,apology by ,plato ,translated by ,benjamin ,jowett ,contents ,,introduction ,,apology ,,introduction4 ,in what relation the 8,apology0 of ,plato stands to the real defence of ,socrates1 there are no means of determining4 ,it certainly agrees in tone and character with the description of ,xenophon1 who says in the 8,memorabilia0 that ,socrates might have been acquitted 8if in any moderate degree he would have conciliated the favour of the dicasts20 and who informs us in another passage1 on the testimony of ,hermogenes1 the friend of ,socrates1 that he had no wish to live2 and that the divine sign refused to allow him to prepare a defence1 and also that ,socrates himself declared this to be unnecessary1 on the ground that all his life long he had been preparing against that hour4 ,for the speech breathes throughout a spirit of defiance1 8ut non supplex aut reus sed magister aut dominus videretur esse judicum0 7,cic4 8de ,orat40 i4 #ed72 and the loose and desultory style is an imitation of the 8accustomed manner0 in which ,socrates spoke in 8the agora and among the tables of the money-changers40 ,the allusion in the 8,crito0 7#de ,b7 may1 perhaps1 be adduced as a further evidence of the literal accuracy of some parts 7#cg ,c1 ,d74 ,but in the main it must be regarded as the ideal of ,socrates1 according to ,plato's conception of him1 appearing in the greatest and most public scene of his life1 and in the height of his triumph1 when he is weakest1 and yet his mastery over mankind is greatest1 and his habitual irony acquires a new meaning and a sort of tragic pathos in the face of death4 ,the facts of his life are summed up1 and the features of his character are brought out as if by accident in the course of the defence4 ,the conversational manner1 the seeming want of arrangement1 the ironical simplicity1 are found to result in a perfect work of art1 which is the portrait of ,socrates4 ,yet some of the topics may have been actually used by ,socrates2 and the recollection of his very words may have rung in the ears of his disciple4 ,the 8,apology0 of ,plato may be compared generally with those speeches of ,thucydides in which he has embodied his conception of the lofty character and policy of the great ,pericles1 and which at the same time furnish a commentary on the situation of affairs from the point of view of the historian4 ,so in the 8,apology0 there is an ideal rather than a literal truth2 much is said which was not said1 and is only ,plato's view of the situation4 ,plato was not1 like ,xenophon1 a chronicler of facts2 he does not appear in any of his writings to have aimed at literal accuracy4 ,he is not therefore to be supplemented from the ,memorabilia and ,symposium of ,xenophon1 who belongs to an entirely different class of writers4 ,the ,apology of ,plato is not the report of what ,socrates said1 but an elaborate composition1 quite as much so in fact as one of the ,dialogues4 ,and we may perhaps even indulge in the fancy that the actual defence of ,socrates was as much greater than the ,platonic defence as the master was greater than the disciple4 ,but in any case1 some of the words used by him must have been remembered1 and some of the facts recorded must have actually occurred4 ,it is significant that ,plato is said to have been present at the defence 7,apol471 as he is also said to have been absent at the last scene in the 8,phdo04 ,is it fanciful to suppose that he meant to give the stamp of authenticity to the one and not to the other8--especially when we consider that these two passages are the only ones in which ,plato makes mention of himself4 ,the circumstance that ,plato was to be one of his sureties for the payment of the fine which he proposed has the appearance of truth4 ,more suspicious is the statement that ,socrates received the first impulse to his favourite calling of cross-examining the world from the ,oracle of ,delphi2 for he must already have been famous before ,chaerephon went to consult the ,oracle 7,riddell71 and the story is of a kind which is very likely to have been invented4 ,on the whole we arrive at the conclusion that the 8,apology0 is true to the character of ,socrates1 but we cannot show that any single sentence in it was actually spoken by him4 ,it breathes the spirit of ,socrates1 but has been cast anew in the mould of ,plato4 ,there is not much in the other ,dialogues which can be compared with the 8,apology04 ,the same recollection of his master may have been present to the mind of ,plato when depicting the sufferings of the ,just in the 8,republic04 ,the 8,crito0 may also be regarded as a sort of appendage to the 8,apology01 in which ,socrates1 who has defied the judges1 is nevertheless represented as scrupulously obedient to the laws4 ,the idealization of the sufferer is carried still further in the 8,georgias01 in which the thesis is maintained1 that 8to suffer is better than to do evil20 and the art of rhetoric is described as only useful for the purpose of self-accusation4 ,the parallelisms which occur in the so-called 8,apology0 of ,xenophon are not worth noticing1 because the writing in which they are contained is manifestly spurious4 ,the statements of the 8,memorabilia0 respecting the trial and death of ,socrates agree generally with ,plato2 but they have lost the flavour of ,socratic irony in the narrative of ,xenophon4 ,the 8,apology0 or ,platonic defence of ,socrates is divided into three parts3 #ast4 ,the defence properly so called2 #bnd4 ,the shorter address in mitigation of the penalty2 #crd4 ,the last words of prophetic rebuke and exhortation4 ,the first part commences with an apology for his colloquial style2 he is1 as he has always been1 the enemy of rhetoric1 and knows of no rhetoric but truth2 he will not falsify his character by making a speech4 ,then he proceeds to divide his accusers into two classes2 first1 there is the nameless accuser--public opinion4 ,all the world from their earliest years had heard that he was a corrupter of youth1 and had seen him caricatured in the 8,clouds0 of ,aristophanes4 ,secondly1 there are the professed accusers1 who are but the mouth-piece of the others4 ,the accusations of both might be summed up in a formula4 ,the first say1 8,socrates is an evil-doer and a curious person1 searching into things under the earth and above the heaven2 and making the worse appear the better cause1 and teaching all this to others40 ,the second1 8,socrates is an evil-doer and corrupter of the youth1 who does not receive the gods whom the state receives1 but introduces other new divinities40 ,these last words appear to have been the actual indictment 7compare ,xen4 ,mem472 and the previous formula1 which is a summary of public opinion1 assumes the same legal style4 ,the answer begins by clearing up a confusion4 ,in the representations of the ,comic poets1 and in the opinion of the multitude1 he had been identified with the teachers of physical science and with the ,sophists4 ,but this was an error4 ,for both of them he professes a respect in the open court1 which contrasts with his manner of speaking about them in other places4 7,compare for ,anaxagoras1 ,phdo1 ,laws2 for the ,sophists1 ,meno1 ,republic1 ,tim41 ,theaet41 ,soph41 etc47 ,but at the same time he shows that he is not one of them4 ,of natural philosophy he knows nothing2 not that he despises such pursuits1 but the fact is that he is ignorant of them1 and never says a word about them4 ,nor is he paid for giving instruction--that is another mistaken notion3--he has nothing to teach4 ,but he commends ,evenus for teaching virtue at such a 8moderate0 rate as five min4 ,something of the 8accustomed irony10 which may perhaps be expected to sleep in the ear of the multitude1 is lurking here4 ,he then goes on to explain the reason why he is in such an evil name4 ,that had arisen out of a peculiar mission which he had taken upon himself4 ,the enthusiastic ,chaerephon 7probably in anticipation of the answer which he received7 had gone to ,delphi and asked the oracle if there was any man wiser than ,socrates2 and the answer was1 that there was no man wiser4 ,what could be the meaning of this--that he who knew nothing1 and knew that he knew nothing1 should be declared by the oracle to be the wisest of men8 ,reflecting upon the answer1 he determined to refute it by finding 8a wiser20 and first he went to the politicians1 and then to the poets1 and then to the craftsmen1 but always with the same result--he found that they knew nothing1 or hardly anything more than himself2 and that the little advantage which in some cases they possessed was more than counter-balanced by their conceit of knowledge4 ,he knew nothing1 and knew that he knew nothing3 they knew little or nothing1 and imagined that they knew all things4 ,thus he had passed his life as a sort of missionary in detecting the pretended wisdom of mankind2 and this occupation had quite absorbed him and taken him away both from public and private affairs4 ,young men of the richer sort had made a pastime of the same pursuit1 8which was not unamusing40 ,and hence bitter enmities had arisen2 the professors of knowledge had revenged themselves by calling him a villainous corrupter of youth1 and by repeating the commonplaces about atheism and materialism and sophistry1 which are the stock-accusations against all philosophers when there is nothing else to be said of them4 ,the second accusation he meets by interrogating ,meletus1 who is present and can be interrogated4 8,if he is the corrupter1 who is the improver of the citizens80 7,compare ,meno47 8,all men everywhere40 ,but how absurd1 how contrary to analogy is this6 ,how inconceivable too1 that he should make the citizens worse when he has to live with them4 ,this surely cannot be intentional2 and if unintentional1 he ought to have been instructed by ,meletus1 and not accused in the court4 ,but there is another part of the indictment which says that he teaches men not to receive the gods whom the city receives1 and has other new gods4 8,is that the way in which he is supposed to corrupt the youth80 8,yes1 it is40 8,has he only new gods1 or none at all80 8,none at all40 8,what1 not even the sun and moon80 8,no2 why1 he says that the sun is a stone1 and the moon earth40 ,that1 replies ,socrates1 is the old confusion about ,anaxagoras2 the ,athenian people are not so ignorant as to attribute to the influence of ,socrates notions which have found their way into the drama1 and may be learned at the theatre4 ,socrates undertakes to show that ,meletus 7rather unjustifiably7 has been compounding a riddle in this part of the indictment3 8,there are no gods1 but ,socrates believes in the existence of the sons of gods1 which is absurd40 ,leaving ,meletus1 who has had enough words spent upon him1 he returns to the original accusation4 ,the question may be asked1 ,why will