,,la*es ,,or ,,c\rage ,by ,plato ,translat$ by ,b5jam9 ,j[ett ,,introduction4 ,lysima*us1 ! son ( ,ari/ides ! ,j1 & ,melesias1 ! son ( ! eld] ,?ucydides1 two ag$ m5 :o live toge!r1 are desir\s ( educat+ _! sons 9 ! be/ mann]4 ,_! own education1 z (t5 happ5s ) ! sons ( great m51 has be5 neglect$2 & !y are resolv$ t _! *ildr5 %all h m c>e tak5 ( !m1 ?an !y receiv$ !mselves at ! h&s ( _! fa!rs4 ,at _! reque/1 ,nicias & ,la*es h accompani$ !m to see a man nam$ ,/esilaus fight+ 9 heavy arm\r4 ,! two fa!rs ask ! two g5]als :at !y ?9k ( ?is exhibition1 & :e!r !y w\ld advise t _! sons %\ld acquire ! accompli%m5t4 ,nicias & ,la*es are q will+ to give _! op9ion2 b !y sugge/ t ,socrates %\ld be invit$ to take "p 9 ! consultation4 ,he is a /rang] to ,lysima*us1 b is aft]w>ds recognis$ z ! son ( 8 old fri5d ,sophroniscus1 ) :om he nev] _h a diff]5ce to ! h\r ( 8 dea?4 ,socrates is also kn[n to ,nicias1 to :om he _h introduc$ ! excell5t ,damon1 musician & sophi/1 z a tutor = 8 son1 & to ,la*es1 :o _h witness$ 8 h]oic behavi\r at ! battle ( ,delium 7comp>e ,symp474 ,socrates1 z he is y\ng] ?an ei!r ,nicias or ,la*es1 pref]s to wait until !y h deliv]$ _! op9ions1 :i* !y give 9 a *>act]i/ic mann]4 ,nicias1 ! tactician1 is v mu* 9 fav\r ( ! new art1 :i* he describes z ! gymna/ics ( w>--useful :5 ! ranks are =m$1 & /ill m useful :5 !y are brok52 creat+ a g5]al int]e/ 9 milit>y /udies1 & greatly add+ to ! appe>ance ( ! soldi] 9 ! field4 ,la*es1 ! blunt w>rior1 is ( op9ion t su* an art is n k1 & _c be ( any value1 because ! ,lac$aemonians1 ^? great ma/]s ( arms1 neglect x4 ,8 own exp]i5ce 9 actual s]vice has taught him t ^! pret5d]s are useless & ridicul\s4 ,?is man ,/esilaus has be5 se5 by him on bo>d %ip mak+ a v sorry exhibition ( himself4 ,! possession ( ! art w make ! c[>d ra%1 & subject ! c\rage\s1 if he *ance to make a slip1 to invidi\s rem>ks4 ,& n[ let ,socrates be tak5 into c\nsel4 ,z !y diff] he mu/ decide4 ,socrates w\ld r n decide ! "q by a plurality ( votes3 9 su* a s]i\s matt] z ! education ( a fri5d's *ildr51 he w\ld consult ! "o skill$ p]son :o has _h ma/]s1 & has works to %[ z evid5ces ( 8 skill4 ,?is is n himself2 = he has nev] be5 able to pay ! sophi/s = in/ruct+ him1 & has nev] _h ! wit to d or discov] any?+4 ,b ,nicias & ,la*es are old] & ri*] ?an he is3 !y h _h tea*]s1 & p]haps h made discov]ies2 & he w\ld h tru/$ !m entirely1 if !y _h n be5 diametrically oppos$4 ,lysima*us "h proposes to resign ! argum5t into ! h&s ( ! y\ng] "p ( ! company1 z he is old1 & has a bad memory4 ,he e>ne/ly reque/s ,socrates to rema92--9 ?is %[+1 z ,nicias says1 h[ little he kn[s ! man1 :o w c]ta9ly n g away until he has cross-exam9$ ! company ab\t _! pa/ lives4 ,nicias has (t5 submitt$ to ?is process2 & ,la*es is q will+ to le>n f ,socrates1 because 8 actions1 9 ! true ,dorian mode1 correspond to 8 words4 ,socrates proce$s3 ,we might ask :o are our tea*]s8 ,b a bett] & m ?or\gh way ( exam9+ ! "q w be to ask1 ',:at is ,virtue8'--or r1 to re/rict ! enquiry to t "p ( virtue :i* is conc]n$ ) ! use ( weapons--',:at is ,c\rage8' ,la*es ?9ks t he kn[s ?is3 7#a7 ',he is c\rage\s :o rema9s at 8 po/4' ,b "s nations fight fly+1 aft] ! mann] ( ,a5eas 9 ,hom]2 or z ! heavy-arm$ ,sp>tans also did at ! battle ( ,plataea4 7#b7 ,socrates wants a m g5]al def9ition1 n only ( milit>y c\rage1 b ( c\rage ( all sorts1 tri$ bo? amid pleasures & pa9s4 ,la*es replies t ?is univ]sal c\rage is endurance4 ,b c\rage is a good ?+1 & m]e endurance may be hurtful & injuri\s4 ,!re=e 7#c7 ! elem5t ( intellig5ce mu/ be add$4 ,b !n aga9 un9tellig5t endurance may (t5 be m c\rage\s ?an ! intellig5t1 ! bad ?an ! good4 ,h[ is ?is contradiction to be solv$8 ,socrates & ,la*es are n set 'to ! ,dorian mode' ( words & actions2 = _! words are all confusion1 al?\gh _! actions are c\rage\s4 ,/ill !y mu/ 'endure' 9 an argum5t ab\t endurance4 ,la*es is v will+1 & is q sure t he kn[s :at c\rage is1 if he c\ld only tell4 ,nicias is n[ appeal$ to2 & 9 reply he (f]s a def9ition :i* he has he>d f ,socrates himself1 to ! effect t 7#a7 ',c\rage is intellig5ce4' ,la*es d]ides ?is2 & ,socrates enquires1 ',:at sort ( intellig5ce8' to :i* ,nicias replies1 ',intellig5ce ( ?+s t]rible4' ',b e man kn[s ! ?+s to be dread$ 9 8 own art4' ',no !y d n4 ,!y may pr$ict results1 b _c tell :e!r !y are really t]rible2 only ! c\rage\s man c tell t4' ,la*es draws ! inf]5ce t ! c\rage\s man is ei!r a soo?say] or a god4 ,aga91 7#b7 9 ,nicias' way ( speak+1 ! t]m 'c\rage\s' mu/ be d5i$ to animals or *ildr51 because !y d n "k ! dang]4 ,aga9/ ?is inv]sion ( ! ord9>y use ( language ,la*es reclaims1 b is 9 "s degree mollifi$ by a complim5t to 8 own c\rage4 ,/ill1 he does n l to see an ,a!nian /atesman & g5]al desc5d+ to sophi/ries ( ?is sort4 ,socrates resumes ! argum5t4 ,c\rage has be5 def9$ to be intellig5ce or k ( ! t]rible2 & c\rage is n all virtue1 b only "o ( ! virtues4 ,! t]rible is 9 ! future1 & !re=e ! k ( ! t]rible is a k ( ! future4 ,b !re c be no k ( future good or evil sep>at$ f a k ( ! good & evil ( ! pa/ or pres5t2 t is to say1 ( all good & evil4 ,c\rage1 !re=e1 is ! k ( good & evil g5]ally4 ,b he :o has ! k ( good & evil g5]ally1 mu/ n only h c\rage1 b also temp]ance1 ju/ice1 & e o!r virtue4 ,?us1 a s+le virtue w\ld be ! same z all virtues 7comp>e ,protagoras74 ,& aft] all ! two g5]als1 & ,socrates1 ! h]o ( ,delium1 are /ill 9 ignorance ( ! nature ( c\rage4 ,!y mu/ g to s*ool aga91 boys1 old m5 & all4 ,"s po9ts ( resemblance1 & "s po9ts ( diff]5ce1 appe> 9 ! ,la*es :5 comp>$ ) ! ,*>mides & ,lysis4 ,!re is less ( poetical & simple beauty1 & m ( dramatic int]e/ & p[]4 ,!y are ri*] 9 ! ext]nals ( ! sc5e2 ! ,la*es has m play & developm5t ( "*4 ,9 ! ,lysis & ,*>mides ! y\?s are ! c5tral figures1 & frequ5t allusions are made to ! place ( meet+1 :i* is a palae/ra4 ,"h ! place ( meet+1 :i* is also a palae/ra1 is q =gott51 & ! boys play a subord9ate "p4 ,! seance is ( old & eld] m51 ( :om ,socrates is ! y\nge/4 ,fir/ is ! ag$ ,lysima*us1 :o may be comp>$ ) ,cephalus 9 ! ,republic1 &1 l him1 )draws f ! argum5t4 ,melesias1 :o is only 8 %ad[1 also subsides into sil5ce4 ,bo? ( !m1 by _! own confession1 h be5 ill-educat$1 z is fur!r %[n by ! circum/ance t ,lysima*us1 ! fri5d ( ,sophroniscus1 has nev] he>d ( ! fame ( ,socrates1 8 son2 !y belong to diff]5t circles4 ,9 ! ,m5o _! want ( education 9 all b ! arts ( rid+ & wre/l+ is adduc$ z a pro( t virtue _c be taught4 ,! recognition ( ,socrates by ,lysima*us is extremely graceful2 & 8 milit>y exploits naturally connect him ) ! two g5]als1 ( :om "o has witness$ !m4 ,! *>act]s ( ,nicias & ,la*es are indicat$ by _! op9ions on ! exhibition ( ! man fight+ 9 heavy arm\r4 ,! m enlight5$ ,nicias is q ready to accept ! new art1 :i* ,la*es treats ) ridicule1 seem+ to ?9k t ?is1 or any o!r milit>y "q1 may be settl$ by ask+1 ',:at d ! ,lac$aemonians say8' ,! "o is ! ?