,,history ,,and ,,ecclesiastical ,,relations ,,of ,,the ,,churches ,,of ,,the ,,presbyterial ,,order1 ,,at ,,amoy1 ,,china4 ,,by ,,rev4 ,j4,v4,n4 ,,talmage1 ,,missionary ,,of ,,the ,,prot4 ,,ref4 ,,dutch ,,church4 ,new ,york3 ,,wynkoop1 ,,hallenbeck ,,thomas1 ,,printers1 #aac ,,fulton ,,st4 #ahfc4 ,,preface4 ,to the ,ministers1 ,elders1 and ,members of the ,reformed ,dutch ,church3 ,it is proper that ,i give some reasons for the publication of this paper4 ,the importance of the subject of the ecclesiastical organization of the churches gathered in heathen lands1 ,i conceive to be a sufficient reason4 ,those who may differ in regard to the views set forth in this paper1 will not dispute the importance of the subject4 ,instead of the questions involved having been settled by any of the ,presbyterian ,denominations of this country 7the ,dutch ,church included among them71 by experiments in ,india or any other heathen land1 very few of the churches gathered from the heathen1 by these various ,denominations1 have yet arrived at a stage of development sufficient for practical application of the experiment4 7,see foot-note1 page #afj47 ,there are1 however1 a few mission churches1 where the subject is now becoming one of vast practical importance4 ,the ,church at ,amoy stands out prominent among these4 ,with the continuance of the divine blessing there will soon be many such4 ,hence the importance of the discussion1 and its importance now4 ,many experiments have been made in reference to the best way of conducting the work of missions4 ,the ,church has improved by them1 and has been compelled to unlearn many things4 ,we are continually returning towards the simple plan laid down in ,god's ,word4 ,as the ,church by experiment and by discussion has thus been led to retrace some of her steps in the preliminary work of missions1 should she not be ready to take advantage of experiment and discussion1 in reference to the ecclesiastical organization of the mission churches1 and stand ready to retrace some of her steps in this second stage of the work of missions1 if need be1 in order to conform more fully to the doctrines of our ,presbyterial church polity8 ,i would use the phrase ,scriptural church polity1 but ,i suppose it is the universal belief of our ,church1 that ,presbyterial polity is scriptural4 ,at any rate1 it is the duty of the ,church to examine the subject carefully4 ,she has nothing to fear from such examination4 ,she should fear to neglect it4 ,in addition to the importance of the subject in itself considered1 ,i have other reasons for discussing it at the present time4 ,there are mistaken impressions abroad in the ,church1 concerning the views and course of your missionaries at ,amoy1 which must be injurious to the cause of missions in our ,church4 ,it would seem to be a plain duty to correct these impressions4 ,i will quote an extract from a letter1 ,i recently received1 from an honored missionary of a sister ,church3 ,i have heard much1 and seen some notices in the papers of the battle you fought on the floor of ,synod1 and would like to hear your side of the subject from your own mouth1 as the question has also been a practical one with us4 99 99 99 99 99 ,we have our own ,presbytery1 and manage our own business1 and insist on not having too much of what they call the new science of ,missionary management2 a science which1 ,i believe1 has been cultivated far too assiduously4 ,it was this1 more than anything else1 which kept me from going out under the ,a4,b4,c4,f4,m41 and to ,amoy4 99 99 99 99 99 ,i hear1 however1 from some1 that what you and the brethren there had formed1 was some sort of loose ,congregational association4 ,if so1 ,i must judge against you1 for ,i believe in the jure divino of ,presbytery 7or ,classis if you choose so to call it71 and ,i think you and they should have been allowed to form a ,presbytery there1 and manage all your own affairs1 and that your ,boards at home should be content to consider themselves a committee to raise and send on the funds4 ,but it is hard for the ,d4 ,d's and big folk at home to come to that4 ,they think they must manage everything1 or all will go wrong2 while how little it is that they can be brought to know or realize of the real nature of the work abroad2 and then it is the old battle of patronage over again4 ,those who give the money must govern1 and those who receive it must give up their liberty1 and be no longer ,christ's freemen4 ,this is only a specimen1 one of many1 of the mistaken impressions abroad in the ,church concerning the views and doings of your ,missionaries4 ,may we not1 must we not1 correct them8 ,the letter also illustrates the evils resulting from allowing mistaken impressions to remain in the ,church uncorrected4 ,there has long been an impression in our ,church that the ,a4,b4,c4,f4,m4 interfered with the ecclesiastical affairs of our missions4 ,we have been informed that several of our young men1 before our ,church separated from that ,board1 were deterred thereby from devoting themselves to the foreign ,missionary work4 ,the writer of the above letter1 probably having more of the ,missionary spirit1 was not willing1 on that account1 to give up the work1 but was led to offer himself to the ,board of a sister ,church4 ,the ,mission at ,amoy1 and our ,church1 have thus been deprived of the benefit of his labors by means of an erroneous impression4 ,when we learned the fact of such an impression existing in this country1 we endeavored to correct it4 ,in our letter of #ahef1 to ,general ,synod1 we called particular attention to the subject4 ,here is a part of one sentence3 ,it seems to us a duty1 and we take this opportunity to bear testimony1 that neither ,dr4 ,anderson1 nor the ,prudential ,committee have ever1 in any communication which we have received from them1 in any way1 either by dictation1 or by the expression of opinions1 interfered in the least with our ecclesiastical relations4 ,we failed to get that letter published1 and ,i find the erroneous impression still prevalent1 working its mischief in the churches4 ,but to return to the subject of the mistaken impressions concerning the views of your ,missionaries at ,amoy4 ,these impressions would have been partly corrected in the ,church1 if the report of the proceedings of ,synod1 in ,the ,christian ,intelligencer1 had been more correct on this subject4 ,that paper states1 that1 on ,friday evening1 ,rev4 ,mr4 ,talmage then took the floor1 and addressed the ,synod for nearly two hours1 but does not give a single word or idea uttered by him4 ,it is careful to report the only unkind words against the ,missionaries uttered during that whole discussion1 which1 with this single exception1 was conducted in a spirit of the utmost ,christian kindness2 but does not give a word of the remarks made on the ,friday evening previous1 on that very subject1 in justification of their course4 ,it seems to be a duty1 though painful1 to speak particularly on this subject4 ,look at the following language3 ,i know that we are told that the hybrid organization i4e4 the ,classis1 a court of the ,church of ,christ1 at ,amoy which now exists is every way sufficient and satisfactory2 that it is the fruit of ,christian love1 and that to disturb it would be rending the body of ,christ4 ,here one might ask1 how it came to exist at all1 seeing that this ,synod spoke so plainly1 and unambiguously1 in #aheg2 and ,i1 for one1 cordially concur in the remark of the elder1 ,schieffelin1 that the brethren there 'deserve censure4' ,we do not censure them1 nor do we propose to do so2 but that they deserve it is undeniable4 ,but the point is1 how can our disapproval of the mongrel ,classis mar the peace of the ,amoy brethren8 ,this language was used by the ,president of ,synod1 after asking whether the ,synod was ready for the question1 the question being about to be put1 when an attempt to answer it seemed altogether out of place4 ,in all the circumstances it seemed almost like the charge of a judge to a jury4 ,i do not say that there is any improper spirit manifested1 or opprobrious expressions employed in this language1 or that the ,president did wrong in waiting until the discussion was over before he uttered it1 or that the missionaries are not deserving of such severe censure--of all these things let the ,church judge--but ,i do say that the spreading of such language and such charges broadcast1 before the ,church and before the world1 demands that the missionaries be heard in self-defense1 or1 which is all they ask1 that they be allowed to state the facts and views which guided them in their action4 ,doubtless it was an oversight that such a one-sided report on this subject appeared in ,the ,christian ,intelligencer4 ,at least it was not at all designed that injustice be done to the ,missionaries1 but1 unless they be allowed to speak for themselves1 is not injustice done them8 ,it seemed to me that a very mistaken impression concerning the views expressed by me1 near the close of the session of ,synod1 was also conveyed by the ,report4 ,this ,i attempted to correct by a note to the editor1 but even the right of correcting my own sentiments and language was refused1 my note garbled1 and1 as ,i thought1 my views again misrepresented4 ,more than this1 the implied charge is published to the world that ,i am seeking to excite dissension among the churches1 and opposition to the constituted authority of ,synod4#a ,it would therefore be great dereliction of duty to return to my field of labor1 allowing my own views1 and the views of my co-laborers1 to be thus mistaken in the ,church1 and such serious charges against our course unanswered4 ,i am not aware that any censorship of the press has been authorized by ,general ,synod4 ,surely if others are allowed to be heard for us we should be allowed the right to be heard for ourselves4 ,we were unable by writing from ,amoy to get our views before the ,church4 ,i must1 therefore1 while in this land1 endeavor to make them known4 ,footnote #a3 ,if this language seem too strong or uncalled for1 see ,appendix ,b1 at the end4 ,i have been advised by some to delay the publication of this paper a few months1 until we learn the effect of the decision of the last ,synod on the ,mission at ,amoy1 and see what course the ,church there may feel compelled to adopt4 ,i do not see the force of such advice4 ,whatever may be the course of the ,church there1 the intrinsic merits of the question will be unchanged thereby4 ,besides this1 ,i cannot afford such delay4 ,i have been looking forward to as speedy return as possible to that field of labor4 ,would it be right to leave the whole subject to the eve of my departure1 and thus shut myself off from the possibility of defending or further explaining my views1 if such defense or explanation be called for8 ,i have been asked1 ,why not bring this subject before the ,church through the columns of the ,christian ,intelligencer8 ,this question1 after what has been said above1 need not now be answered4 ,doubtless the editor is responsible for what appears in his columns4 ,the only resource left the ,mission seems to be the one ,i have chosen4 ,i regret the necessity of discussing the subject1 since the action of the last ,synod1 but we could not discuss it previously without running counter to the same advice which would now restrain us4 ,i do not at all suppose1 however1 that by the course ,i am taking ,i shall become guilty of disobedience to the authority of ,synod4 ,neither should it be the occasion of creating dissensions in the churches4 ,the discussion of any important subject in a proper spirit is neither opposed to the doctrines of the ,sacred ,scriptures1 nor to the doctrines of the ,dutch ,church1 and ,i am willing to leave it to those who may read the following pages to decide whether there be in them any manifestation of an improper spirit4 ,we1 and those who differ from us1 are all seeking the same end1 i4e4 the glory of ,god through the advancement of his cause4 ,all that ,i ask for myself and co-laborers is an impartial hearing4 ,perhaps1 in order to guard against any mistaken impression1 ,i ought to add that the relations between the ,missionaries and the ,board of ,foreign ,missions of our ,church1 have always been of the most pleasant character4 ,whatever have been their differences of opinion on this most important subject1 or on any other subject1 they have not caused1 so far as ,i am aware1 the least interruption of that warm ,christian friendship which has always existed1 or been the occasion of one unkind utterance in all their mutual correspondence4 ,why not so8 ,cannot ,christians reason with each other1 even on subjects of the highest moment1 in such a spirit as not only to avoid animosities1 but even to increase personal friendship8 ,if this paper should prove the occasion of discussion in our ,church1 let me express the hope that such discussion will be carried on in such a spirit4 ,j4,v4,n4 ,,talmage4 ,bound ,brook1 ,n4,j41 ,october1 #ahfc4 ,,history ,,and ,,ecclesiastical ,,relations ,,of ,,the ,,churches ,,of ,,the ,,presbyterial ,,order1 ,,at ,,amoy1 ,,china4 ,the first ,protestant ,missionaries at ,amoy arrived there in the year #ahdb4 ,they were ,dr4 ,abeel of the ,american ,reformed ,dutch ,church1 and ,bishop ,boone of the ,american ,episcopal ,church4 ,after these there arrived ,missionaries of the ,london ,missionary ,society1 of the ,american ,presbyterian ,church1 of the ,english ,presbyterian ,church1 and others of the ,american ,reformed ,dutch ,church4 ,bishop ,boone soon left ,amoy1 and no others of his ,church have since then been stationed there4 ,the ,american ,presbyterian ,mission was removed to other parts of ,china4 ,at the present time there are three ,missions at ,amoy1 viz43 the ,missions of the ,american ,reformed ,dutch ,church1 of the ,london ,missionary ,society1 and of the ,english ,presbyterian ,church4 ,the ,missionaries of the ,london ,missionary ,society are ,independents or ,congregationalists1 and have organized their churches after the ,congregational order4 ,thus their churches form a distinct ,denomination1 and nothing further need be said of them in this paper4 ,the first ,missionary of the ,english ,presbyterian ,church at ,amoy was ,dr4 ,jas4 ,young4 ,he arrived in ,may1 #ahej4 ,at that time there were two ,missionaries connected with our 7,r4,d4,c47 ,mission1 viz43 ,rev4 ,e4 ,doty1 on the ground1 and ,rev4 ,j4,v4,n4 ,talmage1 absent on a visit to the ,united ,states4 ,there were then under our care six native church members4 ,five of them had been baptized by our ,missionaries at ,amoy4 ,the other had been baptized in ,siam1 by a ,congregationalist or ,presbyterian ,minister of the ,a4,b4,c4,f4,m4 ,dr4 ,young1 being a physician1 and not an ordained ,minister1 instead of commencing an independent work1 inasmuch as our doctrines and order of church government did not essentially differ from those of his own ,church1 very naturally became more especially associated with us in our work4 ,a school under the care of our ,mission1 of which ,mr4 ,doty did not feel able to continue the charge1 was passed over to his care4 ,he also rendered medical assistance to the ,missionaries1 and to the ,chinese1 both in ,amoy1 and by occasional tours in the country4 ,in his labors he was usually assisted by native ,christians under our care4 ,the first ordained ,missionary of the ,english ,presbyterian ,church1 at ,amoy1 was ,rev4 ,william ,c4 ,burns4 ,he joined ,dr4 ,young in ,july1 #ahea4 ,while he rendered considerable assistance to the brethren of the ,london ,missionary ,society1 being ready to preach the gospel at every opportunity1 providentially he became especially associated with us1 and with the native ,christians under our care4 ,a remarkable outpouring of the ,spirit of ,god had accompanied the labors of ,rev4 ,mr4 ,burns1 in his native land4 ,so the remarkable outpouring of that same ,spirit in ,amoy1 and vicinity1 occurred sometime after his arrival1 and much of this good work was manifestly connected with his labors4 ,the permanent work in the country around ,amoy commenced through his instrumentality1 in connection with native members of the church under our care4 ,we desired him to take the charge of that work1 and gather a church at ,peh-chui-ia1 under the care of the ,english ,presbyterian ,church4 ,but1 at his urgent request1 we took the pastoral oversight of the work in that region1 administering the sacraments to the native converts4 ,rev4 ,james ,johnstone1 of the same ,mission1 arrived in ,december1 #ahec4 ,he undertook the care of the church being gathered at ,peh-chui-ia1 assuming1 in behalf of the ,english ,presbyterian ,church1 all the expenses thereof1 we continuing the pastoral oversight until such time as his knowledge of the language should be sufficient to enable him to relieve us4 ,in consequence of the ill-health of ,dr4 ,young1 he and ,mr4 ,burns left ,amoy1 in ,august1 #ahed4 ,mr4 ,johnstone1 in consequence of ill-health1 left in ,may1 #ahee1 before he was able to relieve us fully from the pastoral care of the church at ,peh-chui-ia4 ,rev4 ,carstairs ,douglas1 of the same ,mission1 arrived at ,amoy in ,july1 #ahee1 and immediately entered on the work of ,mr4 ,johnstone1 we continuing the pastoral oversight of the church at ,peh-chui-ia1 until his knowledge of the language enabled him to assume it4 ,before the brethren of the ,english ,presbyterian ,church were able to assume pastoral responsibility1 the work spread from ,peh-chui-ia to ,chioh-be4 ,it was thought best that we take the charge of that station4 ,after the departure of ,dr4 ,young1 all the ,missionaries of the ,english ,presbyterian ,church1 for several years1 were unmarried men4 ,therefore1 they resolved to devote themselves more especially to work in the country1 leaving to our especial care the church in the city of ,amoy1 and the one out-station at ,chioh-be4 ,amoy was still necessarily their place of residence4 ,all their work at ,amoy was in connection with the church under our care4 ,in the country we assisted them as we had opportunity1 and as occasion demanded4 ,they did the same for us4 ,in fact1 we and they have worked together as one ,church1 