4 ,for awhile he sat in reflection2 then he looked about for something to occupy him4 ,his eye caught an ,oxford paper2 it was but a few days old4 ,let us see how the old place goes on1 he said to himself1 as he took it up4 ,he glanced from one article to another1 looking who were the ,university-preachers of the week1 who had taken degrees1 who were public examiners1 etc41 etc41 when his eye was arrested by the following paragraph3-- ,,defection ,,from ,,the ,,church4--,we understand that another victim has lately been added to the list of those whom the venom of ,tractarian principles has precipitated into the bosom of the ,sorceress of ,rome4 ,mr4 ,reding1 of ,st4 ,saviour's1 the son of a respectable clergyman of the ,establishment1 deceased1 after eating the bread of the ,church all his life1 has at length avowed himself the subject and slave of an ,italian ,bishop4 ,disappointment in the schools is said to have been the determining cause of this infatuated act4 ,it is reported that legal measures are in progress for directing the penalties of the ,statute of ,prmunire against all the seceders2 and a proposition is on foot for petitioning her ,majesty to assign the sum thereby realized by the ,government to the erection of a ',martyrs' ,memorial' in the sister ,university4 ,so1 thought ,charles1 the world1 as usual1 is beforehand with me2 and he sat speculating about the origin of the report till he almost forgot that he was waiting for ,carlton4 ,,chapter ,,iv4 ,while ,charles was learning in ,carlton's rooms the interest which the world took in his position and acts1 he was actually furnishing a topic of conversation to that portion of it who were ,carlton's guests in the neighbouring ,common-,room4 ,tea and coffee had made their appearance1 the men had risen from table1 and were crowding round the fire4 ,who is that ,mr4 ,reding spoken of in the ,gazette of last week8 said a prim little man1 sipping his tea with his spoon1 and rising on his toes as he spoke4 ,you need not go far for an answer1 said his neighbour1 and1 turning to their host1 added1 ,carlton1 who is ,mr4 ,reding8 ,a very dear honest fellow1 answered ,carlton3 ,i wish we were all of us as good4 ,he read with me one ,long ,vacation1 is a good scholar1 and ought to have gained his class4 ,i have not heard of him for some time4 ,he has other friends in the room1 said another3 ,i think1 turning to a young ,fellow of ,leicester1 you1 ,sheffield1 were at one time intimate with ,reding8 ,yes1 answered ,sheffield2 and ,vincent1 of course1 knows him too2 he's a capital fellow2 ,i know him exceedingly well2 what the ,gazette says about him is shameful4 ,i never met a man who cared less about success in the schools2 it was quite his fault4 ,that's about the truth1 said another2 ,i met ,mr4 ,malcolm yesterday at dinner1 and it seems he knows the family4 ,he said that his religious notions carried ,reding away1 and spoiled his reading4 ,the conversation was not general2 it went on in detached groups1 as the guests stood together4 ,nor was the subject a popular one2 rather it was either a painful or a disgusting subject to the whole party1 two or three curious and hard minds excepted1 to whom opposition to ,catholicism was meat and drink4 ,besides1 in such chance collections of men1 no one knew exactly his neighbour's opinion about it2 and1 as in this instance1 there were often friends of the accused or calumniated present4 ,and1 moreover1 there was a generous feeling1 and a consciousness how much seceders from the ,anglican ,church were giving up1 which kept down any disrespectful mention of them4 ,are you to do much in the schools this term8 said one to another4 ,i don't know3 we have two men going up1 good scholars4 ,who has come into ,stretton's place8 ,jackson1 of ,king's4 ,jackson8 indeed2 he's strong in science1 ,i think4 ,very4 ,our men know their books well1 but ,i should not say that science is their line4 ,leicester sends four4 ,it will be a large class-list1 from what ,i hear4 ,ah6 indeed6 the ,michaelmas paper is always a good one4 ,meanwhile the conversation was in another quarter dwelling upon poor ,charles4 ,no1 depend upon it1 there's more in what the ,gazette says than you think4 ,disappointment is generally at the bottom of these changes4 ,poor devils6 they can't help it1 said another1 in a low voice1 to his neighbour4 ,a good riddance1 anyhow1 said the party addressed2 we shall have a little peace at last4 ,well1 said the first of the two1 drawing himself up and speaking in the air1 how any educated man should-- his voice was overpowered by the grave enunciation of a small man behind them1 who had hitherto kept silence1 and now spoke with positiveness4 ,he addressed himself1 between the two heads which had just been talking in private1 to the group beyond them4 ,it's all the effect of rationalism1 he said2 the whole movement is rationalistic4 ,at the end of three years all those persons who have now apostatized will be infidels4 ,no one responded2 at length another of the party came up to ,mr4 ,malcolm's acquaintance1 and said1 slowly1 ,i suppose you never heard it hinted that there is something wrong here in ,mr4 ,reding1 touching his forehead significantly2 ,i have been told it's in the family4 ,he was answered by a deep1 powerful voice1 belonging to a person who sat in the corner2 it sounded like the great bell of ,bow1 as if it ought to have closed the conversation4 ,it said abruptly1 ,i respect him uncommonly2 ,i have an extreme respect for him4 ,he's an honest man2 ,i wish others were as honest4 ,if they were1 then1 as the ,puseyites are becoming ,catholics1 so we should see old ,brownside and his clique becoming ,unitarians4 ,but they mean to stick in4 ,most persons present felt the truth of his remark1 and a silence followed it for a while4 ,it was broken by a clear cackling voice3 ,did you ever hear1 said he1 nodding his head1 or rather his whole person1 as he spoke1 did you ever1 ,sheffield1 happen to hear that this gentleman1 your friend ,mr4 ,reding1 when he was quite a freshman1 had a conversation with some attach of the ,popish ,chapel in this place1 at the very door of it1 after the men were gone down8 ,impossible1 ,fusby1 said ,carlton1 and laughed4 ,it's quite true1 returned ,fusby2 ,i had it from the ,under-,marshal1 who was passing at the moment4 ,my eye has been on ,mr4 ,reding for some years4 ,so it seems1 said ,sheffield1 for that must have been at least1 let me see1 four or five years ago4 ,oh1 continued ,fusby1 there are two or three more yet to come2 you will see4 ,why1 ,fusby1 said ,vincent1 overhearing and coming up1 you are like the three old crones in the ,bride of ,lammermoor1 who wished to have the straiking of the ,master of ,ravenswood4 ,fusby nodded his person1 but made no answer4 ,not all three at once1 ,i hope1 said ,sheffield4 ,oh1 it's quite a concentration1 a quintessence of ,protestant feeling1 answered ,vincent2 ,i consider myself a good ,protestant2 but the pleasure you have in hunting these men is quite sensual1 ,fusby4 ,the ,common-,room man here entered1 and whispered to ,carlton that a stranger was waiting for him in his rooms4 ,when do your men come up8 said ,sheffield to ,vincent4 ,next ,saturday1 answered ,vincent4 ,they always come up late1 said ,sheffield4 ,yes1 the ,house met last week4 ,st4 ,michael's has met too1 said ,sheffield3 so have we4 ,we have a reason for meeting late3 many of our men come from the ,north and from ,ireland4 ,that's no reason1 with railroads4 ,i see they have begun our rail1 said ,vincent2 ,i thought the ,university had opposed it4 ,the ,pope in his own states has given in1 said ,sheffield1 so we may well do the same4 ,don't talk of the ,pope1 said ,vincent1 ,i'm sick of the ,pope4 ,the ,pope8 said ,fusby1 overhearing2 have you heard that his ,holiness is coming to ,england8 ,oh1 oh1 cried ,vincent1 come1 ,i can't stand this4 ,i must go2 good night t'you1 ,carlton4 ,where's my gown8 ,i believe the ,common-,room man has hung it up in the passage2--but you should stop and protect me from ,fusby4 ,neither did ,vincent turn to the rescue1 nor did ,fusby profit by the hint2 so poor ,carlton1 with the knowledge that he was wanted in his rooms1 had to stay a good half-hour tte--tte with the latter1 while he prosed to him in extenso about ,pope ,sixtus ,,xiv41 the ,jesuits1 suspected men in the ,university1 ,mede on the ,apostasy1 the ,catholic ,relief ,bill1 ,dr4 ,pusey's ,tract on ,baptism1 ,justification1 and the appointment of the ,taylor ,professors4 ,at length1 however1 ,carlton was released4 ,he ran across the quadrangle and up his staircase2 flung open his door1 and made his way to his inner room4 ,a person was just rising to meet him2 impossible6 but it was though4 ,what8 ,reding6 he cried2 who would have thought6 what a pleasure6 we were just-- 444 ,what brings you here8 he added1 in an altered tone4 ,then gravely1 ,reding1 where are you8 ,not yet a ,catholic1 said ,reding4 ,there was a silence2 the answer conveyed a good deal3 it was a relief1 but it was an intimation4 ,sit down1 my dear ,reding2 will you have anything8 have you dined8 ,what a pleasure to see you1 old fellow6 ,are we really to lose you8 ,they were soon in conversation on the great subject4 ,,chapter ,v4 ,if you have made up your mind1 ,reding1 said ,carlton1 it's no good talking4 ,may you be happy wherever you are6 ,you must always be yourself2 as a ,romanist1 you will still be ,charles ,reding4 ,i know ,i have a kind1 sympathizing friend in you1 ,carlton4 ,you have always listened to me1 never snubbed me except when ,i deserved it4 ,you know more about me than any one else4 ,campbell is a dear1 good fellow1 and will soon be dearer to me still4 ,it isn't generally known yet1 but he is to marry my sister4 ,he has borne with me now for two years2 never been hard upon me2 always been at my service when ,i wanted to talk with him4 ,but no one makes me open my heart as you do1 ,carlton2 you sometimes have differed from me1 but you have always understood me4 ,thank you for your kind words1 answered ,carlton2 but to me it is a perfect mystery why you should leave us4 ,i enter into your reasons3 ,i cannot1 for the life of me1 see how you come to your conclusion4 ,to me1 on the other hand1 ,carlton1 it is like two and two make four2 and you make two and two five1 and are astonished that ,i won't agree with you4 ,we must leave these things to a higher power1 said ,carlton4 ,i hope we sha'n't be less friends1 ,reding1 when you are in another communion4 ,we know each other2 these outward things cannot change us4 ,reding sighed2 he saw clearly that his change of religion1 when completed1 would not fail to have an effect on ,carlton's thoughts about him1 as on those of others4 ,it could not possibly be otherwise2 he was sure himself to feel different about ,carlton4 ,after a while1 ,carlton said gently1 ,is it quite impossible1 ,reding1 that now at the eleventh hour we may retain you8 what are your grounds8 ,don't let us argue1 dear ,carlton1 answered ,reding2 ,i have done with argument4 ,or1 if ,i must say something for manners' sake1 ,i will but tell you that ,i have fulfilled your request4 ,you bade me read the ,anglican divines2 ,i have given a great deal of time to them1 and ,i am embracing that creed which alone is the scope to which they converge in their separate teachings2 the creed which upholds the divinity of tradition with ,laud1 consent of ,fathers with ,beveridge1 a visible ,church with ,bramhall1 dogma with ,bull1 the authority of the ,pope with ,thorndike1 penance with ,taylor1 prayers for the dead with ,ussher1 celibacy1 asceticism1 ecclesiastical discipline with ,bingham4 ,i am going to a ,church1 which in these1 and a multitude of other points1 is nearer the ,apostolic ,church than any existing one2 which is the continuation of the ,apostolic ,church1 if it has been continued at all4 ,and seeing it to be like the ,apostolic ,church1 ,i believe it to be the same4 ,reason has gone first1 faith is to follow4 ,he stopped1 and ,carlton did not reply2 a silence ensued1 and ,charles at length broke it4 ,i repeat1 it's no use arguing2 ,i have made up my mind1 and been very slow about it4 ,i have broken it to my mother1 and bade her farewell4 ,all is determined2 ,i cannot go back4 ,is that a nice feeling8 said ,carlton1 half reproachfully4 ,understand me1 answered ,reding2 ,i have come to my resolution with great deliberation4 ,it has remained on my mind as a mere intellectual conclusion for a year or two2 surely now at length without blame ,i may change it into a practical resolve4 ,but none of us can answer that those habitual and ruling convictions1 on which it is our duty to act1 will remain before our consciousness every moment1 when we come into the hurry of the world1 and are assailed by inducements and motives of various kinds4 ,therefore ,i say that the time of argument is past2 ,i act on a conclusion already drawn4 ,but how do you know1 asked ,carlton1 but what you have been unconsciously biassed in arriving at it8 one notion has possessed you1 and you have not been able to shake it off4 ,the ability to retain your convictions in the bustle of life is to my mind the very test1 the necessary test of their reality4 ,i do1 ,i do retain them1 answered ,reding2 they are always upon me4 ,only at times1 as you have yourself confessed1 objected ,carlton3 surely you ought to have a very strong conviction indeed1 to set against the mischief you are doing by a step of this kind4 ,consider how many persons you are unsettling2 what a triumph you are giving to the enemies of all religion2 what encouragement to the notion that there is no such thing as truth2 how you are weakening our ,church4 ,well1 all ,i say is1 that you should have very strong convictions to set against all this4 ,well1 said ,charles1 ,i grant1 ,i maintain1 that the only motive which is sufficient to justify such an