he persist in following a profession which leads him to death8 ,why8--because he must remain at his post where the god has placed him1 as he remained at ,potidaea1 and ,amphipolis1 and ,delium1 where the generals placed him4 ,besides1 he is not so overwise as to imagine that he knows whether death is a good or an evil2 and he is certain that desertion of his duty is an evil4 ,anytus is quite right in saying that they should never have indicted him if they meant to let him go4 ,for he will certainly obey ,god rather than man2 and will continue to preach to all men of all ages the necessity of virtue and improvement2 and if they refuse to listen to him he will still persevere and reprove them4 ,this is his way of corrupting the youth1 which he will not cease to follow in obedience to the god1 even if a thousand deaths await him4 ,he is desirous that they should let him live--not for his own sake1 but for theirs2 because he is their heaven-sent friend 7and they will never have such another71 or1 as he may be ludicrously described1 he is the gadfly who stirs the generous steed into motion4 ,why then has he never taken part in public affairs8 ,because the familiar divine voice has hindered him2 if he had been a public man1 and had fought for the right1 as he would certainly have fought against the many1 he would not have lived1 and could therefore have done no good4 ,twice in public matters he has risked his life for the sake of justice--once at the trial of the generals2 and again in resistance to the tyrannical commands of the ,thirty4 ,but1 though not a public man1 he has passed his days in instructing the citizens without fee or reward--this was his mission4 ,whether his disciples have turned out well or ill1 he cannot justly be charged with the result1 for he never promised to teach them anything4 ,they might come if they liked1 and they might stay away if they liked3 and they did come1 because they found an amusement in hearing the pretenders to wisdom detected4 ,if they have been corrupted1 their elder relatives 7if not themselves7 might surely come into court and witness against him1 and there is an opportunity still for them to appear4 ,but their fathers and brothers all appear in court 7including 8this0 ,plato71 to witness on his behalf2 and if their relatives are corrupted1 at least they are uncorrupted2 8and they are my witnesses4 ,for they know that ,i am speaking the truth1 and that ,meletus is lying40 ,this is about all that he has to say4 ,he will not entreat the judges to spare his life2 neither will he present a spectacle of weeping children1 although he1 too1 is not made of 8rock or oak40 ,some of the judges themselves may have complied with this practice on similar occasions1 and he trusts that they will not be angry with him for not following their example4 ,but he feels that such conduct brings discredit on the name of ,athens3 he feels too1 that the judge has sworn not to give away justice2 and he cannot be guilty of the impiety of asking the judge to break his oath1 when he is himself being tried for impiety4 ,as he expected1 and probably intended1 he is convicted4 ,and now the tone of the speech1 instead of being more conciliatory1 becomes more lofty and commanding4 ,anytus proposes death as the penalty3 and what counter-proposition shall he make8 ,he1 the benefactor of the ,athenian people1 whose whole life has been spent in doing them good1 should at least have the ,olympic victor's reward of maintenance in the ,prytaneum4 ,or why should he propose any counter-penalty when he does not know whether death1 which ,anytus proposes1 is a good or an evil8 ,and he is certain that imprisonment is an evil1 exile is an evil4 ,loss of money might be an evil1 but then he has none to give2 perhaps he can make up a mina4 ,let that be the penalty1 or1 if his friends wish1 thirty min2 for which they will be excellent securities4 ,he is condemned to death4 ,he is an old man already1 and the ,athenians will gain nothing but disgrace by depriving him of a few years of life4 ,perhaps he could have escaped1 if he had chosen to throw down his arms and entreat for his life4 ,but he does not at all repent of the manner of his defence2 he would rather die in his own fashion than live in theirs4 ,for the penalty of unrighteousness is swifter than death2 that penalty has already overtaken his accusers as death will soon overtake him4 ,and now1 as one who is about to die1 he will prophesy to them4 ,they have put him to death in order to escape the necessity of giving an account of their lives4 ,but his death 8will be the seed0 of many disciples who will convince them of their evil ways1 and will come forth to reprove them in harsher terms1 because they are younger and more inconsiderate4 ,he would like to say a few words1 while there is time1 to those who would have acquitted him4 ,he wishes them to know that the divine sign never interrupted him in the course of his defence2 the reason of which1 as he conjectures1 is that the death to which he is going is a good and not an evil4 ,for either death is a long sleep1 the best of sleeps1 or a journey to another world in which the souls of the dead are gathered together1 and in which there may be a hope of seeing the heroes of old--in which1 too1 there are just judges2 and as all are immortal1 there can be no fear of any one suffering death for his opinions4 ,nothing evil can happen to the good man either in life or death1 and his own death has been permitted by the gods1 because it was better for him to depart2 and therefore he forgives his judges because they have done him no harm1 although they never meant to do him any good4 ,he has a last request to make to them--that they will trouble his sons as he has troubled them1 if they appear to prefer riches to virtue1 or to think themselves something when they are nothing4 8,few persons will be found to wish that ,socrates should have defended himself otherwise10--if1 as we must add1 his defence was that with which ,plato has provided him4 ,but leaving this question1 which does not admit of a precise solution1 we may go on to ask what was the impression which ,plato in the 8,apology0 intended to give of the character and conduct of his master in the last great scene8 ,did he intend to represent him 7#a7 as employing sophistries2 7#b7 as designedly irritating the judges8 ,or are these sophistries to be regarded as belonging to the age in which he lived and to his personal character1 and this apparent haughtiness as flowing from the natural elevation of his position8 ,for example1 when he says that it is absurd to suppose that one man is the corrupter and all the rest of the world the improvers of the youth2 or1 when he argues that he never could have corrupted the men with whom he had to live2 or1 when he proves his belief in the gods because he believes in the sons of gods1 is he serious or jesting8 ,it may be observed that these sophisms all occur in his cross-examination of ,meletus1 who is easily foiled and mastered in the hands of the great dialectician4 ,perhaps he regarded these answers as good enough for his accuser1 of whom he makes very light4 ,also there is a touch of irony in them1 which takes them out of the category of sophistry4 7,compare ,euthyph47 ,that the manner in which he defends himself about the lives of his disciples is not satisfactory1 can hardly be denied4 ,fresh in the memory of the ,athenians1 and detestable as they deserved to be to the newly restored democracy1 were the names of ,alcibiades1 ,critias1 ,charmides4 ,it is obviously not a sufficient answer that ,socrates had never professed to teach them anything1 and is therefore not justly chargeable with their crimes4 ,yet the defence1 when taken out of this ironical form1 is doubtless sound3 that his teaching had nothing to do with their evil lives4 ,here1 then1 the sophistry is rather in form than in substance1 though we might desire that to such a serious charge ,socrates had given a more serious answer4 ,truly characteristic of ,socrates is another point in his answer1 which may also be regarded as sophistical4 ,he says that 8if he has corrupted the youth1 he must have corrupted them involuntarily40 ,but if1 as ,socrates argues1 all evil is involuntary1 then all criminals ought to be admonished and not punished4 ,in these words the ,socratic doctrine of the involuntariness of evil is clearly intended to be conveyed4 ,here again1 as in the former instance1 the defence of ,socrates is untrue practically1 but may be true in some ideal or transcendental sense4 ,the commonplace reply1 that if he had been guilty of corrupting the youth their relations would surely have witnessed against him1 with which he concludes this part of his defence1 is more satisfactory4 ,again1 when ,socrates argues that he must believe in the gods because he believes in the sons of gods1 we must remember that this is a refutation not of the original indictment1 which is consistent enough--8,socrates does not receive the gods whom the city receives1 and has other new divinities0--but of the interpretation put upon the words by ,meletus1 who has affirmed that he is a downright atheist4 ,to this ,socrates fairly answers1 in accordance with the ideas of the time1 that a downright atheist cannot believe in the sons of gods or in divine things4 ,the notion that demons or lesser divinities are the sons of gods is not to be regarded as ironical or sceptical4 ,he is arguing 8ad hominem0 according to the notions of mythology current in his age4 ,yet he abstains from saying that he believed in the gods whom the ,state approved4 ,he does not defend himself1 as ,xenophon has defended him1 by appealing to his practice of religion4 ,probably he neither wholly believed1 nor disbelieved1 in the existence of the popular gods2 he had no means of knowing about them4 ,according to ,plato 7compare ,phdo2 ,symp471 as well as ,xenophon 7,memor471 he was punctual in the performance of the least religious duties2 and he must have believed in his own oracular sign1 of which he seemed to have an internal witness4 ,but the existence of ,apollo or ,zeus1 or the other gods whom the ,state approves1 would have appeared to him both uncertain and unimportant in comparison of the duty of self-examination1 and of those principles of truth and right which he deemed to be the foundation of religion4 7,compare ,phaedr42 ,euthyph42 ,republic47 ,the second question1 whether ,plato meant to represent ,socrates as braving or irritating his judges1 must also be answered in the negative4 ,his irony1 his superiority1 his audacity1 8regarding not the person of man10 necessarily flow out of the loftiness of his situation4 ,he is not acting a part upon a great occasion1 but he is what he has been all his life long1 8a king of men40 ,he would rather not appear insolent1 if he could avoid it 7ouch