and almost as one ,mission1 with the exception of keeping pecuniary matters distinct4 ,more recently the ,english ,presbyterian ,mission was reinforced by one member with a family1 and it seemed a proper time for them to commence more direct work at ,amoy4 ,a very populous suburb 7,e-mng-kang7 was selected as a suitable and promising station4 ,they assumed the immediate care1 and all the expense of it1 employing1 as at all the other stations1 indiscriminately1 members of their own or of our churches as helpers4 ,we are not afraid that our ,church will ever blame us for working thus harmoniously1 and unitedly1 with our ,english ,presbyterian brethren1 and we feel confident that none of her ,missionaries would consent to work on any other principles4 ,if there be any who1 under similar circumstances1 would refuse thus to work1 this would be sufficient evidence that they had mistaken their calling4 ,if any blame is to be attached to the course the ,missionaries have pursued1 it is not that they have worked thus in harmony and unison with the ,english ,presbyterian brethren1 but that they have failed to keep the churches under their care ecclesiastically distinct4 ,some do feel inclined to censure us for this4 ,it must be1 however1 because of some great misapprehension on their part4 ,the ,synod has distinctly uttered a contrary sentiment1 i4e4 that the course of the ,missionaries is not censurable4 ,we do not believe that our ,church1 when she understands the true state of the case1 will ever censure us on this account4 ,it would not be according to the spirit of her ,master4 ,he prayed that ,his people might be one1 but he never prayed for their separation from each other4 ,when separation is necessary1 it is a necessary evil4 ,but more of this hereafter4 ,our ,church might well have censured us1 if we had adopted lower principles as her representatives in building up the ,church of ,christ in ,china4 ,the first organization of a church at ,amoy under our care1 by the ordination of a ,consistory1 took place in #ahef4 ,the ,missionaries of our ,board then on the ground were ,doty and ,talmage4 ,mr4 ,douglas was the only ,missionary of the ,english ,presbyterian ,church4 7,mr4 ,joralmon1 of our ,church1 arrived between the time of the election and the ordination of office-bearers47 ,when the time came for the organization of the ,church1 we felt a solemn responsibility resting on us4 ,we supposed it to be our duty to organize the ,church in ,china with reference simply to its own welfare1 and efficiency in the work of evangelizing the heathen around4 ,believing 7after due deliberation7 that the order of our own ,church in ,america would best secure this end1 of course we adopted it4 ,we did not suppose that we were sent out to build up the ,american ,dutch ,church in ,china1 but a ,church after the same order1 a purely ,chinese ,church4 ,how much the growth and efficiency of our ,church in this country has been promoted by retaining 7rather inserting7 the term ,dutch in her name1 ,i will not now attempt to discuss4 ,i suppose the principal argument in favor thereof is found in the fact that our ,church1 in the first instance1 was a colony from ,holland4 ,the ,church in ,china is not a colony from ,holland1 or ,america4 ,we must not1 therefore1 entail on her the double evil of both the terms ,american and ,dutch or the single evil of either of these terms4 ,your ,missionaries will never consent to be instrumental in causing such an evil4 ,we had already adopted the order and customs of our ,church at home1 so far as they could be adopted in an unorganized ,church4 ,the ,english ,presbyterian brethren had adopted the same4 ,they found that there were no differences of any importance between us and them2 the churches being gathered under our care and under theirs--growing out of each other and being essentially one--neither we nor they could see any sufficient reason for organizing two distinct denominations4 ,especially had we no reason for such a course1 inasmuch as they were willing even to conform to our peculiarities4 ,we most cordially invited ,mr4 ,douglas to unite with us in the organization of the ,church1 and he as cordially accepted of the invitation4 ,in reference to this subject ,mr4 ,douglas wrote to their ,corresponding ,secretary as follows3 ,i need hardly say that this transaction does not consist in members of one church joining another1 nor in two churches uniting1 but it is an attempt to build up on the soil of ,china1 with the lively stones prepared by the great ,master-builder1 an ecclesiastical body holding the grand doctrines enunciated at ,westminster and ,dort1 and the principles of ,presbyterian polity embraced at the ,reformation by the purest churches on the continent and in ,britain2 it will also be a beautiful point in the history of this infant ,church that the under-builders employed in shaping and arranging the stones1 were messengers of two different 7though not differing17 churches in the two great nations on either side of the ,atlantic4 ,the course of ,mr4 ,douglas met with the decided approval of their ,secretary1 and1 as he had reason then to believe1 and has since fully learned1 with the approval of their ,church4 ,we also sent a communication to our ,church1 addressing it to ,general ,synod4 ,we directed it to the care of one of our prominent ministers1 for a long time ,secretary of the ,board1 with the request that it be laid before the ,church1 using language as follows3 ,you will1 doubtless1 receive this paper some months before the time for the next meeting of that ,body ,general ,synod4 ,we would suggest therefore1 that the paper be published1 that the members of the next ,general ,synod may have the matter before them1 and be the better prepared to make such disposition of it as the subject may demand4 ,we feel that the subject is one of very grave importance1 c4 ,our communication was laid before the ,board of ,foreign ,missions4 ,they designated it a ,memorial1 and decided that they had no right to publish it4 ,of course we had no means of publishing it ourselves4 ,it was laid before ,synod among other papers of the ,board4 ,the action of ,synod on the subject was as follows 7,minutes of ,synod1 #aheg1 pp4 #bbe-bbg73 ,among the papers submitted to the ,synod is an elaborate document from the brethren at ,amoy1 giving the history of their work there1 of its gradual progress1 of their intimate connection with ,missionaries from other bodies1 of the formation of the ,church now existing there1 and expressing their views as to the propriety and feasibility of forming a ,classis at that station4 ,in reply to so much of this paper as respects the establishment of individual churches1 we must say that while we appreciate the peculiar circumstances of our brethren1 and sympathize with their perplexities1 yet it has always been considered a matter of course that ministers1 receiving their commission through our ,church1 and sent forth under the auspices of our ,board1 would1 when they formed converts from the heathen into an ecclesiastical body1 mould the organization into a form approaching as nearly as possible that of the ,reformed ,dutch ,churches in our own land4 ,seeing that the converted heathen1 when associated together1 must have some form of government1 and seeing that our form is1 in our view1 entirely consistent with1 if not required by1 the ,scriptures1 we expect it will in all cases be adopted by our ,missionaries1 subject1 of course1 to such modifications as the peculiar circumstances may for the time render necessary4 ,the converts at ,amoy1 as at ,arcot and elsewhere1 are to be regarded as 'an integral part' of our ,church1 and as such are entitled to all the rights and privileges which we possess4 ,and so in regard to the formation of a ,classis4 ,the ,church at home will undoubtedly expect the brethren to associate themselves into a regular ecclesiastical organization1 just as soon as enough materials are obtained to warrant such measure with the hope that it will be permanent4 ,we do not desire churches to be prematurely formed in order to get materials for a ,classis1 nor any other exercise of violent haste4 ,but we equally deprecate unnecessary delay1 believing that a regular organization will be alike useful to our brethren themselves1 and to those who1 under them1 are training for the first office-bearers in the ,christian ,church on heathen ground4 ,as to the difficulties suggested in the memorial1 respecting the different ,particular ,synods to which the brethren belong1 and the delays of carrying out a system of appellate jurisdiction covering ,america and ,china1 it is enough to say3--7#a7 ,that the ,presbyterian ,church 7,o4,s47 finds no insuperable difficulties in carrying into operation her system which comprehends ,presbyteries and ,synods in ,india as well as here2 and 7#b7 ,that whatever hindrances may at any time arise1 this body will1 in humble reliance upon the divine aid and blessing1 undertake to meet and remove them as far as possible4 ,the ,church at home assumes the entire responsibility of this matter1 and only asks the brethren abroad to carry out the policy1 held steadily in view from the first moment when our ,missions began4 ,the following resolutions are recommended3 ,resolved1 #a4 ,that the ,synod view with great pleasure the formation of churches among the converts from heathenism1 organized according to the established usages of our branch of ,zion4 #b4 ,that the brethren at ,amoy be directed to apply to the ,particular ,synod of ,albany to organize them into a ,classis so soon as they shall have formed churches enough to render the permanency of such an organization reasonably certain4 ,it should be noticed that1 in the foregoing ,report1 which was adopted by ,synod1 the most important question--the vital question--of our communication1 i4e4 the unity of the churches under the care of the ,english ,presbyterian ,missionaries and of us1 is entirely ignored2 and consequently1 without the fact being stated1 we were directed to divide those churches1 and form a part of them into a distinct ,denomination4 ,if the ,english ,presbyterian ,church had disapproved of the course of their ,missionaries in uniting with us in organizing the native churches with our peculiarities1 we think even that would have been strange4 ,it would have appeared to us as though they were sacrificing some of the essentials of ,presbyterianism for the sake of non-essentials1 for1 in our organization1 they found all that they hold essential in doctrine1 order1 and customs4 ,suppose the position of the two ,missions had been reversed1 they had been first on the ground1 and when we arrived we found the ,church being planted and beginning to grow up after their order4 ,if we had found in the ,church thus growing up all that we hold essential and important1 even though it had some little peculiarities which were theirs and not ours1 ought not our ,church to have permitted us to work with them1 as they have been permitted to work with us8 ,if such be not the true ,christian spirit1 than we frankly confess that we know not1 and despair of ever learning from the ,word of ,god1 what the ,christian spirit is on such a subject4 ,but whether such disapproval on the part of the ,english ,presbyterian ,church would have been strange or not1 it would not have been so strange as was the decision of our ,church1 that the churches organized by the ,english ,presbyterian brethren and by us--all one in fact1 growing out of each other1 and all adopting our order1 should not be organically one4 ,hence1 when we learned from our ,board the decision of ,synod1 we felt 7correctly or incorrectly7 that there must be some misapprehension4 ,surely our ,church cannot have correct views of our position1 and our course of proceeding4 ,hence1 we returned answer to the ,board as follows3--7,letter dated ,december #bc1 #aheg47 ,after speaking of our hearty approval of the course of our ,church in separating from the ,a4,b4,c4,f4,m41 though as individuals we took our leave of that ,board with feelings of sadness1 we remarked3 ,it seems proper to us also1 on the present occasion1 to allude to a subject deeply affecting the interests of the little ,church which ,god has graciously gathered by our instrumentality from among this people4 ,this ,church is now small1 but we trust that1 with a continuance of the ,divine blessing1 the 'little one' will soon 'become a thousand1' and the 'small one a strong nation4' ',the ,lord will hasten it in his time4' ,we love this ,church1 and cannot but watch over her interests with jealous care4 ,besides this1 the ,great ,shepherd has made us under-shepherds1 and commanded us to watch over the interests of this flock4 ,we gave a brief history of our work1 and an account of the present condition and peculiar circumstances of the churches here under our care1 and stated at considerable length our views in reference to the future ecclesiastical relations of these churches1 in a paper prepared for the information of our ,church at home1 and addressed to ,general ,synod4 ,the facts thus communicated ought to be known by the ,church4 ,it seems to us very unfortunate that that paper was not published according to our suggestion4 ,it stated facts of grave importance4 ,if we could have had a representative in ,general ,synod1 the previous publication of our paper might have been unnecessary4 ,but1 without such a representative1 it was hardly possible that the subject1 by a single reading of so long a document1 could be brought before the minds of all the members of ,synod with sufficient clearness4444 ,therefore it is not strange that some of the important points in the paper should have been entirely overlooked1 and also that certain grave misconceptions should have got abroad in the ,church concerning the views expressed by us4 ,so far as we can judge from the report of the proceedings of ,synod1 as given in ,the ,christian ,intelligencer1 one of the most important considerations--perhaps altogether the most important mentioned--why the ,church1 gathered by us here1 should not be an integral part of the ,church in ,america1 was entirely overlooked4 ,that consideration relates to the unity of ,christ's ,church4 ,our ,saviour prays3 ',holy ,father1 keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me1 that they may be one as we are one4' ',that they all may be one1 as thou1 ,father1 art in me1 and ,i in thee1 that they also may be one in us3 that the world may believe that thou hast sent me4 ,and the glory which thou gavest me1 ,i have given them1 that they may be one1 even as we are one4' ,will our ,church require of us1 will she desire that those here who are altogether one--one in doctrine1 one in their views of ,church order1 and one in mutual love--be violently separated into two ,denominations8 ,we cannot believe it4 ,suppose the case of two ,churches originally distinct4 ,by coming into close contact1 and becoming better acquainted with each other1 they find that they hold to the same doctrinal standards1 and they explain them in the same manner2 they have the same form of ,church government1 and their officers are chosen1 and set apart in the same way2 they have the same order of worship1 and of administering the sacraments2 all their customs1 civil1 social1 and religious1 are precisely alike1 and they love each other dearly2 should not such churches unite and form but one ,denomination8 ,yet1 such a supposition does not1 and cannot1 even after you allow all the likeness and unity between the two churches it is possible to conceive of1 represent the circumstances of the churches gathered by us1 and by our ,scotch brethren of the ,english ,presbyterian ,church4 ,our theirs and ours ,churches originally were one1 and still are one2 and the question is not whether those churches shall be united1 but1 shall they be separated8 ,possibly 7not probably7 the question will be asked1 why were these churches allowed originally to become one8 ,we answer1 ,god made them so1 and that without any plan or forethought on our part1 and now we thank him for his blessing that he has made them one1 and that he has blessed them because they are one4 ,that misconceptions have got abroad in our ,church concerning our views1 we have abundant evidence from various private letters4 ,they were written with the most kindly feelings towards us1 but evidently under the impression that we find difficulty in organizing our churches according to the order of the ,dutch ,church4 ,we have never found any difficulty of this kind4 ,it is true that when we were called to the solemn duty of commencing a church organization in an empire containing one-third of the inhabitants of the globe1 we gave the subject of church polity a more careful investigation than we had ever before given it4 ,the result of this investigation was a cordial 7and1 as we think1 intelligent7 approval of the order and forms of our own ,church4 ,we have commenced our organization according to the order of the ,dutch ,church1 and we expect to proceed1 as fast as the providence and grace of ,god lead the way1 after the same order2 and we use the forms of our own ,church4 ,our ,presbyterian brethren unite with us in these things4 ,but it is not strange that such misconceptions should be spread in the ,church4 ,they are the necessary result of publishing certain remarks made in ,synod concerning our paper1 without publishing the paper itself4 ,in the ,report of the ,synod1 ,synod's ,board1 ,board of ,foreign ,missions1 it is said3 ',it would have been well if the memorial had been placed1 in a printed form1 in the hands of the ministry4 ,this they the ,missionaries suggested1 but the ,board felt it was purely a ,synodical matter--that they could not act in the case4' ,with all due respect1 and with the kindest feelings1 we desire to make three remarks on this subject4 ,first4 ,we do not understand the principle on which the ,board felt called upon to decide whether our letter should be published or not4 ,it was not addressed to the ,board1 nor sent to the care of the ,board4 ,the opinion of members of the ,board as individuals might have been asked1 but we suppose that the ,board in their