,transcribed from the #ahhh ,cassell and ,company edition by ,david ,price1 email ccx#jgd;coventry4ac4uk ,,the ,,apology ,,of ,,the ,,church ,,of ,,england4 ,,by ,,john ,,jewel1 ,bishop of ,salisbury4 ,,cassell ,,company1 ,,limited3 ,,london1 ,,paris1 ,,new ,,york ,,melbourne4 #ahhh4 ,,introduction4 ,the great interest of ,jewel's ,apology lies in the fact that it was written in ,latin to be read throughout ,europe as the answer of the ,reformed ,church of ,england1 at the beginning of ,queen ,elizabeth's reign1 to those who said that the ,reformation set up a new ,church4 ,its argument was that the ,english ,church ,reformers were going back to the old ,church1 not setting up a new2 and this ,jewel proposed to show by looking back to the first centuries of ,christianity4 ,innovation was imputed2 and an ,apology originally meant a pleading to rebut an imputation4 ,so1 even as late as #agif1 there was a book called ,an ,apology for the ,bible1 meaning its defence against those who questioned its authority4 ,this ,latin book of ,jewel's1 ,apologia ,ecclesiae ,anglicanae--written in ,latin because it was not addressed to ,england only--was first published in #aefb1 and translated into ,english by the mother of ,francis ,bacon1 whose edition appeared in #aefd4 ,that is the translation given in this volume4 ,the book has since had six or seven other translators1 but ,lady ,ann ,bacon's translation was that which presented it in ,queen ,elizabeth's time to ,english readers1 and it had the advantage of revision by the ,queen's ,archbishop of ,canterbury1 her coadjutor in the establishment of the ,reformed ,church of ,england1 ,matthew ,parker4 ,it was published1 with no name of author or translator on the title-page1 as ,an ,apologie or answere in defence of the ,churche of ,englande1 with a briefe and plaine declaration of the true ,religion professed or used in the same4 ,the book was prefaced by a letter1 ,to the right honorable learned and vertuous ,ladie1 ,a4 ,b4 ,ann ,bacon ,m4 ,c4 wisheth from ,god grace1 honoure1 and felicitie1 where ,m4 ,c4 signifies ,matthew ,cantuar1 ,matthew ,parker1 ,archbishop of ,canterbury1 whom ,lady ,ann ,bacon had made her judge1 and whose judgment1 the letter says1 her book had singularly pleased4 ,lady ,ann ,bacon was the second daughter of ,sir ,anthony ,cooke1 who was tutor to ,king ,edward ,,vi4 ,sir ,anthony gave to his five daughters a most liberal education4 ,his eldest daughter1 ,mildred1 married ,sir ,william ,cecil1 afterwards ,lord ,burleigh1 while ,ann became the second wife of the ,lord ,keeper1 ,sir ,nicholas ,bacon4 ,their father had made ,mildred and ,ann two of the most learned women in ,england4 ,john ,jewel was forty years old when he wrote the ,apology4 ,he was born in ,devonshire in #aebb1 on the #bdth of ,may1 at the village of ,buden1 near ,ilfracombe4 ,he studied at ,oxford1 where he became tutor and preacher1 graduated as ,b4,d4 in #aeea1 and was presented to the rectory of ,sunningwell4 ,at the accession of ,queen ,mary he bowed to the royal authority1 but he was a warm friend and disciple of ,peter ,martyr1 who had come to ,england in #aedg1 at the invitation of ,edward ,,vi41 to take the chair of ,divinity at ,oxford4 ,on the accession of ,queen ,mary1 ,peter ,martyr 7who was born at ,florence in #aejj1 and whose family name was ,vermigli7 returned to ,strasburg1 and went thence to ,zurich1 where he died in #aefb4 ,jewel1 repenting of his assent to the new sovereign's authority in matters of religion1 followed his friend ,peter ,martyr across the water1 and became vice-master of a college at ,strasburg4 ,upon the accession of ,elizabeth1 in #aehh1 ,jewel came back1 and he was one of the sixteen ,protestants appointed by the ,queen to dispute before her with a like number of ,catholics4 ,in #aeei ,john ,jewel was appointed a commissioner for securing1 in the ,west of ,england1 conformity with the newly-arranged ,church service1 and he had to see that the ,queen's orders were obeyed in the churches of his native county4 ,before the end of the same year he was consecrated ,bishop of ,salisbury4 ,he was most zealous in performance of all duties of his charge4 ,to his good offices young ,richard ,hooker owed his opportunity of training for the service of the ,church4 ,among ,jewel's writings1 this ,apology or ,defence of the ,church of ,england was the most important2 but he worked incessantly1 and shortened his life by limiting himself to four hours of sleep1 taken between midnight and four in the morning4 ,bishop ,jewel died on the #bast of ,september1 #aega1 before he had reached the age of fifty4 ,h4 ,m4 ,,an ,,apology1 ,,or ,,answer1 ,,in ,,defence ,,of ,,the ,,church ,,of ,,england1 ,with a ,brief and ,plain ,declaration of the ,true ,religion ,professed and ,used in the ,same4 ,,part ,i4 ,it hath been an old complaint1 even from the first time of the patriarchs and ,prophets1 and confirmed by the writings and testimonies of every age1 that the truth wandereth here and there as a stranger in the world1 and doth readily find enemies and slanderers amongst those that know her not4 ,albeit perchance this may seem unto some a thing hard to be believed1 ,i mean to such as have scant well and narrowly taken heed thereunto1 specially seeing all mankind of nature's very motion without a teacher doth covet the truth of their own accord2 and seeing our ,saviour ,christ ,himself1 when ,he was on earth1 would be called the ,truth1 as by a name most fit to express all ,his ,divine power2 yet we1 which have been exercised in the ,holy ,scriptures1 and which have both read and seen what hath happened to all godly men commonly at all times2 what to the ,prophets1 to the ,apostles1 to the holy martyrs1 and what to ,christ ,himself2 with what rebukes1 revilings1 and despites they were continually vexed whiles they here lived1 and that only for the truth's sake3 we1 ,i say1 do see that this is not only no new thing1 or hard to be believed1 but that it is a thing already received1 and commonly used from age to age4 ,nay1 truly1 this might seem much rather a marvel1 and beyond all belief1 if the devil1 who is the father of lies1 and enemy to all truth1 would now upon a sudden change his nature1 and hope that truth might otherwise be suppressed than by belying it2 or that he would begin to establish his own kingdom by using now any other practices than the same which he hath ever used from the beginning4 ,for since any man's remembrance we can scant find one time1 either when religion did first grow1 or when it was settled1 or when it did afresh spring up again1 wherein truth and innocency were not by all unworthy means1 and most despitefully intreated4 ,doubtless the devil well seeth1 that so long as truth is in good safety1 himself cannot be safe1 nor yet maintain his own estate4 ,for1 letting pass the ancient patriarchs and ,prophets1 who1 as we have said1 had no part of their life free from contumelies and slanders1 we know there were certain in times past which said and commonly preached1 that the old ancient ,jews 7of whom we make no doubt but they were the worshippers of the only and true ,god7 did worship either a sow1 or an ass1 in ,god's stead1 and that all the same religion was nothing else but a sacrilege1 and a plain contempt of all godliness4 ,we know also that the ,son of ,god1 our ,saviour ,jesu ,christ1 when ,he taught the truth1 was counted a juggler and an enchanter1 a ,samaritan1 ,beelzebub1 a deceiver of the people1 a drunkard1 and a glutton4 ,again1 who wotteth not what words were spoken against ,st4 ,paul1 the most earnest and vehement preacher and maintainer of the truth8 sometime that he was a seditious and busy man1 a raiser of tumults1 a causer of rebellion2 sometime again1 that he was an heretic2 sometime1 that he was mad2 sometime1 that only upon strife and stomach he was both a blasphemer of ,god's law1 and a despiser of the fathers' ordinances4 ,further1 who knoweth not how ,st4 ,stephen1 after he had thoroughly and sincerely embraced the truth1 and began frankly and stoutly to preach and set forth the same1 as he ought to do1 was immediately called to answer for his life1 as one that had wickedly uttered disdainful and heinous words against the law1 against ,moses1 against the temple1 and against ,god8 ,or who is ignorant that in times past there were some which reproved the ,holy ,scripts of falsehood1 saying they contained things both contrary and quite one against other2 and how that the ,apostles of ,christ did severally disagree between themselves1 and that ,st4 ,paul did vary from them all8 ,and1 not to make rehearsal of all1 for that were an endless labour1 who knoweth not after what sort our fathers were railed upon in times past1 which first began to acknowledge and profess the ,name of ,christ8 how they made private conspiracies1 devised secret counsels against the commonwealth1 and that end made early and privy meetings in the dark1 killed young babes1 fed themselves with men's flesh1 and1 like savage and brute beasts1 did drink their blood8 in conclusion1 how that1 after they had put out the candles1 they committed adultery between themselves1 and without regard wrought incest one with another3 that brethren lay with their sisters1 sons with their mothers1 without any reverence of nature or kin1 without shame without difference2 and that they were wicked men without all care of religion1 and without any opinion of ,god1 being the very enemies of mankind1 unworthy to be suffered in the world1 and unworthy of life8 ,all these things were spoken in those days against the people of ,god1 against ,christ ,jesu1 against ,paul1 against ,stephen1 and against all them1 whosoever they were1 which at the first beginning embraced the truth of the ,gospel1 and were contented to be called by the name of ,christians1 which was then a hateful name among the common people4 ,and although the things which they said were not true1 yet the devil thought it should be sufficient for him1 if at the least he could bring it so to pass as they might be believed for true1 and that the ,christians might be brought into a common hatred of everybody1 and have their death and destruction sought of all sorts4 ,hereupon kings and princes1 being led then by such persuasions1 killed all the ,prophets of ,god1 letting none escape4 ,esay with a saw1 ,jeremy with stones1 ,daniel with lions1 ,amos with an iron bar1 ,paul with the sword1 and ,christ upon the cross2 and condemned all ,christians to imprisonments1 to torments1 to the pikes1 to be thrown down headlong from rocks and steep places1 to be cast to wild beasts1 and to be burnt3 and made great fires of their quick bodies1 for the only purpose to give light by night1 and for a very scorn and mocking stock2 and did count them no better than the vilest filth1 the offscourings and laughing games of the whole world4 ,thus1 as ye see1 have the authors and professors of the truth ever been intreated4 ,wherefore1 we ought to bear it the more quietly1 which have taken upon us to profess the ,gospel of ,christ1 if we for the same cause be handled after the same sort2 and if we1 as our forefathers were long ago1 be likewise at this day tormented1 and baited with railings1 with spiteful dealings1 and with lies2 and that for no desert of our own1 but only because we teach and acknowledge the truth4 ,they cry out upon us at this present everywhere1 that we are all heretics1 and have forsaken the faith1 and have with new persuasions and wicked learning utterly dissolved the concord of the ,church2 that we renew1 and1 as it were1 fetch again from hell the old and many a day condemned heresies2 that we sow abroad new sects1 and such broils as never yearst were heard of3 also that we are already divided into contrary parts and opinions1 and could yet by no means agree well among ourselves2 that we be cursed creatures1 and1 like the giants1 do war against ,god ,himself1 and live clean without any regard or worshipping of ,god2 that we despise all good deeds2 that we use no discipline of virtue1 no laws1 no customs2 that we esteem neither right1 nor order1 nor equity1 nor justice2 that we give the bridle to all naughtiness1 and provoke the people to all licentiousness and lust2 that we labour and seek to overthrow the state of monarchies and kingdoms1 and to bring all things under the rule of the rash inconstant people and unlearned multitude2 that we have seditiously fallen from the ,catholic ,church1 and by a wicked schism and division have shaken the whole world1 and troubled the common peace and universal quiet of the ,church2 and that1 as ,dathan and ,abiram conspired in times past against ,moses and ,aaron1 even so we at this day have renounced the ,bishop of ,rome without any cause reasonable2 that we set nought by the authority of the ancient fathers and councils of old time2 that we have rashly and presumptuously disannulled the old ceremonies1 which have been well allowed by our fathers and forefathers many hundred years past1 both by good customs1 and also in ages of more purity2 and that we have by our own private head1 without the authority of any sacred and general council1 brought new traditions into the ,church3 and have done all these things not for religion's sake1 but only upon a desire of contention and strife2 but that they for their part have changed no manner of thing1 but have held and kept still such a number of years to this very day all things as they were delivered from the ,apostles and well approved by the most ancient fathers4 ,and that this matter should not seem to be done but upon privy slander1 and to be tossed to and fro in a corner1 only to spite us1 there have been besides wilily procured by the ,bishop of ,rome certain persons of eloquence enough1 and not unlearned neither1 which should put their help to this cause1 now almost despaired of1 and should polish and set forth the same1 both in books1 and with long tales to the end that1 when the matter was trimly and eloquently handled1 ignorant and unskilful persons might suspect there was some great thing in it4 ,indeed they perceived that their own cause did everywhere go to wrack2 that their sleights were now espied1 and less esteemed2 and that their helps did daily fail them2 and that their matter stood altogether in great need of a cunning spokesman4 ,now as for those things which by them have been laid against us1 in part they be manifestly false1 and condemned so by their own judgments which spake them2 partly again1 though they be as false1 too1 indeed1 yet bear they a certain show and colour of truth1 so as the reader 7if he take not good heed7 may easily be tripped and brought into error by them1 specially when their fine and cunning tale is added thereunto4 ,and part of them be of such sort as we ought not to shun them as crimes or faults1 but to acknowledge and profess them as things well done1 and upon very good reason4 ,for shortly to say the truth1 these folk falsely accuse and slander all our doings2 yea the same things which they themselves cannot deny but to be rightly and orderly done2 and for malice do so misconstrue and deprave all our sayings and doings1 as though it were impossible that anything could be rightly spoken or done by us4 ,they should more plainly and sincerely have gone to work if they would have dealt truly4 ,but now they neither truly1 nor sincerely1 nor yet ,christianly1 but darkly and craftily charge and batter us with lies1 and do abuse the blindness and fondness of the people1 together with the ignorance of princes1 to cause us to be hated and the truth to be suppressed4 ,this1 lo1 ye1 is the power of darkness1 and of men which lean more to the amazed wondering of the rude multitude and to darkness than they do to truth and light2 and as ,st4 ,hierom saith1 which do openly gainsay the truth1 closing up their eyes1 and will not see for the nonce4 ,but we give thanks to the most good and mighty ,god1 that such is our cause1 whereagainst 7when they would fainest7 they were able to utter no despite1 but the same which might as well be wrested against the holy fathers1 against the ,prophets1 against the ,apostles1 against ,peter1 against ,paul1 and against ,christ ,himself4 ,now1 therefore1 if it be lawful for these folks to be eloquent and fine- tongued in speaking evil1 surely it becometh not us in our cause1 being so very good1 to be dumb in answering truly4 ,for men to be careless what is spoken by them and their own matter1 be it never so falsely and slanderously spoken 7especially when it is such that the majesty of ,god and the cause of religion may thereby be damaged71 is the part doubtless of dissolute and wretchless persons1 and of them which wickedly wink at the injuries done unto the ,name of ,god4 ,for although other wrongs1 yea oftentimes great1 may be borne and dissembled of a mild and ,christian man1 yet he that goeth smoothly away1 and dissembleth the matter when he is noted of heresy1 ,ruffinus was wont to deny that man to be a ,christian4 ,we therefore will do the same thing1 which all laws1 which nature's own voice doth command to be done1 and which ,christ ,himself did in like case1 when ,he was checked and reviled3 to the intent we may put off from us these men's slanderous accusations1 and may defend soberly and truly our own cause and innocency4 ,for ,christ verily1 when the ,pharisees charged ,him with sorcery1 as one that had some familiar spirits1 and wrought many things by their help3 ,i1 said ,he1 have not the devil1 but do glorify my ,father3 but it is you that have dishonoured me1 and put me to rebuke and shame4 ,and ,st4 ,paul1 when ,festus the lieutenant scorned him as a madman3 ,i1 said he1 most dear ,festus1 am not mad1 as thou thinkest1 but ,i speak the words of truth and soberness4 ,and the ancient ,christians1 when they were slandered to the people for mankillers1 for adulterers1 for committers of incest1 for disturbers of the commonweals1 and did perceive that by such slanderous accusations the religion which they professed might be brought in question1 namely1 if they should seem to hold their peace1 and in manner to confess the fault2 lest this might hinder the free course of the ,gospel1 they made orations1 they put up supplications1 and made means to emperors and princes1 that they might defend themselves and their fellows in open audience4 ,but we truly1 seeing that so many thousands of our brethren in these last twenty years have borne witness unto the truth1 in the midst of most painful torments that could be devised2 and when princes1 desirous to restrain the ,gospel1 sought many ways1 but prevailed nothing2 and that now almost the whole world doth begin to open their eyes to behold the light2 we take it that our cause hath already been sufficiently declared and defended1 and think it not needful to make many words1 seeing the matter saith enough for itself4 ,for if the popes would1 or else if they could weigh with their own selves the whole matter1 and also the beginnings and proceedings of our religion1 how in a manner all their travail hath come to nought1 nobody driving it forward2 and how on the other side1 our cause1 against the will of emperors from the beginning1 against the wills of so many kings1 in spite of the popes1 and almost maugre the head of all men1 hath taken increase1 and by little and little spread over into all countries1 and is come at length even into kings' courts and palaces2 these same things1 methinketh1 might be tokens great enough to them1 that ,god ,himself doth strongly fight in our quarrel1 and doth from heaven laugh at their enterprises2 and that the force of truth is such1 as neither man's power1 nor yet hell-gates are able to root it out4 ,for they be not all mad at this day1 so many free cities1 so many kings1 so many princes1 which have fallen away from the seat of ,rome1 and have rather joined themselves to the ,gospel of ,christ4 ,and although the popes had never hitherunto leisure to consider diligently and earnestly of these matters1 or though some other cares do now let them1 and diverse ways pull them1 or though they count these to be but common and trifling studies1 and nothing to appertain to the ,pope's worthiness1 this maketh not why our matter ought to seem the worse4 ,or if they perchance will not see that which they see indeed1 but rather will withstand the known truth1 ought we therefore by-and-by to be accounted heretics because we obey not their will and pleasure8 ,if so be1 that ,pope ,pius were the man 7we say not1 which he would so gladly be called71 but if he were indeed a man that either would account us for his brethren1 or at least would take us to be men1 he would first diligently have examined our reasons1 and would have seen what might be said with us1 what against us2 and would not in his bull1 whereby he lately pretended a council1 so rashly have condemned so great a part of the world1 so many learned and godly men1 so many commonwealths1 so many kings1 and so many princes1 only upon his own blind prejudices and fore- determinations--and that without hearing of them speak or without showing cause why4 ,but because he hath already so noted us openly1 lest by holding our peace we should seem to grant a fault1 and specially because we can by no means have audience in the public assembly of the general council1 wherein he would no creature should have power to give his voice or to declare his opinion1 except he be sworn1 and straitly bound to maintain his authority 7for we have had good experience hereof in the last conference at the council at ,trident2 where the ambassadors and divines of the princes of ,germany1 and of the free cities1 were quite shut out from their company4 ,neither can we yet forget1 how ,julius the ,third1 above ten years past1 provided warily by his writ that none of our sort should be suffered to speak in the council1 except that there were some1 peradventure1 that would recant and change his opinion73 for this cause chiefly we thought it good to yield up an account of our faith in writing1 and truly and openly to make answer to those things wherewith we have been openly charged2 to the end the world may see the parts and foundations of that doctrine1 in the behalf whereof so many good men have little regarded their own lives2 and that all men may understand what manner of people they be1 and what opinion they have of ,god and of religion1 whom the ,bishop of ,rome1 before they were called to tell their tale1 hath condemned for heretics1 without any good consideration1 without any example1 and utterly without law or right1 only because he heard tell that they did dissent from him and his in some point of religion4 ,and although ,st4 ,hierom would have nobody to be patient when he is suspected of heresy1 yet we will deal herein neither bitterly nor brablingly2 nor yet be carried away with anger and heat2 though he ought to be reckoned neither bitter nor brabler that speaketh the truth4 ,we willingly leave this kind of eloquence to our adversaries1 who1 whatsoever they say against us1 be it never so shrewdly or despitefully said1 yet think it is said modestly and comely enough1 and care nothing whether it be true or false4 ,we need none of these shifts which do maintain the truth4 ,further1 if we do show it plainly that ,god's holy ,gospel1 the ancient bishops1 and the primitive ,church do make on our side1 and that we have not without just cause left these men1 and rather have returned to the ,apostles and old ,catholic fathers2 and if we shall be found to do the same not colourably or craftily1 but in good faith before ,god1 truly1 honestly1 clearly1 and plainly2 and if they themselves which fly our doctrine1 and would be called ,catholics1 shall manifestly see how all these titles of antiquity1 whereof they boast so much1 are quite shaken out of their hands2 and that there is more pith in this our cause than they thought for2 we then hope and trust that none of them will be so negligent and careless of his own salvation1 but he will at length study and bethink himself to whether part he were best to join him4 ,undoubtedly1 except one will altogether harden his heart and refuse to hear1 he shall not repent him to give good heed to this our ,defence1 and to mark well what we say1 and how truly and justly it agreeth with ,christian religion4 ,for where they call us heretics1 it is a crime so heinous1 that unless it may be seen1 unless it may be felt1 and in manner may be holden with hands and fingers1 it ought not lightly to be judged or believed1 when it is laid to the charge of any ,christian man4 ,for heresy is a forsaking of salvation1 a renouncing of ,god's grace1 a departing from the body and spirit of ,christ4 ,but this was ever an old and solemn property with them and their forefathers2 if any did complain of their errors and faults1 and desired to have true religion restored1 straightway to condemn such ones for heretics1 as men new-fangled and factious4 ,christ for no other cause was called a ,samaritan1 but only for that ,he was thought to have fallen to a certain new religion1 and to be the author of a new sect4 ,and ,paul the ,apostle of ,christ was called before the judges to make answer to a matter of heresy2 and therefore he said3 ,according to this way which they call heresy ,i do worship the ,god of my fathers1 believing all things which be written in the law and in the ,prophets4 ,shortly to speak4 ,this universal religion which ,christian men profess at this day was called first of the heathen people a sect and heresy4 ,with these terms did they always fill princes' ears1 to the intent when they had once hated us with a predetermined opinion1 and had counted all that we said to be faction and heresy1 they might be so led away from the truth and right understanding of the cause4 ,but the more sore and outrageous a crime heresy is1 the more it ought to be proved by plain and strong arguments1 especially in this time1 when men begin to give less credit to their words1 and to make more diligent search of their doctrine1 than they were wont to do4 ,for the people of ,god are otherwise instructed now than they were in times past1 when all the bishops of ,rome's sayings were allowed for ,gospel1 and when all religion did depend only upon their authority4 ,nowadays the ,holy ,scripture is abroad1 the writings of the ,apostles and ,prophets are in print1 whereby all truth and ,catholic doctrine may be proved1 and all heresy may be disproved and confuted4 ,sithence1 then1 they bring forth none of these for themselves1 and call us nevertheless heretics1 which have neither fallen from ,christ1 nor from the ,apostles1 nor yet from the ,prophets1 this is an injurious and a very spiteful dealing4 ,with this sword did ,christ put off the devil when ,he was tempted of him3 with these weapons ought all presumption1 which doth advance itself against ,god1 to be overthrown and conquered4 ,for all ,scripture1 saith ,st4 ,paul1 that cometh by the inspiration of ,god1 is profitable to teach1 to confute1 to instruct1 and to reprove1 that the man of ,god may be perfect1 and thoroughly framed to every good work4 ,thus did the holy fathers always fight against the heretics with none other force than with the ,holy ,scriptures4 ,st4 ,augustine1 when he disputed against ,petilian1 a heretic of the ,donatists3 ,let not these words1 quoth he1 be heard between us1 ',i say1 or you say3' let us rather speak in this wise3 ',thus saith the ,lord4' ,there let us seek the ,church3 there let us boult out our cause4 ,likewise ,st4 ,hierom3 ,all those things1 saith he1 which without the testimony of the ,scriptures are holden as delivered from the ,apostles1 be thoroughly smitten down by the sword of ,god's word4 ,st4 ,ambrose also1 to ,gratian the emperor3 ,let the ,scripture1 saith he1 be asked the question1 let the prophets be asked1 and let ,christ be asked4 ,for at that time made the ,catholic fathers and bishops no doubt but that our religion might be proved out of the ,holy ,scriptures4 ,neither were they ever so hardy as to take any for a heretic whose error they could not evidently and apparently reprove by the self-same ,scriptures4 ,and we verily do make answer on this wise1 as ,st4 ,paul did3 ,according to this way which they call heresy we do worship ,god1 and the ,father of our ,lord ,jesus ,christ2 and do allow all things which have been written either in the law or in the ,prophets1 or in the ,apostles' works4 ,wherefore1 if we be heretics1 and they 7as they would fain be called7 be ,catholics1 why do they not1 as they see the fathers1 which were ,catholic men1 have always done8 ,why do they not convince and master us by the ,divine ,scriptures8 ,why do they not call us again to be tried by them8 ,why do they not lay before us how we have gone away from ,christ1 from the ,prophets1 from the ,apostles1 and from the holy fathers8 ,why stick they to do it8 ,why are they afraid of it8 ,it is ,god's cause4 ,why are they doubtful to commit it to the trial of ,god's word8 ,if we be heretics1 which refer all our controversies unto the ,holy ,scriptures1 and report us to the self-same words which we know were sealed by ,god ,himself1 and in comparison of them set little by all other things1 whatsoever may be devised by men1 how shall we say to these folk1 ,i pray you what manner of men be they1 and how is it meet to call them1 which fear the judgment of the ,holy ,scriptures--that is to say1 the judgment of ,god ,himself--and do prefer before them their own dreams and full cold inventions2 and1 to maintain their own traditions1 have defaced and corrupted1 now these many hundred years1 the ordinances of ,christ and of the ,apostles8 ,men say that ,sophocles1 the tragical poet1 when in his old days he