act1 is the conviction that one's salvation depends on it4 ,now1 ,i speak sincerely1 my dear ,carlton1 in saying that ,i don't think ,i shall be saved if ,i remain in the ,english ,church4 ,do you mean that there is no salvation in our ,church8 said ,carlton1 rather coldly4 ,i am talking of myself2 it's not my place to judge others4 ,i only say1 ,god calls me1 and ,i must follow at the risk of my soul4 ,god 'calls' you6 said ,carlton2 what does that mean8 ,i don't like it2 it's dissenting language4 ,you know it is ,scripture language1 answered ,reding4 ,yes1 but people don't in ,scripture say ',i'm called2' the calling was an act from without1 the act of others1 not an inward feeling4 ,but1 my dear ,carlton1 how is a person to get at truth1 now1 when there can be no simple outward call8 ,that seems to me a pretty good intimation1 answered ,carlton1 that we are to remain where ,providence has placed us4 ,now this is just one of the points on which ,i can't get at the bottom of the ,church of ,england's doctrine1 ,reding replied4 ,but it's so on so many other subjects6 it's always so4 ,are members of the ,church of ,england to seek the truth1 or have they it given them from the first8 do they seek it for themselves1 or is it ready provided for them8 ,carlton thought a moment1 and seemed doubtful what to answer2 then he said that we must1 of course1 seek it4 ,it was a part of our moral probation to seek the truth4 ,then don't talk to me about our position1 said ,charles2 ,i hardly expected you to make this answer2 but it is what the majority of ,church-of-,england people say4 ,they tell us to seek1 they give us rules for seeking1 they make us exert our private judgment2 but directly we come to any conclusion but theirs1 they turn round and talk to us of our 'providential position4' ,but there's another thing4 ,tell me1 supposing we ought all to seek the truth1 do you think that members of the ,english ,church do seek it in that way which ,scripture enjoins upon all seekers8 ,think how very seriously ,scripture speaks of the arduousness of finding1 the labour of seeking1 the duty of thirsting after the truth8 ,i don't believe the bulk of the ,english clergy1 the bulk of ,oxford residents1 ,heads of houses1 ,fellows of ,colleges 7with all their good points1 which ,i am not the man to deny71 have ever sought the truth4 ,they have taken what they found1 and have used no private judgment at all4 ,or if they have judged1 it has been in the vaguest1 most cursory way possible2 or they have looked into ,scripture only to find proofs for what they were bound to subscribe1 as undergraduates getting up the ,articles4 ,then they sit over their wine1 and talk about this or that friend who has 'seceded1' and condemn him1 and 7glancing at the newspaper on the table7 assign motives for his conduct4 ,yet1 after all1 which is the more likely to be right1--he who has given years1 perhaps1 to the search of truth1 who has habitually prayed for guidance1 and has taken all the means in his power to secure it1 or they1 'the gentlemen of ,england who sit at home at ease'8 ,no1 no1 they may talk of seeking the truth1 of private judgment1 as a duty1 but they have never sought1 they have never judged2 they are where they are1 not because it is true1 but because they find themselves there1 because it is their 'providential position1' and a pleasant one into the bargain4 ,reding had got somewhat excited2 the paragraph in the newspaper had annoyed him4 ,but1 without taking that into account1 there was enough in the circumstances in which he found himself to throw him out of his ordinary state of mind4 ,he was in a crisis of peculiar trial1 which a person must have felt to understand4 ,few men go to battle in cold blood1 or prepare without agitation for a surgical operation4 ,carlton1 on the other hand1 was a quiet1 gentle person1 who was not heard to use an excited word once a year4 ,the conversation came to a stand4 ,at length ,carlton said1 ,i hope1 dear ,reding1 you are not joining the ,church of ,rome merely because there are unreasonable1 unfeeling persons in the ,church of ,england4 ,charles felt that he was not showing to advantage1 and that he was giving rise to the very surmises about the motives of his conversion which he was deprecating4 ,it is a sad thing1 he said1 with something of self-reproach1 to spend our last minutes in wrangling4 ,forgive me1 ,carlton1 if ,i have said anything too strongly or earnestly4 ,carlton thought he had2 he thought him in an excited state2 but it was no use telling him so2 so he merely pressed his offered hand affectionately1 and said nothing4 ,presently he said1 dryly and abruptly1 ,reding1 do you know any ,roman ,catholics8 ,no1 answered ,reding2 ,willis indeed1 but ,i hav'n't seen even him these two years4 ,it has been entirely the working of my own mind4 ,carlton did not answer at once2 then he said1 as dryly and abruptly as before1 ,i suspect1 then1 you will have much to bear with when you know them4 ,what do you mean8 asked ,reding4 ,you will find them under-educated men1 ,i suspect4 ,what do you know of them8 said ,reding4 ,i suspect it1 answered ,carlton4 ,but what's that to the purpose8 asked ,charles4 ,it's a thing you should think of4 ,an ,english clergyman is a gentleman2 you may have more to bear than you reckon for1 when you find yourself with men of rude minds and vulgar manners4 ,my dear ,carlton1 a'n't you talking of what you know nothing at all about8 ,well1 but you should think of it1 you should contemplate it1 said ,carlton2 ,i judge from their letters and speeches which one reads in the papers4 ,charles thought awhile2 then he said1 ,certainly1 ,i don't like many things which are done and said by ,roman ,catholics just now2 but ,i don't see how all this can be more than a trial and a cross2 ,i don't see how it affects the great question4 ,no1 except that you may find yourself a fish out of water1 answered ,carlton2 you may find yourself in a position where you can act with no one1 where you will be quite thrown away4 ,well1 said ,charles1 as to the fact1 ,i know nothing about it2 it may be as you say1 but ,i don't think much of your proof4 ,in all communities the worst is on the outside4 ,what offends me in ,catholic public proceedings need be no measure1 nay1 ,i believe cannot be a measure1 of the inward ,catholic mind4 ,i would not judge the ,anglican ,church by ,exeter ,hall1 nay1 not by ,episcopal ,charges4 ,we see the interior of our own ,church1 the exterior of the ,church of ,rome4 ,this is not a fair comparison4 ,but look at their books of devotion1 insisted ,carlton2 they can't write ,english4 ,reding smiled at ,carlton1 and slowly shook his head to and fro1 while he said1 ,they write ,english1 ,i suppose1 as classically as ,st4 ,john writes ,greek4 ,here again the conversation halted1 and nothing was heard for a while but the simmering of the kettle4 ,there was no good in disputing1 as might be seen from the first2 each had his own view1 and that was the beginning and the end of the matter4 ,charles stood up4 ,well1 dearest ,carlton1 he said1 we must part2 it must be going on for eleven4 ,he pulled out of his pocket a small ,christian ,year4 ,you have often seen me with this1 he continued1 accept it in memory of me4 ,you will not see me1 but here is a pledge that ,i will not forget you1 that ,i will ever remember you4 ,he stopped1 much affected4 ,oh1 it is very hard to leave you all1 to go to strangers1 he went on2 ,i do not wish it1 but ,i cannot help it2 ,i am called1 ,i am compelled4 ,he stopped again2 the tears flowed down his cheeks4 ,all is well1 he said1 recovering himself1 all is well2 but it's hard at the time1 and scarcely any one to feel for me2 black looks1 bitter words4444 ,i am pleasing myself1 following my own will 444 well4444 and he began looking at his fingers and slowly rubbing his palms one on another4 ,it must be1 he whispered to himself1 through tribulation to the kingdom1 sowing in tears1 reaping in joy4444 ,another pause1 and a new train of thought came over him2 ,oh1 he said1 ,i fear so very much1 so very much1 that all you who do not come forward will go back4 ,you cannot stand where you are2 for a time you will think you do1 then you will oppose us1 and still think you keep your ground while you use the same words as before2 but your belief1 your opinions will decline4 ,you will hold less4 ,and then1 in time1 it will strike you that1 in differing with ,protestants1 you are contending only about words4 ,they call us ,rationalists2 take care you don't fall into ,liberalism4 ,and now1 my dearest ,carlton1 my one friend in ,oxford who was patient and loving towards me1 good-bye4 ,may we meet not long hence in peace and joy4 ,i cannot go to you2 you must come to me4 ,they embraced each other affectionately2 and the next minute ,charles was running down the staircase4 ,,chapter ,,vi4 ,charles went to bed with a bad headache1 and woke with a worse4 ,nothing remained but to order his bill and be off for ,london4 ,yet he could not go without taking a last farewell of the place itself4 ,he was up soon after seven2 and while the gownsmen were rising and in their respective chapels1 he had been round ,magdalen ,walk and ,christ ,church ,meadow4 ,there were few or none to see him wherever he went4 ,the trees of the ,water ,walk were variegated1 as beseemed the time of year1 with a thousand hues1 arching over his head1 and screening his side4 ,he reached ,addison's ,walk2 there he had been for the first time with his father1 when he was coming into residence1 just six years before to a day4 ,he pursued it1 and onwards still1 till he came round in sight of the beautiful tower1 which at length rose close over his head4 ,the morning was frosty1 and there was a mist2 the leaves flitted about2 all was in unison with the state of his feelings4 ,he re-entered the monastic buildings1 meeting with nothing but scouts with boxes of cinders1 and old women carrying off the remains of the kitchen4 ,he crossed to the ,meadow1 and walked steadily down to the junction of the ,cherwell with the ,isis2 he then turned back4 ,what thoughts came upon him6 for the last time6 ,there was no one to see him2 he threw his arms round the willows so dear to him1 and kissed them2 he tore off some of their black leaves and put them in his bosom4 ,i am like ,undine1 he said1 killing with a kiss4 ,no one cares for me2 scarce a person knows me4 ,he neared the ,long ,walk again4 ,suddenly1 looking obliquely into it1 he saw a cap and gown2 he looked anxiously2 it was ,jennings3 there was no mistake2 and his direction was towards him4 ,charles always had felt kindly towards him1 in spite of his sternness1 but he would not meet him for the world2 what was he to do8 he stood behind a large elm1 and let him pass2 then he set off again at a quick pace4 ,when he had got some way1 he ventured to turn his head round2 and he saw ,jennings at the moment1 by that sort of fatality or sympathy which is so common1 turning round towards him4 ,he hurried on1 and soon found himself again at his inn4 ,strange as it may seem1 though he had on the whole had as good success as ,carlton in the keen encounter of their wits the night before1 it had left an unsatisfactory effect on his mind4 ,the time for action was come2 argument was past1 as he had himself said2 and to recur to argument was only to confuse the clearness of his apprehension of the truth4 ,he began to question whether he really had evidence enough for the step he was taking1 and the temptation assailed him that he was giving up this world without gaining the next4 ,carlton evidently thought him excited2 what if it were true8 ,perhaps his convictions were1 after all1 a dream2 what did they rest upon8 ,he tried to recall his best arguments1 and could not4 ,was there1 after all1 any such thing as truth8 ,was not one thing as good as another8 ,at all events1 could he not have served ,god well in his generation1 where he had been placed8 ,he recollected some lines in the ,ethics of ,aristotle1 quoted by the philosopher from an old poet1 in which the poor outcast ,philoctetes laments over his own stupid officiousness1 as he calls it1 which had been the cause of his misfortunes4 ,was he not a busybody too8 ,why could he not let well alone8 ,better men than he had lived and died in the ,english ,church4 ,and then what if1 as ,campbell had said1 all his so-called convictions were to vanish just as he entered the ,roman pale1 as they had done on his father's death8 ,he began to envy ,sheffield2 all had turned out well with him--a good class1 a fellowship1 merely or principally because he had taken things as they came1 and not gone roaming after visions4 ,he felt himself violently assaulted2 but he was not deserted1 not overpowered4 ,his good sense1 rather his good ,angel1 came to his aid2 evidently he was in no way able to argue or judge at that moment2 the deliberate conclusions of years ought not to be set aside by the troubled thoughts of an hour4 ,with an effort he put the whole subject from him1 and addressed himself to his journey4 ,how he got to ,steventon he hardly recollected2 but gradually he came to himself1 and found himself in a first-class of the ,great ,western1 proceeding rapidly towards ,london4 ,he then looked about him to ascertain who his fellow-travellers were4 ,the farther compartment was full of passengers1 who seemed to form one party1 talking together with great volubility and glee4 ,of the three seats in his own part of the carriage1 one only1 that opposite to him1 was filled4 ,on taking a survey of the stranger1 he saw a grave person passing or past the middle age2 his face had that worn1 or rather that unplacid appearance1 which even slight physical suffering1 if habitual1 gives to the features1 and his eyes were pale from study or other cause4 ,charles thought he had seen his face before1 but he could not recollect where or