official capacity had nothing to do with the paper4 ,secondly4 ,inasmuch as the paper emanated from us1 if 'it would have been well' to have had it published1 our suggestion was a sufficient warrant for its publication4 ,the responsibility would have been ours4 ,it had not yet become a ,synodical matter4 ,afterwards it would have been a legitimate question for the ,synod to decide whether they would entertain a paper coming before them in such a manner4 ,this question might well have been left to ,general ,synod4 ,thirdly4 ,a short time previous to the writing of that paper1 unless our memory is greatly at fault1 a communication was received from the ,arcot ,mission 7or ,classis of ,arcot71 addressed to ,general ,synod1 which was thus published1 according to the request of the ,arcot brethren1 and without the authority of ,synod4 ,our position is a somewhat painful one4 ,we desire to give offense to no one1 and we do not wish to appear before the ,church as disputants4 ,we have no controversy with any4 ,we have neither the time nor inclination for controversy4 ,we are 'doing a great work' and cannot 'come down4' ,yet1 our duty to these ,churches here1 and to the ,church at home1 and to our ,master1 demands of us imperatively1 that we state fully and frankly our views4 ,we have the utmost confidence in our ,church4 ,we have proved this by endeavoring to get our views fully known4 ,and we feel grateful for the spirit of kindness towards us manifested in the action of ,synod1 and also in the letters received from fathers and brethren in the ministry1 notwithstanding their misconception of our views4 ,but1 we have also learned1 how easily our views may be mistaken4 ,in our paper1 addressed to ,general ,synod1 when discussing the difficulties in the way of the ,synod's jurisdiction over churches so far removed in time1 distance1 and circumstances1 we remarked3--',will written correspondence supply the place of representation8 ,it would place our ,classis under great disadvantages4 ,there must usually be a delay of one or two years on every subject on which there is need of a decision by either ,synod4 ,if anything is not understood1 or is misunderstood1 in our communications1 there will be no one to explain for us4 ,difficulties of this kind1 from want of knowledge of the civil and social circumstances of this people may frequently occur4 ,could we have representatives from among us1 they could usually be easily explained2 but without this representation1 they can only be explained by a long correspondence1 which may cause years of delay4' ,the whole of this misunderstanding1 which has arisen out of our first communication1 and the length of time and the amount of correspondence which may yet be necessary1 before we can see 'eye to eye1' give a striking illustration of the force of these remarks4 ,so far as the preamble and resolutions of the ,synod of #aheg embody the doctrines1 and what we supposed to be the policy of our ,church1 we heartily agreed with them4 ,of course we were pained to see that they implied1 that1 in organizing a ,church at ,amoy1 we had not proceeded according to the order of our ,church1 or had found great difficulty in doing so4 ,this was altogether a mistake1 and was already producing evil results4 ,we think there is another mistake in the preamble4 ,it seems small1 but because of this fact1 and of its plausibility1 it has done more1 perhaps1 than anything else in leading our ,church into the false position which she seems now to occupy4 ,therefore1 we should examine it with some care4 ,it is the assumption1 as a matter of course1 that1 the converts at ,amoy are an integral part of our ,church1 in this country4 ,what made them so8 ,is it because they were converted through the instrumentality of the preaching of our ,missionaries8 ,this is a new doctrine1 that a convert as a matter of course belongs to the ,church of the preacher through whose instrumentality he has been led unto ,christ4 ,perhaps it was the doctrine of some of the ,corinthians1 when they said1 ,i am of ,paul1 and ,i of ,apollos1 c41 but it was not the doctrine of the ,apostle who reproved them4 ,besides this1 how shall we know which of them were converted through our instrumentality8 ,the ,english ,presbyterian brethren and ourselves have preached indiscriminately4 ,is it because they were baptized by our ,missionaries8 ,but many of them were baptized by the ,english ,presbyterian brethren4 ,they have baptized in our churches1 and we in theirs4 ,if they be an integral part of the ,dutch ,church in ,america1 they are also an integral part of the ,presbyterian ,church in ,england4 ,we1 it is true1 baptized a majority1 say two-thirds4 ,are they1 then1 two-thirds of an integral part in ,america1 and one-third of an integral part in ,england8 ,no4 ,the whole is a fallacy4 ,each individual ,church there is an integral part of the whole of them4 ,all together1 they form an integer4 ,they might by the act of our ,church1 and a correlative act on their own part1 become an integral part of the ,church in ,america8 ,in a similar way they might become an integral part of the ,church in ,england4 ,they are now an integer of themselves4 ,to make one portion of them an integral part of the ,church in this country1 and another portion an integral part of the ,church in ,england1 is to be guilty of causing a violent rupture4 ,we felt that the consequences were so momentous1 that1 before we should allow ourselves to be instrumental in thus 7as we supposed7 rending the ,body of ,christ at ,amoy1 we should make another effort to get the facts before the ,church4 ,as yet1 we could not1 if we would1 carry out the resolution of ,synod1 and organize a ,classis in connection with the ,particular ,synod of ,albany1 for1 it was not till several years after1 only very recently1 that we had materials enough to render the permanency of such an organization reasonably certain4 ,therefore we wrote1 as above1 under date of ,december #bc1 #aheg1 and frequently wrote on the subject1 as occasion offered4 ,although our views were not made public 7the ,board judging that they had no right1 or that it would not be for the good of the ,church1 and the interests of the ,mission1 to publish them71 still we continued to prosecute our labors1 in connection with the ,english ,presbyterian brethren1 receiving and giving mutual assistance4 ,we were encouraged thus to continue our work3 #a4 ,because of letters we received from home1 some of them written by individuals who were able advocates of the decision of the ,synod of #aheg4 ,they told us that it could not be otherwise than that a separation must come between us and the brethren of the ,english ,presbyterian ,church1 but they would not have us inaugurate that separation4 #b4 7and more important7 ,because a marvelous blessing from on high was attending our labors4 #c4 7and most important7 ,because we knew this harmonious and mutual assistance to be entirely in accordance with the spirit of the ,gospel4 ,in process of time a ,church was organized at ,chioh-be by the appointment of elders and deacons1 then at ,peh-chui-ia1 then at ,mapeng1 and then the ,church at ,amoy was divided into two distinct organizations4 ,thus we had five organized churches1 all of our order--the elders and deacons chosen and set apart according to our ,forms1 and all our ,forms in use so far as there was yet occasion for them4 ,two of these churches were under the especial care of the ,english ,presbyterians1 and pecuniarily the work was sustained by funds collected in ,england and ,scotland4 ,the other three were under our especial care4 ,the pecuniary expenses1 beyond what the native churches could themselves raise1 were borne by our ,church at home4 ,one of the essential principles of our ,church polity is1 that individual ,churches are not independent of each other4 ,they are members one of another4 ,they are to be subject to each other4 ,they are individual parts of a whole4 ,each part should be subject to the whole4 ,hence the necessity of higher judicatories4 ,thus we felt that these five churches had a right to an ecclesiastical organization1 by which they might enjoy this essential principle of ,presbyterianism4 ,i trust we shall hear no more of the charge that the ,missionaries at ,amoy are ,congregationalists4 ,but we were afraid to give this organization to the native churches1 lest we should give offense at home4 ,we knew that we were misunderstood1 and as yet could see no way to make the ,church acquainted with our position and our views4 ,if the ,master should plainly call us to go forward1 of course we must obey1 and leave the results with ,him4 ,these churches1 having grown out of each other1 were essentially one1 and were as closely united together as it was possible for them to be1 without a formal organization4 ,the first formal meeting of all these churches was held at ,chioh-be 7a church under our care71 in #ahfa4 ,no ecclesiastical power was assumed4 ,the next similar meeting was held in ,april1 #ahfb1 in the churches at ,amoy4 ,this was still more formal4 ,it was composed of all the ,missionaries of our own and of the ,english ,presbyterian ,church1 and of one representative ,elder from each of the five organized churches4 ,this body may be called an incipient ,classis4 ,the only ecclesiastical power exercised1 however1 was connected with church discipline4 ,heretofore each individual ,church1 in connection with the ,missionaries1 had exercised the power of discipline1 even to excommunication4 ,now certain cases of excommunication were referred by individual ,consistories to1 and acted on by1 this body4 ,is it necessary to defend such acts8 ,we felt that if each individual church could exercise such power1 and the principles of our ,presbyterianism be scriptural1 then could a body1 composed of the representatives of these churches1 together with the ,missionaries1 with safety exercise such power4 ,it was approaching as nearly as possible to the practice of our ,church at home4 ,we expected soon to be called to the performance of ecclesiastical acts more momentous4 ,already had two of the churches chosen two of the native members1 who were now engaged in careful study1 that in due time they might be set apart to the office of the ,ministry of the ,word1 and ordained pastors of the churches respectively choosing them4 ,but for reasons given above we would not go forward faster than we were plainly led by the hand of ,providence4 ,therefore1 while the ,missionaries1 in presence of this assembly1 examined these pastors-elect1 in reference to their qualifications for the office of ,pastor1 the body1 as such1 took no part in the examination4 ,this incipient ,classis met next in the autumn of the same year at ,peh-chui-ia1 a church under the care of the ,english ,presbyterian brethren4 ,at this meeting it became a real ,classis1 not fully developed as a ,classis in a mature ,church1 but possessing the constituent elements and performing the functions of a ,classis4 ,not only were there cases of discipline to act on1 but a distinct application was made by one of the churches1 that a pastor be ordained1 and placed over them4 ,the body decided1 not only that they had the right1 but that the plain call of the ,great ,head of the ,church made it their duty to go forward in this matter4 ,preliminary steps were taken1 other meetings of ,classis were appointed and held1 candidates were examined1 calls presented and approved1 until early in the present year the ,first and ,second ,churches at ,amoy had each a native pastor ordained and installed over them4 ,by the authority of this ,classis1 in the early part of this year1 a third church was organized at ,amoy according to our order4 ,it is in the suburb called ,e-mng-kang1 and is under the especial care of the ,english ,presbyterian brethren1 as mentioned in a previous part of this paper4 ,so now there are six organized churches1 all of the same order1 and some others almost ready to be organized4 ,if the ,missionaries at ,amoy have been guilty of any great mistake1 it has been in this matter of forming such a ,classis1 and proceeding to the ordination and installation of native pastors1 and the organization of new churches4 ,therefore1 this subject demands a careful examination4 ,when we commenced the work among the heathen1 it was found that the ,constitution of our ,church had made no provision for such work beyond the simple ordaining of men as ,missionaries4 ,we might preach the gospel1 but no provision was made for receiving into church fellowship1 administering the sacraments1 electing and ordaining office-bearers1 and all the incipient steps of the organization of the ,church from among the heathen4 ,the ,constitution was made for the government of a ,church already organized and matured1 and in ,america2 therefore1 it is not strange that such things were not provided for4 ,our duty seemed very plain4 ,we must fall back on the great principles of church government taught in the ,word of ,god4 ,we believed these principles to be set forth in the ,constitution1 and other standards of our ,church4 ,when1 through the instrumentality of the preached ,word1 men gave satisfactory evidence that they had experienced the renewing of the ,holy ,ghost1 without the advice of ,consistories1 by virtue of our office of ,ministers of the ,word1 we administered to them the sacrament of baptism1 thus admitting them into the church4 ,now the ,lord's ,supper must be administered to these believers1 baptism to their infant children1 and to new converts1 and the discipline of ,god's house maintained4 ,by virtue of that same office1 and by virtue of the authority given by the ,master to his ,church1 we felt that we had the right1 aye1 that it was our bounden duty1 to perform such acts4 ,we could not yet for a long time set apart a proper ,consistory1 but we must not therefore be lords over ,god's heritage4 ,in receiving new members1 and in all acts of discipline1 we must advise with the church already gathered4 ,the church grew1 and in due time a ,consistory was called for2 must the work stop1 because the ,constitution had made no provision8 ,no4 ,the little church had the right to choose men1 and having chosen suitable men1 it was our duty to ordain them4 ,the authority we thus exercised was not usurped1 but was implied in the commission we received from our ,master through the ,church4 ,the same may be said of the authority of the brethren at ,amoy1 when1 in connection with the representative elders of the various churches1 they proceeded to the ordination of native pastors1 and the organization of new churches4 ,it was not necessary for the performance of every act to get a new commission from the ,church4 ,when the ,church sent us out1 the one commission contained all the authority necessary for the complete organization of the church4 ,it is an absurdity to deny1 on constitutional grounds1 the right of the ,missionaries to perform these last acts unless you deny their right to perform all their other acts except the simple preaching of the ,gospel4 ,their acts were all extra1 not contra constitutional4 ,if their authority thus to act be justified in reference to the former acts1 and denied in reference to the latter1 the justification and denial must be on other grounds than the ,constitution of our ,church4 ,will any one assert that the ,classis thus formed at ,amoy is not a ,classis de facto8 or that the native pastors ordained and installed by that body are not scripturally set apart to their offices1 and that its other acts are null and void8 ,if so1 then1 as yet1 there are no organized churches--no ,consistories--at ,amoy1 and there have been no scriptural baptisms1 for all ecclesiastical acts performed there1 have been performed on the same principles1 and by the same authority4 ,no one will have the hardihood to assert such a doctrine4 ,it will be admitted that there is a ,classis de facto at ,amoy4 ,then it is competent to perform all the functions of a ,classis4 ,but it will not be contended that that ,classis is a part of the ,dutch ,church in ,america4 ,yet it is essentially like a ,classis in ,america1 just so far as the present state of development of the ,church at ,amoy1 and its ,chinese character1 render likeness possible4 ,it is ,chinese1 not ,american4 ,the organization of such a ,church is what we always supposed required of us4 ,we never imagined that we were sent to organize the ,american ,dutch ,church in ,china4 ,if your ,missionaries are allowed to proceed1 and are not required to repel the ,english ,presbyterian brethren from their united labors with us1 there will be but one ,church at ,amoy of the ,presbyterian order4 ,with the continued blessing of ,god on such harmonious labor1 it will be the ,church of that region4 ,it will be dear to both the ,presbyterian ,church in ,england1 and to our ,church in this land1 and peculiarly dear to our ,church in this country1 because of its ,dutch characteristics4 ,your ,missionaries will still be your agents1 responsible to the ,church at home1 as they have always been4 ,the near relation to the ,church in this land1 which they have always held1 they desire to retain4 ,the late action of ,synod contemplates the formation of two denominations at ,amoy of the ,presbyterian order1 giving our peculiarities to one-half instead of to the whole1 thus producing rivalries1 injuring the efficiency of the native churches1 and making the relation of the ,missionaries to the ,church at home more distant1 thus weakening your hold on them1 and all1 as we think1 without any remunerating advantages4 ,but before we proceed to the discussion of this subject1 a few other preliminaries demand some attention4 ,the ,english ,presbyterians1 as they are accustomed to speak of all the ,classes of our ,church in ,america1 call this ,classis at ,amoy a ,presbytery4 ,hence the question has been put to us with all sincerity and gravity1 ,is it a ,classis1 or is it a ,presbytery8 ,some seem to be afraid that the ,church we are forming will be half ,dutch and half ,presbyterian1 and that it will soon be swallowed up by the ,presbyterians6 ,are there any ministers1 or elders1 or intelligent members of the ,dutch ,church1 