os authadizomenos touto lego74 ,neither is he desirous of hastening his own end1 for life and death are simply indifferent to him4 ,but such a defence as would be acceptable to his judges and might procure an acquittal1 it is not in his nature to make4 ,he will not say or do anything that might pervert the course of justice2 he cannot have his tongue bound even 8in the throat of death40 ,with his accusers he will only fence and play1 as he had fenced with other 8improvers of youth10 answering the ,sophist according to his sophistry all his life long4 ,he is serious when he is speaking of his own mission1 which seems to distinguish him from all other reformers of mankind1 and originates in an accident4 ,the dedication of himself to the improvement of his fellow-citizens is not so remarkable as the ironical spirit in which he goes about doing good only in vindication of the credit of the oracle1 and in the vain hope of finding a wiser man than himself4 ,yet this singular and almost accidental character of his mission agrees with the divine sign which1 according to our notions1 is equally accidental and irrational1 and is nevertheless accepted by him as the guiding principle of his life4 ,socrates is nowhere represented to us as a freethinker or sceptic4 ,there is no reason to doubt his sincerity when he speculates on the possibility of seeing and knowing the heroes of the ,trojan war in another world4 ,on the other hand1 his hope of immortality is uncertain2--he also conceives of death as a long sleep 7in this respect differing from the ,phdo71 and at last falls back on resignation to the divine will1 and the certainty that no evil can happen to the good man either in life or death4 ,his absolute truthfulness seems to hinder him from asserting positively more than this2 and he makes no attempt to veil his ignorance in mythology and figures of speech4 ,the gentleness of the first part of the speech contrasts with the aggravated1 almost threatening1 tone of the conclusion4 ,he characteristically remarks that he will not speak as a rhetorician1 that is to say1 he will not make a regular defence such as ,lysias or one of the orators might have composed for him1 or1 according to some accounts1 did compose for him4 ,but he first procures himself a hearing by conciliatory words4 ,he does not attack the ,sophists2 for they were open to the same charges as himself2 they were equally ridiculed by the ,comic poets1 and almost equally hateful to ,anytus and ,meletus4 ,yet incidentally the antagonism between ,socrates and the ,sophists is allowed to appear4 ,he is poor and they are rich2 his profession that he teaches nothing is opposed to their readiness to teach all things2 his talking in the marketplace to their private instructions2 his tarry-at-home life to their wandering from city to city4 ,the tone which he assumes towards them is one of real friendliness1 but also of concealed irony4 ,towards ,anaxagoras1 who had disappointed him in his hopes of learning about mind and nature1 he shows a less kindly feeling1 which is also the feeling of ,plato in other passages 7,laws74 ,but ,anaxagoras had been dead thirty years1 and was beyond the reach of persecution4 ,it has been remarked that the prophecy of a new generation of teachers who would rebuke and exhort the ,athenian people in harsher and more violent terms was1 as far as we know1 never fulfilled4 ,no inference can be drawn from this circumstance as to the probability of the words attributed to him having been actually uttered4 ,they express the aspiration of the first martyr of philosophy1 that he would leave behind him many followers1 accompanied by the not unnatural feeling that they would be fiercer and more inconsiderate in their words when emancipated from his control4 ,the above remarks must be understood as applying with any degree of certainty to the ,platonic ,socrates only4 ,for1 although these or similar words may have been spoken by ,socrates himself1 we cannot exclude the possibility1 that like so much else1 e4g4 the wisdom of ,critias1 the poem of ,solon1 the virtues of ,charmides1 they may have been due only to the imagination of ,plato4 ,the arguments of those who maintain that the ,apology was composed during the process1 resting on no evidence1 do not require a serious refutation4 ,nor are the reasonings of ,schleiermacher1 who argues that the ,platonic defence is an exact or nearly exact reproduction of the words of ,socrates1 partly because ,plato would not have been guilty of the impiety of altering them1 and also because many points of the defence might have been improved and strengthened1 at all more conclusive4 7,see ,english ,translation47 ,what effect the death of ,socrates produced on the mind of ,plato1 we cannot certainly determine2 nor can we say how he would or must have written under the circumstances4 ,we observe that the enmity of ,aristophanes to ,socrates does not prevent ,plato from introducing them together in the ,symposium engaged in friendly intercourse4 ,nor is there any trace in the ,dialogues of an attempt to make ,anytus or ,meletus personally odious in the eyes of the ,athenian public4 ,,apology ,how you1 ,o ,athenians1 have been affected by my accusers1 ,i cannot tell2 but ,i know that they almost made me forget who ,i was--so persuasively did they speak2 and yet they have hardly uttered a word of truth4 ,but of the many falsehoods told by them1 there was one which quite amazed me2--,i mean when they said that you should be upon your guard and not allow yourselves to be deceived by the force of my eloquence4 ,to say this1 when they were certain to be detected as soon as ,i opened my lips and proved myself to be anything but a great speaker1 did indeed appear to me most shameless--unless by the force of eloquence they mean the force of truth2 for if such is their meaning1 ,i admit that ,i am eloquent4 ,but in how different a way from theirs6 ,well1 as ,i was saying1 they have scarcely spoken the truth at all2 but from me you shall hear the whole truth3 not1 however1 delivered after their manner in a set oration duly ornamented with words and phrases4 ,no1 by heaven6 but ,i shall use the words and arguments which occur to me at the moment2 for ,i am confident in the justice of my cause 7,or1 ,i am certain that ,i am right in taking this course473 at my time of life ,i ought not to be appearing before you1 ,o men of ,athens1 in the character of a juvenile orator--let no one expect it of me4 ,and ,i must beg of you to grant me a favour3--,if ,i defend myself in my accustomed manner1 and you hear me using the words which ,i have been in the habit of using in the agora1 at the tables of the money-changers1 or anywhere else1 ,i would ask you not to be surprised1 and not to interrupt me on this account4 ,for ,i am more than seventy years of age1 and appearing now for the first time in a court of law1 ,i am quite a stranger to the language of the place2 and therefore ,i would have you regard me as if ,i were really a stranger1 whom you would excuse if he spoke in his native tongue1 and after the fashion of his country3--,am ,i making an unfair request of you8 ,never mind the manner1 which may or may not be good2 but think only of the truth of my words1 and give heed to that3 let the speaker speak truly and the judge decide justly4 ,and first1 ,i have to reply to the older charges and to my first accusers1 and then ,i will go on to the later ones4 ,for of old ,i have had many accusers1 who have accused me falsely to you during many years2 and ,i am more afraid of them than of ,anytus and his associates1 who are dangerous1 too1 in their own way4 ,but far more dangerous are the others1 who began when you were children1 and took possession of your minds with their falsehoods1 telling of one ,socrates1 a wise man1 who speculated about the heaven above1 and searched into the earth beneath1 and made the worse appear the better cause4 ,the disseminators of this tale are the accusers whom ,i dread2 for their hearers are apt to fancy that such enquirers do not believe in the existence of the gods4 ,and they are many1 and their charges against me are of ancient date1 and they were made by them in the days when you were more impressible than you are now--in childhood1 or it may have been in youth--and the cause when heard went by default1 for there was none to answer4 ,and hardest of all1 ,i do not know and cannot tell the names of my accusers2 unless in the chance case of a ,comic poet4 ,all who from envy and malice have persuaded you--some of them having first convinced themselves--all this class of men are most difficult to deal with2 for ,i cannot have them up here1 and cross-examine them1 and therefore ,i must simply fight with shadows in my own defence1 and argue when there is no one who answers4 ,i will ask you then to assume with me1 as ,i was saying1 that my opponents are of two kinds2 one recent1 the other ancient3 and ,i hope that you will see the propriety of my answering the latter first1 for these accusations you heard long before the others1 and much oftener4 ,well1 then1 ,i must make my defence1 and endeavour to clear away in a short time1 a slander which has lasted a long time4 ,may ,i succeed1 if to succeed be for my good and yours1 or likely to avail me in my cause6 ,the task is not an easy one2 ,i quite understand the nature of it4 ,and so leaving the event with ,god1 in obedience to the law ,i will now make my defence4 ,i will begin at the beginning1 and ask what is the accusation which has given rise to the slander of me1 and in fact has encouraged ,meletus to proof this charge against me4 ,well1 what do the slanderers say8 ,they shall be my prosecutors1 and ,i will sum up their words in an affidavit3 8,socrates is an evil-doer1 and a curious person1 who searches into things under the earth and in heaven1 and he makes the worse appear the better cause2 and he teaches the aforesaid doctrines to others40 ,such is the nature of the accusation3 it is just what you have yourselves seen in the comedy of ,aristophanes 7,aristoph41 ,clouds471 who has introduced a man whom he calls ,socrates1 going about and saying that he walks in air1 and talking a deal of nonsense concerning matters of which ,i do not pretend to know either much or little--not that ,i mean to speak disparagingly of any one who is a student of natural philosophy4 ,i should be very sorry if ,meletus could bring so grave a charge against me4 ,but the simple truth is1 ,o ,athenians1 that ,i have nothing to do with physical speculations4 ,very many of those here present are witnesses to the truth of this1 and to them ,i appeal4 ,speak then1 you who have heard me1 and tell your neighbours whether any of you have ever known me hold forth in few words or in many upon such matters444,you hear their answer4 ,and from what they say of this part of