when4 ,but what most interested him was his dress and appearance1 which was such as is rarely found in a travelling-companion4 ,it was of an unusual character1 and1 taken together with the small office-book he held in his hand1 plainly showed ,charles that he was opposite a ,roman ecclesiastic4 ,his heart beat1 and he felt tempted to start from his seat2 then a sick feeling and a sinking came over him4 ,he gradually grew calmer1 and journeyed on some time in silence1 longing yet afraid to speak4 ,at length1 on the train stopping at the station1 he addressed a few words to him in ,french4 ,his companion looked surprised1 smiled1 and in a hesitating1 saddish voice said that he was an ,englishman4 ,charles made an awkward apology1 and there was silence again4 ,their eyes sometimes met1 and then moved slowly off each other1 as if a mutual reconnoitring was in progress4 ,at length it seemed to strike the stranger that he had abruptly stopped the conversation2 and1 after apparently beating about for an introductory topic1 he said1 ,perhaps ,i can read you1 sir1 better than you can me4 ,you are an ,oxford man by your appearance4 ,charles assented4 ,a bachelor8 ,he was of near ,master's standing4 ,his companion1 who did not seem in a humour for talking1 proceeded to various questions about the ,university1 as if out of civility4 ,what colleges sent ,proctors that year8 ,were the ,taylor ,professors appointed8 ,were they members of the ,church of ,england8 ,did the new ,bishop of ,bury keep his ,headship8 c41 c4 ,some matter-of-fact conversation followed1 which came to nothing4 ,charles had so much to ask2 his thoughts were busy1 and his mind full4 ,here was a ,catholic priest ready for his necessities2 yet the opportunity was likely to pass away1 and nothing to come of it4 ,after one or two fruitless efforts1 he gave it up1 and leant back in his seat4 ,his fellow-traveller began1 as quietly as he could1 to say office4 ,time went forward1 the steam was let off and put on2 the train stopped and proceeded1 and the office was apparently finished2 the book vanished in a side-pocket4 ,after a time ,charles suddenly said1 ,how came you to suppose ,i was of ,oxford8 ,not entirely by your look and manner1 for ,i saw you jump from the omnibus at ,steventon2 but with that assistance it was impossible to mistake4 ,i have heard others say the same1 said ,charles2 yet ,i can't myself make out how an ,oxford man should be known from another4 ,not only ,oxford men1 but ,cambridge men1 are known by their appearance2 soldiers1 lawyers1 beneficed clergymen2 indeed every class has its external indications to those who can read them4 ,i know persons1 said ,charles1 who believe that handwriting is an indication of calling and character4 ,i do not doubt it1 replied the priest2 the gait is another2 but it is not all of us who can read so recondite a language4 ,yet a language it is1 as really as hieroglyphics on an obelisk4 ,it is a fearful thought1 said ,charles with a sigh1 that we1 as it were1 exhale ourselves every breath we draw4 ,the stranger assented2 ,a man's moral self1 he said1 is concentrated in each moment of his life2 it lives in the tips of his fingers1 and the spring of his insteps4 ,a very little thing tries what a man is made of4 ,i think ,i must be speaking to a ,catholic priest8 said ,charles3 when his question was answered in the affirmative1 he went on hesitatingly to ask if what they had been speaking of did not illustrate the importance of faith8 ,one did not see at first sight1 he said1 how it was rational to maintain that so much depended on holding this or that doctrine1 or a little more or a little less1 but it might be a test of the heart4 ,his companion looked pleased2 however1 he observed1 that there was no 'more or less' in faith2 that either we believed the whole revealed message1 or really we believed no part of it2 that we ought to believe what the ,church proposed to us on the word of the ,church4 ,yet surely the so-called ,evangelical believes more than the ,unitarian1 and the ,high-,churchman than the ,evangelical1 objected ,charles4 ,the question1 said his fellow-traveller1 is1 whether they submit their reason implicitly to that which they have received as ,god's word4 ,charles assented4 ,would you say1 then1 he continued1 that the ,unitarian really believes as ,god's word that which he professes to receive1 when he passes over and gets rid of so much that is in that word8 ,certainly not1 said ,charles4 ,and why8 ,because it is plain1 said ,charles1 that his ultimate standard of truth is not the ,scripture1 but1 unconsciously to himself1 some view of things in his mind which is to him the measure of ,scripture4 ,then he believes himself1 if we may so speak1 said the priest1 and not the external word of ,god4 ,certainly4 ,well1 in like manner1 he continued1 do you think a person can have real faith in that which he admits to be the word of ,god1 who passes by1 without attempting to understand1 such passages as 'the ,church the pillar and ground of the truth2' or1 'whosesoever sins ye forgive1 they are forgiven2' or1 'if any man is sick1 let him call for the priests of the ,church1 and let them anoint him with oil'8 ,no1 said ,charles2 but1 in fact1 we do not profess to have faith in the mere text of ,scripture4 ,you know1 sir1 he added hesitatingly1 that the ,anglican doctrine is to interpret ,scripture by the ,church2 therefore we have faith1 like ,catholics1 not in ,scripture simply1 but in the whole word committed to the ,church1 of which ,scripture is a part4 ,his companion smiled3 ,how many1 he asked1 so profess8 ,but1 waiving this question1 ,i understand what a ,catholic means by saying that he goes by the voice of the ,church2 it means1 practically1 by the voice of the first priest he meets4 ,every priest is the voice of the ,church4 ,this is quite intelligible4 ,in matters of doctrine1 he has faith in the word of any priest4 ,but what1 where1 is that 'word' of the ,church which the persons you speak of believe in8 and when do they exercise their belief8 ,is it not an undeniable fact1 that1 so far from all ,anglican clergymen agreeing together in faith1 what the first says1 the second will unsay8 so that an ,anglican cannot1 if he would1 have faith in them1 and necessarily1 though he would not1 chooses between them4 ,how1 then1 has faith a place in the religion of an ,anglican8 ,well1 said ,charles1 ,i am sure ,i know a good many persons--and if you knew the ,church of ,england as ,i do1 you would not need me to tell you--who1 from knowledge of the ,gospels1 have an absolute conviction and an intimate sense of the reality of the sacred facts contained in them1 which1 whether you call it faith or not1 is powerful enough to colour their whole being with its influence1 and rules their heart and conduct as well as their imagination4 ,i can't believe that these persons are out of ,god's favour2 yet1 according to your account of the matter1 they have not faith4 ,do you think these persons believe and practise all that is brought home to them as being in ,scripture8 asked his companion4 ,certainly they do1 answered ,charles1 as far as man can judge4 ,then perhaps they may be practising the virtue of faith2 if there are passages in it to which they are insensible1 as about the sacraments1 penance1 and extreme unction1 or about the ,see of ,peter1 ,i should in charity think that these passages had never been brought home or applied to their minds and consciences--just as a ,pope's ,bull may be for a time unknown in a distant part of the ,church4 ,they may be#a in involuntary ignorance4 ,yet ,i fear that1 taking the whole nation1 there are few who on this score can lay claim to faith4 #a ,errantes invincibiliter circa aliquos articulos1 et credentes alios1 non sunt formaliter hretici1 sed habent fidem supernaturalem1 qu credunt veros articulos1 atque adeo ex e possunt procedere actus perfect contritionis1 quibus justificentur et salventur4--,de ,lugo de ,fid41 p4 #afi4 ,charles said this did not fully meet the difficulty2 faith1 in the case of these persons1 at least was not faith in the word of the ,church4 ,his companion would not allow this2 he said they received the ,scripture on the testimony of the ,church1 that at least they were believing the word of ,god1 and the like4 ,presently ,charles said1 ,it is to me a great mystery how the ,english people1 as a whole1 is ever to have faith again2 is there evidence enough for faith8 ,his new friend looked surprised and not over-pleased2 ,surely1 he said1 in matter of fact1 a man may have more evidence for believing the ,church to be the messenger of ,god1 than he has for believing the four ,gospels to be from ,god4 ,if1 then1 he already believes the latter1 why should he not believe the former8 ,but the belief in the ,gospels is a traditional belief1 said ,charles2 that makes all the difference4 ,i cannot see how a nation like ,england1 which has lost the faith1 ever can recover it4 ,hence1 in the matter of conversion1 ,providence has generally visited simple and barbarous nations4 ,the converts of the ,roman ,empire were1 ,i suppose1 a considerable exception1 said the priest4 ,still1 it seems to me a great difficulty1 answered ,charles2 ,i do not see1 when the dogmatic structure is once broken down1 how it is ever to be built up again4 ,i fancy there is a passage somewhere in ,carlyle's ',french ,revolution' on the subject1 in which the author laments over the madness of men's destroying what they could not replace1 what it would take centuries and a strange combination of fortunate circumstances to reproduce1 an external received creed4 ,i am not denying1 ,god forbid6 the objectivity of revelation1 or saying that faith is a sort of happy and expedient delusion2 but1 really1 the evidence for revealed doctrine is so built up on probabilities that ,i do not see what is to introduce it into a civilized community1 where reason has been cultivated to the utmost1 and argument is the test of truth4 ,many a man will say1 ',oh1 that ,i had been educated a ,catholic6' but he has not so been2 and he finds himself unable1 though wishing1 to believe1 for he has not evidence enough to subdue his reason4 ,what is to make him believe8 ,his fellow-traveller had for some time shown signs of uneasiness2 when ,charles stopped1 he said1 shortly1 but quietly1 ,what is to make him believe6 the will1 his will4 ,charles hesitated2 he proceeded2 ,if there is evidence enough to believe ,scripture1 and we see that there is1 ,i repeat1 there is more than enough to believe the ,church4 ,the evidence is not in fault2 all it requires is to be brought home or applied to the mind2 if belief does not then follow1 the fault lies with the will4 ,well1 said ,charles1 ,i think there is a general feeling among educated ,anglicans1 that the claims of the ,roman ,church do not rest on a sufficiently intellectual basis2 that the evidences1 or notes1 were well enough for a rude age1 not for this4 ,this is what makes me despair of the growth of ,catholicism4 ,his companion looked round curiously at him1 and then said1 quietly1 ,depend upon it1 there is quite evidence enough for a moral conviction that the ,catholic or ,roman ,church1 and none other1 is the voice of ,god4 ,do you mean1 said ,charles1 with a beating heart1 that before conversion one can attain to a present abiding actual conviction of this truth8 ,i do not know1 answered the other2 but1 at least1 he may have habitual moral certainty2 ,i mean1 a conviction1 and one only1 steady1 without rival conviction1 or even reasonable doubt1 present to him when he is most composed and in his hours of solitude1 and flashing on him from time to time1 as through clouds1 when he is in the world2--a conviction to this effect1 ',the ,roman ,catholic ,church is the one only voice of ,god1 the one only way of salvation4' ,then you mean to say1 said ,charles1 while his heart beat faster1 that such a person is under no duty to wait for clearer light4 ,he will not have1 he cannot expect1 clearer light before conversion4 ,certainty1 in its highest sense1 is the reward of those who1 by an act of the will1 and at the dictate of reason and prudence1 embrace the truth1 when nature1 like a coward1 shrinks4 ,you must make a venture2 faith is a venture before a man is a ,catholic2 it is a gift after it4 ,you approach the ,church in the way of reason1 you enter into it in the light of the ,spirit4 ,charles said that he feared there was a great temptation operating on many well-informed and excellent men1 to find fault with the evidence for ,catholicity1 and to give over the search1 on the excuse that there were arguments on both sides4 ,it is not one set of men1 answered his companion2 it is the grievous deficiency in ,englishmen altogether4 ,englishmen have many gifts1 faith they have not4 ,other nations1 inferior to them in many things1 still have faith4 ,nothing will stand in place of it2 not a sense of the beauty of ,catholicism1 or of its awfulness1 or of its antiquity2 not an appreciation of the sympathy which it shows towards sinners3 not an admiration of the ,martyrs and early ,fathers1 and a delight in their writings4 ,individuals may display a touching gentleness1 or a conscientiousness which demands our reverence2 still1 till they have faith1 they have not the foundation1 and their superstructure will fall4 ,they will not be blessed1 they will effect nothing in religious matters1 till they begin by an act of unreserved faith in the word of ,god1 whatever it be2 till they go out of themselves2 till they cease to make something within them their standard1 till they oblige their will to perfect what reason leaves sufficient1 indeed1 but incomplete4 ,and when they shall recognize this defect in themselves1 and try to remedy it1 then they will recognize much more2--they will be on the road very shortly to be ,catholics4 ,there was nothing in all this