who have yet to learn that a ,classis is a ,presbytery1 and that the ,dutch ,church is a ,presbyterian ,church8 ,surely not4 ,why1 then1 such questions and suggestions8 ,can they be designed to prejudice the ,church at home against the ecclesiastical body which has grown up at ,amoy8 ,we will not impute such a motive1 and1 therefore1 ,i merely say that we are surprised at all such remarks4 ,it is proper for the ,english ,presbyterian brethren to speak of the ,presbytery at ,amoy4 ,they never speak of it as an ,english ,presbytery4 ,they do not regard it as a part of the ,church in ,england1 but as a purely ,chinese ,church4 ,they have liberality enough to assist in building up such a ,church1 even though it has some things peculiar to us1 for it has all the essentials of their own order4 ,will it not seem to them that our ,church is deficient in liberality1 when they learn the decision of the last ,synod8 ,in connection with this subject1 it is proper to speak more particularly of the liberality of the ,english ,presbyterian ,church4 ,when it is remembered that that ,church is really a branch of the ,free ,church of ,scotland1 it will not be supposed that their liberality is the result of indifference to anything which they regard essential or important4 ,seldom has our world witnessed such sacrifice for the sake of principle as was exhibited by that ,church1 when she came out from the ,establishment4 ,their liberality is a beautiful illustration of the ,christian spirit4 ,the course of their ,missionaries at the first organization of a church at ,amoy1 and the approval thereof1 have been already alluded to4 ,in consequence of the recent formation of a ,classis1 the subject naturally came up again this year4 ,it was laid before their ,synod1 which met a few weeks previous to ours4 ,in the report of their ,foreign ,committee1 which corresponds to our ,board of ,foreign ,missions1 the following language is used in reference to the ,church at ,amoy3 ,as all the elements of ,presbyterian organization thus existed each church having native elders1 a further step was taken last ,april #ahfb1 when a ,presbytery was constituted at ,amoy by mutual consent1 consisting of all the ,american brethren and our own1 as well as representative elders from the several congregations4 ,its name is neither the ,greek ',presbytery' employed in this country1 nor is it the ,latin ',classis1' which has long been used in ,holland2 but it is ',tai ,tiong-lo-hoey1' or ,great ,meeting of ,elders1 genuine ,chinese1 and a hopeful earnest of the facility with which our representative and consultative system of polity will find its way among a sensible and self-governing people4 ,of course it is not intended that this ,presbytery should in any way come between the ,missionaries themselves and the ,committee or ,board by which the respective ,missions are administered at home2 but for the management of local matters1 for disposing of questions which may arise in the several congregations1 and in regard to which a session may require counsel or control2 and for the very important purpose of exemplifying in the most legitimate way ecclesiastical unity1 it is essential that ,missionaries and native office-bearers should come together in some such capacity4 ,the proceedings are conducted in ,chinese1 which is the only language understood by all the members of ,court1 and it is in ,chinese that the minutes are kept4 ,three meetings have already been held4 ,at the last1 held in ,january1 important business was transacted affecting the #ast and #b;d ,congregations of ,amoy1 both of which are under the immediate superintendence of the ,american ,mission4 ,each congregation is desirous of the settlement of a stated pastor1 and each has agreed to call a minister1 the one congregation promising a stipend of #ad a month1 and the other #ac4 ,the calls were sustained1 and the ,presbytery agreed to meet on ,february #bast1 to proceed with the 'trials' of the brethren thus elected4 ,as these proved satisfactory1 ,sabbath1 the #bith of last month1 was appointed as the day for their ordination4 ,dr4 ,peltz1 the esteemed ,corresponding ,secretary of the ,board of ,foreign ,missions of the ,r4,p4,d4,c4 of ,n4,a41 has apprised the ,committee1 that it is possible that a ,presbytery of this composite character may not secure the approval of their ,synod4 ,in separating from the ,a4,b4,c4,f4,m41 and in setting up a separate and ecclesiastically organized mission1 that ,synod was anxious to introduce into its different ,mission fields a system of ,church government which it believed to be scriptural1 and adapted to all lands4 ,consequently1 in these ,mission fields it sought to form ,classes or ,presbyteries which should be connected with ,provincial and ,general ,synods in the same way as are the ,classes on the ,american continent4 ,and ,dr4 ,peltz is apprehensive lest the ,general ,synod in ,america should regard as a deviation from this plan the amalgamation in one ,presbytery of their own agents with those of another ,church4 ,we are hopeful1 however1 that on further consideration1 our brethren in ,america may allow their ,missionaries in ,china to continue the present arrangement1 at least until such time as it is found that actual difficulties arise in the way of carrying it out4 ',behold how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity2' and there are few brethren towards whom we feel closer affinity than the members of that ,church1 which was represented of old by ,gomarus and ,witsius1 by ,voet and ,marck1 and ,bernard de ,moore1 and whose ,synod of ,dort preceded in time1 and pioneered in doctrine1 our own ,westminster ,assembly4 ,like them1 we love that ,presbyterianism and that ,calvinism which we hold in common1 and we wish to carry them wherever we go2 but we fear that it would not be doing justice to either1 and that it might compromise that name which is above every other1 if1 on the shores of ,china1 we were to unfurl a separate standard4 ,we would1 therefore1 not only respectfully recommend to the ,synod to allow its ,missionaries to unite1 ,presbyterially as well as practically1 with the brethren of the ,r4,d4,c42 but we would express the earnest hope that the ,synod of the sister ,church in ,america may find itself at liberty to extend to its ,missionaries a similar freedom4 ,these sentiments were unanimously adopted by the ,synod of the ,english ,presbyterian ,church4 ,it seems perfectly reasonable that two ,churches of ,christ so nearly alike1 in attempting to plant the ,church of ,christ in the same place in a heathen land1 should strive1 if possible1 to form their converts into one organization4 ,the existence of different ,denominations in the same place in any ,christian land1 at the best1 is only a necessary evil4 ,god may bring some good out of this evil1 but this is not a sufficient reason why we should create such divisions1 for their own sake4 ,hence1 the liberality of the ,english ,presbyterian ,church is so manifestly in accordance with the ,christian spirit1 that it might have attracted no especial notice from us4 ,but the proceedings of our own ,synod1 by contrast1 as it seems to us1 have forced it out in bold relief4 ,they were willing to support their ,missionaries in laboring with ours1 and building up a ,chinese ,church1 not differing essentially from theirs1 but with some characteristics peculiar to ours4 ,we1 though the ,church thus organized has not only all the essentials but all the peculiarities of our own ,church1 still refuse such ,christian co-operation1 preferring to rend asunder the ,church already formed1 and organize a part of it a distinct ,denomination1 connected with the ,church in ,america4 ,i cannot yet believe that such is the sentiment of our ,church4 ,there must be some great misapprehension4 ,but such is really the decision of the last ,synod4 ,here is the language of the ,committee which was adopted by the ,general ,synod3 ,your ,committee do not see any propriety in re-enacting the law of #aheg already quoted1 because it has never been repealed1 and remains therefore in full force and virtue4 ,nor1 if the reasoning in this report be correct1 would they have the law repealed1 believing as they do1 that the maintenance of the principle contained in it is essential to the success of our ,missionary operations in foreign parts1 and to the wholesome liberality of the ,church at home4 ,the ,committee are not prepared1 however1 to recommend that any violent or coercive resolutions should be adopted for the purpose of constraining our brethren in ,amoy to a course of procedure which would rudely sever the brotherly ties that unite them with the ,missionaries of the ,english ,presbyterian ,church4 ,but a ,christian discretion will enable them1 on the receipt of the decision of the present ,synod in this matter1 now under consideration1 to take such initial steps as are necessary to the speedy formation of a classis4 ,much must be left to their discretion1 prudence1 and judgment4 ,but of the wish and expectation of this ,synod to have their action conform1 as soon as may be1 to the resolutions of #aheg1 your ,committee think the brethren at ,amoy should be distinctly informed4 ,they therefore offer the following3 #a4 ,resolved1 that the ,general ,synod1 having adopted and tested its plan of conducting ,foreign ,missions1 can see no reason for abolishing it1 but1 on the contrary1 believe it to be adapted to the promotion of the best interests of the ,foreign ,missionary ,churches1 and of the denomination supporting them4 #b4 ,that the ,board of ,foreign ,missions be1 and hereby is1 instructed to send to our ,missionaries a copy or copies of this report1 as containing the well-considered deliverance of the ,synod respecting their present relations and future duty4 #c4 ,that the ,secretary of the ,foreign ,board be1 and hereby is1 directed to send to the ,rev4 ,dr4 ,hamilton1 of ,london1 ,convener of the ,presbyterian ,committee1 a copy of this ,report1 with a copy of the action of #aheg1 and that he inform him by letter of the wishes and expectations of the ,synod respecting the ecclesiastical relations which this body desires its churches in ,amoy to sustain to it4 ,the above is only an extract from the close of the ,report of the ,committee1 and contains the result at which they arrived4 ,in reference to it we would make three remarks4 7#a74 ,it 7,res4 #c7 seems rather a cavalier answer to the fraternal wish of the ,synod of the ,english ,presbyterian ,church1 as expressed in their action4 7#b47 ,the action of ,synod is made to rest 7,res4 #a7 on the fact that ,synod had tested this plan of conducting ,foreign ,missions4 ,if this be so1 and the plan had been found by experiment unobjectionable1 the argument is not without force4 ,but how and where has this test been applied1 and found so satisfactory8 ,our ,church has three ,missions among the heathen3 one in ,india1 one in ,china1 and one in ,japan4 ,has it been tested in ,japan8 ,no4 ,they have not yet a single native ,church4 ,has it been tested in ,china8 ,if so1 the ,missionaries were not aware of it4 ,the test applied there has been of an opposite character1 and has been wonderfully successful4 ,the test has only been applied in ,india1 and has only begun to be applied even there4 ,there1 as yet1 there is but one native pastor4 ,their ,classis is more ,american than ,indian4 ,we must wait until they have a native ,classis1 before the test can be pronounced at all satisfactory4 ,true1 that ,mission has been very successful since they formed what is called a ,classis in connection with the ,synod in ,america4 ,but has it been more successful than the ,mission at ,amoy8 ,compare the amount of labor and the money expended on the two ,missions1 and then look at the results1 and thus decide about the tests4 ,it is in no spirit of vainglory that we call for such a comparison4 ,studiously have we avoided it1 and the responsibility must rest on those who compel us to it4 7#c47 ,no consideration is had for the feelings1 wishes1 or opinions of the native ,churches4 ,some consideration is shown for the feelings of the ,english ,presbyterian ,missionaries4 ,this is as it ought to be4 ,yet it is a matter of comparatively little importance4 ,the inalienable rights of the native churches1 their relation to each other1 their absolute unity--things of the utmost consequence--are not at all regarded1 are entirely ignored6 ,it would have occupied too much space to have quoted the whole of the ,report of the ,committee4 ,the preceding part of it occupies nearly six pages of the ,minutes of ,synod4 ,yet we may not pass that part over in silence1 for1 while with much of its contents we have no dispute1 it contains some grave mistakes of fact1 and1 as we think1 some very grave errors of doctrine4 ,it grieves me to say thus much1 and also to feel compelled to add the following strictures4 ,but1 in order to discuss this subject1 duty required the careful examination of the whole of the ,report1 and1 finding in it such errors1 the clear statement of them4 ,it might be easy1 perhaps1 to account for the fact1 that mistakes1 in a report1 unprinted1 and of such length1 should escape the notice of ,synod1 but an attempt to apologize for that body might give occasion to infer more disrespect than simply to point out the mistakes4 ,after some introductory remarks1 chiefly concerning the difficulty of their task1 the ,committee begin with the assertion of principles4 ,these they make three in number4 ,the sum of the first principle is that a ,church1 by divine arrangement1 has government4 ,the essential idea of their second principle1 so far as we can understand it1 is1 that the ,dutch ,church has a clearly defined government4 ,the ,missionaries at ,amoy1 as well as the ministers in this country1 admit both these principles fully4 ,but they do not affect the question in dispute4 ,not so with the third principle of the ,committee4 ,lest ,i might be supposed to misrepresent1 ,i will quote their own language3 ,no government can1 voluntarily1 relinquish its powers1 and abnegate its authority without thereby inviting disorder1 disquietude1 and1 in the end1 its destruction4 ,is this1 indeed1 as the ,committee assert1 one of the admitted principles of our ,church8 one of the convictions in the mind of our ,church1 hardly separable in idea from its very existence8 one of the old truths maintained through blood and flame8 ,if the doctrine be true1 the ,church in ,holland had no right to relinquish its authority over the ,church in ,america4 ,if this doctrine be a principle of our ,church1 never1 never could your ,missionaries consent to be instrumental in bringing the ,church in ,china1 which now has liberty in ,christ ,jesus1 into such perpetual bondage4 ,once bring the ,chinese churches under the authority of the ,church in ,america1 and it matters not how great may be their growth1 and how many centuries may pass away1 the ,church in ,america can never relinquish her authority over them6 ,but this is not an admitted principle of our ,church4 ,the ,dutch ,church is protestant1 not papal4 ,instead of the principle being one of the old truths maintained through blood and flame by her1 it is an old error of the ,papacy1 for rejecting which she poured out her blood so freely1 and would do the same to-day4 ,yet in the ,report of the ,committee this error of ,romanism1 guilty of the blood of thousands upon thousands of the saints of the ,most ,high1 is made to lie at the basis of the action of the last ,synod6 ,the ,committee next proceed to the statement of certain historic facts4 ,as with the admitted principles1 so with the historic facts4 ,with some of them we have no dispute4 ,but when they come to describe the present condition and relations of the churches at ,amoy1 their language1 to say the least1 is very unfortunate4 ,these six ,churches1 say they1 have grown up together under such an interchange and community of labor on the part of our own ,missionaries1 and on the part of those belonging to the ,english ,presbyterian ,church1 that all are said to have a two-fold ecclesiastical relation--one with ,england--one with ,america1 and still a third1 and economical and domestic relation among themselves1 which is covered and controlled by what is styled ',the ,great ,presbyterial or ,classical ,council of ,amoy4' ,we do not know by whom these native ,churches are said to have a two-fold or three-fold ecclesiastical relation4 ,it is not so said by the ,missionaries4 ,they contend that the native churches are neither ,english1 nor ,american1 but ,chinese churches4 ,they are ecclesiastically related to each other1 and ought to remain so4 ,but the effort is now made to sever this ecclesiastical relation to each other1 and bring half of them into ecclesiastical relationship with the ,church in ,america1 making them the ,protestant ,reformed ,dutch ,church of ,north ,america1 in ,china6 ,at present the native churches have an intimate1 but not an ecclesiastical1 relation to both the ,church in ,england and ,america4 ,from the above mistaken statement the ,committee have drawn out three particulars which they seem to think especially worthy of note4 #ast4 ,that while this ,chinese ,presbyterial or ,classical ,council is itself an autonomy--having the right to ordain ministers1 exercise discipline1 and do whatever else a 'self-regulating ,classis' or ,presbytery can or may do1 still the whole in ,england is claimed to be the ,presbytery of ,amoy1 and to this ,synod it is reported as the ,classis of ,amoy4 ,how dreadful6 ,english ,presbyterians call the body at ,amoy a ,presbytery1 and ,american ,dutchmen call it a ,classis6 ,if this language is also meant to imply that the ,classis at ,amoy is usurping authority1 it is answered in other parts of this paper4 ,the next particular of the ,committee is3 #b;d4 ,the ,missionaries1 while they are members of this ,grand ,presbyterial or ,classical ,council1 exercising full ministerial functions in it1 are1 at the same time1 members either of ,classes in ,america1 or of ,presbyteries in ,great ,britain4 ,the meaning of this second particular is1 that the ,missionaries have a two-fold ecclesiastical relation4 ,is