was by his own sons accused before the judges for a doting and sottish man1 as one that fondly wasted his own substance1 and seemed to need a governor to see unto him2 to the intent he might clear himself of the fault1 he came into the place of judgment2 and when he had rehearsed before them his tragedy called ,o,edipus ,coloneus1 which he had written at the very time of his accusation1 marvellous exactly and cunningly1 did of himself ask the judges whether they thought any sottish or doting man could do the like piece of work4 ,in like manner1 because these men take us to be mad1 and appeach us for heretics1 as men which have nothing to do1 neither with ,christ1 nor with the ,church of ,god1 we have judged it should be to good purpose1 and not unprofitable1 if we do openly and frankly set forth our faith wherein we stand1 and show all that confidence which we have in ,christ ,jesu2 to the intent all men may see what is our judgment of every part of ,christian religion1 and may resolve with themselves1 whether the faith which they shall see confirmed by the words of ,christ1 by the writings of the ,apostles1 by the testimonies of the ,catholic fathers1 and by the examples of many ages1 be but a certain rage of furious and mad men1 and a conspiracy of heretics4 ,this therefore is our belief4 ,,part ,,ii4 ,we believe that there is one certain nature and ,divine power1 which we call ,god3 and that the same is divided into three equal ,persons--into the ,father1 into the ,son1 and into the ,holy ,ghost2 and that ,they all be of one power1 of one majesty1 of one eternity1 of one ,godhead1 and of one substance4 ,and although these three ,persons be so divided1 that neither the ,father is the ,son1 nor the ,son is the ,holy ,ghost1 or the ,father2 yet1 nevertheless1 we believe that there is but one very ,god1 and that the same one ,god hath created heaven1 and earth1 and all things contained under heaven4 ,we believe that ,jesus ,christ1 the only ,son of the eternal ,father 7as long before it was determined before all beginnings71 when the fulness of time was come1 did take of that blessed and pure ,virgin both flesh and all the nature of man1 that ,he might declare to the world the secret and hid will of ,his ,father2 which will had been laid up from before all ages and generations2 and that ,he might full finish in ,his human body the mystery of our redemption2 and might fasten our sins to the cross1 and also that handwriting which was made against us4 ,we believe that for our sakes ,he died1 and was buried1 descended into hell1 the third day by the power of ,his ,godhead returned to life1 and rose again2 and that the fortieth day after ,his resurrection1 whiles ,his disciples beheld and looked upon ,him ,he ascended into heaven to fulfil all things1 and did place in majesty and glory the self-same body wherewith ,he was born1 wherein ,he lived on earth1 wherein ,he was jested at1 wherein ,he had suffered most painful torments and cruel kind of death1 wherein ,he rose again1 and wherein ,he ascended to the right hand of the ,father1 above all rule1 above all power1 all force1 all dominion1 and above every name that is named1 not only in this world1 but also in the world to come3 and that there ,he now sitteth1 and shall sit1 till all things be full perfected4 ,and although the ,majesty and ,godhead of ,christ be everywhere abundantly dispersed1 yet we believe that his body1 as ,st4 ,augustine saith1 must needs be still in one place2 and that ,christ hath given majesty unto ,his body1 but yet hath not taken away from it the nature of a body2 and that we must not so affirm ,christ to be ,god that we deny ,him to be man3 and1 as the ,martyr ,vigilius saith1 that ,christ hath left us as touching ,his human nature1 but hath not left us as touching ,his ,divine nature2 and that the same ,christ1 though ,he be absent from us concerning ,his manhood1 yet is ever present with us concerning his ,godhead4 ,from that place also we believe that ,christ shall come again to execute that general judgment1 as well of them whom ,he shall then find alive in the body as of them that be already dead4 ,we believe that the ,holy ,ghost1 who is the third person in the ,holy ,trinity1 is very ,god3 not made1 not created1 not begotten1 but proceeding from both the ,father and the ,son1 by a certain mean unknown unto men1 and unspeakable2 and that it is ,his property to mollify and soften the hardness of man's heart when ,he is once received thereinto1 either by the wholesome preaching of the ,gospel1 or by any other way3 that he doth give men light1 and guide them unto the knowledge of ,god2 to all way of truth2 to newness of the whole life2 and to everlasting hope of salvation4 99 99 99 99 99 ,we believe that there is one ,church of ,god1 and that the same is not shut up 7as in times past among the ,jews7 into some one corner or kingdom1 but that it is catholic and universal1 and dispersed throughout the whole world4 ,so that there is now no nation which may truly complain that they be shut forth1 and may not be one of the ,church and people of ,god3 and that this ,church is the kingdom1 the body1 and the spouse of ,christ2 and that ,christ alone is the ,prince of this kingdom2 that ,christ alone is the ,head of this ,body2 and that ,christ alone is the ,bridegroom of this spouse4 ,furthermore1 we believe that there be divers degrees of ministers in the ,church2 whereof some be deacons1 some priests1 some bishops2 to whom is committed the office to instruct the people1 and the whole charge and setting forth of religion4 ,yet notwithstanding1 we say that there neither is1 nor can be any one man1 which may have the whole superiority in this universal state3 for that ,christ is ever present to assist ,his ,church1 and needeth not any man to supply ,his room1 as ,his only heir to all ,his substance3 and that there can be no one mortal creature1 which is able to comprehend or conceive in his mind the universal ,church1 that is to wit1 all the parts of the world1 much less able rightly and duly to put them in order1 and to govern them rightly and duly4 ,for all the ,apostles1 as ,cyprian saith1 were of like power among themselves1 and the rest were the same that ,peter was1 and that it said indifferently to them all1 feed ye2 indifferently to them all1 go into the whole world2 indifferently to them all1 teach ye the ,gospel4 ,and 7as ,hierom saith7 all bishops wheresoever they be1 be they at ,rome1 be they at ,eugubium1 be they at ,constantinople1 be they at ,rhegium1 be all of like pre-eminence1 and of like priesthood4 ,and1 as ,cyprian saith1 there is but one bishopric1 and a piece thereof is perfectly and wholly holden of every particular bishop4 ,and according to the judgment of the ,nicene ,council1 we say1 that the ,bishop of ,rome hath no more jurisdiction over the ,church of ,god than the rest of the patriarchs1 either of ,alexandria1 or of ,antiochia have4 ,and as for the ,bishop of ,rome1 who now calleth all matters before himself alone1 except he do his duty as he ought to do1 except he minister the ,sacraments1 except he instruct the people1 except he warn them and teach them1 we say that he ought not of right once to be called a bishop1 or so much as an elder4 ,for a bishop1 as saith ,augustine1 is a name of labour1 and not of honour3 because he will have that man understand himself to be no bishop1 which will seek to have pre- eminence1 and not to profit others4 ,and that neither the ,pope1 nor any other worldly creature can no more be head of the whole ,church1 or a bishop over all1 than he can be the bridegroom1 the light1 the salvation1 and life of the ,church4 ,for the privileges and names belong only to ,christ1 and be properly and only fit for him alone4 ,and that no ,bishop of ,rome did ever suffer himself to be called by such a proud name before ,phocas the emperor's time1 who1 as we know1 by killing his own sovereign ,maurice the emperor1 did by a traitorous villainy aspire to the empire about the six hundredth and thirteenth year after ,christ was born4 ,also the ,council of ,carthage did circumspectly provide1 that no bishop should be called the highest bishop or chief priest4 ,and therefore1 sithence the ,bishop of ,rome will nowadays so be called1 and challengeth unto himself an authority that is none of his2 besides that he doth plainly contrary to the ancient councils1 and contrary to the old fathers2 we believe that he doth give unto himself1 as it is written by his own companion ,gregory1 a presumptuous1 a profane1 a sacrilegious1 and an antichristian name3 that he is also the king of pride1 that he is ,lucifer1 which preferreth himself before his brethren3 that he hath forsaken the faith1 and is the forerunner of ,antichrist4 ,further we say1 that the minister ought lawfully1 duly1 and orderly to be preferred to that office of the ,church of ,god1 and that no man hath power to wrest himself into the holy ministry at his own pleasure and list4 ,wherefore these persons do us the greater wrong1 which have nothing so common in their mouths1 as that we do nothing orderly and comely1 but all things troublesomely and without order2 and that we allow every man to be a priest1 to be a teacher1 and to be an interpreter of the ,scriptures4 ,moreover1 we say that ,christ hath given to ,his ministers power to bind1 to loose1 to open1 to shut4 ,and that the office of loosing consisteth in this point3 that the minister should either offer by the preaching of the ,gospel the merits of ,christ and full pardon1 to such as have lowly and contrite hearts1 and do unfeignedly repent themselves1 pronouncing unto the same a sure and undoubted forgiveness of their sins1 and hope of everlasting salvation3 or else that the same minister1 when any have offended their brothers' minds with a great offence1 with a notable and open fault1 whereby they have1 as it were1 banished and made themselves strangers from the common fellowship1 and from the body of ,christ2 then after perfect amendment of such persons1 doth reconcile them1 and bring them home again1 and restore them to the company and unity of the faithful4 ,we say also1 that the minister doth execute the authority of binding and shutting1 as often as he shutteth up the gate of the kingdom of heaven against the unbelieving and stubborn persons1 denouncing unto them ,god's vengeance1 and everlasting punishment3 or else1 when he doth quite shut them out from the bosom of the ,church by open excommunication4 ,out of doubt1 what sentence soever the minister of ,god shall give in this sort1 ,god ,himself doth so well allow of it1 that whatsoever here in earth by their means is loosed and bound1 ,god ,himself will loose and bind1 and confirm the same in heaven4 ,and touching the keys1 wherewith they may either shut or open the kingdom of heaven1 we with ,chrysostom say1 ,they be the knowledge of the ,scriptures3 with ,tertullian we say1 ,they be the interpretation of the law3 and with ,eusebius1 we call them ,the ,word of ,god4 ,moreover1 that ,christ's disciples did receive this authority1 not that they should hear the private confessions of the people and listen to their whisperings1 as the common massing-priests do everywhere nowadays1 and do it so1 as though in that one point lay all the virtue and use of the keys3 but to the end they should go1 they should teach1 they should publish abroad the ,gospel1 and be unto the believing a sweet savour of life unto life1 and unto the unbelieving and unfaithful a savour of death unto death2 and that the minds of godly persons being brought low by the remorse of their former life and errors1 after they once began to look up unto the light of the ,gospel1 and believe in ,christ1 might be opened with the ,word of ,god1 even as a door is opened with a key4 ,contrariwise1 that the wicked and wilful folk1 and such as would not believe1 nor return into the right way1 should be left still as fast locked1 and shut up1 and1 as ,st4 ,paul saith1 wax worse and worse4 ,this take we to be the meaning of the keys2 and that after this sort men's consciences either be opened or shut4 ,we say1 that the priest indeed is a judge in this case1 but yet hath no manner of right to challenge an authority1 or power1 as saith ,ambrose4 ,and therefore our ,saviour ,jesu ,christ1 to reprove the negligence of the ,scribes and ,pharisees in teaching1 did with these words rebuke them1 saying3 ,woe be unto you ,scribes and ,pharisees1 which have taken away the keys of knowledge1 and have shut up the kingdom of heaven before men4 ,seeing then the key whereby the way and entry to the kingdom of ,god is opened unto us1 is the word of the ,gospel1 and the expounding of the law and ,scriptures2 we say plainly1 where the same word is not there is not the key4 ,and seeing one manner of word is given to all1 and one only key belongeth to all1 we say1 that there is but one only power of all ministers2 as concerning opening and shutting4 ,and as touching the ,bishop of ,rome1 for all his parasites flatteringly sing these words in his ears1 ,to thee will ,i give the keys of the kingdom of heaven 7as though those keys were fit for him alone1 and for nobody else71 except he go so to work1 as men's consciences may be made pliant1 and be subdued to the ,word of ,god1 we deny that he doth either open1 or shut1 or hath the keys at all4 ,and although he taught and instructed the people 7as would ,god he might once truly do1 and persuade himself it were at the least some piece of his duty71 yet we think his key to be never a whit better1 or of greater force than other men's4 ,for who hath severed him from the rest8 ,who hath taught him more cunningly to open1 or better to absolve than his brethren8 ,we say that matrimony is holy and honourable in all sorts and states of persons1 in the patriarchs1 in the ,prophets1 in the ,apostles1 in holy martyrs1 in the ministers of the ,church1 and in bishops2 and that it is an honest and lawful thing 7as ,chrysostom saith7 for a man1 living in matrimony1 to take upon him therewith the dignity of a bishop4 ,and as ,sozomenus saith of ,spiridion2 and as ,nazianzen saith of his own father1 that a good and diligent bishop doth serve in the ministry never the worse for that he is married1 but rather the better1 and with more ableness to do good4 ,further1 we say1 that the same law which by constraint taketh away this liberty from men1 and compelleth them against their wills to live single1 is the doctrine of devils1 as ,paul saith3 and1 that1 ever sithence the time of this law1 a wonderful uncleanness of life and manners in ,god's ministers1 and sundry horrible enormities have followed1 as the ,bishop of ,augusta1 as ,faber1 as ,abbas ,panormitanus1 as ,latomus1 as the tripartite work1 which is annexed to the second tome of the councils1 and other champions of the ,pope's band1 yea1 and as the matter itself1 and all histories do confess4 ,for it was rightly said by ,pius the ,second1 ,bishop of ,rome1 that he saw many causes why wives should be taken away from priests1 but that he saw many more1 and more weighty causes why they ought to be restored them again4 99 99 99 99 99 ,we receive and embrace all the canonical ,scriptures1 both of the ,old and ,new ,testament1 giving thanks to our ,god1 who hath raised up unto us that light which we might ever have before our eyes1 lest either by the subtlety of man1 or by the snares of the devil1 we should be carried away to errors and lies4 ,also that these be the heavenly voices1 whereby ,god hath opened unto us ,his will3 and that only in them man's heart can have settled rest2 that in them be abundantly and fully comprehended all things1 whatsoever be needful for our salvation1 as ,origen1 ,augustine1 ,chrysostom1 and ,cyrillus have taught3 that they be the very might and strength of ,god to attain to salvation3 that they be the foundations of the ,prophets and ,apostles1 whereupon is built the ,church of ,god3 that they be the very sure and infallible rule1 whereby may be tried1 whether the ,church do stagger1 or err1 and whereunto all ecclesiastical doctrine ought to be called to account3 and that against these ,scriptures neither law1 nor ordinance1 nor any custom ought to be heard3 no1 though ,paul his own self1 or an angel from heaven1 should come and teach the contrary4 99 99 99 99 99 ,moreover1 we allow the ,sacraments of the ,church1 that is to say1 certain holy signs and ceremonies1 which ,christ would we should use1 that by them ,he might set before our eyes the mysteries of our salvation1 and might more strongly confirm our faith which we have in ,his blood1 and might seal ,his grace in our hearts4 ,and these ,sacraments1 together with ,tertullian1 ,origen1 ,ambrose1 ,hierom1 ,chrysostom1 ,basil1 ,dionysius1 and other ,catholic fathers1 do we call figures1 signs1 marks or badges1 prints1 copies1 forms1 seals1 signets1 similitudes1 patterns1 representations1 remembrances and memories4 ,and we make no doubt1 together with the same doctors1 to say1 that these be certain visible words1 seals of righteousness1 tokens of grace3 and do expressly pronounce1 that in the ,lord's ,supper there is truly given unto the believing the body and blood of the ,lord1 the flesh of the ,son of ,god1 which quickeneth our souls1 the meat that cometh from above1 the food of immortality1 grace1 truth1 and life1 and the ,supper to be the communion of the body and blood of ,christ2 by the partaking whereof we be revived1 we be strengthened1 and be fed unto immortality2 and whereby we are joined1 united1 and incorporate unto ,christ1 that we may abide in ,him1 and ,he in us4 ,besides1 we acknowledge there be two ,sacraments1 which1 we judge1 properly ought to be called by this name2 that is to say1 ,baptism and the ,sacrament of thanksgiving4 ,for thus many we say were delivered and sanctified by ,christ1 and well allowed of the old fathers1 ,ambrose and ,augustine4 99 99 99 99 99 ,we say that ,baptism is a ,sacrament of the remission of sins1 and of that washing1 which we have in the blood of ,christ2 and that no person which will profess ,christ's ,name ought to be restrained or kept back therefrom2 no1 not the very babes of ,christians2 forsomuch as they be born in sin1 and do pertain unto the people of ,god4 ,we say1 that ,eucharistia1 that is to say the ,supper of the ,lord1 is a ,sacrament2 that is to wit1 an evident token of the body and blood of ,christ1 wherein is set1 as it were1 before our eyes1 the death of ,christ and ,his resurrection1 and what act soever ,he did whilst ,he was in ,his mortal body3 to the end we may give ,him thanks for ,his death1 and for our deliverance3 and that1 by the often receiving of this ,sacrament1 we may daily renew the remembrance of that matter1 to the intent we1 being fed with the true body and blood of ,christ1 may be brought into the hope of the resurrection and of everlasting life1 and may most assuredly believe that the body and blood of ,christ doth in like manner feed our souls1 as bread and wine doth feed our bodies4 ,to this banquet we think the people of ,god ought to be earnestly bidden1 that they may all communicate among themselves1 and openly declare and testify both the godly society which is among them1 and also the hope which they have in ,christ ,jesu4 ,for this cause if there had been any which would be but a looker-on1 and abstain from the ,holy ,communion1 him did the old fathers and bishops of ,rome in the primitive ,church1 before private mass came up1 excommunicate as a wicked person and as a pagan4 ,neither was there any ,christian at that time which did communicate alone1 whiles other looked on4 ,for so did ,calixtus in times past decree1 that after the consecration was finished1 all should communicate1 except they had rather stand without the church-doors2 because thus 7saith he7 did the ,apostles appoint1 and the same the holy ,church of ,rome keepeth still4 ,moreover1 when the people cometh to the ,holy ,communion1 the ,sacrament ought to be given them in both kinds3 for so both ,christ hath commanded1 and the ,apostles in every place have ordained1 and all the ancient fathers and ,catholic bishops have followed the same4 ,and whoso doth contrary to this1 he 7as ,gelasius saith7 committeth sacrilege4 ,and therefore we say1 that our adversaries at this day1 who having violently thrust out1 and quite forbidden the ,holy ,communion1 do1 without the word of ,god1 without the authority of any ancient council1 without any ,catholic father1 without any example of the primitive ,church1 yea1 and without reason also1 defend and maintain their private masses1 and the mangling of the ,sacraments1 and do this not only against the plain express commandment and bidding of ,christ1 but also against all antiquity1 do wickedly therein1 and are very ,church robbers4 ,we affirm that bread and wine are holy and heavenly mysteries of the body and blood of ,christ1 and that by them ,christ ,himself1 being the true bread of eternal life1 is so presently given unto us as that by faith we verily receive his body and his blood4 ,yet say we not this so1 as though we thought that the nature and substance of the bread and wine is clearly changed and goeth to nothing3 as many have dreamed in these later times1 which yet could never agree among themselves1 of this their dream4 ,for that was not ,christ's meaning1 that the wheaten bread should lay apart his own nature1 and receive a certain new divinity3 but that he might rather change us1 and 7to use ,theophylact's words7 might transform us into ,his body4 ,for what can be said more plainly1 than that which ,ambrose saith3 ,bread and wine remain still the same they were before1 and yet are changed into another thing3 or1 that which ,gelasius saith3 ,the substance of the bread1 or the nature of the wine1 ceaseth not so to be3 or1 that which ,theodoret saith3 ,after the consecration the mystical signs do not cast off their own proper nature2 for they remain still on their former substance1 form1 and kind3 or that which ,augustine saith3 ,that which ye see is the bread and cup1 for so our eyes tell us3 but that which your faith requireth to be taught1 is this3 the bread is the body of ,christ1 and the cup is ,his blood3 or that which ,origen saith3 ,the bread which is sanctified by the ,word of ,god1 as touching the material substance thereof1 goeth into the belly1 and is cast out into the privy3 or that which ,christ ,himself said1 not only after the blessing of the cup1 but after he had ministered the communion3 ,i will drink no more of this fruit of the vine4 ,it is well known that the fruit of the vine is wine1 and not blood4 ,and in speaking thus1 we mean not to abase the ,lord's ,supper1 that it is but a cold ceremony only1 and nothing to be wrought therein 7as many falsely slander us we teach74 ,for we affirm1 that ,christ doth truly and presently give ,his own self in ,his ,sacraments2 in ,baptism1 that we may put ,him on2 and in ,his ,supper1 that we may eat ,him by faith and spirit1 and may have everlasting life by ,his ,cross and blood4 ,and we say not1 this is done slightly and coldly1 but effectually and truly4 ,for although we do not touch the body of ,christ with teeth and mouth1 yet we hold ,him fast1 and eat ,him by faith1 by understanding1 and by the ,spirit4 ,and it is no vain faith which doth comprehend ,christ3 and that is not received with cold devotion1 that is received with understanding1 with faith1 and with spirit4 ,for ,christ ,himself altogether is so offered and given us in these mysteries1 that we may certainly know we be flesh of ,his flesh1 and bone of ,his bones2 and that ,christ continueth in us1 and we in ,him4 ,and therefore in celebrating these mysteries1 the people are to good purpose exhorted before they come to receive the ,holy ,communion1 to lift up their hearts1 and to direct their minds to heavenward3 because ,he is there1 by whom we must be full fed1 and live4 ,cyril saith1 when we come to receive these mysteries1 all gross imaginations must quite be banished4 ,the ,council of ,nice1 as is alleged by some in ,greek1 plainly forbiddeth us to be basely affectioned1 or bent toward the bread and wine1 which are set before us4 ,and1 as ,chrysostom very aptly writeth1 we say1 that the body of ,christ is the dead carcase1 and we ourselves must be the eagles1 meaning thereby that we must fly high1 if we will come unto the body of ,christ4 ,for this table1 as ,chrysostom saith1 is a table of eagles1 and not of jays4 ,cyprian also1 ,this bread1 saith he1 is the food of the soul1 and not the meat of the belly4 ,and ,augustine1 ,how shall ,i hold ,him1 saith he1 which is absent8 ,how shall ,i reach my hand up to heaven1 to lay hold upon ,him that sitteth there8 ,he answereth1 ,reach hither thy faith1 and then thou hast laid hold on ,him4 ,we cannot also away in our churches with the shows1 and sales1 and buying and selling of masses1 nor the carrying about and worshipping of bread3 nor such other idolatrous and blasphemous fondness3 which none of them can prove that ,christ or ,his ,apostles did ever ordain1 or left unto us4 ,and we justly blame the bishops of ,rome1 who1 without the word of ,god1 without the authority of the holy fathers1 without any example of antiquity1 after a new guise1 do not only set before the people the sacramental bread to be worshipped as ,god1 but do also carry about the same upon an ambling horse1 whithersoever themselves journey1 as in old times the ,persians' fire1 and the relics of the goddess ,isis1 were solemnly carried about in procession3 and have brought the ,sacraments of ,christ to be used now as a stage play and a solemn sight3 to the end1 that men's eyes should be fed with nothing else but with mad gazings and foolish gauds1 in the self-same matter1 wherein the death of ,christ ought diligently to be beaten into our hearts1 and wherein also the mysteries of our redemption ought with all holiness and reverence to be executed4 ,besides1 where they say1 and sometimes do persuade fools1 that they are able by their masses to distribute and apply unto men's commodity all the merits of ,christ's death1 yea1 although many times the parties think nothing of the matter1 and understand full little what is done1 this is a mockery1 an heathenish fancy1 and a very toy4 ,for it is our faith that applieth the death and cross of ,christ to our benefit1 and not the act of the massing priest4 ,faith had in the ,sacraments1 saith ,augustine1 doth justify1 and not the ,sacraments4 ,and ,origen saith1 ,christ is the ,priest1 the ,propitiation1 and ,sacrifice3 which ,propitiation cometh to every one by means of faith4 ,so that by this reckoning1 we say that the ,sacraments of ,christ without faith do not once profit these that be alive2 a great deal less do they profit those that be dead4 ,and as for their brags they are wont to make of their purgatory1 though we know it is not a thing so very late risen amongst them1 yet is it no better than a blockish and an old wives' device4 ,augustine1 indeed1 sometime saith1 there is such a certain place3 sometime he denieth not1 but there may be such a one2 sometime he doubteth2 sometime again he utterly denieth it to be1 and thinketh that men are therein deceived by a certain natural good will they bear their friends departed4 ,but yet of this one error hath there grown up such a harvest of these mass-mongers1 the masses being sold abroad commonly in every corner1 the temples of ,god became shops to get money3 and silly souls were persuaded that nothing was more necessary to be bought4 ,indeed1 there was nothing more gainful for these men to sell4 ,as touching the multitude of vain and superfluous ceremonies1 we know that ,augustine did grievously complain of them in his own time3 and therefore have we cut off a great number of them1 because we know that men's consciences were cumbered about them1 and the churches of ,god overladen with them4 ,nevertheless we keep still1 and esteem1 not only those ceremonies which we are sure were delivered us from the ,apostles1 but some others too besides1 which we thought might be suffered without hurt to the ,church of ,god3 because that we had a desire that all things in the holy congregation might 7as ,st4 ,paul commandeth7 be done with comeliness and in good order4 ,but as for all those things which we saw were either very superstitious1 or wholly unprofitable1 or noisome1 or mockeries1 or contrary to the ,holy ,scriptures1 or else unseemly for honest or discreet folks1 as there be an infinite number nowadays where papistry is used2 these1 ,i say1 we have utterly refused without all manner exception1 because we would not have the right worshipping of ,god any longer denied with such follies4 ,we make our prayers in that tongue which all our people1 as meet is1 may understand1 to the end they may 7as ,paul counselleth us7 take common commodity by common prayer1 even as all the holy fathers and ,catholic bishops1 both in the ,old and ,new ,testament1 did used to pray themselves1 and taught the people to pray too1 lest1 as ,augustine saith1 like parrots and ousels we should seem to speak that we understand not4 ,neither have we any other mediator and intercessor1 by whom we may have access to ,god the ,father1 than ,jesus ,christ1 in whose only ,name all things are obtained at ,his ,father's hand4 ,but it is a shameful part1 and full of infidelity1 that we see every whore used in the churches of our adversaries1 not only in that they will have innumerable sorts of mediators1 and that utterly without the authority of ,god's word 7so that1 as ,jeremy saith1 ,the saints be now as many in number1 or rather above the number of the cities2 and poor men cannot tell to which saint it were best to turn them first2 and though there be so