the charge you will be able to judge of the truth of the rest4 ,as little foundation is there for the report that ,i am a teacher1 and take money2 this accusation has no more truth in it than the other4 ,although1 if a man were really able to instruct mankind1 to receive money for giving instruction would1 in my opinion1 be an honour to him4 ,there is ,gorgias of ,leontium1 and ,prodicus of ,ceos1 and ,hippias of ,elis1 who go the round of the cities1 and are able to persuade the young men to leave their own citizens by whom they might be taught for nothing1 and come to them whom they not only pay1 but are thankful if they may be allowed to pay them4 ,there is at this time a ,parian philosopher residing in ,athens1 of whom ,i have heard2 and ,i came to hear of him in this way3--,i came across a man who has spent a world of money on the ,sophists1 ,callias1 the son of ,hipponicus1 and knowing that he had sons1 ,i asked him3 8,callias10 ,i said1 8if your two sons were foals or calves1 there would be no difficulty in finding some one to put over them2 we should hire a trainer of horses1 or a farmer probably1 who would improve and perfect them in their own proper virtue and excellence2 but as they are human beings1 whom are you thinking of placing over them8 ,is there any one who understands human and political virtue8 ,you must have thought about the matter1 for you have sons2 is there any one80 8,there is10 he said4 8,who is he80 said ,i2 8and of what country8 and what does he charge80 8,evenus the ,parian10 he replied2 8he is the man1 and his charge is five min40 ,happy is ,evenus1 ,i said to myself1 if he really has this wisdom1 and teaches at such a moderate charge4 ,had ,i the same1 ,i should have been very proud and conceited2 but the truth is that ,i have no knowledge of the kind4 ,i dare say1 ,athenians1 that some one among you will reply1 8,yes1 ,socrates1 but what is the origin of these accusations which are brought against you2 there must have been something strange which you have been doing8 ,all these rumours and this talk about you would never have arisen if you had been like other men3 tell us1 then1 what is the cause of them1 for we should be sorry to judge hastily of you40 ,now ,i regard this as a fair challenge1 and ,i will endeavour to explain to you the reason why ,i am called wise and have such an evil fame4 ,please to attend then4 ,and although some of you may think that ,i am joking1 ,i declare that ,i will tell you the entire truth4 ,men of ,athens1 this reputation of mine has come of a certain sort of wisdom which ,i possess4 ,if you ask me what kind of wisdom1 ,i reply1 wisdom such as may perhaps be attained by man1 for to that extent ,i am inclined to believe that ,i am wise2 whereas the persons of whom ,i was speaking have a superhuman wisdom which ,i may fail to describe1 because ,i have it not myself2 and he who says that ,i have1 speaks falsely1 and is taking away my character4 ,and here1 ,o men of ,athens1 ,i must beg you not to interrupt me1 even if ,i seem to say something extravagant4 ,for the word which ,i will speak is not mine4 ,i will refer you to a witness who is worthy of credit2 that witness shall be the ,god of ,delphi--he will tell you about my wisdom1 if ,i have any1 and of what sort it is4 ,you must have known ,chaerephon2 he was early a friend of mine1 and also a friend of yours1 for he shared in the recent exile of the people1 and returned with you4 ,well1 ,chaerephon1 as you know1 was very impetuous in all his doings1 and he went to ,delphi and boldly asked the oracle to tell him whether--as ,i was saying1 ,i must beg you not to interrupt--he asked the oracle to tell him whether anyone was wiser than ,i was1 and the ,pythian prophetess answered1 that there was no man wiser4 ,chaerephon is dead himself2 but his brother1 who is in court1 will confirm the truth of what ,i am saying4 ,why do ,i mention this8 ,because ,i am going to explain to you why ,i have such an evil name4 ,when ,i heard the answer1 ,i said to myself1 ,what can the god mean8 and what is the interpretation of his riddle8 for ,i know that ,i have no wisdom1 small or great4 ,what then can he mean when he says that ,i am the wisest of men8 ,and yet he is a god1 and cannot lie2 that would be against his nature4 ,after long consideration1 ,i thought of a method of trying the question4 ,i reflected that if ,i could only find a man wiser than myself1 then ,i might go to the god with a refutation in my hand4 ,i should say to him1 8,here is a man who is wiser than ,i am2 but you said that ,i was the wisest40 ,accordingly ,i went to one who had the reputation of wisdom1 and observed him--his name ,i need not mention2 he was a politician whom ,i selected for examination--and the result was as follows3 ,when ,i began to talk with him1 ,i could not help thinking that he was not really wise1 although he was thought wise by many1 and still wiser by himself2 and thereupon ,i tried to explain to him that he thought himself wise1 but was not really wise2 and the consequence was that he hated me1 and his enmity was shared by several who were present and heard me4 ,so ,i left him1 saying to myself1 as ,i went away3 ,well1 although ,i do not suppose that either of us knows anything really beautiful and good1 ,i am better off than he is1--for he knows nothing1 and thinks that he knows2 ,i neither know nor think that ,i know4 ,in this latter particular1 then1 ,i seem to have slightly the advantage of him4 ,then ,i went to another who had still higher pretensions to wisdom1 and my conclusion was exactly the same4 ,whereupon ,i made another enemy of him1 and of many others besides him4 ,then ,i went to one man after another1 being not unconscious of the enmity which ,i provoked1 and ,i lamented and feared this3 but necessity was laid upon me1--the word of ,god1 ,i thought1 ought to be considered first4 ,and ,i said to myself1 ,go ,i must to all who appear to know1 and find out the meaning of the oracle4 ,and ,i swear to you1 ,athenians1 by the dog ,i swear6--for ,i must tell you the truth--the result of my mission was just this3 ,i found that the men most in repute were all but the most foolish2 and that others less esteemed were really wiser and better4 ,i will tell you the tale of my wanderings and of the 8,herculean0 labours1 as ,i may call them1 which ,i endured only to find at last the oracle irrefutable4 ,after the politicians1 ,i went to the poets2 tragic1 dithyrambic1 and all sorts4 ,and there1 ,i said to myself1 you will be instantly detected2 now you will find out that you are more ignorant than they are4 ,accordingly1 ,i took them some of the most elaborate passages in their own writings1 and asked what was the meaning of them--thinking that they would teach me something4 ,will you believe me8 ,i am almost ashamed to confess the truth1 but ,i must say that there is hardly a person present who would not have talked better about their poetry than they did themselves4 ,then ,i knew that not by wisdom do poets write poetry1 but by a sort of genius and inspiration2 they are like diviners or soothsayers who also say many fine things1 but do not understand the meaning of them4 ,the poets appeared to me to be much in the same case2 and ,i further observed that upon the strength of their poetry they believed themselves to be the wisest of men in other things in which they were not wise4 ,so ,i departed1 conceiving myself to be superior to them for the same reason that ,i was superior to the politicians4 ,at last ,i went to the artisans4 ,i was conscious that ,i knew nothing at all1 as ,i may say1 and ,i was sure that they knew many fine things2 and here ,i was not mistaken1 for they did know many things of which ,i was ignorant1 and in this they certainly were wiser than ,i was4 ,but ,i observed that even the good artisans fell into the same error as the poets2--because they were good workmen they thought that they also knew all sorts of high matters1 and this defect in them overshadowed their wisdom2 and therefore ,i asked myself on behalf of the oracle1 whether ,i would like to be as ,i was1 neither having their knowledge nor their ignorance1 or like them in both2 and ,i made answer to myself and to the oracle that ,i was better off as ,i was4 ,this inquisition has led to my having many enemies of the worst and most dangerous kind1 and has given occasion also to many calumnies4 ,and ,i am called wise1 for my hearers always imagine that ,i myself possess the wisdom which ,i find wanting in others3 but the truth is1 ,o men of ,athens1 that ,god only is wise2 and by his answer he intends to show that the wisdom of men is worth little or nothing2 he is not speaking of ,socrates1 he is only using my name by way of illustration1 as if he said1 ,he1 ,o men1 is the wisest1 who1 like ,socrates1 knows that his wisdom is in truth worth nothing4 ,and so ,i go about the world1 obedient to the god1 and search and make enquiry into the wisdom of any one1 whether citizen or stranger1 who appears to be wise2 and if he is not wise1 then in vindication of the oracle ,i show him that he is not wise2 and my occupation quite absorbs me1 and ,i have no time to give either to any public matter of interest or to any concern of my own1 but ,i am in utter poverty by reason of my devotion to the god4 ,there is another thing3--young men of the richer classes1 who have not much to do1 come about me of their own accord2 they like to hear the pretenders examined1 and they often imitate me1 and proceed to examine others2 there are plenty of persons1 as they quickly discover1 who think that they know something1 but really know little or nothing2 and then those who are examined by them instead of being angry with themselves are angry with me3 ,this confounded ,socrates1 they say2 this villainous misleader of youth6--and then if somebody asks them1 ,why1 what evil does he practise or teach8 they do not know1 and cannot tell2 but in order that they may not appear to be at a loss1 they repeat the ready-made charges which are used against all philosophers about teaching things up in the clouds and under the earth1 and having no gods1 and making the worse appear the better cause2 for they do not like to confess that their pretence of knowledge has been detected--which is the truth2 and as they are numerous and ambitious and energetic1 and are drawn up in battle array and have persuasive tongues1 they have filled your ears with their loud and inveterate calumnies4 ,and this is the reason why my three accusers1 ,meletus and ,anytus and ,lycon1 have set upon me2 ,meletus1 who has a quarrel with me on behalf of the poets2 ,anytus1 on behalf of the craftsmen and politicians2 ,lycon1 on behalf of the rhetoricians3 and as ,i said at the beginning1 ,i cannot expect to get rid of such a mass of calumny all in a moment4 ,and this1 ,o men of ,athens1 