there anything contrary to ,scripture doctrine1 or to ,presbyterian principles1 or to common sense1 that ecclesiastical relations should correspond to fact8--that the ,missionaries should have some sort of an ecclesiastical relation1 both to the ,church at home and to the ,church in ,china8 ,they have a peculiar relationship to both these ,churches4 ,why forget or ignore the fact that they are ,evangelists and not ,pastors8 ,why object to an ecclesiastical relationship exactly corresponding to1 and required by1 their office and position8 ,the two parts of this relationship do not contradict each other4 ,they are altogether correlative4 ,the ,missionaries are still agents of the ,church which sent them out4 ,their ecclesiastical relation to it should be direct1 that they may be controlled by it1 independent of any intermediate body4 ,the ,church at home cannot afford to cut off her ,missionaries from this immediate relationship so long as they remain her agents4 ,this does not conflict with1 but requires some sort of a corresponding relationship to the ,churches planted and growing up through their instrumentality4 ,their relationship to those ,churches must have reference especially to local matters1 for the proper organization1 and control1 and development of the native churches1 not at all to be controlled by them4 ,when they cease to be agents of the ,church at home1 and become the proper pastors of the native churches1 then will be the proper time to put themselves under the control of the native churches1 instead of the ,church at home4 ,we must not confound evangelization with colonization4 ,does any one imagine that ,paul and ,barnabas1 and ,timothy and ,titus1 or any of them 7for they were not all apostles71 had connection with the ,church which sent them out1 only through the churches and ecclesiastical bodies organized by them8 or that they were in any sense under the control of those bodies8 ,the next and last particular of the ,committee is #c;d4 ,that while the ,churches1 three at least1 are organized under and according to the ,constitution of our ,church1 it is1 nevertheless1 claimed that the members of said ,churches are not more members of the ,reformed ,dutch ,church here1 than they are members of the ,presbyterian ,church of ,england4 ,the words of this third particular are almost 7not quite7 accurate4 ,yet they appear to us like special pleading4 ,they would have been strictly correct if they had run as follows3 ,these ,churches are all 7why say1 'three at least'87 organized according to 7not 'under'--see pages #bh-cj7 the ,constitution of our ,church4 ,therefore it is claimed that they form a ,church of our order in ,china1 but that the members thereof are neither members of the ,reformed ,dutch ,church here1 nor members of the ,presbyterian ,church in ,england4 ,such are the facts4 ,it would have been better if the ,committee had so stated them4 ,the effort is now made to divide these churches1 and make three of them a part of the ,dutch ,church in ,america4 ,there is one more paragraph in the report of the ,committee which demands notice4 ,it is3 ,your ,committee can easily understand how reluctantly our ,missionaries may have been1 or may still be1 to disturb1 or alter1 or modify the relations of the ,churches at ,amoy4 ,but they conceive it to be their duty to say that feeling should never be allowed to take the place of conscience1 nor to discharge its functions2 and so long as our ,missionaries claim to be subordinate to the authority of ,general ,synod1 they should allow this body to assume the responsibility of its chosen and deliberate policy4 ,it seems to us the ,committee are not much more fortunate on the subject of casuistry1 than on ,church government and historic facts4 ,the ,missionaries do claim to be subordinate to the authority of ,general ,synod1 but they also claim to be subordinate to the ,supreme authority4 ,now suppose--we shall not be charged with insubordination for the mere supposition--suppose the ,synod1 through some misapprehension1 should direct us to pursue a course1 which1 after the most mature reflection1 we felt to be injurious to the cause of ,christ1 and consequently contrary to ,his will--will the fact of the ,synod assuming the responsibility clear our skirts8 ,who is the ,lord of conscience8 ,general ,synod8 ,it seems to us1 while the ,committee conceive it to be their duty to deliver to the ,missionaries at ,amoy a lecture on the importance of giving heed to conscience1 in the very same sentence they direct us to hold conscience in abeyance4 ,but where did the ,committee learn that their ,missionaries were influenced by feelings and not by conscience1 and that too in reference to the laying of the foundation of the ,church of ,christ in such an empire as that of ,china2 that they felt called upon in this solemn manner to deliver such a lecture8 ,would such a reflection have been cast on any other body of ministers in our ,church8 or is it supposed that men who give themselves to the work of preaching the gospel in heathen lands are less under the influence of conscience than those who remain at home8 ,they conceived it to be their duty6 ,was it8 ,so much for the ,report of the ,committee of ,synod4 ,the decision of ,synod has been given1 as stated above4 ,the important question now is1 what will be the result of this decision on the ,church at ,amoy8 ,this question1 however1 cannot yet be answered with certainty1 for we cannot yet even guess what course the ,missionaries there1 when they learn the decision of ,synod1 will feel it their duty to pursue4 ,there may be more1 but ,i can now only think of three ways open before them4 7#a47 ,to ask the ,board to recall them4 ,they firmly believe that their course of proceeding1 in organizing the ,church at ,amoy1 is not only in accordance with the teachings of the ,holy ,scriptures1 but also with the principles of our ,church4 ,to be the instruments1 then1 of dividing the ,church1 which ,god has gathered by their hands1 may be to sin against their consciences4 ,they may therefore ask the ,board to appoint other agents to carry out the decision of ,synod4 ,this would not be insubordination1 but perfect subordination both to the authority of ,synod and also to that authority which all ,protestant ,christians acknowledge to be supreme4 ,this1 ,i suppose1 would be the most natural course for the brethren to take1 except for one consideration2 that is1 their love for the ,churches gathered by them1 or under their care1 and their responsibility in reference to the spiritual welfare of those disciples of the ,lord4 ,it would be the severest trial they have ever been called on to endure to be recalled from their work4 ,therefore 7#b47 ,they may delay their action1 making one more effort to get their views published1 hoping that the ,church will yet change her decision1 and not require of them to engage in a proceeding which they think will be so injurious to the cause of ,christ2 but1 on the contrary1 will approve of the course heretofore adopted by them as altogether scriptural1 and the true doctrine of our ,church4 ,or 7#c47 ,they may possibly1 after mature reflection1 think the least evil will be to carry out the decision of ,synod1 although that decision be altogether contrary to their own judgment4 ,then they will take three of the six churches1 which now are all of our order1 and organize these three a separate ,denomination and an integral part of the ,church in ,america4 ,this is the course which at home will be generally expected of them4 ,now let us suppose that they will adopt this third course1 and then let us look calmly at its results--at the supposed or real advantages thereof1 and the supposed or real evils thereof4 ,we first look at the ,advantages4 #a4 ,the most important is1 or is supposed to be1 that there will thus be higher courts of jurisdiction to which appeals may be made1 and by which orthodoxy and good order may be the better secured to the ,church at ,amoy4 ,such advantages1 if they can be thus secured1 we would by no means underrate4 ,there sometimes are cases of appeal for which we need the highest court practicable--the collective wisdom of the ,church so far as it can be obtained2 and the preservation of orthodoxy and good order is of the first importance4 ,now let us see whether the plan proposed will secure these advantages4 ,let us suppose that one of the brethren feels himself aggrieved by the decision of the ,classis of ,amoy1 and he appeals to the ,particular ,synod of ,albany1 and thence to the ,general ,synod4 ,he will not be denied the right to such appeal4 ,but1 in order that the appeal may be properly prosecuted and disposed of1 the appellant and the representative of ,classis should be present in these higher courts4 ,can this be secured8 ,is the waste of time1 of a year or more1 nothing8 and where shall the thousands of dollars of necessary expense come from8 ,now suppose this appellant to be a ,chinese brother4 ,he also has rights4 ,but how1 on this plan1 can he possibly obtain them8 ,suppose 7which of itself is an absurdity7 that the money be raised for him1 and he is permitted to stand on the floor of ,synod4 ,he cannot speak1 read1 or write a word of ,english4 ,not a member of ,synod can speak1 read1 or write a word of his language1 except it be the brother prosecuting him4 ,i ask1 is it possible for him thus to obtain justice8 ,but1 waiving all these disadvantages1 the only points on which there is the least probability that an appeal of a ,chinese brother would come up before the higher courts1 are points on which these higher courts would not be qualified to decide4 ,they would doubtless grow out of the peculiar customs and laws of the ,chinese--points on which the ,missionary1 after he has been on the ground a dozen years1 often feels unwilling to decide1 and takes the opinion of the native elders in preference to his own4 ,is it right to impose a yoke like this on that little ,church which ,god is gathering by your instrumentality in that far-off land of ,china8 ,but it is said1 that these cases of appeal 7because of impracticability7 will very rarely or never happen4 ,be it so2 then this supposed advantage will seldom or never occur1 and if it should occur1 it would prove a disadvantage4 ,the highest practical court of appeal for the native churches can be secured only on the plan for which the ,missionaries contend4 ,why must we deprive the native ,christians of the benefit of the collective wisdom of all the churches of like doctrine and order among them8 ,as regards orthodoxy and good order1 it is incumbent on the ,church at home to use her utmost endeavors to secure these4 ,doubtless this was the great design of ,synod1 both in the action of #aheg and in the action of #ahfc4 ,but will the plan of ,synod give us any greater security for these things8 ,how can they be secured8 ,we answer1 under ,god1 only through your ,missionaries4 ,the greater your hold on your ,missionaries1 the better security for the churches under their care4 ,the plan of ,synod would place your ,missionaries ecclesiastically almost beyond your control4 ,they must be dismissed from the various ,classes in this country1 and1 together with the native churches under their care1 form themselves into a ,chinese ,classis4 ,either they will have a controlling influence over the native portion of this ,classis or they will not4 ,if they have1 then your only way to discipline them will be to discipline their ,classis4 ,it would be a new doctrine in our ,church1 to make the ,board of ,foreign ,missions an ecclesiastical medium between the ,synod and one of its ,classes1 or to enforce discipline over the ministry by the money rod4 ,the ,classis1 as such1 must be disciplined by the direct act of ,synod4 ,or1 suppose the ,missionaries do not have such controlling influence over the native members of ,classis1 for the native members will outnumber1 and1 unless the action of ,synod 7as we greatly fear7 seriously retard the work at ,amoy1 will very soon greatly outnumber the ,missionaries4 ,what then8 ,your ,missionaries are under the ecclesiastical control of the native converts4 ,their doctrines and morals are to be decided on by a court composed mainly of recent converts from heathenism4 ,the only way to bring them before the higher courts in this country1 is through this native court1 as we have already seen1 almost an impossibility4 ,is it not plain that the ,church at home will not thus have a moiety of the control over her ,missionaries she now has8 ,is this the way to keep the ,church at ,amoy sound and pure8 ,it seems to be supposed by some that the ,missionaries desire to be separated from the control of the ,church at home4 ,this is altogether a mistake1 and another result of withholding their views from the public4 ,they have no such desire4 ,the contrary is altogether the fact4 ,they do not desire to be placed under the control of the native ,chinese churches4 ,they did not derive their authority from those churches1 they are not sustained by them1 and they are in no sense their agents1 but they derive their authority through1 are sustained by1 and are altogether the agents of the ,church in this country2 therefore the ,church at home has and should retain control over them4 ,they are amenable to the ,church at home1 through their several ,classes4 ,these are the only courts qualified to take cognizance of their doctrines and morals4 ,they desire to remain in this relation4 ,we think they have a right to demand this1 until such time as they become agents of the ,church in ,china1 instead of the ,church in ,america4 ,suppose by some means suspicion should arise at home concerning the orthodoxy or morality of one or more of your ,missionaries4 ,on the plan proposed1 what can the ,church do with them8 ,may the ,board of ,missions1 on mere report or suspicion1 recall them without giving them a proper trial8 ,can the ,board try them8 ,no4 ,it is not an ecclesiastical court4 ,will the ,church be satisfied with the decision of a court1 a majority of whose members have recently been converted from heathenism through the instrumentality of these very ,missionaries8 ,but continue the plan of the ,missionaries and all will be simple4 ,if any of the ,missionaries give occasion for suspicion1 let them be tried by their proper ,classes in this country4 ,this is all that the ,church at home can do ecclesiastically towards keeping the ,church pure in ,china4 ,whether the proposed nominal union be consummated or not1 the only hold you will have on the ,chinese churches will be through your ,missionaries4 ,if they will not receive the instructions1 and listen to the advice of your ,missionaries and of the ,synod through them1 you would not expect them to obey the injunctions of ,synod4 ,your only other resort will be to withhold from them help4 ,can you not do the same now8 ,but in all this discussion1 ,i fear1 we lose sight too much of our dependence on the ,head of the ,church to keep ,his ,church pure4 ,sure ,i am that the ,church in ,china cannot be kept pure by legislation on this1 the opposite side of the globe4 ,but we expect ,christ to reign over1 and the ,holy ,spirit to be given to the churches1 and the proper ecclesiastical bodies formed of them in ,china as well as in this land4 ,why not8 ,such are the promises of ,god4 ,the way to secure these things is by prayer1 and the preaching of the pure gospel1 not by legislation4 ,let the ,church be careful in her selection of ,missionaries4 ,send only such as she has confidence in--men of ,god1 sound in the faith1 apt to teach--and then trust them1 or recall them4 ,don't attempt to control them contrary to their judgment4 ,strange if this1 which is so much insisted on as the policy of our ,church1 be right1 that she cannot get a single man1 of all she sends out to ,china1 to think so4 ,can it be that the ,missionary work is so subversive of right reason1 or of correct judgment1 or of conscientiousness1 that all become perverted by engaging in it8 #b4 ,another supposed advantage is the effect it will have in enlisting the sympathies of the ,church in behalf of the ,mission at ,amoy4 ,it is said1 tell the ,church that we have a flourishing ,classis at ,amoy1 a part of ourselves1 connected with ,general ,synod1 just like all the other ,classes of our ,church1 the effect will be wonderful in enlisting sympathy1 money1 and men in behalf of that ,mission2 otherwise the opposite evil must be apprehended4 ,if these things be so1 they are indeed of grave importance4 ,the ,mission in ,china cannot live without the sympathy of the ,church at home4 ,but are these things so8 ,it seems to us that the supposition takes for granted that our ,church in its ,missionary work is influenced by a desire for self-glory1 or self-gratification2 or1 at least1 that she is not a ,church of liberal views--that she is not at all to be compared1 in this respect1 with the ,english ,presbyterian ,church1 or the ,free ,church of ,scotland4 ,allusion has already been made to the liberality of the ,english ,presbyterian ,church4 ,i may now also remark that a large amount of the funds for carrying on the work at ,amoy is raised in ,scotland from members of the ,free ,church4 ,they never had any idea that the churches gathered in ,china were to be a part of their own ,church4 ,they do not even ask that they be a part of their sister ,church in ,england4 ,they only ask that they shall be sound in the faith and hold to the essentials of ,presbyterianism1 even though they have some characteristics peculiar to the ,dutch and other ,reformed ,churches4 ,these ,presbyterian brethren in ,england and ,scotland are not only ready to support their own ,missionaries in their work of building up the churches under their especial care1 but they stand ready to assist the ,missionaries of our ,church in building up the churches under our especial care4 ,of their frequent offers to assist us1 when they feared we should be in want of funds1 our ,board can bear testimony4 ,we are not yet willing to believe that our people are a people of narrow views in a matter like this4 ,it is contrary to our history in time past4 ,it is contrary to the facts of the present day4 ,it