\ghtful g5]al1 will+ to avail himself ( any discov]y 9 ! art ( w> 7,ari/oph4 ,aves72 ! o!r is ! practical man1 :o relies on 8 own exp]i5ce1 & is ! enemy ( innovation2 he c act b _c speak1 & is apt to lose 8 temp]4 ,x is to be not$ t "o ( !m is suppos$ to be a he>] ( ,socrates2 ! o!r is only acqua9t$ ) 8 actions4 ,la*es is ! admir] ( ! ,dorian mode2 & into 8 m\? ! rem>k is put t !re are "s p]sons :o1 hav+ nev] be5 taught1 are bett] ?an ^? :o h4 ,l a novice 9 ! art ( disputation1 he is delight$ ) ! hits ( ,socrates2 & is dispos$ to be angry ) ! ref9em5ts ( ,nicias4 ,9 ! discussion ( ! ma9 !sis ( ! ,dialogue--',:at is ,c\rage8' ! antagonism ( ! two *>act]s is /ill m cle>ly br\ght out2 & 9 ?is1 z 9 ! prelim9>y "q1 ! tru? is p>t$ betwe5 !m4 ,gradually1 & n )\t difficulty1 ,la*es is made to pass on f ! m popul> to ! m philosophical2 x has nev] occurr$ to him t !re 0 any o!r c\rage ?an t ( ! soldi]2 & only by an ef=t ( ! m9d c he frame a g5]al notion at all4 ,no soon] has ?is g5]al notion be5 =m$ ?an x evanesces be=e ! dialectic ( ,socrates2 & ,nicias appe>s f ! o!r side ) ! ,socratic doctr9e1 t c\rage is k4 ,?is is expla9$ to mean k ( ?+s t]rible 9 ! future4 ,b ,socrates d5ies t ! k ( ! future is sep>able f t ( ! pa/ & pres5t2 9 o!r words1 true k is n t ( ! soo?say] b ( ! philosoph]4 ,& all k w ?us be equival5t to all virtue--a position :i* else:]e ,socrates is n unwill+ to admit1 b :i* w n assi/ u 9 di/+ui%+ ! nature ( c\rage4 ,9 ?is "p ( ! ,dialogue ! contra/ betwe5 ! mode ( cross-exam9ation :i* is practis$ by ,la*es & by ,socrates1 & also ! mann] 9 :i* ! def9ition ( ,la*es is made to approximate to t ( ,nicias1 are wor?y ( att5tion4 ,?us1 ) "s intimation ( ! connexion & unity ( virtue & k1 we arrive at no di/9ct result4 ,! two aspects ( c\rage are nev] h>moniz$4 ,! k :i* 9 ! ,protagoras is expla9$ z ! faculty ( e/imat+ pleasures & pa9s is "h lo/ 9 an unmean+ & transc5d5tal conception4 ,yet sev]al true intimations ( ! nature ( c\rage are all[$ to appe>3 7#a7 ,t c\rage is moral z well z physical3 7#b7 ,t true c\rage is insep>able f k1 & yet 7#c7 is bas$ on a natural in/9ct4 ,la*es exhibits "o aspect ( c\rage2 ,nicias ! o!r4 ,! p]fect image & h>mony ( bo? is only realiz$ 9 ,socrates himself4 ,! ,dialogue (f]s "o among _m examples ( ! fre$om ) :i* ,plato treats facts4 ,= ! sc5e mu/ be suppos$ to h occurr$ betwe5 ,b4,c4 #dbd1 ! ye> ( ! battle ( ,delium1 & ,b4,c4 #dah1 ! ye> ( ! battle ( ,mant9ea1 at :i* ,la*es fell4 ,b if ,socrates 0 m ?an sev5ty ye>s ( age at 8 trial 9 #cii 7see ,apology71 he c\ld n h be5 a "y man at any "t aft] ! battle ( ,delium4 ,,la*es1 ,,or ,,c\rage4 ,,p]sons ,,( ,,! ,,dialogue3 ,lysima*us1 son ( ,ari/ides4 ,melesias1 son ( ,?ucydides4 ,_! sons4 ,nicias1 ,la*es1 ,socrates4 ,,lysima*us3 ,y h se5 ! exhibition ( ! man fight+ 9 arm\r1 ,nicias & ,la*es1 b we did n tell y at ! "t ! reason :y my fri5d ,melesias & ,i ask$ y to g ) u & see him4 ,i ?9k t we may z well confess :at ?is 01 = we c]ta9ly ought n to h any res]ve ) y4 ,! reason 01 t we 7 int5d+ to ask y\r advice4 ,"s laugh at ! v notion ( advis+ o!rs1 & :5 !y are ask$ w n say :at !y ?9k4 ,!y guess at ! wi%es ( ! p]son :o asks !m1 & answ] accord+ to 81 & n accord+ to _! own1 op9ion4 ,b z we "k t y are good judges1 & w say exactly :at y ?9k1 we h tak5 y into our c\nsels4 ,! matt] ab\t :i* ,i am mak+ all ?is preface is z foll[s3 ,melesias & ,i h two sons2 t is 8 son1 & he is nam$ ,?ucydides1 aft] 8 gr&fa!r2 & ?is is m9e1 :o is also call$ aft] 8 gr&fa!r1 ,ari/ides4 ,n[1 we are resolv$ to take ! greate/ c>e ( ! y\?s1 & n to let !m run ab\t z !y l1 :i* is too (t5 ! way ) ! "y1 :5 !y are no long] *ildr51 b to beg9 at once & d ! utmo/ t we c = !m4 ,& kn[+ y to h sons ( y\r own1 we ?\ght t y 7 mo/ likely to h att5d$ to _! tra9+ & improvem5t1 &1 if p]*ance y h n att5d$ to !m1 we may rem9d y t y ought to h done s1 & w\ld invite y to assi/ u 9 ! fulfilm5t ( a common duty4 ,i w tell y1 ,nicias & ,la*es1 ev5 at ! risk ( be+ t$i\s1 h[ we came to ?9k ( ?is4 ,melesias & ,i live toge!r1 & our sons live ) u2 & n[1 z ,i 0 say+ at fir/1 we are go+ to confess to y4 ,bo? ( u (t5 talk to ! lads ab\t ! _m noble de$s :i* our own fa!rs did 9 w> & peace--9 ! managem5t ( ! allies1 & 9 ! adm9i/ration ( ! city2 b nei!r ( u has any de$s ( 8 own :i* he c %[4 ,! tru? is t we are a%am$ ( ?is contra/ be+ se5 by !m1 & we blame our fa!rs = lett+ u be spoil$ 9 ! days ( our y\?1 :ile !y 7 occupi$ ) ! conc]ns ( o!rs2 & we urge all ?is ^u ! lads1 po9t+ out to !m t !y w n gr[ up to hon\r if !y are rebelli\s & take no pa9s ab\t !mselves2 b t if !y take pa9s !y may1 p]haps1 become wor?y ( ! names :i* !y be>4 ,!y1 on _! "p1 promise to comply ) our wi%es2 & our c>e is to discov] :at /udies or pursuits are likely to be mo/ improv+ to !m4 ,"s "o comm5d$ to u ! art ( fight+ 9 arm\r1 :i* he ?\ght an excell5t accompli%m5t = a "y man to le>n2 & he prais$ ! man ^: exhibition y h se51 & told u to g & see him4 ,& we det]m9$ t we w\ld g1 & get y to accompany u2 & we 7 int5d+ at ! same "t1 if y did n object1 to take c\nsel ) y ab\t ! education ( our sons4 ,t is ! matt] :i* we want$ to talk ov] ) y2 & we hope t y w give u y\r op9ion ab\t ?is art ( fight+ 9 arm\r1 & ab\t any o!r /udies or pursuits :i* may or may n be desirable = a "y man to le>n4 ,please to say :e!r y agree to our proposal4 ,,nicias3 ,z f> z ,i am conc]n$1 ,lysima*us & ,melesias1 ,i applaud y\r purpose1 & w gladly assi/ y2 & ,i believe t y1 ,la*es1 w be equally glad4 ,,la*es3 ,c]ta9ly1 ,nicias2 & ,i q approve ( ! rem>k :i* ,lysima*us made ab\t 8 own fa!r & ! fa!r ( ,melesias1 & :i* is applicable1 n only to !m1 b to u1 & to e "o :o is occupi$ ) public affairs4 ,z he says1 su* p]sons are too apt to be neglig5t & c>eless ( _! own *ildr5 & _! private conc]ns4 ,!re is mu* tru? 9 t rem>k ( y\rs1 ,lysima*us4 ,b :y1 in/ead ( consult+ u1 d y n consult our fri5d ,socrates ab\t ! education ( ! y\?s8 ,he is ( ! same deme ) y1 & is always pass+ 8 "t 9 places :]e ! y\? h any noble /udy or pursuit1 su* z y are enquir+ aft]4 ,,lysima*us3 ,:y1 ,la*es1 has ,socrates ev] att5d$ to matt]s ( ?is sort8 ,,la*es3 ,c]ta9ly1 ,lysima*us4 ,,nicias3 ,t ,i h ! means ( kn[+ z well z ,la*es2 = q lately he suppli$ me ) a tea*] ( music = my sons1--,damon1 ! disciple ( ,aga?ocles1 :o is a mo/ accompli%$ man 9 e way1 z well z a musician1 & a companion ( ine/imable value = "y m5 at _! age4 ,,lysima*us3 ,^? :o h rea*$ my "t ( life1 ,socrates & ,nicias & ,la*es1 fall out ( acqua9tance ) ! "y1 because !y are g5]ally deta9$ at home by old age2 b y1 ,o son ( ,sophroniscus1 %\ld let y\r fell[ demesman h ! b5efit ( any advice :i* y are able to give4 ,moreov] ,i h a claim ^u y z an old fri5d ( y\r fa!r2 = ,i & he 7 always companions & fri5ds1 & to ! h\r ( 8 dea? !re nev] 0 a diff]5ce betwe5 u2 & n[ x comes back to me1 at ! m5tion ( y\r "n1 t ,i h he>d ^! lads talk+ to "o ano!r at home1 & (t5 speak+ ( ,socrates 9 t]ms ( ! highe/ praise2 b ,i h nev] ?