exactly new to ,reding2 but it was pleasant to hear it from the voice of another1 and him a priest4 ,thus he had sympathy and authority1 and felt he was restored to himself4 ,the conversation stopped4 ,after a while he disclosed to his new friend the place for which he was bound1 which1 after what ,charles had already been saying1 could be no great surprise to him4 ,the latter knew the ,superior of ,san ,michaele1 and1 taking out a card1 wrote upon it a few words of introduction for him4 ,by this time they had reached ,paddington2 and scarcely had the train stopped1 when the priest took his small carpet-bag from under his seat1 wrapped his cloak around him1 stepped out of the carriage1 and was walking out of sight at a brisk pace4 ,,chapter ,,vii4 ,reding naturally wished to take the important step he was meditating as quietly as he could2 and had adopted what he considered satisfactory measures for this purpose4 ,but such arrangements often turn out very differently from their promise2 and so it was in his case4 ,the ,passionist ,house was in the eastern part of ,london2 so far well2--and as he knew in the neighbourhood a respectable publisher in the religious line1 with whom his father had dealt1 he had written to him to bespeak a room in his house for the few days which he trusted would suffice for the process of his reception4 ,what was to happen to him after it1 he left for the advice he might get from those in whose hands he found himself4 ,it was now ,wednesday2 he hoped to have two days to prepare himself for his confession1 and then he proposed to present himself before those who were to receive it4 ,his better plan would have been to have gone to the ,religious ,house at once1 where doubtless the good fathers would have lodged him1 secured him from intrusion1 and given him the best advice how to proceed4 ,but we must indulge him1 if1 doing so great a work1 he likes to do it in his own way2 nor must we be hard on him1 though it be not the best way4 ,on arriving at his destination1 he saw in the deportment of his host grounds for concluding that his coming was not only expected1 but understood4 ,doubtless1 then1 the paragraph of the ,oxford ,gazette had been copied into the ,london papers2 nor did it relieve his unpleasant surprise to find1 as he passed to his room1 that the worthy bibliopolist had a reading-room attached to his shop1 which was far more perilous to his privacy than a coffee-room would have been4 ,he was not obliged1 however1 to mix with the various parties who seemed to frequent it2 and he determined as far as possible to confine himself to his apartment4 ,the rest of the day he employed in writing letters to friends3 his conversation of the morning had tranquillized him2 he went to bed peaceful and happy1 slept soundly1 rose late1 and1 refreshed in mind and body1 turned his thoughts to the serious duties of the day4 ,breakfast over1 he gave a considerable time to devotional exercises1 and then1 opening his writing-desk1 addressed himself to his work4 ,hardly had he got into it when his landlord made his appearance2 and1 with many apologies for his intrusion1 and a hope that he was not going to be impertinent1 proceeded to inquire if ,mr4 ,reding was a ,catholic4 ,the question had been put to him1 and he thought he might venture to solicit an answer from the person who could give the most authentic information4 ,here was an interruption1 vexatious in itself1 and perplexing in the form in which it came upon him2 it would be absurd to reply that he was on the point of becoming a ,catholic1 so he shortly answered in the negative4 ,mr4 ,mumford then informed him that there were two friends of ,mr4 ,reding's below1 who wished very much to have a few minutes' conversation with him4 ,charles could make no intelligible objection to the request2 and in the course of a few minutes their knock was heard at the room-door4 ,on his answering it1 two persons presented themselves1 apparently both strangers to him4 ,this1 however1 at the moment was a relief2 for vague fears and surmises had begun to flit across his mind as to the faces which were to make their appearance4 ,the younger of the two1 who had round full cheeks1 with a boyish air1 and a shrill voice1 advanced confidently1 and seemed to expect a recognition4 ,it broke upon ,charles that he had seen him before1 but he could not tell where4 ,i ought to know your face1 he said4 ,yes1 ,mr4 ,reding1 answered the person addressed1 you may recollect me at ,college4 ,ah1 ,i remember perfectly1 said ,reding2 ,jack the kitchen-boy at ,st4 ,saviour's4 ,yes1 said ,jack2 ,i came when young ,tom was promoted into ,dennis's place4 ,then he added1 with a solemn shake of the head1 ,i have got promotion now4 ,so it seems1 ,jack1 answered ,reding2 but what are you8 ,speak4 ,ah1 sir1 said ,jack1 we must converse in a tone of befitting seriousness2 and he added1 in a deep inarticulate voice1 his lips not being suffered to meet together1 ,sir1 ,i stand next to an ,angel now4 ,a what8 ,angel8 ,oh1 ,i know1 cried ,charles1 it's some sect2 the ,sandemanians4 ,sandemanians6 interrupted ,jack2 we hold them in abhorrence2 they are levellers2 they bring in disorder and every evil work4 ,i beg pardon1 but ,i know it is some sect1 though ,i don't recollect what4 ,i've heard about it4 ,well1 tell me1 ,jack1 what are you8 ,i am1 answered ,jack1 as if he were confessing at the tribunal of a ,proprtor1 ,i am a member of the ,holy ,catholic ,church4 ,that's right1 ,jack1 said ,reding2 but it's not distinctive enough2 so are we all2 every one will say as much4 ,hear me out1 ,mr4 ,reding1 sir1 answered ,jack1 waving his hand2 hear me1 but strike2 ,i repeat1 ,i am a member of the ,holy ,catholic ,church1 assembling in ,huggermugger ,lane4 ,ah1 said ,charles1 ,i see2 that's what the 'gods' call you2 now1 what do men8 ,men1 said ,jack1 not understanding1 however1 the allusion--men call us ,christians1 professing the opinions of the late ,rev4 ,edward ,irving1 ,b4,d4 ,i understand perfectly now1 said ,reding2 ,irvingites--,i recollect4 ,no1 sir1 he said1 not ,irvingites2 we do not follow man2 we follow wherever the ,spirit leads us2 we have given up ,tongue4 ,but ,i ought to introduce you to my friend1 who is more than an ,angel1 he proceeded modestly1 who has more than the tongue of men and angels1 being nothing short of an ,apostle1 sir4 ,mr4 ,reding1 here's the ,rev4 ,alexander ,highfly4 ,mr4 ,highfly1 this is ,mr4 ,reding4 ,mr4 ,highfly was a man of gentlemanlike appearance and manner2 his language was refined1 and his conduct was delicate2 so much so that ,charles at once changed his tone in speaking to him4 ,he came to ,mr4 ,reding1 he said1 from a sense of duty2 and there was nothing in his conversation to clash with that profession4 ,he explained that he had heard of ,mr4 ,reding's being unsettled in his religious views1 and he would not lose the opportunity of attempting so valuable an accession to the cause to which he had dedicated himself4 ,i see1 said ,charles1 smiling1 ,i am in the market4 ,it is the bargain of ,glaucus with ,diomede1 answered ,mr4 ,highfly1 for which ,i am asking your co-operation4 ,i am giving you the fellowship of ,apostles4 ,it is1 ,i recollect1 one of the characteristics of your body1 said ,charles1 to have an order of ,apostles1 in addition to ,bishops1 ,priests1 and ,deacons4 ,rather1 said his visitor1 it is the special characteristic2 for we acknowledge the orders of the ,church of ,england4 ,we are but completing the ,church system by restoring the ,apostolic ,college4 ,what ,i should complain of1 said ,charles1 were ,i at all inclined to listen to your claims1 would be the very different views which different members of your body put forward4 ,you must recollect1 sir1 answered ,mr4 ,highfly1 that we are under ,divine teaching1 and that truth is but gradually communicated to the ,church4 ,we do not pledge ourselves what we shall believe to-morrow by anything we say to-day4 ,certainly1 answered ,reding1 things have been said to me by your teachers which ,i must suppose were only private opinions1 though they seemed to be more4 ,but ,i was saying1 said ,mr4 ,highfly1 that at present we are restoring the ,gentile ,apostolate4 ,the ,church of ,england has ,bishops1 ,priests1 and ,deacons1 but a ,scriptural ,church has more2 it is plain it ought to have ,apostles4 ,in ,scripture ,apostles had the supreme authority1 and the three ,anglican orders were but subordinate to them4 ,i am disposed to agree with you there1 said ,charles4 ,mr4 ,highfly looked surprised and pleased4 ,we are restoring1 he said1 the ,church to a more ,scriptural state2 perhaps1 then1 we may reckon on your co-operation in doing so8 ,we do not ask you to secede from the ,establishment1 but to acknowledge the ,apostolic authority to which all ought to submit4 ,but does it not strike you1 ,mr4 ,highfly1 answered ,reding1 that there is a body of ,christians1 and not an inconsiderable one1 which maintains with you1 and1 what is more1 has always preserved1 that true and higher ,apostolic succession in the ,church2 a body1 ,i mean1 which1 in addition to ,episcopacy1 believes that there is a standing ordinance above ,episcopacy1 and gives it the name of the ,apostolate8 ,on the contrary1 answered ,mr4 ,highfly1 ,i consider that we are restoring what has lain dormant ever since the time of ,st4 ,paul2 nay1 ,i will say it is an ordinance which never has been carried into effect at all1 though it was in the ,divine design from the first4 ,you will observe that the ,apostles were ,jews2 but there never has been a ,gentile ,apostolate4 ,st4 ,paul indeed was ,apostle of the ,gentiles1 but the design begun in him has hitherto been frustrated4 ,he went up to ,jerusalem against the solemn warning of the ,spirit2 now we are raised up to complete that work of the ,spirit1 which was stopped by the inadvertence of the first ,apostle4 ,jack interposed3 he should be very glad1 he said1 to know what religious persuasion it was1 besides his own1 which ,mr4 ,reding considered to have preserved the succession of ,apostles as something distinct from ,bishops4 ,it is quite plain whom ,i mean--,the ,catholics1 answered ,charles4 ,the ,popedom is the true ,apostolate1 the ,pope is the successor of the ,apostles1 particularly of ,st4 ,peter4 ,we are very well inclined to the ,roman ,catholics1 answered ,mr4 ,highfly1 with some hesitation2 we have adopted a great part of their ritual2 but we are not accustomed to consider that we resemble them in what is our characteristic and cardinal tenet4 ,allow me to say it1 ,mr4 ,highfly1 said ,reding1 it is a reason why every ,irvingite--,i mean every member of your denomination--should become a ,catholic4 ,your own religious sense has taught you that there ought to be an ,apostolate in the ,church4 ,you consider that the authority of the ,apostles was not temporary1 but essential and fundamental4 ,what that authority was1 we see in ,st4 ,paul's conduct towards ,st4 ,timothy4 ,he placed him in the see of ,ephesus1 he sent him a charge1 and1 in fact1 he was his overseer or ,bishop4 ,he had the care of all the ,churches4 ,now1 this is precisely the power which the ,pope claims1 and has ever claimed2 and1 moreover1 he has claimed it1 as being the successor1 and the sole proper successor of the ,apostles1 though ,bishops may be improperly such also4#b ,and hence ,catholics call him ,vicar of ,christ1 ,bishop of ,bishops1 and the like2 and1 ,i believe1 consider that he1 in a pre-eminent sense1 is the one pastor or ruler of the ,church1 the source of jurisdiction1 the judge of controversies1 and the centre of unity1 as having the powers of the ,apostles1 and specially of ,st4 ,peter4 #b ,successores sunt1 sed ita ut potius ,vicarii dicendi sint ,apostolorum1 quam successores2 contra1 ,romanus ,pontifex1 quia verus ,petri successor est1 nonnisi per quendam abusum ejus vicarius diceretur4--,zaccar4 ,antifebr41 p4 #acj4 ,mr4 ,highfly kept silence4 ,don't you think1 then1 it would be well1 continued ,charles1 that1 before coming to convert me1 you should first join the ,catholic ,church8 at least1 you would urge your doctrine upon me with more authority if you came as a member of it4 ,and ,i will tell you frankly1 that you would find it easier to convert me to ,catholicism than to your present persuasion4 ,jack looked at ,mr4 ,highfly1 as if hoping for some decisive reply to what was a new view to him2 but ,mr4 ,highfly took a different line4 ,well1 sir1 he said1 ,i do not see that any good will come by our continuing the interview2 but your last remark leads me to observe that proselytism was not our object in coming here4 ,we did not propose more than to inform you that a great work was going on1 to direct your attention to it1 and to invite your co-operation4 ,we do not controvert2 we only wish to deliver our testimony1 and there to leave the matter4 ,i believe1 then1 we need not take up your valuable time longer4 ,with that he got up1 and ,jack with him1 and1 with many courteous bows and smiles1 which were duly responded to by ,reding1 the two visitors took their departure4 ,well1 ,i might have been worse off1 thought ,reding2 really they are gentle1 well-mannered creatures1 after all4 ,i might have been attacked by some of your furious ,exeter-,hall beasts2 but now to business4444 ,what's that8 he added4 ,alas1 it was a soft1 distinct tap at the door2 there was no mistake4 ,who's there8 come in6 he cried2 upon which the door gently opened1 and a young lady1 not without attractions of person and dress1 presented herself4 ,charles started up with vexation2 but there was no help for it1 and he was obliged to hand her a chair1 and then to wait1 all expectation1 or rather all impatience1 to be informed of her mission4 ,for a while she did not speak1 but sat1 with her head on one side1 looking at her parasol1 the point of which she fixed on the carpet1 while she slowly described