is contrary to all my observation among our churches4 ,our people do not first ask whether it be building ourselves up1 before they sympathize with a benevolent object4 ,we believe the contrary is the exact truth4 ,it requires a liberal policy to call forth liberal views and action4 ,as regards the enlisting of men1 look at the facts4 ,every man who has gone out from among you1 to engage in this ,missionary work1 begs of you not to adopt a narrow policy4 ,so in regard to obtaining of funds4 ,usually1 the men who are most liberal in giving are most liberal in feeling4 ,this must be so in the very nature of things4 ,the way to alienate the sympathies of the ,church from the ,mission at ,amoy is to divide the ,church there by a sectarian policy2 and the way to enlist her sympathies is to continue the former plan1 and let the work go forward with the ,divine blessing as in days past4 ,the people will be more encouraged1 and praise ,god more heartily1 when you tell them of six organized churches like our own1 and many others growing up all around1 than they will if you tell them of only three churches1 and only a few out-stations1 under our care4 ,they will not object to hear that the ,english ,presbyterian brethren are laboring with us1 and organizing churches so nearly like our own4 ,however powerful the motive addressed to the desire to build up our own ,church1 there are motives infinitely more powerful4 ,such are the motives to be depended on in endeavoring to elevate the standard of liberality among our people4 ,let brethren in the ,ministry try the experiment1 and tell their people of the wonders of ,god's grace3--that he has led his servants from our own ,church in this land1 and from the ,presbyterian ,church in ,great ,britain1 in their work of evangelizing the heathen1 and laying the foundation of the ,church of ,christ1 to lay aside all national animosities1 and rise above all denominational prejudices and jealousies--that he has given to the ,presbyterian ,church in ,england1 and the sister ,church in ,scotland1 a spirit of catholicity and liberality as exhibited in the previous part of this paper--and that1 as a consequence1 he is causing his ,church to grow up in the region of ,amoy in beautiful proportions1 all the congregations under their care and ours also manifesting the same spirit of catholicity and liberality1 submitting to each other according to the ,divine command1 working together with the utmost harmony1 and1 as a consequence1 with wonderful effectiveness4 ,can you account for such things except by the energy of the ,spirit of ,god8 ,surely it is not the spirit of the world1 neither is it the spirit of the devil4 ,try the experiment1 then1 and see whether the wonders of ,god's grace will alienate the hearts of his people4 ,your ,missionaries have no doubt--we can hardly understand how any who examine the subject can doubt--we are sure that no one can personally behold the work and yet doubt1 that the wonderful blessing of ,god1 which has accompanied the work at ,amoy1 has been both the cause and the result of this harmonious labor on the part of your ,missionaries1 and those from the sister ,churches in ,england and ,scotland4 ,therefore1 we feel assured that the simple recital of the grace of ,god thus manifested1 must influence the hearts of his people most powerfully1 and therefore it is that we beseech the ,church not to interfere with1 and hinder the work of ,god4 ,may we not refer1 without being charged with disrespect1 to the ,synod of ,jerusalem as a proper example for our ,general ,synod8 ,peter says1 ,why tempt ye ,god to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples1 which neither we nor our fathers were able to bear8 ,and then the decree1 which the ,synod sent to the ,churches1 runs thus3 ,it seemed good to the ,holy ,ghost and to us1 to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things4 ,the ecclesiastical power which the ,lord hath given to his ,church is to edification1 and not to destruction4 ,if the ,missionaries be allowed to proceed in building up a ,church1 like our own1 simply with reference to the evangelization of ,china1 doubtless brethren in the ministry1 and other influential men1 could take occasion therefrom to prejudice the ,churches against our work4 ,they could do this1 if they were so disposed1 without any such occasion4 ,but will they do it8 ,we cannot believe that they will4 ,they love the cause of ,christ too well1 and desire to see the world converted to ,god too ardently1 to permit them to throw any obstacles in the way of our work1 even though that work be not carried forward in the manner which they consider altogether the best4 ,if we are right1 these brethren will soon see that we are right1 and however powerful the motive to be addressed to the desire of extending our own ,church1 they will find infinitely more powerful motives to be addressed to a more noble desire of the ,christian heart4 ,if our people have not yet learned1 they should be taught to engage in the work of evangelizing the world1 not for the sake of our ,church in ,america1 but for the sake of ,christ and ,his ,church1 and when the ,church thus built up is like our own1 they should be fully satisfied4 ,we believe they will be satisfied with this4 #c4 ,the only other supposed advantage ,i can now think of1 is the advantage of carrying out the policy of our ,church4 ,this1 in itself considered1 might be regarded worthy of but little attention4 ,cannot--ought not--the ,church change her policy if wrong1 or if a better can be adopted8 ,surely her laws are not like those of the ,medes and ,persians4 ,but the argument has been used with so much earnestness and perseverance1 both in the ,reports of the ,committees and in the discussions in ,synod1 that it demands some investigation4 ,instead of the course pursued by the ,missionaries being1 as it is contended1 contrary to1 it is the true policy of our ,church--the policy in existence long before the decision of #aheg4 ,if the course now required of them be the present policy of our ,church1 it is a mistaken policy1 contrary to the very genius of our institutions1 and ought to be corrected4 ,it is so contrary to our time-honored ,constitution that either it or the ,constitution must be sacrificed4 ,in order to save the policy it was found necessary during the past year to amend the ,constitution by a clause so sweeping1 that if the circumstances of a ,missionary ,classis require it1 all the ordinary requirements of the ,constitution may be dispensed with by the ,general ,synod4 ,can it be that a policy which requires such constitutional changes can be the old and proper policy of our ,church8 ,but if the policy be continued we are not yet done with changes4 ,the very name of our ,church must be changed4 ,it now is ,the ,reformed ,protestant ,dutch ,church in ,north ,america4 ,we must expunge the words in ,north ,america1 or must add ,india1 ,china1 and ,japan1 and every other country where the ,church may undertake ,missionary work4 ,we know it has been said of this policy1 it is our settled1 irreversible policy4 ,is every thing then to be regarded as unsettled and changeable but this policy of the ,church8 ,we answer1 ,no4 ,the ,church may change her name1 if she please1 as she has changed her ,constitution4 ,or she may change her policy4 ,but there are certain fundamental principles of ,church government which she may not change4 ,hence1 even yet1 the principles for which the ,missionaries contend must remain the true policy of our ,church1 for they lie at the very foundation of ,presbyterial order4 ,a full discussion of this subject will come up most naturally when we discuss the evils of the course now required of us4 ,i will now allude to only one fact4 ,the ,board of ,foreign ,missions was formed on this principle4 ,if the ,classes at ,arcot and ,amoy are to be considered integral parts of the ,church in this country1 related to ,general ,synod like the ,classes in this country1 then the ,missionaries at those stations properly should come under the ,board of ,domestic ,missions4 ,suppose1 according to the new plan1 the ,missionaries form themselves into the kind of ,classis now required of them2 what will be the relation of the ,classis of ,amoy to the ,board of ,foreign ,missions8 ,is the ,classis1 in evangelizing the heathen around1 to operate through the ,board1 or the ,board through the ,classis8 ,the ,classis at ,amoy decide on a certain course of ecclesiastical procedure1 or evangelistic labor1 and the ,board decides on another course2 how is such a matter to be settled8 ,will it be said1 there is no danger of such difficulty8 ,the ,classis and ,board will both be composed of men with infirmities4 ,ask the ,board whether there have not already been incipient difficulties1 in the supposed clashing of the powers of the ,board and the powers of the ,classis of ,arcot4 ,but the ,classis of ,arcot as yet is little more than an ,american ,missionary ,classis4 ,what will be the difficulties when it becomes an ,indian ,classis8 ,but we are told1 keep the ,mission and ,classis distinct4 ,is the ,mission1 then1 to attend to all the evangelistic work1 and the ,classis to do nothing8 ,or are there to be two distinct evangelistic policies carried on at ,amoy1 the one by the ,mission1 and the other by the ,classis8 ,or is the ,classis first to come over to the ,synod1 and so get to the ,board in order to carry on the work around8 ,instead of this new plan being the settled policy of our ,church1 we believe it to be a solecism4 ,when a ,church is established among the heathen after our order1 then is the true policy of our ,church carried out4 ,let the present relations of the ,missionaries to the ,board and to their several ,classes remain1 and there will be no occasion for the clashing of the powers of the ,board with those of any ecclesiastical body4 ,so much for the advantages4 ,they are really disadvantages1 leading to serious evils1 which of themselves should be sufficient to deter the ,church from inaugurating the policy proposed1 or1 if it be already inaugurated1 to lead her to retrace her steps1 and adopt a better and a consistent policy4 ,now let us consider the real or supposed ,evils 7in addition to the above7 of carrying out the decision of ,synod4 #a4 ,it will not be for the credit of our ,church4 ,she now has a name1 with other ,churches1 for putting forth efforts to evangelize the world4 ,shall she mar this good name and acquire one for sectarianism1 by putting forth efforts to extend herself1 not her doctrines and order2--they are not sectarian1 and her ,missionaries esteem them as highly as do their brethren at home--but herself1 even at the cost of dividing churches which the grace of ,god has made one8 ,the decision of the last ,synod may not be the result of sectarianism among the people of our ,church4 ,we do not think it is4 ,but it will be difficult to convince our ,presbyterian brethren and others1 that it is not so4 ,by way of illustration ,i will suppose a case4 ,a4 is engaged in a very excellent work4 ,b4 comes to him1 and the following dialogue ensues3 ,b4 ,friend ,a41 ,i am glad to see you engaged in so excellent a work4 ,i also have concluded to engage in it4 ,i should be glad to work with you4 ,you know the proverbs1 ',union is strength1' and ',two are better than one4' ,a4 ,yes1 yes1 friend ,b1 ,i know these proverbs and believe them as thoroughly as you do4 ,but ,i have a few peculiarities about my way of working4 ,they are not many1 and they are not essential1 but ,i think they are useful1 and wish to work according to them4 ,therefore1 ,i prefer working alone4 ,b4 ,yes1 friend ,a41 we all have our peculiarities1 and1 if they be not carried too far1 they may all be made useful4 ,i have been making inquiries about yours1 and ,i am glad to find they are not nearly so many1 or so different from mine1 as you seem to suppose1 and as ,i once supposed4 ,the fact is1 ,i rather like some of them1 and1 though ,i may not esteem them all so highly as you do1 still ,i am willing to conform to them2 for ,i am fully persuaded that1 in work of this kind1 two working together can do vastly more than two working separately1 and the work will be much better done4 ,besides this1 the social intercourse will be delightful4 ,a4 ,i appreciate1 friend ,b41 your politeness1 and am well aware that all you say about the greater efficiency and excellence of united work1 and the delights of social intercourse is perfectly true4 ,but--but--well1 ,i prefer to work alone4 #b4 ,it will be destroying a real unity for the sake of creating one1 which1 at the best1 can be only nominal1 and hence will really be a violation of ,presbyterial order4 ,it seems strange to us that it should be constantly asserted that we are striving to create a formal union between two bodies which are essentially distinct4 ,there is nothing of the kind4 ,there are six organized churches at ,amoy4 ,they are all ,dutch 7i4e4 ,reformed71 and they are all ,presbyterian1 for the ,dutch ,churches are all ,presbyterian4 ,but they are ,chinese1 not ,american1 nor ,english1 nor ,scotch4 ,if these churches are not one1 then it is impossible for two or more individual churches to be one4 ,if schism in a ,church be a sin1 then the separation of this ,church will be a sin1 for it will be an actual schism4 ,you can make nothing more nor less of it4 ,if you say that schism is only an evil1 then the separation of this ,church will1 at least1 be an evil4 ,perhaps it will be thought that schism is too hard a term whereby to designate the separation of the ,church at ,amoy4 ,never mind the word1 then1 but let us look at the facts4 ,the proper ,classis of ,amoy1 composed of all the churches of like order1 and of the ,missionaries1 has proceeded1 according to the order of our ,church1 to ordain and install native pastors1 and to perform a few other necessary ecclesiastical acts4 ,these pastors are now called on to separate from1 and break up that body1 through which they received their office6 ,the opinions and wishes of these native pastors1 as well of the native ,classis1 and the native churches1 are all ignored6 ,are such things right8 ,are these the doctrines or policy of the ,dutch ,church8 ,we are told that we need say nothing to the native churches on the subject4 ,is this right8 ,is the ,dutch ,church a hierarchy8 ,does the ,general ,synod claim authority to order the division in such a manner of a ,classis of the ,church of ,christ without the consent of that ,classis8 ,what ,god hath joined together let not man put asunder4 ,in consequence of fallen humanity1 there are evils which we call necessary evils4 ,such is the case of different ,denominations of ,christians in the same region of territory4 ,they differ in sentiment on important 7or supposed to be important7 subjects1 and because of this difference in sentiment1 they can work together in greater harmony1 and with greater efficiency1 by being formed into distinct organizations4 ,such1 however1 is not the case of the six churches at ,amoy1 and others growing up under their care and the care of your own and the ,english ,presbyterian ,missionaries4 ,even when ,churches agree in doctrine and order1 it is sometimes better1 and sometimes necessary1 in consequence of geographical separation or national distinctions1 to form distinct organizations4 ,it is better1 or necessary1 that the ,churches in ,holland1 and ,america1 and ,south ,africa1 be ecclesiastically distinct4 ,we do not call this an evil1 for all the advantages of ecclesiastical courts and control are better thus secured4 ,but suppose a case4 ,there are1 say1 thirty ,dutch churches in the city of ,new ,york4 ,now1 suppose there were no others of the same order throughout this whole land3 instead of allowing these churches to remain one organic whole--forming ,classes and ,synods1 as the growth and convenience may allow and direct--it is proposed to take one-half of these churches1 form them into a distinct organization1 thus depriving them of ecclesiastical relations to the other half1 and attach them to an ecclesiastical body in ,china--a nation of different customs and different language4 ,how should we designate such an act8 ,the first part would be schism1 and the last part would be folly4 ,the only difference between such a procedure and that required of us is1 that the churches at ,amoy have been gathered partly by our instrumentality1 and are dependent partly on us for instruction4 ,if our ,presbyterial order be scriptural1 all these churches at ,amoy1 growing out of each other1 are bound to associate together1 ecclesiastically4 ,it is their duty to submit to each other4 ,they would also be bound to submit to the ,church of the same order in ,england and ,america1 and every other country throughout the world1 if it were possible and convenient4 ,but such relation is not convenient1 or possible4 ,therefore1 we must choose that which is possible and most convenient4 ,it is possible1 and it is convenient1 that they associate together4 ,it is not possible that they all be subject to the ,church in ,england1 and1 at the same time1 to the ,church in ,america4 ,it is not convenient that they all be subject to either of these ,churches4 ,we do not think it is convenient that one-half of them be subject to either of these ,churches4 ,besides the sin1 or evil1 of schism1 they never can be properly represented in the higher ecclesiastical bodies of either of these ,churches4 ,they never can have an ,elder present 7,i speak now of their connection with the ,church in ,america1 for this is the subject before us74 ,they never can have a full representation of ministers4 ,only very seldom can they have even one minister present4 ,he usually will only be one who is ill1 and consequently not a proper representative4 ,the native element1 i4e41 the chief element of the ,church can never be represented at all4 ,the representation1 at the best1 will only be a representation of your ,missionaries1 not at all of the ,chinese ,church4 ,therefore1 we assert that such a union would not be real1 not even apparent1 only nominal4 ,in striving after it1 we are pursuing a chimera1 destroying a substance for the sake of a shadow4 ,but it is offered as an objection to our views1 that the ,presbyterian ,church 7,o4,s47 has ,presbyteries and ,synods in ,india and ,china4 ,yes1 they have three ,presbyteries and a ,synod in ,india1 and have had for twenty years4 ,but even yet there is not so much of a native element in their whole ,synod as there is already in the little ,church in the region of ,amoy4 ,as an ecclesiastical body1 it is not ,indian in its characteristics--it is ,american4 ,so with all their ,presbyteries in ,siam and ,china1 with the exception1 perhaps1 of the ,presbytery at ,ningpo4 ,they are ,american ,presbyteries1 not native in their character4#b ,footnote #b3 ,the following statistics are from the ,minutes of ,general ,assembly1 #ahfc4 ,synod of ,northern ,india--,was organized in #ahda4 ,is composed of three ,presbyteries4 ,now has #ai ministers 7only one of these is a native pastor72 #i churches2 #bdf communicants4 7,how many of these are natives not reported47 ,presbytery of ,canton--,has #d ministers2 no native pastor2 #a church2 #ab communicants4 7,how many of these are natives not reported47 ,presbytery of ,ningpo--,has #h ministers2 no native pastor2 #b churches2 #aaa native members4 ,presbytery of ,siam--,has #f ministers2 no native pastor2 #a church2 #h communicants4 7,how many of these are native members not reported47 ,presbytery of ,west ,africa--,has #i ministers2 no native pastor2 #f churches2 #aia communicants 7probably all natives47 ,are these ecclesiastical bodies respectively ,indian1 ,chinese1 and ,african in their character8 or are they all essentially ,american8 ,yet these are the bodies to which the ,committee of ,general ,synod of #aheg referred when they said1 ,as to the difficulties suggested by the ,missionaries at ,amoy respecting the delays of carrying out a system of appellate jurisdiction covering ,america and ,china1 it is enough to say1 that the ,presbyterian ,church 7,o4,s47 finds no insuperable difficulties in carrying into operation her system1 which comprehends ,presbyteries and ,synods in ,india as well as here4 ,why should there be many insuperable difficulties so long as these bodies remain ,american ,missionary bodies1 instead of being native ecclesiastical bodies8 ,practically they do not need representation in the ,church at home more than our ,missions need representatives in the ,board of ,missions4 ,in the aggregate of all the above-mentioned ecclesiastical missionary bodies1 there is but one native pastor1 and this1 as might be expected1 so far as we are aware1 furnished the only case in which difficulty has occurred4 ,doubtless in the instance referred to1 the native pastor was in error1 and1 as he found some insuperable difficulty in getting his case before the ,general ,assembly1 a similar effort is not likely soon to be made4 ,so is the ,classis of ,arcot appealed to4 ,such appeals put us in a somewhat painful position4 ,as with the ,presbyterian bodies just mentioned1 so with the ,classis of ,arcot4 ,we have no rivalry with the brethren there1 and do not wish to say a word that looks like stricture on their policy4 ,we do not utter a word of this kind1 except in self-defense4 ,we rejoice in all their successes4 ,but the time will come1 if the blessing of ,god continues to follow their labors1 when they will be compelled to adopt our principles4 ,the ,missionaries at ,arcot are not properly pastors of the native churches4 ,they exercise the pastoral office only temporarily1 until native pastors are raised up4 ,their relation to the ,synods in this country is not like that of the other ,classes of our ,church4 ,they never have had and never will have a proper representation in these higher courts4 ,they have never had a native elder present4 ,they never have even a partial representation of ministers1 except under the afflictive dispensations of ,providence4 ,for several years past they would have been without any representation at all1 but for the fact of one of their number being in this country whose ill health forbids his return to that field of labor4 ,it is by being unfitted to be a member of the ,classis that he becomes able to be a representative of the ,classis in the ,synod6 ,at the present time1 because of the still ,american character of their body1 they may feel no serious inconvenience4 ,if our position had been like theirs1 occupying the ground at ,amoy alone1 possibly we should have done as they have4 ,we should have understood well enough that the connection of the native ,church with the ,church at home could only be nominal4 ,but if our ,church desired this1 so long as it did not injure the native ,church1 we probably should have made no objections4 ,but we are told that it is not desired that this connection with the ,church in ,america should be perpetual4 ,it will last only until the ,church at ,amoy has sufficient development to stand alone4 ,then1 of course1 our ,church will consent to the separation4 7,a very different doctrine1 by the way1 from the assertion of the committee of ,synod that the ,church can not voluntarily relinquish its powers47 ,after that1 the churches at ,amoy which have been under our care1 and those which have been under the care of the ,english ,presbyterians1 may again unite in one ,denomination1 if they see fit4 ,this sounds pretty well4 ,but look at it4 ,first separate the churches long enough to engender rivalries and allow prejudices to grow up1 and then attempt to unite them1 and what will be the result8 ,unless they have a more liberal spirit than is usual in the churches in this land1 instead of making one denomination out of two1 we shall have three4 ,but who shall be the judge when the proper time has arrived to liberate the ,church in ,china1 if the opinions of those on the ground1 and of the native churches1 are all to be ignored8 #c4 ,it will injure the efficiency of the ,church at ,amoy4 ,besides the objection--which the heathen will thus1 as readily as the irreligious in this country1 be able to urge against ,christianity--furnished by the increase of ,denominations1 it will deprive the churches of the benefit of the united wisdom and strength of the whole of them for self-cultivation and for ,christian enterprise1 and will introduce a spirit of jealous rivalry among them4 ,we know it is said that there need be no such result1 and that the native churches may remain just as united in spirit after the organization of two ,denominations as before4 ,such a sentiment takes for granted1 either that ecclesiastical organization has in fact no efficiency 7such is not the doctrine of our ,church71 or that the ,chinese churches have arrived at a far higher state of sanctification than the churches have attained to in this land4 ,do not different ,denominations exhibit jealous rivalry in this land8 ,why1 your ,missionaries are already frequently charged with being too liberal towards their ,english ,presbyterian brethren in giving to them members and churches which1 it is said1 properly belong to us4 ,is ,chinese human nature different from ,american8 ,in consequence of such division1 the native ,churches will not be so able to support the ,gospel among themselves4 ,look at the condition of our western towns in this respect4 ,why strive to entail like evils on our ,missionary churches8 ,their strength will be weakened for evangelistic effort4 ,their ,missionary efforts is one of the most striking and praiseworthy characteristics of the ,amoy churches4 ,how will they be shorn of their strength by division and necessary rivalry6 ,besides this1 if the connection with the ,church at home be anything more than nominal1 our churches should1 in part at least1 work through the ,church at home4 ,no8 ,then why form the connection8 #d4 ,instead of the ,dutch ,church being the ,presbyterian ,church at ,amoy1 it will only be a small ,church1 bearing about the same proportion to the other ,christian ,churches there1 that it does to the other ,churches in this land4 ,why is not the ,dutch ,church the principal ,presbyterian body in this land8 ,unless we are mistaken in regard to its excellency of order1 it has all the adaptedness1 and it was here first4 ,do you wish a similar result in ,china8 99 99 99 99 99 ,that it may be seen whether the ,missionaries of ,amoy have asked of our ,church to surrender the ,constitution1 the policy1 the interests of our ,church1 nay1 even their own welfare1 and that of the ,mission they are so tenderly attached to--whether what they ask for is flatly in the face of our ,constitution and order--whether the ,synod has no right to form1 or to authorize any such self-regulating1 ecclesiastical body1 or to consent that any ,ministers of our ,church should hold seats in such a body--whether1 if we do it1 we transcend the most liberal construction which has ever been known to be given to the powers of the ,general ,synod--whether1 by granting the request of the ,missionaries1 we violate our own order1 our fundamental principles1 the polity to which we are bound by our profession1 by our subscription1 by every tie which can bind religious and honorable1 men--,i will append the resolution which was offered by me in the ,general ,synod as a substitute for those offered by the ,committee4 ,if it called for declamation like the above1 well4 ,these are the words3 ,resolved1 ,that the ,synod learn1 with gratitude to ,god1 of the great progress of the work of the ,lord at ,amoy1 and in the region around1 so that already we hear of six organized churches with their ,consistories1 and others growing up1 not yet organized2 two native ,pastors1 who were to have been ordained on the #bith of ,march last1 and the whole under the care of a ,classis composed of the ,missionaries of our ,church and the ,english ,presbyterian ,church1 and representative ,elders of the several churches4 ,it calls for our hearty gratitude to the ,great ,head of the ,church1 that the ,missionaries of different ,churches1 and different countries1 have been enabled1 through ,divine grace1 to work together in such harmony4 ,it is also gratifying to us that these ,churches and this ,classis have been organized according to the polity of our ,church4 ,inasmuch as the ,synod of the ,english ,presbyterian ,church has approved of the course of their ,missionaries in uniting with ours in the organization of the ,church at ,amoy1 after our order1 therefore1 this ,synod would direct its ,board of ,foreign ,missions to allow their ,missionaries to continue their present relations with the ,missionaries of the ,english ,presbyterian ,church1 and the churches under their several care1 so long as the present harmony shall continue1 and no departure shall be made from the doctrines and essential polity of our ,church1 or until this ,synod shall otherwise direct4 ,some1 after reading the foregoing discussion1 will be ready to say to us3 ,your views are in the main correct4 ,it would have been better if ,synod had decided otherwise1 but the decision has been made1 and we must put up with it4 ,we answer1 ,not so4 ,we must obey ,synod1 but may not the ,church change or improve her decisions8 ,here is one of the good things we hope to see come out of this mistake of the ,church4 ,jesus rules1 and he is ordering all things for the welfare of his ,church and the advancement of his cause4 ,sometimes1 the better to accomplish this end1 he permits the ,church to make mistakes4 ,when we failed in former days to get our views made public1 it gave us no anxiety1 for we believed the doctrine that ,jesus reigns4 ,so we now feel1 nothwithstanding this mistake4 ,the ,master will overrule it for good4 ,we do not certainly know how1 but we can imagine one way4 ,by means of this mistake the matter may be brought before our ,church1 and before other ,churches1 more clearly than it would otherwise have been for many years to come1 and in consequence of this we expect1 in due time1 that our ,church1 instead of coming up merely to the standard of liberality for which we have been contending1 will rise far above anything we have asked for or even imagined1 and other ,churches will also raise their standard higher4 ,hereafter we expect to contend for still higher principles4 ,this is the doctrine3 ,let all the branches of the great ,presbyterian family in the same region in any heathen country1 which are sound in the faith1 organize themselves1 if convenient1 into one organic whole1 allowing liberty to the different parts in things non-essential4 ,let those who adopt ,dutch customs1 as at ,amoy1 continue1 if they see fit1 their peculiarities1 and those who adopt other ,presbyterian customs1 as at ,ningpo and other places1 continue their peculiarities1 and yet all unite as one ,church4 ,this subject does not simply relate to the interests of the ,church at ,amoy4 ,it relates to the interests of all the ,missionary work of all the ,churches of the ,presbyterian order in all parts of the world4 ,oh that our ,church might take the lead in this catholicity of spirit--instead of falling back in the opposite direction--that no one may take her crown6 ,but if she do not1 then we trust that some other of the sacramental hosts will take the lead and receive too the honor1 for it is for the glory of the great ,captain of our salvation1 and for the interests of ,his kingdom4 ,we need the united strength of all these branches of ,zion for the great work1 which the ,master has set before us1 in calling on us to evangelize the world4 ,in expecting to obtain this union1 will it be said1 that we are looking for a chimera8 ,it ought to be so1 ought it not8 ,then it is no chimera4 ,it may take time for the churches to come up to this standard1 but within a few years past we have seen tendencies to union among different branches of the ,presbyterian family in ,australia1 in ,canada1 in our own country1 and in ,england and ,scotland4 ,in many places these tendencies are stronger now than they have ever before been since the days of the ,reformation4 ,true1 human nature is still compassed with infirmities even in the ,church of ,christ4 ,but the day of the world's regeneration is approaching1 and as it approaches nearer to us1 doubtless the different branches of the ,presbyterian family will approach still nearer to each other4 ,god hasten the time1 and keep us also from doing anything to retard1 but everything to help it forward1 and to his name be the praise forever4 ,amen4 ,appendix ,a4 ,further to illustrate the unity of the ,churches under the care of the two ,missions1 ,i will transcribe from the ,reports of the ,amoy ,mission1 for the years #ahfa and #ahfb4 ,from the ,report for #ahfa4 ,dated ,feb4 #bd4 #ahfb4 ,our work is so interwoven with that of the ,missionaries of the ,english ,presbyterian ,church1 that we cannot give a full report of the state of our ,churches and out-stations without including in it a partial report of some of their stations4 ,we have1 therefore1 thought it best1 both on this account1 and because the ,churches gathered by us and by them are really one1 to give statistics of both ,missions with brief remarks4 ,these1 besides simplifying the matter1 will enable the ,church at home to become better acquainted with the real progress of the cause of ,christ in this region4 ,missionaries and ,assistant ,missionaries of the ,reformed ,dutch ,church at ,amoy1 at the close if the year #ahfa4 ,here follow their names1 and remarks concerning them4 ,missionaries and ,assistant ,missionaries of the ,english ,presbyterian ,church at the close of the year #ahfa4 ,here follow their names1 and remarks concerning them4 ,tabular ,view of the ,churches and ,mission ,stations under the care of the ,reformed ,dutch ,church1 and ,english ,presbyterian ,church1 in ,amoy and vicinity4 ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------- ,native ,no4 of ,rec'd ,churches and helpers ,church during ,mission sustained ,members1 the ,stations4 by ,mission4,elders4,deacons4,jan4 #a1 #ahfa4year4 ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------- ,first ,church at ,amoy #c #d #d #ajb #bd ,second #b #d #d #gh #ac ,church at ,chioh-be #b #d #d #dg #e ,peh-chui-ia #c #b 44 #be #c ,ma-peng #b #b #c #cc #f ,station at ,an-hai #c 44 44 #g #bc ,khang-khau #a ,the ,church members at this ,station are reckoned to the ,church at ,ma-peng4 ,kang-thau #a ,the ,church members at this ,station are reckoned to the ,first ,church at ,amoy4 ,e-mng-kang #a ,the ,church members at this ,station are reckoned to the ,first ,church at ,amoy4 ,chiang-chiu #b ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------- ,no4 of ,churches and ,church ,under ,mission ,members1 suspension ,stations4 ,dead4,excommunicated4,dec4 #ca1 #ahfa4;,dec41 #ahfa4 ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------- ,first ,church at ,amoy #b #b #abb #d ,second #a #a #hi #a ,church at ,chioh-be #a 44 #ea #c ,peh-chui-ia #a 44 #bg #a ,ma-peng #a #a #cg #c ,station at ,an-hai #a 44 #bi 444 ,khang-khau,the ,church members at this ,station are reckoned to the ,church at ,ma-peng4 ,kang-thau ,the ,church members at this ,station are reckoned to the ,first ,church at ,amoy4 ,e-mng-kang,the ,church members at this ,station are reckoned to the ,first ,church at ,amoy4 ,chiang-chiu ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------- ,infants ,colporteurs ,churches and baptized sustained ,mission during by ,native ,benevolent ,stations4 the year4,church4 ,contributions ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------- ,first ,church at ,amoy #ac #a ,second #aa #a #dga4cc ,church at ,chioh-be #e #a #bjj4bi ,peh-chui-ia #c 444 444444 ,ma-peng #c 444 444444 ,station at ,an-hai #d 444 444444 ,khang-khau,the ,church members at this ,station are reckoned to the ,church at ,ma-peng4 ,kang-thau ,the ,church members at this ,station are reckoned to the ,first ,church at ,amoy4 ,e-mng-kang,the ,church members at this ,station are reckoned to the ,first ,church at ,amoy4 ,chiang-chiu ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------- ,then come remarks about native helpers1 not included in the above2 ,schools sustained by each of the ,missions1 and by the native ,churches2 ,theological ,class2 ,students sustained by each ,mission4 ,remarks on the above ,tabular ,view4 ,the