\ght to ask !m :e!r ! son ( ,sophroniscus 0 ! p]son :om !y meant4 ,tell me1 my boys1 :e!r ?is is ! ,socrates ( :om y h (t5 spok58 ,,son3 ,c]ta9ly1 fa!r1 ?is is he4 ,,lysima*us3 ,i am delight$ to he>1 ,socrates1 t y ma9ta9 ! "n ( y\r fa!r1 :o 0 a mo/ excell5t man2 & ,i fur!r rejoice at ! prospect ( our family ties be+ r5ew$4 ,,la*es3 ,inde$1 ,lysima*us1 y ought n to give him up2 = ,i c assure y t ,i h se5 him ma9ta9+1 n only 8 fa!r's1 b also 8 c\ntry's "n4 ,he 0 my companion 9 ! retreat f ,delium1 & ,i c tell y t if o!rs _h only be5 l him1 ! hon\r ( our c\ntry w\ld h be5 upheld1 & ! great defeat w\ld nev] h occurr$4 ,,lysima*us3 ,t is v high praise :i* is accord$ to y1 ,socrates1 by fai?ful witnesses & = actions l ^? :i* !y praise4 ,let me tell y ! pleasure :i* ,i feel 9 he>+ ( y\r fame2 & ,i hope t y w reg>d me z "o ( y\r w>me/ fri5ds4 ,y ought to h visit$ u long ago1 & made y\rself at home ) u2 b n[1 f ?is day =w>d1 z we h at la/ f\nd "o ano!r out1 d z ,i say--come & make acqua9tance ) me1 & ) ^! "y m51 t ,i may cont9ue y\r fri5d1 z ,i 0 y\r fa!r's4 ,i %all expect y to d s1 & %all v5ture at "s future "t to rem9d y ( y\r duty4 ,b :at say y ( ! matt] ( :i* we 7 beg9n+ to speak--! art ( fight+ 9 arm\r8 ,is t a practice 9 :i* ! lads may be advantage\sly in/ruct$8 ,,socrates3 ,i w endeav\r to advise y1 ,lysima*us1 z f> z ,i c 9 ?is matt]1 & also 9 e way w comply ) y\r wi%es2 b z ,i am y\ng] & n s exp]i5c$1 ,i ?9k t ,i ought c]ta9ly to he> fir/ :at my eld]s h to say1 & to le>n ( !m1 & if ,i h any?+ to add1 !n ,i may v5ture to give my op9ion to !m z well z to y4 ,suppose1 ,nicias1 t "o or o!r ( y beg94 ,,nicias3 ,i h no objection1 ,socrates2 & my op9ion is t ! acquirem5t ( ?is art is 9 _m ways useful to "y m54 ,x is an advantage to !m t among ! fav\rite amusem5ts ( _! leisure h\rs !y %\ld h "o :i* t5ds to improve & n to injure _! bodily heal?4 ,no gymna/ics c\ld be bett] or h>d] ex]cise2 & ?is1 & ! art ( rid+1 are ( all arts mo/ befitt+ to a freeman2 = !y only :o are ?us tra9$ 9 ! use ( arms are ! a?letes ( our milit>y pr(ession1 tra9$ 9 t on :i* ! conflict turns4 ,moreov] 9 actual battle1 :5 y h to fight 9 a l9e ) a numb] ( o!rs1 su* an acquirem5t w be ( "s use1 & w be ( ! greate/ :5ev] ! ranks are brok5 & y h to fight s+ly1 ei!r 9 pursuit1 :5 y are attack+ "s "o :o is def5d+ himself1 or 9 flight1 :5 y h to def5d y\rself aga9/ an assailant4 ,c]ta9ly he :o possess$ ! art c\ld n meet ) any h>m at ! h&s ( a s+le p]son1 or p]haps ( sev]al2 & 9 any case he w\ld h a great advantage4 ,fur!r1 ?is sort ( skill incl9es a man to ! love ( o!r noble lessons2 = e man :o has le>n$ h[ to fight 9 arm\r w desire to le>n ! prop] arrangem5t ( an army1 :i* is ! sequel ( ! lesson3 & :5 he has le>n$ ?is1 & 8 ambition is once fir$1 he w g on to le>n ! complete art ( ! g5]al4 ,!re is no difficulty 9 see+ t ! k & practice ( o!r milit>y arts w be hon\rable & valuable to a man2 & ?is lesson may be ! beg9n+ ( !m4 ,let me add a fur!r advantage1 :i* is by no means a slight "o1--t ?is sci5ce w make any man a great deal m valiant & self-possess$ 9 ! field4 ,& ,i w n disda9 to m5tion1 :at by "s may be ?\ght to be a small matt]2--he w make a bett] appe>ance at ! "r "t2 t is to say1 at ! "t :5 8 appe>ance w /rike t]ror into 8 enemies4 ,my op9ion !n1 ,lysima*us1 is1 z ,i say1 t ! y\?s %\ld be in/ruct$ 9 ?is art1 & = ! reasons :i* ,i h giv54 ,b ,la*es may take a diff]5t view2 & ,i %all be v glad to he> :at he has to say4 ,,la*es3 ,i %\ld n l to ma9ta91 ,nicias1 t any k9d ( k is n to be le>n$2 = all k appe>s to be a good3 & if1 z ,nicias & z ! tea*]s ( ! art affirm1 ?is use ( arms is really a species ( k1 !n x ought to be le>n$2 b if n1 & if ^? :o pr(ess to tea* x are deceiv]s only2 or if x be k1 b n ( a valuable sort1 !n :at is ! use ( le>n+ x8 ,i say ?is1 because ,i ?9k t if x _h be5 really valuable1 ! ,lac$aemonians1 ^: :ole life is pass$ 9 f9d+ out & practis+ ! arts :i* give !m an advantage ov] o!r nations 9 w>1 w\ld h discov]$ ?is "o4 ,& ev5 if !y _h n1 /ill ^! pr(essors ( ! art w\ld c]ta9ly n h fail$ to discov] t ( all ! ,hell5es ! ,lac$aemonians h ! greate/ int]e/ 9 su* matt]s1 & t a ma/] ( ! art :o 0 hon\r$ among !m w\ld be sure to make 8 =tune among o!r nations1 j z a tragic poet w\ld :o is hon\r$ among ourselves2 :i* is ! reason :y he :o fancies t he c write a trag$y does n g ab\t it9]at+ 9 ! neighb\r+ /ates1 b ru%es hi!r /raight1 & exhibits at ,a!ns2 & ?is is natural4 ,:]eas ,i p]ceive t ^! fight]s 9 arm\r reg>d ,lac$aemon z a sacr$ inviolable t]ritory1 :i* !y d n t\* ) ! po9t ( _! foot2 b !y make a circuit ( ! neighb\r+ /ates1 & w\ld r exhibit to any o!rs ?an to ! ,sp>tans2 & p>ticul>ly to ^? :o w\ld !mselves ackn[l$ge t !y are by no means fir/-rate 9 ! arts ( w>4 ,fur!r1 ,lysima*us1 ,i h enc\nt]$ a good _m ( ^! g5tlem5 9 actual s]vice1 & h tak5 _! measure1 :i* ,i c give y at once2 = none ( ^! ma/]s ( f5ce h ev] be5 di/+ui%$ 9 w>1--!re has be5 a sort ( fatality ab\t !m2 :ile 9 all o!r arts ! m5 ( note h be5 always ^? :o h practis$ ! art1 !y appe> to be a mo/ un=tunate exception4 ,= example1 ?is v ,/esilaus1 :om y & ,i h j witness$ exhibit+ 9 all t cr[d & mak+ su* great pr(essions ( 8 p[]s1 ,i h se5 at ano!r "t mak+1 9 sob] tru?1 an involunt>y exhibition ( himself1 :i* 0 a f> bett] spectacle4 ,he 0 a m>9e on bo>d a %ip :i* /ruck a transport vessel1 & 0 arm$ ) a weapon1 half spe>1 half scy!2 ! s+ul>ity ( ?is weapon 0 wor?y ( ! s+ul>ity ( ! man4 ,to make a long /ory %ort1 ,i w only tell y :at happ5$ to ?is notable inv5tion ( ! scy! spe>4 ,he 0 fight+1 & ! scy! 0 caught 9 ! rigg+ ( ! o!r %ip1 & /uck fa/2 & he tugg$1 b 0 unable to get 8 weapon free4 ,! two %ips 7 pass+ "o ano!r4 ,he fir/ ran along 8 own %ip hold+ on to ! spe>2 b z ! o!r %ip pass$ by & drew him aft] z he 0 hold+ on1 he let ! spe> slip ?r\gh 8 h& until he reta9$ only ! end ( ! h&le4 ,! p 9 ! transport clapp$ _! h&s1 & laugh$ at 8 ridicul\s figure2 & :5 "s "o ?rew a /one1 :i* fell on ! deck at 8 feet1 & he quitt$ 8 hold ( ! scy!-spe>1 ! crew ( 8 own trireme also bur/ out laugh+2 !y c\ld n refra9 :5 !y beheld ! weapon wav+ 9 ! air1 susp5d$ f ! transport4 ,n[ ,i d n d5y t !re may be some?