a circumference with the handle4 ,at length she asked1 without raising her eyes1 whether it was true--and she spoke slowly and in what is called a spiritual tone--whether it was true1 the information had been given her1 that ,mr4 ,reding1 the gentleman she had the honour of addressing--whether it was true1 that he was in search of a religion more congenial to his feelings than that of the ,church of ,england8 ,mr4 ,reding could not give her any satisfaction on the subject of her inquiry2--he answered shortly1 and had some difficulty in keeping from rudeness in his tone4 ,the interrogation1 she went on to say1 perhaps might seem impertinent2 but she had a motive4 ,some dear sisters of hers were engaged in organizing a new religious body1 and ,mr4 ,reding's accession1 counsel1 assistance1 would be particularly valuable2 the more so1 because as yet they had not any gentleman of ,university education among them4 ,may ,i ask1 said ,charles1 the name of the intended persuasion8 ,the name1 she answered1 is not fixed2 indeed1 this is one of the points on which we should covet the privilege of the advice of a gentleman so well qualified as ,mr4 ,reding to assist us in our deliberations4 ,and your tenets1 ma'am8 ,here1 too1 she replied1 there is much still to be done2 the tenets are not fixed either1 that is1 they are but sketched2 and we shall prize your suggestions much4 ,nay1 you will of course have the opportunity1 as you would have the right1 to nominate any doctrine to which you may be especially inclined4 ,charles did not know how to answer to so liberal an offer4 ,she continued3 ,perhaps it is right1 ,mr4 ,reding1 that ,i should tell you something more about myself personally4 ,i was born in the communion of the ,church of ,england2 for a while ,i was a member of the ,new ,connexion2 and after that1 she added1 still with drooping head and languid sing-song voice1 after that1 ,i was a ,plymouth brother4 ,it got too absurd2 and ,charles1 who had for an instant been amused1 now became full of the one thought1 how to get her out of the room4 ,it was obviously left to her to keep up the conversation3 so she said presently1 ,we are all for a pure religion4 ,from what you tell me1 said ,charles1 ,i gather that every member of your new community is allowed to name one or two doctrines of his own4 ,we are all scriptural1 she made answer1 and therefore are all one2 we may differ1 but we agree4 ,still it is so1 as you say1 ,mr4 ,reding4 ,i'm for election and assurance2 our dearest friend is for perfection2 and another sweet sister is for the second advent4 ,but we desire to include among us all souls who are thirsting after the river of life1 whatever their personal views4 ,i believe you are partial to sacraments and ceremonies8 ,charles tried to cut short the interview by denying that he had any religion to seek after1 or any decision to make2 but it was easier to end the conversation than the visit4 ,he threw himself back in his chair in despair1 and half closed his eyes4 ,oh1 those good ,irvingites1 he thought1 blameless men1 who came only to protest1 and vanished at the first word of opposition2 but now thrice has the church-clock struck the quarters since her entrance1 and ,i don't see why she's not to stop here as long as it goes on striking1 since she has stopped so long4 ,she has not in her the elements of progress and decay4 ,she'll never die2 what is to become of me8 ,nor was she doomed to find a natural death2 for1 when the case seemed hopeless1 a noise was heard on the staircase1 and1 with scarcely the apology for a knock1 a wild gawky man made his appearance1 and at once cried out1 ,i hope1 sir1 it's not a bargain yet2 ,i hope it's not too late2 discharge this young woman1 ,mr4 ,reding1 and let me teach you the old truth1 which never has been repealed4 ,there was no need of discharging her2 for as kindly as she had unfolded her leaves and flourished in the sun of ,reding's forbearance1 so did she at once shrink and vanish--one could hardly tell how--before the rough accents of the intruder2 and ,charles suddenly found himself in the hands of a new tormentor4 ,this is intolerable1 he said to himself2 and1 jumping up1 he cried1 ,sir1 excuse me1 ,i am particularly engaged this morning1 and ,i must beg to decline the favour of your visit4 ,what did you say1 sir8 said the stranger2 and1 taking a note-book and a pencil from his pocket1 he began to look up in ,charles's face and write down his words1 saying half aloud1 as he wrote1 ,declines the favour of my visit4 ,then he looked up again1 keeping his pencil upon his paper1 and said1 ,now1 sir4 ,reding moved towards him1 and1 spreading his arms as one drives sheep and poultry in one direction1 he repeated1 looking towards the door1 ,really1 sir1 ,i feel the honour of your call2 but another day1 sir1 another day4 ,it is too much1 too much4 ,too much8 said the intruder2 and ,i waiting below so long6 ,that dainty lady has been good part of an hour here1 and now you can't give me five minutes1 sir4 ,why1 sir1 answered ,charles1 ,i am sure you are come on an errand as fruitless as hers2 and ,i am sick of these religious discussions1 and want to be to myself1 and to save you trouble4 ,sick of religions discussions1 said the stranger to himself1 as he wrote down the words in his note-book4 ,charles did not deign to notice his act or to explain his own expression2 he stood prepared to renew his action of motioning him to the door4 ,his tormentor then said1 ,you may like to know my name2 it is ,zerubbabel4 ,vexed as ,reding was1 he felt that he had no right to visit the tediousness of his former visitor upon his present2 so he forced himself to reply1 ,zerubbabel2 indeed2 and is ,zerubbabel your ,christian name1 sir1 or your surname8 ,it is both at once1 ,mr4 ,reding1 answered ,zerubbabel1 or rather1 ,i have no ,christian name1 and ,zerubbabel is my one ,jewish designation4 ,you are come1 then1 to inquire whether ,i am likely to become a ,jew4 ,stranger things have happened1 answered his visitor2 for instance1 ,i myself was once a deacon in the ,church of ,england4 ,then you are not a ,jew8 said ,charles4 ,i am a ,jew by choice1 he said2 after much prayer and study of ,scripture1 ,i have come to the conclusion that1 as ,judaism was the first religion1 so it's to be the last4 ,christianity ,i consider an episode in the history of revelation4 ,you are not likely to have many followers in such a belief1 said ,charles2 we are all for progress now1 not for retrograding4 ,i differ from you1 ,mr4 ,reding1 said ,zerubbabel2 see what the ,establishment is doing2 it has sent a ,bishop to ,jerusalem4 ,that is rather with the view of making the ,jews ,christians than the ,christians ,jews1 said ,reding4 ,zerubbabel wrote down3 ,thinks ,bishop of ,jerusalem is to convert the ,jews2 then1 ,i differ from you1 sir2 on the contrary1 ,i fancy the excellent ,bishop has in view to revive the distinction between ,jew and ,gentile1 which is one step towards the supremacy of the former2 for if the ,jews have a place at all in ,christianity1 as ,jews1 it must be the first place4 ,charles thought he had better let him have his talk out2 so ,zerubbabel proceeded3 ,the good ,bishop in question knows well that the ,jew is the elder brother of the ,gentile1 and it is his special mission to restore a ,jewish episcopate to the ,see of ,jerusalem4 ,the ,jewish succession has been suspended since the time of the ,apostles4 ,and now you see the reason of my calling on you1 ,mr4 ,reding4 ,it is reported that you lean towards the ,catholic ,church2 but ,i wish to suggest to you that you have mistaken the centre of unity4 ,the ,see of ,james at ,jerusalem is the true centre1 not the ,see of ,peter at ,rome4 ,peter's power is a usurpation on ,james's4 ,i consider the present ,bishop of ,jerusalem the true ,pope4 ,the ,gentiles have been in power too long2 it is now the ,jews' turn4 ,you seem to allow1 said ,charles1 that there ought to be a centre of unity and a ,pope4 ,certainly1 said ,zerubbabel1 and a ritual too1 but it should be the ,jewish4 ,i am collecting subscriptions for the rebuilding of the ,temple on ,mount ,moriah2 ,i hope too to negotiate a loan1 and we shall have ,temple stock1 yielding1 ,i calculate1 at least four per cent4 ,it has hitherto been thought a sin1 said ,reding1 to attempt rebuilding the ,temple4 ,according to you1 ,julian the ,apostate went the better way to work4 ,his motive was wrong1 sir1 answered the other2 but his act was good4 ,the way to convert the ,jews is1 first to accept their rites4 ,this is one of the greatest discoveries of this age4 ,we must make the first step towards them4 ,for myself1 ,i have adopted all which the present state of their religion renders possible4 ,and ,i don't despair to see the day when bloody sacrifices will be offered on the ,temple ,mount as of old4 ,here he came to a pause2 and ,charles making no reply1 he said1 in a brisk1 off-hand manner1 ,may ,i not hope you will give your name to this religious object1 and adopt the old ritual8 ,the ,catholic is quite of yesterday compared with it4 ,charles answering in the negative1 ,zerubbabel wrote down in his book3 ,refuses to take part in our scheme2 and disappeared from the room as suddenly as he entered it4 ,,chapter ,,viii4 ,charles's trials were not at an end2 and we suspect the reader will give a shudder at the news1 as having a very material share in the infliction4 ,yet the reader's case has this great alleviation1 that he takes up this narrative in an idle hour1 and ,charles encountered the reality in a very busy and anxious one4 ,so1 however1 it was3 not any great time elapsed after the retreat of ,zerubbabel1 when his landlord again appeared at the door4 ,he assured ,mr4 ,reding that it was no fault of his that the last two persons had called on him2 that the lady had slipped by him1 and the gentleman had forced his way2 but that he now really did wish to solicit an interview for a personage of great literary pretensions1 who sometimes dealt with him1 and who had come from the ,west ,end for the honour of an interview with ,mr4 ,reding4 ,charles groaned1 but only one reply was possible2 the day was already wasted1 and with a sort of dull resignation he gave permission for the introduction of the stranger4 ,it was a pale-faced man of about thirty-five1 who1 when he spoke1 arched his eyebrows1 and had a peculiar smile4 ,he began by expressing his apprehension that ,mr4 ,reding must have been wearied by impertinent and unnecessary visitors--visitors without intellect1 who knew no better than to obtrude their fanaticism on persons who did but despise it4 ,i know more about the ,universities1 he continued1 than to suppose that any congeniality can exist between their members and the mass of religious sectarians4 ,you have had very distinguished men among you1 sir1 at ,oxford1 of very various schools1 yet all able men1 and distinguished in the pursuit of ,truth1 though they have arrived at contradictory opinions4 ,not knowing what he was driving at1 ,reding remained in an attitude of expectation4 ,i belong1 he continued1 to a ,society which is devoted to the extension among all classes of the pursuit of ,truth4 ,any philosophical mind1 ,mr4 ,reding1 must have felt deep interest in your own party in the ,university4 ,our ,society1 in fact1 considers you to be distinguished ,confessors in that all-momentous occupation2 and ,i have thought ,i could not pay yourself individually1 whose name has lately honourably appeared in the papers1 a better compliment than to get you elected a member of our ,truth ,society4 ,and here is your diploma1 he added1 handing a sheet of paper to him4 ,charles glanced his eye over it2 it was a paper1 part engraving1 part print1 part manuscript4 ,an emblem of truth was in the centre1 represented1 not by a radiating sun or star1 as might be expected1 but as the moon under total eclipse1 surrounded1 as by cherub faces1 by the heads of ,socrates1 ,cicero1 ,julian1 ,abelard1 ,luther1 ,benjamin ,franklin1 and ,lord ,brougham4 ,then followed some sentences to the effect that the ,london ,branch ,association of the ,british and ,foreign ,truth ,society1 having evidence of the zeal in the pursuit of ,truth of ,charles ,reding1 ,esq41 member of ,oxford ,university1 had unanimously elected him into their number1 and had assigned him the dignified and responsible office of associate and corresponding member4 ,i thank the ,truth ,society very much1 said ,charles1 when he got to the end of the paper1 for this mark of their good will2 yet ,i regret to have scruples about accepting it till some of the patrons are changed1 whose heads are prefixed to the diploma4 ,for instance1 ,i do not like to be under the shadow of the ,emperor ,julian4 ,you would respect his love of ,truth1 ,i presume1 said ,mr4 ,batts4 ,not much1 ,i fear1 said ,charles1 seeing it did not hinder him from deliberately embracing error4 ,no1 not so1 answered ,mr4 ,batts2 he thought it ,truth2 and ,julian1 ,i conceive1 cannot be said to have deserted the ,truth1 because1 in fact1 he always was in pursuit of it4 ,i fear1 said ,reding1 there is a very serious difference between your principles and my own on this point4 ,ah1 my dear sir1 a little attention to our principles will remove it1 said ,mr4 ,batts3 let me beg your acceptance of this little pamphlet1 in which you will find some fundamental truths stated1 almost in the way of aphorisms4 ,i wish to direct your attention to page #h1 where they are drawn out4 ,charles turned to the page1 and read as follows3-- ,on the pursuit of ,truth4 #a4 ,it is uncertain whether ,truth exists4 #b4 ,it is certain that it cannot be found4 #c4 ,it is a folly to boast of possessing it4 #d4 ,man's work and duty1 as man1 consist1 not in possessing1 but in seeking it4 #e4 ,his happiness and true dignity consist in the pursuit4 #f4 ,the pursuit of ,truth is an end to be engaged in