many as they cannot be told1 yet every one of them hath his peculiar duty and office assigned unto him of these folks1 what thing they ought to ask1 what to give1 and what to bring to pass73 but besides this also1 in that they do not only wickedly1 but also shamefully1 call upon the ,blessed ,virgin1 ,christ's mother1 to have her remember that she is the mother1 and to command her ,son1 and to use a mother's authority over ,him4 ,we say also1 that every person is born in sin1 and leadeth his life in sin3 that nobody is able truly to say his heart is clean3 that the most righteous person is but an unprofitable servant3 that the law of ,god is perfect1 and requireth of us perfect and full obedience3 that we are able by no means to fulfil that law in this worldly life3 that there is no one mortal creature which can be justified by his own deserts in ,god's sight3 and therefore that our only succour and refuge is to fly to the mercy of our ,father by ,jesu ,christ1 and assuredly to persuade our minds that ,he is the obtainer of forgiveness for our sins2 and that by ,his blood all our spots of sin be washed clean3 that ,he hath pacified and set at one1 all things by the blood of ,his ,cross3 that ,he by the same one only ,sacrifice1 which ,he once offered upon the ,cross1 hath brought to effect and fulfilled all things1 and that for that cause ,he said1 when ,he gave up the ghost1 ,it is finished1 as though ,he would signify1 that the price and ransom was now full paid for the sin of all mankind4 ,if there be any1 then1 that think this ,sacrifice not sufficient1 let them go1 in ,god's ,name1 and seek another that is better4 ,we1 verily1 because we know this to be the only ,sacrifice1 are well content with it alone and look for none other3 and1 forasmuch as it was to be offered but once1 we command it not to be renewed again3 and because it was full and perfect in all points and parts1 we do not ordain in place thereof any continual succession of offerings4 ,besides1 though we say1 we have no meed at all by our own works and deeds1 but appoint all the means of our salvation to be in ,christ alone1 yet say we not1 that for this cause men ought to live loosely and dissolutely3 nor that it is enough for a ,christian to be baptised only and to believe3 as though there were nothing else required at his hand4 ,for true faith is lively1 and can in no wise be idle4 ,thus therefore teach we the people1 that ,god hath called us1 not to follow riot and wantonness1 but1 as ,st4 ,paul saith1 unto good works1 to walk in them3 that ,god hath plucked us out from the power of darkness1 to the end that we should serve the living ,god2 to cut away all the remnants of sin1 and to work our salvation in fear and trembling3 that it may appear1 how that the ,spirit of sanctification is in our bodies1 and that ,christ ,himself doth dwell in our hearts4 ,to conclude1 we believe1 that this our self-same flesh wherein we live1 although it die1 and come to dust1 yet at the last day it shall return again to life1 by the means of ,christ's ,spirit which dwelleth in us3 and that then verily1 whatsoever we suffer here in the meanwhile for ,his sake1 ,christ will wipe away all tears and lamentation from our eyes3 and that we through ,him shall enjoy everlasting life1 and shall for ever be with ,him in glory4 ,so be it4 ,,part ,,iii4 ,behold these are the horrible heresies1 for the which1 a good part of the world is at this day condemned by the ,bishop of ,rome2 and yet were never heard to plead their cause4 ,he should have commenced his suit rather against ,christ1 against the ,apostles1 and against the holy fathers4 ,for these things did not only proceed from them1 but were also appointed by them3 except perhaps these men will say 7as ,i think they will indeed71 that ,christ never instituted the ,holy ,communion to be divided amongst the faithful2 or that ,christ's ,apostles and the ancient fathers said private masses in every corner of the temples1 now ten1 now twenty together in one day3 or that ,christ and ,his ,apostles banished all the common people from the ,sacrament of ,his blood3 or that the thing1 which they themselves do at this day everywhere1 and do it so as they condemn him for a heretic which doth otherwise1 is not called of ,gelasius1 their own doctor1 plain sacrilege3 or that these be not the very words of ,ambrose1 ,augustine1 ,gelasius1 ,theodoret1 ,chrysostom1 and ,origen3 ,the bread and wine in the ,sacraments remain still the same they were before3 ,the thing which is seen upon the ,holy ,table is bread2 ,there ceaseth not to be still the substance of bread1 and nature of wine2 ,the substance and nature of bread are not changed2 ,the self-same bread1 as touching the material substance1 goeth into the belly1 and is cast out into the privy3 or that ,christ1 the ,apostles1 and holy fathers prayed not in that tongue which the people might understand3 or that ,christ hath not performed all things by that one offering which ,he once offered3 or that the same sacrifice was unperfect1 and so now we have need of another4 ,all these things must they of necessity say1 unless perchance they had rather say thus1 that all law and right is locked up in the treasury of the ,pope's breast1 and that1 as once one of his soothing pages and claw-backs did not stick to say1 ,the ,pope is able to dispense against the ,apostles2 against a council1 and against the canons and rules of the ,apostles3 and that he is not bound to stand neither to the examples1 nor to the ordinances1 nor to the laws of ,christ4 ,we1 for our part1 have learned these things of ,christ1 of the ,apostles1 of the devout fathers3 and do sincerely1 with good faith1 teach the people of ,god the same4 ,which thing is the only cause why we at this day are called heretics of the chief prelates 7no doubt7 of religion4 ,o immortal ,god6 hath ,christ ,himself1 then1 the ,apostles1 and so many fathers all at once gone astray8 ,were then ,origen1 ,ambrose1 ,augustine1 ,chrysostom1 ,gelasius1 ,theodoret1 forsakers of the ,catholic faith8 was so notable a consent of so many ancient bishops and learned men nothing else but a conspiracy of heretics8 or is that now condemned in us1 which was then commended in them8 or is the thing now1 by alteration only of men's affections1 suddenly become schismatic1 which in them was counted ,catholic8 or shall that which in times past was true1 now by-and-by1 because it liketh not these men1 be judged false8 let them then bring forth another ,gospel1 and let them show the causes why these things1 which so long have openly been observed and well-allowed in the ,church of ,god1 ought now in the end to be called in again4 ,we know well enough that the same word which was opened by ,christ1 and spread abroad by the ,apostles1 is sufficient both1 our salvation and all truth1 to uphold and maintain2 and also to confound all manner of heresy4 ,by that word only do we condemn all sorts of the old heretics1 whom these men say we have called out of hell again4 ,as for the ,arians1 the ,eutychians1 the ,marcionites1 the ,ebionites1 the ,valentinians1 the ,carpocratians1 the ,tatians1 the ,novatians1 and shortly all them which have a wicked opinion1 either of ,god the ,father1 or of ,christ1 or of the ,holy ,ghost1 or of any other point of ,christian religion1 forsomuch as they be confuted by the ,gospel of ,christ1 we plainly pronounce them for detestable and castaway persons1 and defy them even unto the devil4 ,neither do we leave them so1 but we also severely and straitly hold them in by lawful and politic punishments1 if they fortune to break out anywhere1 and bewray themselves4 ,indeed1 we grant that certain new and very strange sects1 as the ,anabaptists1 ,libertines1 ,menonians1 and ,zuenckfeldians1 have been stirring in the world ever since the ,gospel did first spring4 ,but the world seeth now right well1 thanks be given to our ,god1 that we neither have bred1 nor taught1 nor kept up these monsters4 ,in good fellowship1 ,i pray thee1 whosoever thou be1 read our books3 they are to be sold in every place4 ,what hath there ever been written by any of our company which might plainly bear with the madness of any of those heretics4 ,nay1 ,i say unto you1 there is no country this day so free from their pestilent infections1 as they be1 wherein the ,gospel is freely and commonly taught4 ,so that if they weigh the very matter with earnest and upright advisement1 this thing is a great argument1 that this same is the very truth of the ,gospel of ,christ1 which we do teach4 ,for lightly neither is cockle wont to grow without the wheat1 nor yet the chaff without the corn4 ,for from the very ,apostles' times1 who knoweth not how many heresies did rise up even together so soon1 as the ,gospel was first spread abroad8 ,who ever had heard tell of ,simon1 ,menander1 ,saturninus1 ,basilides1 ,carpocrates1 ,cerinthus1 ,ebion1 ,valentinus1 ,secundus1 ,marcosius1 ,colorbasius1 ,heracleo1 ,lucianus1 and ,severus1 before the ,apostles were sent abroad8 ,but why stand we reckoning up these8 ,epiphanius rehearseth up fourscore sundry heresies2 and ,augustine many more1 which sprang up even together with the ,gospel8 ,what then8 ,was the ,gospel therefore not the ,gospel1 because heresies sprang up withal8 or was ,christ therefore not ,christ8 ,and yet1 as we said1 doth not this great crop and heap of heresies grow up amongst us1 which do openly1 abroad1 and frankly teach the ,gospel4 ,these poisons take their beginnings1 their increasings1 and strength1 amongst our adversaries1 in blindness and in darkness1 amongst whom truth is with cruelty and tyranny kept under1 and cannot be heard but in corners and secret meetings4 ,but let them make a proof3 let them give the ,gospel free passage3 let the truth of ,jesu ,christ give his clear light1 and stretch forth ,his bright beams into all parts3 and then shall they forthwith see how all these shadows straight will vanish and pass away at the light of the ,gospel1 even as the thick mist of the night consumeth at the sight of the sun4 ,for whilst these men sit still1 and make merry and do nothing1 we continually repress and put back all those heresies which they falsely charge us to nourish and maintain4 ,where they say1 that we have fallen into sundry sects1 and would be called some of us ,lutherians1 and some of us ,zuinglians1 and cannot yet well agree among ourselves touching the whole substance of doctrine3 what would these men have said1 if they had been in the first times of the ,apostles and holy fathers1 when one said1 ,i hold of ,paul2 another1 ,i hold of ,cephas2 another1 ,i hold of ,apollo2 when ,paul did so sharply rebuke ,peter2 when1 upon a falling out1 ,barnabas departed from ,paul2 when1 as ,origen mentioneth1 the ,christians were divided into so many factions1 as that they kept no more but the name of ,christians in common among them1 being in no manner of thing else like unto ,christians2 when1 as ,socrates saith1 for their dissensions and sundry sects they were laughed and jested at openly of the people in the common game-plays2 when1 as ,constantine the emperor affirmeth1 there were such a number of variances and brawlings in the ,church1 that it might justly seem a misery far passing all the former miseries2 when also ,theophilus1 ,epiphanius1 ,chrysostom1 ,augustine1 ,ruffine1 ,hierom1 being all ,christians1 being all fathers1 being all ,catholics1 did strive one against another with most bitter and remediless contentions without end2 when1 as saith ,nazianzen1 the parts of one body were consumed and wasted one of another2 when the east part was divided from the west1 only for leavened bread and only for keeping of ,easter ,day2 which were indeed no great matters to be strived for2 and when in all councils new creeds and new decrees continually were devised4 ,what would these men 7trow ye7 have said in those days8 which side would they specially then have taken8 and which would they then have forsaken8 which ,gospel would they have believed8 whom would they have accounted for heretics1 and whom for ,catholics8 ,and yet what a stir and revel keep they at this time upon two poor names only of ,luther and ,zuinglius8 ,because these two men do not yet fully agree upon some one point1 therefore would they needs have us think that both of them were deceived2 that neither of them had the ,gospel2 and that neither of them taught the truth aright4 ,but1 good ,god1 what manner of fellows be these which blame us for disagreeing8 ,and do all they themselves1 ween you1 agree well together8 ,is every one of them fully resolved what to follow8 ,hath there been no strifes1 no debates1 no quarrels among them at no time8 ,why then do the ,scotists and the ,thomists1 about that they call meritum congrui and meritum condigni1 no better agree together8 ,why agree they no better among themselves concerning original sin in the ,blessed ,virgin8 concerning a solemn vow and a single vow8 ,why say the canonists1 that auricular confession is appointed by the positive law of man3 and the schoolmen contrariwise1 that it is appointed by the law of ,god8 ,why doth ,albertus ,pighius dissent from ,cajetanus8 ,why doth ,thomas dissent from ,lombardus1 ,scotus from ,thomas1 ,occamus from ,scotus1 ,alliacensis ed4 #aefd ,alliensis from ,occamus8 ,and why do the ,nominals disagree from the ,reals8 ,and yet say ,i nothing of so many diversities of friars and monks2 how some of them put a great holiness in eating of fish1 and some in eating of herbs2 some in wearing of shoes1 and some in wearing of sandals2 some in going in a linen garment1 and some in a woollen2 some of them called white1 some black2 some being shaven broad1 and some narrow3 some stalking abroad upon pattens1 some barefooted2 some girt1 and some ungirt4 ,they ought1 ,i wiss1 to remember1 how there be some of their own company which say1 that the body of ,christ is in ,his ,supper naturally3 contrary1 other some of the self-same company deny it to be so4 ,again1 that there be other of them1 which say1 the body of ,christ in the ,holy ,communion is rent and torn with our teeth3 and some again that deny the same4 ,some also of them there be1 which write that the body of ,christ is quantum in the ,eucharistia2 that is to say1 hath his perfect quantity in the ,sacrament2 some other again say nay4 ,that there be others of them which say ,christ did consecrate with a certain ,divine power3 some1 that he did the same with ,his blessing3 some again that say1 ,he did it with uttering five solemn chosen words3 and some1 with rehearsing the same words afterward again4 ,some will have it1 that1 when ,christ did speak those five words1 the material wheaten bread was pointed by this demonstrative pronoun hoc3 some had rather have1 that a certain vagum individuum1 as they term it1 was meant thereby4 ,again1 others there be that say dogs and mice may truly and in very deed eat the body of ,christ2 and others again there be that steadfastly deny it4 ,there be others1 which say1 that the very accidents of bread and wine may nourish3 others again there be which say1 how that the substance of bread doth return again4 ,what need ,i say more8 ,it were overlong and tedious to reckon up all things4 ,so very uncertain1 and full of controversies1 is yet the whole form of these men's religion and doctrine1 even amongst themselves1 from whence it did first spring and begin4 ,for hardly at any time do they well agree between themselves3 except it be peradventure as1 in times past1 the ,pharisees and ,sadducees2 or as ,herod and ,pilate did accord against ,christ4 ,they were best1 therefore1 to go and set peace at home rather among their own selves4 ,of a truth1 unity and concord doth best become religion3 yet is not unity the sure and certain mark whereby to know the ,church of ,god4 ,for there was the greatest consent that might be amongst them that worshipped the golden calf2 and among them which with one voice jointly cried against our ,saviour ,jesus ,christ1 ,crucify ,him4 ,neither1 because the ,corinthians were unquieted with private dissensions3 or because ,paul did square with ,peter1 or ,barnabas with ,paul3 or1 because the ,christians1 upon the very beginning of the ,gospel1 were at mutual discord touching some one matter or other1 may we therefore think there was no ,church of ,god amongst them4 ,and as for those persons1 whom they upon spite call ,zuinglians and ,lutherians1 in very deed they of both sides be ,christians1 good friends and brethren4 ,they vary not betwixt themselves upon the principles and foundations of our religion1 nor as touching ,god1 nor ,christ1 nor the ,holy ,ghost1 nor of the means of justification1 nor yet everlasting life1 but upon one only question1 which is neither weighty nor great3 neither mistrust we1 or make doubt at all1 but they will shortly be agreed4 ,and if there be any of them which have other opinion than is meet1 we doubt not but ere it be long they will put apart all affections and names of parties1 and that ,god will reveal it unto them3 so that by better considering and searching out of the matter1 as once it came to pass in the ,council of ,chalcedon1 all causes and seeds of dissension shall be thoroughly plucked up by the root1 and be buried1 and quite forgotten for ever4 ,which ,god grant4 ,but this is the most grievous and heavy case1 that they call us wicked and ungodly men1 and say we have thrown away all care of religion4 ,though this ought not to trouble us much1 whilst they themselves that thus have charged us know full well how spiteful and false a saying it is3 for ,justin the martyr is a witness1 how that all ,christians were called ,greek text1 that is1 godless1 as soon as the ,gospel first began to be published1 and the ,name of ,christ to be openly declared4 ,and when ,polycarpus stood to be judged1 the people stirred up the president to slay and murder all them which professed the ,gospel1 with these words1 ,greek text1 that is to say1 ,rid out of the way these wicked and godless creatures4 ,and this was not because it was true that the ,christians were godless1 but because they would not worship stones and stocks which were then honoured as ,god4 ,the whole world seeth plainly enough already1 what we and ours have endured at these men's hands for religion and our only ,god's cause4 ,they have thrown us into prison1 into water1 into fire1 and imbrued themselves in our blood3 not because we were either adulterers1 or robbers1 or murderers1 but only for that we confessed the ,gospel of ,jesu ,christ1 and put our confidence in the living ,god2 and for that we complained too justly and truly 7,lord1 thou knowest71 that they did break the law of ,god for their own most vain traditions2 and that our adversaries were the very foes to the ,gospel1 and enemies to ,christ's ,cross1 who so wittingly and willingly did obstinately despise ,god's commandments4 ,wherefore1 when these men saw they could not rightly find fault with our doctrine1 they would needs pick a quarrel and inveigh and rail against our manners1 surmising1 how that we do condemn all well-doings3 that we set open the door to all licentiousness and lust1 and lead away the people from all love of virtue4 ,and in very deed1 the life of all men1 even of the devoutest and most ,christian1 both is1 and evermore hath been1 such as one may always find some lack1 even in the very best and purest conversation4 ,and such is the inclination of all creatures unto evil1 and the readiness of all men to suspect that the things which neither have been done1 nor once meant to be done1 yet may be easily both heard and credited for true4 ,and like as a small spot is soon espied in the neatest and whitest garment1 even so the least stain of dishonesty is easily found out in the purest and sincerest life4 ,neither take we all them which have at this day embraced the doctrine of the ,gospel1 to be angels1 and to live clearly without any mote or wrinkle2 nor yet think we these men either so blind1 that if anything may be noted in us1 they are not able to perceive the same even through the least crevice3 nor so friendly1 that they will construe aught to the best3 nor yet so honest of nature nor courteous1 that they will look back upon themselves1 and weigh our fashions by their own4 ,if so be we list to search this matter from the bottom1 we know in the very ,apostles' times there were ,christians1 through whom the ,name of the ,lord was blasphemed and evil spoken of among the ,gentiles4 ,constantius the emperor bewaileth1 as it is written in ,sozomenus1 that many waxed worse after they had fallen to the religion of ,christ4 ,and ,cyprian1 in a lamentable oration1 setteth out the corrupt manners in his time3 ,the wholesome discipline1 saith he1 which the ,apostles left unto us1 hath idleness and long rest now utterly marred3 everyone studied to increase his livelihood2 and clean forgetting either what they had done before whilst they were under the ,apostles1 or what they ought continually to do1 having received the faith they earnestly laboured to make great their own wealth with an unsatiable desire of covetousness4 ,there is no devout religion1 saith he1 in priests1 no sound faith in ministers1 no charity showed in good works1 no form of godliness in their conditions3 men are become effeminate1 and women's beauty is counterfeited4 ,and before his days1 said ,tertullian1 ,o how wretched be we1 which are called ,christians at this time6 for we live as heathens under the ,name of ,christ4 ,and without reciting of many more writers1 ,gregory ,nazianzen speaketh thus of the pitiful state of his own time3 ,we1 saith he1 are in hatred among the heathen for our own vices' sake2 we are also become now a wonder1 not only to angels and men1 but even to all the ungodly4 ,in this case was the ,church of ,god1 when the ,gospel first began to shine1 and when the fury of tyrants was not as yet cooled1 nor the sword taken off from the ,christians' necks4 ,surely it is no new thing that men be but men1 although they be called by the name of ,christians4 ,,part ,,iv4 ,but will these men1 ,i pray you1 think nothing at all of themselves1 while they accuse us so maliciously8 ,and while they have leisure to behold so far off1 and see both what is done in ,germany and in ,england1 have they either forgotten1 or can they not see what is done at ,rome8 or be they our accusers1 whose life is such as no man is able to make mention thereof but with shame and uncomeliness8 ,our purpose here is1 not to take in hand1 at this present1 to bring to light and open to the world those things which were meet rather to be hid and buried with the workers of them4 ,it beseemeth neither our religion1 nor our modesty1 nor our shamefastness4 ,but yet he1 which giveth commandment that he should be called the ,vicar of ,christ1 and the ,head of the ,church2 who also heareth that such things be done in ,rome1 who seeth them1 who suffereth them 7for we will go no further71 he can easily consider with himself what manner of things they be4 ,let him on ,god's ,name call to mind1 let him remember that they be of his own canonists1 which have taught the people that fornication between single folk is no sin 7as though they had fette that doctrine from ,mitio in ,terence71 whose words be3 ,it is no sin 7believe me7 for a young man to haunt harlots4 ,let him remember they be of his own which have decreed1 that a priest ought not to be put out of his cure for fornication4 ,let him remember also how ,cardinal ,campegius1 ,albertus ,pighius1 and others many more of his own1 have taught1 that the priest which keepeth a concubine doth live more holily and chastely than he which hath a wife in matrimony4 ,i trust he hath not yet forgotten that there be many thousands of common harlots in ,rome2 and that himself doth gather yearly of the same harlots upon1 a thirty thousand ducats1 by the way of an annual pension4 ,neither can he forget1 how himself doth maintain openly brothel houses1 and by a most filthy lucre doth filthily and lewdly serve his own lust4 ,were all things then pure and holy in ,rome1 when ,joan a woman1 rather of perfect age than of perfect life1 was ,pope there1 and bare herself as the head of the ,church3 and after that for two whole years in that holy see she had played the naughty pack1 at last1 going in procession about the city1 in the sight of all the cardinals and bishops1 fell in travail openly in the streets4 ,but what need we rehearse concubines and bawds8 as for that is now an ordinary and a gainful sin at ,rome4 ,for harlots sit there now-a-days1 not as they did in times past1 without the city walls1 and with their faces hid and covered1 but they dwell in palaces and fair houses3 they stray about in court and market1 and that with bare and open face3 as who say1 they may not only lawfully do it1 but ought also to be praised for so doing4 ,what should we say any more of this8 ,their vicious and abominable life is now thoroughly known to the whole world4 ,bernard writeth roundly and truly of the ,bishop of ,rome's house1 yea1 and of the ,bishop of ,rome himself4 ,thy palace1 saith he1 taketh in good men1 but it maketh none2 naughty persons thrive there1 and the good appayre and decay4 ,and whosoever he were which wrote the ,tripartite work1 annexed to the ,council ,lateranense1 saith thus3 ,so excessive at this day is the riot1 as well in the prelates and bishops as in the clerks and priests1 that it is horrible to be told4 ,but these things be not only grown in ure1 and so by custom and continual time well allowed1 as all the rest of their doings in manner be1 but they are now waxen old and rotten ripe4 ,for who hath not heard what a heinous act ,peter ,aloisius1 ,pope ,paul the ,third's son1 committed against ,cosmus ,cherius1 the ,bishop of ,fanum2 what ,john1 ,archbishop of ,beneventum1 the ,pope's legate at ,venice1 wrote in the commendation of a most abominable filthiness3 and how he set forth1 with most loathsome words and wicked eloquence1 the matter which ought not once to proceed out of anybody's mouth6 ,to whose ears hath it not come1 that ,n4 ,diasius1 a ,spaniard1 being purposely sent from ,rome into ,germany1 so shamefully and devilishly murdered his own brother ,john ,diasius1 a most innocent and a most godly man1 only because he had embraced the ,gospel of ,jesu ,christ1 and would not return again to ,rome8 ,but it may chance to this they will say3 ,these things may sometime happen in the best governed commonwealths1 yea1 and against the magistrates' wills3 and besides1 there be good laws made to punish such4 ,i grant it be so3 but by what good laws 7,i would know7 have these great mischiefs been punished amongst them8 ,petrus ,aloisius1 after he had done that notorious act that ,i spake of1 was always cherished in his father's bosom1 ,pope ,paul the ,third1 and made his very derling4 ,diasius1 after he had murdered his own brother1 was delivered by the ,pope's means1 to the end he might not be punished by good laws4 ,john ,casus1 the ,archbishop of ,beneventum1 is yet alive1 yea1 and liveth at ,rome1 even in the eyes and sight of the most holy father4 ,they have put to death infinite numbers of our brethren1 only because they believed truly and sincerely in ,jesu ,christ4 ,but of that great and foul number of harlots1 fornicators1 adulterers1 what one have they at any time 7,i say not killed1 but7 either excommunicated1 or once attached8 ,why6 voluptuousness1 adultery1 ribaldry1 whoredom1 murdering of kin1 incest1 and others more abominable parts1 are not these counted sin at ,rome8 ,or1 if they be sin1 ought ,christ's vicar1 ,peter's successor1 the most holy father1 so lightly and slightly to bear them1 as though they were no sin1 and that in the city of ,rome1 and in that principal tower of all holiness8 ,o holy ,scribes and ,pharisees1 which knew not this kind of holiness6 what a ,catholic faith is this6 ,peter did not thus teach at ,rome3 ,paul did not so live at ,rome3 they did not practise brothelry1 which these do openly3 they made not a yearly revenue and profit of harlots3 they suffered no common adulterers and wicked murderers to go unpunished4 ,they did not receive them into their entire familiarity1 into their council1 into their household1 nor yet into the company of ,christian men4 ,these men ought not therefore so unreasonably to triumph against our living4 ,it had been more wisdom for them either first to have proved good their own life before the world1 or at least to have cloaked it a little more cunningly4 ,for we do use still the old and ancient laws1 and 7as much as men may do1 in the manners used at these days1 all things are so wholly corrupt7 we diligently and earnestly put in execution the ecclesiastical discipline3 we have not common brothel-houses of strumpets1 nor yet flocks of concubines1 nor herds of harlot-hunters3 neither do we prefer adultery before matrimony3 neither do we exercise beastly sensuality3 neither do we gather ordinary rents and stipends of stews3 nor do we suffer to escape unpunished incest and abominable naughtiness1 nor yet such manquellers as the ,aloisians1 ,casians1 and ,diazians were4 ,for if these things would have pleased us1 we needed not to have departed from these men's fellowship1 amongst whom such enormities be in their chief pride and price4 ,neither needed we1 for leaving them1 to run into the hatred of men1 and into most wilful dangers4 ,paul the ,fourth1 not many months sithence1 had at ,rome in prison certain ,augustine friars1 many bishops1 and a great number of other devout men1 for religion's sake4 ,he racked them and tormented them3 to make them confess1 he left no means unassayed4 ,but in the end how many brothels1 how many whoremongers1 how many adulterers1 how many