two ,churches at ,amoy1 and the one at ,chioh-be are under the care of the ,missionaries of the ,reformed ,dutch ,church4 99 99 99 99 99 99 ,the ,churches at ,peh-chui-ia and ,ma-peng1 are under the care of the ,missionaries of the ,english ,presbyterian ,church4 99 99 99 99 99 99 ,the ,congregation at ,an-hai is under the care of the ,english ,presbyterian ,missionaries4 ,it has not yet been organized into a ,church4 ,it is so far removed from ,amoy that it cannot conveniently be placed under the supervision of either of the ,consistories4 99 99 99 99 99 99 ,khang-khau is a station under the care of the ,english ,presbyterian ,mission4 99 99 99 99 99 99 ,kang-thau is under the care of the ,reformed ,dutch ,mission4 ,e-mng-kang is a suburb of ,amoy4 ,the ,congregation worshiping there belongs1 mostly1 to the ,first ,church at ,amoy4 ,the ,station is under the care of the ,english ,presbyterian ,mission4 99 99 99 99 99 99 ,chiang-chiu is a large city1 some twelve miles or more beyond ,chioh-be1 and about thirty-five miles from ,amoy4 ,in times past1 several efforts have been made to establish a ,station at ,chiang-chiu1 but always without success1 until during the past year4 ,at the close of the year there had not yet been any baptisms at that ,station4 ,since the beginning of this year1 there have been several4 ,the ,church members are reckoned to the ,church at ,chioh-be1 and are under the oversight of the ,chioh-be ,consistory4 ,both ,missions work as one at ,chiang-chiu4 ,each ,mission is to furnish half the expense4 ,to simplify the work1 it was thought best that one ,mission be responsible for the control of the ,station1 and direct the work4 ,at present this is the ,mission of the ,reformed ,dutch ,church4 ,if the work be prospered1 it is proposed to form two ,stations1 one under the care of each ,mission4 ,the remaining part of the ,report1 having no bearing on the subject before us1 need not be quoted4 ,from the ,report for #ahfb4 ,it will be sufficient merely to transcribe the ,tabular ,view1 and add one or two explanatory remarks4 ,churches and ,mission ,stations under the care of the ,reformed ,dutch and ,english ,presbyterian ,missions at ,amoy1 ,december #ca1 #ahfb4 ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------- ,no4 of ,died ,members1 during,excommunicated ,dec4 #ca1 the during ,elders4,deacons4#ahfa4 year4 the year4 ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------- ,first ,church at ,amoy #d #d #abb #f #b ,second #d #d #hi 444 444 ,church at ,chioh-be #d #d #ea #a 444 ,peh-chui-ia #b #b #bg 444 444 ,ma-peng #a #c #cg #b 444 ,station at ,an-hai 44 44 #bi #b 444 ,khang-thau,the members at this ,station are reckoned to the ,first ,church1 ,amoy4 ,kang-khau ,the members at this ,station are reckoned to the ,church at ,ma-peng4 ,e-mng-kang,the members at this ,station are reckoned to the ,first ,church1 ,amoy4 ,chiang-chiu,the members at this ,station are reckoned to the ,church at ,chioh-be4 ,go-chhng ,te-soa ,khi-be ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------- ,no4 of ,under ,infant ,helpers ,members1 suspension baptisms supported by ,dec4 #ca1 ,dec4 #ca1 during ,native #ahfb4 #ahfb4 the year4 ,church4 ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------- ,first ,church at ,amoy #aci #d #ag #a ,second #ajj #c #b #a ,church at ,chioh-be #gj #b #i #a ,peh-chui-ia #cj 444 444 444 ,ma-peng #ch 444 444 444 ,station at ,an-hai #cj 444 444 444 ,khang-thau,the members at this ,station are reckoned to the ,first ,church1 ,amoy4 ,kang-khau ,the members at this ,station are reckoned to the ,church at ,ma-peng4 ,e-mng-kang,the members at this ,station are reckoned to the ,first ,church1 ,amoy4 ,chiang-chiu,the members at this ,station are reckoned to the ,church at ,chioh-be4 ,go-chhng ,te-soa ,khi-be ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------- ,of the three new ,stations1 ,go-chhng and ,te-soa1 are under the care of the ,reformed ,dutch ,mission1 ,khi-be under the care of the ,english ,presbyterian ,mission4 ,the other ,churches and ,stations as in previous ,report4 ,the ,board of ,foreign ,missions1 being simply the organ of ,synod1 felt bound in their ,report to eliminate1 as far as possible1 all the ,presbyterian elements from the above ,reports of the ,mission4 ,by so doing1 we think that they1 undesignedly of course1 keep our ,church in ignorance1 not only of the absolute unity of the ,churches in the region of ,amoy1 but also of the real progress of the cause of ,christ and of the ,church of our order there4 ,among the members set down to our churches are those who belong to stations under the care of the ,english ,presbyterian ,mission1 as is shown by the ,tabular ,views4 ,the ,church at home1 not aware of this fact1 gives to their ,mission credit which does not belong to them2 and then1 when1 in the progress of the work1 new churches are organized at these stations1 and these members are set off to them1 because they belong there1 the ,dutch ,mission is charged with deficiency of denominational feeling1 in giving to the ,english ,presbyterians that which1 by all rules of ,christian courtesy and harmonious ,missionary action1 belongs to the ,dutch ,church4 ,is it well that we should be disputing among ourselves concerning who shall have that credit which all belongs to ,christ8 ,i know it has been asked1 with disapprobation1 by very high authority 7not1 indeed1 by the ,board7 concerning the unity of the ,churches at ,amoy--how it came to exist at all4 ,in answer to such questions1 let us consider one case1 that of the ,station1 now ,church1 at ,e-mng-kang4 ,it is near enough to the ,first ,church1 at ,amoy1 to be under its supervision4 ,doubtless1 we might have said to our ,presbyterian brethren1 ,in gathering a church1 we are willing to labor with you in preaching the ,gospel1 for no one will censure us for that1 and we admit that1 by all principles of our ,church order1 it would be altogether proper that the converts gathered in at ,e-mng-kang should be received and watched over by the ,first ,church1 at ,amoy2 but1 by allowing this1 there will be danger of unity between the ,christians at ,e-mng-kang and ,amoy 7that they all may be one71 which will be a violation of the important and radical distinction existing between them1 because some are supported by our funds1 some by the funds of the ,english ,presbyterians2 and then1 when it becomes necessary to divide these ,churches1 for where there is such a radical distinction1 a division will necessarily come at some period1 and the longer it is delayed1 the more trying and sorrowful it will be1 it will be found that the ,church at ,amoy can never relinquish its powers and abnegate its authority over the ,church at ,e-mng-kang--therefore1 rather than incur such risks of unity1 we had better violate our principles of ,church order at the commencement1 and not allow the native ,elders any responsibility in receiving and watching over the ,church members4 ,we might have acted on such principles1 but shall we be censured for not doing it8 ,let it be distinctly understood1 that ,i do not publish the above ,reports with such remarks with any design of throwing blame on the ,board of ,foreign ,missions4 ,the members of it1 and the ,missionaries1 have had no feelings towards each other but such as are altogether pleasant4 ,perhaps the ,board1 in view of all the circumstances1 has simply performed its duty4 ,i add this ,appendix only to illustrate the unity of the churches at ,amoy1 and show that the ,missionaries have acted according to the doctrines of ,god's ,word and the fundamental principles of our ,church order4 ,appendix ,b4 ,in the ,christian ,intelligencer of ,june #ah1 #ahfc1 in the ,report of the ,proceedings of ,general ,synod of ,thursday1 ,june #aa1 the last day of the session1 appeared the following paragraphs3 ,,amoy ,,mission4 ,rev4 ,dr4 ,porter arose and said that he was about to utter what to himself was the gladdest and happiest word he had been permitted to speak during the ,synodical sessions1 delightful as they all had been4 ,he was informed by his beloved brother ,talmage1 that by permission of ,synod1 he would like to express briefly his content1 in the main1 with the action which the ,synod had taken respecting the ,amoy ,mission4 ,it is of the ,lord4 ,he has melted all hearts together as one1 for his own work and honor4 ,we see eye to eye1 and ,zion may lift up her voice in thanksgiving4 ,rev4 ,j4,v4,n4 ,talmage said he wished to express his gratitude to the fathers and brethren for all their kindness to himself and the ,missionaries at ,amoy4 ,if the ,synod has not arrived at the very best decision1 he hoped it is the best under the circumstances4 ,he felt no desire to disobey the ,synod1 nor will the ,missionaries at ,amoy4 ,if we cannot organize a ,classis at once1 we will do the best we can4 ,he had been defeated1 and he had no qualms of conscience in submitting to the decision that had been reached4 ,i was willing to allow the previous1 and1 as ,i considered1 very partial1 report of the proceedings of ,synod to pass unnoticed1 but felt that ,i had no right to allow errors1 such as are contained in the above two paragraphs1 to remain uncorrected4 ,therefore ,i addressed to the editor the following note3 ,to the ,christian ,intelligencer4 ,mr4 ,editor3 ,in looking over the report of ,general ,synod1 as given in the last number of the ,intelligencer1 ,i find a very grave mistake in reference to the position taken by me near the close of the session4 ,a similar mistake appears in the report made to the ,new ,york ,observer4#c ,footnote #c3 ,i addressed to the editors of the ,observer a card1 correcting the mistake which had appeared in their paper1 and they published it4 ,when1 in the order of business on ,thursday morning1 there seemed a suitable opportunity for me to address the ,synod1 ,i was sitting near ,dr4 ,porter1 and remarked to him that ,i wished to make such address4 ,he said that he desired to speak first4 ,he arose and addressed the ,synod1 in substance1 as is reported4 ,i was altogether surprised1 for ,i had given him no authority to speak for me2 neither had ,i expressed to him or any other man the sentiments he attributed to me4 ,i felt that his speech was altogether unfortunate1 for it seemed almost to demand of me a restatement of my views4 ,but ,i felt1 also1 that it would be improper1 then1 to occupy the time of ,synod with any further discussion1 and contented myself with merely taking exception to ,dr4 ,porter's statement1 saying that ,i could not use the language he had just used4 ,i also stated that although the ,synod had not arrived at the best decision1 yet perhaps it was the best under all the circumstances4 ,as these circumstances seem to be entirely misunderstood by some1 ,i may now explain them4 ,i had remarked in the previous debate1 and still firmly believe1 that the decision of ,synod1 if it be fully carried out1 would only be disastrous in its results1 as far as the churches at ,amoy were concerned4 ,but there was another disaster to be apprehended4 ,if the ,synod had allowed the work of ,god to proceed at ,amoy1 as it had always been carried forward1 and with such marvelous blessings from on high1 for so many years past1 it was feared that some of the members of ,synod would use their influence in the ,church against that ,mission1 to such an extent as possibly to cut off the resources of the mission4 ,such were the circumstances to which ,i alluded1 and ,i was well understood1 at least by some of the members of ,synod4 ,it seemed necessary to choose between two evils4 ,my own opinion was1 and is1 that the ,synod had chosen the greater evil1 still ,i was willing to yield 'the benefit of the doubt1' and therefore remarked that perhaps 7,i used the word 'perhaps'7 the decision was the best under the circumstances4 ,i did express for myself1 and as ,i believed1 in accordance with the views of the ,missionaries at ,amoy1 that we did not wish1 and never had wished to disobey the injunctions of ,synod4 ,besides this1 we were under obligations to do what was best for the churches under our care4 ,if we were not allowed to do that which is absolutely best1 we should do the best we could4 ,i also expressed my gratitude that the ,synod had manifested so much patience and ,christian courtesy towards myself and the ,mission1 for with one or two exceptions1 not an unkind word had been uttered4 ,the closing sentence of my remarks being somewhat playful1 might have been omitted from the report1 but if thought worthy of publication1 it should have been given correctly4 ,i know that ,i can give it now with accuracy1 almost verbatim4 ',i have fought hard1 and have been beaten2 ,i could wish ,i had been able to fight better1 but ,i did my best1 and consequently have no qualms of conscience on the subject4' ,does that mean that we had no qualms of conscience about 'submitting to the decision that had been reached8' ,no4 ,it means that ,i was not responsible for the evils of that decision4 ,it will1 ,i think1 serve the cause of truth1 ,mr4 ,editor1 if you will be so kind as to publish this card in your next issue4 ,if ,i was so unfortunate in the use of language as not to express sentiments similar to the above1 ,i desire now to express them4 ,allow me also to ask whether you will open the columns of your paper for a full statement of the views of the ,amoy ,mission on the subject of the ecclesiastical relations of the churches under their care8 ,i find that there is still altogether a mistaken impression among our churches on this subject4 ,our people who sustain the ,mission have a right to know the condition of that ,mission4 ,from the report in the last ,intelligencer1 they will get no light on that subject1 but will get the impression that some great mistake has been committed by the ,missionaries at ,amoy4 ,allowing this to be the case1 the ,missionaries have a right to be heard before the churches4 ,let the churches understand the matter1 and decide concerning the mistake4 ,the ,missionaries have been desirous for years to get their views made public1 but have not yet succeeded4 ,very truly1 yours1 c1 ,j4,v4,n4 ,,talmage4 ,june #ai1 #ahfc4 ,instead of finding my note inserted in the next number of the ,intelligencer ,i found the following3 ,,rev4 ,,mr4 ,,talmage',s ,,letter4 ,we have received from the ,rev4 ,j4,v4,n4 ,talmage1 a communication respecting our report of his remarks at the close of the session of the ,general ,synod1 accompanied with a request that he be permitted to appeal through these columns to the ,churches in support of his position4 ,the communication is long1 and perhaps we can give the substance of it briefly4 #ast4 ,he wishes to correct the statement of ,rev4 ,dr4 ,porter4 ,and this he shall do in his own words1 viz43 ',i felt that his speech was altogether unfortunate1 for it seemed almost to demand of me the restatement of my views4 ,but ,i felt1 also1 that it would be improper then to occupy the time of ,synod with any further discussion1 and contented myself with merely taking exception to ,dr4 ,porter's statements1 saying that ,i could not use the language he had just used4 ,i also stated that1 although the ,synod had not arrived at the best decision1 yet perhaps it was the best1 under all the circumstances4' ,so far ,mr4 ,talmage1 in disclaiming agreement with the statement made by ,dr4 ,porter4 ,we can1 on this point1 only express regret that there should have been either seeming or real difference4 ,but as ,brother ,talmage confesses that our report correctly represents him as having said1 that ',although the ,synod had not arrived at the best decision1 yet perhaps it was the best1 under all the circumstances1' ,we therefore suppose that the report of verbal differences--if the spirit of the remarks be anything--between him and the gentleman to whom he refers1 cannot be accounted as very serious4 #b;d4 ,as it respects the opening of these columns to a fresh discussion of the matter relating to the ,amoy ,churches before ,synod1 we have simply to say that we dare not give consent1 for the following reasons3 ,the ,synod is the legislative body for the ,church4 ,the documents and statements respecting the ,amoy ,churches were full and thorough in the information imparted4 ,four sessions and more of the ,synod were occupied with a careful preparatory hearing and final adjudication of the matter1 and it is not the duty of the ,christian ,intelligencer to allow itself to be used as the agent of dissension among the ,churches1 and of opposition to the constituted authority of the ,synod4 ,whether my views were misrepresented1 and whether ,i was charged with seeking a different object from that for which ,i had asked--,i had not asked that the columns of the paper be opened for a fresh discussion of the matter which had been before ,synod1 but for a full statement of the views of the ,amoy ,mission1 because of mistaken impressions in our ,churches--the ,church will be able to decide as accurately as myself4 ,but ,i wish to say this much4 ,your ,missionaries do not consider that by becoming ,missionaries they lose their rights as men1 and ,ministers of the ,dutch ,church4 ,they have the right to expect that1 when away from home1 their reputation will be protected4 ,when mistaken statements concerning their views get abroad in the ,church1 there should be1 and we believe there is1 a responsible party whose duty it is to correct such statements4 ,at any rate1 a paper which professes to be the organ of the ,dutch ,church1 has no right to refuse to the ,missionaries themselves the privilege of correcting mistaken statements of their own views and their own language1 that appear in its columns4 ,the ,editor doubtless is responsible for what appears in his paper4 ,he may refuse to publish improper articles1 but he may not garble and misrepresent them without incurring reproof4 ,the expense of publishing in pamphlet form corrections of mistakes which appear in the columns of a newspaper1 is too heavy a tax to impose on any of the ,ministry of the ,church1 especially on your ,missionaries2 and1 even then1 the corrections can be read by only a small portion of those who read the misstatements4