for its own sake4 #g4 ,as philosophy is the love1 not the possession of wisdom1 so religion is the love1 not the possession of ,truth4 #h4 ,as ,catholicism begins with faith1 so ,protestantism ends with inquiry4 #i4 ,as there is disinterestedness in seeking1 so is there selfishness in claiming to possess4 #aj4 ,the martyr of ,truth is he who dies professing that it is a shadow4 #aa4 ,a life-long martyrdom is this1 to be ever changing4 #ab4 ,the fear of error is the bane of inquiry4 ,charles did not get further than these1 but others followed of a similar character4 ,he returned the pamphlet to ,mr4 ,batts4 ,i see enough1 he said1 of the opinions of the ,truth ,society to admire their ingenuity and originality1 but1 excuse me1 not their good sense4 ,it is impossible ,i should subscribe to what is so plainly opposed to ,christianity4 ,mr4 ,batts looked annoyed4 ,we have no wish to oppose ,christianity1 he said2 we only wish ,christianity not to oppose us4 ,it is very hard that we may not go our own way1 when we are quite willing that others should go theirs4 ,it seems imprudent1 ,i conceive1 in this age1 to represent ,christianity as hostile to the progress of the mind1 and to turn into enemies of revelation those who do sincerely wish to 'live and let live4' ,but contradictions cannot be true1 said ,charles3 if ,christianity says that ,truth can be found1 it must be an error to state that it cannot be found4 ,i conceive it to be intolerant1 persisted ,mr4 ,batts3 you will grant1 ,i suppose1 that ,christianity has nothing to do with astronomy or geology3 why1 then1 should it be allowed to interfere with philosophy8 ,it was useless proceeding in the discussion2 ,charles repressed the answer which rose on his tongue of the essential connexion of philosophy with religion2 a silence ensued of several minutes1 and ,mr4 ,batts at length took the hint1 for he rose with a disappointed air1 and wished him good morning4 ,it mattered little now whether he was left to himself or not1 except that conversation harassed and fretted him2 for1 as to turning his mind to the subjects which were to have been his occupation that morning1 it was by this time far too much wearied and dissipated to undertake them4 ,on ,mr4 ,batts' departure1 then1 he did not make the attempt1 but sat before the fire1 dull and depressed1 and in danger of relapsing into the troubled thoughts from which his railroad companion had extricated him4 ,when1 then1 at the end of half an hour1 a new knock was heard at the door1 he admitted the postulant with a calm indifference1 as if fortune had now done her worst1 and he had nothing to fear4 ,a middle-aged man made his appearance1 sleek and plump1 who seemed to be in good circumstances1 and to have profited by them4 ,his glossy black dress1 in contrast with the crimson colour of his face and throat1 for he wore no collars1 and his staid and pompous bearing1 added to his rapid delivery when he spoke1 gave him much the look of a farm-yard turkey-cock in the eyes of any one who was less disgusted with seeing new faces than ,reding was at that moment4 ,the new comer looked sharply at him as he entered4 ,your most obedient1 he said abruptly2 you seem in low spirits1 my dear sir2 but sit down1 ,mr4 ,reding1 and give me the opportunity of offering to you a little good advice4 ,you may guess what ,i am by my appearance3 ,i speak for myself2 ,i will say no more2 ,i can be of use to you4 ,mr4 ,reding1 he continued1 pulling his chair towards him1 and putting out his hand as if he was going to paw him1 have not you made a mistake in thinking it necessary to go to the ,romish ,church for a relief of your religious difficulties8 ,you have not yet heard from me1 sir1 answered ,charles gravely1 that ,i have any difficulties at all4 ,excuse me if ,i am abrupt2 ,i have had many persons calling on me with your errand4 ,it is very kind of you1 but ,i don't want advice2 ,i was a fool to come here4 ,well1 my dear ,mr4 ,reding1 but listen to me1 answered his persecutor1 spreading out the fingers of his right hand1 and opening his eyes wide3 ,i am right1 ,i believe1 in apprehending that your reason for leaving the ,establishment is1 that you cannot carry out the surplice in the pulpit and the candlesticks on the table4 ,now1 don't you do more than you need4 ,pardon me1 but you are like a person who should turn the ,thames in upon his house1 when he merely wanted his door-steps scrubbed4 ,why become a convert to ,popery1 when you can obtain your object in a cheaper and better way8 ,set up for yourself1 my dear sir--set up for yourself2 form a new denomination1 sixpence will do it2 and then you may have your surplice and candlesticks to your heart's content1 without denying the gospel1 or running into the horrible abominations of the ,scarlet ,woman4 ,and he sat upright in his chair1 with his hands flat on his extended knees1 watching with a self-satisfied air the effect of his words upon ,reding4 ,i have had enough of this1 said poor ,charles2 you1 indeed1 are but one of a number1 sir1 and would say you had nothing to do with the rest2 but ,i cannot help regarding you as the fifth1 or sixth1 or seventh person--,i can't count them--who has been with me this morning1 giving me1 though with the best intentions1 advice which has not been asked for4 ,i don't know you1 sir2 you have no introduction to me2 you have not even told me your name4 ,it is not usual to discourse on such personal matters with strangers4 ,let me1 then1 thank you first for your kindness in coming1 and next for the additional kindness of going4 ,and ,charles rose up4 ,his visitor did not seem inclined to move1 or to notice what he had said4 ,he stopped awhile1 opened his handkerchief with much deliberation1 and blew his nose2 then he continued3 ,kitchens is my name1 sir2 ,dr4 ,kitchens2 your state of mind1 ,mr4 ,reding1 is not unknown to me2 you are at present under the influence of the old ,adam1 and indeed in a melancholy way4 ,i was not unprepared for it2 and ,i have put into my pocket a little tract which ,i shall press upon you with all the ,christian solicitude which brother can show towards brother4 ,here it is2 ,i have the greatest confidence in it2 perhaps you have heard the name2 it is known as ,kitchens's ,spiritual ,elixir4 ,the ,elixir has enlightened millions2 and1 ,i will take on me to say1 will convert you in twenty-four hours4 ,its operation is mild and pleasurable1 and its effects are marvellous1 prodigious1 though it does not consist of more than eight duodecimo pages4 ,here's a list of testimonies to some of the most remarkable cases4 ,i have known one hundred and two cases myself in which it effected a saving change in six hours2 seventy-nine in which its operations took place in as few as three2 and twenty-seven where conversion followed instantaneously after the perusal4 ,at once1 poor sinners1 who five minutes before had been like the demoniac in the gospel1 were seen sitting 'clothed1 and in their right mind4' ,thus ,i speak within the mark1 ,mr4 ,reding1 when ,i say ,i will warrant a change in you in twenty-four hours4 ,i have never known but one instance in which it seemed to fail1 and that was the case of a wretched old man who held it in his hand a whole day in dead silence1 without any apparent effect2 but here exceptio probat regulam1 for on further inquiry we found he could not read4 ,so the tract was slowly administered to him by another person2 and before it was finished1 ,i protest to you1 ,mr4 ,reding1 he fell into a deep and healthy slumber1 perspired profusely1 and woke up at the end of twelve hours a new creature1 perfectly new1 bran new1 and fit for heaven--whither he went in the course of the week4 ,we are now making farther experiments on its operation1 and we find that even separate leaves of the tract have a proportionate effect4 ,and1 what is more to your own purpose1 it is quite a specific in the case of ,popery4 ,it directly attacks the peccant matter1 and all the trash about sacraments1 saints1 penance1 purgatory1 and good works is dislodged from the soul at once4 ,charles remained silent and grave1 as one who was likely suddenly to break out into some strong act1 rather than condescend to any farther parleying4 ,dr4 ,kitchens proceeded3 ,have you attended any of the lectures delivered against the ,mystic ,babylon1 or any of the public disputes which have been carried on in so many places8 ,my dear friend1 ,mr4 ,macanoise1 contested ten points with thirty ,jesuits--a good half of the ,jesuits in ,london--and beat them upon all4 ,or have you heard any of the luminaries of ,exeter ,hall8 ,there is ,mr4 ,gabb2 he is a ,boanerges1 a perfect ,niagara1 for his torrent of words2 such momentum in his delivery2 it is as rapid as it's strong2 it's enough to knock a man down4 ,he can speak seven hours running without fatigue2 and last year he went through ,england1 delivering through the length and breadth of the land1 one1 and one only1 awful protest against the apocalyptic witch of ,endor4 ,he began at ,devonport and ended at ,berwick1 and surpassed himself on every delivery4 ,at ,berwick1 his last exhibition1 the effect was perfectly tremendous2 a friend of mine heard it2 he assures me1 incredible as it may appear1 that it shattered some glass in a neighbouring house2 and two priests of ,baal1 who were with their day-school within a quarter of a mile of ,mr4 ,gabb1 were so damaged by the mere echo1 that one forthwith took to his bed and the other has walked on crutches ever since4 ,he stopped awhile2 then he continued3 ,and what was it1 do you think1 ,mr4 ,reding1 which had this effect on them8 ,why1 it was ,mr4 ,gabb's notion about the sign of the beast in the ,revelation3 he proved1 ,mr4 ,reding--it was the most original hit in his speech--he proved that it was the sign of the cross1 the material cross4 ,the time at length was come2 ,reding could not bear more2 and1 as it happened1 his visitor's offence gave him the means1 as well as a cause1 for punishing him4 ,oh1 he said suddenly1 then ,i suppose1 ,dr4 ,kitchens1 you can't tolerate the cross8 ,oh no2 tolerate it6 answered ,dr4 ,kitchens2 it is ,antichrist4 ,you can't bear the sight of it1 ,i suspect1 ,dr4 ,kitchens8 ,i can't endure it1 sir2 what true ,protestant can8 ,then look here1 said ,charles1 taking a small crucifix out of his writing-desk2 and he held it before ,dr4 ,kitchens' face4 ,dr4 ,kitchens at once started on his feet1 and retreated4 ,what's that8 he said1 and his face flushed up and then turned pale2 what's that8 it's the thing itself6 and he made a snatch at it4 ,take it away1 ,mr4 ,reding2 it's an idol2 ,i cannot endure it2 take away the thing6 ,i declare1 said ,reding to himself1 it really has power over him2 and he still confronted ,dr4 ,kitchens with it1 while he kept it out of ,dr4 ,kitchens' reach4 ,take it away1 ,mr4 ,reding1 ,i beseech you1 cried ,kitchens1 still retreating1 while ,charles still pressed on him2 take it away1 it's too much4 ,oh1 oh6 ,spare me1 spare me1 ,mr4 ,reding6--nehushtan--an idol6--oh1 you young antichrist1 you devil6--'tis ,he1 'tis ,he--torment6--spare me1 ,mr4 ,reding4 ,and the miserable man began to dance about1 still eyeing the sacred sign1 and motioning it from him4 ,charles now had victory in his hands3 there was1 indeed1 some difficulty in steering ,kitchens to the door from the place where he had been sitting1 but1 that once effected1 he opened it with violence1 and1 throwing himself on the staircase1 he began to jump down two or three steps at a time1 with such forgetfulness of everything but his own terror1 that he came plump upon two persons who1 in rivalry of each other1 were in the act of rushing up3 and1 while he drove one against the rail1 he fairly rolled the other to the bottom4 ,,chapter ,,ix4 ,charles threw himself on his chair1 burying the ,crucifix in his bosom1 quite worn out with his long trial and the sudden exertion in which it had just now been issuing4 ,when a noise was heard at his door1 and knocks succeeded1 he took no farther notice than to plant his feet on the fender and bury his face in his hands4 ,the summons at first was apparently from one person only1 but his delay in answering it gave time for the arrival of another2 and there was a brisk succession of alternate knocks from the two1 which ,charles let take its course4 ,at length one of the rival candidates for admission1 bolder than the other1 slowly opened the door2 when the other1 who had impetuously scrambled upstairs after his fall1 rushed in before him1 crying out1 ,one word for the ,new ,jerusalem6 ,in charity1 said ,reding1 without changing his attitude1 in charity1 leave me alone4 ,you mean it well1 but ,i don't want you1 sir2 ,i don't indeed4 ,i've had ,old ,jerusalem here already1 and ,jewish ,apostles1 and ,gentile ,apostles1 and free inquiry1 and fancy religion1 and ,exeter ,hall4 ,what have ,i done8 why can't ,i die out in peace8 ,my dear sir1 do go6 ,i can't see you2 ,i'm worn out4 ,and he rose up and advanced towards him4 ,call again1 dear sir1 if you are bent on talking with me2 but1 excuse me1 ,i really have had enough of it for one day4 ,no fault of yours1 my dear sir1 that you have come the sixth or seventh4 ,and he opened the door for him4 ,a madman nearly threw me down as ,i was coming up1 said the person addressed1 in some agitation4 ,ten thousand pardons for his rudeness1 my dear sir--ten thousand pardons1 but allow me2 and he bowed him out of the room4 ,he then turned round to the other stranger1 who had stood by in silence3 ,and you too1 sir 444 is it possible6 ,his countenance changed to extreme surprise2 it was ,mr4 ,malcolm4 ,charles's thoughts flowed in a new current1 and his tormentors were suddenly forgotten4 ,the history of ,mr4 ,malcolm's calling was simple4 ,he had always been a collector of old books1 and had often taken advantage of the stores of ,charles's landlord in adding to his library4 ,passing