+ 9 su* an art1 z ,nicias ass]ts1 b ,i tell y my exp]i5ce2 &1 z ,i said at fir/1 :e!r ?is be an art ( :i* ! advantage is s slight1 or n an art at all1 b only an imposition1 9 ei!r case su* an acquirem5t is n wor? hav+4 ,= my op9ion is1 t if ! pr(essor ( ?is art be a c[>d1 he w be likely to become ra%1 & 8 "* w be only m notori\s2 or if he be brave1 & fail ev] s little1 o!r m5 w be on ! wat*1 & he w be greatly traduc$2 = !re is a jeal\sy ( su* pret5d]s2 & unless a man be pre-em95t 9 val\r1 he _c help be+ ridicul\s1 if he says t he has ?is sort ( skill4 ,su* is my judgm5t1 ,lysima*us1 ( ! desirabl5ess ( ?is art2 b1 z ,i said at fir/1 ask ,socrates1 & d n let him g until he has giv5 y 8 op9ion ( ! matt]4 ,,lysima*us3 ,i am go+ to ask ?is fav\r ( y1 ,socrates2 z is ! m necess>y because ! two c\ncillors disagree1 & "s "o is 9 a mann] /ill ne$$ :o w decide betwe5 !m4 ,_h !y agre$1 no arbit] w\ld h be5 requir$4 ,b z ,la*es has vot$ "o way & ,nicias ano!r1 ,i %\ld l to he> ) :i* ( our two fri5ds y agree4 ,,socrates3 ,:at1 ,lysima*us1 are y go+ to accept ! op9ion ( ! majority8 ,,lysima*us3 ,:y1 yes1 ,socrates2 :at else am ,i to d8 ,,socrates3 ,& w\ld y d s too1 ,melesias8 ,if y 7 delib]at+ ab\t ! gymna/ic tra9+ ( y\r son1 w\ld y foll[ ! advice ( ! majority ( u1 or ! op9ion ( ! "o :o _h be5 tra9$ & ex]cis$ "u a skilful ma/]8 ,,melesias3 ,! latt]1 ,socrates2 z w\ld surely be reasonable4 ,,socrates3 ,8 "o vote w\ld be wor? m ?an ! vote ( all u f\r8 ,,melesias3 ,c]ta9ly4 ,,socrates3 ,& = ?is reason1 z ,i imag9e1--because a good decision is bas$ on k & n on numb]s8 ,,melesias3 ,to be sure4 ,,socrates3 ,mu/ we n !n fir/ ( all ask1 :e!r !re is any "o ( u :o has k ( t ab\t :i* we are delib]at+8 ,if !re is1 let u take 8 advice1 ?\gh he be "o only1 & n m9d ! re/2 if !re is n1 let u seek fur!r c\nsel4 ,is ?is a slight matt] ab\t :i* y & ,lysima*us are delib]at+8 ,are y n risk+ ! greate/ ( y\r possessions8 ,= *ildr5 are y\r ri*es2 & ^u _! turn+ out well or ill dep5ds ! :ole ord] ( _! fa!r's h\se4 ,,melesias3 ,t is true4 ,,socrates3 ,great c>e1 !n1 is requir$ 9 ?is matt]8 ,,melesias3 ,c]ta9ly4 ,,socrates3 ,suppose1 z ,i 0 j n[ say+1 t we 7 consid]+1 or want+ to consid]1 :o 0 ! be/ tra9]4 ,%\ld we n select him :o knew & _h practis$ ! art1 & _h ! be/ tea*]s8 ,,melesias3 ,i ?9k t we %\ld4 ,,socrates3 ,b w\ld !re n arise a prior "q ab\t ! nature ( ! art ( :i* we want to f9d ! ma/]s8 ,,melesias3 ,i d n und]/&4 ,,socrates3 ,let me try to make my mean+ pla9] !n4 ,i d n ?9k t we h z yet decid$ :at t is ab\t :i* we are consult+1 :5 we ask :i* ( u is or is n skill$ 9 ! art1 & has or has n _h a tea*] ( ! art4 ,,nicias3 ,:y1 ,socrates1 is n ! "q :e!r "y m5 ought or ought n to le>n ! art ( fight+ 9 arm\r8 ,,socrates3 ,yes1 ,nicias2 b !re is also a prior "q1 :i* ,i may illu/rate 9 ?is way3 ,:5 a p]son consid]s ab\t apply+ a m$ic9e to ! eyes1 w\ld y say t he is consult+ ab\t ! m$ic9e or ab\t ! eyes8 ,,nicias3 ,ab\t ! eyes4 ,,socrates3 ,& :5 he consid]s :e!r he %all set a bridle on a horse & at :at "t1 he is ?9k+ ( ! horse & n ( ! bridle8 ,,nicias3 ,true4 ,,socrates3 ,& 9 a ^w1 :5 he consid]s any?+ = ! sake ( ano!r ?+1 he ?9ks ( ! end & n ( ! means8 ,,nicias3 ,c]ta9ly4 ,,socrates3 ,& :5 y call 9 an advis]1 y %\ld see :e!r he too is skilful 9 ! accompli%m5t ( ! end :i* y h 9 view8 ,,nicias3 ,mo/ true4 ,,socrates3 ,& at pres5t we h 9 view "s k1 ( :i* ! end is ! s\l ( y\?8 ,,nicias3 ,yes4 ,,socrates3 ,& we are enquir+1 ,:i* ( u is skilful or successful 9 ! treatm5t ( ! s\l1 & :i* ( u has _h good tea*]s8 ,,la*es3 ,well b1 ,socrates2 did y nev] obs]ve t "s p]sons1 :o h _h no tea*]s1 are m skilful ?an ^? :o h1 9 "s ?+s8 ,,socrates3 ,yes1 ,la*es1 ,i h obs]v$ t2 b y w\ld n be v will+ to tru/ !m if !y only pr(ess$ to be ma/]s ( _! art1 unless !y c\ld %[ "s pro( ( _! skill or excell5ce 9 "o or m works4 ,,la*es3 ,t is true4 ,,socrates3 ,& !re=e1 ,la*es & ,nicias1 z ,lysima*us & ,melesias1 9 _! anxiety to improve ! m9ds ( _! sons1 h ask$ our advice ab\t !m1 we too %\ld tell !m :o our tea*]s 71 if we say t we h _h any1 & prove !m to be 9 ! fir/ place m5 ( m]it & exp]i5c$ tra9]s ( ! m9ds ( y\? & also to h be5 really our tea*]s4 ,or if any ( u says t he has no tea*]1 b t he has works ( 8 own to %[2 !n he %\ld po9t out to !m :at ,a!nians or /rang]s1 bond or free1 he is g5]ally ackn[l$g$ to h improv$4 ,b if he c %[ nei!r tea*]s nor works1 !n he %\ld tell !m to look out = o!rs2 & n run ! risk ( spoil+ ! *ildr5 ( fri5ds1 & !reby incurr+ ! mo/ =midable accusation :i* c be br\ght aga9/ any "o by ^? ne>e/ to him4 ,z = myself1 ,lysima*us & ,melesias1 ,i am ! fir/ to confess t ,i h nev] _h a tea*] ( ! art ( virtue2 al?\gh ,i h always f my e>lie/ y\? desir$ to h "o4 ,b ,i am too poor to give money to ! ,sophi/s1 :o are ! only pr(essors ( moral improvem5t2 & to ?is day ,i h nev] be5 able to discov] ! art myself1 ?\gh ,i %\ld n be surpris$ if ,nicias or ,la*es may h discov]$ or le>n$ x2 = !y are f> weal?i] ?an ,i am1 & may !re=e h le>nt ( o!rs4 ,& !y are old] too2 s t !y h _h m "t to make ! discov]y4 ,& ,i really believe t !y are able to educate a man2 = unless !y _h be5 confid5t 9 _! own k1 !y w\ld nev] h spok5 ?us decid$ly ( ! pursuits :i* are advantage\s or hurtful to a "y man4 ,i repose confid5ce 9 bo? ( !m2 b ,i am surpris$ to f9d t !y diff] f "o ano!r4 ,& !re=e1 ,lysima*us1 z ,la*es sugge/$ t y %\ld deta9 me1 & n let me g until ,i answ]$1 ,i 9 turn e>ne/ly besee* & advise y to deta9 ,la*es & ,nicias1 & "q !m4 ,i w\ld h y say to !m3 ,socrates av]s t he has no k ( ! matt]--he is unable to decide :i* ( y speaks truly2 nei!r discov]] nor /ud5t is he ( any?+ ( ! k9d4 ,b y1 ,la*es & ,nicias1 %\ld ea* ( y tell u :o is ! mo/ skilful educator :om y h ev] kn[n2 & :e!r y inv5t$ ! art y\rselves1 or le>n$ ( ano!r2 & if y le>n$1 :o 7 y\r respective tea*]s1 & :o 7 _! bro!rs 9 ! art2 & !n1 if y are too mu* occupi$ 9 politics to tea* u y\rselves1 let u g to !m1 & pres5t !m ) gifts1 or make int]e/ ) !m1 or bo?1 9 ! hope t !y may be induc$ to take *>ge ( our *ildr5 & ( y\rs2 & !n !y w n gr[ up inf]ior1 & disgrace _! ance/ors4 ,b if y are y\rselves orig9al discov]]s 9 t field1 give u "s pro( ( y\r skill4 ,:o are !y :o1 hav+ be5 inf]ior p]sons1 h become "u y\r c>e good & noble8 ,= if ?is is y\r fir/ attempt at education1 !re is a dang] t y may be try+ ! exp]im5t1 n on ! 'vile corpus' ( a ,c>ian slave1 b on y\r own sons1 or ! sons ( y\r fri5d1 &1 z ! prov]b says1 'break ! l>ge vessel 9 le>n+ to make pots4' ,tell u !n1 :at qualities y claim or d n claim4 ,make !m tell y t1 ,lysima*us1 & d n let !m (f4 ,,lysima*us3 ,i v mu* approve ( ! words ( ,socrates1 my fri5ds2 b y1 ,nicias & ,la*es1 mu/ det]m9e :e!r y w be que/ion$1 & give an explanation ab\t matt]s ( ?is sort4 ,assur$ly1 ,i & ,melesias w\ld be greatly pleas$ to he> y answ] ! que/ions :i* ,socrates asks1 if y w3 = ,i began by say+ t we took y into our c\nsels because we ?