incestuous persons could he find of all those8 ,our ,god be thanked1 although we be not the men we ought and profess to be1 yet1 whosoever we be1 compare us with these men1 and even our own life and innocency will soon prove untrue and condemn their malicious surmises4 ,for we exhort the people to all virtue and well-doing1 not only by books and preachings1 but also with our examples and behaviour4 ,we also teach that the ,gospel is not a boasting or bragging of knowledge1 but that it is the law of life1 and that a ,christian man 7as ,tertullian saith7 ought not to speak honourably1 but ought to live honourably2 nor that they be the hearers of the law1 but the doers of the law1 which are justified before ,god4 ,besides all these matters wherewith they charge us1 they are wont also to add this one thing1 which they enlarge with all kind of spitefulness3 that is1 that we be men of trouble1 that we pluck the sword and sceptre out of kings' hands2 that we arm the people3 that we overthrow judgment places1 destroy the laws1 make havoc of possessions1 seek to make the people princes1 turn all things upside down3 and1 to be short1 that we would have nothing in good frame in a commonwealth4 ,good ,lord1 how often have they set on fire princes' hearts with these words1 to the end they might quench the light of the ,gospel in the very first appearing of it1 and might begin to hate the same ere ever they were able to know it1 and to the end that every magistrate might think he saw his deadly enemy as often as he saw any of us6 ,surely it should exceedingly grieve us to be so maliciously accused of most heinous treason1 unless we knew that ,christ ,himself1 the ,apostles1 and a number of good and ,christian men1 were in times past blamed and envied in manner for the same faults4 ,for although ,christ taught they should give unto ,caesar that which was ,caesar's1 yet was ,he charged with sedition1 in that ,he was accused to devise some conspiracy and covet the kingdom4 ,and hereupon they cried out with open mouth against him in the place of judgment3 ,if thou let this man escape1 thou art not ,caesar's friend4 ,and though the ,apostles did likewise evermore and steadfastly teach1 that magistrates ought to be obeyed1 that every soul ought to be subject to the higher powers1 not only for fear of wrath and punishment1 but even for conscience sake2 yet bare they the name to disquiet the people1 and to stir up the multitude to rebel4 ,after this sort did ,haman specially bring the nation of the ,jews into the hatred of the king ,assuerus1 because1 said he1 they were a rebellious and stubborn people1 and despised the ordinances and commandments of princes4 ,wicked ,king ,ahab said to ,elie ,elijah the prophet of ,god1 ,it is thou that troublest ,israel4 ,amasias1 the priest at ,bethel1 laid a conspiracy to the prophet ,amos' charge before ,king ,jeroboam1 saying1 ,see1 ,amos hath made a conspiracy against thee in the midst of the house of ,israel4 ,to be brief1 ,tertullian saith1 this was the general accusation of all ,christians while he lived1 that they were traitors1 they were rebels1 and the enemies of mankind4 ,wherefore1 if now-a-days the truth be likewise evil spoken of1 and being the same truth it was then1 if it be now like despitefully used as it was in times past1 though it be a grievous and unkind dealing1 yet can it not seem unto us a new or an unwonted matter4 ,forty years ago and upward1 was it an easy thing for them to devise against us these accursed speeches1 and other1 too1 sorer than these2 when1 in the midst of the darkness of that age1 first began to spring and to give shine some one glimmering beam of truth1 unknown at that time and unheard of3 when also ,martin ,luther and ,hulderic ,zuinglius1 being most excellent men1 even sent of ,god to give light to the whole world1 first came unto the knowledge and preaching of the ,gospel2 whereas yet the thing was but new1 and the success thereof uncertain2 and when men's minds stood doubtful and amazed1 and their ears open to all slanderous tales2 and when there could be imagined against us no fact so detestable1 but the people then would soon believe it for the novelty and strangeness of the matter4 ,for so did ,symmachus1 so did ,celsus1 so did ,julianus1 so did ,porphyrius1 the old foes to the ,gospel1 attempt in times past to accuse all ,christians of sedition and treason1 before that either prince or people were able to know who those ,christians were1 what they professed1 what they believed1 or what was their meaning4 ,but now1 sithence our very enemies do see1 and cannot deny1 but we ever in all our words and writings have diligently put the people in mind of their duty1 to obey their princes and magistrates1 yea1 though they be wicked 7for this doth very trial and experience sufficiently teach1 and all men's eyes1 whosoever and wheresoever they be1 do well enough see and witness for us71 it was a foul part of them to charge us with these things2 yea1 seeing they could find no new and late faults1 therefore to seek to procure us envy only with stale and out worn lies4 ,we give our ,lord ,god thanks1 whose only cause this is1 there hath yet at no time been any such example in all the realms1 dominions1 and commonweals1 which have received the ,gospel4 ,for we have overthrown no kingdom1 we have decayed no man's power or right1 we have disordered no commonwealth4 ,there continue in their own accustomed state and ancient dignity1 the kings of our country of ,england1 the kings of ,denmark1 the kings of ,sweden1 the dukes of ,saxony1 the counts palatine1 the marquesses of ,brandenburg1 the landgraves of ,hesse1 the commonwealth of the ,helvetians and ,rhaetians1 and the free cities1 as ,argentine1 ,basil1 ,frankfort1 ,ulm1 ,augusta1 and ,nuremberg2 do all1 ,i say1 abide in the same authority and estate wherein they have been heretofore1 or rather in a much better1 for that by means of the ,gospel they have their people more obedient unto them4 ,let them go1 ,i pray you1 into those places where at this present through ,god's goodness the ,gospel is taught4 ,where is there more majesty8 ,where is there less arrogancy and tyranny8 ,where be the prince more honoured8 ,where is the people less unruly8 ,where hath there at any time the commonwealth or the ,church been in more quiet8 ,perhaps ye will say1 from the first beginning of this doctrine the common sort everywhere began to rage and to rise throughout ,germany4 ,allow it were so1 yet ,martin ,luther1 the publisher and setter forward of this doctrine1 did write marvellous vehemently and sharply against them1 and reclaimed them1 home to peace and obedience4 ,but whereas it is wont sometime to be objected by persons wanting skill touching the ,helvetians' change of state1 and killing of ,leopoldus the ,duke of ,austria1 and restoring by force their country to liberty1 that was done1 as appeareth plainly by all stories1 for two hundred and threescore years past or above1 under ,boniface the ,eighth1 when the authority of the ,bishop of ,rome was in greatest jollity2 about two hundred years before ,huldericus ,zuinglius either began to teach the ,gospel1 or yet was born3 and ever since that time they have had all things still and quiet1 not only from foreign enemies1 but also from civil dissension4 ,and if it were a sin in the ,helvetians to deliver their own country from foreign government1 specially when they were so proudly and tyrannously oppressed1 yet to burden us with other men's faults1 or them with the faults of their forefathers1 is against all right and reason4 ,but ,o immortal ,god6 and will the ,bishop of ,rome accuse us of treason8 ,will he teach the people to obey and follow their magistrates8 or hath he any regard at all of the majesty of princes8 ,why doth he then1 as none of the old bishops of ,rome heretofore ever did1 suffer himself to be called of his flatterers lord of lords1 as though he would have all kings and princes1 who and whatsoever they are1 to be his underlings8 ,why doth he vaunt himself to be king of kings1 and to have kingly royalty over his subjects8 ,why compelleth he all emperors and princes to swear to him fealty and true obedience8 ,why doth he boast that the emperor's majesty's is a thousandfold inferior to him3 and for this reason specially1 because ,god hath made two lights in heaven1 and because heaven and earth were created not at two beginnings1 but in one8 ,why hath he and his complices 7like ,anabaptists and ,libertines1 to the end they might run on more licentiously and carelessly7 shaken off the yoke1 and exempted themselves from being under a civil power8 ,why hath he his legates 7as much to say as most subtle spies7 lying in wait in all kings' courts1 councils1 and privy chambers8 ,why doth he1 when he list1 set ,christian princes one against another1 and at his own pleasure trouble the whole world with debate and discord8 ,why doth he excommunicate1 and command to be taken as a heathen and a ,pagan any ,christian prince that renounceth his authority8 ,and why promiseth he his indulgences and his pardons so largely to any that will 7what way soever it be7 kill any of his enemies8 ,doth he maintain empires and kingdoms8 or doth he once desire that common quiet should be provided for8 ,you must pardon us1 good reader1 though we seem to utter these things more bitterly and bitingly than it becometh divines to do4 ,for both the shamefulness of the matter1 and the desire of rule in the ,bishop of ,rome is so exceeding and outrageous1 that it could not well be uttered with other words1 or more mildly4 ,for he is not ashamed to say in open assembly1 that all jurisdiction of all kings doth depend upon himself4 ,and to feed his ambition and greediness of rule1 he hath pulled in pieces the empire of ,rome1 and vexed and rent whole ,christendom asunder4 ,falsely and traitorously also did he release the ,romans1 the ,italians1 and himself too1 of the oath whereby they and he were straitly bound to be true to the emperor of ,greece1 and stirred up the emperor's subjects to forsake him3 and calling ,carolus ,martellus out of ,france into ,italy1 made him emperor1 such a thing as never was seen before4 ,he put ,chilpericus1 the ,french king1 being no evil prince1 beside his realm1 only because he fancied him not1 and wrongfully placed ,pipin in his room4 ,again1 after he had cast out ,king ,philip1 if he could have brought it to pass1 he had determined and appointed the kingdom of ,france to ,albertus ,king of ,romans4 ,he utterly destroyed the state of the most nourishing city and commonweal of ,florence1 his own native country1 and brought it out of a free and peaceable state1 to be governed at the pleasure of one man3 he brought to pass by his procurement1 that whole ,savoy on the one side was miserably spoiled by the ,emperor ,charles the ,fifth1 and on the other side by the ,french king1 so as the unfortunate duke had scant one city left him to hide his head in4 ,we are cloyed with examples in this behalf1 and it should be very tedious to reckon up all the notorious deeds of the bishops of ,rome4 ,of which side were they1 ,i beseech you1 which poisoned ,henry the ,emperor even in the receiving of the sacrament8 which poisoned ,victor the ,pope even in the receiving of the chalice8 which poisoned our ,king ,john1 king of ,england1 in a drinking cup8 ,whosoever at least they were and of what sect soever1 ,i am sure they were neither ,lutherans nor ,zuinglians4 ,what is he at this day1 which alloweth the mightiest kings and monarchs of the world to kiss his blessed feet8 ,what is he that commandeth the emperor to go by him at his horse bridle1 and the ,french king to hold his stirrup8 ,who hurled under his table ,francis ,dandalus the duke of ,venice1 king of ,crete and ,cyprus1 fast bound with chains1 to feed of bones among his dogs8 ,who set the imperial crown upon the ,emperor ,henry the ,sixth's head1 not with his hand1 but with his foot2 and with the same foot again cast the same crown off1 saying withal1 he had power to make emperors1 and to unmake them again at his pleasure8 ,who put in arms ,henry the son against the emperor his father ,henry the ,fourth1 and wrought so that the father was taken prisoner of his own son1 and being shorn and shamefully handled1 was thrust into a monastery1 where with hunger and sorrow he pined away to death8 ,who so ill-favouredly and monstrously put the ,emperor ,frederick's neck under his feet1 and1 as though that were not sufficient1 added further this text out of the ,psalms1 ,thou shalt go upon the adder and cockatrice1 and shalt tread the lion and dragon under thy feet8 ,such an example of scorning and contemning a prince's majesty1 as never before that was heard tell of in any remembrance2 except1 ,i ween1 either of ,tamerlane's1 the king of ,scythia1 a wild and barbarous creature1 or else of ,sapor king of the ,persians4 ,all these notwithstanding were ,popes1 all ,peter's successors1 all most holy fathers1 whose several words we must take to be as good as several ,gospels4 ,if we be counted traitors which do honour our princes1 which give them all obedience1 as much as is due to them by ,god's word1 and which do pray for them1 what kind of men then be these1 which have not only done all the things before said1 but also allow the same for specially well done8 ,do they then either this way instruct the people1 as we do1 to reverence their magistrate8 ,or can they with honesty appeach us as seditious persons1 breakers of the common quiet1 and despisers of princes' majesty8 ,truly1 we neither put off the yoke of obedience from us2 neither do we disorder realms2 neither do we set up or pull down kings2 nor translate governments2 nor give our kings poison to drink2 nor yet hold to them our feet to be kissed2 nor1 opprobriously triumphing over them1 leap into their necks with our feet4 ,this rather is our profession2 this is our doctrine3 that every soul1 of what calling soever he be--be he monk1 be he preacher1 be he prophet1 be he ,apostle--ought to be subject to kings and magistrates2 yea1 and that the ,bishop of ,rome himself--unless he will seem greater than ,evangelists1 than the ,prophets1 or the ,apostles--ought both to acknowledge and to call the emperor his lord and master1 which the old ,bishops of ,rome1 who lived in times of more grace1 ever did4 ,our common teaching also is1 that we ought so to obey princes as men sent of ,god2 and that whoso withstandeth them1 withstandeth ,god's ordinance4 ,this is our showing1 and this is well to be seen1 both in our books and in our preachings1 and also in the manners and modest behaviour of our people4 ,but where they say we have gone away from the unity of the ,catholic ,church1 this is not only a matter of malice1 but1 besides1 though1 it be most untrue1 yet hath it some show and appearance of truth4 ,for the common people and ignorant multitude give not credit alone to things true and of certainty1 but even to such things also1 if any chance1 which may seem to have but a resemblance of truth4 ,therefore1 we see that subtle and crafty persons1 when they had no truth on their side1 have ever contended and hotly argued with things likely to be true1 to the intent they which were not able to espy the very ground of the matter1 might be carried away at least with some pretence and probability thereof4 ,in times past1 where the first ,christians1 our forefathers1 in making their prayers to ,god1 did turn themselves towards the east1 there were that said1 they worshipped the sun1 and reckoned it as ,god4 ,again1 where our forefathers said1 that as touching immortal and everlasting life1 they lived by no other means1 but by the flesh and blood of that ,lamb who was without spot1 that is to say1 of our ,saviour ,jesus ,christ1 the envious creatures and foes of ,christ's ,cross1 whose only care was to bring ,christian religion into slander by all manner of ways1 made people believe that they were wicked persons1 that they sacrificed men's flesh1 and drunk men's blood4 ,also1 where our forefathers said that before ,god there is neither man nor woman1 nor1 for attaining to the true righteousness1 there is no distinction at all of persons1 and that they did call one another indifferently by the name of sisters and brothers3 there wanted not men which forged false tales upon the same1 saying that the ,christians made no difference among themselves either of age or of kind1 but like brute beasts without regard had to do one with another4 ,and where1 for to pray and hear the ,gospel1 they met often together in secret and bye places1 because rebels sometime were wont to do the like1 rumours were everywhere spread abroad1 how they made privy confederacies1 and counselled together either to kill the magistrates or to subvert the commonwealth4 ,and where1 in celebrating the holy mysteries after ,christ's institution1 they took bread and wine1 they were thought of many not to worship ,christ1 but ,bacchus and ,ceres2 forsomuch as those vain gods were worshipped of the heathens in like sort1 after a profane superstition1 with bread and wine4 ,these things were believed of many1 not because they were true1 indeed 7for what could be more untrue871 but because they were like to be true1 and through a certain shadow of truth might the more easily deceive the simple4 ,on this fashion likewise do these men slander us as heretics1 and say that we have left the ,church and fellowship of ,christ3 not because they think it is true--for they do not much force of that1 but because to ignorant folk it might1 perhaps1 some way appear true4 ,we have1 indeed1 put ourselves apart not as heretics are wont1 from the ,church of ,christ1 but as all good men ought to do1 from the infection of naughty persons and hypocrites4 ,nevertheless1 in this point they triumph marvellously--that they be the ,church1 that their ,church is ,christ's spouse1 the pillar of truth1 the ark of ,noah2 and that without it there is no hope of salvation4 ,contrariwise they say1 that we be renegades2 that we have torn ,christ's seat2 that we are plucked quite off from the body of ,christ1 and have forsaken the ,catholic faith4 ,and when they leave nothing unspoken that may never so falsely and maliciously be said against us1 yet this one thing are they never able truly to say1 that we have swerved either from the ,word of ,god1 or from the ,apostles of ,christ1 or from the primitive ,church4 ,surely we have ever judged the primitive ,church of ,christ's time1 of the ,apostles and of the holy fathers1 to be the ,catholic ,church2 neither make we doubt to name it1 ,noah's ark1 ,christ's spouse1 the pillar and upholder of all truth2 nor yet to fix therein the whole mean of our salvation4 ,it is doubtless an odious matter for one to leave the fellowship whereunto he hath been accustomed1 and specially of those men1 who1 though they be not1 yet at least seem and be called ,christians4 ,and1 to say truly1 we do not despise the ,church of these men 7howsoever it be ordered by them now-a-days71 partly for the name's sake itself1 and partly for that the ,gospel of ,jesus ,christ hath once been therein truly and purely set forth4 ,neither had we departed therefrom1 but of very necessity1 and much against our wills4 ,but ,i put case1 an idol be set up in the ,church of ,god1 and the same desolation1 which ,christ prophesied to come1 stood openly in the holy place4 ,what if some thief or pirate invade and possess ,noah's ark8 ,these folks1 as often as they tell us of the ,church1 mean thereby themselves alone1 and attribute all these titles to their own selves1 boasting1 as they did in times past which cried1 ,the temple of the ,lord1 the temple of the ,lord2 or as the ,pharisees and ,scribes did1 which craked they were ,abraham's children4 ,thus with a gay and jolly show deceive they the simple1 and seek to choke us with the very name of the ,church4 ,much like as if a thief1 when he had gotten into another man's house1 and by violence either hath thrust out or slain the owner1 should afterward assign the same house to himself1 casting forth of possession the right inheritor2 or if ,anti-,christ1 when he had once entered into the temple of ,god1 should afterward say1 ,this house is mine own1 and ,christ hath nothing to do withal4 ,for these men now1 after they have left nothing remaining in the ,church of ,god that hath any likeness of this ,church1 yet will they seem the patrons and valiant maintainers of the ,church1 very like as ,gracchus amongst the ,romans stood in defence of the treasury1 notwithstanding with his prodigality and fond expenses he had utterly wasted the whole stock of the treasury4 ,and yet was there never anything so wicked1 or so far out of reason1 but lightly it might be covered and defended by the name of the ,church4 ,for the wasps also make honey-combs as well as bees1 and wicked men have companies like to the ,church of ,god3 yet1 for all that1 they be not straightway the people of ,god which are called the people of ,god2 neither be they all ,israelites as many as are come of ,israel the father4 ,the ,arians1 notwithstanding they were heretics1 yet bragged they that they alone were ,catholics1 calling all the rest now ,ambrosians1 now ,athanasians1 now ,johannites4 ,and ,nestorius1 as saith ,theodoret1 for all that he was an heretic1 yet covered he himself ,greek text3 that is1 to wit1 with a certain cloak and colour of the true and right faith4 ,ebion1 though he agreed in opinion with the ,samaritans1 yet1 as saith ,epiphanius1 he would needs be called a ,christian4 ,the ,mahometists at this day1 for all that all histories make plain mention1 and themselves also cannot deny1 but they took their first beginning of ,agar the bond-woman1 yet for the very name and stock's sake1 chose they rather to be called ,saracens1 as though they came of ,sarah the free woman1 and ,abraham's wife4 ,so likewise the false prophets of all ages1 which stood up against the prophets of ,god1 which resisted ,esaias1 ,jeremy1 ,christ1 and the ,apostles1 at no time craked of anything so much as they did of the name of the ,church4 ,and for no other cause did they so fiercely vex them1 and call them runaways and apostates1 than for that they forsook their fellowship1 and kept not the ordinances of the elders4 ,wherefore1 if we would follow the judgments of those men only who then governed the ,church1 and would respect nothing else1 neither ,god nor ,his word1 it must needs be confessed1 that the ,apostles were rightly and by just law condemned of them to death1 because they fell from the bishops and priests1 that is1 you must think1 from the ,catholic ,church3 and because they made many new alterations in religion1 contrary to the bishops' and priests' wills1 yea1 and for all their spurning so earnestly against it4 ,wherefore1 like as it is written that ,hercules in old time was forced in striving with ,antaeus1 that huge giant1 to lift him quite up from the earth that was his mother1 ere he could conquer him1 even so must our adversaries be heaved from their mother1 that is1 from this vain colour and shadow of the ,church1 wherewith they so disguise and defend themselves3 otherwise they cannot be brought to yield unto the word of ,god4 ,and therefore1 saith ,jeremy the prophet1 make not such great boast that the temple of the ,lord is with you4 ,this is but a vain confidence3 these are lies4 ,the angel also saith in the ,apocalypse1 ,they say they be ,jews2 but they be the synagogue of ,satan4 ,and ,christ said to the ,pharisees when they vaunted themselves of the kindred and blood of ,abraham1 ,ye are of your father1 the devil2 for you resemble not your father ,abraham2 as much to say as ye are not the men ye would so fain be called3 ye beguile the people with vain titles1 and abuse the name of the ,church to the overthrowing of the ,church4 ,so that these men's part had been1 first to have clearly and truly proved that the ,romish ,church is the true and right instructed ,church of ,god1 and that the same as they do order it at this day doth agree with the primitive ,church of ,christ1 of the ,apostles1 and of the holy fathers1 which we doubt not but was indeed the true ,catholic ,church4 ,for our parts1 if we could have judged ignorance1 error1 superstition1 idolatry1 men's inventions1 and the same commonly disagreeing with the ,holy ,scriptures1 either to please ,god or to be sufficient for the obtaining everlasting salvation2 or if we could ascertain ourselves1 that the word of ,god was written but for a time only1 and afterward again ought to be abrogated and put away3 or else that the sayings and commandments of ,god ought to be subject to man's will1 that whatsoever ,god saith and commandeth1 except the ,bishop of ,rome willeth and commandeth the same1 it must be taken as void and unspoken3 if we could have brought ourselves to believe these things1 we grant there had been no cause at all why we should have left these men's company4 ,as touching that we have now done to depart from that ,church1 whose errors were proved and made manifest to the world1 which ,church also had already evidently departed from ,god's word3 and yet not to depart so much from itself1 as from the errors thereof2 and not to do this disorderly or wickedly1 but quietly and soberly2 we have done nothing herein against the doctrine either of ,christ or of ,his ,apostles4 ,for neither is the ,church of ,god such as it may not be dusked with some spot1 or asketh not sometime reparation4 ,else what needeth there so many assemblies and councils1 without the which1 as saith ,a,egidius1 the ,christian faith is not able to stand8 ,for look1 saith he3 how often councils are discontinued1 so often is the ,church destitute of ,christ4 ,or if there be no peril that harm may come to the ,church1 what need is there to retain to no purpose the names of bishops1 as is now commonly used among them8 ,for if there be no sheep that may stray1 why be they called shepherds8 ,if there be no city that may be betrayed1 why be they called watchmen8 ,if there be nothing that may run to ruin1 why be they called pillars8 ,anon after the first creation of the world the ,church of ,god began to spread abroad1 and the same was instructed with the heavenly word which ,god ,himself pronounced with ,his own mouth4 ,it was also furnished with ,divine ceremonies4 ,it was taught by the ,spirit of ,god1 by the patriarchs and prophets1 and continued so even till the time that ,christ showed ,himself to us in the flesh4 ,this notwithstanding1 how often1 ,o good ,god1 in the meanwhile1 and how horribly was the same ,church darkened and decayed6 ,where was that ,church then1 when all flesh upon earth had denied their own way8 ,where was it1 when amongst the number of the whole world there were only eight persons 7and they neither all chaste and good7 whom ,god's will was should be saved alive from that universal destruction and mortality8 when ,elie the prophet so lamentably and bitterly made moan1 that only himself was left of all the whole world which did truly and duly worship ,god8 and when ,esay said1 ,the silver of ,god's people 7that is1 of the ,church7 was become dross3 and that the same city1 which aforetime had been faithful1 was now become a harlot3 and that in the same there was no part sound throughout the whole body1 from the head to the foot8 or else1 when ,christ ,himself said1 that the house of ,god was made by the ,pharisees and priests a den of thieves8 ,of a truth1 the ,church1 even as a corn-field1 except it be eared1 manured1 tilled1 and trimmed1 instead of wheat it will bring forth thistles1 darnel1 and nettles4 ,for this cause did ,god send ever among both ,prophets and ,apostles1 and last of all ,his own ,son1 who might bring home the people into the right way1 and repair anew the tottering ,church after she had erred4 ,but lest some man should say1 that the aforesaid things happened in the time of the law only1 of shadows1 and of infancy1 when truth lay hid under figures and ceremonies1 when nothing as yet was brought to perfection1 when the law was not graven in men's hearts1 but in stone3 and yet is that but a foolish saying1 for even at those days was there the very same ,god that is now1 the same ,spirit1 the same ,christ1 the same faith1 the same doctrine1 the same hope1 the same inheritance1 the same league1 and the same efficacy and virtue of ,god's word3 ,eusebius also saith3 ,all the faithful1 even from ,adam until ,christ1 were in very deed ,christians 7though they were not so termed71 but1 as ,i said1 lest men should thus speak still1 ,paul the ,apostle found the like faults and falls even then in the prime and chief of the ,gospel in chief perfection1 and in the light2 so that he was compelled to write in this sort to the ,galatians1 whom he had well before that instructed3 ,i fear me1 quoth he1 lest ,i have laboured among you in vain1 and lest ye have heard the ,gospel in vain4 ,o my little children1 of whom ,i travail anew till ,christ be fashioned again in you4 ,and as for the ,church of the ,corinthians1 how foully it was denied1 is nothing needful to rehearse4 ,now tell me1 might the ,churches of the ,galatians and ,corinthians go amiss1 and the ,church of ,rome alone may not fail1 nor go amiss8 ,surely ,christ prophesied long before of ,his ,church1 that the time should come when desolation should stand in the holy place4 ,and ,paul saith1 that ,antichrist should once set up his own tabernacle and stately seat in the temple of ,god3 and that the time should be1 when men should not away with wholesome doctrine1 but be turned back unto fables and lies1 and that within the very ,church4 ,peter likewise telleth1 how there should be teachers of lies in the ,church of ,christ4 ,daniel