through ,london to the ,eastern ,counties ,rail1 he happened to call in2 and1 as his friend the bookseller was not behind his own reading-room in the diffusion of gossip1 he learned that ,mr4 ,reding1 who was on the point of seceding from the ,establishment1 was at that moment above stairs4 ,he waited with impatience through ,dr4 ,kitchens' visit1 and even then found himself1 to his no small annoyance1 in danger of being outstripped by the good ,swedenborgian4 ,how d'ye do1 ,charles8 he said1 at length1 with not a little stiffness in his manner1 while ,charles had no less awkwardness in receiving him2 you have been holding a levee this morning2 ,i thought ,i should never get to see you4 ,sit you down2 let us both sit down1 and let me at last have a word or two with you4 ,in spite of the diversified trial ,charles had sustained from strangers that morning1 there was no one perhaps whom he would have less desired to see than ,mr4 ,malcolm4 ,he could not help associating him with his father1 yet he felt no opening of heart towards him1 nor respect for his judgment4 ,his feeling was a mixture of prescriptive fear and friendliness1 attachment from old associations1 and desire of standing well with him1 but neither confidence nor real love4 ,he coloured up and felt guilty1 yet without a clear understanding why4 ,well1 ,charles ,reding1 he said1 ,i think we know each other well enough for you to have given me a hint of what was going on as regards you4 ,charles said he had written to him only the evening before4 ,ah1 when there was not time to answer your letter1 said ,mr4 ,malcolm4 ,charles said he wished to spare so kind a friend 444 he bungled1 and could not finish his sentence4 ,a friend1 who1 of course1 could give no advice1 said ,mr4 ,malcolm drily4 ,presently he said1 ,were those people some of your new friends who were calling on you8 they have kept me in the shop this three-quarters of an hour2 and the fellow who has just come down nearly threw me over the baluster4 ,oh no1 sir1 ,i know nothing of them2 they were the most unwelcome of intruders4 ,as some one else seems to be1 said ,mr4 ,malcolm4 ,charles was very much hurt2 the more so1 because he had nothing to say2 he kept silence4 ,well1 ,charles1 said ,mr4 ,malcolm1 not looking at him1 ,i have known you from this high2 more1 from a child in arms4 ,a frank1 open boy you were2 ,i don't know what has spoiled you4 ,these ,jesuits1 perhaps4444 ,it was not so in your father's lifetime4 ,my dear sir1 said ,charles1 it pierces me to the heart to hear you talk so4 ,you have indeed always been most kind to me4 ,if ,i have erred1 it has been an error of judgment2 and ,i am very sorry for it1 and hope you will forgive it4 ,i acted for the best2 but ,i have been1 as you must feel1 in a most trying situation4 ,my mother has known what ,i was contemplating this year past4 ,trying situation6 fudge6 ,what have you to do with situations8 ,i could have told you a great deal about these ,catholics2 ,i know all about them4 ,error of judgment6 don't tell me4 ,i know how these things happen quite well4 ,i have seen such things before2 only ,i thought you a more sensible fellow4 ,there was young ,dalton of ,st4 ,cross2 he goes abroad1 and falls in with a smooth priest1 who persuades the silly fellow that the ,catholic ,church is the ancient and true ,church of ,england1 the only religion for a gentleman2 he is introduced to a ,count this1 and a ,marchioness that1 and returns a ,catholic4 ,there was another2 what was his name8 ,i forget it1 of a ,berkshire family4 ,he is smitten with a pretty face2 nothing will serve but he must marry her2 but she's a ,catholic1 and can't marry a heretic2 so he1 forsooth1 gives up the favour of his uncle and his prospects in the county1 for his fair ,juliet4 ,there was another1--but it's useless going on4 ,and1 now ,i wonder what has taken you4 ,all this was the best justification for ,charles's not having spoken to ,mr4 ,malcolm on the subject4 ,that gentleman had had his own experience of thirty or forty years1 and1 like some great philosophers1 he made that personal experience of his the decisive test of the possible and the true4 ,i know them1 he continued--,i know them2 a set of hypocrites and sharpers4 ,i could tell you such stories of what ,i fell in with abroad4 ,those priests are not to be trusted4 ,did you ever know a priest8 ,no1 answered ,charles4 ,did you ever see a ,popish chapel8 ,no4 ,do you know anything of ,catholic books1 ,catholic doctrine1 ,catholic morality8 ,i warrant it1 not much4 ,charles looked very uncomfortable4 ,then what makes you go to them8 ,charles did not know what to say4 ,silly boy1 he went on1 you have not a word to say for yourself2 it's all idle fancy4 ,you are going as a bird to the fowler4 ,reding began to rouse himself2 he felt he ought to say something2 he felt that silence would tell against him4 ,dear sir1 he answered1 there's nothing but may be turned against one if a person is so minded4 ,now1 do think2 had ,i known this or that priest1 you would have said at once1 ',ah1 he came over you4' ,if ,i had been familiar with ,catholic chapels1 ',i was allured by the singing or the incense4' ,what can ,i have done better than keep myself to myself1 go by my best reason1 consult the friends whom ,i happened to find around me1 as ,i have done1 and wait in patience till ,i was sure of my convictions8 ,ah1 that's the way with you youngsters1 said ,mr4 ,malcolm2 you all think you are so right2 you do think so admirably that older heads are worth nothing to the like of you4 ,well1 he went on1 putting on his gloves1 ,i see ,i am not in the way to persuade you4 ,poor dear ,charlie1 ,i grieve for you2 what would your poor father have said1 had he lived to see it8 ,poor ,reding1 he has been spared this4 ,but perhaps it would not have happened4 ,i know what the upshot will be2 you will come back--come back you will1 to a dead certainty4 ,we shall see you back1 foolish boy1 after you have had your gallop over your ploughed field4 ,well1 well2 better than running wild4 ,you must have your hobby2 it might have been a worse2 you might have run through your money4 ,but perhaps you'll be giving it away1 as it is1 to some artful priest4 ,it's grievous1 grievous2 your education thrown away1 your prospects ruined1 your poor mother and sisters left to take care of themselves4 ,and you don't say a word to me4 ,and he began musing4 ,a troublesome world3 good-bye1 ,charles2 you are high and mighty now1 and are in full sail3 you may come to your father's friend some day in a different temper4 ,good-bye4 ,there was no help for it2 ,charles's heart was full1 but his head was wearied and confused1 and his spirit sank2 for all these reasons he had not a word to say1 and seemed to ,mr4 ,malcolm either stupid or close4 ,he could but wring warmly ,mr4 ,malcolm's reluctant hand1 and accompany him down to the street-door4 ,,chapter ,x4 ,this will never do1 said ,charles1 as he closed the door1 and ran upstairs2 here is a day wasted1 worse than wasted1 wasted partly on strangers1 partly on friends2 and it's hard to say in which case a more thorough waste4 ,i ought to have gone to the ,convent at once4 ,the thought flashed into his mind1 and he stood over the fire dwelling on it4 ,yes1 he said1 ,i will delay no longer4 ,how does time go8 ,i declare it's past four o'clock4 ,he then thought again3 ,i'll get over my dinner1 and then at once betake myself to my good ,passionists4 ,to the coffee-house then he went1 and1 as it was some way off1 it is not wonderful that it was near six before he arrived at the ,convent4 ,it was a plain brick building2 money had not been so abundant as to overflow upon the exterior1 after the expense of the interior had been provided for4 ,and it was incomplete2 a large church had been enclosed1 but it was scarcely more than a shell1--altars1 indeed1 had been set up1 but1 for the rest1 it had little more than good proportions1 a broad sanctuary1 a serviceable organ1 and an effective choir4 ,there was a range of buildings adjacent1 capable of holding about half-a-dozen fathers2 but the size of the church required a larger establishment4 ,by this time1 doubtless1 things are different1 but we are looking back at the first efforts of the ,english ,congregation1 when it had scarcely ceased to struggle for life1 and when friends and members were but beginning to flow in4 ,it was indeed but ten years1 at that time1 since the severest of modern rules had been introduced into ,england4 ,two centuries after the memorable era when ,st4 ,philip and ,st4 ,ignatius1 making light of those bodily austerities of which they were personally so great masters1 preached mortification of will and reason as more necessary for a civilized age1--in the lukewarm and self-indulgent eighteenth century1 ,father ,paul of the ,cross was divinely moved to found a ,congregation in some respects more ascetic than the primitive hermits and the orders of the middle age4 ,it was not fast1 or silence1 or poverty which distinguished it1 though here too it is not wanting in strictness2 but in the cell of its venerable founder1 on the ,celian ,hill1 hangs an iron discipline or scourge1 studded with nails1 which is a memorial1 not only of his own self-inflicted sufferings1 but of those of his ,italian family4 ,the object of those sufferings was as remarkable as their intensity2 penance1 indeed1 is in one respect the end of all self-chastisement1 but in the instance of the ,passionists the use of the scourge was specially directed to the benefit of their neighbour4 ,they applied the pain to the benefit of the holy souls in ,purgatory1 or they underwent it to rouse a careless audience4 ,on their missions1 when their words seemed uttered in vain1 they have been known suddenly to undo their habit1 and to scourge themselves with sharp knives or razors1 crying out to the horrified people1 that they would not show mercy to their flesh till they whom they were addressing took pity on their own perishing souls4 ,nor was it to their own countrymen alone that this self-consuming charity extended2 how it so happened does not appear2 perhaps a certain memento close to their house was the earthly cause2 but so it was1 that for many years the heart of ,father ,paul was expanded towards a northern nation1 with which1 humanly speaking1 he had nothing to do4 ,over against ,st4 ,john and ,st4 ,paul1 the home of the ,passionists on the ,celian1 rises the old church and monastery of ,san ,gregorio1 the womb1 as it may be called1 of ,english ,christianity4 ,there had lived that great ,saint1 who is named our ,apostle1 who was afterwards called to the chair of ,st4 ,peter2 and thence went forth1 in and after his pontificate1 ,augustine1 ,paulinus1 ,justus1 and the other ,saints by whom our barbarous ancestors were converted4 ,their names1 which are now written up upon the pillars of the portico1 would almost seem to have issued forth1 and crossed over1 and confronted the venerable ,paul2 for1 strange to say1 the thought of ,england came into his ordinary prayers2 and in his last years1 after a vision during ,mass1 as if he had been ,augustine or ,mellitus1 he talked of his sons in ,england4 ,it was strange enough that even one ,italian in the heart of ,rome should at that time have ambitious thoughts of making novices or converts in this country2 but1 after the venerable ,founder's death1 his special interest in our distant isle showed itself in another member of his institute4 ,on the ,apennines1 near ,viterbo1 there dwelt a shepherd-boy1 in the first years of this century1 whose mind had early been drawn heavenward2 and1 one day1 as he prayed before an image of the ,madonna1 he felt a vivid intimation that he was destined to preach the ,gospel under the northern sky4 ,there appeared no means by which a ,roman peasant should be turned into a missionary2 nor did the prospect open1 when this youth found himself1 first a lay-brother1 then a ,father1 in the ,congregation of the ,passion4 ,yet1 though no external means appeared1 the inward impression did not fade2 on the contrary1 it became more definite1 and1 in process of time1 instead of the dim north1 ,england was engraven on his heart4 ,and1 strange to say1 as years went on1 without his seeking1 for he was simply under obedience1 our peasant found himself at length upon the very shore of the stormy northern sea1 whence ,csar of old looked out for a new world to conquer2 yet that he should cross the strait was still as little likely as before4 ,however1 it was as likely as that he should ever have got so near it2 and he used to eye the restless1 godless waves1 and wonder with himself whether the day would ever come when he should be carried over them4 ,and come it did1 not however by any determination of his own1 but by the same ,providence which thirty years before had given him the anticipation of it4 ,at the time of our narrative1 ,father ,domenico de ,matre ,dei had become familiar with ,england2 he had had many anxieties here1 first from want of funds1 then still more from want of men4 ,year passed after year1 and1 whether fear of the severity of the rule--though that was groundless1 for it had been mitigated for ,england--or the claim of other religious bodies was the cause1 his community did not increase1 and he was tempted to despond4 ,but every work has its season2 and now for some time past that difficulty had been gradually lessening2 various zealous men1 some of noble birth1 others of extensive acquirements1 had entered the ,congregation2 and our friend ,willis1 who at this time had received the priesthood1 was not the last of these accessions1 though domiciled at a distance from ,london4 ,and now the reader knows much more about the ,passionists than did ,reding at the time that he made his way to their monastery4 ,the church door came first1 and1 as it was open1 he entered it4 ,it apparently was filling