\ght t y w\ld h att5d$ to ! subject1 especially z y h *ildr5 :o1 l our own1 are ne>ly ( an age to be educat$4 ,well1 !n1 if y h no objection1 suppose t y take ,socrates into p>tn]%ip2 & d y & he ask & answ] "o ano!r's que/ions3 =1 z he has well said1 we are delib]at+ ab\t ! mo/ important ( our conc]ns4 ,i hope t y w see fit to comply ) our reque/4 ,,nicias3 ,i see v cle>ly1 ,lysima*us1 t y h only kn[n ,socrates' fa!r1 & h no acqua9tance ) ,socrates himself3 at lea/1 y c only h kn[n him :5 he 0 a *ild1 & may h met him among 8 fell[-w>dsm51 9 company ) 8 fa!r1 at a sacrifice1 or at "s o!r ga!r+4 ,y cle>ly %[ t y h nev] kn[n him s9ce he arriv$ at manhood4 ,,lysima*us3 ,:y d y say t1 ,nicias8 ,,nicias3 ,because y seem n to be aw>e t any "o :o has an intellectual aff9ity to ,socrates & ent]s into conv]sation ) him is liable to be drawn into an argum5t2 & :atev] subject he may />t1 he w be cont9ually c>ri$ r\nd & r\nd by him1 until at la/ he f9ds t he has to give an acc\nt bo? ( 8 pres5t & pa/ life2 & :5 he is once entangl$1 ,socrates w n let him g until he has completely & ?or\ghly sift$ him4 ,n[ ,i am us$ to 8 ways2 & ,i "k t he w c]ta9ly d z ,i say1 & also t ,i myself %all be ! suff]]2 = ,i am fond ( 8 conv]sation1 ,lysima*us4 ,& ,i ?9k t !re is no h>m 9 be+ rem9d$ ( any wrong ?+ :i* we are1 or h be51 do+3 he :o does n fly f repro( w be sure to take m he$ ( 8 aft]-life2 z ,solon says1 he w wi% & desire to be le>n+ s long z he lives1 & w n ?9k t old age ( itself br+s wisdom4 ,to me1 to be cross-exam9$ by ,socrates is nei!r unusual nor unpleasant2 inde$1 ,i knew all along t :]e ,socrates 01 ! argum5t w\ld soon pass f our sons to ourselves2 & !re=e1 ,i say t = my "p1 ,i am q will+ to disc\rse ) ,socrates 9 8 own mann]2 b y _h bett] ask our fri5d ,la*es :at 8 feel+ may be4 ,,la*es3 ,i h b "o feel+1 ,nicias1 or 7%all ,i say87 two feel+s1 ab\t discussions4 ,"s w\ld ?9k t ,i am a lov]1 & to o!rs ,i may seem to be a hat] ( disc\rse2 = :5 ,i he> a man disc\rs+ ( virtue1 or ( any sort ( wisdom1 :o is a true man & wor?y ( 8 !me1 ,i am delight$ beyond measure3 & ,i comp>e ! man & 8 words1 & note ! h>mony & correspond5ce ( !m4 ,& su* an "o ,i deem to be ! true musician1 attun$ to a fair] h>mony ?an t ( ! lyre1 or any pleasant in/rum5t ( music2 = truly he has 9 8 own life a h>mony ( words & de$s arrang$1 n 9 ! ,ionian1 or 9 ! ,phrygian mode1 nor yet 9 ! ,lydian1 b 9 ! true ,hell5ic mode1 :i* is ! ,dorian1 & no o!r4 ,su* an "o makes me m]ry ) ! s\nd ( 8 voice2 & :5 ,i he> him ,i am ?\ght to be a lov] ( disc\rse2 s eag] am ,i 9 dr9k+ 9 8 words4 ,b a man ^: actions d n agree ) 8 words is an annoyance to me2 & ! bett] he speaks ! m ,i hate him1 & !n ,i seem to be a hat] ( disc\rse4 ,z to ,socrates1 ,i h no k ( 8 words1 b ( old1 z w\ld seem1 ,i h _h exp]i5ce ( 8 de$s2 & 8 de$s %[ t free & noble s5tim5ts are natural to him4 ,& if 8 words accord1 !n ,i am ( "o m9d ) him1 & %all be delight$ to be int]rogat$ by a man su* z he is1 & %all n be annoy$ at hav+ to le>n ( him3 = ,i too agree ) ,solon1 't ,i w\ld fa9 gr[ old1 le>n+ _m ?+s4' ,b ,i mu/ be all[$ to add '( ! good only4' ,socrates mu/ be will+ to all[ t he is a good tea*]1 or ,i %all be a dull & uncong5ial pupil3 b t ! tea*] is y\ng]1 or n z yet 9 repute--any?+ ( t sort is ( no acc\nt ) me4 ,& !re=e1 ,socrates1 ,i give y notice t y may tea* & confute me z mu* z ev] y l1 & also le>n ( me any?+ :i* ,i "k4 ,s high is ! op9ion :i* ,i h ent]ta9$ ( y ev] s9ce ! day on :i* y 7 my companion 9 dang]1 & gave a pro( ( y\r val\r su* z only ! man ( m]it c give4 ,!re=e1 say :atev] y l1 & d n m9d ab\t ! diff]5ce ( our ages4 ,,socrates3 ,i _c say t ei!r ( y %[ any reluctance to take c\nsel & advise ) me4 ,,lysima*us3 ,b ?is is our prop] bus9ess2 & y\rs z well z ours1 = ,i reckon y z "o ( u4 ,please !n to take my place1 & f9d out f ,nicias & ,la*es :at we want to "k1 = ! sake ( ! y\?s1 & talk & consult ) !m3 = ,i am old1 & my memory is bad2 & ,i d n rememb] ! que/ions :i* ,i am go+ to ask1 or ! answ]s to !m2 & if !re is any int]ruption ,i am q lo/4 ,i w !re=e beg ( y to c>ry on ! propos$ discussion by y\r selves2 & ,i w li/51 & ,melesias & ,i w act ^u y\r conclusions4 ,,socrates3 ,let u1 ,nicias & ,la*es1 comply ) ! reque/ ( ,lysima*us & ,melesias4 ,!re w be no h>m 9 ask+ ourselves ! "q :i* 0 fir/ propos$ to u3 ',:o h be5 our own in/ructors 9 ?is sort ( tra9+1 & :om h we made bett]8' ,b ! o!r mode ( c>ry+ on ! enquiry w br+ u equally to ! same po9t1 & w be m l proce$+ f fir/ pr9ciples4 ,= if we knew t ! addition ( some?+ w\ld improve "s o!r ?+1 & 7 able to make ! addition1 !n1 cle>ly1 we mu/ "k h[ t ab\t :i* we are advis+ may be be/ & mo/ easily atta9$4 ,p]haps y d n und]/& :at ,i mean4 ,!n let me make my mean+ pla9] 9 ?is way4 ,suppose we knew t ! addition ( sight makes bett] ! eyes :i* possess ?is gift1 & also 7 able to imp>t sight to ! eyes1 !n1 cle>ly1 we %\ld "k ! nature ( sight1 & %\ld be able to advise h[ ?is gift ( sight may be be/ & mo/ easily atta9$2 b if we knew nei!r :at sight is1 nor :at he>+ is1 we %\ld n be v good m$ical advis]s ab\t ! eyes or ! e>s1 or ab\t ! be/ mode ( giv+ sight & he>+ to !m4 ,,la*es3 ,t is true1 ,socrates4 ,,socrates3 ,& are n our two fri5ds1 ,la*es1 at ?is v mom5t invit+ u to consid] 9 :at way ! gift ( virtue may be imp>t$ to _! sons = ! improvem5t ( _! m9ds8 ,,la*es3 ,v true4 ,,socrates3 ,!n mu/ we n fir/ "k ! nature ( virtue8 ,= h[ c we advise any "o ab\t ! be/ mode ( atta9+ some?+ ( :i* we are :olly ignorant8 ,,la*es3 ,i d n ?9k t we c1 ,socrates4 ,,socrates3 ,!n1 ,la*es1 we may presume t we "k ! nature ( virtue8 ,,la*es3 ,yes4 ,,socrates3 ,& t :i* we "k we mu/ surely be able to tell8 ,,la*es3 ,c]ta9ly4 ,,socrates3 ,i w\ld n h u beg91 my fri5d1 ) enquir+ ab\t ! :ole ( virtue2 = t may be m ?an we c accompli%2 let u fir/ consid] :e!r we h a suffici5t k ( a "p2 ! enquiry w ?us probably be made easi] to u4 ,,la*es3 ,let u d z y say1 ,socrates4 ,,socrates3 ,!n :i* ( ! p>ts ( virtue %all we select8 ,mu/ we n select t to :i* ! art ( fight+ 9 arm\r is suppos$ to conduce8 ,& is n t g5]ally ?\ght to be c\rage8 ,,la*es3 ,yes1 c]ta9ly4 ,,socrates3 ,!n1 ,la*es1 suppose t we fir/ set ab\t det]m9+ ! nature ( c\rage1 & 9 ! second place proce$ to enquire h[ ! "y m5 may atta9 ?is quality by ! help ( /udies & pursuits4 ,tell me1 if y c1 :at is c\rage4 ,,la*es3 ,inde$1 ,socrates1 ,i see no difficulty 9 answ]+2 he is a man ( c\rage :o does n run away1 b rema9s at 8 po/ & fights aga9/ ! enemy2 !re c be no mi/ake ab\t t4 ,,socrates3 ,v good1 ,la*es2 & yet ,i fe> t ,i did n express myself cle>ly2 & !re=e y h answ]$ n ! "q :i* ,i int5d$ to ask1 b ano!r4 ,,la*es3 ,:at d y mean1 ,socrates8 ,,socrates3 ,i w endeav\r to expla92 y w\ld call a man c\rage\s :o rema9s at 8 po/1 & fights ) ! enemy8 ,,la*es3 ,c]ta9ly ,i %\ld4 ,,socrates3 ,& s %\ld ,i2 b :at w\ld y say ( ano!r man1 :o fights fly+1 in/ead ( rema9+8 ,,la*es3 ,h[ fly+8 ,,socrates3 ,:y1 z ! ,scy?ians are said to fight1 fly+ z well z pursu+2 & z ,hom] says 9 praise ( ! horses ( ,a5eas1 t !y knew 'h[ to pursue1 & fly quickly hi!r & ?i!r'2 & he passes an encomium on ,a5eas himself1 z hav+ a k ( fe> or flight1 & calls him 'an au?or ( fe> or flight4' ,,la*es3 ,yes1 ,socrates1 & !re ,hom] is "r3 = he 0 speak+ ( *>iots1 z y 7 speak+ ( ! ,scy?ian cavalry1 :o h t way ( fight+2 b ! heavy-arm$ ,greek fights1 z ,i say1 rema9+ 9 8 rank4 ,,socrates3 ,& yet1 ,la*es1 y mu/ except ! ,lac$aemonians at ,plataea1 :o1 :5 !y came ^u ! light %ields ( ! ,p]sians1 are said