the ,prophet1 speaking of the latter times of ,antichrist3 ,truth1 saith he1 in that season shall be thrown under foot1 and trodden upon in the world4 ,and ,christ saith1 how the calamity and confusion of things shall be so exceeding great1 that even the chosen1 if it were possible1 shall be brought into error2 and how all these things shall come to pass1 not amongst ,gentiles and ,turks1 but that they should be in the holy place1 in the temple of ,god1 in the ,church1 and in the company and fellowship of those which profess the name of ,christ4 ,albeit these same warnings alone may suffice a wise man to take heed he do not suffer himself rashly to be deceived with the name of the ,church1 and not to stay to make further inquisition thereof by ,god's word2 yet beside all this1 many fathers also1 many learned and godly men1 have often and carefully complained how all these things have chanced in their lifetime4 ,for even in the midst of that thick mist of darkness1 ,god would yet there should be some1 who1 though they gave not a clear and bright light1 yet should they kindle1 were it but some spark1 which men might espy1 being in the darkness4 ,hilarius1 when things as yet were almost uncorrupt1 and in good ease too3 ,ye are ill deceived1 saith he1 with the love of walls3 ye do ill worship the ,church1 in that ye worship it in houses and buildings3 ye do ill bring in the name of peace under roofs4 ,is there any doubt but ,antichrist will have his seat under the same8 ,i rather reckon hills1 woods1 pools1 marshes1 prisons1 and quagmires1 to be places of more safety3 for in these the prophets1 either abiding of their accord or forced thither by violence1 did prophesy by the ,spirit of ,god4 ,gregory1 as one which perceived and foresaw in his mind the wrack of all things1 wrote thus to ,john1 ,bishop of ,constantinople1 the first of all others that commanded himself to be called by this new name1 the universal bishop of whole ,christ's ,church3 ,if the ,church1 saith he1 shall depend upon one man1 it will at once fall down to the ground4 ,who is he1 that seeth not how this is come to pass long since8 ,for long agone hath the ,bishop of ,rome willed to have the whole ,church depend upon himself alone4 ,wherefore it is no marvel though it be clean fallen down long agone4 ,bernard the abbot1 above four hundred years past1 writeth thus3 ,nothing is now of sincerity and pureness amongst the clergy3 wherefore it resteth1 that the man of sin should be revealed4 ,the same ,bernard1 in his work of the conversion of ,paul2 ,it seemeth now1 saith he1 that persecution hath ceased3 no1 no2 persecution seemeth but now to begin1 even from them which have chief pre-eminence in the ,church4 ,thy friends and neighbours have drawn near1 and stood up against thee3 from the sole of thy foot to the crown of thy head there is no part whole4 ,iniquity is proceeded from the elders1 the judges1 and deputies1 which pretend to rule thy people4 ,we cannot say now1 ,look how the people be1 so is the priest4 ,for the people is not so ill as the priest is4 ,alas1 alas1 ,o ,lord ,god1 the selfsame persons be the chief in persecuting thee1 which seem to love the highest place1 and bear most rule in ,thy ,church6 ,the same ,bernard again1 upon the ,canticles1 writeth thus3 ,all they are thy friends1 yet are they all thy foes3 all thy kinsfolk1 yet are they all thy adversaries4 ,being ,christ's servants1 they serve ,antichrist4 ,behold1 in my rest1 my bitterness is most bitter4 ,roger ,bacon1 also a man of great fame1 after he had in a vehement oration touched to the quick the woeful state of his own time3 ,these so many errors1 saith he1 require and look for ,antichrist4 ,gerson complaineth1 that in his days all the substance and efficacy of sacred divinity was brought unto a glorious contention and ostentation of wits1 and to very sophistry4 ,the friars of ,lyons1 men1 as touching the manner of their life1 not to be misliked1 were wont boldly to affirm1 that the ,romish ,church 7from whence alone all counsel and order was then sought7 was the very same harlot of ,babylon and rout of devils1 whereof is prophesied so plainly in the ,apocalypse4 ,i know well enough the authority of these foresaid persons is but lightly regarded among these men4 ,how then if ,i call forth those for witness1 whom they themselves have used to honour8 ,what if ,i say that ,adrian1 the ,bishop of ,rome1 did frankly confess that all these mischiefs brast out first from the high throne of the ,pope8 ,pighius acknowledgeth herein to be a fault1 that many abuses are brought in1 even into the very mass1 which mass otherwise he would have seem to be a reverend matter4 ,gerson saith1 that through the number of most fond ceremonies1 all the virtue of the ,holy ,ghost1 which ought to have operation in us1 and all true godliness1 is utterly quenched and dead4 ,whole ,greece and ,asia complain1 how the bishops of ,rome1 with the marts of their purgatories and pardons1 have both tormented men's consciences and picked their purses4 ,as touching the tyranny of the bishops of ,rome1 and their barbarous ,persian-like pride1 to leave out others1 whom perchance they reckon for enemies1 because they freely and liberally find fault with their vices1 the same men which have led their life at ,rome in the holy city1 in the face of the most holy father1 who also were able to see all their secrets and at no time departed from the ,catholic faith3 as1 for example1 ,laurentius ,valla1 ,marsilius ,patavinus1 ,francis ,petrarch1 ,hierom ,savonarola1 ,abbot ,joachim1 ,baptist of ,mantua1 and1 before all these1 ,bernard the abbot1 have many a time and much complained of it1 giving the world also sometime to understand that the ,bishop of ,rome himself 7by your leave7 is very ,antichrist4 ,whether they spake it truly or falsely1 let that go4 ,sure ,i am they spake it plainly4 ,neither can any man allege that those authors were ,luther's or ,zuinglius' scholars3 for they were not only certain years1 but also certain ages ere ever ,luther's or ,zuinglius' names were heard of4 ,they well saw that even in their days errors had crept into the ,church1 and wished earnestly they might be amended4 ,and what marvel if the ,church were then carried away with errors in that time1 specially when neither the ,bishop of ,rome1 who then only ruled the roost1 nor almost any other1 either did his duty1 or once understood what was his duty8 for it is hard to be believed1 while they were idle and fast asleep1 that the devil also all that while either fell asleep or else continually lay idle4 ,for how they were occupied in the meantime1 and with what faithfulness they took care of ,god's house1 though we hold our peace1 yet ,i pray you1 let them hear ,bernard their own friend4 ,the bishops1 saith he1 who now have the charge of ,god's ,church1 are not teachers1 but deceivers3 they are not feeders1 but beguilers3 they are not prelates1 but ,pilates4 ,these words spake ,bernard of that bishop who named himself the highest bishop of all1 and of the other bishops likewise which then had the place of government4 ,bernard was no ,lutheran3 ,bernard was no heretic4 ,he had not forsaken the ,catholic ,church3 yet nevertheless he did not let to call the bishops that then were1 deceivers1 beguilers1 and ,pilates4 ,now when the people was openly deceived1 and ,christian men's eyes were craftily bleared1 and when ,pilate sat in judgment-place1 and condemned ,christ and ,christ's members to sword and fire1 ,o good ,lord1 in what case was ,christ's ,church then8 ,but yet tell me1 of so many and so gross errors1 what one have these men at any time reformed8 or what fault have they once acknowledged and confessed8 ,but1 forsomuch as these men avouch the universal possession of the ,catholic ,church to be their own1 and call us heretics1 because we agree not in judgment with them1 let us know1 ,i beseech you1 what proper mark and badge hath that ,church of theirs1 whereby it may be known to be the ,church of ,god4 ,i wiss it is not so hard a matter to find out ,god's ,church1 if a man will seek it earnestly and diligently4 ,for the ,church of ,god is set upon a high and glittering place1 in the top of a hill1 and built upon the foundation of the ,apostles and ,prophets3 ,there1 saith ,augustine1 let us seek the ,church2 there let us try our matters4 ,and1 as he saith again in another place1 the ,church must be showed out of the holy and canonical ,scriptures3 and that which cannot be showed out of them is not the ,church4 ,yet1 for all this1 ,i wot not how1 whether it be for fear1 or for conscience1 or despair of victory1 these men alway abhor and fly the ,word of ,god1 even as the thief flieth the gallows4 ,and no wonder truly4 ,for1 like as men say1 the cantharus by-and-bye perisheth and dieth as soon as it is laid in balm3 notwithstanding balm be otherwise a most sweet-smelling ointment2 even so these men well see their own matter is damned and destroyed in the ,word of ,god1 as if it were in poison4 ,therefore the ,holy ,scriptures1 which our ,saviour ,jesus ,christ did not only use for authority in all ,his speech1 but did also at last seal up the same with ,his own blood1 these men1 to the intent they might with less business drive the people from the same1 as from a thing dangerous and deadly1 have used to call them a bare letter1 uncertain1 unprofitable1 dumb1 killing1 and dead3 which seemeth to us all one as if they should say1 ,the ,scriptures are to no purpose1 or as good as none4 ,hereunto they add a similitude not very agreeable1 how the ,scriptures be like to a nose of wax1 or a shipman's hose3 how they may be fashioned and plied all manner of ways1 and serve all men's turns4 ,woteth not the ,bishop of ,rome1 that these things are spoken by his own minions8 or understandeth he not he hath such champions to fight for him8 ,let him hearken then how holily and how godly one ,hosius writeth of this matter1 a bishop in ,polonia1 as he testifieth of himself2 a man doubtless well spoken and not unlearned1 and a very sharp and stout maintainer of that side4 ,one will marvel1 ,i suppose1 how a good man could either conceive so wickedly or write so despitefully of those words which he knew proceeded from ,god's mouth1 and specially in such sort as he would not have it seem his own private opinion alone1 but the common opinion of all that band4 ,he dissembleth1 ,i grant you indeed1 and hideth what he is1 and setteth forth the matter so1 as though it were not he and his side1 but the ,zuenckfeldian heretics that so did speak4 ,we1 saith he1 will bid away with the same ,scriptures1 whereof we see brought not only divers but also contrary interpretations2 and we will hear ,god speak1 rather than we will resort to the naked elements1 and appoint our salvation to rest in them4 ,it behoveth not a man to be expert in the law and ,scripture1 but to be taught of ,god4 ,it is but lost labour that a man bestoweth in the ,scriptures4 ,for the ,scripture is a creature1 and a certain bare letter4 ,this is ,hosius' saying1 uttered altogether with the same spirit and the same mind wherewith in times past ,montane and ,marcion were moved1 who1 as men report1 used to say1 when with a contempt they rejected the ,holy ,scriptures1 that themselves knew many more and better things than either ,christ or the ,apostles ever knew4 ,what then shall ,i say here1 ,o ye principal posts of religion1 ,o ye arch- governors of ,christ's ,church6 ,is this that your reverence which ye give to ,god's ,word8 ,the ,holy ,scriptures1 which1 ,st4 ,paul saith1 came by the inspiration of ,god1 which ,god did commend by so many miracles1 wherein are the most perfect prints of ,christ's own steps1 which all the holy fathers1 ,apostles1 and ,angels1 which ,christ ,himself the ,son of ,god1 as often as was needful1 did allege for testimony and proof2 will ye1 as though they were unworthy for you to hear1 bid them avaunt away8 ,that is1 will ye enjoin ,god to keep silence1 who speaketh to you most clearly by ,his own mouth in the ,scriptures8 or that ,word1 whereby alone1 as ,paul saith1 we are reconciled to ,god1 and which the prophet ,david saith1 is holy and pure1 and shall last for ever2 will ye call that but a bare and dead letter8 or will ye say that all our labour is lost which is bestowed in that thing which ,christ hath commanded us diligently to search1 and to have evermore before our eyes8 ,and will ye say that ,christ and the ,apostles meant with subtlety to deceive the people when they exhorted them to read the ,holy ,scriptures1 that thereby they might flow in all wisdom and knowledge8 ,no marvel at all though these men despise us and all our doings1 which set so little by ,god ,himself and ,his infallible sayings4 ,yet was it but want of wit in them1 to the intend they might hurt us1 to do so extreme injury to the ,word of ,god4 ,but ,hosius will here make exclamation1 saying we do him wrong1 and that these be not his own words1 but the words of the heretic ,zuenckfeldius4 ,but how then1 if ,zuenckfeldius make exclamation on the other side1 and say1 that the same very words be not his1 but ,hosius' own words8 ,for tell me where hath ,zuenckfeldius ever written them8 or1 if he have written them1 and ,hosius have judged the same to be wicked1 why hath not ,hosius spoken so much as one word to confute them8 ,howsoever the matter goeth1 although ,hosius peradventure will not allow of those words1 yet he doth not disallow the meaning of the words ,for well near in all controversies1 and namely touching the use of the holy communion under both kinds1 although the words of ,christ be plain and evident1 yet doth ,hosius disdainfully reject them1 as no better than cold and dead elements2 and commandeth us to give faith to certain new lessons1 appointed by the ,church1 and to ,i wot not what revelations of the ,holy ,ghost4 ,and ,pighius saith3 ,men ought not to believe1 no not the most clear and manifest words of the ,scriptures1 unless the same be allowed for good by the interpretation and authority of the ,church4 ,and yet1 as though this were too little1 they also burn the ,holy ,scriptures1 as in times past wicked ,king ,aza did1 or as ,antiochus or ,maximinus did1 and are wont to name them heretics' books4 ,and out of doubt1 to see too1 they would fain do as ,herod in old time did in ,jewry1 that he might with more surety keep still his dominion3 who being an ,idumaean born1 and a stranger to the stock and kindred of the ,jews1 and yet coveting much to be taken for a ,jew1 to the end he might establish to him and his posterity the kingdom of that country1 which he had gotten of ,augustus ,caesar1 he commanded all the genealogies and pedigrees to be burnt1 and made out of the way1 so that there should remain no record whereby he might be known to them that came after that he was an alien in blood3 whereas even from ,abraham's time these monuments had been safely kept amongst the ,jews1 and laid up in their treasury2 because in them it might easily and most assuredly be found of what lineage everyone did descend4 ,so 7in good faith7 do these men1 when they would have all their own doings in estimation1 as though they had been delivered to us even from the ,apostles1 or from ,christ ,himself3 to the end there might be found nowhere anything able to convince such their dreams and lies1 either they burn the ,holy ,scriptures1 or else they craftily convey them from the people surely4 ,very rightly and aptly doth ,chrysostom write against these men4 ,heretics1 saith he1 shut up the doors against the truth3 for they know full well1 if the door were open1 the ,church should be none of theirs4 ,theophylact also3 ,god's ,word1 saith he1 is the candle whereby the thief is espied4 ,and ,tertullian saith1 ,the ,holy ,scripture manifestly findeth out the fraud and theft of heretics4 ,for why do they hide1 why do they keep under the ,gospel which ,christ would have preached aloud from the housetop8 ,why whelm they that light under a bushel which ought to stand on a candlestick8 ,why trust they more to the blindness of the unskilful multitude1 and to ignorance1 than to the goodness of their cause8 ,think they their sleights are not already perceived1 and that they can walk now unespied1 as though they had ,gyges' ring1 to go invisibly by1 upon their finger8 ,no1 no4 ,all men see now well and well again1 what good stuff is in that chest of the ,bishop of ,rome's bosom4 ,this thing alone of itself may be an argument sufficient that they work not uprightly and truly4 ,worthily ought that matter seem suspicious which flieth trial1 and is afraid of the light4 ,for he that doeth evil1 as ,christ saith1 seeketh darkness1 and hateth the light4 ,a conscience that knoweth itself clear cometh willingly into open show1 that the works which proceed of ,god may be seen4 ,neither be they so very blind but they see this well enough1 that their own kingdom straightway is at a point if the ,scriptures once have the upper hand3 and that1 like as men say1 the idols of devils in times past1 of whom men in doubtful matters were then wont to receive answers1 were suddenly stricken dumb at the sight of ,christ1 when ,he was born and came into the world3 even so they see that now all their subtle practices will soon fall down headlong upon the sight of the ,gospel4 ,for ,antichrist is not overthrown but by the brightness of ,christ's coming4 ,as for us1 we run not for succour to the fire1 as these men's guise is1 but we run to the ,scriptures2 neither do we reason with the sword1 but with the ,word of ,god3 and therewith1 as saith ,tertullian do we feed our faith2 by it do we stir up our hope1 and strengthen our confidence4 ,for we know that the ,gospel of ,jesus ,christ is the power of ,god unto salvation2 and that therein consisteth eternal life4 ,and as ,paul warneth us1 ,we do not hear1 no1 not an ,angel of ,god coming from ,heaven1 if he go about to pull us from any part of this doctrine4 ,yea1 more than this1 as the holy martyr ,justin speaketh of himself1 we would give no credence to ,god ,himself1 if ,he should teach us any other ,gospel4 ,for where these men bid the ,holy ,scriptures away1 as dumb and fruitless1 and procure us to come to ,god ,himself rather1 who speaketh in the ,church and in councils1 which is to say1 to believe their fancies and opinions2 this way of finding out the truth is very uncertain and exceeding dangerous1 and in manner a fantastical and mad way1 and by no means allowed of the holy fathers4 ,chrysostom saith1 ,there be many oftentimes which boast themselves of the ,holy ,ghost2 but truly whoso speak of their own head do falsely boast they have the ,spirit of ,god4 ,for like as 7saith he7 ,christ denied ,he spake of ,himself1 when ,he spake out of the law and ,prophets1 even so now1 if anything be pressed upon us in the ,name of the ,holy ,ghost1 save the ,gospel1 we ought not to believe it4 ,for as ,christ is the fulfilling of the law and ,prophets1 so is the ,holy ,ghost the fulfilling of the ,gospel4 ,thus far goeth ,chrysostom4 ,,part ,v4 ,but here ,i look they will say1 though they have not the ,scriptures1 yet may chance they have the ancient doctors and the holy fathers with them4 ,for this is a high brag they have ever made1 how that all antiquity and a continual consent of all ages doth make on their side2 and that all our cases be but new1 and yesterday's work1 and until these few late years were never heard of4 ,questionless1 there can nothing be more spitefully spoken against the religion of ,god than to accuse it of novelty1 as a new come up matter4 ,for as there can be no change in ,god ,himself1 so ought there to be no change in ,his religion4 ,yet1 nevertheless1 we wot not by what means1 but we have ever seen it come so to pass from the first beginning of all1 that as often as ,god did give but some light1 and did open ,his truth unto men1 though the truth were not only of greatest antiquity1 but also from everlasting2 yet of wicked men and of the adversaries was it called new-fangled and of late devised4 ,that ungracious and bloodthirsty ,haman1 when he sought to procure the king ,assuerus' displeasure against the ,jews1 this was his accusation to him3 ,thou hast here 7saith he7 a kind of people that useth certain new laws of their own1 but stiff-necked and rebellious against all thy laws4 ,when ,paul also began first to preach and expound the ,gospel at ,athens he was called a tidings-bringer of new gods1 as much to say as of a new religion2 for 7said the ,athenians7 may we not know of thee what new doctrine this is8 ,celsus likewise1 when he of set purpose wrote against ,christ1 to the end he might more scornfully scoff out the ,gospel by the name of novelty3 ,what6 saith he1 hath ,god after so many ages now at last and so late bethought ,himself8 ,eusebius also writeth that ,christian religion from the beginning for very spite was called ,greek text1 that is to say1 new and strange4 ,after like sort1 these men condemn all our matters as strange and new2 but they will have their own1 whatsoever they are1 to be praised as things of long continuance4 ,doing much like to the enchanters and sorcerers now-a-days1 which working with devils1 use to say they have their books and all their holy and hid mysteries from ,athanasius1 ,cyprian1 ,moses1 ,abel1 ,adam1 and from the archangel ,raphael2 because that their cunning1 coming from such patrons and founders1 might be judged the more high and holy4 ,after the same fashion these men1 because they would have their own religion1 which they themselves1 and that not long since1 have brought forth into the world1 to be the more easily and rather accepted of foolish persons1 or of such as cast little whereabouts they or other do go1 they are wont to say they had it from ,augustine1 ,hierom1 ,chrysostom1 from the ,apostles1 and from ,christ ,himself4 ,full well know they that nothing is more in the people's favour1 or better liketh the common sort1 than these names4 ,but how if the things1 which these men are so desirous to have seem new1 be found of greatest antiquity8 ,contrariwise1 how if all the things well-nigh which they so greatly set out with the name of antiquity1 having been well and thoroughly examined1 be at length found to be but new1 and devised of very late8 ,soothly to say1 no man that hath a true and right consideration would think the ,jews' laws and ceremonies to be new1 for all ,haman's accusation4 ,for they were graven in very ancient tables of most antiquity4 ,and although many did take ,christ to have swerved from ,abraham and the old fathers1 and to have brought in a certain new religion in ,his own ,name1 yet answered ,he them directly1 ,if ye believed ,moses1 ye would believe ,me also1 for ,my doctrine is not so new as you make it3 for ,moses1 an author of greatest antiquity1 and one to whom ye give all honour1 hath spoken of ,me4 ,paul likewise1 though the ,gospel of ,jesus ,christ be of many counted to be but new1 yet hath it 7saith he7 the testimony most old both of the law and ,prophets4 ,as for our doctrine which we may rightly call ,christ's catholic doctrine1 it is so far off from new that ,god1 who is above all most ancient1 and the ,father of our ,lord ,jesus ,christ1 hath left the same unto us in the ,gospel1 in the ,prophets' and ,apostles' works1 being monuments of greatest age4 ,so that no man can now think our doctrine to be new1 unless the same think either the ,prophets' faith1 or the ,gospel1 or else ,christ ,himself to be new4 ,and as for their religion1 if it be of so long continuance as they would have men ween it is1 why do they not prove it so by the examples of the primitive ,church1 and by the fathers and councils of old times8 ,why lieth so ancient a cause thus long in the dust destitute of an advocate8 ,fire and sword they have had always ready at hand1 but as for the old councils and the fathers1 all mum--not a word4 ,they did surely against all reason to begin first with these so bloody and extreme means1 if they could have found other more easy and gentle ways4 ,and if they trust so fully to antiquity1 and use no dissimulation1 why did ,john ,clement1 a countryman of ours1 but few years past1 in the presence of certain honest men and of good credit1 tear and cast into the fire certain leaves of ,theodoret--the most ancient father and a ,greek bishop--wherein he plainly and evidently taught that the nature of bread in the ,communion was not changed1 abolished1 or brought to nothing8 ,and this did he of purpose1 because he thought there was no other copy thereof to be found4 ,why saith ,albertus ,pighius that the ancient father ,augustine had a wrong opinion of original sin8 and that he erred and lied and used false logic1 as touching the case of matrimony concluded after a vow made1 which ,augustine affirmeth to be perfect matrimony1 indeed1 and cannot be undone again8 ,also when they did of late put in print the ancient father ,origen's work upon the ,gospel of ,john1 why left they quite out the whole sixth chapter8 ,wherein it is likely1 yea1 rather1 of very surety1 that the said ,origen had written many things concerning the sacrament of the ,holy ,communion contrary to these men's minds2 and would put forth that book mangled rather than full and perfect1 for fear it should reprove them and their partners of their error4 ,call ye this trusting to antiquity1 when ye rent in pieces1 keep back1 maim1 and burn the ancient fathers' works8 ,it is a world to see1 how well-favouredly and how towardly touching religion these men agree with the fathers of whom they use to vaunt that they be their own good4 ,the old ,council ,eliberine made a decree that nothing that is honoured of the people should be painted in the churches4 ,the old father ,epiphanius saith3--,it is a horrible wickedness1 and a sin not to be suffered1 for any man to set up any picture in the ,church of the ,christians1 yea1 though it were the picture of ,christ ,himself4 ,yet1 these men store all their temples1 and each corner of them1 with painted and carved images1 as though without them religion were nothing worth4 ,the old fathers ,origen and ,chrysostom exhort the people to read the ,scriptures1 to buy them books1 to reason at home betwixt themselves of divine matters--wives with their husbands1 and parents with their children4 ,these men condemn the ,scriptures as dead elements1 and--as much as ever they may--bar the people from them4 ,the ancient fathers1 ,cyprian1 ,epiphanius1 and ,hierom1 say1 for one who1 perchance1 hath made a vow to lead a sole life1 and afterwards liveth unchastely1 and cannot quench the flames of lust1 it is better to marry a wife1 and to live honestly in wedlock4 ,and the old father ,augustine judgeth the selfsame marriage to be good and perfect1 and that it ought not to be broken again4 ,these men1 if a man have once bound himself by a vow1 though afterwards he burn1 keep queans1 and defile himself with never so sinful and desperate a life1 yet they suffer not that person to marry a wife2 or if he chance to marry1 they allow it not for marriage4 ,and they commonly teach it is much better and more godly to keep a concubine and harlot1 than to live in that kind of marriage4 ,the old father ,augustine complained of the multitude of ceremonies1 wherewith he even then saw men's minds and consciences overcharged4 ,these men1 as though ,god regarded nothing else but their ceremonies1 have so out of measure increased them1 that there is now almost none other thing left in their churches and places of prayer4 ,again1 that old father ,augustine denieth it to be lawful for a monk to spend his time slothfully and idly1 and1 under a pretended and counterfeit holiness1 to live all upon others4 ,and whoso thus liveth1 the old father ,apollonius likeneth him to a thief4 ,these men have1 ,i wot not whether to name them droves or herds of monks1 who for all they do nothing1 nor yet once intend to bear any show of holiness1 yet live they not only upon others1 but also riot lavishly of other folks' labours4 ,the old council of ,rome decreed that no man should come to the service said by a priest well known to keep a concubine4 ,these men let to farm concubines to their priests1 and yet constrain men by force against their will to hear their cursed paltry service4 ,the old canons of the ,apostles command that bishop to be removed from his office1 which will both supply the place of a civil magistrate1 and also of an ecclesiastical person4 ,these men1 for all that1 both do and will needs serve both places4 ,nay1 rather1 the one office which they ought chiefly to execute1 they once touch not1 and yet nobody commandeth them to be displaced4 ,the old ,council ,gangrense commandeth that none should make such difference between an unmarried priest and a married priest1 as he ought to think the one more holy than the other for single life's sake4 ,these men put such a difference between them1 that they straightway think all their holy service to be defiled if it be done by a good and honest man that hath a wife4 ,the ancient emperor ,justinian commanded that1 in the holy administration1 all things should be pronounced with a clear1 loud1 and treatable voice1 that the people might receive some fruit thereby4 ,these men1 lest the people should understand them1 mumble up all their service1 not only with a drowned and hollow voice1 but also in a strange and barbarous tongue4 ,the old council at ,carthage commanded that nothing should be read in ,christ's congregation but the canonical ,scriptures4 ,these men read such things in their churches as themselves know of a truth to be stark lies and fond fables4 ,but if there be any that think these above-rehearsed authorities be but weak and slender1 because they were