is the truth and the whole truth2 ,i have concealed nothing1 ,i have dissembled nothing4 ,and yet1 ,i know that my plainness of speech makes them hate me1 and what is their hatred but a proof that ,i am speaking the truth8--,hence has arisen the prejudice against me2 and this is the reason of it1 as you will find out either in this or in any future enquiry4 ,i have said enough in my defence against the first class of my accusers2 ,i turn to the second class4 ,they are headed by ,meletus1 that good man and true lover of his country1 as he calls himself4 ,against these1 too1 ,i must try to make a defence3--,let their affidavit be read3 it contains something of this kind3 ,it says that ,socrates is a doer of evil1 who corrupts the youth2 and who does not believe in the gods of the state1 but has other new divinities of his own4 ,such is the charge2 and now let us examine the particular counts4 ,he says that ,i am a doer of evil1 and corrupt the youth2 but ,i say1 ,o men of ,athens1 that ,meletus is a doer of evil1 in that he pretends to be in earnest when he is only in jest1 and is so eager to bring men to trial from a pretended zeal and interest about matters in which he really never had the smallest interest4 ,and the truth of this ,i will endeavour to prove to you4 ,come hither1 ,meletus1 and let me ask a question of you4 ,you think a great deal about the improvement of youth8 ,yes1 ,i do4 ,tell the judges1 then1 who is their improver2 for you must know1 as you have taken the pains to discover their corrupter1 and are citing and accusing me before them4 ,speak1 then1 and tell the judges who their improver is4--,observe1 ,meletus1 that you are silent1 and have nothing to say4 ,but is not this rather disgraceful1 and a very considerable proof of what ,i was saying1 that you have no interest in the matter8 ,speak up1 friend1 and tell us who their improver is4 ,the laws4 ,but that1 my good sir1 is not my meaning4 ,i want to know who the person is1 who1 in the first place1 knows the laws4 ,the judges1 ,socrates1 who are present in court4 ,what1 do you mean to say1 ,meletus1 that they are able to instruct and improve youth8 ,certainly they are4 ,what1 all of them1 or some only and not others8 ,all of them4 ,by the goddess ,here1 that is good news6 ,there are plenty of improvers1 then4 ,and what do you say of the audience1--do they improve them8 ,yes1 they do4 ,and the senators8 ,yes1 the senators improve them4 ,but perhaps the members of the assembly corrupt them8--or do they too improve them8 ,they improve them4 ,then every ,athenian improves and elevates them2 all with the exception of myself2 and ,i alone am their corrupter8 ,is that what you affirm8 ,that is what ,i stoutly affirm4 ,i am very unfortunate if you are right4 ,but suppose ,i ask you a question3 ,how about horses8 ,does one man do them harm and all the world good8 ,is not the exact opposite the truth8 ,one man is able to do them good1 or at least not many2--the trainer of horses1 that is to say1 does them good1 and others who have to do with them rather injure them8 ,is not that true1 ,meletus1 of horses1 or of any other animals8 ,most assuredly it is2 whether you and ,anytus say yes or no4 ,happy indeed would be the condition of youth if they had one corrupter only1 and all the rest of the world were their improvers4 ,but you1 ,meletus1 have sufficiently shown that you never had a thought about the young3 your carelessness is seen in your not caring about the very things which you bring against me4 ,and now1 ,meletus1 ,i will ask you another question--by ,zeus ,i will3 ,which is better1 to live among bad citizens1 or among good ones8 ,answer1 friend1 ,i say2 the question is one which may be easily answered4 ,do not the good do their neighbours good1 and the bad do them evil8 ,certainly4 ,and is there anyone who would rather be injured than benefited by those who live with him8 ,answer1 my good friend1 the law requires you to answer--does any one like to be injured8 ,certainly not4 ,and when you accuse me of corrupting and deteriorating the youth1 do you allege that ,i corrupt them intentionally or unintentionally8 ,intentionally1 ,i say4 ,but you have just admitted that the good do their neighbours good1 and the evil do them evil4 ,now1 is that a truth which your superior wisdom has recognized thus early in life1 and am ,i1 at my age1 in such darkness and ignorance as not to know that if a man with whom ,i have to live is corrupted by me1 ,i am very likely to be harmed by him2 and yet ,i corrupt him1 and intentionally1 too--so you say1 although neither ,i nor any other human being is ever likely to be convinced by you4 ,but either ,i do not corrupt them1 or ,i corrupt them unintentionally2 and on either view of the case you lie4 ,if my offence is unintentional1 the law has no cognizance of unintentional offences3 you ought to have taken me privately1 and warned and admonished me2 for if ,i had been better advised1 ,i should have left off doing what ,i only did unintentionally--no doubt ,i should2 but you would have nothing to say to me and refused to teach me4 ,and now you bring me up in this court1 which is a place not of instruction1 but of punishment4 ,it will be very clear to you1 ,athenians1 as ,i was saying1 that ,meletus has no care at all1 great or small1 about the matter4 ,but still ,i should like to know1 ,meletus1 in what ,i am affirmed to corrupt the young4 ,i suppose you mean1 as ,i infer from your indictment1 that ,i teach them not to acknowledge the gods which the state acknowledges1 but some other new divinities or spiritual agencies in their stead4 ,these are the lessons by which ,i corrupt the youth1 as you say4 ,yes1 that ,i say emphatically4 ,then1 by the gods1 ,meletus1 of whom we are speaking1 tell me and the court1 in somewhat plainer terms1 what you mean6 for ,i do not as yet understand whether you affirm that ,i teach other men to acknowledge some gods1 and therefore that ,i do believe in gods1 and am not an entire atheist--this you do not lay to my charge1--but only you say that they are not the same gods which the city recognizes--the charge is that they are different gods4 ,or1 do you mean that ,i am an atheist simply1 and a teacher of atheism8 ,i mean the latter--that you are a complete atheist4 ,what an extraordinary statement6 ,why do you think so1 ,meletus8 ,do you mean that ,i do not believe in the godhead of the sun or moon1 like other men8 ,i assure you1 judges1 that he does not3 for he says that the sun is stone1 and the moon earth4 ,friend ,meletus1 you think that you are accusing ,anaxagoras3 and you have but a bad opinion of the judges1 if you fancy them illiterate to such a degree as not to know that these doctrines are found in the books of ,anaxagoras the ,clazomenian1 which are full of them4 ,and so1 forsooth1 the youth are said to be taught them by ,socrates1 when there are not unfrequently exhibitions of them at the theatre 7,probably in allusion to ,aristophanes who caricatured1 and to ,euripides who borrowed the notions of ,anaxagoras1 as well as to other dramatic poets47 7price of admission one drachma at the most72 and they might pay their money1 and laugh at ,socrates if he pretends to father these extraordinary views4 ,and so1 ,meletus1 you really think that ,i do not believe in any god8 ,i swear by ,zeus that you believe absolutely in none at all4 ,nobody will believe you1 ,meletus1 and ,i am pretty sure that you do not believe yourself4 ,i cannot help thinking1 men of ,athens1 that ,meletus is reckless and impudent1 and that he has written this indictment in a spirit of mere wantonness and youthful bravado4 ,has he not compounded a riddle1 thinking to try me8 ,he said to himself3--,i shall see whether the wise ,socrates will discover my facetious contradiction1 or whether ,i shall be able to deceive him and the rest of them4 ,for he certainly does appear to me to contradict himself in the indictment as much as if he said that ,socrates is guilty of not believing in the gods1 and yet of believing in them--but this is not like a person who is in earnest4 ,i should like you1 ,o men of ,athens1 to join me in examining what ,i conceive to be his inconsistency2 and do you1 ,meletus1 answer4 ,and ,i must remind the audience of my request that they would not make a disturbance if ,i speak in my accustomed manner3 ,did ever man1 ,meletus1 believe in the existence of human things1 and not of human beings8444,i wish1 men of ,athens1 that he would answer1 and not be always trying to get up an interruption4 ,did ever any man believe in horsemanship1 and not in horses8 or in flute-playing1 and not in flute-players8 ,no1 my friend2 ,i will answer to you and to the court1 as you refuse to answer for yourself4 ,there is no man who ever did4 ,but now please to answer the next question3 ,can a man believe in spiritual and divine agencies1 and not in spirits or demigods8 ,he cannot4 ,how lucky ,i am to have extracted that answer1 by the assistance of the court6 ,but then you swear in the indictment that ,i teach and believe in divine or spiritual agencies 7new or old1 no matter for that72 at any rate1 ,i believe in spiritual agencies1--so you say and swear in the affidavit2 and yet if ,i believe in divine beings1 how can ,i help believing in spirits or demigods2--must ,i not8 ,to be sure ,i must2 and therefore ,i may assume that your silence gives consent4 ,now what are spirits or demigods8 ,are they not either gods or the sons of gods8 ,certainly they are4 ,but this is what ,i call the facetious riddle invented by you3 the demigods or spirits are gods1 and you say first that ,i do not believe in gods1 and then again that ,i do believe in gods2 that is1 if ,i believe in demigods4 ,for if the demigods are the illegitimate sons of gods1 whether by the nymphs or by any other mothers1 of whom they are said to be the sons--what human being will ever believe that there are no gods if they are the sons of gods8 ,you might as well affirm the existence of mules1 and deny that of horses and asses4 ,such nonsense1 ,meletus1 could only have been intended by you to make trial of me4 ,you have put this into the indictment because you had nothing real of which to accuse me4 ,but no one who has a particle of understanding will ever be convinced by you that the same men can believe in divine and superhuman things1 and yet not believe that there are gods and demigods and heroes4 ,i have said enough in answer to the charge of ,meletus3 any elaborate defence is unnecessary1 but ,i know only too well how many are the enmities which ,i have incurred1 and this is what will be my destruction if ,i am destroyed2--not ,meletus1 nor yet ,anytus1 but the envy and detraction of the world1 which has been the death of many good men1 and will probably be the death of many more2 there is no danger of my being the last of them4 ,some one will say3 ,and are you not ashamed1 ,socrates1 of a course of life which is likely to bring you to an untimely end8 ,to him ,i may fairly answer3 ,there you are mistaken3 a man who is good for anything ought not to calculate the chance of living or dying2 he ought only to consider whether in doing anything he is doing right or wrong--acting the part of a good man or of a bad4 ,whereas1 upon your view1 the heroes who fell at ,troy were not good for much1 and the son of ,thetis above all1 who altogether despised danger in comparison with disgrace2 and when he was so eager to slay ,hector1 his goddess mother said to him1 that if he avenged his companion ,patroclus1 and slew ,hector1 he would die himself--8,fate10 she said1 in these or the like words1 8waits for you next after ,hector20 he1 receiving this warning1 utterly despised danger and death1 and instead of fearing them1 feared rather to live in dishonour1 and not to avenge his friend4 8,let me die forthwith10 he replies1 8and be avenged of my enemy1 rather than abide here by the beaked ships1 a laughing-stock and a burden of the earth40 ,had ,achilles any thought of death and danger8 ,for wherever a man's place is1 whether the place which he has chosen or that in which he has been placed by a commander1 there he ought to remain in the hour of danger2 he should not think of death or of anything but of disgrace4 ,and this1 ,o men of ,athens1 is a true saying4 ,strange1 indeed1 would be my conduct1 ,o men of ,athens1 if ,i who1 when ,i was ordered by the generals whom you chose to command me at ,potidaea and ,amphipolis and ,delium1 remained where they placed me1 like any other man1 facing death--if now1 when1 as ,i conceive and imagine1 ,god orders me to fulfil the philosopher's mission of searching into myself and other men1 ,i were to desert my post through fear of death1 or any other fear2 that would indeed be strange1 and ,i might justly be arraigned in court for denying the existence of the gods1 if ,i disobeyed the oracle because ,i was afraid of death1 fancying that ,i was wise when ,i was not wise4 ,for the fear of death is indeed the pretence of wisdom1 and not real wisdom1 being a pretence of knowing the unknown2 and no one knows whether death1 which men in their fear apprehend to be the greatest evil1 may not be the greatest good4 ,is not this ignorance of a disgraceful sort1 the ignorance which is the conceit that a man knows what he does not know8 ,and in this respect only ,i believe myself to differ from men in general1 and may perhaps claim to be wiser than they are3--that whereas ,i know but little of the world below1 ,i do not suppose that ,i know3 but ,i do know that injustice and disobedience to a better1 whether ,god or man1 is evil and dishonourable1 and ,i will never fear or avoid a possible good rather than a certain evil4 ,and therefore if you let me go now1 and are not convinced by ,anytus1 who said that since ,i had been prosecuted ,i must be put to death2 7or if not that ,i ought never to have been prosecuted at all72 and that if ,i escape now1 your sons will all be utterly ruined by listening to my words--if you say to me1 ,socrates1 this time we will not mind ,anytus1 and you shall be let off1 but upon one condition1 that you are not to enquire and speculate in this way any more1 and that if you are caught doing so again you shall die2--if this was the condition on which you let me go1 ,i should reply3 ,men of ,athens1 ,i honour and love you2 but ,i shall obey ,god rather than you1 and while ,i have life and strength ,i shall never cease from the practice and teaching of philosophy1 exhorting any one whom ,i meet and saying to him after my manner3 ,you1 my friend1--a citizen of the great and mighty and wise city of ,athens1--are you not ashamed of heaping up the greatest amount of money and honour and reputation1 and caring so little about wisdom and truth and the greatest improvement of the soul1 which you never regard or heed at all8 ,and if the person with whom ,i am arguing1 says3 ,yes1 but ,i do care2 then ,i do not leave him or let him go at once2 but ,i proceed to interrogate and examine and cross-examine him1 and if ,i think that he has no virtue in him1 but only says that he has1 ,i reproach him with undervaluing the greater1 and overvaluing the less4 ,and ,i shall repeat the same words to every one whom ,i meet1 young and old1 citizen and alien1 but especially to the citizens1 inasmuch as they are my brethren4 ,for know that this is the command of ,god2 and ,i believe that no greater good has ever happened in the state than my service to the ,god4 ,for ,i do nothing but go about persuading you all1 old and young alike1 not to take thought for your persons or your properties1 but first and chiefly to care about the greatest improvement of the soul4 ,i tell you that virtue is not given by money1 but that from virtue comes money and every other good of man1 public as well as private4 ,this is my teaching1 and if this is the doctrine which corrupts the youth1 ,i am a mischievous person4 ,but if any one says that this is not my teaching1 he is speaking an untruth4 ,wherefore1 ,o men of ,athens1 ,i say to you1 do as ,anytus bids or not as ,anytus bids1 and either acquit me or not2 but whichever you do1 understand that ,i shall never alter my ways1 not even if ,i have to die many times4 ,men of ,athens1 do not interrupt1 but hear me2 there was an understanding between us that you should hear me to the end3 ,i have something more to say1 at which you may be inclined to cry out2 but ,i believe that to hear me will be good for you1 and therefore ,i beg that you will not cry out4 ,i would have you know1 that if you kill such an one as ,i am1 you will injure yourselves more than you will injure me4 ,nothing will injure me1 not ,meletus nor yet ,anytus--they cannot1 for a bad man is not permitted to injure a better than himself4 ,i do not deny that ,anytus may1 perhaps1 kill him1 or drive him into exile1 or deprive him of civil rights2 and he may imagine1 and others may imagine1 that he is inflicting a great injury upon him3 but there ,i do not agree4 ,for the evil of doing as he is doing--the evil of unjustly taking away the life of another--is greater far4 ,and now1 ,athenians1 ,i am not going to argue for my own sake1 as you may think1 but for yours1 that you may not sin against the ,god by condemning me1 who am his gift to you4 ,for if you kill me you will not easily find a successor to me1 who1 if ,i may use such a ludicrous figure of speech1 am a sort of gadfly1 given to the state by ,god2 and the state is a great and noble steed who is tardy in his motions owing to his very size1 and requires to be stirred into life4 ,i am that gadfly which ,god has attached to the state1 and all day long and in all places am always fastening upon you1 arousing and persuading and reproaching you4 ,you will not easily find another like me1 and therefore ,i would advise you to spare me4 ,i dare say that you may feel out of temper 7like a person who is suddenly awakened from sleep71 and you think that you might easily strike me dead as ,anytus advises1 and then you would sleep on for the remainder of your lives1 unless ,god in his care of you sent you another gadfly4 ,when ,i say that ,i am given to you by ,god1 the proof of my mission is this3--if ,i had been like other men1 ,i should not have neglected all my own concerns or patiently seen the neglect of them during all these years1 and have been doing yours1 coming to you individually like a father or elder brother1 exhorting you to regard virtue2 such conduct1 ,i say1 would be unlike human nature4 ,if ,i had gained anything1 or if my exhortations had been paid1 there would have been some sense in my doing so2 but now1 as you will perceive1 not even the impudence of my accusers dares to say that ,i have ever exacted or sought pay of any one2 of that they have no witness4 ,and ,i have a sufficient witness to the truth of what ,i say--my poverty4 ,some one may wonder why ,i go about in private giving advice and busying myself with the concerns of others1 but do not venture to come forward in public and advise the state4 ,i will tell you why4 ,you have heard me speak at sundry times and in divers places of an oracle or sign which comes to me1 and is the divinity which ,meletus ridicules in the indictment4 ,this sign1 which is a kind of voice1 first began to come to me when ,i was a child2 it always forbids but never commands me to do anything which ,i am going to do4 ,this is what deters me from being a politician4 ,and rightly1 as ,i think4 ,for ,i am certain1 ,o men of ,athens1 that if ,i had engaged in politics1 ,i should have perished long ago1 and done no good either to you or to myself4 ,and do not be offended at my telling you the truth3 for the truth is1 that no man who goes to war with you or any other multitude1 honestly striving against the many lawless and unrighteous deeds which are done in a state1 will save his life2 he who will fight for the right1 if he would live even for a brief space1 must have a private station and not a public one4 ,i can give you convincing evidence of what ,i say1 not words only1 but what you value far more--actions4 ,let me relate to you a passage of my own life which will prove to you that ,i should never have yielded to injustice from any fear of death1 and that 8as ,i should have refused to yield0 ,i must have died at once4 ,i will tell you a tale of the courts1 not very interesting perhaps1 but nevertheless true4 ,the only office of state which ,i ever held1 ,o men of ,athens1 was that of senator3 the tribe ,antiochis1 which is my tribe1 had the presidency at the trial of the generals who had not taken up the bodies of the slain after the battle of ,arginusae2 and you proposed to try them in a body1 contrary to law1 as you all thought afterwards2 but at the time ,i was the only one of the ,prytanes who was opposed to the illegality1 and ,i gave my vote against you2 and when the orators threatened to impeach and arrest me1 and you called and shouted1 ,i made up my mind that ,i would run the risk1 having law and justice with me1 rather than take part in your injustice because ,i feared imprisonment and death4 ,this happened in the days of the democracy4 ,but when the oligarchy of the ,thirty was in power1 they sent for me and four others into the rotunda1 and bade us bring ,leon the ,salaminian from ,salamis1 as they wanted to put him to death4 ,this was a specimen of the sort of commands which they were always giving with the view of implicating as many as possible in their crimes2 and then ,i showed1 not in word only but in deed1 that1 if ,i may be allowed to use such an expression1 ,i cared not a straw for death1 and that my great and only care was lest ,i should do an unrighteous or unholy thing4 ,for the strong arm