n to h be5 will+ to /& & fight1 & to h fl$2 b :5 ! ranks ( ! ,p]sians 7 brok51 !y turn$ ^u !m l cavalry1 & won ! battle ( ,plataea4 ,,la*es3 ,t is true4 ,,socrates3 ,t 0 my mean+ :5 ,i said t ,i 0 to blame 9 hav+ put my "q badly1 & t ?is 0 ! reason ( y\r answ]+ badly4 ,= ,i meant to ask y n only ab\t ! c\rage ( heavy-arm$ soldi]s1 b ab\t ! c\rage ( cavalry & e o!r /yle ( soldi]2 & n only :o are c\rage\s 9 w>1 b :o are c\rage\s 9 p]ils by sea1 & :o 9 disease1 or 9 pov]ty1 or aga9 9 politics1 are c\rage\s2 & n only :o are c\rage\s aga9/ pa9 or fe>1 b mighty to cont5d aga9/ desires & pleasures1 ei!r fix$ 9 _! rank or turn+ ^u _! enemy4 ,!re is ?is sort ( c\rage--is !re n1 ,la*es8 ,,la*es3 ,c]ta9ly1 ,socrates4 ,,socrates3 ,& all ^! are c\rage\s1 b "s h c\rage 9 pleasures1 & "s 9 pa9s3 "s 9 desires1 & "s 9 fe>s1 & "s are c[>ds "u ! same conditions1 z ,i %\ld imag9e4 ,,la*es3 ,v true4 ,,socrates3 ,n[ ,i 0 ask+ ab\t c\rage & c[>dice 9 g5]al4 ,& ,i w beg9 ) c\rage1 & once m ask1 ,:at is t common quality1 :i* is ! same 9 all ^! cases1 & :i* is call$ c\rage8 ,d y n[ und]/& :at ,i mean8 ,,la*es3 ,n ov] well4 ,,socrates3 ,i mean ?is3 ,z ,i might ask :at is t quality :i* is call$ quickness1 & :i* is f\nd 9 runn+1 9 play+ ! lyre1 9 speak+1 9 le>n+1 & 9 _m o!r simil> actions1 or r :i* we possess 9 ne>ly e action t is wor? m5tion+ ( arms1 legs1 m\?1 voice1 m9d2--w\ld y n apply ! t]m quickness to all ( !m8 ,,la*es3 ,q true4 ,,socrates3 ,& suppose ,i 7 to be ask$ by "s "o3 ,:at is t common quality1 ,socrates1 :i*1 9 all ^! uses ( ! ^w1 y call quickness8 ,i %\ld say ! quality :i* accompli%es mu* 9 a little "t--:e!r 9 runn+1 speak+1 or 9 any o!r sort ( action4 ,,la*es3 ,y w\ld be q correct4 ,,socrates3 ,& n[1 ,la*es1 d y try & tell me 9 l mann]1 ,:at is t common quality :i* is call$ c\rage1 & :i* includes all ! v>i\s uses ( ! t]m :5 appli$ bo? to pleasure & pa91 & 9 all ! cases to :i* ,i 0 j n[ ref]r+8 ,,la*es3 ,i %\ld say t c\rage is a sort ( endurance ( ! s\l1 if ,i am to speak ( ! univ]sal nature :i* p]vades !m all4 ,,socrates3 ,b t is :at we mu/ d if we are to answ] ! "q4 ,& yet ,i _c say t e k9d ( endurance is1 9 my op9ion1 to be deem$ c\rage4 ,he> my reason3 ,i am sure1 ,la*es1 t y w\ld consid] c\rage to be a v noble quality4 ,,la*es3 ,mo/ noble1 c]ta9ly4 ,,socrates3 ,& y w\ld say t a wise endurance is also good & noble8 ,,la*es3 ,v noble4 ,,socrates3 ,b :at w\ld y say ( a fooli% endurance8 ,is n t1 on ! o!r h&1 to be reg>d$ z evil & hurtful8 ,,la*es3 ,true4 ,,socrates3 ,& is any?+ noble :i* is evil & hurtful8 ,,la*es3 ,i ought n to say t1 ,socrates4 ,,socrates3 ,!n y w\ld n admit t sort ( endurance to be c\rage--= x is n noble1 b c\rage is noble8 ,,la*es3 ,y are "r4 ,,socrates3 ,!n1 accord+ to y1 only ! wise endurance is c\rage8 ,,la*es3 ,true4 ,,socrates3 ,b z to ! epi!t 'wise1'--wise 9 :at8 ,9 all ?+s small z well z great8 ,= example1 if a man %[s ! quality ( endurance 9 sp5d+ 8 money wisely1 kn[+ t by sp5d+ he w acquire m 9 ! end1 d y call him c\rage\s8 ,,la*es3 ,assur$ly n4 ,,socrates3 ,or1 = example1 if a man is a physician1 & 8 son1 or "s pati5t ( 81 has inflammation ( ! lungs1 & begs t he may be all[$ to eat or dr9k some?+1 & ! o!r is firm & refuses2 is t c\rage8 ,,la*es3 ,no2 t is n c\rage at all1 any m ?an ! la/4 ,,socrates3 ,aga91 take ! case ( "o :o endures 9 w>1 & is will+ to fight1 & wisely calculates & kn[s t o!rs w help him1 & t !re w be few] & inf]ior m5 aga9/ him ?an !re are ) him2 & suppose t he has also advantages ( position2 w\ld y say ( su* a "o :o endures ) all ?is wisdom & prep>ation1 t he1 or "s man 9 ! oppos+ army :o is 9 ! opposite circum/ances to ^! & yet endures & rema9s at 8 po/1 is ! brav]8 ,,la*es3 ,i %\ld say t ! latt]1 ,socrates1 0 ! brav]4 ,,socrates3 ,b1 surely1 ?is is a fooli% endurance 9 comp>ison ) ! o!r8 ,,la*es3 ,t is true4 ,,socrates3 ,!n y w\ld say t he :o 9 an engagem5t ( cavalry endures1 hav+ ! k ( horseman%ip1 is n s c\rage\s z he :o endures1 hav+ no su* k8 ,,la*es3 ,s ,i %\ld say4 ,,socrates3 ,& he :o endures1 hav+ a k ( ! use ( ! sl+1 or ! b[1 or ( any o!r art1 is n s c\rage\s z he :o endures1 n hav+ su* a k8 ,,la*es3 ,true4 ,,socrates3 ,& he :o desc5ds into a well1 & dives1 & holds out 9 ?is or any simil> action1 hav+ no k ( div+1 or ! l1 is1 z y w\ld say1 m c\rage\s ?an ^? :o h ?is k8 ,,la*es3 ,:y1 ,socrates1 :at else c a man say8 ,,socrates3 ,no?+1 if t be :at he ?9ks4 ,,la*es3 ,b t is :at ,i d ?9k4 ,,socrates3 ,& yet m5 :o ?us run risks & endure are fooli%1 ,la*es1 9 comp>ison ( ^? :o d ! same ?+s1 hav+ ! skill to d !m4 ,,la*es3 ,t is true4 ,,socrates3 ,b fooli% boldness & endurance appe>$ be=e to be base & hurtful to u4 ,,la*es3 ,q true4 ,,socrates3 ,:]eas c\rage 0 ackn[l$g$ to be a noble quality4 ,,la*es3 ,true4 ,,socrates3 ,& n[ on ! contr>y we are say+ t ! fooli% endurance1 :i* 0 be=e held 9 di%on\r1 is c\rage4 ,,la*es3 ,v true4 ,,socrates3 ,& are we "r 9 say+ s8 ,,la*es3 ,inde$1 ,socrates1 ,i am sure t we are n "r4 ,,socrates3 ,!n accord+ to y\r /atem5t1 y & ,i1 ,la*es1 are n attun$ to ! ,dorian mode1 :i* is a h>mony ( words & de$s2 = our de$s are n 9 accordance ) our words4 ,any "o w\ld say t we _h c\rage :o saw u 9 action1 b n1 ,i imag9e1 he :o he>d u talk+ ab\t c\rage j n[4 ,,la*es3 ,t is mo/ true4 ,,socrates3 ,& is ?is condition ( ours satisfactory8 ,,la*es3 ,q ! rev]se4 ,,socrates3 ,suppose1 h[ev]1 t we admit ! pr9ciple ( :i* we are speak+ to a c]ta9 ext5t4 ,,la*es3 ,to :at ext5t & :at pr9ciple d y mean8 ,,socrates3 ,! pr9ciple ( endurance4 ,we too mu/ endure & p]sev]e 9 ! enquiry1 & !n c\rage w n laugh at our fa9t-he>t$ness 9 se>*+ = c\rage2 :i* aft] all may1 v likely1 be endurance4 ,,la*es3 ,i am ready to g on1 ,socrates2 & yet ,i am unus$ to inve/igations ( ?is sort4 ,b ! _s ( controv]sy has be5 ar\s$ 9 me by :at has be5 said2 & ,i am really griev$ at be+ ?us unable to express my mean+4 ,= ,i fancy t ,i d "k ! nature ( c\rage2 b1 someh[ or o!r1 %e has slipp$ away f me1 & ,i _c get hold ( h] & tell h] nature4 ,,socrates3 ,b1 my de> fri5d1 %\ld n ! good sportsman foll[ ! track1 & n be lazy8 ,,la*es3 ,c]ta9ly1 he %\ld4 ,,socrates3 ,& %all we invite ,nicias to jo9 u8 he may be bett] at ! sport ?an we are4 ,:at d y say8 ,,la*es3 ,i %\ld l t4 ,,socrates3 ,come !n1 ,nicias1 & d :at y c to help y\r fri5ds1 :o are toss+ on ! waves ( argum5t1 & at ! la/ gasp3 y see our extremity1 & may save u & also settle y\r own op9ion1 if y w tell u :at y ?9k ab\t c\rage4 ,,nicias3 ,i h be5 ?9k+1 ,socrates1 t y & ,la*es are n def9+ c\rage 9 ! "r way2 = y h =gott5 an excell5t say+ :i* ,i h he>d f y\r own lips4 ,,socrates3 ,:at is x1 ,nicias8 ,,nicias3 ,i h (t5 he>d y say t ',e man is good 9 t 9 :i* he is wise1 & bad 9 t 9 :i* he is unwise4' ,,socrates3 ,t is c]ta9ly true1 ,nicias4 ,,nicias3 ,& !re=e if ! brave man is good1 he is also wise4 ,,socrates3 ,d y he> him1 ,la*es8 ,,la*es3 ,yes1 ,i he> him1 b ,i d n v well und]/& him4 ,,socrates3 ,i ?9k t ,i und]/& him2 & he appe>s to me to mean t c\rage is a sort ( wisdom4 ,,la*es3 ,:at c he possibly mean1 ,socrates8 ,,socrates3 ,t is a "q :i* y mu/ ask ( himself4 ,,la*es3 ,yes4 ,,socrates3 ,tell him !n1 ,nicias1 :at y mean by ?is wisdom2 = y surely d n mean ! wisdom :i* plays ! flute8 ,,nicias3 ,c]ta9ly n4 ,,socrates3 ,nor ! wisdom :i* plays ! lyre8 ,,nicias3 ,no4 ,,socrates3 ,b :at is ?is k !n1 & ( :at8 ,,la*es3 ,i ?9k t y put ! "q to him v well1 ,socrates2 & ,i w\ld l him to say :at is ! nature ( ?is k or wisdom4 ,,nicias3 ,i mean to say1 ,la*es1 t c\rage is ! k ( t :i* inspires fe> or confid5ce 9 w>1 or 9 any?