decreed by emperors and certain petit bishops1 and not by so full and perfect councils1 taking pleasure rather in the authority and name of the ,pope1 let such a one know that ,pope ,julius doth evidently forbid that the priest1 in ministering the ,communion1 should dip the bread in the cup4 ,these men1 contrary to ,pope ,julius' decree1 divide the bread1 and dip it in the wine4 ,pope ,clement saith it is not lawful for a bishop to deal with both swords3 ,for if thou wilt have both1 said he1 thou shalt deceive both thyself and those that obey thee4 ,nowadays1 the ,pope challengeth to himself both swords1 and useth both4 ,wherefore1 it ought to seem less marvel if that have followed which ,clement saith1 that is1 that he hath deceived both his own self and those which have given ear unto him4 ,pope ,leo saith1 ,upon one day it is lawful to say but one mass in one church4 ,these men say daily in one church commonly ten masses1 twenty1 thirty1 yea1 oftentimes more4 ,so that the poor gazer on can scant tell which way he were best to turn him4 ,pope ,gelasius saith1 ,it is a wicked deed and sibb to sacrilege in any man to divide the ,communion1 and when he hath received one kind to abstain from the other4 ,these men1 contrary to ,god's ,word1 and contrary to ,pope ,gelasius1 command that one kind only of the ,holy ,communion be given to the people1 and by so doing they make their priests guilty of sacrilege4 ,but if they will say that all these things are worn out of ure and nigh dead1 and pertain nothing to these present times1 yet to the end all folk may understand what faith is to be given to these men1 and upon what hope they call together their general councils1 let us see in few words what good heed they take to the selfsame thing1 which they themselves these very last years 7and the remembrance thereof is yet new and fresh71 in their own general council that they had by order called1 have decreed and commanded to be devoutly kept4 ,in the last council at ,trent1 scant fourteen years past1 it was ordained by the common consent of all degrees1 that one man should not have two benefices at one time4 ,what is become now of that ordinance8 ,is the same too soon worn out of mind1 and clean consumed8 ,for these men1 ye see1 give to one man not two benefices only1 but sundry abbeys many times1 sometimes also two bishoprics1 sometimes three1 sometimes four4 ,and that not only to an unlearned man1 but oftentimes also even to a man of war4 ,in the said council a decree was made that all bishops should preach the ,gospel4 ,these men neither preach nor once go up into the pulpit1 neither think they it any part of their office4 ,what great pomp and crake then is this they make of antiquity8 ,why brag they so of the names of the ancient fathers1 and of the new and old councils8 ,why will they seem to trust to their authority whom when they list they despise at their pleasure8 ,but ,i have a special fancy to commune a word or two rather with the ,pope's good holiness1 and to say these things to his own face4 ,tell us1 ,i pray you1 good holy father1 seeing ye do crake so much of all antiquity1 and boast yourself that all men are bound to you alone1 which of all the fathers hath at any time called you by the name of the highest prelate1 the universal bishop1 or the head of the ,church8 ,which of them ever said that both the swords were committed unto you8 ,which of them ever said that you have authority and right to call councils8 ,which of them ever said the whole world is but your diocese8 ,which of them that all bishops have received of your fulness8 ,which of them that all power is given to you as well in heaven as in earth8 ,which of them that neither kings1 nor the whole clergy1 nor yet all the people together1 are able to be judges over you8 ,which of them that kings and emperors1 by ,christ's commandment and will1 do receive authority at your hands8 ,which of them with so precise and mathematical limitation hath surveyed and determined you to be seventy and seven times greater than the mightiest kings8 ,which of them that more ample authority is given to you than to the residue of the patriarchs8 ,which of them that you are the ,lord ,god8 or that you are not a mere natural man1 but a certain substance made and grown together of ,god and man8 ,which of them that you are the only headspring of all laws8 ,which of them that you have power over purgatories8 ,which of them that you are able to command the angels of ,god as you list yourself8 ,which of them that ever said that you are lord of lords and the king of kings8 ,we can also go further with you in like sort4 ,what one amongst the whole number of the old bishops and fathers ever taught you either to say private mass while the people stared on1 or to lift up the ,sacrament over your head 7in which point consisteth now all your religion71 or else to mangle ,christ's ,sacraments1 and to bereave the people of the one part1 contrary to ,christ's institution and plain express words8 ,but that we may once come to an end1 what one is there of all the fathers which hath taught you to distribute ,christ's blood and the holy martyrs' merits1 and to sell openly as merchandises your pardons and all the rooms and lodgings of purgatory8 ,these men are wont to speak much of a certain secret doctrine of theirs1 and of their manifold and sundry readings4 ,then let them bring forth somewhat now1 if they can1 that it may appear they have at least read or do know somewhat4 ,they have often stoutly noised in all corners where they went how all the parts of their religion be very old1 and have been approved not only of the multitude1 but also by the consent and continual observation of all nations and times4 ,let them1 therefore1 once in their life show this their antiquity4 ,let them make appear at eye that the things whereof they make such ado have taken so long and large increase4 ,let them declare that all ,christian nations have agreed by consent to this their religion4 ,nay1 nay1 they turn their backs1 as we have said already1 and flee from their own decrees1 and have cut off and abolished again within a short space the same things which1 but a few years before1 themselves had established for evermore1 forsooth1 to continue4 ,how should one1 then1 trust them in the fathers1 in the old councils1 and in the words spoken by ,god8 ,they have not1 good ,lord1 they have not1 ,i say1 those things which they boast they have3 they have not that antiquity1 they have not that universality1 they have not that consent of all places1 nor of all times4 ,and though they have a desire rather to dissemble1 yet they themselves are not ignorant hereof3 yea1 and sometime also they let not to confess it openly4 ,and for this cause they say that the ordinances of the old councils and fathers be such as may now and then be altered1 and that sundry and divers decrees serve for sundry and divers times of the ,church4 ,thus lurk they under the name of the ,church1 and beguile silly creatures with their vain glozing4 ,it is to be marvelled that either men be so blind that they cannot see this1 or if they see it1 to be so patient as they can lightly and quietly bear it4 ,but1 whereas they have commanded that those decrees should be void1 as things now waxen too old1 and that have lost their grace1 perhaps they have provided in their stead certain other better things1 and more profitable for the people4 ,for it is a common saying with them that1 if ,christ ,himself or the ,apostles were alive again1 they could not better nor godlier govern ,god's ,church than it is at this present governed by them4 ,they have put in their stead indeed2 but it is chaff instead of wheat1 as ,hieremy saith1 and such things as1 according to ,esay's words1 ,god never required at their hands4 ,they have stopped up1 saith he1 all the veins of clear springing water1 and have digged up for the people deceivable and puddle-like pits1 full of mire and filth1 which neither have nor are able to hold pure water4 ,they have plucked away from the people the ,holy ,communion1 the ,word of ,god1 from whence all comfort should be taken2 the true worshipping of ,god also1 and the right use of sacraments and prayer2 and have given us of their own to play withal in the meanwhile1 salt1 water1 oil1 boxes1 spittle1 palms1 bulls1 jubilees1 pardons1 crosses1 censings1 and an endless rabble of ceremonies1 and1 as a man might term with ,plautus1 pretty games to make sport withal4 ,in these things have they set all their religion1 teaching the people that by these ,god may be duly pacified1 spirits be driven away1 and men's consciences well quieted4 ,for these1 lo1 be the orient colours and precious savours of ,christian religion2 these things doth ,god look upon and accepteth them thankfully2 these must come in place to be honoured1 and put quite away the institutions of ,christ and of ,his ,apostles4 ,and like as in times past1 when wicked ,king ,jeroboam had taken from the people the right serving of ,god1 and brought them to worship the golden calves1 lest perchance they might afterward change their mind and slip away1 getting them again to ,jerusalem to the temple of ,god1 there he exhorted them with a long tale to be steadfast1 saying thus unto them3 ,o ,israel1 these calves be thy gods4 ,in this sort commanded your ,god you should worship ,him1 for it should be wearisome and troublous for you to take upon you a journey so far off1 and yearly to go up to ,jerusalem1 there to serve and honour your ,god4 ,even after the same sort every whit1 when these men had once made the law of ,god of non- effect through their own traditions1 fearing that the people should afterward open their eyes and fall another way1 and should somewhence else seek a surer mean of their salvation1 ,jesu1 how often have they cried out1 ,this is the same worshipping that pleaseth ,god1 and which ,he straitly requireth of us1 and wherewith ,he will be turned from ,his wrath4 ,that by these things is conserved the unity of the ,church4 ,by these all sins be cleansed1 and consciences quieted1 and that whoso departeth from these hath left unto himself no hope of everlasting salvation4 ,for it were wearisome and troublous1 say they1 for the people to resort to ,christ1 to the ,apostles1 and to the ancient fathers1 and to observe continually what their will and commandment should be4 ,this ye may see1 is to withdraw the people of ,god from the weak elements of the world1 from the leaven of the ,scribes and ,pharisees1 and from the traditions of men4 ,it were reason1 no doubt1 that ,christ's commandments and the ,apostles' were removed1 that these their devices might come in place4 ,o just cause1 ,i promise you1 why that ancient and so long allowed doctrine should be now abolished1 and a new form of religion be brought into the ,church of ,god4 ,and yet whatever it be1 these men cry still that nothing ought to be changed3 that men's minds are well satisfied herewithal3 that the ,church of ,rome1 the ,church which cannot err1 hath decreed these things4 ,for ,silvester ,prierias saith1 that the ,romish ,church is the squire and rule of truth1 and that the ,holy ,scripture hath received from thence authority and credit4 ,the doctrine1 saith he1 of the ,romish ,church is the rule of most infallible faith1 from the which the ,holy ,scripture taketh his force4 ,and indulgences and pardons1 saith he1 are not made known to us by the authority of the ,scriptures1 but they are made known to us by the authority of the ,romish ,church1 and of the ,bishops of ,rome1 which is greater4 ,pighius also letteth not to say1 that without the license of the ,romish ,church1 we ought not to believe the very plain ,scriptures4 ,much like as if any of those that cannot speak pure and clean ,latin1 and yet can babble out quickly and readily a little some such law ,latin as serveth the court1 would needs hold that all others ought also to speak after the same way which ,mammetrectus and ,catholicon spake many years ago1 and which themselves do yet use in pleading in court3 for so may it be understood sufficiently what is said1 and men's desires be satisfied3 and that it is a fondness now in the latter end to trouble the world with a new kind of speaking1 and to call again the old finesse and eloquence that ,cicero and ,caesar used in their days in the ,latin tongue4 ,so much are these men beholden to the folly and darkness of the former times4 ,many things1 as one writeth1 are had in estimation oftentimes1 because they have been once dedicate to the temples of the heathen gods4 ,even so we see at this day many things allowed and highly set by of these men1 not because they judge them so much worth1 but only because they have been received into a custom1 and after a sort dedicate to the temple of ,god4 ,our ,church1 say they1 cannot err4 ,they speak that1 ,i think1 as the ,lacedaemonians long since used to say1 that it was not possible to find any adulterer in all their commonwealth3 whereas indeed they were rather all adulterers1 and had no certainty in their marriages1 but had their wives common amongst them all3 or as the canonists at this day1 for their bellies' sake1 used to say of the ,pope1 that forsomuch as he is lord of all benefices1 though he sell for money bishoprics1 monasteries1 priesthood1 spiritual promotions1 and part with nothing freely1 yet1 because he counteth all his own1 he cannot commit simony1 though he would never so fain4 ,but how strongly and agreeably to reason these things be spoken1 we are not as yet able to perceive1 except perchance these men have plucked off the wings from the truth2 as the ,romans in old time did prune and pinion their goddess ,victoria1 after they had once gotten her home1 to the end that with the same wings she should never more be able to flee away from them again4 ,but what if ,jeremy tell them1 as is afore rehearsed1 that these be lies8 ,what if the same prophet say in another place that the selfsame men1 who ought to be keepers of the vineyard1 have brought to nought and destroyed the ,lord's vineyard8 ,how if ,christ say that the same persons1 who chiefly ought to have care over the temple1 have made of the ,lord's temple a den of thieves8 ,if it be so that the ,church of ,rome cannot err1 it must needs follow1 that the good luck thereof is far greater than all these men's policy4 ,for such is their life1 their doctrine1 and their diligence1 that for all them the ,church may not only err1 but also utterly be spoiled and perish4 ,no doubt1 if that church may err which hath departed from ,god's words1 from ,christ's commandments1 from the ,apostles' ordinances1 from the primitive ,church's examples1 from the old fathers' and councils' orders1 and from their own decrees1 and which will be bound within the compass of none1 neither old nor new1 nor their own nor other folks'1 nor man's law nor ,god's law1 then it is out of all question that the ,romish ,church hath not only had power to err1 but also that it hath shamefully and most wickedly erred in very deed4 ,but1 say they1 ye have been of our fellowship1 but now ye are become forsakers of your profession1 and have departed from us4 ,it is true2 we have departed from them1 and for so doing we both give thanks to ,almighty ,god1 and greatly rejoice on our own behalf4 ,but yet for all this1 from the primitive ,church1 from the ,apostles1 and from ,christ we have not departed4 ,true it is1 we were brought up with these men in darkness1 and in the lack of the knowledge of ,god1 as ,moses was taught up in the learning and in the bosom of the ,egyptians4 ,we have been of your company1 saith ,tertullian1 ,i confess it1 and no marvel at all2 for1 saith he1 men be made and not born ,christians4 ,but wherefore1 ,i pray you1 have they themselves1 the citizens and dwellers of ,rome1 removed and come down from those seven hills1 whereupon ,rome sometime stood1 to dwell rather in the plain called ,mars' field8 they will say1 peradventure1 because the conduits of water1 wherewithout men cannot commodiously live1 have now failed and are dried up in those hills4 ,well1 then1 let them give us like leave in seeking the water of eternal life1 that they give themselves in seeking the water of the well4 ,for the water1 verily1 failed amongst them4 ,the elders of the ,jews1 saith ,jeremy1 sent their little ones to the waterings2 and they finding no water1 being in a miserable case1 and utterly marred for thirst1 brought home again their vessels empty4 ,the needy and poor folk1 saith ,esay1 sought about for water1 but nowhere found they any2 their tongue was even withered for thirst4 ,even so these men have broken in pieces all the pipes and conduits3 they have stopped up all the springs1 and choked up the fountain of living water with dirt and mire4 ,and as ,caligula many years past locked up fast all the storehouses of corn in ,rome1 and thereby brought a general dearth and famine amongst the people2 even so these men1 by damming up all the fountains of ,god's ,word1 have brought the people into a pitiful thirst4 ,they have brought into the world1 as saith the prophet ,amos1 a hunger and a thirst3 not the hunger of bread1 nor the thirst of water1 but of hearing the ,word of ,god4 ,with great distress went they scattering about1 seeking some spark of heavenly life to refresh their consciences withal3 but that light was already thoroughly quenched out1 so that they could find none4 ,this was a rueful state2 this was a lamentable form of ,god's ,church4 ,it was a misery to live therein1 without the ,gospel1 without light1 and without all comfort4 ,wherefore1 though our departing were a trouble to them1 yet ought they to consider withal how just cause we had of our departure4 ,for if they will say1 it is in nowise lawful for one to leave the fellowship wherein he hath been brought up1 they may as well in our names1 and upon our heads1 condemn both the ,prophets1 the ,apostles1 and ,christ ,himself4 ,for why complain they not also of this1 that ,lot went quite his way out of ,sodom1 ,abraham out of ,chaldea1 the ,israelites out of ,egypt1 ,christ from the ,jews1 and ,paul from the ,pharisees8 ,for except it be possible there may be a lawful cause of departing1 we see no reason why ,lot1 ,abraham1 the ,israelites1 ,christ1 and ,paul1 may not be accused of sects and sedition1 as well as others4 ,and if these men will needs condemn us for heretics1 because we do not all things at their commandment1 whom1 in ,god's name1 or what kind of men ought they themselves to be taken for1 which despise the commandment of ,christ1 and of the ,apostles8 ,if we be schismatics because we have left them1 by what name1 then1 shall they be called themselves1 which have forsaken the ,greeks1 from whom they first received their faith1 forsaken the primitive ,church1 forsaken ,christ ,himself1 and the ,apostles1 even as if children should forsake their parents8 ,for though those ,greeks1 who at this day profess religion1 and ,christ's ,name1 have many things corrupted amongst them1 yet hold they still a great number of those things which they received from the ,apostles4 ,they have neither private masses1 nor mangled sacraments1 nor purgatories1 nor pardons4 ,and as for the titles of high bishops1 and those glorious names1 they esteem them so1 as whosoever he were that would take upon him the same1 and would be called either universal bishop1 or the head of the universal ,church1 they make no doubt to call such a one both a passing proud man1 a man that worketh despite against all the other bishops his brethren1 and a plain heretic4 ,now1 then1 since it is manifest1 and out of all peradventure1 that these men have fallen from the ,greeks of whom they received the ,gospel1 of whom they received the faith1 the true religion and the ,church2 what is the matter1 why they will not now be called home again to the same men1 as it were to their originals and first founders8 ,and why be they afraid to take a pattern of the ,apostles' and old fathers' times1 as though they all had been void of understanding8 ,do these men1 ween ye1 see more1 or set more by the ,church of ,god than they did who first delivered us these things8 ,we truly have renounced that ,church1 wherein we could neither have the ,word of ,god sincerely taught1 nor the sacraments rightly administered1 nor the ,name of ,god duly called upon3 which ,church also themselves confess to be faulty in many points2 and wherein was nothing able to stay any wise man1 or one that hath consideration of his own safety4 ,to conclude1 we have forsaken the ,church as it is now1 not as it was in old times past1 and have so gone from it as ,daniel went out of the lions' den1 and the three children out of the furnace3 and to say the truth1 we have been cast out by these men 7being cursed of them as they used to say1 with book1 bell1 and candle71 rather than have gone away from them of ourselves4 ,and we are come to that ,church1 wherein they themselves cannot deny 7if they will say truly1 and as they think in their own conscience7 but all things be governed purely and reverently1 and1 as much as we possibly could1 very near to the order used in the old times4 ,let them compare our churches and theirs together1 and they shall see that themselves have most shamefully gone from the ,apostles1 and we most justly have gone from them4 ,for we1 following the example of ,christ1 of the ,apostles1 and the ,holy fathers1 give the people the ,holy ,communion1 whole and perfect2 but these men1 contrary to all the fathers1 to all the ,apostles1 and contrary to ,christ ,himself1 do sever the ,sacraments1 and pluck away the one part from the people1 and that with most notorious sacrilege1 as ,gelasius termeth it4 ,we have brought again the ,lord's ,supper unto ,christ's institution1 and have made it to be a communion in very deed1 common and indifferent to a great number1 according to the name4 ,but these men have changed all things contrary to ,christ's institution1 and have made a private mass of the ,holy ,communion4 ,and so it cometh to pass that we give the ,lord's ,supper unto the people1 and they give them a vain pageant to gaze upon4 ,we affirm1 together with the ancient fathers1 that the body of ,christ is not eaten but of the good and faithful1 and of those that are endued with the ,spirit of ,christ4 ,their doctrine is1 that ,christ's very body effectually1 and as they speak really and substantially1 may not only be eaten of the wicked and unfaithful men1 but also 7which is monstrous to be spoken7 of mice and dogs4 ,we use to pray in our churches after that fashion1 as1 according to ,paul's lesson1 the people may know what we pray1 and may answer ,amen with a general consent4 ,these men1 like sounding metal1 yell out in the churches unknown and strange words without understanding1 without knowledge1 and without devotion2 yea1 and do it of purpose because the people should understand nothing at all4 ,but not to tarry about rehearsing all points wherein we and they differ--for they have well-nigh no end--we turn the ,scriptures into all tongues2 they scant suffer them to be had abroad in any tongue4 ,we allure the people to read and to hear ,god's ,word3 they drive the people from it4 ,we desire to have our cause known to all the world2 they flee to come to any trial4 ,we lean unto knowledge1 they unto ignorance4 ,we trust unto light1 they unto darkness4 ,we reverence1 as it becometh us1 the writings of the ,apostles and ,prophets2 and they burnt them4 ,finally1 we in ,god's cause desire to stand to ,god's only judgment2 they will stand only to their own4 ,wherefore1 if they will weigh all these things with a quiet mind1 and fully bent to hear and to learn1 they will not only allow this determination of ours1 who have forsaken errors1 and followed ,christ and ,his ,apostles1 but themselves also will forsake their own selves1 and join of their own accord to our side4 ,,part ,,vi4 ,but peradventure they will say1 it was treason to attempt these matters without a sacred general council2 for in that consisteth the whole force of the ,church2 there ,christ hath promised ,he will ever be a present assistant4 ,yet they themselves1 without tarrying for any general council1 have broken the commandments of ,god1 and the decrees of the ,apostles2 and1 as we said a little above1 they have spoiled and disannulled almost all1 not only ordinances1 but even the doctrine of the primitive ,church4 ,and where they say it is not lawful to make a change without a council1 what was he that gave us these laws1 or from whence had they this injunction8 ,truly1 ,king ,agesilaus did but fondly1 who1 when he had a determinate answer made him of the opinion and will of mighty ,jupiter1 would afterward bring the whole matter before ,apollo1 to know whether he would allow thereof1 as his father ,jupiter did1 or no4 ,but yet should we do much more fondly1 when we hear ,god ,himself plainly speak to us in ,his most ,holy ,scriptures1 and may understand by them ,his will and meaning1 if we would afterward 7as though this were of none effect7 bring our whole cause to be tried by a council2 which were nothing else but to ask whether men would allow as ,god did1 and whether men would confirm ,god's commandment by their authority4 ,why1 ,i beseech you1 except a council will and command1 shall not truth be truth1 and ,god be ,god8 ,if ,christ had meant to do so from the beginning1 as that ,he would preach or teach nothing without the bishop's consent1 but refer all ,his doctrine over to ,annas and ,caiaphas1 where should now have been the ,christian faith8 or1 who at any time should have heard the ,gospel taught8 ,peter verily1 whom the ,pope hath oftener in his mouth1 and more reverently useth to speak of than he doth of ,jesus ,christ1 did boldly stand against the holy council1 saying1 ,it is better to obey ,god than men4 ,and after ,paul had once entirely embraced the ,gospel1 and had received it1 not from men1 nor by man1 but by the only will of ,god1 he did not take advice therein of flesh and blood1 nor brought the case before his kinsmen and brethren1 but went forthwith into ,arabia1 to preach ,god's ,divine mysteries by ,god's only authority4 ,yet truly1 we do not despise councils1 assemblies1 and conference of bishops and learned men2 neither have we done that we have done altogether without bishops or without a council4 ,the matter hath been treated in open ,parliament with long consultation1 and before a notable synod and convocation4 ,but touching this council which is now summoned by the ,pope ,pius1 wherein men so lightly are condemned1 which have been neither called1 heard1 nor seen1 it is easy to guess what we may look for or hope of it4 ,in times past1 when ,nazianzen saw in his days how men in such assemblies were so blind and wilful that they were carried with affections1 and laboured more to get the victory than the truth1 he pronounced openly that he never had seen any good end of any council4 ,what would he say now1 if he were alive at this day1 and understood the heaving and shoving of these men8 ,for at that time1 though the matter were laboured on all sides1 yet the controversies were well heard1 and open error was put clean away by the general voice of all parts4 ,but these men will neither have the case to be freely disputed1 nor yet1 how many errors soever there be1 suffer they any to be changed4 ,for it is a common custom of theirs often and shamelessly to boast that their ,church cannot err2 that in it there is no fault2 and that they must give place to us in nothing4 ,or if there be any fault1 yet must it be tried by bishops and abbots only1 because they be the directors and rulers of matters2 and they be the ,church of ,god4 ,aristotle saith that a city cannot consist of bastards2 but whether the ,church of ,god may consist of these men1 let their own selves consider4 ,for doubtless neither be the abbots legitimate abbots1 nor the bishops natural right bishops4 ,but grant they be the ,church3 let them be heard speak in councils2 let them alone have authority to give assent3 yet in old time1 when the ,church of ,god 7if ye will compare it with their ,church7 was very well governed1 both elders and deacons1 as saith ,cyprian1 and certain also of the common people1 were called thereunto1 and made acquainted with ecclesiastical matters4 ,but ,i put case1 these abbots and bishops have no knowledge3 what if they understand nothing what religion is1 nor how we ought to think of ,god8 ,i put case1 the pronouncing and ministering of the law be decayed in priests1 and good counsel fail in the elders1 and1 as the prophet ,micah saith1 ,the night be unto them instead of a vision1 and darkness instead of prophesying3 or1 as ,esaias saith1 ,what if all the watchmen of the city are become blind8 ,what if the salt have lost his proper strength and savoriness1 and1 as ,christ saith1 be good for no use1 scant worth the casting on the dunghill8 ,well1 yet then they will bring all matters before the ,pope1 who cannot err4 ,to this ,i say1 first1 it is a madness to think that the ,holy ,ghost taketh ,his flight from a general council to run to ,rome1 to the end if ,he doubt or stick in any matter1 and cannot expound it of ,himself1 ,he may take counsel of some other spirit1 ,i wot not what1 that is better learned than ,himself4 ,for if this be true1 what needed so many bishops1 with so great charges and so far journeys1 have assembled their convocation at this present at ,trident8 ,it had been more wisdom and better1 at least it had been a much nearer way and handsomer1 to have brought all things rather before the ,pope1 and to have come straight forth1 and have asked counsel at his divine breast4 ,secondly1 it is also an unlawful dealing to toss our matter from