of that oppressive power did not frighten me into doing wrong2 and when we came out of the rotunda the other four went to ,salamis and fetched ,leon1 but ,i went quietly home4 ,for which ,i might have lost my life1 had not the power of the ,thirty shortly afterwards come to an end4 ,and many will witness to my words4 ,now do you really imagine that ,i could have survived all these years1 if ,i had led a public life1 supposing that like a good man ,i had always maintained the right and had made justice1 as ,i ought1 the first thing8 ,no indeed1 men of ,athens1 neither ,i nor any other man4 ,but ,i have been always the same in all my actions1 public as well as private1 and never have ,i yielded any base compliance to those who are slanderously termed my disciples1 or to any other4 ,not that ,i have any regular disciples4 ,but if any one likes to come and hear me while ,i am pursuing my mission1 whether he be young or old1 he is not excluded4 ,nor do ,i converse only with those who pay2 but any one1 whether he be rich or poor1 may ask and answer me and listen to my words2 and whether he turns out to be a bad man or a good one1 neither result can be justly imputed to me2 for ,i never taught or professed to teach him anything4 ,and if any one says that he has ever learned or heard anything from me in private which all the world has not heard1 let me tell you that he is lying4 ,but ,i shall be asked1 ,why do people delight in continually conversing with you8 ,i have told you already1 ,athenians1 the whole truth about this matter3 they like to hear the cross-examination of the pretenders to wisdom2 there is amusement in it4 ,now this duty of cross-examining other men has been imposed upon me by ,god2 and has been signified to me by oracles1 visions1 and in every way in which the will of divine power was ever intimated to any one4 ,this is true1 ,o ,athenians1 or1 if not true1 would be soon refuted4 ,if ,i am or have been corrupting the youth1 those of them who are now grown up and have become sensible that ,i gave them bad advice in the days of their youth should come forward as accusers1 and take their revenge2 or if they do not like to come themselves1 some of their relatives1 fathers1 brothers1 or other kinsmen1 should say what evil their families have suffered at my hands4 ,now is their time4 ,many of them ,i see in the court4 ,there is ,crito1 who is of the same age and of the same deme with myself1 and there is ,critobulus his son1 whom ,i also see4 ,then again there is ,lysanias of ,sphettus1 who is the father of ,aeschines--he is present2 and also there is ,antiphon of ,cephisus1 who is the father of ,epigenes2 and there are the brothers of several who have associated with me4 ,there is ,nicostratus the son of ,theosdotides1 and the brother of ,theodotus 7now ,theodotus himself is dead1 and therefore he1 at any rate1 will not seek to stop him72 and there is ,paralus the son of ,demodocus1 who had a brother ,theages2 and ,adeimantus the son of ,ariston1 whose brother ,plato is present2 and ,aeantodorus1 who is the brother of ,apollodorus1 whom ,i also see4 ,i might mention a great many others1 some of whom ,meletus should have produced as witnesses in the course of his speech2 and let him still produce them1 if he has forgotten--,i will make way for him4 ,and let him say1 if he has any testimony of the sort which he can produce4 ,nay1 ,athenians1 the very opposite is the truth4 ,for all these are ready to witness on behalf of the corrupter1 of the injurer of their kindred1 as ,meletus and ,anytus call me2 not the corrupted youth only--there might have been a motive for that--but their uncorrupted elder relatives4 ,why should they too support me with their testimony8 ,why1 indeed1 except for the sake of truth and justice1 and because they know that ,i am speaking the truth1 and that ,meletus is a liar4 ,well1 ,athenians1 this and the like of this is all the defence which ,i have to offer4 ,yet a word more4 ,perhaps there may be some one who is offended at me1 when he calls to mind how he himself on a similar1 or even a less serious occasion1 prayed and entreated the judges with many tears1 and how he produced his children in court1 which was a moving spectacle1 together with a host of relations and friends2 whereas ,i1 who am probably in danger of my life1 will do none of these things4 ,the contrast may occur to his mind1 and he may be set against me1 and vote in anger because he is displeased at me on this account4 ,now if there be such a person among you1--mind1 ,i do not say that there is1--to him ,i may fairly reply3 ,my friend1 ,i am a man1 and like other men1 a creature of flesh and blood1 and not 8of wood or stone10 as ,homer says2 and ,i have a family1 yes1 and sons1 ,o ,athenians1 three in number1 one almost a man1 and two others who are still young2 and yet ,i will not bring any of them hither in order to petition you for an acquittal4 ,and why not8 ,not from any self-assertion or want of respect for you4 ,whether ,i am or am not afraid of death is another question1 of which ,i will not now speak4 ,but1 having regard to public opinion1 ,i feel that such conduct would be discreditable to myself1 and to you1 and to the whole state4 ,one who has reached my years1 and who has a name for wisdom1 ought not to demean himself4 ,whether this opinion of me be deserved or not1 at any rate the world has decided that ,socrates is in some way superior to other men4 ,and if those among you who are said to be superior in wisdom and courage1 and any other virtue1 demean themselves in this way1 how shameful is their conduct6 ,i have seen men of reputation1 when they have been condemned1 behaving in the strangest manner3 they seemed to fancy that they were going to suffer something dreadful if they died1 and that they could be immortal if you only allowed them to live2 and ,i think that such are a dishonour to the state1 and that any stranger coming in would have said of them that the most eminent men of ,athens1 to whom the ,athenians themselves give honour and command1 are no better than women4 ,and ,i say that these things ought not to be done by those of us who have a reputation2 and if they are done1 you ought not to permit them2 you ought rather to show that you are far more disposed to condemn the man who gets up a doleful scene and makes the city ridiculous1 than him who holds his peace4 ,but1 setting aside the question of public opinion1 there seems to be something wrong in asking a favour of a judge1 and thus procuring an acquittal1 instead of informing and convincing him4 ,for his duty is1 not to make a present of justice1 but to give judgment2 and he has sworn that he will judge according to the laws1 and not according to his own good pleasure2 and we ought not to encourage you1 nor should you allow yourselves to be encouraged1 in this habit of perjury--there can be no piety in that4 ,do not then require me to do what ,i consider dishonourable and impious and wrong1 especially now1 when ,i am being tried for impiety on the indictment of ,meletus4 ,for if1 ,o men of ,athens1 by force of persuasion and entreaty ,i could overpower your oaths1 then ,i should be teaching you to believe that there are no gods1 and in defending should simply convict myself of the charge of not believing in them4 ,but that is not so--far otherwise4 ,for ,i do believe that there are gods1 and in a sense higher than that in which any of my accusers believe in them4 ,and to you and to ,god ,i commit my cause1 to be determined by you as is best for you and me4 ,there are many reasons why ,i am not grieved1 ,o men of ,athens1 at the vote of condemnation4 ,i expected it1 and am only surprised that the votes are so nearly equal2 for ,i had thought that the majority against me would have been far larger2 but now1 had thirty votes gone over to the other side1 ,i should have been acquitted4 ,and ,i may say1 ,i think1 that ,i have escaped ,meletus4 ,i may say more2 for without the assistance of ,anytus and ,lycon1 any one may see that he would not have had a fifth part of the votes1 as the law requires1 in which case he would have incurred a fine of a thousand drachmae4 ,and so he proposes death as the penalty4 ,and what shall ,i propose on my part1 ,o men of ,athens8 ,clearly that which is my due4 ,and what is my due8 ,what return shall be made to the man who has never had the wit to be idle during his whole life2 but has been careless of what the many care for--wealth1 and family interests1 and military offices1 and speaking in the assembly1 and magistracies1 and plots1 and parties4 ,reflecting that ,i was really too honest a man to be a politician and live1 ,i did not go where ,i could do no good to you or to myself2 but where ,i could do the greatest good privately to every one of you1 thither ,i went1 and sought to persuade every man among you that he must look to himself1 and seek virtue and wisdom before he looks to his private interests1 and look to the state before he looks to the interests of the state2 and that this should be the order which he observes in all his actions4 ,what shall be done to such an one8 ,doubtless some good thing1 ,o men of ,athens1 if he has his reward2 and the good should be of a kind suitable to him4 ,what would be a reward suitable to a poor man who is your benefactor1 and who desires leisure that he may instruct you8 ,there can be no reward so fitting as maintenance in the ,prytaneum1 ,o men of ,athens1 a reward which he deserves far more than the citizen who has won the prize at ,olympia in the horse or chariot race1 whether the chariots were drawn by two horses or by many4 ,for ,i am in want1 and he has enough2 and he only gives you the appearance of happiness1 and ,i give you the reality4 ,and if ,i am to estimate the penalty fairly1 ,i should say that maintenance in the ,prytaneum is the just return4 ,perhaps you think that ,i am braving you in what ,i am saying now1 as in what ,i said before about the tears and prayers4 ,but this is not so4 ,i speak rather because ,i am convinced that ,i never intentionally wronged any one1 although ,i cannot convince you--the time has been too short2 if there were a law at ,athens1 as there is in other cities1 that a capital cause should not be decided in one day1 then ,i believe that ,i should have convinced you4 ,but ,i cannot in a moment refute great slanders2 and1 as ,i am convinced that ,i never wronged another1 ,i will assuredly not wrong myself4 ,i will not say of myself that ,i deserve any evil1 or propose any penalty4 ,why should ,i8 because ,i am afraid of the penalty of death which ,meletus proposes8 ,when ,i do not know whether death is a good or an evil1 why should ,i propose a penalty which would certainly be an evil8 ,shall ,i say imprisonment8 ,and why should ,i live in prison1 and be the slave of the magistrates of the year--of