+4 ,,la*es3 ,h[ /rangely he is talk+1 ,socrates4 ,,socrates3 ,:y d y say s1 ,la*es8 ,,la*es3 ,:y1 surely c\rage is "o ?+1 & wisdom ano!r4 ,,socrates3 ,t is j :at ,nicias d5ies4 ,,la*es3 ,yes1 t is :at he d5ies2 b he is s silly4 ,,socrates3 ,suppose t we in/ruct in/ead ( abus+ him8 ,,nicias3 ,la*es does n want to in/ruct me1 ,socrates2 b hav+ be5 prov$ to be talk+ nons5se himself1 he wants to prove t ,i h be5 do+ ! same4 ,,la*es3 ,v true1 ,nicias2 & y are talk+ nons5se1 z ,i %all endeav\r to %[4 ,let me ask y a "q3 ,d n physicians "k ! dang]s ( disease8 or d ! c\rage\s "k !m8 or are ! physicians ! same z ! c\rage\s8 ,,nicias3 ,n at all4 ,,la*es3 ,no m ?an ! husb&m5 :o "k ! dang]s ( husb&ry1 or ?an o!r craftsm51 :o h a k ( t :i* inspires !m ) fe> or confid5ce 9 _! own arts1 & yet !y are n c\rage\s a :it ! m = t4 ,,socrates3 ,:at is ,la*es say+1 ,nicias8 ,he appe>s to be say+ some?+ ( importance4 ,,nicias3 ,yes1 he is say+ some?+1 b x is n true4 ,,socrates3 ,h[ s8 ,,nicias3 ,:y1 because he does n see t ! physician's k only ext5ds to ! nature ( heal? & disease3 he c tell ! sick man no m ?an ?is4 ,d y imag9e1 ,la*es1 t ! physician kn[s :e!r heal? or disease is ! m t]rible to a man8 ,_h n _m a man bett] nev] get up f a sick b$8 ,i %\ld l to "k :e!r y ?9k t life is always bett] ?an dea?4 ,may n dea? (t5 be ! bett] ( ! two8 ,,la*es3 ,yes c]ta9ly s 9 my op9ion4 ,,nicias3 ,& d y ?9k t ! same ?+s are t]rible to ^? :o _h bett] die1 & to ^? :o _h bett] live8 ,,la*es3 ,c]ta9ly n4 ,,nicias3 ,& d y suppose t ! physician or any o!r arti/ kn[s ?is1 or any "o inde$1 except he :o is skill$ 9 ! gr\nds ( fe> & hope8 ,& him ,i call ! c\rage\s4 ,,socrates3 ,d y und]/& 8 mean+1 ,la*es8 ,,la*es3 ,yes2 ,i suppose t1 9 8 way ( speak+1 ! soo?say]s are c\rage\s4 ,= :o b "o ( !m c "k to :om to die or to live is bett]8 ,& yet ,nicias1 w\ld y all[ t y are y\rself a soo?say]1 or are y nei!r a soo?say] nor c\rage\s8 ,,nicias3 ,:at6 d y mean to say t ! soo?say] ought to "k ! gr\nds ( hope or fe>8 ,,la*es3 ,inde$ ,i d3 :o b he8 ,,nicias3 ,mu* r ,i %\ld say he ( :om ,i speak2 = ! soo?say] ought to "k only ! signs ( ?+s t are ab\t to come to pass1 :e!r dea? or disease1 or loss ( prop]ty1 or victory1 or defeat 9 w>1 or 9 any sort ( conte/2 b to :om ! suff]+ or n suff]+ ( ^! ?+s w be = ! be/1 c no m be decid$ by ! soo?say] ?an by "o :o is no soo?say]4 ,,la*es3 ,i _c und]/& :at ,nicias w\ld be at1 ,socrates2 = he repres5ts ! c\rage\s man z nei!r a soo?say]1 nor a physician1 nor 9 any o!r "*1 unless he means to say t he is a god4 ,my op9ion is t he does n l hone/ly to confess t he is talk+ nons5se1 b t he %uffles up & d[n 9 ord] to conceal ! difficulty into :i* he has got himself4 ,y & ,i1 ,socrates1 might h practis$ a simil> %uffle j n[1 if we _h only want$ to avoid ! appe>ance ( inconsi/5cy4 ,& if we _h be5 argu+ 9 a c\rt ( law !re might h be5 reason 9 s do+2 b :y %\ld a man deck himself out ) va9 words at a meet+ ( fri5ds su* z ?is8 ,,socrates3 ,i q agree ) y1 ,la*es1 t he %\ld n4 ,b p]haps ,nicias is s]i\s1 & n m]ely talk+ = ! sake ( talk+4 ,let u ask him j to expla9 :at he means1 & if he has reason on 8 side we w agree ) him2 if n1 we w in/ruct him4 ,,la*es3 ,d y1 ,socrates1 if y l1 ask him3 ,i ?9k t ,i h ask$ en\gh4 ,,socrates3 ,i d n see :y ,i %\ld n2 & my "q w d = bo? ( u4 ,,la*es3 ,v good4 ,,socrates3 ,!n tell me1 ,nicias1 or r tell u1 = ,la*es & ,i are p>tn]s 9 ! argum5t3 ,d y mean to affirm t c\rage is ! k ( ! gr\nds ( hope & fe>8 ,,nicias3 ,i d4 ,,socrates3 ,& n e man has ?is k2 ! physician & ! soo?say] h x n2 & !y w n be c\rage\s unless !y acquire x--t is :at y 7 say+8 ,,nicias3 ,i 04 ,,socrates3 ,!n ?is is c]ta9ly n a ?+ :i* e pig w\ld "k1 z ! prov]b says1 & !re=e he c\ld n be c\rage\s4 ,,nicias3 ,i ?9k n4 ,,socrates3 ,cle>ly n1 ,nicias2 n ev5 su* a big pig z ! ,crommyonian s[ w\ld be call$ by y c\rage\s4 ,& ?is ,i say n z a joke1 b because ,i ?9k t he :o ass5ts to y\r doctr9e1 t c\rage is ! k ( ! gr\nds ( fe> & hope1 _c all[ t any wild bea/ is c\rage\s1 unless he admits t a lion1 or a leop>d1 or p]haps a bo>1 or any o!r animal1 has su* a degree ( wisdom t he kn[s ?+s :i* b a few human be+s ev] "k by reason ( _! difficulty4 ,he :o takes y\r view ( c\rage mu/ affirm t a lion1 & a /ag1 & a bull1 & a monkey1 h equally little pret5sions to c\rage4 ,,la*es3 ,capital1 ,socrates2 by ! gods1 t is truly good4 ,& ,i hope1 ,nicias1 t y w tell u :e!r ^! animals1 :i* we all admit to be c\rage\s1 are really wis] ?an mank9d2 or :e!r y w h ! boldness1 9 ! face ( univ]sal op9ion1 to d5y _! c\rage4 ,,nicias3 ,:y1 ,la*es1 ,i d n call animals or any o!r ?+s :i* h no fe> ( dang]s1 because !y are ignorant ( !m1 c\rage\s1 b only fe>less & s5seless4 ,d y imag9e t ,i %\ld call little *ildr5 c\rage\s1 :i* fe> no dang]s because !y "k none8 ,!re is a diff]5ce1 to my way ( ?9k+1 betwe5 fe>lessness & c\rage4 ,i am ( op9ion t ?\ghtful c\rage is a quality possess$ by v few1 b t ra%ness & boldness1 & fe>lessness1 :i* has no =e?\ght1 are v common qualities possess$ by _m m51 _m wom51 _m *ildr51 _m animals4 ,& y1 & m5 9 g5]al1 call by ! t]m 'c\rage\s' actions :i* ,i call ra%2--my c\rage\s actions are wise actions4 ,,la*es3 ,behold1 ,socrates1 h[ admirably1 z he ?9ks1 he dresses himself out 9 words1 :ile seek+ to deprive ( ! hon\r ( c\rage ^? :om all ! _w ackn[l$ges to be c\rage\s4 ,,nicias3 ,n s1 ,la*es1 b d n be al>m$2 = ,i am q will+ to say ( y & also ( ,lama*us1 & ( _m o!r ,a!nians1 t y are c\rage\s & !re=e wise4 ,,la*es3 ,i c\ld answ] t2 b ,i w\ld n h y ca/ 9 my tee? t ,i am a haughty ,aexonian4 ,,socrates3 ,d n answ] him1 ,la*es2 ,i r fancy t y are n aw>e ( ! s\rce f :i* 8 wisdom is d]iv$4 ,he has got all ?is f my fri5d ,damon1 & ,damon is always ) ,prodicus1 :o1 ( all ! ,sophi/s1 is consid]$ to be ! be/ pull] to pieces ( words ( ?is sort4 ,,la*es3 ,yes1 ,socrates2 & ! exam9ation ( su* niceties is a mu* m suitable employm5t = a ,sophi/ ?an = a great /atesman :om ! city *ooses to preside ov] h]4 ,,socrates3 ,yes1 my sweet fri5d1 b a great /atesman is likely to h a great intellig5ce4 ,& ,i ?9k t ! view :i* is impli$ 9 ,nicias' def9ition ( c\rage is wor?y ( exam9ation4 ,,la*es3 ,!n exam9e = y\rself1 ,socrates4 ,,socrates3 ,t is :at ,i am go+ to d1 my de> fri5d4 ,d n1 h[ev]1 suppose ,i %all let y out ( ! p>tn]%ip2 = ,i %all expect y to apply y\r m9d1 & jo9 ) me 9 ! consid]ation ( ! "q4 ,,la*es3 ,i w if y ?9k t ,i ought4 ,,socrates3 ,yes1 ,i d2 b ,i mu/ beg ( y1 ,nicias1 to beg9 aga94 ,y rememb] t we orig9ally consid]$ c\rage to be a "p ( virtue4 ,,nicias3 ,v true4 ,,socrates3 ,& y y\rself said t x 0 a "p2 & !re 7 _m o!r p>ts1 all ( :i* tak5 toge!r are call$ virtue4 ,,nicias3 ,c]ta9ly4 ,,socrates3 ,d y agree ) me ab\t ! p>ts8 ,= ,i say t ju/ice1 temp]ance1 & ! l1 are all ( !m p>ts ( virtue z well z c\rage4 ,w\ld y n say ! same8 ,,nicias3 ,c]ta9ly4 ,,socrates3 ,well !n1 s f> we are agre$4 ,& n[ let u proce$ a /ep1 & try to arrive at a simil> agreem5t ab\t ! fe>ful & ! hopeful3 ,i d n want y to be ?9k+ "o ?