so many bishops and abbots1 and to bring it at last to the trial of one only man1 specially of him who himself is appeached by us of heinous and foul enormities1 and hath not yet put in his answer2 who hath also aforehand condemned us without judgment by order pronounced1 and ere ever we were called to be judged4 ,how say ye1 do we devise these tales8 ,is not this the course of the councils in these days8 ,are not all things removed from the whole holy council1 and brought before the ,pope alone8 that1 as though nothing had been done to purpose by the judgments and consents of such a number1 he alone may add1 alter1 diminish1 disannul1 allow1 remit1 and qualify whatsoever he list8 ,whose words be these1 then8 and why have the bishops and abbots1 in the last council of ,trident1 but of late concluded with saying thus in the end3 ,saving always the authority of the see apostolic in all things8 or why doth ,pope ,paschal write so proudly of himself8 ,as though1 saith he1 there were any general council able to prescribe a law to the ,church of ,rome3 whereas all councils both have been made and have received their force and strength by the ,church of ,rome's authority2 and in ordinances made by councils1 is ever plainly excepted the authority of the ,bishop of ,rome4 ,if they will have these things allowed for good1 why be councils called8 ,but if they command them to be void1 why are they left in their books as things allowable8 ,but be it so3 let the ,bishop of ,rome alone be above all councils1 that is to say1 let some one part be greater than the whole2 let him be of greater power1 let him be of more wisdom than all his2 and1 in spite of ,hierom's head1 let the authority of one city be greater than the authority of the whole world4 ,how1 then1 if the ,pope have seen none of these things1 and have never read either the ,scriptures1 or the old ,fathers1 or yet his own councils8 ,how if he favour the ,arians1 as once ,pope ,liberius did8 or have a wicked and a detestable opinion of the life to come1 and of the immortality of the soul1 as ,pope ,john had but few years since8 or1 to increase his own dignity1 do corrupt other councils1 as ,pope ,zosimus corrupted the council holden at ,nice in times past2 and do say that those things were devised and appointed by the holy ,fathers which never once came into their thought2 and1 to have the full sway of authority1 do wrest the ,scriptures1 which1 as ,camotensis saith1 is an usual custom with the ,popes8 ,how if he have renounced the faith of ,christ1 and become an apostate1 as ,lyranus saith many ,popes have been8 ,and1 yet for all this1 shall the ,holy ,ghost1 with turning of a hand1 knock at his breast1 and even whether he will or no1 yea1 and wholly against his will1 kindle him a light so as he may not err8 ,shall he straightway be the head-spring of all right2 and shall all treasure of wisdom and understanding be found in him1 as it were laid up in store8 or1 if these things be not in him1 can he give a right and apt judgment of so weighty matters8 or1 if he be not able to judge1 would he have that all those matters should be brought before him alone8 ,what will ye say if the ,pope's advocates1 abbots and bishops1 dissemble not the matter1 but show themselves open enemies to the ,gospel1 and though they see1 yet they will not see2 but wry the ,scriptures1 and wittingly and knowingly corrupt and counterfeit the ,word of ,god1 and foully and wickedly apply to the ,pope all the same things1 which evidently and properly be spoken of the ,person of ,christ only1 nor by no means can be applied to any other8 ,and what though they say1 ,the ,pope is all and above all8 or1 that he can do as much as ,christ can8 and that one judgment-place and one council-house serve for the ,pope and for ,christ both together2 or1 that the ,pope is the same light which should come into the world2 which words ,christ spake of ,himself alone3 and that whoso is an evil-doer hateth and flieth from that light2 or that all the other bishops have received of the ,pope's fulness8 ,shortly1 what though they make decrees expressly against ,god's ,word1 and that not in hucker-mucker or covertly1 but openly1 and in the face of the world1 must it needs yet be ,gospel straight whatsoever these men say8 ,shall these be ,god's holy army8 or will ,christ be at hand among them there8 ,shall the ,holy ,ghost flow in their tongues2 or can they with truth say1 ,we and the ,holy ,ghost have thought good so8 ,indeed1 ,peter ,asotus and his companion ,hosius stick not to affirm1 that the same council wherein our ,saviour ,jesus ,christ was condemned to die had both the ,spirit of ,prophesying1 and the ,holy ,ghost1 and the ,spirit of ,truth in it2 and that it was neither a false nor a trifling saying when those bishops said1 ,we have a law1 and by our law ,he ought to die3 and that they1 so saying1 did light upon the very truth of judgment 7for so be ,hosius' words72 and that the same plainly was a just decree whereby they pronounced that ,christ was worthy to die4 ,this1 methinketh1 is strange1 that these men are not able to speak for themselves1 and to defend their own cause1 but they must also take part with ,annas and ,caiaphas4 ,for if they will call that a lawful and a good council wherein the ,son of ,god was most shamefully condemned to die1 what council will they then allow for false and naught8 ,and yet 7as all their councils1 to say truth1 commonly be7 necessity compelled them to pronounce these things of the council holden by ,annas and ,caiaphas4 ,but will these men 7,i say7 reform us the ,church1 being themselves both the persons guilty and the judges too8 ,will they abate their own ambition and pride8 ,will they overthrow their own matter1 and give sentence against themselves that they must leave off to be unlearned bishops1 slow bellies1 heapers together of benefices1 takers upon them as princes and men of war8 ,will the abbots1 the ,pope's dear darlings1 judge that monk for a thief which laboureth not for his living8 and that it is against all law to suffer such a one to live and to be found either in city or in country1 or yet of other men's charges8 or else that a monk ought to lie on the ground1 to live hardly with herbs and pease1 to study earnestly1 to argue1 to pray1 to work with hand1 and fully to bend himself to come to the ministry of the ,church8 ,in faith1 as soon will the ,pharisees and ,scribes repair again the temple of ,god1 and restore it unto us a house of prayer instead of a thievish den4 ,there have been1 ,i know1 certain of their own selves which have found fault with many errors in the ,church1 as ,pope ,adrian1 ,a,eneas ,sylvius1 ,cardinal ,pole1 ,pighius1 and others1 as is aforesaid3 they held afterwards their council at ,trident in the selfsame place where it is now appointed4 ,there assembled many bishops1 and abbots1 and others whom it behoved for that matter4 ,they were alone by themselves2 whatsoever they did1 nobody gainsaid it2 for they had quite shut out and barred our side from all manner of assemblies3 and there they sat six years1 feeding folks with a marvellous expectation of their doings4 ,the first six months1 as though it were greatly needful1 they made many determinations of the ,holy ,trinity1 of the ,father1 of the ,son1 and of the ,holy ,ghost1 which were godly things indeed1 but not so necessary for that time4 ,let us see1 in all that while1 of so many1 so manifest1 so often confessed by them1 and so evident errors1 what one error have they amended8 from what kind of idolatry have they reclaimed the people8 ,what superstition have they taken away8 ,what piece of their tyranny and pomp have they diminished8 ,as though all the world may not now see that this is a conspiracy and not a council2 and that those bishops whom the ,pope hath now called together be wholly sworn and become bound to bear him their faithful allegiance1 and will do no manner of thing but that they perceive pleaseth him1 and helpeth to advance his power1 and as he will have it2 or that they reckon not of the number of men's voices rather than have weight and consideration of the same2 or that might doth not oftentimes overcome right4 ,and therefore we know that divers times many good men and ,catholic bishops did tarry at home1 and would not come when such councils were called1 wherein men so apparently laboured to serve factions and to take parts1 because they knew they should but lose their travail1 and do no good1 seeing whereunto their enemies' minds were so wholly bent4 ,athanasius denied to come1 when he was called by the emperor to his council at ,caesarea1 perceiving plain he should but come among his enemies1 which deadly hated him4 ,the same ,athanasius1 when he came afterward to the council at ,syrmium1 and foresaw what would be the end by reason of the outrage and malice of his enemies1 he packed up his carriage and went away immediately4 ,john ,chrysostom1 although the ,emperor ,constantius commanded him by four sundry letters to come to the ,arians' council1 yet kept he himself at home still4 ,when ,maximus1 the ,bishop of ,jerusalem1 sat in the council at ,palestine1 the old ,father ,paphnutius took him by the hand1 and led him out at the doors1 saying1 ,it is not lawful for us to confer of these matters with wicked men4 ,the bishops of the ,east would not come to the ,syrmian council after they knew ,athanasius had gotten himself thence again4 ,cyril called men back by letters from the council of them which were named ,patropassians4 ,paulinus1 ,bishop of ,triers1 and many others more1 refused to come to the council at ,milan when they understood what a stir and rule ,auxentius kept there3 for they saw it was in vain to go thither1 where not reason1 but faction1 should prevail1 and where folk contended not for the truth and right judgment of the matter1 but for partiality and favour4 ,and yet1 for all those ,fathers had such malicious and stiff-necked enemies1 yet if they had come they should have had free speech at least in the councils4 ,but now1 sithence1 none of us may be suffered so much as to sit1 or once to be seen in these men's meetings1 much less suffered to speak freely our mind2 and seeing the ,pope's legates1 patriarchs1 archbishops1 bishops1 and abbots--all being conspired together1 all linked together in one kind of fault1 and all bound by one oath--sit alone by themselves1 and have power alone to give their consent3 and1 at last1 when they have all done--as though they had done nothing--bring all their opinions to be judged at the will and pleasure of the ,pope1 being but one man1 to the end he may pronounce his own sentence of himself1 who ought rather to have answered to his complaint2 sithence1 also1 the same ancient and ,christian liberty1 which of all right should specially be in ,christian councils1 is now utterly taken away from the council--for these causes1 ,i say1 wise and good men ought not to marvel at this day1 though we do the like now1 that they see was done in times past in like case of so many ,fathers and ,catholic bishops3 which is1 though we choose rather to sit at home1 and leave our whole cause to ,god1 than to journey thither1 whereas we neither shall have place nor be able to do any good2 whereas we can obtain no audience2 whereas princes' ambassadors be but used as mocking-stocks2 and whereas1 also1 we be condemned already1 before trial1 as though the matter were aforehand despatched and agreed upon4 ,nevertheless1 we can bear patiently and quietly our own private wrongs4 ,but wherefore do they shut out ,christian kings and good princes from their convocation8 ,why do they so uncourteously1 or with such spite1 leave them out1 and--as though they were not either ,christian men1 or else could not judge--will not have them made acquainted with the cause of ,christian religion1 nor understand the state of their own ,churches8 ,or if the said kings and princes happen to intermeddle in such matters1 and take upon them to do that they may do1 that they be commanded to do1 and ought of duty to do1 and the same things that we know both ,david and ,solomon and other good princes have done1 that is1 if they--whilst the ,pope and his prelates slug and sleep1 or else mischievously withstand them--do bridle the priests' sensuality1 and drive them to do their duty1 and keep them still to it2 if they do overthrow idols1 if they take away superstition1 and set up again the true worshipping of ,god--why do they by-and-by make an outcry upon them1 that such princes trouble all1 and press by violence into another body's office1 and do thereby wickedly and malapertly8 ,what ,scripture hath at any time forbidden a ,christian prince to be made privy to such causes8 ,who but themselves alone made ever any such law8 ,they will say to this1 ,i guess3 ,civil princes have learned to govern a commonwealth1 and to order matters of war1 but they understand not the secret mysteries of religion4 ,if that be so1 what is the ,pope1 ,i pray you1 at this day other than a monarch or a prince8 ,or what be the cardinals1 who must be none other nowadays1 but princes and kings' sons8 ,what else be the patriarchs1 and1 for the most part1 the archbishops1 the bishops1 the abbots8 ,what be they else at this present in the ,pope's kingdom but worldly princes1 but dukes and earls1 gorgeously accompanied with bands of men whithersoever they go2 oftentimes also gaily arrayed with chains and collars of gold8 ,they have at times1 too1 certain ornaments by themselves1 as crosses1 pillars1 hats1 mitres1 and palls--which pomp the ancient bishops ,chrysostom1 ,augustine1 and ,ambrose never had4 ,setting these things aside1 what teach they8 ,what say they8 ,what do they8 ,how live they8 ,i say1 not as may become a bishop1 but as may become even a ,christian man8 ,is it so great a matter to have a vain title1 and1 by changing a garment only1 to have the name of a bishop8 ,surely to have the principal stay and effect of all matters committed wholly to these men's hands1 who neither know nor will know these things1 nor yet set a jot by any point of religion1 save that which concerneth their belly and riot2 and to have them alone sit as judges1 and to be set up as overseers in the watch-tower1 being no better than blind spies2 of the other side1 to have a ,christian prince of good understanding and of a right judgment to stand still like a block or a stake1 not to be suffered neither to give his voice nor to show his judgment1 but only to wait what these men shall will and command1 as one which had neither ears1 nor eyes1 nor wit1 nor heart2 and whatsoever they give in charge1 to allow it without exception1 blindly fulfilling their commandments1 be they never so blasphemous and wicked1 yea1 although they command him quite to destroy all religion1 and to crucify again ,christ ,himself3 this surely1 besides that it is proud and spiteful1 is also beyond all right and reason1 and not to be endured of ,christian and wise princes4 ,why1 ,i pray you1 may ,caiaphas and ,annas understand these matters1 and may not ,david and ,ezechias do the same8 ,is it lawful for a cardinal1 being a man of war1 and delighting in blood1 to have place in a council8 and is it not lawful for a ,christian emperor or a king8 ,we truly grant no further liberty to our magistrates than that we know hath both been given them by the ,word of ,god1 and also been confirmed by the examples of the very best governed commonwealths4 ,for besides that a ,christian prince hath the charge of both tables committed to him by ,god1 to the end he may understand that not temporal matters only1 but also religious and ecclesiastical causes1 pertain to his office3 besides also that ,god by ,his prophets often and earnestly commandeth the king to cut down the groves1 to break down the images and altars of idols1 and to write out the book of the law for himself3 and besides that the prophet ,isaiah saith1 ,a king ought to be a patron and a nurse of the ,church3 ,i say1 besides all these things1 we see by histories and by examples of the best times that good princes ever took the administration of ecclesiastical matters to pertain to their duty4 ,moses1 a civil magistrate1 and chief guide of the people1 both received from ,god1 and delivered to the people1 all the order for religion and sacrifices1 and gave ,aaron the bishop a vehement and sore rebuke for making the golden calf1 and for suffering the corruption of religion4 ,joshua also1 though he were none other than a civil magistrate1 yet as soon as he was chosen by ,god1 and set as a ruler over the people1 he received commandments specially touching religion and the service of ,god4 ,king ,david1 when the whole religion was altogether brought out of frame by wicked king ,saul1 brought home again the ,ark of ,god2 that is to say1 he restored religion again2 and was not only amongst them himself as a counsellor and furtherer of the work1 but he appointed also hymns and psalms1 put in order the companies1 and was the only doer in setting forth that whole solemn show1 and in effect ruled the priests4 ,king ,solomon built unto the ,lord the ,temple which his father ,david had but purposed in his mind to do3 and after the finishing thereof1 he made a goodly oration to the people concerning religion and the service of ,god3 he afterward displaced ,abiathar the priest1 and set ,sadok in his place4 ,after this1 when the ,temple of ,god was in shameful wise polluted through the naughtiness and negligence of the priests1 ,king ,hezekiah commanded the same to be cleansed from the rubble and filth1 the priests to light up candles1 to burn incense1 and to do their ,divine service according to the old and allowed custom2 the same king also commanded the brazen serpent1 which then the people wickedly worshipped1 to be taken1 down and beaten to powder4 ,king ,jehoshaphat overthrew and utterly made away the hill altars and groves2 whereby he saw ,god's honour hindered and the people holden back with a private superstition from the ordinary ,temple1 which was at ,jerusalem1 whereto they should by order have resorted yearly from every part of the realm4 ,king ,josiah with great diligence put the priests and bishops in mind of their duties2 ,king ,joash bridled the riot and arrogancy of the priests2 ,jehu put to death the wicked prophets4 ,and to rehearse no more examples out of the old law1 let us rather consider1 since the birth of ,christ1 how the ,church hath been governed in the ,gospel's time4 ,the ,christian emperors in the old time appointed the councils of the bishops4 ,constantine called the council at ,nice2 ,theodosius the ,first called the council at ,constantinople2 ,theodosius the ,second1 the council at ,ephesus2 ,martian1 the council at ,chalcedon2 and when ,ruffine the heretic had alleged for authority a council which1 as he thought1 should make for him1 ,st4 ,hierom his adversary1 to confute him1 ,tell us1 quod he1 what emperor commanded that council to be called4 ,the same ,st4 ,hierom again1 in his epitaph upon ,paula1 maketh mention of the emperor's letters which gave commandment to call the bishops of ,italy and ,greece to ,rome to a council4 ,continually for the space of five hundred years1 the emperor alone appointed the ecclesiastical assemblies1 and called the councils of the bishops together4 ,we now therefore marvel the more at the unreasonable dealing of the ,bishop of ,rome1 who1 knowing what was the emperor's right when the ,church was well ordered1 knowing also that it is now a common right to all princes1 for so much as the kings are now fully possessed in the several parts of the whole empire1 doth so without consideration assign that office alone to himself1 and taketh it sufficient1 in summoning a general council1 to make that man that is prince of the whole world no otherwise partaker thereof than he would make his own servant4 ,and although the modesty and mildness of the ,emperor ,ferdinand be so great that he can bear this wrong1 because1 peradventure1 he understandeth not well the ,pope's packing1 yet ought not the ,pope of his holiness to offer him that wrong1 nor to claim as his own another man's right4 ,but hereto some will reply3 ,the emperor1 indeed1 called councils at that time ye speak of1 because the ,bishop of ,rome was not yet grown so great as he is now1 but yet the emperor did not then sit together with the bishops in council1 or once bare any stroke with his authority in their consultation4 ,i answer1 ,nay1 that it is not so2 for1 as witnesseth ,theodoret1 the ,emperor ,constantine sat not only together with them in the ,council of ,nice1 but gave also advice to the bishops how it was best to try out the matter by the ,apostles' and ,prophets' writings1 as appeareth by these his own words3 ,in disputation1 saith he1 of matters of divinity1 we have set before us to follow the doctrine of the ,holy ,ghost4 ,for the ,evangelists' and the ,apostles' works1 and the ,prophets' sayings1 show us sufficiently what opinion we ought to have of the will of ,god4 ,the ,emperor ,theodosius1 as saith ,socrates1 did not only sit amongst the bishops1 but also ordered the whole arguing of the cause1 and tare in pieces the heretics' books1 and allowed for good the judgment of the ,catholics4 ,in the council at ,chalcedon a civil magistrate condemned for heretics1 by the sentence of his own mouth1 the bishops ,dioscorus1 ,juvenalis1 and ,thalassius1 and gave judgment to put them down from their dignities in the ,church4 ,in the third council at ,constantinople1 ,constantine1 a civil magistrate1 did not only sit amongst the bishops1 but did also subscribe with them4 ,for1 saith he1 we have both read and subscribed4 ,in the second council called ,arausicanum1 the prince's ambassadors1 being noble men born1 not only spake their mind touching religion1 but set to their hands also1 as well as the bishops4 ,for thus it is written in the latter end of that council3 ,petrus1 ,marcellinus1 ,felix1 and ,liberius1 being most noble men1 and famous lieutenants1 and captains of ,france1 and also peers of the realm1 have given their consent1 and set to their hands4 ,further3 ,syagrius1 ,opilio1 ,pantagathus1 ,deodatus1 ,cariattho1 and ,marcellus1 men of very great honour1 have subscribed4 ,if it be so1 then1 that lieutenants1 captains1 and peers have had authority to subscribe in council1 have not emperors and kings the like authority8 ,truly there had been no need to handle so plain a matter as this is with so many words1 and so at length1 if we had not to do with those men who1 for a desire they have to strive and to win the mastery1 use of course to deny all things1 be they never so clear--yea1 the very same which they presently see and behold with their own eyes4 ,the ,emperor ,justinian made a law to correct the behaviour of the clergy1 and to cut short the insolency of the priests4 ,and albeit he were a ,christian and a ,catholic prince1 yet put he down from their papal throne two ,popes1 ,sylverius and ,vigilius1 notwithstanding they were ,peter's successors and ,christ's vicars4 ,let us see1 then1 such men as have authority over the bishops1 such men as receive from ,god commandments concerning religion1 such as bring home again the ,ark of ,god1 make holy hymns1 oversee the priests1 build the ,temple1 make orations touching ,divine service1 cleanse the temples1 destroy the hill altars1 burn the idols' groves1 teach the priests their duties1 write them out precepts how they should live1 kill the wicked prophets1 displace the high priests1 call together the councils of bishops1 sit together with the bishops1 instructing them what they ought to do1 condemn and punish an heretical bishop1 be made acquainted with matters of religion1 which subscribe and give sentence2 and do all these things1 not by any other man's commission1 but in their own name1 and that both uprightly and godly3 shall we say it pertaineth not to such men to have to do with religion8 or shall we say a ,christian magistrate1 which dealeth amongst others in these matters1 doth either naughtily1 or presumptuously1 or wickedly8 ,the most ancient and ,christian emperors and kings that ever were1 did busy themselves with these matters1 and yet were they never for this cause noted either of wickedness or of presumption4 ,and what is he that can find out either more ,catholic princes or more notable examples8 ,wherefore1 if it were lawful for them to do thus1 being but civil magistrates1 and having the chief rule of commonweals1 what offence have our princes at this day made1 which may not have leave to do the like1 being in the like degree8 or what especial gift of learning1 or of judgment1 or of holiness have these men now1 that1 contrary to the custom of all the ancient and ,catholic bishops1 who used to confer with princes and peers concerning religion1 they do now thus reject and cast off ,christian princes from knowing of the cause1 and from their meetings8 ,well1 thus doing1 they wisely and warily provide for themselves and for their kingdom1 which otherwise they see is like shortly to come to nought4 ,for if so be they whom ,god hath placed in greatest dignity did see and perceive these men's practices1 how ,christ's commandments be despised by them1 how the light of the ,gospel is darkened and quenched out by them1 and how themselves also be subtly beguiled and mocked1 and unawares be deluded by them1 and the way to the kingdom of heaven stopped up before them3 no doubt they would never so quietly suffer themselves neither to be disdained after such a proud sort1 nor so despitefully to be scorned and abused by them4 ,but now1 through their own lack of understanding1 and through their own blindness1 these men have them fast yoked1 and in their danger4 ,we truly for our parts1 as we have said1 have done nothing in altering religion either upon rashness or arrogancy2 nor nothing but with good leisure and great consideration4 ,neither had we ever intended to do it1 except both the manifest and most assured will of ,god1 opened to us in ,his ,holy ,scriptures1 and the regard of our own salvation1 had even constrained us thereunto4 ,for though we have departed from that ,church which these men call ,catholic1 and by that means get us envy amongst them that want skill to judge1 yet is this enough for us1 and ought to be enough for every wise and good man1 and one that maketh account of everlasting life1 that we have gone from that ,church which had power to err3 which ,christ1 who cannot err1 told so long before it should err2 and which we ourselves did evidently see with our eyes to have gone both from the holy fathers1 and from the ,apostles1 and from ,christ ,his own self1 and from the primitive and ,catholic ,church2 and we are come as near as we possibly could to the ,church of the ,apostles and of the old ,catholic bishops and fathers2 which ,church we know hath hereunto been sound and perfect1 and1 as ,tertullian termeth it1 a pure virgin1 spotted as yet with no idolatry1 nor with any foul or shameful fault3 and have directed1 according to their customs and ordinances1 not only our doctrine1 but also the ,sacraments and the form of common prayer4 ,and1 as we know both ,christ ,himself and all good men heretofore have done1 we have called home again to the original and first foundation that religion which hath been foully foreslowed1 and utterly corrupted by these men4 ,for we thought it meet thence to take the pattern of reforming religion from whence the ground of religion was first taken3 because this one reason1 as saith the most ancient father ,tertullian1 hath great force against all heresies1 ,look1 whatsoever was first1 that is true2 and whatsoever is latter1 that is corrupt4 ,irenaeus oftentimes appealed to the oldest churches1 which had been nearest to ,christ's time1 and which it was hard to believe had erred4 ,but why at this day is not the same respect and consideration had8 ,why return we not to the pattern of the old churches8 ,why may not we hear at this time amongst us the same saying1 which was openly pronounced in times past in the council at ,nice by so many bishops and ,catholic fathers1 and nobody once speaking against it ,greek text3 that is to say1 hold still the old customs6 ,when ,esdras went about to repair the ruins of the ,temple of ,god1 he sent not to ,ephesus1 although the most beautiful and gorgeous temple of ,diana was there2 and when he purposed to restore the sacrifices and ceremonies of ,god1 he sent not to ,rome1 although peradventure he had heard in that place were the solemn sacrifices called ,hecatombae1 and other called ,solitaurilia1 ,lectisternia1 and ,supplicationes1 and ,numa ,pompilius' ceremonial books4 ,he thought it enough for him to set before his eyes1 and follow the pattern of the old ,temple1 which ,solomon at the beginning builded according as ,god had appointed him1 and also those old customs and ceremonies which ,god ,himself had written out by special words for ,moses4 ,the prophet ,aggaeus1 after the temple was repaired again by ,esdras1 and the people might think they had a very just cause to rejoice on their own behalf for so great a benefit received of ,almighty ,god1 yet made he them all burst out into tears1 because that they which were yet alive and had seen the former building of the ,temple1 before the ,babylonians destroyed it1 called to mind how far off it was yet from that beauty and excellency which it had in the old times past before4 ,for then1 indeed1 would they have thought the ,temple worthily repaired if it had answered to the ancient pattern and to the majesty of the first ,temple4 ,paul1 because he would amend the abuse of the ,lord's ,supper1 which the ,corinthians even then began to corrupt1 he set before them ,christ's institution to follow1 