the ,eleven8 ,or shall the penalty be a fine1 and imprisonment until the fine is paid8 ,there is the same objection4 ,i should have to lie in prison1 for money ,i have none1 and cannot pay4 ,and if ,i say exile 7and this may possibly be the penalty which you will affix71 ,i must indeed be blinded by the love of life1 if ,i am so irrational as to expect that when you1 who are my own citizens1 cannot endure my discourses and words1 and have found them so grievous and odious that you will have no more of them1 others are likely to endure me4 ,no indeed1 men of ,athens1 that is not very likely4 ,and what a life should ,i lead1 at my age1 wandering from city to city1 ever changing my place of exile1 and always being driven out6 ,for ,i am quite sure that wherever ,i go1 there1 as here1 the young men will flock to me2 and if ,i drive them away1 their elders will drive me out at their request2 and if ,i let them come1 their fathers and friends will drive me out for their sakes4 ,some one will say3 ,yes1 ,socrates1 but cannot you hold your tongue1 and then you may go into a foreign city1 and no one will interfere with you8 ,now ,i have great difficulty in making you understand my answer to this4 ,for if ,i tell you that to do as you say would be a disobedience to the ,god1 and therefore that ,i cannot hold my tongue1 you will not believe that ,i am serious2 and if ,i say again that daily to discourse about virtue1 and of those other things about which you hear me examining myself and others1 is the greatest good of man1 and that the unexamined life is not worth living1 you are still less likely to believe me4 ,yet ,i say what is true1 although a thing of which it is hard for me to persuade you4 ,also1 ,i have never been accustomed to think that ,i deserve to suffer any harm4 ,had ,i money ,i might have estimated the offence at what ,i was able to pay1 and not have been much the worse4 ,but ,i have none1 and therefore ,i must ask you to proportion the fine to my means4 ,well1 perhaps ,i could afford a mina1 and therefore ,i propose that penalty3 ,plato1 ,crito1 ,critobulus1 and ,apollodorus1 my friends here1 bid me say thirty min1 and they will be the sureties4 ,let thirty min be the penalty2 for which sum they will be ample security to you4 ,not much time will be gained1 ,o ,athenians1 in return for the evil name which you will get from the detractors of the city1 who will say that you killed ,socrates1 a wise man2 for they will call me wise1 even although ,i am not wise1 when they want to reproach you4 ,if you had waited a little while1 your desire would have been fulfilled in the course of nature4 ,for ,i am far advanced in years1 as you may perceive1 and not far from death4 ,i am speaking now not to all of you1 but only to those who have condemned me to death4 ,and ,i have another thing to say to them3 you think that ,i was convicted because ,i had no words of the sort which would have procured my acquittal--,i mean1 if ,i had thought fit to leave nothing undone or unsaid4 ,not so2 the deficiency which led to my conviction was not of words--certainly not4 ,but ,i had not the boldness or impudence or inclination to address you as you would have liked me to do1 weeping and wailing and lamenting1 and saying and doing many things which you have been accustomed to hear from others1 and which1 as ,i maintain1 are unworthy of me4 ,i thought at the time that ,i ought not to do anything common or mean when in danger3 nor do ,i now repent of the style of my defence2 ,i would rather die having spoken after my manner1 than speak in your manner and live4 ,for neither in war nor yet at law ought ,i or any man to use every way of escaping death4 ,often in battle there can be no doubt that if a man will throw away his arms1 and fall on his knees before his pursuers1 he may escape death2 and in other dangers there are other ways of escaping death1 if a man is willing to say and do anything4 ,the difficulty1 my friends1 is not to avoid death1 but to avoid unrighteousness2 for that runs faster than death4 ,i am old and move slowly1 and the slower runner has overtaken me1 and my accusers are keen and quick1 and the faster runner1 who is unrighteousness1 has overtaken them4 ,and now ,i depart hence condemned by you to suffer the penalty of death1--they too go their ways condemned by the truth to suffer the penalty of villainy and wrong2 and ,i must abide by my award--let them abide by theirs4 ,i suppose that these things may be regarded as fated1--and ,i think that they are well4 ,and now1 ,o men who have condemned me1 ,i would fain prophesy to you2 for ,i am about to die1 and in the hour of death men are gifted with prophetic power4 ,and ,i prophesy to you who are my murderers1 that immediately after my departure punishment far heavier than you have inflicted on me will surely await you4 ,me you have killed because you wanted to escape the accuser1 and not to give an account of your lives4 ,but that will not be as you suppose3 far otherwise4 ,for ,i say that there will be more accusers of you than there are now2 accusers whom hitherto ,i have restrained3 and as they are younger they will be more inconsiderate with you1 and you will be more offended at them4 ,if you think that by killing men you can prevent some one from censuring your evil lives1 you are mistaken2 that is not a way of escape which is either possible or honourable2 the easiest and the noblest way is not to be disabling others1 but to be improving yourselves4 ,this is the prophecy which ,i utter before my departure to the judges who have condemned me4 ,friends1 who would have acquitted me1 ,i would like also to talk with you about the thing which has come to pass1 while the magistrates are busy1 and before ,i go to the place at which ,i must die4 ,stay then a little1 for we may as well talk with one another while there is time4 ,you are my friends1 and ,i should like to show you the meaning of this event which has happened to me4 ,o my judges--for you ,i may truly call judges--,i should like to tell you of a wonderful circumstance4 ,hitherto the divine faculty of which the internal oracle is the source has constantly been in the habit of opposing me even about trifles1 if ,i was going to make a slip or error in any matter2 and now as you see there has come upon me that which may be thought1 and is generally believed to be1 the last and worst evil4 ,but the oracle made no sign of opposition1 either when ,i was leaving my house in the morning1 or when ,i was on my way to the court1 or while ,i was speaking1 at anything which ,i was going to say2 and yet ,i have often been stopped in the middle of a speech1 but now in nothing ,i either said or did touching the matter in hand has the oracle opposed me4 ,what do ,i take to be the explanation of this silence8 ,i will tell you4 ,it is an intimation that what has happened to me is a good1 and that those of us who think that death is an evil are in error4 ,for the customary sign would surely have opposed me had ,i been going to evil and not to good4 ,let us reflect in another way1 and we shall see that there is great reason to hope that death is a good2 for one of two things--either death is a state of nothingness and utter unconsciousness1 or1 as men say1 there is a change and migration of the soul from this world to another4 ,now if you suppose that there is no consciousness1 but a sleep like the sleep of him who is undisturbed even by dreams1 death will be an unspeakable gain4 ,for if a person were to select the night in which his sleep was undisturbed even by dreams1 and were to compare with this the other days and nights of his life1 and then were to tell us how many days and nights he had passed in the course of his life better and more pleasantly than this one1 ,i think that any man1 ,i will not say a private man1 but even the great king will not find many such days or nights1 when compared with the others4 ,now if death be of such a nature1 ,i say that to die is gain2 for eternity is then only a single night4 ,but if death is the journey to another place1 and there1 as men say1 all the dead abide1 what good1 ,o my friends and judges1 can be greater than this8 ,if indeed when the pilgrim arrives in the world below1 he is delivered from the professors of justice in this world1 and finds the true judges who are said to give judgment there1 ,minos and ,rhadamanthus and ,aeacus and ,triptolemus1 and other sons of ,god who were righteous in their own life1 that pilgrimage will be worth making4 ,what would not a man give if he might converse with ,orpheus and ,musaeus and ,hesiod and ,homer8 ,nay1 if this be true1 let me die again and again4 ,i myself1 too1 shall have a wonderful interest in there meeting and conversing with ,palamedes1 and ,ajax the son of ,telamon1 and any other ancient hero who has suffered death through an unjust judgment2 and there will be no small pleasure1 as ,i think1 in comparing my own sufferings with theirs4 ,above all1 ,i shall then be able to continue my search into true and false knowledge2 as in this world1 so also in the next2 and ,i shall find out who is wise1 and who pretends to be wise1 and is not4 ,what would not a man give1 ,o judges1 to be able to examine the leader of the great ,trojan expedition2 or ,odysseus or ,sisyphus1 or numberless others1 men and women too6 ,what infinite delight would there be in conversing with them and asking them questions6 ,in another world they do not put a man to death for asking questions3 assuredly not4 ,for besides being happier than we are1 they will be immortal1 if what is said is true4 ,wherefore1 ,o judges1 be of good cheer about death1 and know of a certainty1 that no evil can happen to a good man1 either in life or after death4 ,he and his are not neglected by the gods2 nor has my own approaching end happened by mere chance4 ,but ,i see clearly that the time had arrived when it was better for me to die and be released from trouble2 wherefore the oracle gave no sign4 ,for which reason1 also1 ,i am not angry with my condemners1 or with my accusers2 they have done me no harm1 although they did not mean to do me any good2 and for this ,i may gently blame them4 ,still ,i have a favour to ask of them4 ,when my sons are grown up1 ,i would ask you1 ,o my friends1 to punish them2 and ,i would have you trouble them1 as ,i have troubled you1 if they seem to care about riches1 or anything1 more than about virtue2 or if they pretend to be something when they are really nothing1--then reprove them1 as ,i have reproved you1 for not caring about that for which they ought to care1 and thinking that they are something when they are really nothing4 ,and if you do this1 both ,i and my sons will have received justice at your hands4 ,the hour of departure has arrived1 and we go our ways--,i to die1 and you to live4 ,which is better ,god only knows4