+ & myself ano!r4 ,let me !n tell y my own op9ion1 & if ,i am wrong y %all set me "r3 9 my op9ion ! t]rible & ! hopeful are ! ?+s :i* d or d n create fe>1 & fe> is n ( ! pres5t1 nor ( ! pa/1 b is ( future & expect$ evil4 ,d y n agree to t1 ,la*es8 ,,la*es3 ,yes1 ,socrates1 entirely4 ,,socrates3 ,t is my view1 ,nicias2 ! t]rible ?+s1 z ,i %\ld say1 are ! evils :i* are future2 & ! hopeful are ! good or n evil ?+s :i* are future4 ,d y or d y n agree ) me8 ,,nicias3 ,i agree4 ,,socrates3 ,& ! k ( ^! ?+s y call c\rage8 ,,nicias3 ,precisely4 ,,socrates3 ,& n[ let me see :e!r y agree ) ,la*es & myself z to a ?ird po9t4 ,,nicias3 ,:at is t8 ,,socrates3 ,i w tell y4 ,he & ,i h a notion t !re is n "o k or sci5ce ( ! pa/1 ano!r ( ! pres5t1 a ?ird ( :at is likely to be be/ & :at w be be/ 9 ! future2 b t ( all ?ree !re is "o sci5ce only3 = example1 !re is "o sci5ce ( m$ic9e :i* is conc]n$ ) ! inspection ( heal? equally 9 all times1 pres5t1 pa/1 & future2 & "o sci5ce ( husb&ry 9 l mann]1 :i* is conc]n$ ) ! productions ( ! e>? 9 all times4 ,z to ! art ( ! g5]al1 y y\rselves w be my witnesses t he has an excell5t =ekn[l$ge ( ! future1 & t he claims to be ! ma/] & n ! s]vant ( ! soo?say]1 because he kn[s bett] :at is happ5+ or is likely to happ5 9 w>3 & accord+ly ! law places ! soo?say] "u ! g5]al1 & n ! g5]al "u ! soo?say]4 ,am ,i n correct 9 say+ s1 ,la*es8 ,,la*es3 ,q correct4 ,,socrates3 ,& d y1 ,nicias1 also ackn[l$ge t ! same sci5ce has und]/&+ ( ! same ?+s1 :e!r future1 pres5t1 or pa/8 ,,nicias3 ,yes1 inde$ ,socrates2 t is my op9ion4 ,,socrates3 ,& c\rage1 my fri5d1 is1 z y say1 a k ( ! fe>ful & ( ! hopeful8 ,,nicias3 ,yes4 ,,socrates3 ,& ! fe>ful1 & ! hopeful1 are admitt$ to be future goods & future evils8 ,,nicias3 ,true4 ,,socrates3 ,& ! same sci5ce has to d ) ! same ?+s 9 ! future or at any "t8 ,,nicias3 ,t is true4 ,,socrates3 ,!n c\rage is n ! sci5ce :i* is conc]n$ ) ! fe>ful & hopeful1 = !y are future only2 c\rage1 l ! o!r sci5ces1 is conc]n$ n only ) good & evil ( ! future1 b ( ! pres5t & pa/1 & ( any "t8 ,,nicias3 ,t1 z ,i suppose1 is true4 ,,socrates3 ,!n ! answ] :i* y h giv51 ,nicias1 includes only a ?ird "p ( c\rage2 b our "q ext5d$ to ! :ole nature ( c\rage3 & accord+ to y\r view1 t is1 accord+ to y\r pres5t view1 c\rage is n only ! k ( ! hopeful & ! fe>ful1 b seems to include ne>ly e good & evil )\t ref]5ce to "t4 ,:at d y say to t alt]ation 9 y\r /atem5t8 ,,nicias3 ,i agree1 ,socrates4 ,,socrates3 ,b !n1 my de> fri5d1 if a man knew all good & evil1 & h[ !y are1 & h be51 & w be produc$1 w\ld he n be p]fect1 & want+ 9 no virtue1 :e!r ju/ice1 or temp]ance1 or hol9ess8 ,he w\ld possess !m all1 & he w\ld "k :i* 7 dang]s & :i* 7 n1 & gu>d aga9/ !m :e!r !y 7 sup]natural or natural2 & he w\ld provide ! good1 z he w\ld "k h[ to deal bo? ) gods or m54 ,,nicias3 ,i ?9k1 ,socrates1 t !re is a great deal ( tru? 9 :at y say4 ,,socrates3 ,b !n1 ,nicias1 c\rage1 accord+ to ?is new def9ition ( y\rs1 in/ead ( be+ a "p ( virtue only1 w be all virtue8 ,,nicias3 ,x w\ld seem s4 ,,socrates3 ,b we 7 say+ t c\rage is "o ( ! p>ts ( virtue8 ,,nicias3 ,yes1 t 0 :at we 7 say+4 ,,socrates3 ,& t is 9 contradiction ) our pres5t view8 ,,nicias3 ,t appe>s to be ! case4 ,,socrates3 ,!n1 ,nicias1 we h n discov]$ :at c\rage is4 ,,nicias3 ,we h n4 ,,la*es3 ,& yet1 fri5d ,nicias1 ,i imag9$ t y w\ld h made ! discov]y1 :5 y 7 s contemptu\s ( ! answ]s :i* ,i made to ,socrates4 ,i _h v great hopes t y w\ld h be5 enlight5$ by ! wisdom ( ,damon4 ,,nicias3 ,i p]ceive1 ,la*es1 t y ?9k no?+ ( hav+ display$ y\r ignorance ( ! nature ( c\rage1 b y look only to see :e!r ,i h n made a simil> display2 & if we are bo? equally ignorant ( ! ?+s :i* a man :o is good = any?+ %\ld "k1 t1 ,i suppose1 w be ( no consequ5ce4 ,y c]ta9ly appe> to me v l ! re/ ( ! _w1 look+ at y\r neighb\r & n at y\rself4 ,i am ( op9ion t en\gh has be5 said on ! subject :i* we h be5 discuss+2 & if any?+ has be5 imp]fectly said1 t may be h]eaft] correct$ by ! help ( ,damon1 :om y ?9k to laugh d[n1 al?\gh y h nev] se5 him1 & ) ! help ( o!rs4 ,& :5 ,i am satisfi$ myself1 ,i w freely imp>t my satisfaction to y1 = ,i ?9k t y are v mu* 9 want ( k4 ,,la*es3 ,y are a philosoph]1 ,nicias2 ( t ,i am aw>e3 nev]!less ,i w\ld recomm5d ,lysima*us & ,melesias n to take y & me z advis]s ab\t ! education ( _! *ildr52 b1 z ,i said at fir/1 !y %\ld ask ,socrates & n let him (f2 if my own sons 7 old en\gh1 ,i w\ld h ask$ him myself4 ,,nicias3 ,to t ,i q agree1 if ,socrates is will+ to take !m "u 8 *>ge4 ,i %\ld n wi% = any "o else to be ! tutor ( ,nic]atus4 ,b ,i obs]ve t :5 ,i m5tion ! matt] to him he recomm5ds to me "s o!r tutor & refuses himself4 ,p]haps he may be m ready to li/5 to y1 ,lysima*us4 ,,lysima*us3 ,he ought1 ,nicias3 = c]ta9ly ,i w\ld d ?+s = him :i* ,i w\ld n d = _m o!rs4 ,:at d y say1 ,socrates--w y comply8 ,& are y ready to give assi/ance 9 ! improvem5t ( ! y\?s8 ,,socrates3 ,inde$1 ,lysima*us1 ,i %\ld be v wrong 9 refus+ to aid 9 ! improvem5t ( anybody4 ,& if ,i _h %[n 9 ?is conv]sation t ,i _h a k :i* ,nicias & ,la*es h n1 !n ,i admit t y w\ld be "r 9 invit+ me to p]=m ?is duty2 b z we are all 9 ! same p]plexity1 :y %\ld "o ( u be pref]r$ to ano!r8 ,i c]ta9ly ?9k t no "o %\ld2 & "u ^! circum/ances1 let me (f] y a piece ( advice 7& ?is ne$ n g fur!r ?an ourselves74 ,i ma9ta91 my fri5ds1 t e "o ( u %\ld seek out ! be/ tea*] :om he c f9d1 fir/ = ourselves1 :o are greatly 9 ne$ ( "o1 & !n = ! y\?1 reg>dless ( exp5se or any?+4 ,b ,i _c advise t we rema9 z we are4 ,& if any "o laughs at u = go+ to s*ool at our age1 ,i w\ld quote to !m ! au?ority ( ,hom]1 :o says1 t ',mode/y is n good = a ne$y man4' ,let u !n1 reg>dless ( :at may be said ( u1 make ! education ( ! y\?s our own education4 ,,lysima*us3 ,i l y\r proposal1 ,socrates2 & z ,i am ! olde/1 ,i am also ! mo/ eag] to g to s*ool ) ! boys4 ,let me beg a fav\r ( y3 ,come to my h\se to-morr[ at dawn1 & we w advise ab\t ^! matt]s4 ,= ! pres5t1 let u make an end ( ! conv]sation4 ,,socrates3 ,i w come to y to-morr[1 ,lysima*us1 z y propose1 ,god will+4