saying3 ,i have delivered unto you that which ,i first received of the ,lord4 ,and when ,christ did confute the error of the ,pharisees1 ,ye must1 saith ,he1 return to the first beginning2 for from the beginning it was not thus4 ,and when ,he found great fault with the priests for their uncleanness of life and covetousness1 and would cleanse the ,temple from all evil abuses1 ,this house1 saith ,he1 at the first beginning it was a house of prayer1 wherein all the people might devoutly and sincerely pray together4 ,and so it were your part to use it now also at this day1 for it was not builded to the end it should be a den of thieves4 ,likewise all the good and commendable princes mentioned of in the ,scriptures were praised specially by these words1 that they had walked in the ways of their father ,david3 that is1 because they had returned to the first and original foundation1 and had restored religion even to the perfection wherein ,david left it4 ,and therefore1 when we likewise saw all things were quite trodden under foot of these men1 and that nothing remained in the temple of ,god but pitiful spoils and decays1 we reckoned it the wisest and the safest way to set before our eyes those churches which we know for a surety that they never had erred1 nor never had private mass1 nor prayers in a strange and barbarous language1 nor this corrupting of sacraments1 and other toys4 ,and forsomuch as our desire was to have the ,temple of the ,lord restored anew1 we would seek none other foundation than the same which we know was long ago laid by the ,apostles1 that is to wit1 ,our ,saviour1 ,jesus ,christ4 ,and forasmuch as we heard ,god ,himself speaking unto us in ,his word1 and saw also the notable examples of the old and primitive ,church2 again1 how uncertain a matter it was to wait for a general council1 and that the success thereof would be much more uncertain1 but specially forsomuch as we were most ascertained of ,god's will1 and counted it a wickedness to be too careful and overcumbered about the judgments of mortal men3 we could no longer stand taking advice with flesh and blood1 but rather thought good to do the same thing1 that both might rightly be done1 and hath also many a time been done1 as well of good men as of many ,catholic bishops--that is1 to remedy our own churches by a provincial synod4 ,for thus know we the old fathers used to put in experience before they came to the public universal council4 ,there remain yet at this day canons written in councils of free cities1 as of ,carthage under ,cyprian1 as of ,ancyra1 ,neocaesarea1 and ,gangra1 which is in ,paphlagonia1 as some think1 before that the name of the general council at ,nice was ever heard of4 ,after this fashion in old time did they speedily meet with and cut short those heretics1 the ,pelagians and the ,donatists at home1 by private disputation1 without any general council4 ,thus1 also1 when the ,emperor ,constantine evidently and earnestly took part with ,auxentius1 the bishop of the ,arians' faction1 ,ambrose1 the bishop of the ,christians1 appealed not unto a general council1 where he saw no good could be done1 by reason of the emperor's might and great labour1 but appealed to his own clergy and people1 that is to say1 to a provincial synod4 ,and thus it was decreed in the council at ,nice that the bishops should assemble twice every year4 ,and in the council at ,carthage it was decreed that the bishops should meet together in each of their provinces at least once in the year1 which was done1 as saith the council of ,chalcedon1 of purpose that if any errors and abuses had happened to spring up anywhere1 they might immediately at the first entry be destroyed where they first began4 ,so likewise when ,secundus and ,palladius rejected the council at ,aquileia1 because it was not a general and a common council1 ,ambrose1 bishop of ,milan1 made answer that no man ought to take it for a new or strange matter that the bishops of the west part of the world did call together synods1 and make private assemblies in their provinces1 for that it was a thing before then used by the west bishops no few times1 and by the bishops of ,greece used oftentimes and commonly to be done4 ,and so ,charles the ,great1 being emperor1 held a provincial council in ,germany for putting away images1 contrary to the second council at ,nice4 ,neither1 pardy1 even amongst us is this so very a strange and new a trade4 ,for we have had ere now in ,england provincial synods1 and governed our churches by home-made laws4 ,what should one say more8 ,of a truth1 even those greatest councils1 and where most assembly of people ever was 7whereof these men use to make such an exceeding reckoning71 compare them with all the churches which throughout the world acknowledge and profess the name of ,christ1 and what else1 ,i pray you1 can they seem to be but certain private councils of bishops and provincial synods8 ,for admit1 peradventure1 ,italy1 ,france1 ,spain1 ,england1 ,germany1 ,denmark1 and ,scotland meet together1 if there want ,asia1 ,greece1 ,armenia1 ,persia1 ,media1 ,mesopotamia1 ,egypt1 ,ethiopia1 ,india1 and ,mauritania1 in all which places there be both many ,christian men and also bishops1 how can any man1 being in his right mind1 think such a council to be a general council8 or where so many parts of the world do lack how can they truly say they have the consent of the whole world8 ,or what manner of council1 ween you1 was the same last at ,trident8 ,or how might it be termed a general council1 when out of all ,christian kingdoms and nations there came unto it but only forty bishops1 and of the same some so cunning that they might be thought meet to be sent home again to learn their grammar1 and so well learned that they had never studied divinity4 ,whatsoever it be1 the truth of the ,gospel of ,jesus ,christ dependeth not upon councils1 nor1 as ,st4 ,paul saith1 upon mortal creature's judgment4 ,and if they which ought to be careful for ,god's ,church will not be wise1 but slack their duty1 and harden their hearts against ,god and ,his ,christ1 going on still to pervert the right ways of the ,lord1 ,god will stir up the very stones1 and make children and babes cunning1 whereby there may ever be some to confute these men's lies4 ,for ,god is able 7not only without councils71 but also1 will the councils1 nill the councils1 to maintain and advance ,his own kingdom4 ,full many be the thoughts of man's heart 7saith ,solomon72 but the counsel of the ,lord abideth steadfast3 ,there is no wisdom1 there is no knowledge1 there is no counsel against the ,lord4 ,things endure not 7saith ,hilarius71 that be set up with men's workmanship3 by another manner of means must the ,church of ,god be builded and preserved3 for that ,church is grounded upon the foundation of the ,apostles and ,prophets1 and is holden fast together by one corner stone1 which is ,christ ,jesu4 ,but marvellous notable1 and to very good purpose for these days1 be ,hierom's words3 ,whosoever 7saith he7 the devil hath deceived1 and enticed to fall asleep1 as it were with the sweet and deathly enchantments of the mermaids the ,syrens1 those persons doth ,god's word awake up1 saying unto them1 ,arise1 thou that sleepest2 lift up thyself1 and ,christ shall give thee light4 ,therefore1 at the coming of ,christ1 of ,god's word1 of the ecclesiastical doctrine1 and of the full destruction of ,nineveh1 and of that most beautiful harlot1 then1 then shall the people1 which heretofore had been cast in a trance under their masters1 be raised up1 and shall make haste to go to the mountains of the ,scripture2 and there shall they find hills1 ,moses verily1 and ,joshua the son of ,nun1 other hills also1 which are the ,prophets2 and hills of the ,new ,testament1 which are the ,apostles and the ,evangelists4 ,and when the people shall flee for succour to such hills1 and shall be exercised in the reading of those kind of mountains1 though they find not one to teach them 7for the harvest shall be great1 but the labourers few71 yet shall the good desire of the people be well accepted1 in that they have gotten them to such hills2 and the negligence of their masters shall be openly reproved4 ,these be ,hierom's sayings1 and that so plain1 as there needeth no interpreter4 ,for they agree so just with the things we now see with our eyes have already come to pass1 that we may verily think that he meant to foretell1 as it were1 by the spirit of prophecy1 and to paint before our face the universal state of our time2 the fall of the most gorgeous harlot ,babylon2 the repairing again of ,god's ,church2 the blindness and sloth of the bishops1 and the good will and forwardness of the people4 ,for who is so blind1 that he seeth not these men be the masters1 by whom the people1 as saith ,hierom1 hath been led into error and lulled asleep8 ,or who sooth not ,rome1 that is their ,nineveh1 which sometime was painted with fairest colours1 but now1 her vizard being palled off1 is both better seen and less set by8 ,or who seeth not that good men1 being awaked1 as it were1 out of their dead sleep at the light of the ,gospel and at the voice of ,god1 have resorted to the hills of the ,scriptures1 waiting not at all for the councils of such masters8 ,but1 by your favour1 some will say1 these things ought not to have been attempted without the ,bishop of ,rome's commandment1 forsomuch as he only is the knot and band of ,christian society4 ,he only is that priest of ,levi's order whom ,god signified in the ,deuteronomy1 from whom counsel in matters of weight and true judgment ought to be fetched2 and whoso obeyeth not his judgment1 the same man ought to be killed in the sight of his brethren2 and that no mortal creature hath authority to be judge over him1 whatsoever he do3 that ,christ reigneth in heaven1 and he in earth2 that he alone can do as much as ,christ or ,god ,himself can do1 because ,christ and he have but one council-house2 that without him is no faith1 no hope1 no ,church2 and whoso goeth from him quite casteth away and renounceth his own salvation4 ,such talk have the canonists1 the ,pope's parasites1 surely1 but with small discretion or soberness4 ,for they could scant say more1 at least they could not speak more highly of ,christ ,himself4 ,as for us1 truly we have fallen from the ,bishop of ,rome upon no manner of worldly respect or commodity4 ,and would to ,christ he so behaved himself as this falling away needed not2 but so the case stood1 that unless we left him we could not come to ,christ4 ,neither will he now make any other league with us than such a one as ,nahas the king of the ,ammonites would have made in times past with them of the city of ,jabez1 which was to put out the right eye of each one of the inhabitants4 ,even so will the ,pope pluck from us the holy ,scripture1 the ,gospel of our salvation1 and all the confidence which we have in ,christ ,jesu4 ,and upon other condition can he not agree upon peace with us4 ,for whereas some use to make so great a vaunt1 that the ,pope is only ,peter's successor1 as though thereby he carried the ,holy ,ghost in his bosom1 and cannot err1 this is but a matter of nothing1 and a very trifling tale4 ,god's grace is promised to a good mind1 and to one that feareth ,god1 not unto sees and successions4 ,riches1 saith ,hierom1 may make a bishop to be of more might than the rest3 but all the bishops1 whosoever they be1 are the successors of the ,apostles4 ,if so be the place and consecrating only be sufficient1 why then ,manasses succeeded ,david1 and ,caiaphas succeeded ,aaron4 ,and it hath been often seen1 that an idol hath stand in the temple of ,god4 ,in old time ,archidamus the ,lacedaemonian boasted much of himself1 how he came of the blood of ,hercules4 ,but one ,nicostratus in this wise abated his pride3 ,nay1 quoth he1 thou seemest not to descend from ,hercules4 ,for ,hercules destroyed ill men1 but thou makest good men evil4 ,and when the ,pharisees bragged of their lineage1 how they were of the kindred and blood of ,abraham3 ,ye1 saith ,christ1 seek to kill me1 a man which have told you the truth1 as ,i heard it from ,god4 ,thus ,abraham never did4 ,ye are of your father the devil1 and will needs obey his will4 ,yet notwithstanding1 because we will grant somewhat to succession1 tell us1 hath the ,pope alone succeeded ,peter8 ,and wherein1 ,i pray you8 ,in what religion8 in what office8 in what piece of his life hath he succeeded him8 ,what one thing 7tell me7 had ,peter ever like unto the ,pope1 or the ,pope like unto ,peter8 ,except peradventure they will say thus3 that ,peter1 when he was at ,rome1 never taught the ,gospel1 never fed the flock1 took away the keys of the kingdom of heaven1 hid the treasures of his ,lord1 sat him down only in his castle in ,s4 ,john ,lateran1 and pointed out with his finger all the places of purgatory1 and kinds of punishments1 committing some poor souls to be tormented1 and other some again suddenly releasing thence at his own pleasure1 taking money for so doing3 or that he gave order to say private masses in every corner3 or that he mumbled up the holy service with a low voice1 and in an unknown language3 or that he hanged up the ,sacrament in every temple1 and on every altar1 and carried the same about before him whithersoever he went1 upon an ambling jannet1 with lights and bells2 or that he consecrated with his holy breath1 oil1 wax1 wool1 bells1 chalices1 churches1 and altars1 or that he sold jubilees1 graces1 liberties1 advowsons1 preventions1 first fruits1 palls1 the wearing of palls1 bulls1 indulgences1 and pardons2 or that he called himself by the name of the head of the ,church1 the highest bishop1 bishop of bishops1 alone most holy3 or that by usurping he took upon himself the right and authority over other folk's churches2 or that he exempted himself from the power of any civil government2 or that he maintained wars1 and set princes together at variance3 or that he sitting in his chair1 with his triple crown full of labels1 with sumptuous and ,persian-like gorgeousness1 with his royal sceptre1 with his diadem of gold1 and glittering with stones1 was carried about1 not upon palfrey1 but upon the shoulders of noble men4 ,these things1 no doubt1 did ,peter at ,rome in times past1 and left them in charge to his successors1 as you would say1 from hand to hand2 for these things be now-a-days done at ,rome by the popes1 and be so done1 as though nothing else ought to be done4 ,or contrariwise1 peradventure they had rather say thus1 that the ,pope doth now all the same things1 which we know ,peter did many a day ago3 that is1 that he runneth up and down into every country to preach the gospel1 not only openly abroad1 but also privately from house to house3 that he is diligent1 and applieth that business in season and out of season1 in due time and out of due time3 that he doth the part of an evangelist1 that he fulfilleth the work and ministry of ,christ1 that he is the watchman of the ,house of ,israel1 receiveth answers and words at ,god's mouth2 and even as he receiveth them1 so delivereth them over to the people3 that he is the salt of the earth3 that he is the light of the world3 that he doth not feed his own self1 but his flock3 that he doth not entangle himself with the worldly cares of this life3 that he doth not use a sovereignty over the ,lord's people3 that he seeketh not to have other men minister to him1 but himself rather to minister unto others3 that he taketh all bishops as his fellows and equals2 that he is subject to princes1 as to persons sent from ,god3 that he giveth to ,caesar that which is ,caesar's3 and that he1 as the old bishops of ,rome did without any question1 calleth the emperor his lord4 ,unless1 therefore1 the popes do the like now-a-days1 and ,peter did the things aforesaid1 there is no cause at all why they should glory so of ,peter's name1 and of his succession4 ,much less cause have they to complain of our departing1 and to call us again to be fellows and friends with them1 and to believe as they believe4 ,men say1 that one ,cobilon1 a ,lacedaemonian1 when he was sent ambassador to the king of the ,persians to treat of a league1 and found by chance them of the court playing at dice1 he returned straightway home again1 leaving his message undone4 ,and when he was asked why he did slack to do the things which he had received by public commission to do1 he made answer1 he thought it should be a great reproach to his commonwealth to make a league with dicers4 ,but if we should content ourselves to return to the ,pope1 and to his popish errors1 and to make a covenant not only with dicers1 but also with men far more ungracious and wicked than any dicers be2 besides that this should be a great blot to our good name1 it should also be a very dangerous matter1 both to kindle ,god's wrath against us1 and to clog and condemn our own souls for ever4 ,for of very truth we have departed from him1 who we saw had blinded the whole world this many a hundred year3 from him1 who too far presumptuously was wont to say1 he could not err1 and whatsoever he did no mortal man had power to condemn him1 neither kings1 nor emperors1 nor the whole clergy1 nor yet all the people in the world together2 no1 and though he should carry away with him to hell a thousand souls from him who took upon him power to command1 not only men1 but even ,god's angels1 to go1 to return1 to lead souls into purgatory1 and to bring them back again when he list himself3 whom ,gregory said1 without all doubt1 is the very forerunner and standard-bearer of ,antichrist1 and hath utterly forsaken the ,catholic faith1 from whom also these ringleaders of ours1 who now with might and main resist the gospel1 and the truth1 which they know to be the truth1 have ere this departed every one of their own accord and goodwill1 and would even now also gladly depart from him1 if the note of inconstancy and shame1 and their own estimation among the people1 were not a let unto them4 ,in conclusion1 we have departed from him1 to whom we were not bound1 and who had nothing to say for himself1 but only ,i know not what virtue or power of the place where he dwelleth1 and a continuance of succession4 ,and as for us1 we of all others most justly have left him4 ,for our kings1 yea1 even they which with greatest reverence did follow and obey the authority and faith of the bishops of ,rome1 have long since found and felt well enough the yoke and tyranny of the ,pope's kingdom4 ,for the bishops of ,rome took the crown off from the head of our ,king ,henry the ,second1 and compelled him to put aside all majesty1 and like a mere private man to come unto their legate with great submission and humility1 so as all his subjects might laugh him to scorn4 ,more than this1 they caused bishops and monks1 and some part of the nobility1 to be in the field against our ,king ,john1 and set all the people at liberty from their oaths1 whereby they ought allegiance to their king2 and at last1 wickedly and most abominably they bereaved the king1 not only of his kingdom1 but also of his life4 ,besides this1 they excommunicated and cursed king ,henry the ,eighth1 that most famous prince1 and stirred up against him1 sometime the ,emperor1 sometime the ,french king3 and as much as in them was1 put in adventure our realm to have been a very prey and spoil4 ,yet were they but fools and mad1 to think that either so mighty a prince could be scared with bugs and rattles2 or else1 that so noble and great a kingdom might so easily1 even at one morsel1 be devoured and swallowed up4 ,and yet1 as though all this were too little1 they would needs make all the realm tributary to them1 and exacted thence yearly most unjust and wrongful taxes4 ,so dear cost us the friendship of the city of ,rome4 ,wherefore1 if they have gotten these things of us by extortion1 through their fraud and subtle sleights1 we see no reason why we may not pluck away the same from them again by lawful ways and just means4 ,and if our kings in that darkness and blindness of former times1 gave them these things of their own accord and liberality for religion's sake1 being moved with a certain opinion of their feigned holiness2 now when ignorance and error is espied out1 may the kings1 their successors1 take them away again1 seeing they have the same authority the kings their ancestors had before4 ,for the gift is void1 except it be hallowed by the will of the giver1 and that cannot seem a perfect will1 which is dimmed and hindered by error4 ,,the ,,recapitulation ,,of ,,the ,,apology4 ,thus1 good ,christian reader1 ye see how it is no new thing1 though at this day the religion of ,christ be entertained with despites and checks1 being but lately restored1 and as it were1 coming up again anew2 forsomuch as the like hath chanced both to ,christ ,himself and to ,his ,apostles3 yet nevertheless1 for fear ye may suffer yourself to be led amiss and seduced with these exclamations of our adversaries1 we have declared at large unto you the very whole manner of our religion1 what our opinion is of ,god the ,father1 of ,his only ,son ,jesus ,christ1 of the ,holy ,ghost1 of the ,church1 of the ,sacraments1 of the ministry1 of the ,scriptures1 of ceremonies1 and of every part of ,christian belief4 ,we have said1 that we abandon and detest1 as plagues and poisons1 all those old heresies which either the sacred ,scriptures1 or the ancient councils have utterly condemned3 that we call home again1 as much as ever we can1 the right discipline of the ,church1 which our adversaries have quite brought into a poor and weak case4 ,that we punish all licentiousness of life1 and unruliness of manners1 by the old and long-continued laws1 and with as much sharpness as is convenient1 and lieth in our power4 ,that we maintain still the state of kingdoms1 in the same condition and plight wherein we have found them1 without any diminishing or alteration1 reserving unto our princes their majesties and worldly pre-eminence1 safe and without impairing1 to our possible power4 ,that we have so gotten ourselves away from that ,church1 which they had made a den of thieves1 and wherein nothing was in good frame1 or once like to the ,church of ,god1 and which1 themselves confessed1 had erred many ways1 even as ,lot in times past gat him out of ,sodom1 or ,abraham out of ,chaldea1 not upon a desire of contention1 but by the warning of ,god ,himself4 ,and that we have searched out of the ,holy ,bible1 which we are sure cannot deceive1 one sure form of religion1 and have returned again unto the primitive ,church of the ancient fathers and ,apostles2 that is to say1 to the first ground and beginning of things1 as unto the very foundations and headsprings of ,christ's ,church4 ,and in very truth we have not tarried for in this matter the authority or consent of the ,tridentine council1 wherein we saw nothing done uprightly1 nor by good order2 where also everybody was sworn to the maintenance of one man2 where our prince's ambassadors were contemned2 where not one of our divines could be heard1 and where parts-taking and ambition was openly and earnestly procured and wrought2 but1 as the holy fathers in former time1 and as our predecessors have commonly done1 we have restored our churches by a provincial convocation1 and have clean shaken off1 as our duty was1 the yoke and tyranny of the bishop of ,rome1 to whom we were not bound2 who also had no manner of thing like1 neither to ,christ1 nor to ,peter1 nor to an ,apostle1 nor yet like to any bishop at all4 ,finally1 we say1 that we agree amongst ourselves touching the whole judgment and chief substance of ,christian religion1 and with one mouth1 and with one spirit1 do worship ,god1 and the ,father of our ,lord ,jesus ,christ4 ,wherefore1 ,o ,christian and godly reader1 forasmuch as thou seest the reasons and causes1 both why we have restored religion1 and why we have forsaken these men1 thou oughtest not to marvel1 though we have chosen to obey our ,master ,christ1 rather than men4 ,paul hath given us warning how we should not suffer ourselves to be carried away with such sundry learnings1 and to fly their companies1 in especial1 which would sow debate and variances1 clean contrary to the doctrine which they had received of ,christ and the ,apostles4 ,long since have these men's crafts and treacheries decayed1 and vanished1 and fled away at the sight and light of the ,gospel1 even as the owl doth at the sun-rising4 ,and albeit their trumpery be built up1 and reared as high as the sky1 yea even1 in a moment1 and as it were of the own self1 falleth it down again to the ground and cometh to nought4 ,for you must not think that all these things have come to pass rashly1 or at adventure2 it hath been ,god's pleasure1 that1 against all men's wills well nigh1 the ,gospel of ,jesu ,christ should be spread abroad throughout the whole world at these days4 ,and1 therefore1 men1 following ,god's biddings1 have of their own free will resorted unto the doctrine of ,jesus ,christ4 ,and for our parts1 truly we have sought hereby1 neither glory1 nor wealth1 nor pleasure1 nor ease4 ,for there is plenty of all these things with our adversaries4 ,and when we were of their side1 we enjoyed such worldly commodities much more liberally and bountifully than we do now4 ,neither do we eschew concord and peace1 but to have peace with man we will not be at war with ,god4 ,the name of peace is a sweet and pleasant thing1 saith ,hilarius2 but yet beware1 saith he1 peace is one thing1 and bondage is another4 ,for if it should so be1 as they seek to have it1 that ,christ should be commanded to keep silence1 that the truth of the ,gospel should be betrayed1 that horrible errors should be cloaked1 that ,christian men's eyes should be bleared1 and that they might be suffered to conspire openly against ,god2 this were not a peace1 but a most ungodly covenant of servitude4 ,there is a peace1 saith ,nazianzen1 that is unprofitable2 again1 there is a discord1 saith he1 that is profitable4 ,for we must conditionally desire peace1 so far as is lawful before ,god1 and so far as we may conveniently4 ,for otherwise ,christ ,himself brought not peace into the world1 but a sword4 ,wherefore1 if the pope will have us be reconciled to him1 his duty is first to be reconciled to ,god4 ,for from thence1 saith ,cyprian1 spring schisms and sects1 because men seek not the ,head1 and have not their recourse to the fountain 7of the ,scriptures71 and keep not the rules given by the heavenly ,teacher4 ,for1 saith he1 that is not peace1 but war2 neither is he joined unto the ,church1 which is severed from the ,gospel4 ,as for these men1 they used to make a merchandise of the name of peace4 ,for that peace which they so fain would have1 is only a rest of idle bellies4 ,they and we might easily be brought to atonement2 touching all these matters1 were it not that ambition1 gluttony1 and excess did let it4 ,hence cometh their whining1 their heart is on their halfpenny4 ,out of doubt their clamours and stirs be to none other end1 but to maintain more shamefully and naughtily ill-gotten things4 ,nowadays the pardoners complain of us1 the dataries1 the pope's collectors1 the bawds1 and others which take gain to be godliness1 and serve not ,jesus ,christ but their own bellies4 ,many a day ago1 and in the old world1 a wonderful great advantage grew hereby to these kinds of people4 ,but now they reckon1 all is lost unto them1 that ,christ gaineth4 ,the pope himself maketh a great complaint at this present1 that charity in people is waxen cold4 ,and why so1 trow ye8 ,forsooth1 because his profits decay more and more4 ,and for this cause doth he hale us into hatred1 all that ever he may1 laying load upon us with despiteful railings1 and condemning us for heretics1 to the end1 they that understand not the matter may think there be no worse men upon earth than we be4 ,notwithstanding1 we in the mean season are never the more ashamed for all this2 neither ought we to be ashamed of the gospel4 ,for we set more by the glory of ,god1 than we do by the estimation of men4 ,we are sure all is true that we teach1 and we may not either go against our own conscience1 or bear any witness against ,god4 ,for if we deny any part of the ,gospel of ,jesus ,christ before men1 ,he on the other side will deny us before ,his ,father4 ,and if there be any that will still be offended1 and cannot endure ,christ's doctrine1 such1 say we1 be blind1 and leaders of the blind2 the truth1 nevertheless1 must be preached and preferred above all1 and we must with patience wait for ,god's judgment4 ,let these folk1 in the meantime1 take good heed what they do1 and let them be well advised of their own salvation1 and cease to hate and persecute the ,gospel of the ,son of ,god1 for fear lest they feel ,him once a redresser and revenger of ,his own cause4 ,god will not suffer ,himself to be made a mocking stock4 ,the world espieth a good while agone what there is a doing abroad4 ,this flame1 the more it is kept down1 so much the more with greater force and strength doth it break out and fly abroad4 ,their unfaithfulness shall not disappoint ,god's faithful promise4 ,and if they shall refuse to lay away this their hardness of heart1 and to receive the ,gospel of ,christ1 then shall publicans and sinners go before them into the kingdom of ,heaven4 ,god and the ,father of our ,lord ,jesus ,christ open the eyes of them all1 that they may be able to see that blessed hope1 whereunto they have been called2 so as we may altogether in one glorify ,him alone1 who is the true ,god1 and also that same ,jesus ,christ1 whom ,he sent down to us from ,heaven1 unto whom1 with the ,father and the ,holy ,ghost1 be given all honour and glory everlastingly4 ,so be it4