for service4 ,when he got inside1 the person who immediately preceded him dipped his finger into a vessel of water which stood at the entrance1 and offered it to ,charles4 ,charles1 ignorant what it meant1 and awkward from his consciousness of it1 did nothing but slink aside1 and look for some place of refuge2 but the whole space was open1 and there seemed no corner to retreat into4 ,every one1 however1 seemed about his own business2 no one minded him1 and so far he felt at his ease4 ,he stood near the door1 and began to look about him4 ,a profusion of candles was lighting at the ,high ,altar1 which stood in the centre of a semicircular apse4 ,there were side-altars--perhaps half-a-dozen2 most of them without lights1 but1 even here1 solitary worshippers might be seen4 ,over one was a large old ,crucifix with a lamp1 and this had a succession of visitors4 ,they came each for five minutes1 said some prayers which were attached in a glazed frame to the rail1 and passed away4 ,at another1 which was in a chapel at the farther end of one of the aisles1 six long candles were burning1 and over it was an image4 ,on looking attentively1 ,charles made out at last that it was an image of ,our ,lady1 and the ,child held out a rosary4 ,here a congregation had already assembled1 or rather was in the middle of some service1 to him unknown4 ,it was rapid1 alternate1 and monotonous2 and1 as it seemed interminable1 ,reding turned his eyes elsewhere4 ,they fell first on one1 then on another confessional1 round each of which was a little crowd1 kneeling1 waiting every one his own turn for presenting himself for the sacrament--the men on the one side1 the women on the other4 ,at the lower end of the church were about three ranges of moveable benches with backs and kneelers2 the rest of the large space was open1 and filled with chairs4 ,the growing object of attention at present was the ,high ,altar2 and each person1 as he entered1 took a chair1 and1 kneeling down behind it1 began his prayers4 ,at length the church got very full2 rich and poor were mixed together--artisans1 well-dressed youths1 ,irish labourers1 mothers with two or three children--the only division being that of men from women4 ,a set of boys and children1 mixed with some old crones1 had got possession of the altar-rail1 and were hugging it with restless motions1 as if in expectation4 ,though ,reding had continued standing1 no one would have noticed him2 but he saw the time was come for him to kneel1 and accordingly he moved into a corner seat on the bench nearest him4 ,he had hardly done so1 when a procession with lights passed from the sacristy to the altar2 something went on which he did not understand1 and then suddenly began what1 by the ,miserere and ,ora pro nobis1 he perceived to be a litany2 a hymn followed4 ,reding thought he never had been present at worship before1 so absorbed was the attention1 so intense was the devotion of the congregation4 ,what particularly struck him was1 that whereas in the ,church of ,england the clergyman or the organ was everything and the people nothing1 except so far as the clerk is their representative1 here it was just reversed4 ,the priest hardly spoke1 or at least audibly2 but the whole congregation was as though one vast instrument or ,panharmonicon1 moving all together1 and1 what was most remarkable1 as if self-moved4 ,they did not seem to require any one to prompt or direct them1 though in the ,litany the choir took the alternate parts4 ,the words were ,latin1 but every one seemed to understand them thoroughly1 and to be offering up his prayers to the ,blessed ,trinity1 and the ,incarnate ,saviour1 and the great ,mother of ,god1 and the glorified ,saints1 with hearts full in proportion to the energy of the sounds they uttered4 ,there was a little boy near him1 and a poor woman1 singing at the pitch of their voices4 ,there was no mistaking it2 ,reding said to himself1 ,this is a popular religion4 ,he looked round at the building2 it was1 as we have said1 very plain1 and bore the marks of being unfinished2 but the ,living ,temple which was manifested in it needed no curious carving or rich marble to complete it1 for the glory of ,god had enlightened it1 and the ,lamb was the lamp thereof4 ,how wonderful1 said ,charles to himself1 that people call this worship formal and external2 it seems to possess all classes1 young and old1 polished and vulgar1 men and women indiscriminately2 it is the working of one ,spirit in all1 making many one4 ,while he was thus thinking1 a change came over the worship4 ,a priest1 or at least an assistant1 had mounted for a moment above the altar1 and removed a chalice or vessel which stood there2 he could not see distinctly4 ,a cloud of incense was rising on high2 the people suddenly all bowed low2 what could it mean8 the truth flashed on him1 fearfully yet sweetly2 it was the ,blessed ,sacrament--it was the ,lord ,incarnate who was on the altar1 who had come to visit and to bless ,his people4 ,it was the ,great ,presence1 which makes a ,catholic ,church different from every other place in the world2 which makes it1 as no other place can be1 holy4 ,the ,breviary offices were by this time not unknown to ,reding2 and as he threw himself on the pavement1 in sudden self-abasement and joy1 some words of those great ,antiphons came into his mouth1 from which ,willis had formerly quoted3 ,o ,adonai1 et ,dux doms ,israel1 qui ,moysi in rubo apparuisti2 ,o ,emmanuel1 ,exspectatio ,gentium et ,salvator earum1 veni ad salvandum nos1 ,domine ,deus noster4 ,the function did not last very long after this2 ,reding1 on looking up1 found the congregation rapidly diminishing1 and the lights in course of extinction4 ,he saw he must be quick in his motions4 ,he made his way to a lay-brother who was waiting till the doors could be closed1 and begged to be conducted to the ,superior4 ,the lay-brother feared he might be busy at the moment1 but conducted him through the sacristy to a small neat room1 where1 being left to himself1 he had time to collect his thoughts4 ,at length the ,superior appeared2 he was a man past the middle age1 and had a grave yet familiar manner4 ,charles's feelings were indescribable1 but all pleasurable4 ,his heart beat1 not with fear or anxiety1 but with the thrill of delight with which he realized that he was beneath the shadow of a ,catholic community1 and face to face with one of its priests4 ,his trouble went in a moment1 and he could have laughed for joy4 ,he could hardly keep his countenance1 and almost feared to be taken for a fool4 ,he presented the card of his railroad companion4 ,the good ,father smiled when he saw the name1 nor did the few words which were written with pencil on the card diminish his satisfaction4 ,charles and he soon came to an understanding2 he found himself already known in the community by means of ,willis2 and it was arranged that he should take up his lodging with his new friends forthwith1 and remain there as long as it suited him4 ,he was to prepare for confession at once2 and it was hoped that on the following ,sunday he might be received into ,catholic communion4 ,after that1 he was1 at a convenient interval1 to present himself to the ,bishop1 from whom he would seek the sacrament of confirmation4 ,not much time was necessary for removing his luggage from his lodgings2 and in the course of an hour from the time of his interview with the ,father ,superior1 he was sitting by himself1 with pen and paper and his books1 and with a cheerful fire1 in a small cell of his new home4 ,,chapter ,,xi4 ,a very few words will conduct us to the end of our history4 ,it was ,sunday morning about seven o'clock1 and ,charles had been admitted into the communion of the ,catholic ,church about an hour since4 ,he was still kneeling in the church of the ,passionists before the ,tabernacle1 in the possession of a deep peace and serenity of mind1 which he had not thought possible on earth4 ,it was more like the stillness which almost sensibly affects the ears when a bell that has long been tolling stops1 or when a vessel1 after much tossing at sea1 finds itself in harbour4 ,it was such as to throw him back in memory on his earliest years1 as if he were really beginning life again4 ,but there was more than the happiness of childhood in his heart2 he seemed to feel a rock under his feet2 it was the soliditas ,cathedr ,petri4 ,he went on kneeling1 as if he were already in heaven1 with the throne of ,god before him1 and angels around2 and as if to move were to lose his privilege4 ,at length he felt a light hand on his shoulder1 and a voice said1 ,reding1 ,i am going2 let me just say farewell to you before ,i go4 ,he looked around2 it was ,willis1 or rather ,father ,aloysius1 in his dark ,passionist habit1 with the white heart sewed in at his left breast4 ,willis carried him from the church into the sacristy4 ,what a joy1 ,reding6 he whispered1 when the door closed upon them2 what a day of joy6 ,st4 ,edward's day1 a doubly blessed day henceforth4 ,my ,superior let me be present2 but now ,i must go4 ,you did not see me1 but ,i was present through the whole4 ,oh1 said ,charles1 what shall ,i say8--the face of ,god6 ,as ,i knelt ,i seemed to wish to say this1 and this only1 with the ,patriarch1 ',now let me die1 since ,i have seen ,thy ,face4' ,you1 dear ,reding1 said ,father ,aloysius1 have keen fresh feelings2 mine are blunted by familiarity4 ,no1 ,willis1 he made answer1 you have taken the better part betimes1 while ,i have loitered4 ,too late have ,i known ,thee1 ,o ,thou ancient ,truth2 too late have ,i found ,thee1 ,first and only ,fair4 ,all is well1 except as sin makes it ill1 said ,father ,aloysius2 if you have to lament loss of time before conversion1 ,i have to lament it after4 ,if you speak of delay1 must not ,i of rashness8 ,a good ,god overrules all things4 ,but ,i must away4 ,do you recollect my last words when we parted in ,devonshire8 ,i have thought of them often since2 they were too true then4 ,i said1 ',our ways divide4' ,they are different still1 yet they are the same4 ,whether we shall meet again here below1 who knows8 but there will be a meeting ere long before the ,throne of ,god1 and under the shadow of ,his ,blessed ,mother and all ,saints4 ',deus manifeste veniet1 ,deus noster1 et non silebit4' ,reding took ,father ,aloysius's hand and kissed it2 as he sank on his knees the young priest made the sign of blessing over him4 ,then he vanished through the door of the sacristy2 and the new convert sought his temporary cell1 so happy in the ,present1 that he had no thoughts either for the ,past or the ,future4 ,,the ,,end4 ,,printed ,,by ,,ballantyne1 ,,hanson ,,and ,,co4 ,,edinburgh ,,and ,,london ,,cardinal ,,newman',s ,,works4 #a4 ,,sermons4 #a-h4 ,,parochial ,,and ,,plain ,,sermons4 7,rivingtons47 #i4 ,,sermons ,,on ,,subjects ,,of ,,the ,,day4 7,rivingtons47 #aj4 ,,university ,,sermons4 7,rivingtons47 #aa4 ,,sermons ,,to ,,mixed ,,congregations4 7,burns ,oates47 #ab4 ,,occasional ,,sermons4 7,burns ,oates47 #b4 ,,treatises4 #ac4 ,,on ,,the ,,doctrine ,,of ,,justification4 7,rivingtons47 #ad4 ,,on ,,the ,,development ,,of ,,christian ,,doctrine4 7,pickering47 #ae4 ,,on ,,the ,,idea ,,of ,a ,,university4 7,pickering47 #af4 ,,on ,,the ,,doctrine ,,of ,,assent4 7,burns ,oates47 #c4 ,,essays4 #ag4 ,,two ,,essays ,,on ,,miracles4 #a4 ,of ,scripture4 #b4 ,of ,ecclesiastical ,history4 7,pickering47 #ah4 ,,discussions ,,and ,,arguments4 #a4 ,how to accomplish it4 #b4 ,the ,antichrist of the ,fathers4 #c4 ,scripture and the ,creed4 #d4 ,tamworth ,reading-,room4 #e4 ,who's to blame8 #f4 ,an ,argument for ,christianity4 7,pickering47 #ai1 #bj4 ,,essays1 ,,critical ,,and ,,historical4 ,,two ,,volumes1 ,,with ,,notes4 #a4 ,poetry4 #b4 ,rationalism4 #c4 ,apostolical ,tradition4 #d4 ,de la ,mennais4 #e4 ,palmer on ,faith and ,unity4 #f4 ,st4 ,ignatius4 #g4 ,prospects of the ,anglican ,church4 #h4 ,the ,anglo-,american ,church4 #i4 ,countess of ,huntingdon4 #aj4 ,catholicity of the ,anglican ,church4 #aa4 ,the ,antichrist of ,protestants4 #ab4 ,milman's ,christianity4 #ac4 ,reformation of the ,eleventh ,century4 #ad4 ,private ,judgment4 #ae4 ,davison4 #af4 ,keble4 7,pickering47 #d4 ,,historical4 #ba-bc4 ,,three ,,volumes4 #a4 ,the ,turks4 #b4 ,cicero4 #c4 ,apollonius4 #d4 ,primitive ,christianity4 #e4 ,church of the ,fathers4 #f4 ,st4 ,chrysostom4 #g4 ,theodoret4 #h4 ,st4 ,benedict4 #i4 ,benedictine ,schools4 #aj4 ,universities4 #aa4 ,northmen and ,normans4 #ab4 ,medieval ,oxford4 #ac4 ,convocation of ,canterbury4 7,pickering47 #e4 ,,theological4 #bd4 ,,the ,,arians ,,of ,,the ,,fourth ,,century4 7,pickering47 #be1 #bf4 ,,annotated ,,translation ,,of ,,athanasius4 ,,two ,,volumes4 7,pickering47 #bg4 ,,tracts4 #a4 ,dissertatiuncul4 #b4 ,on the ,text of the ,seven ,epistles of ,st4 ,ignatius4 #c4 ,doctrinal ,causes of ,arianism4 #d4 ,apollinarianism4 #e4 ,st4 ,cyril's ,formula4 #f4 ,ordo de ,tempore4 #g4 ,douay ,version of ,scripture4 7,pickering47 #f4 ,,polemical4 #bh1 #bi4 ,,via ,,media4 ,,two ,,volumes1 ,,with ,,notes4 #ast ,vol4 ,prophetical ,office of the ,church4 #b;d ,vol4 ,occasional ,letters and ,tracts4 7,pickering47 #cj1 #ca4 ,,difficulties ,,of ,,anglicans4 ,,two ,,volumes4 #ast ,vol4 ,twelve ,lectures4 #b;d ,vol4 ,letters to ,dr4 ,pusey concerning the ,bl4 ,virgin1 and to the ,duke of ,norfolk in ,defence of the ,pope and ,council4 7,burns ,oates1 and ,pickering47 #cb4 ,,present ,,position ,,of ,,catholics ,,in ,,england4 7,burns ,oates47 #cc4 ,,apologia ,,pro ,,vit ,,su4 7,longmans47 #g4 ,,literary4 #cd4 ,,verses ,,on ,,various ,,occasions4 7,burns ,oates47 #ce4 ,,loss ,,and ,,gain4 7,burns ,oates1 and ,pickering47 #cf4 ,,callista4 7,burns ,oates47 ,it is scarcely necessary to say that the ,author submits all that he has written to the judgment of the ,church1 whose gift and prerogative it is to determine what is true and what is false in religious teaching4